professor. i appreciate it. law students at stanford are lucky. don't forget, join us next time on life liberty and limited. ♪ tomi: hello i'm tomi lahren and welcome to never play dead. you may recognize me for my final thoughts and you know how i feel about illegal immigration, guns and freedom but you know who i voted for and why. you know a lot about me but in my book, never played it, of the truth makes you unstoppable, out july 2 you'll learn even more. i've been fired, sued, dropped, disinvited, heckled, left at, slandered and betrayed and dumped. i've had water thrown at me and restaurant and frequently shout did that with expletives and yet here i am stronger than ever. i twitter notifications don't define me. but why, at 26 years old, have the confidence to speak my mind despite the heat, backlash, threats and noise?

tonight, not only will i answer that question but teach you how to stand your ground and discover how resilient you are and find your fearless site. i sat down with those who inspire me, a mom who rains me to be a strong woman i am today and a bad ass women who i'm looking up to call my friends who share their messages and device. conventional wisdom is that we need more stability and fewer arguments but if you have a bunch of personal opinion keep it to yourself but as you probably know i cannot disagree more. it's a trick. the same people whining about tone will call you names and applaud those who threaten you. been there, done that. as conservatives we've often been conditioned to stop talking about religion and politics for fear of offending others but that has led to an inability to typical conversations about important topics. i encourage all americans, especially women, to find our voices and speak out. if you support president trump, where that maga hat with pride and never let anyone tell you

otherwise. i don't let the mob into the meet me and i never will. my life is not normal but in a lot of ways it's just like yours. i grew up in a blue-collar family in the midwest so hard work, laser focused and unrelenting determination i managed to get where i am today. whether you been told you're not good enough by family members, enemies, bad bosses or social media is about time you worry less about who you might offend and focus on who you might inspire. in the long run you will never regret being forceful when the truth is on your side. remember, never play dead. growing up in south dakota is the daughter of two hard-working parents taught me about life my mom always inspired me to be fearless, confident woman no matter what life throws my way. i sat down with her to talk about her inner strength and what it was like raising an opinionated daughter like me. you're a big and special for the book i'm talking about strong, empowered women and i've got to

start with my mom. for those people out there who have not seen this is not the first time in front of the camera. you been on camera with me other times but probably most notably and most virally is when we were in minnesota, decided to throw water at me. >> and when someone does that to your daughter it's not something you just stand back and walk away. that's not how i am geared. tomi: also what i'm used to do and my friend are used to but that's the first time you and dad had seen it so for me i know how to react to those situations because i'm used to it but i know for you and dad in that situation it was something where it's your daughter. she's not tomi lahren on fox news what tomi lahren from final thoughts but your daughter. >> well, you handle it so well and you are used to it control your temper whereas a mother -- i probably do not control my temper but it's hard to do that. anyone who is a mother would know that. but how many people have good

things to say and the inspiration you give to young girls and other people and i'm proud of that. tomi: obviously, you and dad went away with me a lot of this book is about the ending of the other networks and believing in a way that is unconventional for a lot of people, especially my age, being fired and going through a lawsuit. i confided in you and dad because there weren't a lot of people in my life that i could talk to about that time. >> you are so strong. i'm so impressed by that. i think it's the most awesome thing and there are times when you can get down in that predicament and you shot back up but you pull yourself up by your bootstraps and do it. tomi: that's what i come from but i come from people that take something to take a very little resources and make it happen. it's always make it happen. let's talk about you growing up. you always thought that from grandpa who i have a lot in common with. >> he was very driven, type a

personality, like you. did not graduate from high school but made over the course of years dad made millions and probably lost millions but he always came back if he were here he was smiling from ear to ear he be so proud of you. tomi: that's something i want to talk about but i talk about this on a few occasions and it's something i'm not ashamed of for something to be talked about. we need to talk about it more. my grandpa, your dad, did not die the way most people grandfathers did when i was a sophomore in college at unlv i got a call from you that my grandpa shot himself. that is not something i expected to hear that i know it's emotional for you. >> some people get upset with people when you have someone in the family doing that and saying it's a selfish thing to do and i could never look at it that way. i was just sad that he can come to that point in your life where

you feel so awful and so like there's nothing to look forward to and at the end of the road that you can take your own life. it does need to be addressed. tomi: we have to talk about these things and mental health. we have to talk about confidence, self-esteem and depression. we have to talk about alcoholism and suicide. if we don't talk about it that we make it this taboo thing that people are afraid to talk about it. that is deadly. i have girls that come to me that they tomi i want to end it all. tomi, i don't know what to do and i have no confidence and i'm not the weight and to be another job i want to be in a don't have a lots of friends and look to be come to me and say how are you confident? people say the nastiest things about you and people make fun of the way you look and the size of your forehead in the way you talk and they make fun of everything from your name to all inclusive tomi they make fun of and they asked me how do you

stand tall? how do you have the competence? i tell them it's because i'm a for me, confidence is something that comes to being able to speak your mind to know who you are and not have to prove it to anybody. i don't know if we get to a place where women with lift each other up regardless of their political affiliation speak. >> i thank you cleared that up on a number of occasions where you might go after some of the women for doing this or that but when push comes to shove you don't take that person. you're not a racist and you don't -- that's not your deal at all. i know we've had things before where people try to get me to say that you're a racist and how you feel about that and i said tomi is the furthest thing from a racist is not the color of your skin but it is how you conduct yourself. tomi: 's ideas, too. it's not people but ideas. multi- year ordeal having to

fight for myself and not just in a lawsuit but people don't know i was one of the only trump supporters in the building and i was fighting every day. >> you are very independent and strong from the get go, two days after you were born i was out of the hospital and dad was talking to you, holding you and you talked back. he said watch this and he went did whatever and made some noise to you and you made a noise back. [laughter] tomi: if only you knew what to come from it. [laughter] >> first one in the family to talk. [laughter] tomi: your big part of my debt book and its this book is more about my career and everything i came from but you and dad are the biggest part of that and

biggest proponent of that. thank you for blessing me with being able to be where i am today. you don't understand how much you've done for me but i hope after you read the book you'll have some small idea of how much you need to be. now were done and you don't have to worry about the thanks for coming. no problem. -you're welcome. this is the durabed of the all new chevy silverado. it looks real sturdy. -the bed is huge. it has available led cargo area lighting. lights up the entire bed. it even offers a built in 120 volt outlet. wow. plug that in for me. whoa! -holy smokes! -oh wow! and the all new silverado has more trim levels than any other pickup. whoa! oh wow! -very cool. there's something for all of us. absolutely. it's time to upgrade. (laughte it's kind of unfair that safe drivers have to pay as much for insurance... as not safe drivers! ah! that was a stunt driver. that's why esurance has this drivesense® app. the safer you drive,

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june 2. tomi: feminism is to be about equal rights and female power moment but until the liberal hijacker. modern-day feminists have turned female empowerment into nothing more than mandating, truncating and restock the meeting. the day after president trump inaugurated into office women and men around the country assembled and called it the women's march but i refuse to call it by that name because truth is by calling it that older display of hate and bitterness a women's march you are demeaning integrating what it means to be female. nothing says take me seriously like marching around in pink hat screaming profanities and demanding free things. does that look like female empowerment to you? not to me and not to any reasonable, decent woman or man. >> there is nothing more powerful than a group of determined sisters -- we are everything one of us under attack.

>> i am a nasty woman. >> yes, i am outraged. yes, i have thoughts about going up the white house. tomi: is that the example we want to set for our daughters? as conservative women we don't stand up and speak out that's all the young women in this country will have a reference. those modern members believe in female empowerment they would acknowledge the president trump had the first successful female campaign manager in history. president trump selected the first mother to serve as press secretary, many women in high-ranking cabinet positions and advisory roles. if they truly believed in making things better for women they would celebrate the lowest of female and implement rate and highest workforce participation rate in decades. they would also celebrate the academic growth, tax cuts, job creation of a soft market gains they are expanding under president donald trump.

those ladies don't seem to care about any of that but all they do is malign the president, his demonstration and the successful women who had the courage to call out their narrow finish of feminism. those women can march all they want but they should not be so quick to dismiss thousands of american women march to the voting booth to elect a trump we are women, we are americans and we are not going anywhere. there are a lot of women out there who never played at and i wanted to find out more about what makes them tick. i invited a few of them to come in. twenty me now are keira davis, doctor kelly ward, amy robbins, doctor nicole safire and leslie marshall. welcome, ladies. i apologize, leslie, my loan democrat at the table for the introduction. the reason i wanted the women i

have here is because we offer something different in our perspectives and some are conservative but some liberal and in the middle for a lot of us and that is something i write about a lot in this book. it's having the confidence to speak your mind even if it doesn't fit into a narrow box of what anyone wants to fit into. i don't fit into a box and it disappoints people but i'm proud of it. the criticism has been that trump is antiwoman and a sexist and misogynist and he's losing support of suburban women which he counted on so were invested in it on the state level and your state, arizona, will be important in the next election. what will it be as far as suburban women? >> is the chairman of the republican party of arizona michael job is to reelect president donald trump, to make sure martha mcnally in arizona it back into the united state senate electrical begins all the way down the valley.

of course, suburban women are very important and so we are listening to them. something that many times and politics does not happen. there are some women that are involved in the trump apparatus we look at his high-level staff, kellyanne conway being the first successful campaign manager in history we are listening to them and want to know what the issues are that are important to them. the president trump does not want to tell them what's important to them wants to listen to we can bring them over to our side. it will be a big challenge for the democrats to come up with somebody who is able to fight against the success we had over the last several years. tomi: i also wonder because the democrats are good at think we need a president that stands up for women issues but i know for you and i illegal immigration is an issue that not a woman's issue but impacts women and families, nicole what you think as far as the women's issues that will be up in 2020 that will be most important to female voters? >> again, while we limit issues 20 woman's issue is but talk about issues with american

issues like what does america need and what will make our country continue to flourish and improve? i get upset when everyone bottles us into let's talk about women issues. no, immigration could be considered a woman's issue. healthcare could be a woman's issue. men receive healthcare and men are affected by immigration issues and the quality, gender equality these are america's issues, not necessarily women's issues so we need to get away from the stereotype because we doing this to ourselves splitting our nation. treat us equally and continue on and will be americans. tomi: one big issue in 2020 from the democratic side is taking gun confiscation, gun bans, assault on the second amendment. that something that is huge for you, amy, because the company revolves around the second amendment so i feel it is a woman's issue and i know you see it as a woman's issue but the second amendment will be under attack. >> i see it as you are saying when i look at the second moment

i don't see it as a woman or mail issue but or rebellion or democratic. the second amendment is for all of us. it was put into place to give all of us the opportunity to defend and protect that which is most valuable which is our life. for this next election -- i'm on the ground level every saturday working with the market analysis and seeing how many women are going to apply for the permit and i'm thankful this will be a central issue because the president trump is a big supporter of the second amendment will continue to fight for that although is under attack. >> i want to jump in because the cats don't want to take away the second amendment. a number of democrats in the california own guns but what we want left, right, center what we want to do is they want universal background checks but they don't want guns into the wrong hands. for example, someone with a

severe mental illness. in addition, they want certain type of weaponry that we seen the mass shootings in this country they want those banned or restricted so that not taking the second amendment away for just -- we've had weapons band in the past and it's been successful and no one to equate the second amendment and no on one -- if you have ten types of guns and then have nine so you have one less type of gun you don't need the type of guns that does that damage to defend yourself or kill the family. >> but those strict gun laws and not been effective it look at chicago. earlier in june there were over 50 shootings in one weekend in the most restrictive gun zone in the united states. over 50 people shot, ten people killed. all these restrictive gun laws do is seek to limit law-abiding gun owners and that has got to stop it we need to target the

revelation that need to be targeted in those with mental illness and criminal backgrounds and stop trying to take away the rights of law-abiding americans. >> we would disagree that that is the goal and quite frankly, with what you decided we would have some agreement and overlap but i don't see legislation coming from the right but does that. >> the second amendment does that. >> it does not address rental illness or universal background checks. >> we have so many barriers already and i think why this i is -- >> you are kidding me, right to? >> i was i was. >> i could walk into a gun shop with a fake id and buy a gun tomorrow. [inaudible conversations] >> people talk about the gun show loophole but if i go to a gun show in getting it from a registered ff out i do have to turn in into a back and check and run it to the system and take the fire home with you

depending on the state you live in but when you talk about restrictive gun rights she's very true. depending on the state you live in california go on right now and say let's find out you have a stalker or a woman has been in a domestic violence and goes and wants to purchase a firearm. in california she has a ten day waiting time. those are restricting hurting women and other people that are needing to defend and protect themselves. >> i think this conversation -- just to close the circle on this contentious is because the point is as women what we are asking for is the freedom to exercise our rights which we see are appropriate for our families. >> when it comes to gun rights that the personal decision we make and i think when the left and right breaks this down sometimes appears like law-abiding gun owners like myself are being accused of perverse motives every time some

weirdo goes off with a gun and i'm being punished for the actions of someone who has already perpetrated a lawless act. >> what about my child who goes into your home -- and you have a gun and i don't have a gun because i know the status of children and guns at home and not comfortable with my child at your house have a gun. what about my rights? >> don't send your kid to my house that. [inaudible conversations] >> you have every right to not send my child to your home. >> but how do i know if you have a gun? >> you have every right to ask. tomi: we'll take a quick break but it is long enough for you to sign up for vaccination, if of course you're not already a course you're not already a termites.

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south bend. county police later had to help control an angry crowd of more than 100 gathered outside the hospital. it's not immediate clear what did the shooting but later sunday mayor pete based criticize racism about last week shooting of a black man by a white police officer. world leaders to meet in japan this week for the g20 summit. president trump will be among them in one conversation on everyone's radar, the one he has between with him and chinese president. they're hoping the meeting will help and trade tensions between washington and beijing. now back to never play dead. ♪. tomi: will come back to might never play dead book special. before the break we talk about freedom and choice so the next segment will be interesting for us all but i have a controversial opinion on this or some would say because i lost my

job over it. for those of you who don't know i was on a little show called the view in a similar arrangement like this when i said i was pro-choice because i believe in limited government. the frustration i have is when people hear me say i'm pro-choice they stop there. they did not say your pro-choice because you believe in a minute government but said baby killer. that's the most positive thing for me is because i think besides do it to each other. we hear pro-choice and think baby killer. we are pro-life and we think jesus freak. there is a middle ground but i want to start with you, nicole, you need a post on instagram that touched me after i was going to heat with this and i want your perspective to be out there. >> i go on tv and i'm not afraid to discuss some of my personal stories and yes, i'm a medical doctor but my story is that i had a son when i was in high school. some people think because i'm on fox and had a child when i was 18 years old they will put me into that pro-life box. i just never came out and said what i am.

you will not get me to say that because i refuse to be fit into this rhetoric driven lyrically heated debate because bottom line is it does not matter. what matters is we are of our diverse nation and what the outcome is for one person may not be for someone else but when i want to say to everyone is it's about personal responsibility. i am so strong and individual choice, limited government and personal response ability. if you're not ready to have child and maybe you should be taking measures not to get pregnant. that is your responsibility, your choice. if you make these decisions you need to make decisions to prepare you for a good life. if you define yourself pregnant when you are 18 or 17 or when you're not in a favorable situation you have to look inside to decide what will be right for you and what is right for your child and you can't feel that you are boxed in. you are the only person will make that decision for you.

>> i want to time and because i offer a different perspective. coming from what you do political commentating on a regular basis and i'm a business owner. when i look at was going on in our society with these public forms for their business we have to step back and say what is the public platform will take a stand on. were not a political company. the second amendment is for everyone but on a personal level what i can tell everybody is that as a second amendment supporter we wholeheartedly believe that life is valuable. life is sacred. is worthy to be defended and worthy to be protected. so, for us when people ask what is your stance on this we don't make a public stance but i will tell people i think it's wort worth -- >> when you brought up guns that's important. when i was on the view but i liken this to was guns and the second limit and when i said was for me to say i am pro-choice

does not mean i'm pro- abortion but it doesn't mean i'm personally pro-life but i don't think the government does anything well. we say the government doesn't do things well with restricting firearms for law-abiding americans i think the same thing goes for abortion. i don't think a woman in a most difficult position in her life with the government telling her you can't to do this i don't think that will convince her to choose life or be a good mother and to go the way pro-life people want her to go. that's the government taking a position and as a nanny state it will is not the most effective way to get to it pro-life outcome. >> i like to jump in. something you said struck me because i feel that way. personally. i am pro-choice. everyone knows that. i've written about it. people will say baby killer. i had 13 miscarriages and my son died in 2004 and i adopted my son and had my daughter after 13 ivf cycles. to say that i am not pro-life i

almost gave my life trying to give life and to be a mother. i hate that we do that that if somebody is pro-choice, their baby killers but i do feel medical decisions and this is often a medical decision is personal and private and should be between that person, their position in this situation there god. i'd like to add one more thing that i don't talk about this much but i have mentioned it. i was raped and did not get pregnant. i don't know honestly what i would've done. i can't make that judgment for someone else and that is why i will and pro-choice and agree with you. that label doesn't mean you're a baby killer. for me, it means that is not my place to make that decision or have any way in or judgment of that decision. lastly, as mother who has adopted a child it in. me the number of people who stand with signs on the sidewalk and are willing to help that

person if they decided to have the baby by adopting them or helping them pay. >> there are thousands of verbalizations and hundreds of thousands of men and women in this country who work every day for single mothers and pregnant mothers who are in crisis and carry those people from the moment they know they have conceived until those kids are in kindergarten or school. i hate that truth. it's based on -- [inaudible conversations] >> any given day in the united states there are 600,000 to 700,000 in foster care. we can't go down the road who will take care of them because ultimately government takes care of a lot of these children. does that mean that everyone needs to be pro-choice and we should abort all these unwanted pregnancies? of course not but we cannot say we have to force all these

children into a situation where they may end up having to be kept for by the government. you cannot continue to stick people in so black and white. every situation is different. when i'm more concerned about is how the next segment is talking about the dangerous president we are setting with these extreme abortion legislations. tomi: i know we have -- will go into another segment because i know this is a hot topic we got legislation want to go through. when we come back we will continue this topic because i cannot fit it into one segment. will i don't keep track of regrets. and i don't add up the years. but what i do count on... is boost® delicious boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals. boost® high protein. be up for life. my mom washes the dishes... ...before she puts them in the dishwasher. so what does the dishwasher do? cascade platinum does the work for you, prewashing and removing stuck-on foods, the first time. wow, that's clean!

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[laughter] ♪ ♪ "i'm okay." ♪ ♪ ♪ tomi: welcome back to my book special. i'm tomi lahren we have a heated discussion about a big topic in the country which is pro-life, pro-choice, abortion, be productive rights and it all falls under one umbrella. want to ask doctor ward about this because you're leaving the gop interstate and this seems to be this issue, this topic will

be one that will lead us into 2020. where are we as a party on that? >> yes, the republican party is a pro-life party but just as nicole was saying there -- the reasons to play in 2020 is because of the extreme views and extreme stances that many states are taking and i'll tell you that when he ran for office i was attacked for not being pro-life enough because i take a pragmatic stance on policy that is brought before us because i said let's talk about the 24 week span because as a physician i know that it 24 weeks there's no reason to abort the child. the child should be delivered and then what happens "after words" we should decide. because i said that and i support a heart beat feel. i'm for the heart beat bill but pragmatically we started that is a 24 week band we would save more women and more babies than we are doing right now with the politically charged atmosphere saying that you're not pro-choice enough or pro-life

enough. it speaks seeks to raise money for entities or raise political funds and capital rather than do what everyone at the stable want to do which is a moms and babi babies. >> i'm pretty hard-core pro-life but to me i up for this discussion of how bad a person life will be versus stopping their life before it starts. i'm a pragmatist also and realize that we live in a country of diverse opinions and i think when it comes to saving the lives of babies and we do have to reasonably look at this is there a reasonable compromise or a heartbeat law is a great start but you are absolutely right. the problem is that whenever you say can we have a reasonable compromise then there someone in this case the extreme left who's like it's all or nothing. that is putting up voters and turning off the american electorate. it is a real problem in the next election cycle, this hard line,

stands that too many people are taking even on the right thing it's all of this or nothing. we don't live in an all or nothing country. >> i agree with you. look at that data. if you look at the data someone -- democrats on the left are uncountable with third trimester abortions which would be the next horrible -- but this goes too far but politically speaking as a democrat i hope the republicans put this force as their agenda. majority of americans even if they call the results pro-life do not want roe v wade overturned and respect a woman's right to choose and it is not even in the top ten issues for the majority of voters for evangelical publicans, yes, but not majority of voters. [inaudible conversations] tomi: i hope there are bigger issues for me it's immigration

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play dead book special. we continue the conversation. before we left we talked about extremism besides something i had an issue with. being a political talk show in the conservative sphere if you don't fit this list of issues you're not one of us and i think that reaches rather than politics and reaches into personal and professional as well for women and men who feel like they have to fit into some area to get accepted by that group of people and it's attacked by the left to use identity politics but i want -- looking at the conservative movement going forward i see it broken into a lot of factions and it's great to see i'm a black conservative and a female conservative but i fear that were using a tool to the left and it will not be advantageous by breaking us all up. what do you thank you. >> i think it's first -- i think the right has finally decided to play by the rules of the left and i don't know it's a success with being a black woman every woman is assuming my politics and my vote and the second i

start to diverge from that opinion of me i'm often met with vitriol or insults. tomi: because they would tell you you're not black enough. >> i might -- as soon as -- i'm very conservative, libertarian but as soon as i peer into issues that are black centric and might be important to the black community and the white community may not totally understand my inbox is full of hate meals too. [laughter] [inaudible conversations] >> as a position, i get it as well. people say i need to be strong on gun laws and how can you support any guns or advocate for public health and still be a conservative in some form but bottom line is be comfortable in your own skin.

just because you feel this way you can feel this way about this. it doesn't matter. my concern coming up for 2020 is the extremes. medicare for all. heartbeat bill. i think it's an extreme bill. i'm very concerned about taking something and holding a physician potentially been charged with a felony because that's been historically legal. when it comes to a president from set of us. it's compensated. all these issues are completed and what we need to do is get away from this politically heated debate and come together and focus on the nation. >> this is the thing that's troublesome to me. people point figures and say i benefit from it but trust me, i love my job because of it too. take it from both bites and a part of that. the problem with the extremes on both sides is it's either waive your maga hat and record them attacking you or your liberal and where your pink cat in the face.

why are we at a point where everything is so polarized that you have to beat this or that create the other side? is making people money and that is what is so frustrating. >> you hit it. people watching on tv and they are hearing what you're talking about witches usually politics. you are more than that but your someone's daughter, friend and i don't know if you have siblings, sister or brother but people have freaked out when they see you and i plug in the green room. jaws will drop. they like each other? we bonded before she was at fox and debated. >> i see more conservatives and republicans accepting of their democratic friends then democratic -. tomi: we have to wrap this and a couple more segments. i know we all want to talk. this is a commercial about insurance and i know you're thinking. i don't want to hear about insurance. 'cause let's be honest... nobody likes dealing with insurance. right?

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welcome back. i have some fantastic women around me and i would be remiss if we didn't talk about social media, life, validation and all the things that make our society tick. i know you exist on instagram, running for office and in your new role. what you tell your family and your daughter. >> i have three kids. they are 21, 23 and 25. my daughter is the middle and really, i want to inspire that confidence in her. >> having that confidence and faith in your own ability rather than depending on how many likes you get on facebook, how many hearts on instagram, how many retweet to get, those aren't the things that make you who you ar are, i think it's gonna take the confidence of women like all of us to move things in the right direction politically and otherwise in our society. i'm so glad to be part of it. >> were really glad to have you here. >> what about you doctor

nicole safire, how do you deal with instagram and social media. >> i am lucky enough to be the mother of three boys. [inaudible] they keep me busy. we live in a time where the kardashians have major physical attributes that god gave you and, unfortunately it puts pressure on our young ones but also adults. everyone. we have this undying pressure to just look a certain way that's not natural. all i can say is be comfortable in your own skin physically and mentally and emotionally. know what you stand for and be okay with that because everything you see on social media is not real. they are not your friends, they're not really your haters, they are nothing. they don't know who you are. focus on yourself and those around you. >> i have a girl and a boy. my daughter is into tick-tock and they make videos and then they send mean face and poo emojis to others and then she will be crying because

so-and-so did this or that my have to sit her down and say girlfriend, listen, who you are is in here and here. all of this is going to go away. i can even say this because i once said, when have you ever met a hot whatever your old and my mother's like hello, most of us will be hot at a hundred and two. this is just a shell. focus on your heart and on your mind and build those up, what video you put out on tick-tock, you're not can it care about that someday. >> i don't even know what that is. >> you don't want to know. >> i know you have an entire line for women so it's important. >> i was 13-year-old when i was remember starting that journey of becoming confident. i had many years before social media came into the picture to build that foundation of confidence so that when social media came, i can use it to build the business. it was a tool for me. it wasn't something, i try

actually not to wear as much makeup as i can. i try to be as real as i can on social media so people can see the real me and say that's a genuine person who struggles with the same things i struggle with who has had to grind and work really hard to make something of herself and to build the business so i would just tell girls they don't get the luxury of starting before social media comes in. even though you have what i didn't have to deal with, you can still lay bricks of confidence and lay that foundation. >> confidence is something you built. you don't get it all at once. >> i can say this, i feel very strongly that it's important to treat each other with a measure of grace and that is something that is missing and it's the idea of arguing and good faith, not automatically prescribing approvers intentions of people when they make an imposing argument to you, and realizing that every person is valuable, every person has something to give

at the end of the day we can still look at each other and say i have respect for you. [inaudible] i think that's a lesson you can take on social media and in your real and professional life. >> amen to that. just to speak directly to those of you who are going to read this book, this one is very important to me because i've been told i'm not enough by a lot of people. it takes a lot of strength and a very thick skin to understand you are enough no matter who tells you you're not conservative or liberal or feminine or masculine enough, none of it matters. you're probably too much of enough which is where i find myself but that's all the time we have tonight i will see you on fox nation.

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