challenges president trump. this is "outnumbered" and i'm melissa francis. here today, partner harris faulkner. town hall editor and fox news contributor, katie pavlich. syndicated radio host and fox news contributor, leslie marshall. joining us today, editor in chief for "the daily caller" news foundation, christopher bedford. thank you so much for joining us! a >> chris: thanks for having me. >> melissa: we have a lot to get to today. very serious topics. let's get going. we are starting with ten democratic candidates edited that stage during the first insight debate tomorrow night. senator elizabeth warren, former congressman beto o'rourke, and senator cory booker will be among the big names. ten more candidates will debate the following night. many democrats hoping it'll be a showcase of ideas and policies, but a politico headline this morning reads, "democratic bigwigs fear debates will devolve into a horror show." that's their words, warning that internal infighting could hurt the party's chances in the

general election. dnc members and teachers union boss randi weingarten saying, "i'm worried it's going to be a scrum, that circular firing squad is not going to help save our democracy or help working families." in the meantime, a new poll finds many democratic primary voters might not be particularly engaged given the widefield. only 22% of democrats say they know a lot about where the candidates stand on the issues. 62% say they know a little. 15% say they don't know anything at all. in addition, while they have been touted for diversity, a poll finds that a whopping 73% of democratic voters say the quality they value the most is experience in elected office. that was much higher than the next two ideal qualities, being a woman and serving in the military. i will start with you on this one, chris. he wants to know what all the

categories were that they were allowed to choose from. this idea of the time that they've been in office, and their experience, it's interesting they would rank that as first. "i like the swamp," is what it seems like. >> chris: if you saw back poll 20 years ago, but there's been such a mood and both parties to get rid of career politicians and bring in a new face, someone like alexandra kazu cortez or president donald trump. those are usually where these parties are going. better understand some of the bigwigs' fears here. every party gets it. when you are watching the republican debate you thought, as the republicans are saying, their stars are up there on the stage and they are going to rip each other apart. some of the recruiters never covered, like jeb bush. they are not going to recover anytime soon. >> harris: just say what you feel. [laughter] >> melissa: i always feel like this is a good thing. they say it's a circular firing

squad, they will shoot at each other, but i don't know. you are battle-tested, they've tried out all the excuse on each other, and the best person who survives is probably the best person to win. what you think? >> leslie: i agree with you somewhat. i don't like the idea of a circular firing squad, which is going to happen. it'll be interesting to see how joe biden attacks and supports bernie sanders with regard to forgiving college debt as an example to appeal to the left, keeping in mind of the general electorate. but when you look at the time involved, melissa, what concerns me is there are people that are not engaged. you see that poll. that'll change after this week. people will watch and start to become more engaged now. how do you have a policies, defend yourself, and attack your current opponents within your own party in 2 minutes? >> melissa: you are supposed to be run for president, right? >> katie: if any one of these candidates are serious about running against donald trump, they'll have to get through a rough primary process and prove

themselves, that they are capable of standing up to a tough debate, someone who has the experience, who is not afraid to go after tough issues, who is not afraid to be politically incorrect. on the number of people in the democratic party who say they want someone who has off experience, that's because they don't like donald trump. he's a businessman. all the people, the only person who said they might run was howard schultz, and he's never to be found. that never makes a lot of sense. >> harris: i want to pick up on what you are saying about political correctness. that's where democrats really stand out, right? that could be a huge problem for some of these candidates who are trying to stand out on their end and say the things they think the electorate want to hear, a wider electorate, not just the base. to take on donald trump, who is just a master of words and social media, so on and so forth, whether you agree with him or not. that's tough to go when you have a fight over the word "segregationist" going on in the

democratic party. it's not like it's a made up word. [laughs] how does joe biden or any of these -- wow, look at that wall -- any of these people go forward and make the kind of splash they hope to make and then stay within this little chisel box that democrats have made for them? >> katie: this weekend last week we saw a test run of the social justice warriors going after joe biden. cory booker took a shot of him, taking a lot of what he was saying and his record, tried to make it about racism. it didn't actually work. you had john lewis coming out to defend joe biden, james clyburn coming out to defend him, and joe biden was able to dig into his background, his 30 years in the swamp, and say, "that's not who i am, it's a false allegation. you can't just throw it out there as something to attack now because running into a primary together." so the allegations they've been donald trump, they will see if they were given democratic primary. >> melissa: in the meantime,

the president rattles back. in an interview, saying the rest of the group will fire back with how much free stuff they can give away, basically. listen to this. >> i guess it's a big race to who can give away the most and who can raise taxes the most. one of the big things i see -- i give the biggest tax cut in the history of our country. one of their big things is to eliminate the tax cut and raise everybody's taxes. i said, "i don't think that's going to play too well." >> melissa: chris, it comes down to dollars a lot. it seems like these democratic candidates, "i'm going to give away free school, i'm going to give away medicare for all, i'm going to forgive the debt." they don't talk about how to pay for it necessarily, or numbers. their ideas but the mass on them don't work. >> chris: is a big change in the party from ten or 20 years ago, when president barack obama wouldn't put forward these policies because he thought they were too radical. now they are the norm. you see candidates including his vice president struggling with it. racing to see who can go further

to the left. that happens in the primary. the internet is pretty big right now. television is on all the time, these moments where you make to different people, you say this to the guy and i will end this to the guy in massachusetts , that's now captured on camera and it helps candidates more when they get to the general. >> leslie: i think the free stuff will resonate with some. there are 207 districts that voted for barack obama twice and flipped for trump who are struggling economically right now. specifically in iowa and wisconsin and in minnesota. so i think the free stuff appeals -- >> melissa: those people can be bought, is what you are saying? >> leslie: i think anybody listen to a politician left to right, and now we have more people especially in california registering as independent, they are not necessarily looking at the party. but what can you do for me? >> harris: that's interesting. if you are underwater, really having a hard time right now, you can look at that kitchen table issue of the economy and "how can i make my life?"

so i totally get it. it's a bridge too far to say those same people don't appreciate good mass. they don't want to live by broken promises. whatever you are promising them, they want to know it's actually going to happen. i think there's a place for the president to step in, or a republican to step in on his behalf somewhere with an idea for some of those people so that you retain those 207 they mentioned. in the you don't go back to the democrats just because they are promising rang. >> katie: let's be clear about what we're talking about. when we are talking about free stuff, it's taking from an american taxpayer and giving it to someone else. the big policy -- >> katie: and elizabeth warren, who has jumped ahead. they are taking a lot from middle-class, people earning a paycheck and paying taxes, redistribute wealth to others.

joe biden says the first thing he is going to do is repeal the trump tax cuts. he is taking away a tax cut from 80% of the country was paying those taxes. >> harris: and some of those areas where they don't have the deductions, made up a huge part of the refund any category. >> katie: the term free, it's not free. it's coming from someone else. >> harris: president trump ripping on one of the top candidates at the first debate. we are talking again about former vice president joe biden, but in this way. the president says there is something odd going on with that front runner. here is what he told the hill. >> i think hit he is off. he's different. we've known a long time. i don't know i am, but i've seen them for a long time. frankly he looks different, he sounds different, and he thinks different. other than that i hope he does very well. >> harris: it was interesting to see you taking pictures of that.

the president also suggested it suspicious that former president obama has not endorsed biden's white house bid. after eight years of working together. watch. >> how he doesn't get president obama to endorse him, there must be some reason he's not endorsing him. he was the vice president. they seemed to have gotten alon along. why president obama is not endorsing him is rather a big secret. then he goes on lies and says, "i asked him not to endorse me." give me a break. >> harris: meanwhile, biden's chief poster says voter support remain strong despite his so-called "gaffes." he says, "every time there's been what is considered a bad week, or an issue that's going to kill him, it hasn't happened." with the press things is a big deal or a death knell, isn't about us." first of all, it's only been weeks since he had nonce's candidacy. it hasn't killed him yet, what will we do a year from now? >> chris: my good friend did the interview. >> harris: really? >> chris: that is true in some

ways. how many times did you read bobby jindal's strategist saying trump was done because he said something in the green room after debate? it turns out they were wrong. with the media, it's a lot of fun sometimes. we do it at "the daily caller" from now and then to play things up and have fun with these different gaffes. but biden is showing what he has always shown in the past. he starts to falter and is not a great candidate usually on his own. he was a great vice president, he did well with paul ryan, but in previous national elections and races he hasn't done well and i don't think his strategy of not talking to the press unless something is wrong is a good one. >> harris: leslie, we saw a slow roll response debugging videos, so on and so forth. we saw a slow roll in response to the #metoo part of that. we saw a slow roll recently with his comments about working with segregationists, which is not what got them in trouble, it was

the use of the word "boy." we won't even get into it. what is it? is it a delay, is it strategy on his part? he skipped a couple big democratic events. we can talk about why. the point is he's going into this democratic debate without what melissa was talking about. the fight that makes it sharper. that pressure that creates a diamond. >> leslie: i disagree. >> harris: who is giving him pressure? >> leslie: i think he knows and has pressure on that debate stage. he has had a lot of experience. >> harris: and he couldn't win when he had that experience, that's the point that chris was making. >> leslie: i don't know if it's the one on one, to his points. i think he wiped the floor with paul ryan and the vice presidential debate. he saved barack obama, who did terrible in mitt romney into debates back-to-back. it'll be interesting to see how he is on the stage with all these people. to the gaffes, not only do i think the bar has changed with regard to gaffes and what people forgive, but in addition, if you

look at what happened with joe biden, first, when those eight women came forward, he was quiet. then he came out, he was strong, he's like "that's not how i meant it, i'm not apologizing," and he did the same even though cory booker keeps hammering him. it hasn't hurt him at all. >> harris: but he came back and made several explanations without actually talking about it. >> melissa: it's interesting, when you talk about those debates, i have to think back to when it was and i don't even remember those debates. every time 70 comes up with an example about joe biden, all they do is date him and how long he's been around and how long he's been trying for that. at the beginning we were talking about how democrats were the last -- somebody is been in office for a long time. i just don't know that he's up-to-date on how the game is played now. i also think it's interesting, the big deal or death knell isn't to voters. the other thing that's true as of the polls aren't panning out and haven't panned out. what i want to see is, in the

first time people actually go to the ballads in the early states, i want to see if the polls reflect how people believe it. is it is far ahead as it looks in the polls right now? he may be, i don't know. i don't take it as a given. >> harris: former governor ed rendell and chairman of the dnc years ago has said to me -- >> melissa: that was a great interview. >> harris: thank you, he was great. he said, "look, democrats can't take this for granted." he refuses to believe donald trump is 16 points behind anybody, any democrat in the state of pennsylvania. he says what they have to do is remember that some people are just meeting you for the first time. even though joe biden -- >> melissa: to react in those polls, i thought that was so interesting. >> chris: in 2007, i think it was, rudy giuliani was unintelligible at this time versus tyler quentin, that's what everybody expected. we eventually saw that, but it was in a different way.

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>> melissa: fox news alert, democrats divided over how to deal with the humanitarian crisis at the southern border. last night, house speaker nancy pelosi holding reportedly a very tense meeting with fellow democrats. she was reportedly facing a revolt from some progressives who say the bill does not do enough to tie the hands of the trump administration. one border state democrat trying to win over naysayers this morning, watch this. speak of this money cannot be transferred, so it cannot be used for a mass deportation. it cannot be used for an ice deportation force. they have safeguarded the funding that we are going to appropriate today so that it is used for the purposes that we intend for it to be used for. bibs, blankets, diapers, food, legal assistance. we are also funding alternatives to detention. >> melissa: the question now is whether that would be enough

to convince progressive holdouts pray last night, democratic congresswoman ilhan omar emerge from that policy meeting, telling the hill, "we cannot continue to throw money at the dysfunctional system. we are not just asking for simple changes to be made into this bill, but to go back to the drawing board and really address this from humanitarian issue. katie, you are shaking your head. what boggles my mind here is we have horrible, disgusting, horrific situation, a mentoring crisis going on with the board. no matter what channel you watch -- and i watched a bunch of them last night -- it's awful and we cannot go on another day like this. depending on where you are watching, someone blaming someone different, there is enough blame right now to go around to everyone who is involved. how can they continue to fight without getting on a plane and going to do something? >> katie: it's very obvious that the ilhan omars and the

aocs want to use this as a political talking point rather than solving the problem. you have aoc calling hhs facilities and dhs facilities in them, concentration camps. but now when it's getting $4.5 billion to fund the beds, get more diapers, that border patrol agents and hhs staff are trying to take care of. there are over. they don't want to vote for that, they want to talk about a "bigger situation." the fact is they don't want any kind of immigration enforcement or any kind of detention. they want everyone to be able to walk in with nuclear process whatsoever at all. so they will continue to complain about bad humanitarian conditions, because they were the ones holding up funding for very specific humanitarian needs, and using it as a cynical ploy to attack the administration. >> melissa: let me ask you -- now that they made that statement on the record, if you cared both about the children and the political point, you could vote to okay that funding tomorrow and say, "i said i was

afraid that would go for mass deportations," you could fly down there and watch what happened with the money. if it didn't go to beds, blankets, toothpastes, thing for children, you could stand there with the camera and complain. that would be a way to make sure your point that it didn't go deportation, and to help the children. but when you stand there and hold it up and don't do something like that, it looks like you are holding onto a political point of the costs of the children. >> leslie: i understand what it looks like it, but i hear really what they are saying. not only do they want to ensure a stricter standard on the humanitarian level, not just for the children but for all, especially children, the concern is just writing checks. when you have money and there's $2 billion more -- >> melissa: have you seen what's going on with the kids? >> leslie: i agree, but just writing checks, it's money that's appropriated -- >> harris: they are running out of money in less than two weeks to care for these migrant children prelisten. when you see these facilities

shut down in texas, where 300 plus children are in an environment that reportedly was not meant for kids, and they are in dire circumstances, they have to be moved. immediately. listen. when you hear the president say, "to be do this by executive order? is there anything we can't go forward on?" listen, it was your camp that started daca. and an executive order fashion. that has not worked out. a lot of those young people are still in nebulous lands. i'm wondering where the listening tipping point is going to happen. >> katie: democrats don't usually care about government account ability when it comes to money. not all of all of a sudden there's an emergency for funding. >> harris: to be fair, the swamp doesn't care. >> katie: so why are democrats holding it up in the house? the two can i ask you question, though? is this the only option to get money down there? this was the question asked vice president pence. do you need the money to come from this bill, or is there a way to go down there and help those kids tomorrow even if democrats block it? it couldn't or republicans be the hero and go down there with

some emergency funding or something? >> chris: with charity, emergency funding, possibly. making cuts and other budgets, which they've already been doing. >> harris: but that's short-term. >> chris: the issue is just like when you read in the 1960s, some of the radicals on the left had ideas for bankrupting america's cities because it was supposed to help push their policies. with the progressives are pushing, which nancy pelosi is trying to fight against, they don't want people to be detained. if there is a crisis, the detainment of people on the board will reach a tipping point, or maybe they won't be detained at all and they will simply be released. >> leslie: one of the things they don't want -- and i would like to speak to what they don't want -- they don't want children lb on 72 hours. they want the current -- >> melissa: where did they go? >> leslie: for example, the administration, the president could sign -- it would go to families within the united states. >> katie: who are not vetted, by the way.

they talked about this during the obama administration, they will were not vetting sponsors, they were sent to these families being traffic abuse. lift make sure they are not sending them to predators. >> harris: >> leslie: we have ty and the administration to have have -- the asylum officials right now have the ability to, right there, at the border, make determinations. people can be turned around and sent back. there's less people, and they wouldn't sit 33 to five year court backlog in the immigration courts. >> harris: if that were true, the court steps would be filled with people waiting to get into the courts. that's not true. we've got to find some of these people. >> melissa: 's got to go. chicago police releasing video from their investigation of jussie smollett and the alleged folks hate crime. he is seen then by the camera footage with a noose around his neck. with this could mean for

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♪ >> harris: brand-new details out now on the case of jussie smollett. yes, it's still a case, apparently. chicago police have released nearly 70 hours of video related to the investigation into the "empire" actor accused of staging a hate crime attack on himself in january. in this exchange, smollett the scene with a white robe around his neck telling officers that he was brutally attacked on the streets of chicago. watch.

the officers turned off their body cameras after smollett told them he did not want to be filmed. he was later charged with filing a false police report. then in a surprise move, prosecutors dropped the entire case against him in march. meanwhile, police also released new video from the night of the alleged attack of the two brothers police say smollett paid off to help them stage the hate crime. last week, a judge appointed a special prosecutor to look into whether cook county state attorney kim foxx mishandled the case against smollett. that ruling leaves over the possibility that smollett could face new charges and a whole new investigation. leslie? >> leslie: i have to say, when i saw the video, the first thing that bothers me -- and there's a lot of stuff that bothered me -- was that the noose is still around his neck. think about this, if somebody put something around my neck, first thing you do is take that off. i understand what he was saying, that he wanted them to see it, but it bothered me. another thing that bothered me

was that he picked up his sandwich that have been tossed on the dirty streets of the chicago sidewalk and brought it home to eat? these little things, may be i'm nitpicking, but i think that's a people do at the release of thi this. i think that the police, in releasing best, are open to fan the flames, to get the charges, because of the outrage. also the police department saying, "we had 15 people from three different apartments on this." >> harris: not only that. you had a tv star who is obviously walking around with that white robe, still long after the fact, as some sort of evidence. asking police who, in this country, you're asking them to turn on body cameras. asking them to turn off the tv cameras. a man who shows up, at the one time we see him, after charges are dropped. we can't even see his eyes. it was a nice day in chicago but nobody else was wearing mirrored sunglasses.

i have a lot of questions about just sort of the individual. maybe some of those will be -- the relationships, too, with kim foxx. who is politically facing reelection. chris? >> chris: i think from the beginning of this case, the beginning accusations, on a freezing night in chicago, a couple of red hat-wearing -- >> harris: not a freezing night, a polar vortex. [laughter] >> chris: a couple of republican supporters going around looking for jussie smollett because they watch "empire" i guess? to attack them. though things absurd. we saw the conference with mayor rahm emanuel and the police chief and how clearly angry that we are with the way the state prosecutor handled the case. the police reacting to it and saying, "here's what we did," >> harris: the facts out there there, and may be via some of this evidence we will see. >> melissa: i think that's the most important part of this. that you had a state attorney, kim foxx, who said she is recusing herself and then did

not. but one of her top aides, she was sort of doing it for someone else. how the judge ultimately ruled. it's really important to highlight and then rectify that wrong, because that is not justice. that is not how our system works. that is not how people who are elected to get in there and make sure justice happens for everyone, they can't be -- they can't operate that way. if you want justice to be fair and color-blind and all these different things, and not have two systems in this country, that has to be addressed, exposed, rectified, and that's what's important. >> harris: the two systems, i know some people make it down a lane of reese and all, but it's really about privilege. treatment. elite treatment. my question would be, look at the total picture on all of this. he paid a $10,000 fine. but the police department resources were much more than that.

so how do you right this? where is the justice? >> katie: he also paid for the white robe he chose to keep on his neck, and he wanted to show the police because he wanted to make up this entire story. the police are upset about this for two big reasons. that they were smeared a setting this up and going after him unfairly. we have a reason they are outraged is this sets a precedent free people who file false police reports. there was another case after this happened where someone was being charged with filing a false police report in court, and the judge got very upset with kim foxx and said, "well, we know how we handle false police reports now, don't we?" in this issue, it goes back to what millis and harris were just saying about equal justice and how people are treated. because this is such a high-profile case that he made up up and got away with, they are worried about the little guys who don't actually get the same treatment. >> harris: and there's the issue of real hate crimes.

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♪ >> katie: california's democratic governor, gavin newsom, no fan of president trump. his administration has filed more than 50 lawsuits against current policies since he was

elected in january. now he is slamming the republican party, saying it will be relegated to "third party status" due to its emphasis on "demonizing the other, xenophobia, and hyper masculinity." watch. >> i'm honestly empathetic toward what they are about to experience, which is a profound demise because of their own making. until you have some courageous republicans who stand up and actually make an argument for conservatism, they are finished. they have no governing philosophy. they have no value system that is interesting except fear of others. those of us are going to be a majority. >> katie: in the meantime, the department of housing and urban development since california ranks number one in homelessness, nearly 130,000 people in 2018. this year alone, the los angeles homeless services authority reports the homeless population in the city has risen by 16%. lastly, our resident californian, please

explain why he's going after toxic masculinity when he is such a serious problem in california. >> leslie: there's two things here. when you are looking at what he is saying, and you take everything not out of context, he's talking about the state of california and the republican party in the state of california. they only hold seven seats in the state legislature. numerically, he is correct. that's good homelessness, which is a bigger issue. you are correct, 16% rise. why the increase? and a lot of people say california -- even the people like to think we are starving, we have a surplus bigger than we have had in 20 years right now. why isn't the money paying for it? there are a few issues. in addition to mental illness and to drug addiction, we have more families that are becoming homeless and there are a couple of reasons there. one, we have a housing crisis. not only the pricing, especially if you look at silicon valley outside of san francisco and within the city of san francisco, but we also have a housing shortage. los angeles, we are seeing that a lot. in addition, they are putting up houses and turning hotels and

building more shelters. the more they build, they can't keep up, honestly, with a number of people who are becoming homeless. >> melissa: you were so close right there! use of the more they build, because they have thrown a ton of money at the problem, and they have thrown money at building all these facilities. it hasn't worked, because we knew raised more money in front of the problem, it doesn't work. when it does is attract more people. the weather is great, the laws are easy, it's in sanctuary city, they have spent money and attracted more homeless. okay, they have every right to do that in california. have a budget surplus, they tax people to death, and people who stay are happy to pay that money and happy with the outcome. in my opinion, he is running for president there. he's doing all of these different interviews. you know what? if california wants to run it that way, rock on with your bad selves. do that way. anybody who stays and pays the taxes as part of it. he was talking about the demise

of the republican party nationally, not locally. but i was in north carolina over the weekend talking to a man who had driven from california, his family owned business for 50 years, he couldn't keep up with minimum wage, he couldn't pay his people, he was disgusted with the homelessness, so he sold his business and his house and he left. great for him. that's what america is all about. if you don't like your government, go somewhere else. it's only when this is done on the federal level that you can't escape. so actually i have no problem with what he's doing. i don't think it's working, but if you are unhappy with it, leave. >> chris: i think republicans and americans and anyone here should listen very closely to him, because he does have a point. the things that we had laugh about and make fun of, these ideas that come out of california, ten or 20 years latr they are either policy or at least a platform of a major party. that is spreading. people should look at california and look at the problems they're having and say, "do we want this on the national scale like he's promising?" >> katie: we believe that they are.

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>> melissa: we want to bring you some quick breaking news right now. the first lady is tweeting right now, "i am pleased to announce that stephanie grisham will be the next press secretary and comms director. she has been with us since 2015. we can think of no better person to serve the administration and our country. excited to have her working for both sides of the white house. #bebest. so she will be replacing sarah sanders in that role. we will bring you more news on that as we get it. more "outnumbered" in a moment. let's go up and touch base with harris faulkner as he was coming at. >> harris: we are working on that breaking news and we will have more information on that replacement, if you could ever do it for a press secretary it's a difficult job. also we will have a "outnumbered overtime" exclusive for cable tv with a friend of this missing utah college student. mckenzie vanished after taking a lift car from the airport.

they have since talked to that lyft driver and cleared him. now a curious new twist, and questions why she went off the grid so suddenly. i will ask her friend about all of it. plus, president trump suggesting there is something fishy behind former president obama not yet endorsing his former vice president joe biden. does the president have a point? will get into all of it, plus the breaking news on the new white house press secretary. melissa? >> melissa: president trump speaking out on yet another national anthem protest. this time involving u.s. women's soccer star megan rapinoe. just like with the nfl player protests, the president telling "the hill," this demonstration is not appropriate. rapinoe refusing to sing "the star-spangled banner" before each world cup match to show her displeasure with social injustice in the united states. she tells yahoo sports, "i am as talented as i am, i get to be here. you don't get to tell me if i can be here or not, so it's kind

of good if -- f you," okay, got it. "to any sort of inequality or bad sentiments that the end the administration might have towards people who don't look exactly like him." bringing it up to the couch. i love the soccer team, i can't get enough of these matches. >> katie: i love it, too, because it represents the united states america, and i think it's really unfortunate she would take this opportunity to slam the united states, which is the most amazing, incredible country in the world, that has afforded women more opportunities than the knee country in the world, to say that there is some kind of equal injustice when it comes to the other teams that she is playing against. you want to talk about injustice? let's talk about women in china. china soccer team, what they have to -- they should be forced to go play soccer. i have no patience for it. she should stand for the

national anthem, for the flag, and do what she wants because she's american, but definitely not a fan. >> leslie: i disagree with that. [laughter] >> melissa: that is shocking. [laughter] >> leslie: one of the things that makes the united states stand up for many of the country is the freedom to stand there and to be silent or to kneel or to not put your hand over your heart. it's what our men and women fight for freedom for, with the flag stands for and should stand for, and our national anthem, and other countries get to see this. because in china, iran, all these other countries, you can be shot for doing that. she has the right to do it. quite frankly, because she has the right to do it, that is her choice. >> katie: sure, but it doesn't make her less unpatriotic. >> chris: you can be a jerk if you want. >> leslie: you are a jerk if you're not patriotic? why? >> chris: the country is separated by coasts, politics, it's been divided before. the only thing that brings

together his respect for the flag and for the anthem, no matter where you are. left or right come up or down, rich or poor. to attack the things that unify us as a nation is one of the most dangerous, insidious things in modern politics. >> katie: especially overseas. >> leslie: i still disagree. [laughter] >> chris: you don't look like chum, though! >> melissa: i just want to watch soccer! more "outnumbered" in just a moment. we're carvana, the company who invented

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white house secretary, press secretary job, as communications director, will do in the white house now from melania trump's teammate. the first lady's twitter account just tweeted, "she has been with us in 2015. the president and i can think of no better person to serve the administration and our country, excited to have stephanie working for both sides of the white house. #bebest. "melania trump riding that in her account on twitter. grisham serves, as i mentioned, is the first lady deputy chief of staff inc. mitigation structure and is seen as leading candidate for the open job left behind. and will be so in the next few days. sarah sanders announcing her resignation from her post earlier this month. this is happening, too. i want you to note the timing, this comes amid the agency of cuom