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triumphs have been based on on republica relationships the president said clearly not too many eggs in this basket built hopefully that a meeting like this could bear fruit. >> the important thing that the president said i think is teams. working-level delegations talking to each other. then there are details. if we can do that, there is hope this will work forward. if we can't. if the north koreans only talk with president trump. then it won't. i think the team work discussion a really good sign. jon: he invested a fair amount
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of capital trying to make things happen vis-a-vis north korea. he could get sucked into the trap of taking kim jong-un's phone calls every other day. >> one of the things' relevant to this is iran. iran is expected to give the north koreans somewhere between $2.5 to $3 billion a year. weapons technology and other things. >> [speaking korean]
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>> [through the interpreter] the initial plan had been for president trump and i to visit but thanks to president trump's proposal the meeting has taken place. i want to pay tribute to the creative and bold approach
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president trump has demonstrated. in the process of achieving complete denuclearization and peace, this presented great hope for the korean people and people of the world. i believe this is significant progress. and the united states and north korea have agreed to set up teams and begin working on negotiations in the near future. that constitutes success. i'm looking forward to great accomplishment in this process and i want to thank president trump. president trump: when we put out that notice, knowing the press like i do, had he decided not to come, you would have hit me hard. so we are thanking him for doing it on up quick notice, less than 24 hours, i guess.
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we moved mountain. i want to thank secret service, the military in particular. setting something up like this very quickly is very hard. i can only say the meeting was a very good one. very strong, very solid. great relationship. we'll see what can happen. but again,r, we want to get it right. we are not look for speed. we want to get it right. there has been no nuclear test, no ballistic missiles. there has been a lot of goodwill. there continuing to be. i think after today probably better than it was even before. so i want to thank all of the media. i'm going over to a great military base and peak to our troops. i have been doing this for about three weeks straight in one for or another, having to to with one thing or another. and i look forward to being on
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air force one. i am going to be heading home and i'm looking forward to it. but first i'm going to say a few word to our troops. >> can you walk us through what the chairman said to you? and what it felt like to you. >> we met at the line. in meeting at the line, i said would you like me to come across? and he said i would be so honored. i guess from what i understand, this is the first time something like that, mr. admiral, first time that something like that happened. but i asked him, would you like mow to come across the line. he said i would be honored. i didn't know what he was going to say. but it was my honor to do it. >> did you extend an invitation for him to come to the united states? president trump: i did. if it all work out, at some
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point it will happen. this was a pretty big move today i imagine, based on water one * has been telling me. but it was my honor. we were going to have a long chat, it ended up being i guess an hour. this was a very positive day, a very positive event. i think it's good, really, for the world. what happened today is great for south korea, it's great for north korea. i think it's great for the world. when we started this you had missiles flying over japan. they weren't so happy. you would have the siren going and a lot of problems. you all remember the case of hawaii. you remember that situation. you remember guam. you remember what was happening there. the world was a very tense place. i became president and we weren't through a rough dialogue
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for a while. you corresponded it very well. then all of a sudden we came together. so let's see how it happens. steve is going to do a fab as particular job, he'll be representing us in the talks and we'll be dealing with south korea and president moon and his people. but pretty much the initial talks will be between the united states and north korea. and president moon will be right there. >> what was his response to your unhavinvitation? president trump: we were contacted almost immediately. i asked him outside. i said at the right time you are going to come over. we are going to go over there. we have a way to go. we'll see. i would certainly extend the invite. but i mentioned in front of the press, i said, any time he wants to do it. but i think we want to take this
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down to the next step. let's see what happens. a very, very positive meeting. very positive on trade with president xi of china. that was a great meeting we had. we'll see what happens. but it was a great meeting. no hurry. all these people hurry with deals and they tush out to be disasters. >> why do you need to set up a team -- president trump: we have a team. he's putting somebody in charge who we know and we like. >> are the people still alive who were his negotiators? president trump: i can tell you the main person is. we know that. i hope the rest are, too. the person we know they said wasn't, and i know for a fact he
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is. >> did the chairman prop is he wouldn't do any more missile tests? president trump: very small ones, we don't consider that a missile test. it wasn't a test. but we are talking about ballistic missiles, long range ballistic missiles. he hasn't come close to testing. and there were no nuclear tests. if you remember the end of the obama administration and the early part of my administration there was tremendous nuclear testing. you remember the big earthquake, they thought it was an quake. it was a massive 9 point something wake and it turned out to be a nuclear test. i think we are in a very good path. this was a terrific day. now let's say hello to our great troops. are you guy going or there? thank you very much. i will see you there.
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they are staying on. i'm looking forward to taking them off. i don't like sanctions being on his country. but the sanctions remain, yes. at some point during the negotiation things can happen. and that's what we'll be talking about, sanctions. thank you very much. jon: perhaps the understatement of this event. the president said this was a pretty big move today. the fact that an american president for the first time stepped foot on north korean soil. let's get the take on that from white house chief correspondent john roberts. the possibility that one rsh could be coming to the united states. reporter: well, i think he said yes he could come to the united states. but after egg he said, i think we are a long way away from that.
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in that hour-long meeting there was supposed to be a 5 to 7 minute meet and greet handshake. the president said two side have agreed their work level teams will get back together again to try to lay the framework for talks toward denuclearization. standing behind the president with mike pompeo and steve beegan. he was the point person on north korea. he'll lead the american team has he has in the past as they try to put together again a roadmap, a framework for talks about denuclearization. it's not to say this will bear any fruit, perhaps it will, perhaps it won't. we thought it would in the past and everything fell apart in hanoi. but the -- the president seemed to suggest hanoi was a bit of a
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suggest. maybe it was from the standpoint that he let kim jong-un know in very clear terms what it is kim jong-un has to do if he wants to get out from underneath the crushing grip of those american sanctions. but the fact that the two side will at a working level start talking again i think is very, very important. i thought the president was funny he said he thanked kim jong-un for showing up. because if he invited him to show and he didn't show, the president would have gotten hammered for it. but nobody thought kim jong-un was not going to show up. the fact you had him inside the house of freedom with two chairs set up with seven flags neatly put there was an indication that at least parts of this were precooked. i was told the tweet wasn't precooked. but they managed to get it together pretty quickly. the fact that the two leaders sat down and met looked like the
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had been prearranged. the president walked up to that concrete slab, greeted kim jong-un and said would you like me to step across. kim jong-un said, it would be my honor. and president trump became the first sitting american president to ever walk on north korean soil. the president could have come out of this with nothing except criticism with kim jong-un giving him the victory as the american president going on to north korea soil. but the president comes away with this idea that the two side are going to get together again and start talking. i think in the near term this is a victory for president trump as well, and he did get something tangible out of this meeting. that hopefully will come later.
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jon: in the past we know north korea has made agreements with the united states and then broken them. reporter: every time. every time. jon: john roberts our chief white house correspondent in south korea. judith miller is with us, a fox news contributor. the president is not necessarily given to understatement very often. but he says this was a pretty big deal today. your take? >> it was atypical in a number of way. what was not atypical was the round of self-congratulatory comments the president made. but he was careful to low ball the meeting. he said this will take time, we
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can't rush it. he was suggesting there isn't going to be immediate grand progress or any kind of breakthrough. but i think the headline tomorrow apart from the stepping across the line itself and into north korea by an american president is the diplomatic process is unfrozen yet again. that we'll now begin the hard work of teams. beegan for the americans and i'm not sure who for the north koreans. and they will start to talk turkey, nuclear disarmament. if it does, this will be a significant event and we'll be able to say yes, it was a step forward for the president and for american diplomacy. that's a big deal. jon: let's go back to john
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jordan, economist, attorney and former intelligence officer. from an intelligence standpoint, what are the pitfalls here? i am not able to hear john jordan or perhaps's not able to hear me. it's been quite a whirlwind. the president only yesterday sent out a tweet suggesting that while's in the neighborhood. while's in south korea meeting with president moon jae-in he might like to drop by the demilitarized zone and perhaps shake hands with chairman kim. kim jong-un. kim jong-un got back to him right away and said i will take you up on that offer. and this is that moment when the two shook hands and the
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president then stepped across the line of demarcation into north korea. becoming the first sitting american president to do so. you have been watching history as we covered it here live on fox news channel. the president is heading off now to speak to some of the troops. there are more than 20,000. somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 u.s. troops on assignment in south korea, and that has always been a grave concern to their families and the pentagon. obviously they are within range of the artillery and rocket fire that north korea could rain down to say nothing of their nuclear arsenal which is certainly quite capable of destruction. but it is the hundreds of thousands of artillery and rocket launchers that could rain down fire on american troops and on seoul.
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it has long been a concern for military planners. joel rubin is the former deputy assistant secretary of state under president obama. and he has been good enough to stay with us through our coverage throughout. from the standpoint of someone who has served in the state department, what do you think about what the president has just accomplished here? >> john: it's a booster shot to diplomacy to have the leader of the country step in when there is no diplomacy and restart the engine. so from the state department perspective, this is a positive night. big time. and it is clear that the president is looking at his team at state, secretary pompeo, steve beigan, the special representative saying you now have the baton. the fact that he came out and
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spoke about the teams getting together is a very important signal. that has to be clear to kim. there is no just leader to leader discussion that will work for the united states. there has to be a team by team rsh discussion and it has to be detailed. he mentioned sanctions. he said that all will be on the table. that's a good sign. sanctions, all the issues need to be in the discussion basket. this is a strong place for the state department to roll up its sleeves and get to work. jon: i want to play for our viewers what the president had to say after he stepped into north korea. here is that moment. >> i just want to say that this is my honor. i didn't really expect it. we were in japan for the g20.
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i said i'm over here, i want to call chairman kim. we got to meet. stepping across that line was a great honor. a lot of progress has been made. a lot of friendships have been made. i want to thank you. that was very quick notice and i want to thank you. [speaking korean] president trump: we are going to talk for a little while about different thing. a lot of positive things are happening. tremendous positive. ity. a lot of great things are
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happening. we met' and liked each other from day one. and that was very important. [speaking korean] president trump: thank you, everybody. thank you. jon: the old saying, men should not witness how laws or sausages are made. we were watching diplomacy being made here and it was interesting. >> it's a fascinating process it's a people-driven experience. it's not something designed by robots. human interaction is the secret sauce for effective diplomacy.
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the more there is good chemistry the better. you have to have the process under way. we have professional diplomats trained for this moment. but if the chemistry is no good, everything falls apart. jon: we have gone from little rocketman to we respect each other. >> it's quite a turnaround. i'm not sure how that came about. if kim got scared or president trump thought he was too scary. but who knows. here we are. the united states renegotiated with the soviet union when we were aiming 50,000 nuclear warheads at each other. we were able to get arms control agreements done. they are critical. arms control has been framed lately. so it's important to get down to
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brass tacks and roll it back. jon: i believe it was presidents president obama who said the north korean problem was one that kept him awake at night. >> he did. and he named it as the number one threat when president trump transitioned into office. it'sed a wildcard with nukes. unpredictable behavior, human rights violator, threatening its neighbors. and little insight into the regime from our expert intelligence community as compared to iran where we have a lot of insight into it. cracking that open which is what's happening right now is not easy. but it's changing the dynamic little by little. that's cite calculation to getting a legitimate process going.
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what will have to take place here is something a little more solid and more conclusive for there to be real con if i dibts' legitimate. >> you express the personal relationships are very, very important here. if chairman kim feels like he has the assurance of the president of the united states, that regime change is not in the cards here, that could accomplish something. >> it certainly will help. we have seen personalities engage north korea in the past and seen bill richardson engage in resteving mayor cans held captive there. but when you are talking about regime change in this discussion, that gets to the process of the real deal, what's the trade-off? jon: got to stop. thanks.
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jon: the last couple hours you have seen history made on live television. that's kim jong-un coming forward to meet president trump at the line of demarcation that marks the divider between north and south korea. chairman kim apparently said would you like to cross over, and president trump said i would be honored. that's what he is about to do, accompany chairman kim in stepping across that line and
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becoming in the process the first american president to do so. the two seemed to have a warm relationship which have much in contrast to the terms that president trump used for chairman kim back in the early months of his administration when he was referring to him as little rocketman. but all of that is have much in the past. the two seem to have a couple of warm hand shakes and a good relationship. joining us, the overseer at the stanford hoover institute. i'm sure the intelligence community is going to go into overdrive now. we'll find out if there is real fruit that will come from this meeting.
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>> absolutely. but it's important not to lose sight of the fact that it' the economics that are driving this. the sanctions on the north korean regime are crippling. optics are important and it's getting a lot of play, i get that. it's historical. but we need to realize this is economically driven and it has to do with north korean internal politics. if kim jong-un can't deliver economic relief and sanctions relief the optics will be for nothing. jon: up until now chairman kim and his taughtered before them and his grand father before them -- the grandfather before them haven't seemed to care about the condition of their own economy. if their people suffered, it was
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okay as long as the regime was able to buy whiskey and cigars. the sanctions they have in place now have bite to them we haven't seen before. >> they have bite without precedence. between 1995 and 2008, the united states supplied $1.23 billion worth of aid evenly divide between energy and food to the north korean regime. sanctions were not in place to restrict the ruling caste of north korea. now, you see a different die major. kim jong-un is a young ruler. he has to deliver for his people and for the people who control the guns and bureaucracy in
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north korea. jon: what are the dangers some of those generals feel he may be taking a step too far? these are people who have been steeped in hatred of the united states. if they suddenly see a handshake with the president of the united states and steps taken towards denuclearization, does that become a threat? >> absolutely. but this would be the third time they have seen a handshake with president trump. at the end of the day, chairman kim has to deliver sanctions relief. all the optics in the world doesn't matter. he's going to have to deliver sanctions relief if he's going to survive. the optics are merely a bandage on a significant wound. if he doesn't deliver, he's in political risk. jon: so it's a ching or egg
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situation. he's going to be wanting or demanding sanctions relief. and president trump is going to say what? denuclearize? get rid of your icbms? what would be a good or valuable first step from the american point of view? >> that's a great question. keep in find, a lot of great powers, south korea, the united states and china. none of these countries want a north korean collapse. it's a tragedy of humanitarian proportions and for china, too. 25 million uni'd kateed people d uneducated people pouring over the chinese border eshed. that's something nobody wants. every is invested in success with regard to the north korean
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regime. they want to be prosperous in a way. thal tes -- thal tesh tough doesn't -- the alternative doesn't bear contemplation. juror * there is concern it would follow the path of east and west germany and you are suggesting it would be more difficult than that. >> absolutely. before the collapse of the berlin wall, western estimates of the cost of absorption of east germany into west germany were grossly underestimated. and that was actually fiscally a disaster for west ter d west
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germany. it's everyone's influence but nobody wants to own. jon: they don't have much of an economic base from which to start generating hard currency. their primary means of raising cash is essentially farming out slave labor, isn't it? >> basically's cheap labor. president trump will talk about elegant beachfront property and beaches ripe for development. and there is truth to that. but it's not nearly enough to prop up the north korean economy. people have been indoctrinated in a way where there is no real
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natural resources. this is something everyone wants to succeed enough so it doesn't fail and they don't own it. jon: john jordan, thank you for your insights. we'll hear more from the president. he had some interesting things to say about his meeting with chairman kim. we'll have those for you after the break. ♪it's been a long time coming, coming
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jon: a fox news alert. it's something most of americans, myself included, an american president shaking hands with the leader of north korea, then walking into that country. it's the first time it has ever happened since the war that divide north from south korea in 1953. kim jong-un invited the president to step into north
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korea. and the president took a step across the military line of demarcation and made history. the two of them had quite a long meeting inside freedom house in the demilitarized zone after this meeting you see on camera. the president emerged after saying good-bye to chairman kim and had quite a bit to say to the press. president trump: we had a very, very good meeting with chairman kim. we agreed we would each designate a team. and the team would work out some details. speed is not the object. we want to see if we can do a comprehensive good deal. nobody knows how things turn out. but this was a legendary and historic day. it was quick notice, nobody saw
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this coming. it's great that he was able to react so quickly. we were all able to react so quickly. speaking to president moon saying just the meeting is historic. it will be even more historic if something comes out of it. you see what's going on. you see what's happening and you see the level of relationship as oh mowed to the way it was when i came into office. when i came into office it was a fiery mess. bad things were going on. the end of the other administration, the last administration was nothing but trouble. you saw what was happening. you don't report it accurately, but that's okay, some day history will. for 2 1/2 years we have had peace. for 2 1/2 years, with nothing signed. it was based on a relationship. president moon was saying very
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strongly, he would have never believed a thing could go on like this so friendly and peacefully for so long. so we agreed to have teams set up. we'll have the youth, we'll have a team, the secretary of state pompeo will pick it. we already know the gentleman. and you all know steve. he's a pro. a good man. and he likes both countries haven't. so steve will head it up under the you -- under the you a i de auspices of the secretary of state mike mom pompeo. it's pretty complicated. but not as complicated as people may think. it's been different. you saw when they were showing
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us around. when they were showing president moon and myself around. they were talking 2 1/, 3 years ago it was really dangerous out there. you couldn't move. people were being killed. but they said since singapore it's been a whole different ballgame. i was telling chairman kim that to me hanoi was a great success. the press reported it the opposite. you sometimes need things like that to happen. it was a great success because we maintained our relationship. we'll have teams that will meet the next few weeks. they will start a process and we'll see what happens. and i want to thank chairman kim, frankly, when i put out that notice. knowing the press like i do, had he decided not to come, you would have hit me hard.
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less than 24 hours, we moved mountains. i want to thank secret service and all the people who worked so hard. setting something like this up so quickly is very hard. it's very hard. i can only say the meeting was a good one. very strong, very solid. great relationship. we'll see what can happen. but again we don't want -- we are not looking for speed. we are looking to get it right. there have been no nuclear tests or ballistic missiles. there has been a lot of goodwill. it continues to be. i think after today better than it was even before. so i want to thank all of the media. i'm going to go over 0 a great military base and speak to our troops. i have been doing this for three weeks straight in one form or another having to do with one thing or another.
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and i look forward to being on air force one. we'll be heading home and a lot of you are coming us. but i look forward to it. but first i will say a few word to our troops. >> when you were at the line at the border, can you walk us through, what the chairman said to you? president trump: yes, we went and met at the line. in meeting at the line, i said would you like me to come across? and i said i would be so honored. i guess from what i understand, it's the first time something like that happened. but i asked him, would you like me to come across the line, he said i would be honored to do that. i didn't know what he was going to say. but it was my honor to do it. we had a very good meeting. >> did you extend an invitation for him to come to the united
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states? president trump: i did. at some point fit all work out it will happen. but this was a pretty big move today based on what everyone is telling me. but it was my honor. we had a pretty long chat. we were going to have a chat for five minutes, and it ended up being pretty long, perhaps an hour. this was a very positive event, and it's good for the world. what happened today, i think is great for south korea, i think it's great for moree north core re -- for north korea. it's great for the world. when i started this, they had missiles flying over japan. i think you all remember the case of hawaii. you remember that whole situation. you remember guam. you remember what was happening there. the world was a very tense place. i became president, and be we
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went through a rough dialogue for a while. you covered it very well. but we went through a very rough time. and all of a should be we came together. steve is going to do a fantastic job. he'll be representing us in the talks. and we'll be dealing with south korea, we'll be dealing with president moon and his people. but pretty much the initial talks will be between the united states and north korea. and president moon will be right there. >> what was chairman kim response to your invitation. president trump: we were contacted immediately. i asked hip outside. you want to come over. i would certainly extend the invite. but i mentioned out there in front of the press, i said any
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time he want to do it. but i think we want to take this down to the next step. and see what happens. a very positive meeting. we had a very positive meeting on trade with president xu of china. again, all these people, are in a hurry with these deal and they tush out to be a disaster. >> [inaudible] president trump: we have a team and i's putting somebody in charge we know and who we like. >> are the people still alive -- president trump: i can tell you the main person is. i know that. because we know that. i would hope the rest are, too. i would hope the rest are, too. i can tell you the person we
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dealt with they said wasn't and i know for a fact he is. >> did the chairman promise he wouldn't do any more missile tests? because he has. president trump: very small ones. we don't consider that a missile test. we are talk about long range ballistic missiles. not testing them. hasn't come close to testing them. and there were no nuclear tests. at the end of the obama administration there was tremendous nuclear testing. remember the big earthquake. it was a massive point something earth wake. i think we are at a good path. let's say hello to our great troops. you guy going over there?
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i will see you over there. thank you very much. i am look forward to taking them off. i don't like sanctions being on his country. but the sanctions remain, yes. at some point during the negotiation things can happen. jon: that's president trump summing up what took place during that meeting with kim jong-un after this historic moment when the american president walked across the line of demarcation into north korea and became the first sitting american president to do so. seemed to be warm relations between the two men as they made that quick trip into the north and kim jong-un walked into south korea. these are live picture from the osan air base prime minister be speaking to the assembled troops who doubtless will be greatly
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relieved the president is making some progress when it comes to north korea. we have more than 20,000 u.s. troops stationed there and they are have much in the cross-hairs of north korean artillery and rocket fire. they are obviously freedom's vanguard in that part of the world and they will clearly want to hear what the president wants to say. joining us from south korea, the capital of seoul. john roberts. where do we go from here? >> that's a good question. before i get into that, because you were talking about it there. just to give folks at home an idea of the threat that this area of the world is under. there are roughly 13,000 artillery pieces stationed on the north side of the border 30 miles from here.
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they are all tucked in behind the mountains that border north korea and south korea. and the rand corporation did a study and found one good artillery barrage from 13,000 artillery pieces would kill 250,000 people in seoul. that's the threat this area has been living under. now kim jong-un is pursuing nuclear weapons as well. which is why there was such a sense of urgency to rein in his nuclear program and dismantle it. president trump said it has to be irreversible, verifiable and complete. we thought after singapore that we had a pretty good roadmap for denuclearization. president trump came out of the meeting with kim and said he has agreed to give up his nuclear
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program. but kim did everything but that. while he didn't explode any more nuclear weapons, certainly the nuclear weapon program continued. after the hanoi, there was the distance between the united states and korea. we wondered where this was going to go. president trump dismissed the idea saying it's not ballistic missile stuff. north korea gave the president a promise and wasn't willing to act on it. when he came back from hanoi he said we'll dismantle the yongbyon nuclear facility. and then the test site, the montana you were talking about with gordon chang. but kim thought giving up
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yongbyon was a big plum and he thought it would get him out from under the sanctions. the president said we want your chemical weapons and biological weapons and nuclear program. kim wasn't willing to do that. it's going to be interesting to see how much further we can go. having moon jae-in in there can help. but he's fundamentally against giving up hire his nuclear program. he has this idea that for his regime to survive, he has to have a nuclear program. i'm not sure how president trump convinces him to give it up. how you treat economic
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prosperity. but the very fact that talks will continue among the working groups is a positive step. jon: we are getting the wrap. (danny) every day you're nearly fried to a crisp, professionally! (vo) you earned it, we're here to make sure you get it. quickbooks. backing you.
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