>> buzzfeed this sunday, president trump dominating the news, diplomacy overnight. [inaudible] >> this was a special moment. >> trump meeting kim jong un in the dmz and becoming the first sitting president to set foot on north korean soil, but how skeptical to produce any nuclear progress. media hail kamala harris, dominant story, really the only story of the first democratic debate. >> she would bus to school every day and that little girl was me.

>> i thought she nailed, tone was perfect, personal story, knocked it out of the park. >> kamala harris last night and her aggression and passion command of the stage, i think folks will be thinking about whether or not joe biden is electable. >> i thought kamala harris, she practiced that cons cyst ently for 10 days, and surprised that joe biden had not practiced. he looked like a punch fighter waiting for bell to ring and say i'm out of team. >> crystal clear that kamala harris commanded the stage, this was her debate. this was kamala harris' moment. >> that was a sad moment. >> i think elizabeth warren had a strong night. spotlight was very much on her and we may be seeing the end of beto o'rourke candidacy. >> looked like --

>> did nbc moderator challenged members of a party that has clearly lurched to the left. spark national uproar as congress rushes to put billions in funding, is prez covering as human tragedy or indictment. cheryl joins our discussion, star of u.s. women's soccer team blows off national anthem and now insulting president trump, the media debate over megan repino, i'm howard kurtz and this is media buzz. ♪ ♪ >> media fixated on one

exchange. >> to hear you talk about the reputation of two united states senator who is built their reputations and career of segregation of race in this country and it was not only that but also worked with them to oppose busing. >> my position across the board. i did not trace racist, that's not true, number 2, if we want to have campaign litigated on who supports civil rights and whether i did or that the, i'm happy to do that. >> join to go analyze the culture emily, sarah fisher, media reporter or axios and fox news contributor and now run georgetown's university politics. let's put front page, huge picture of kamala harris, hope to zoom in, journalists on the left and right agree, strong

moment for kamala, weak moment for biden, many of them wait to go pounce on joe biden for misstep and to talk someone like kamala harris who is more liberal and not a white male. >> this provided an opportunity for that, i agree with you there's eagerness to take that approach and rooted in misunderstanding of the democratic base which is over 50% over the analysis of 50, 50% self-identified moderate or conservative, so i absolutely agree, that was fantastic moment for kamala harris, bad moment for joe biden. >> sure. >> devastated joe biden, this is the end of joe biden, this was catastrophic for joe biden, i think is wrong and i actually think it speaks to an issue with the media's perception of the democratic base. >> when biden tried to defend himself, years ago, millions of people who were not racist who hated having their kids bussed from far away schools and that

included black schools, sent to schools that were not friendly towards them. seems to me the media doesn't really care about 1970's. >> one i do think there's very little tolerance these days for evolution of positions, evolution of culture, right, we lose sight of nuance and historical context too often, look, i don't necessarily think the media was looking for an opportunity to biden down. i think the media was trying to see if anybody was trying to knock biden down a peg. the numbers have held. there have been very little that's happened in the race to shake up the dynamics of the race. first night of the debate -- i thought biden was the winner

because no one touched him. lauren had really good night, remarkably good night but no one touched him. the way harris went after him on night 2 was maybe the first -- the first moment of this entire campaign that could, not exactly but could change dynamics. >> this is why i think it's affected by many predicted that biden would look weak and confused in the entire debate and in my view if you take those moments out he had a pretty forceful performance, got emotional and death of family members when talking about health care. >> i think the press looks at biden as symbolism for more moderate democrats in general, view him in upside pressure. >> first day. >> the coverage is so grate, the other thing about this all the press is saying that biden is not talking about the press, he was doing a ton of cable news

afterwards, they like to put biden in stark place. >> i do think he could talk to the press more around playing conscious. we know from the picture she posted herself on twitter as the young girl in california who was bussed, we see it, here is "the new york times", should the democrats nominate white moderate who carries baggage or someone energizing nonwhite voters candidate like harris, father is black and mother of indian decent? >> yeah, i think so, but more really it's a tilt against biden, what we were discussing that joe biden has attracted a lot of negative press i think undue negative suppress especially share and polling, out of touch with the democratic base u he's earned since candidacy began. i think to your earlier question they saw an opening and seized

on it. >> politico headline, harris takedown sparks speculation of biden's black support. too early to say. are some in the press starting to write biden on -- >> yeah. [laughter] >> when i was a campaign communication's director, one of my biggest frustrations, this isn't a new phenomena. the media tends to often live in the moment as opposed to realizing, this is the first of 12 debates and they'll be many other moments on the debate stage in iowa in new hampshire, on the campaign trail, i'm -- you know, it was a bad night for bind, it really was and has a chance to rebound, what does he do a month from now on debate stage in detroit is far more telling to me than what happened the other night. >> let's turn to nbc, first night, audio problems knocked off for 10 minutes, president

trump tweeting, well the show nbc, fake news organization, couldn't resist, let me play for you some sound from the second debate because the lead moderators savannah gutffrey and rachel maddow. >> we shouldn't demonize the rich, nobody has to be punished, what did you mean by that? >> what is a response that nominating a socialist would reelect donald trump? >> no u.s. president has been prosecuted for crimes after leaving office, do you believe that president trump could or should be the first? >> well, rachel maddow went last, she wanted to talk about mueller investigation that has dominated her show for two years. >> she's an opinion host, she's not used to doing down the middle coverage. >> why is that okay whereas other networks, not mentioning any names might have been

criticized for having opinion host who wasn't very liberal? >> i'm not saying that it is okay, they were definitely doing to join the hyperliberal audience. nbc had a stronger night the second night than the first. >> i thought it was critical. they asked bland questions, they didn't follow up, i thought on the second night with biden, pete buttigieg, kamala, they were much more aggressive. >> you saw chuck todd with amy klobuchar, what will you do when taking away guns. when you had elizabeth warren going off against the big oil and big banks and big tech, no follow up about what are you going to do about the policies, i think the second night was much stronger, if they had had the second night to first, nbc was pander to go progressive it is whole light. >> my next question, which is i think the larger story here, one

debate exchange, one or two debates in campaign, b is that mainstream reporters, i have to give credit here, new york times today are acknowledging that free college to medicare for all, second debate all 10 candidates raising their hands, provide health services to undocumented immigrants which i think many would have said 4 years ago, this party has left sharply to the left in 2016 and that's a larger story here. >> yeah, that's something that primary cycles were put on display especially when conservatives are running in post tea party and talked about how far right the party moved, this is a far-left, clear display over both nights, savannah guttfrey did not let bernie sanders off the hook, she got him to admit that the plan would indeed raise taxes on the middle class, if the press can push that and really interrogate candidates that's a big moment

for the democratic party. >> kamala harris tried to walk certain details, basically she signed onto bernie's medicare for all and in favor of doing away with private insurance. elizabeth warren same thing, moderators didn't follow up. isn't this the kind of thing maybe the press isn't focused on now but -- >> kamala harris has had to answer this question repeatedly, multiple media on this issue and she's caught flak from the media. the challenge with the debate structure especially this, my hats off to the dnc for *turing in a way that tried to create some control, you know, organize some chaos, you can't really dive too deep into any questions when you got 10 people on stage

and give balance time. >> hard to follow up. want to get to last sound bite emily, excuse me, sarah, chris matthews was doing post game interviews basically, take a look at some of those. >> i think you got into a fight. stay in it. >> i think you won tonight. i thought that you had a consistent even relentless message of populism, pure american populism. >> is biden finished after tonight? >> no, i don't think so. no. >> pretty friendly what you say? >> cozing up to top runners. >> that was over the top. >> seemed to be endorsing a couple of them. >> chris christie took a real whack at one of the moderators, here he is on colbert. >> please, god, can we say good-bye to chuck todd.

>> wow. >> i mean, the most -- the most pretentious know it all on network news, the guy is just a complete ass. does not like chuck todd, he was actually the most aggressive questioner, he knows how the frame questions aggressively which is what we do in cable, when we come back, president trump seizing control, the media with last-minute meeting in dmz, the president was too cautious reporting on 25-year-old sexual assault allegation against the president, is that true.

between north and south and took steps into the north. >> we went and met at the line and meeting at the line i said would you like me to come across and he said i would be so honored. >> the president took a swipe at the press for coverage of fiery mess before he took office. >> you don't report accurately, that's okay, some day history will report accurately. >> meted for an hour and agreed to get stalled nuclear talks. made dmz last night, she's a heck of a showman. >> right, reflected in coverage. it was acknowledged as made for tv moment and i didn't see objectionable in news coverage, the the chorus of pundits were

negative. i think the balance is way off, a lot of room for acknowledging the historical nature, so, again, i think pundits is drags the coverage and balanced direction. >> many of them are still waking up. they didn't know till we got up. washington post willed story, trump scores biggest live show yet in north korea, i sense grudging admiration for skills. >> favorite photo-op, he likes to look big for shorter kim jong un. >> not from that angle. >> twitter and facebook, comments were referring to otto warmbier, historical moment and questions where is otto

warmbier. >> yet media says it was glorified photo-op. no progress since the unsuccessful second summit in hanoi. >> the coverage actually particularly the establishment has pointed that out, this is historic and made for tv moment, establishing sort of what he likes through the lens to have camera but has the president overstated some of the progress so far considering that north korea has not stopped its nuclear build-up, it has not stopped testing ballistic missiles that, you know, while he today touted that they were returning hostages, there was the otto warmbier situation. the pentagon itself said we stoled talks on hostage release, there's been fact-checking that's going on with the media while still acknowledging the

historic nature of the event. terror that question, sit possible that the press has understated the valedictorians of what president trump has done, possibly overstate the progress and press understated the potential of value. >> if progress starts being made, this could be turning point, another handshake in front of the cameras in historic place obviously, very little progress in north korea, i said to my staff a couple of weeks ago, the president will do something to regain, to come near and dear to news cycle, dominated by the two nights of democratic debates and by the news that robert mueller is going to testify for a couple of house committees on july 17th, there was a huge build-up over that and it's going to be a massive tv spectacle, of course, but what surprised me about all the media is mueller made very clear, he said in one appearance he will not go beyond what's actually in his report, he will

try to be dull and bureaucratic as former fbi director, liberals have a sense that if you read through report that would be a game changer because most people haven't read the report. >> having robert mueller sitting there on camera answering questions even if he answers them the way he has answered them a million times before, it is an image that the american people have not seen or internalized yet and that's powerful just as the president standing up there shaking hands with north korea. >> when he came to press release, press conference first time that we heard from him, we did see media bounce of that, we could see that again. >> could turn out to be disappoint with all the press build-up, thanks very much for coming by this sunday ahead the white house has new press secretary, how will stephanie

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had been chief of staff and served as director but with the family's correspondent. >> how does she balance her platform against some of the things that the president does? >> i think that honestly one thing really doesn't have to do with the other and she's focused on helping children. >> contributor kate anderson melania doesn't understand the role of first lady grisham wrote a piece. >> what was your problem with cnn contributor's review of first lady? >> well, first of all she just got her facts wrong, i thought it was important to set facts straight. >> no indication that the daily press briefings were returned, trump prefers talking to

reporters himself almost every day, stephanie grisham will not be as high profile than her predecessor, she does not back down from a fight, next on media buzz, joking about russian hacking and fake news and things getting pretty nasty with president and star of u.s. women's soccer team. so cute! navy federal credit union. our members, are the mission.

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>> are pundits overreacting to light moment, joining us cheryl, sinclair television station, joking with putin which is well documented and about fake news and getting rid of journalists with authoritarian that murders journalists. >> criticism is mo, isn't it, as your clip pointed out, are you going to tell putin not to med until 2020 election, sort of question for which there's no right answer, we ask him all of the time news worthy response and it did but either could have ignored it or said no and what he did choose to make light of it. >> he was asked and deflected and joking. escalating rhetoric on both sides, treason, virtual treason

in connection with cyber warfare, in your view has mainstream media coverage of this president not just negative but has been hostile? >> it does. we as journalists regardless of how the subject of our reporting treats us have obligation to maintain normal neutrality and fairness and ethical standards and what's been different about the president and the way we've treated him is we have overtly suspended many ethical standards and practices because we have declared him to be uniquely dangerous and hostile to america, so, you know, we've excused ourself, i argue that it's more important than ever that you cover somebody you don't like or don't agree with to maintain ethical standards. >> i argued that as well, because the person doesn't like you, no justification for

suspending those standards as you put it so well, another issue that has bubbled back, start with this, executive editor of new york times, says paper was overly cautious covering sexual assault of president trump, paper interviewed carol, the allegation is, didn't featured the story on front page or homepage. >> i think most people think of rapists being sexy. >> short break. >> fantasies. >> why she didn't go public back when other women were making allegations against trump in 2016? >> did you consider speaking out then? >> no, because they were doing the job, they were coming forward, you know, army of women, they were coming forward so i sat back and i thought it was my fault and when -- if it was going to come forward i

would have to say i was stupid, i was a nit wit. >> so "the new york times" covered it, published the story, checked it out and has gotten to friends that she told to go on the record. >> who didn't want to be named. >> didn't want to be named initially, now have been named and after the criticism, so not just the times but other outlets are they sort of feeling the heat from the left over this? >> maybe the me too movement and so on but i don't think it's our job to respond to reaction to how we covered the story and covered it differently. i really don't want to second-guess the times' own assessment, they were overly cautious but as a journalists i don't think overly cautiouses and allegations are a bad thing. i looked back in clinton years, we at cbs news, we had many more

obligations and we delivered not because we didn't believe the women, there wasn't enough evidence that would justify based on evidence and standards making a story that could be so damaging out of the things they were saying. >> trump or others? >> this is about clinton. >> i do seem to remember that, i think overly cautious is not a bad thing when we are talking about the sorts of allegations. >> now, trump didn't help himself, well, she's not my type, a lot of people found this offensive. in this climate for journalists given how difficult for women to come forward, are they allowed, i have doubts about her story and she's saying odd things? >> we covered a story that i called shades of gray and looked at valid me too movement components of that but how that can be weponized in a way that's unfair to the people that are accused and we had an example a

man accused of rape allegations, the police were told he was guilty of rape and so on, in the end, he wasn't, he sued, the woman retracted but he had been destroyed. we as journalists should point out both sides and mindful that although we want to believe women and victims are to be believed we as journalists can't suspend ethical standards and practices and just because we like somebody or we feel sorry for them or we wish to believe them. >> you supported several times from the mexican border, we will talk about events in the next block, when you have been down there do you see a different picture than say the media narrative? >> yes, i will be down there in a couple weeks, what i hear that i'm there is far more reflective of what the polling shows nationally that vast majority of the american public is cogs pate -- compassionate and feeling but

also believe we should have a secure border and we have a problem, one of the most interesting stories was when i went to laredo, texas, hispanic mayor, mostly hispanic, hispanic law enforcement, they are tough and they explain why, criminal concern if they are not protective of the border in their community and they also rely on business south of the border with their friends in méxico, integral relationship to laredo, but it's textured in nuance in much more like what you hear from the general public than what you may see represented on the news. >> so classic example of when you actually report a story you may see things that are different. >> yes. >> than narrative which not to say there has been good reporting but i will talk in next block, i think there's been people who have very definite views, great to have you back on the program, great to see you. >> thanks a lot. >> thanks so much. after the break, a whole lot of

finger-pointing about terrible conditions for kids at the border and the chilling photo that maybe changing the media debate. oh! oh!

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250 infants, children and teens at the border patrol station. such stories prompted the trump administration to temporarily remove 250 migrant children. >> there's cruelty here imposed by the trump administration's policy of child separation taking kids away from their parents. >> media who denied there was a crisis all along just remember that they supposedly care about children and everybody else more than you do. >> congress rushed 4 and a half billion dollars with border funding with house democrats caving to the senate by dropping spending restrictions impose bid the president. to analyze the coverage gail trotter, kathy oru, hispanic magazine catalina and washington post magazine editor, gail reporting in facility in texas, dead on, the administration

quickly to get kids out of there at the same time do you believe many in the press have an agenda here? >> clearly they do because in january when president trump drew attention to the border crisis, the media reporting and the democratic politicians were all saying that trump had manufactured the crisis and if you look at the reporting from this week they're not acknowledging the basic issue that a country needs to secure its borders and they don't detail, except for washington post, one article by the washington post that talked about how there's a legal history of this going back to obama administration and the clinton administration with flores settlement in 1997 but most of the media are silent on the need for a border and they're silent on the fact that this is something that's been going on for at least 20 years. >> kathy, other outlets shine the spotlight on dangerous and unsanitary conditions and force white house to react, is that a positive agenda? >> well, it's the tail wagging

the dog, the media definitely got the dog going because pelosi and democrats rushed right away, they heard from latino leaders in the country and they heard also from constituents and others ho -- who said we need to do something about humanitarian crisis at the border that was created by trump, there's not saying there's a financial crisis in the country created by undocumented citizens, people, there's humanitarian issue at the border created by trump. it's a play on words, but the media has also been covering since the obama years, detention centers, photos taken there, they've been talked about in "the new york times", for example, has been covering this for years during obama years saying there was a crisis. this is not new. >> let me ask you first, gail, reporters right now are not allowed in the facilities, so everything is coming secondhand from lawyers visiting, the director of immigrant rights

clinic at colombia law school, human rights watch being interviewed on tv, media outlets relying on advocates? >> absolutely. journalists don't even realize that they're building case against the people that they are using as evidence to talk about these places, one of the lawyers that was interviewed in the new yorker piece talks about how it would be cheaper to send the children with their parents in u.s., cheaper for the u.s. taxpayer, what, that doesn't make sense on a financial basis and they don't push back about that at all in their own articles, when you look at own reporting these people that they are relying on for all the evidence about the conditions in these places are people who are partisans and they have an agenda on the issues and that's not good journalistic standard. >> journalists have no choice because they cannot get inside the facilities and talking to people that they have, should there be acknowledgment that

some of the people that they are able to visit the facilities have in fact, advocates on issue of illegal immigration? >> well, those who could speak spanish, latino reporters, spanish reporters talk to the people who lead the facilities and talk about conditions, heard about a father this week who said he was able to find a child because the child was wearing a bracelet who said u.s. parent on it, so we are hearing from the latinos who speak spanish from univision and telemundo, the spanish reporters can hear about people from those facilities as well once they do get out and they are there longer than usual under this administration, but this is not a crisis, humanitarian crisis only under this administration, it's good that it's being brought forward because we are having a problem and 2019, the united states should not be treating people like this anywhere under any condition. >> i have about a minute. ap photo that ran on the front page of new york times and showing migrant father and his daughter drowned in the rio grande, near the texas border,

it's absolutely chilling, gail, is the press using that against trump as if he is somehow responsible, increased by news worthy and heartbreaking photos? >> it is, we don't have photos of other 200 people who died in 2018, we don't hear from the media how a soft border is creating the crisis, they blame it all on trump and unfortunately when you have these heart rending situations and they don't report how organizations like doctors without borders are talking about how one-third of women who try to make the journey to the united states because we have not enforced our borders, they are being sexually assaulted. >> kathy, he hated the photos, laws need to be changed, has that picture influenced the media debate just briefly? >> that picture specifically, i think is the one that sparked the specific debate with pelosi that woke everyone up immediately and i actually watched it realtime when it came out and media outlet that would be considered liberal was saying

this is horrific, but they kept it on for about 5 minutes and i was even offended as a journalist watching the coverage that they didn't take it away, they didn't black anything out. in the old media days it would have been kept after 11:00 and warning for children not to look at that, nowadays, middle of the day, it was not appropriate. >> wake everybody up when president trump has been talking about this since 2015. we don't need photo -- >> financial things and not humanitarian things. >> imthe pact of the photo and up too long, thanks so much for the important discussion, still to come the captain of the u.s. women's soccer team fouls president trump pretty hard and he kick it is ball right back. w?

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>> the star of u.s. women's team refused to sing national anthem and reporter asked her about president trump. >> are you excited -- [inaudible] >> no, we are not going to the white house. we are not going to be invited. >> megan should win first before she talks, finish the job. does it surprise you that in biggest spotlight of her career megan would be protesting the anthem and then using the f word to trash president trump. >> it does not surprise me, she's been vocal about this, she started participating in kneeling when colin kaepernick was getting headlines back in

2017, u.s. soccer changed platform which i've always been against u it comes with territory, she is very vocal for the lgbt community and now she's effectively become a martyr for the left and she's the perfect hero to the antitrump message, in fact, "the new york times" had a headline saying she's the leader of her team and generation in her time. >> since you brought it up i have a new york times story for you, boldness in spotlight is nothing new. her athletic exploits aside, she's very good soccer player and captain, why has she become hero to the left because she trashes trump among other things? >> she's about to turn 34 on july 5th, so this could be her last world cup and i think my criticism is exactly what trump said, i don't think the media focused on this enough, there's a majority that isn't a fan of him, not everybody, but she needs -- they need to win first, they did beat third-ranked

country france, athletic superior, mainstream america, born in the usa, so she does have patriotism, i think the country would disagree on how she's displaying it abroad. >> very political because she has accepted invite from alexandria ocasio-cortez, she doesn't like the president. so, look, i get it, she's a gay athlete and unhappy with things in the country, despises trump, no way would she ever go to the white house, she's representing the united states of america in the world cup and so i'm offended and why does she have to choose this moment, i guess you could say why when people are listening to say things and why are the media not saying she's controversial, maybe she shouldn't have done this instead, she's muhammad ali, she's bold, amazing. >> when you compare to john wimbledon when he supported the president, all the headlines, most of them were negative against the ninth ranked tennis player in the world representing

our country. i'm with you on why there's difference in treatment, i do think knowing and interviewing the team how close knit they are and if they win and get invited i have a feeling none of them will show up. they have a lot of people that belong to lgbtq community and may ban together. >> it's very telling as you mentioned tennis player who supported president trump gets criticism and when she does this, people can support her or not support her but i would like to see balance in the coverage, great to see you. nice to end with a sports segment and that is it for this edition of media buzz, i'm howard kurtz, check out podcast, you can subscribe itunes, google play. original videos posted every day along with daily column and on twitter, good discussion about the media coverage at howard

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>> breaking news overnight,presy at the worlds most dangerous border where he became the first sitting u.s. president ever to . then, met with kim jong-un and the heavily fortified the military ice zone between north and south korea. hello everyone and welcome to america's news headquarters i marked out. >> hello are found. thanks for joining as i am eric shawn. the historic gesture happened at 346 in the afternoon local time. it was 2:46 eastern time in the u.s. president trump is you can see side by side with chairman kim