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>> shannon: just a reminder, we have special coverage, 11:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. eastern. we will see you there from miami. most watched, most trusted, most grateful you spent the evening with us. goodnight from d.c. ♪ >> tucker: welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the g20 comes to japan this week, the president arriving with the rest of the world levers paired will be interviewing him at the end of the week, and we will bring you that when we do. but first, a remarkable media story we want to bring you tonight. there was joy in newsrooms across america last week when a 75 euros writer for " ""elle" magazine," called east jean carroll came forward to accuse the president of sexually assaulting her. she made a clue serious claims but they were confusing. she said sometime in 1995 or 1996, donald trump groped her in a new york city department store.si
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somehow, the two wound up together in a dressing room, and somehow she decided to model lingerie and the assault took place. that's her story. carroll said she was devastatedl by what happened, but she didte not reported to law enforcement for some reason, nor did she write about it, though she is a writer. instead, she waited nearly a quarter century to include the story in a book that isdi literally entitled "what do we need men for?" in thatt book, by the way, carroll also accuses les moonves of a sexual assault. she writes that that he attacked her in an elevator in los angeles after she had finished interviewing him for a piece in "esquire"e" magazine. and yet, amazingly, she never mentioned the attack in the story that she wrote about him. both trump and les moonves deny that this ever happened. and there is no corroborating evidence that it did. according to "the atlantic" and "huffington post" and stephen colbert, carroll's tallegation against the
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president, whichpo is a felony, is "credible." it's a credible accusation. harvard graduate lawrence o'donnell was so impressed by it that he gave carroll half of his show. >> i wish i had said i will tell you my age if you show me your tax returns. >> it would have been -- soak would you consider bringing a rape charge against donald trump for this? >> no. >> why not? >> i would find it disrespectful to the women who are down on the border who are being raped around-the-clock without any protection. what do you want to say to donald trump? >> that terrifies me that you said that. that is -- >> they thought of confronting him? >> no. >> this is me talking. i think this is a moment of reckoning for the me too movement.nk that people, me too, you should
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take everyone seriously. >> tucker: i wish i had asked for his tax returns. i won't bring criminal charges because it would disrespect women at the border who are getting raped 24/7. come on, this is absurd did these aren't serious accusations from a rape victim, these are wacky sound bites. anderson cooper appeared to be had in the story. as he tried to interview east jean carroll, she went into a bizarre digression as she described rapepe as "sexy." >> so this one incident, this one, what, 3 minutes in this dressing room, i just say it's a fight. that way, i'm not the victim. right? i'm not the victim. >> you don't feel like a victim?? >> i was not thrown on the ground and ravished. which, the word "rape" carries so many sexual connotations, but this was not sexual. it hurt. >> i think most people think of
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rape as a violent assault. >> i think most people think of rape as being sexy. >> let's take a short break. we are going to take a quick break, and if you can stick around, we will talk more on the other side. >> you're fascinating to talk to. >> tucker: [laughs] "we are taking a quick break." how's that for the weirdest exchange of the week?? you can see cooper desperately trying to dump out to a commercial break when your star witness starts rambling on about rape fantasies, it is time to shut the whole thing down before it undermines our case. and they are making a case, asking questions might review rl the truth, and that is the last thing they want to happen, ever. chris plant host chris plant showed, always happy to have him on. chris, what do you make that exchange? >> wow, that was something. did they go to a three-minute break? because i'm curious as to how that all turned out.
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it's embarrassing. a i mean, look, these people have no credibility, honestly. anderson cooper and don lemon, for god sake, don lemon theorized that the indian airliner that disappeared over the indian ocean was sucked up by a black hole, and he is still on the air. lawrence o'donnell, i mean, come on. the poor woman, the poor, poor woman. she is a 75-year-old woman. she obviously doesn't quite remember exactly what happened 24, 25 years ago, doesn't know exactly what year it was. knows what department store it was, a well populated department store with a lot of security and a lot of cameras, and it seems to me, something happening in bird doors is probably unlikely. but okay, and as you said, she is selling a book. she's out making the rounds on the shows after having kept this dark secret for 24, 25 years, and now she talks about how rape is sexy and rape fantasies, then
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begins flirting with anderson cooper. i think that is going nowhere. and it's just getting weirder all the time. and obviously, look, tucker, you know the standard in the media for a republican is thean accusation. look at brett kavanaugh, youcc look at any republican, the mere accusation is enough to hang you from the tallest tree. but at the same time, across the river from where i am now in washington, in virginia, there is a lieutenant governor, a democrat, justin fairfax, who has twice recently been accused, very credibly, by very credible women, of raping them. and the other day, i wish i was making this up, he said that his career has experienced a great boost from this, his political fortunes are now greater than ever. and he's thinking about running for governor. when you are a democrat the media says, two rape accusations? maybe you should be the next governor after the guy with the klan outfit and the blackface.
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but if you are republican and a woman falls through the ceiling tiles, is selling a book. goes on nbc and cnn, flirts with the anchor, says that rape is sexy, talks about rape fantasies, and this is good enough for prime time, at least for msnbc and cnn -- which is why nobody watches them, by the way. >> tucker: it's embarrassing, and discrediting for all involved. chris, great to see you tonight. you remember a year ago that the press raced to believe totally unsupported accusations against brett kavanaugh, some flagrantly inflamed because d they didn't like him. now it looks like they're doing the same thing again. heather mcdonald is the author of "diversity solutions." i can't get past us simple fact, because rape is a real thing and an act of violence, some of it is downplayed, as you well know. i can't get over the fact that people accuse it rape 25 years
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or 20 years after the fact, if you are raped, which is a felony, don't you have anve obligation to the rest of our society to put that person behind bars, to protect the rest of your neighbors? don't you? >> yeah, carroll's explanation for why she does not want to go forward if they police investigation is completelye preposterous and shows how deeply politicized of this beardsley . she's trying to bring in the trunk create a crisis on the border, so many women are getting raped at the border, is a reason for the police not to look into a rapepe investigatio. we are living, tucker, they were all the weaponized feminism. obviously, sexual assault is real, but this case simply does not stand up to any kind of credible investigation. i think reporters should be asking questions. this is a woman at 52, who by all of her own accounts in an ' '95 "esquire" 95 esquire articly of expanse with men, believe you me, and she agrees to go into a
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dressing room to try on a piece of see-through lingerie because, explanation, she thinks she's going to persuade trump to put it on over his pants and greatcoat. this is preposterous. this is a woman who now says she wants to live in a world without men. her bookok is going around, askg women, why do we need men? she got the inspiration because the women writing into her advice column blamed all of their problems on men. imagine if a man blamed all of his problems on women. he would be viewed as a whiner and somebody not really in touch with his own situation. but feminism now is being used as a way to take out politicians we don't like, and to try to change the culture radically. >> tucker: so why would the press go along with that? why wouldn't someone over the course of the interview, especially if you gave w up afr
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half year show, as apparently this anchor did, why wouldn't you press the person on the question of reporting the crime? how could you have let 25 years go by, knowing that this guy is capable of rape -- and she did, by the way, allege rape in her book. you can read the expert online, it's rape fair why wouldn't someone pressed her on that? >> well, the press is in resist mode, and they are also in believe survivors mode. they have decreed a contrary to the traditions of western jurisprudence that any female who alleges rape is entitled to unquestioning belief. this is a complete reversal of the principles that have made western civilization the beacon of success that it is, but the feminists tell us that those principles have to be junked in order to empower women andci to destroy the male patriarchy. the price is on board this, we saw that in the kavanaugh
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hearings and christine blasey ford. this is the entire field of brett kavanaugh hearings played out again by somebody who aspires in her own book to be -- of her time pitches jealous of the columbia student who falsely accused another columbia student of rape and then carried her mattress around with her. carroll believes this is one of the greatest art exhibits of all time, so this is a "me too" wannabe who is getting her place in the sun. >> tucker: thank you for all the work you have done trying to save our civilization from collapse. great to see you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: the price has gone to great lengths, as we said, g did describe carroll's allegations as "credible," but they have had no time at all to assess what appeared to be actually credible claims about ilhan omar. and what looks like immigration fraud. we'll have more on that story later in the hour. new investigation has exposed google's efforts to make sure the 2020 election goes the way
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it wants, we know which way that is. google naturally is doing its best to suppress and hide the story, and lie about it there that's just ahead as we continue live tonight in tokyo head of the president's visit to world leaders in japan. we will interview him later on this program. we'll be right back. ♪ [ giggling ] let's play dress-up.
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back in america, but, it might determine what happens in the next presidential election. a google whistle-blower has come forward to describe his company's plans to remake the american political landscape. google, of course, the most powerful company in the world, so when an anonymous whistle-blower comes forward, in this case telling project veritas that google is using internal algorithms to shape what americans see online, andta by essentially what they think, you better take itus seriously. >> it is a dog whistle. it does not mean what you think it means. you have to apply doublethink in order to understand what they are really saying. what they are really saying about fairness is they have to manipulate their search results so it gives them the political agenda that they want. and so, they have to re-bias their algorithms, so that they can get their agenda across. >> tucker: that's the definition of propaganda,
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again being perpetuated by the single most powerful company in the history of the world. this is not surprising to viewers of this show. a james doran was fired from google for his political views, his totally conventional, moderate political views, and then came on the show to describe the culture at google. watch this. >> there are definitely some political biases within google that i was trying to shed light on in the document, and that they affect many parts of the business, for example, who they do business with and what type of content they create. and i really think those political biases need to be addressed. >> tucker: it's not just whistle-blowers. hidden camera footage obtained by project veritas shows conversations with jen deny, her google title is ahead of responsive innovations. in that video, google is working specifically on products to make sure donald trump does not win
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another election. "we are also trade training are algorithms like of 2016 happened again, with the outcome be different? people were not putting that line in the sand, that they were not saying that what is fair, what is equitable, so we are like, well, we are a big company, we are going to say it." in other words, we are going to try to affect the outcome of the 2020 presidential campaign. they go on to blast elizabeth warren's proposal to break google up into two can know my. "all of these smaller companies that don't have the same resources we do will be charged with preventing the next trump situation. it's like a small company cannot do that." so using a company's dominance on the internet to sway the outcome of an election. that's their plan. there should be a term for what she is describing. it turns out there is a term, it's a term you've heard constantly from talking heads on television for more than two yearson. it's calledd hacking an electio. google wants to hack our election. they are saying that out loud.
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as we've been told all the over and over again by "the washington post" on "the new york times" ," and all the other propagandist, hackingn an election is a very bad. at minimum, it warrants a multiyear investigation by law enforcement agencies. and yet, it's happening now. the washington establishment has said they want to prevent election interference, but of course that's a lie. they just want to make sure they control the elections, that is their only goal. that is why they're not attacking the real source of election interference, which isr silicon valley. they have more power than russia ever has or ever will have their no serious person doubts that. but the people in charge of our country don't care about any of that, because when google metals in an election, democrats benefit. by the way, if you want to find that video, you can't access it on youtube. [laughs] google took it down. that's not surprising. you could already be tossed of youtube and facebook if you decide they are using speech you don't like. they will accuse you of hate
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speech, whatever that means. now they can toss you off their sites just for putting up videos that make you look bad. they probably won't be banning any dmz videos anytime soon, you can be certain of that. meanwhile, this week, a knitting site with 8 million members banned all explicit support for donald trump, and only donald trump. and they got away with it. because they've gotten away with it, other platforms will almost certainly do the same thing. all of this is going on in public, but most republicans haven't even responded to it. they haven't reacted at all. as soon as the 2016 election was over, the press and big tech plotted to control the narrative in 2020, which is a way to say control the outcome of 202020. and using fake news as an excuse to control the public discourse. republicans were in charge of congress at the time -- they did nothing for the white house commends a vast regulatory apparatus, they sat motionless and done nothing. the only republican who seems even interested at all in the subject in keeping big tech and check it all is
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senator josh hawley, introduced a bill that would force tech companies to act as genuinely open platforms in order to receive valuable regulatory benefits. that is the deal -- they are violating the deal, no one else seems to care. passing holly's bill does not seem to be a priority, no one in congress is talking about it. that's a big mistake. successful political parties look out for their supporters and for the public at large, to protect them from harm. republicans, meanwhile, are sitting in a stupefied fog of libertarianism, doing nothing while their ideas are suppressed and their supporters are silent. one day, they will look up and find they have no supporters at all. who will be to blame for that? only themselves. dr. robert epstein is not a republican, but he is the preeminent researcher into this subject, a senior research psychologist at the americanre behavioral institute of behavior.he he is the great expert on the effect of tech companies on political discourse. dr. epstein, thank you very much for coming on. >> always a pleasure.
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>> tucker: seeing this videotape, reading the quotes from this google executive, does this confirm what you have said in the past? are you surprised by this? what is your response? >> i'm not surprised in the least, it confirms in glowing terms, or in very ugly terms, if you want to look at it that way, that google has the power to shift opinion and votes on a massive scale, but they exercise this power. this is what i measure in my research. i can tell you precisely how many votes they canth shift. i can tell you fairly precisely how many votes they shifted in 2018. >> tucker: so why is that not hacking an election? >> well, did not hacking an election rightt now because of google and similar companies like facebook are completely unregulated in the
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united states, so they can do whatever they please. and if they all work together in 2020 support the same presidential candidate, which is very likely, and probably it will be a candidate that i support, by the way, they can shift upwards of 15 million 1 votes with no one knowing that they've been manipulated, and without leaving a paper trail for authorities to trace. >> tucker: so that's it, there is no election at that point. our democracy is not real if that is allowed to happen, correct? >> well, democracy becomes an illusion now. there are actions one can take. i set up, so far the only two big monitoring systems that anyone has built to actually look over people's shoulder as they are doing election-related online activities, and to aggregate that information and see what they are being shown by
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these big companies. now, in 2020, i'm actually trying right now to raise funds to build a large scale monitoring system to keep an eye on these companies and to catch them in the act, literally catch them, when they are manipulating votes and opinions. and in my opinion, that's the only way we can stop them. there are no laws in place that can stop them at the moment. >> tucker: calling attention to it might be the first step, and you have done more thanst anyone to do that. dr. epstein, thank you very much.te >> my pleasure. >> tucker: dave rubin hosts the rubin report and his channel is one of the channels that google's algorithms worked to suppress. watch this..el >> right after that happened a lot of the content creators and started to get the monetized, and their videos started -- i'm talking about dave rubin. >> tucker: dave rubin himself
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joins us tonight. h what do you make of that, dave, when you hear that? >> tucker, i guess you didn't know when you came to my house to do my show, my little garage studio, and you played with my dog and saw my backyard chickens, you didn't know what a crazed, right-wing radical i was. i'm glad to have gotten that out there. ofcr course, this is complete nonsense appeared we've discussed this many times. i am an old school liberal, so this is not like i'm some far lefty or some far righty appeared i'm trying to build bridges here, and even that now is becoming too extreme for what google and youtube are allowing to happen. one of the things that i've done that i'm most proud of, actually, is i've had conservatives on my show, like you, like o dennis prager, ben shapiro, et cetera. and i've treated you with respect and decency, and that really is with the mainstream media, "the new york times," cnn crew doesn't want people to see. they just want to create a character of all of you guys pair that is sort of why they're coming after me.
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but i will say this, just moments before we started here, i just got notified that susan majeski, the ceo of youtube, she actually followed me on twitter. i've got over a million subscribers on there, and so much as an email address at youtube, but maybe i'm starting to make some headway now. quickly, to your point on where sort of libertarians are at right now, i think there's an interesting moment here were generally small government people -- and i think you're sort of in that group, too -- our limits are being pushed on what small government actually means. for me, i would always prefer a private answer to this in competition, but maybe there has to be a sort of 2-pronged approach where politicians are putting pressure and public people are putting pressure, and we can maybe make these companies sort of be a little more transparent, be a little more open, which is really what anyone is asking for here. >> tucker: i would bring them to heal by force tomorrow.w. as aor libertarian solution peed would you allow a power company to say we are denying you
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electricity because you voted for someone we don't like? of course, we would not allow that. >> i think that's a totally valid argument. exist because you allow them to exist. >> i think that's a totally valid argument. as my friend eric weinstein says, one day are we going to get to the point where republicans are going to be allowed to have phones in their homes? that sort of where we are headed with all of this. companies with public pressure might move -- but you might be right, and i think that is an incredibly rich debate that we should be having more often. >> tucker: yeah, i never thought i would say that. dave rubin, great to see you. you. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: so do you hate fun? are you not bored enough at t work, do you have a strange desire to inflict suffering upon yourself that you are somehow unable to fulfill? don't worry, we have an answer for you. 18 18 hollywood actors have band together for a 10-act play in which they read all 448 pages of
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the mueller report. >> robert mueller says the report speaks for itself. tonight, that voice resonates through a cast of remarkable actors. >> in ten act of obstruction. s >> some people came to a different conclusion, like attorney general bill barr. >> tucker: [laughs] the malignant pomposity of the modern left. totally lacking self-awareness! it's really, it's beyond parody. the play, if you can call it that, was performed live in new york. in case you are needing help too get to sleep, you can watch a video of the entire hour-long performance online -- of course you are going to want to -- again and again. following president trump scaffold i.c.e. raid, the left is more brazen on immigration than ever before. they want open borders, and they are saying that out loud for everyone, no matter what the consequences. that's next, live from tokyo.
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♪ >> tucker: welcome back to "tucker carlson tonight." live this whole week from japan ahead of the president's visit here. right now though, back in the u.s., the president signaling that he might try to enforce the immigration laws in response, democrats are outraged, and basically have become straightforward with what theyy really want: open borders. on "face the nation," senator bernie sanders signaled that all deportations are morally unacceptable, even for those who have gone to court and been told to leave this country legally. watch this. >> there are i.c.e. raids set to start, estimate summit 2,000 people or so who will be targeted. is this appropriate? >> no, it's not, it's absolutely not appropriate. >> the 2,000 that are supposed to be targeted haven't shown up
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for court dates. they are essentially not following the asylum process, the legal standards when they are here. so should they be prosecuted? should they be deported? >> i don't like this deportation thing at all, and i think trump uses this as a beginning to do or worse things to come. >> tucker: what a buffoon. what a buffoon. not to be outdone, house speaker nancy pelosi was even more blunt about it, repeatedlyn and flagrantly breaking our laws, even after coming here illegally, is not a reason to make someone leave, she said. watch this. >> and i saw the present was going to have these rates -- it's so appalling, is outside the circle of civilized human behavior, to be splitting up families, knocking down doors. in addition to the injustices that are happening at the border. we have legislation to go forward to address those needs. a violation of staters is not a reason for deportation. >> tucker: google the phrase
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"out of touch rich person," and her image emerges. still, she is not the most extreme of the democratic party right now. alexandria ocasio-cortez, her faction in the house is demanding that congress cut off funds to the border patrol. in other words, open borders are no longer enough. soon, it will be literal open borders, for real. what will happen to the country at that point? jason johnson is the founder of jay 2 strategies, also a former advisor to senator ted cruz in texas, and he joins us tonight. jason, thanks very much for coming on. it's hard to know whether they mean this or not, because you take the democratic party -- and not even the wacko left online, but elected democratic officeholders are saying on television, if you're going to take it seriously, what would happen to america? >> it's out of control. it's crazy. you have the leader, and make no mistake, tucker, aoc is the leader of today's
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democratic party, as you know, coming out and labeling detention centers "concentration camps," so we shouldn't be surprised when the speaker of her party and the leading democratic socialist candidate for president falls in line with aoc. and i tell you, the more they fall in line with aoc, tucker, the more out of touch they are with the american public. there is a recent gallup poll that shows for the first time immigration and illegal aliens where the highest mentioned when asked in an open-ended fashion, the american public, what's the biggest problem facing the united states? the only thing to beaded out? government, that was it. >> tucker: so this is tabsolutely destroying america, there is really kind of no question about it. just look at the trajectory. republicans are doing nothing about it. nothing. so why would any republican member of the united states senate, for example, who is into
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making this a top priority, why would that person get votes from any again? >> i can't imagine. look, as you know, tucker, the goalposts have been moved so much in this immigration debate. a decade ago, we were talking about whether or not to grant amnesty for those in the country illegally. now, we have, as you just pointed out, republicans in the senate who are advancing a bill, right, after the president requested help for this crisis, that doesn't even provide a dime for border security. and i tell you, we have a senator here in the state of texas who is up for reelection in 2020, and they need to pay attention, they need to get out of their d.c. bubble, and realize, they're not only out of touch with conservatives. they are not only out of touch with moderate republicans. they are out of touch with mainstream americans when it comes to border security and immigration. >> tucker: it's not a partisan question. do you care about america or not?th honestly, that's where we are.
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jason, thank you very much. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: wind energy is a key component of the green new deal, but would wind power save the environment or devastate the environment? we hit the road to investigate that question, just ahead, as we continue to broadcast this morning -- it is morning here -- from beautiful tokyo, japan. we will be right back. ♪ i tokyo, japan. we will be right
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♪ >> tucker: thanks to relentless flogging by alexandria ocasio-cortez, the green new deal, whatever that is, is rapidly becoming orthodoxy on the left. what would it mean to implement it? well, even the most basic version of the green new deal would require shutting down most existing power sources in this country and replacing them
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with so-called renewables such as wind. that sounds appealing, but what would actually happen to the environment, our economy, and the people who live here if we try to do that? to find out, the show recently spoke to commercial fishermen. they describe the harmful effect wind energy -- green energy -- has had on their livelihood and the ocean itself. check it out. >> west townsend has been fishing off the coast of delaware for more than four decades but thanks to federal climate policy has livelihood may become extinct. america's entire commercial fishing industry could go with it. >> this could be the end of our business, something that we worked our whole lives for. that all of a sudden now, our boats aren't going to be worth anything, our permits aren't going to be worth anything. >> it's going to destroy the ocean. >> wind farms have the potential to greatly harm the environment. researchers in great britain found that the noise caused by builiding the wind farms limited the ability of sea bass
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to coordinate their movement to one another and make them vulnerable to predators. marine experts have blamed wind farms for whales found washed up on shore. they also pose serious safety hazards to mariners around the world. >> navigation is going to become very unreliable. they do not allow the vessels inside wind farms for navigational reasons. >> in the name of saving the earth, big corporations are funding the environment. many have sounded the alarm about this, but so far businesses have prevailed. plans have now been approved to install massive new wind farms along the east coast of the united states. one near martha's vineyard could be the largest in the world. this offshore wind project will take up roughly 1400 square miles, that's larger than the state of rhode island. >> they are being cited on prime commercial fishing grounds without any regard for pre-existing uses. we will not be able to fish during construction, and most commercial fishing vessels will
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not be able to fish after construction, either. >> represents the area and congress. he has called for a federal study connecting the effect of these wind farms. >> the bottom line is it's one of the most expensive ways to generate electricity. >> tucker: to the question is if we are going to install windfalls that will crush fisheries, a multibillion-dollar industry come and treat eye sores on beaches up and down the coast, who benefits, exactly? >> one of the other problems with these federal tax subsidies is the owners of these wind farms all turn out to be global, international, offshore, foreign companies. the bottom line is we are going to have american taxpayer dollars going to these foreign companies. >> tucker: fishermen on the east coast of the united states have one final hope: that president trump will get involved. >> what happened to america first? i thought this president at everybody else said let's protect americans. that's what we are, honest,
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hardworking americans. let's stop this. at least put a study to it. >> tucker: whatever happened to america first? good question pair there is another side to this story, there always is. we would like to hear a pair we welcome anyone representing commercial wind farms to on this show any time to explain why they are good for america -- and by the way, why they are good for the environment, for the fish? good question. cnn and msnbc are utterly obsessed with these new and bizarre allegations against the president. why are they ignoring actual allegations? apparently real ones, against congresswoman ilhan omar of minneapolis. that's next. plus, the nba has announced it is banning the word "owners," there bizarre reason just ahead, live from tokyo, japan. we'll be right back. ♪ when you're not able to smile, you become closed off. i felt withdrawn, alone... having to live with bad teeth for so long
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♪ >> tucker: welcome back from tokyo. if you've been watching the news recently you've noticed that cnn, msnbc, and network news all spent the last week covering m salacious and demented allegations against the president. they have done virtually nothing though on far more believable allegations on congresswoman ilhan omar of minnesota. we are all the way off in japan and even we were able to cover it. scott johnson has been on the story from day one, he's an attorney in minnesota and blogs on power line and we are happy to have him join us tonight. thanks a lot for comingha on. explain this to us. you often read mention, not on "new york times" site, but of omar and her brother. what is his role in this story? >> that's a difficult question. i wanted to take just a step
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back. the person we are talking about is named ahmed. he may or may not be her brother. but since omar emerged as a public figure in august of 2016, i and david steinberg have been following a trail of evidence suggesting that omar entered into a sham marriage in 2009 and as i said, he may ort may not be her brother. now i asked her that in 2016 when she won the dfl primary here to enter the state legislature and what i got back from her was an nonresponsive accusation of bigotry. fast-forward three years to the last two weeks. two weeks ago, the minnesota finance board having investigated her 2016 campaign for over a year, issued findings
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including coincidentally that she filed joint tax returns in 2014 and 2015 with ahmed -- i'm sorry, with her husband number one whom she never really married, with the guy who was not her husband, while she was married to ahmed.rr i say, let that sink in. i have to concentrate when i'm telling you that. she filed a joint tax return, in 2014 and 2015 with a guy she was not married to her while she was married to another guy. the other guy may or may not be her brother. >> tucker: wait, just a second. may i stop you right here? >> sure. wh>> tucker: may or may not be her brother. whyot is it taken us three years looking into this, we still don't know whether or not this guy is her brother. has she never responded to that direct question before? >> she's been issued statements
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written for her by other people denying that he is her brother in segments discussing. she's refused to sit for an interview, refused to produce any papers to anyone, and most recently, "the "star tribune," this past sunday, which today syria story, not a perfect story, but a serious, 3,000 word story into this whole chain of events leading to the campaign finance board investigation and findings that are referred to in which she refused to sit for an interview. she refused to produce documents. she refused to say word one except a statement issued from herr congressional spokesman, choosing a closing saying that they engaged in anti-muslim bigotry which is farcical. they have treated her like a hometown hero. >> tucker: people show up here as refugees in the first thing they learn is how to accuse a
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country that welcomed them and of racism. who came >> thank you for all the work up with that system? that you have done. >> tucker: it's the new assimilation. exactly. adam silver who is the nba commissioner has just announced that from now on the league wilo no longer use the word "owner" to describe those who own nba franchises. those companies now can't be owned, they will be run by o governors since the concept of owning the team is supposedly disrespectful because the league has so many black players. huh. does that make sense? it doesn't matter. al sharpton is happy with it. >> i think it is understandable given the history of the country. and many of the nba players are descendants of people who were enslaved. when we hear the term "owner," it's a much different connotation then other people because some of us have done our ancestral research and found out our great grand parents and grandparents did have owners.
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>> tucker: no word on how much money sharpton is getting from the nba. i'm willing to bet money, it's quite a vet. lawrence jones is the editor in chief of campus or farmed out, and he joins us tonight. thanks a lot for coming on. so nba players, some of the richest people in america, now are finding out they are actually oppressed by the term "owner." do you think not using the term "owner" will make this a much better country? >> no, it's not going to make it a better country. i think most reasonable people will understand that people who put in the leg work, buy shares in companies, become the owner of thesed companies. we are talent like nba players and we have ownership of fox news. that's part of what comes when you work for another company. i like the quote from tylerr perry, he says, "own your own business, own your own way." these players had businesses
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that they call themselves, because they put all the money in. this goes to the other national conversation. a lot of these players want black owners and there should be, but you got to put in the work. i think there's a lot of rich black folk that are willing to buy these teams. i want to be an owner of an nba s.team one day, and i think that is where the conversation needs to go. not this stupid conversation to suggest that just because you own a brand, which is what they are saying, they own the copyright of the logos, the franchise, and they pay players to go out there because of their talent and ability. these players exercise great judgment by hiring ages to negotiate hefty contracts, as they should. this is not a play term, this is term.c business >> tucker: well, of course, they own a company with employees. that's not the same as slavery in which people aren't paid and
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doing things there owed. and that is why it's immoral, it's the opposite of course, they are being paid for their work. so why would the nba owners beng brave enough to stand up to this nonsense and think, knock it off, this is the company and i own the company? >> again, that shows you the amount of influence that players have. let's go back historically. can you imagine having that ability to go to tell masters on the plantation that they couldn't do that? that's how ridiculous the analogy to slavery that it is. these players, they have a lot of influence. they have million-dollar contracts. >> tucker: apparent they do! [laughs] >> and the argument is for black ownership, they are all for it. that's not the argument here. this is political correctness gone wild. >> tucker: that's not the argument, that's totally nuts. thank you for that. >> thanks, brother.
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>> tucker: that's it for us tonight from beautiful tokyo and the "two rooms" bar and grill. we are traveling to kyoto tomorrow so we will join you from there. t we'll back tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. happy wednesday morning from tokyo. sean hannity right now. >> sean: happy wednesday morning. i love this, tucker in japan. hope you're having a great time. great coverage, thank you for being with us, welcome to "hannity" tonight. breaking tonight, it appears one of the world's most powerful companies is clearly hell-bent on stopping donald trump from winning in 2020, or anyone like him from ever winning in the future. it's all on tape. we have a full report coming up later, right here exclusively on this show. you do not want to miss this tape.o first, we do have breaking news on multiple fronts in our quest for equal justice, and of course, to hold those who abusea power, involved in incredible corruption, accountable. as we tu
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