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syndicated radio host and former cia analyst buck sexton. he is a "outnumbered." we are happy to hear -- have you with international topics. >> melissa: it could be useful. let's get to it north media hailing president trump historic meeting with north korean kim jong un as a victory for peace. the two spoke for nearly an hour yesterday at the heavily fortified demilitarized zone which divides the north korean peninsula. they agreed to restart nuclear talks which broke down earlier this year. the president also says he's open to the possibility of kim jong un visiting the white house. watch this. >> just asked him outside, you know what, we will go over the there. we will see. but i would certainly extend the invite, but i actually mentioned

out there, anytime he wants to do it. >> melissa: life at the white house with the latest, rich. >> president trump after historic events this weekend expressing gratitude for the south korean government. the government including thank you to president for the delegation and following the successful g20 in japan. while they are great to call on north korea to have our very well covered meeting. good things can happen for all. president trump just became the first sitting american president to cross into north korea. it started in between meetings this weekend at the g20 meeting in osaka. the president tweeted a suggestion he and kim jong un meet at the dnc. the president said the two agreed to negotiating teams to restart the nuclear discussions. >> it was a great success because we maintained our relationship so we will have teams that will meet over the

next few weeks and we will start a process and we will see what happens. >> rich: both the united states and north korea pray previously had teams to negotiate some made very little progress in getting north korea to dismantle nuclear weapons and dis- -- missile programs. mostly intact, kim jong un has adhered to his pledge to suspend launching ballistic missiles and testing nuclear weapons. "the new york times" reports and ideas taking shape inside the administration to create a foundation for these negotiations. one that would freeze instead of eliminate north korea's weapons. john bolton tweeted about the outcome i read "the new york times" story with curiosity. neither the council staff nor i have discussed or heard of any desire to settle for a nuclear freeze by north korea. this was a reprehensible attempt by someone to box and the president. there should be consequences. secretary of state mike pompeo said the u.s. special

representative for north korea steve eakin will still lead u.s. efforts to try to negotiate with north korean, melissa. >> melissa: rich edson, thank you so much let me bring it to the couch come up buck, what you make of it? how significant to cross into the dnc and pull back a little bit? where do you think we are now as a result? >> buck: you have to start with the contacts because obviously high-stakes diplomacy and the president is looking for something of a miracle here. this is depicting one international relations problem that looks to be entirely intractable. you have had bipartisan and let's be honest about it, bipartisan failures stretching back three decades now. it is north korea. so this is what i think the president is doing correct, he has not lifted sanctions, has not decided to let up on north korea so there isn't this major economic incentive for them to try to do something. he is essentially throwing long bombs pardon the phrase in the end zone. he's actually trying to do

something no one has done before and basically on personal relationship. that, i think, something we have to give him leeway to do because no one has been able to figure this problem out in the past. the consensus opinion is something you can't focus on too much. the president is doing this the way he's doing it. so far, he's out a little bit of ratchet down of tensions this could be a way forward to. with that said, he's taking risks by giving kim jong un more than he's ever gotten before on the wall stage. >> donna: dozens of personal, we don't know, corresponded between the two men, amazing letters, extraordinary letters, great content. we have heard it all. what is the real goal at this point? we don't have a list of the inventory of what they have. they have not stopped enriching you uranium, plutonium. we don't know if there is another site that has been open in the last year.

so what concrete gains can the president make by this personal one-on-one chemistry that he has with a brutal dictator? >> buck: , that has been a major plus so far of what he's done, but what i do think, this is a relationship approach that the president is taking. this is a guy that doesn't have to answer to a parliament or congress. kim jong un does whatever he wants and sits upon a mountain of forests just based on absolute force and strikes. >> melissa: let me ask you come if you were to put together everything everybody has said and were to put together everything that has gone on so far, the president has tried to completely new approach and he has reached out and been able to form a dialogue where no one else has before him. and this is a new way to try things. on the other thing, donna is right. it is very hard to point to anything in terms of gain. so we are sort of sitting at this position where, why not try

a brand-new approach? nothing else has worked, but it is important to note this has not worked either. >> dagen: i think the increased activity book pointed out is a positive thing. what but what is the other option outside of diplomacy? a military warlike engagement be with north korea. i remember the pentagon, the middle ground sanctions we are doing that so let me answer that but go ahead -- the pentagon responded to congress inquiring what it would look like with north korea and michael dumont has said, sit considering the fact 25 million people, we know what that would look like. but the important thing there is not a lot of good options if president trump were certainly at least it doesn't look like there are. and what people point back to, do you remember the video president trump said the moving trailer that kim jong un in singapore? basically what it did, the trailer that goes through these different scenarios for

kim jong un. look, what you can have in looking back, military option, and you see, you know planes being shot, missiles being shot. the other option is or you can choose a better future and economic future? so this is the outline of choice offered to kim jong un but who knows if they will want to take it. >> dagen: kim jong un promised his people equal revitalization. and "the wall street journal" points out you have another sit down and that one fails, then this could prove fatal to the regime. that is what kim jong un does. >> melissa: that is interesting. do you agree with that analysis? >> buck: it is really tough to know and i also think you have to keep in mind the train a piece of this, you can't talk about what north korea is going to do where understanding where china falls on the spectrum. that is why the president having these meetings, we can't see the trade talks with china a vacuum with north korea. the only country in the world that could actually destroy the north korean economy overnight

and could effectively make north koreans do whatever they want economically is china. that is a very important piece of this. no one really knows how stable the regime's. the point about the personal relationship come all the points you make about the different meetings, this is ratcheting up. if he doesn't get a real breakthrough, people will have grounds to criticize the president but with that said he needs a narrative for a crazy dictator to present to his people that the regime that is they are, because -- >> melissa: but we don't normalize a very brutal regime. are we going to continue to call for full deep new colorization question mike i don't think it is like we are making fun of his own people. there are no elections there and he is the leader. >> melissa: i just want to get in here quickly on this note because the north said we would close, this is in the vietnam summit, close parts of the complex, however, in return, kim

demanded a rollback to recent sanctions that blocked the international trade. so he's wanted sanctions but so far has not given back. >> buck: and we can't. and trump knows that. >> melissa: the thing that is troubling really quickly, right or wrong secretary of state said you don't even have a common definition of denuclearization. after the summit, there was a statement signed less than 500 words, and we are still not at square one mike pompeo said secretary of state. we have very little common ground other than the love of the cameras. >> melissa: all right, possibly overlooked the history being made at the dmz, a major step forward with the leader of another asian nation and what he announced on the trade impasse with china. that is huge. plus joe biden's defense his record on civil rights may be going from bad to worse.

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>> melissa: fox news alert, protesters today breaking into the hong kong legislature is a crowd of thousands were marching in that direction on the 22nd anniversary of the former british colony return to china. both the protesters and the marchers oppose a government attempt to change extradition laws. greg palkot has more from the lender newsroom, greg greg.

>> buck: >> greg: live images around the main government building but the police had been holding back >> buck: >> greg: live the last several hours, images around the main the government building but the proposed democracy activists went into the main government building, smash their way in, took over the chamber of the cities states parliament and we are just waiting for the police to do something. now they are. they are dispersing the crowd, a couple of activists that have staged outside of the building and it looks like they are working their way into the building itself to get rid of the other demonstrators that are there, the background on this, melissa, what we have to know the police were criticized strongly for their reaction, they were overreaction the protest this last june 12th, 3 weeks ago and so, they have been showing remarkable amount of restraint. but now it is all over. now they are moving in. this is all about concerned by the people in hong kong.

we saw firsthand for about a week during the last ten days or so, when on the ground, watching the protest against a proposed extradition law which would possibly according to the people on the ground there, see some of their folks being sent into the suspect chinese adjustment system. they are upset about that and other things eroding their freedoms, their liberties and remember in 1997, a british colony and then handed over to china. and suppose to be a queue system one country approach to things where they would retain their liberties, retain democracy. but there has been big concerns about the erosion of that. today during the day on this anniversary, the 22nd anniversary of the hanover, we saw a peaceful march through that city. at half a million people according to the organizers, calling for the end of the

incursion into their own liberties. and we also saw protest against hanover ceremony by carrie lam, the chief executive of hong kong, backed by beijing. she is also a target for the protesters. but right now, we are seeing it all come to a head, really with really dramatic pictures. we are waiting to see if there will be a clash. we are watching a lot of the protesters dispersing. we are seeing tear gas being shot, again, we have been in front of the building. we have seen how the protesters gathered there. they are a pretty smart bunch. i've got to tell you, we spent time with him. they are courteous, they are organized, they are disciplined. they use social media to relate to each other. and they also come another key thing, they have no leader, melissa, which is a good thing. the authorities can't target a particular leader.

the bad thing is there could be a little bit of pick up spear that is what we are watching. >> melissa: greg, we are certainly watching the chaos. we see here people running and someone just ran into a home. we see the teargas. really what is turning into a lot of violence when early on as you described, the police trying to hang back because they had been criticized for cracking down too hard last week. let me ask you, because this is filled about being extradition law that allows china to extradite people from hong kong over to china and that has a lot of citizens concerned. you know, they would be subject to china's legal system. but it has been, you touched on this, it has been building about more than that. i mean, it's not just about this one issue. how long has this been building? and what are some of the other items along the way that have lit this match? >> greg: it has been building, actually, for years, and

protesters since 1997 hanover. again, for a little bit of background for the viewers, there was a 50 year limit, a 50 year limit until hong kong goes completely into the fold of china. people are really worried china, beijing trying to move up that deadline and really take control of things on the ground right now. so the past couple of years, we have seen protest there and clashes with the authorities. but with no real results. in 2014, we sell something, in 2003, we sell something, but now, we are seeing this past month, one sunday a million people turn out. another sunday 2 million people turned out in peaceful marches, but tonight on the some of the activists are taking matters into their own hands, melissa. >> melissa: greg palkot, thank you. >> we need to reform criminal justice to make sure black

mothers feel confident when they send their child, their son on the streets that they will be safe. we have to recognize, we have to recognize that kid wearing a hoodie may well be the next laureate and not aching pain in her. >> melissa: joe biden's idea of damage control making things worse. that comment evoked a fatal 20 shooting of unarmed black teenager trave on martin in florida. getting the vice president and democratic front runner into more controversy, senator cory booker one of the three lack democratic presidents running for president quickly hit back tweeting this "this isn't about a hoodie but the culture, the problem with the kids wearing a hoodie in the first place, booker who also criticized biden's nostalgic recollection of working with segregation and senators continued attacks on biden yesterday on "meet the press." >> whoever the nominee will become aware for the next president will be will need to

be someone who can talk openly and honestly about race, vulnerability because none of us are perfect to call this country the common ground of reconciliation. i'm not sure what vice president biden and whether he's up to the task giving the way the last three weeks have played out. >> melissa:... coming on the heels of senator kamala harris hammering biden on race. last week's democratic debate. donna, how long does this go on? how much are they going to hit vice president biden who has very, very strong, some people say unwavering support in the black community. how many times will they hit him? >> donna: we have been talking about race for entire 243 years of our entire existence. this next month marks 400th anniversary of the first africans to make land sure in the united states, displayed in 1619. i believe the important thing for joe biden to do right now is to talk about race in the

future. if we want to relitigate the past, which we can do, we will not come to any type of vision to where we are in the 21st century. the vice president has a strong record on race. he has a strong record on equality. he has a strong record on -- >> melissa: why is he being attacked on it then? >> donna: he is being criticized for not putting in the right context. if you were a senator in the 1970s, democrat or republican senator, we still had segregation being elected to congress. vice president biden should have said from the outset, that i came to congress at a time of the country is changing. he didn't put it in context. he used words like -- that made things worse. >> buck: how much of this is politics of everybody in this race understanding that there is really one establishment lane come a progressive lane which we see bernie sanders fighting over elizabeth warren and

establish lien. primary and it looks like you have kamala harris and cory booker deciding that this is biden's vulnerability. really, the first time i think you said, you could have spoken differently about it or biden should have put in better context but it just seems like booker sees it as an opening especially on the left, the candidate formally not just the leader in the polls. >> melissa: i want to ask donna something because you said look ahead and talk about race. but vice president biden, kamala harris brought up and issued to people under the age of 50 don't remember and that is bussing in this country. it divided much of the country between whites and blacks. there was not universal support for busing among black individuals in the country in the '70s. but she brought it up knowing she would get vice president on his heels and he would have to defend himself. >> donna: if you were vice president biden, why didn't you prepare for that in terms of

the debate? >> melissa: what should he have said? what would have been a good response? >> donna: at that moment in history in the country the country was divided. it tore us apart in the 1970s and by the way i lived in louisiana so we had forced busing and jefferson harris outside of new orleans. but the question today, are we going to go back in a time in american history where segregation ruled the land? or will we go forward with a country that believes in diversity, this wonderful, beautiful country. >> melissa: the challenge is -- >> donna>> lisa: because he didt answer it properly vice president biden has shown throughout his political history he is not a strong candidate in the and the way he responded to a kamala harris demonstrates his weakness. what democrats are saying particularly kamala harris and senator booker is that vulnerability, the only reason why biden has been ahead in the polls, as you know, his name from i.d. and perceived

electability. so if you are able to chip away this i.d. -- idea he's the most elected democrat -- >> melissa: was the hoodie offense -- offensive or not? >> donna: it goes to a stereotype but look it does change but you know what don't rule out joe biden. he has one hell of a fighter. >> melissa: gotcha. >> lisa: we will reconvene on that. >> melissa: i want to raise this issue, we are in a race with trump. with a hoodie, isn't that joe biden, a little bit undisciplined and off of the cup and people will explain that away like oh, that's joe biden. is that possible? >> donna: utility my nephew in south carolina. you tell my nephews in louisiana. utility to my cousins across the country if that is the best representation of who they are. it is not. that is why in the age of trump, the american people want to be known and appreciated and respected for who they are.

>> melissa: you see what i'm saying, senator harris, did she overreach? we've got to go, we've got to go. >> donna: she did. >> buck: it doesn't matter up with biden at this point. >> melissa: we have to go public defender versus prosecutor comments. 2020 democrats immediately ripping president trump's meeting with north korea and korean leader kim jong un calling it nothing more than photo op. did they go too far to criticize the president while he's on foreign soil or did they raise valid concerns? blessed growing pushback and op ed coles for the shaming of governor who worked migrant detention facilities. we get reaction ahead. >> he happened to be the director. there are fathers and mothers, sons and daughters themselves doing a tremendous job so long

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>> melissa: fox news alert, 2020 democrats no time going on the attack. president trump with an impromptu meeting with dictator kim jong un. the candidates suggesting it was a bad idea and all for show. former vice president joe biden campaign saying, president trump coddling a dictator at the expense of american national security and interest is one of the most dangerous ways he's diminishing us on the world stage and subverting our values as a nation. other 2020 democrats piling on as well. watch. >> i think this has been president trump appeasement tour. i have no idea why he shaking hands with a dictator who just in may with sending missiles into the sea of japan. >> he has weakened the state department. if we are going to bring peace to this world, we need the state department, we need to

move forward diplomatically, not just photo opportunities. >> melissa: of course as a country we want this to work. it's not as easy as going, you know bringing a hot dish over the fence to the dictator next door at. >> this president has raised the profile of a dictator like kim jong un. and now three times visited with him unsuccessfully because he's doing it backwards. >> melissa: so, book, what gets me about these kinds of ths what hypocrites on every side is. because you can switch iran and north korea and you have each side sort of saying the opposite thing. we are being too nice to north korea. we are being too mean to iran. back to the last administration, it was the opposite. everybody criticizing what the other party is doing. it is very frustrating for the person on the sidelines who would like to see these problems make progress. >> buck: yeah, but i think there is something a delusion among democrats right now when

they make these criticisms of the president, it is overwhelmingly on style. they don't like the way trump talks about or certain world leaders. let's actually look at the scoreboard of the world as it is and then start to compare what it look like under eight years of obama and -- >> melissa: let me respond to that because what they would say is we have nothing of substance out of north korea yet. and that iran would say, the president's fault tensions are high. >> buck: for example i'm part of the 9/11 generation i was part of iraq and afghanistan and we've been fighting a long time. we have to start for example and escalated in a major way as obama did in afghanistan a war largely for political purposes. we have not become meshed in quagmire and catastrophe. so that automatically puts trump this stage of the game way ahead of bush and way ahead of obama on foreign policy. when you look at what you were talking about these different negotiations, with trying to he's change the whole conversation. because he's on the substance right in the main if the details

we have to look at the distribution with chinese at one-way trade war for a long time. everyone kind of a graze on that bit further, north korea what i? he is moving ahead trying to do negotiations but do i think we are working in? i don't know, the odds are against him. but from syria on the sidelines we are not invading libya, kind of invading libya and washing it going up in smoke. we don't have the rights of isis. the american people say, the economy is strong and we are not fighting words we don't fight. >> donna: bella coast talk and rhetoric and bluster. but the fact is north korea is still nuclear business is still open. we know that they produce 20 to 60 warheads over the period of this so-called, i've got another offense. and i think what concerns most americans, not just democrats

but most americans is at the end of the day, will this lead to any real results? are we putting substance behind the superficial ahead? because we are going to find -- >> melissa: let me challenge you on that because he has not lightened up on the sanctions. and that is exactly what he's asked for it. anything given to buck '. in terms of style and not substance. he has not eased on kim jong un. >> donna: we don't know that, we don't know that yet because we still don't know what's happening in these negotiations. we don't know the conversation is. allow these facilities. >> buck: the iran deal and the iranians come again 20% to 90% frequently. so that is another part of this where trump looks like he understands this better on the inside. >> lisa: i don't think president trump is vulnerable on the policy issues.

the democrats, the democrats could be vulnerable on the issue particularly someone like joe biden who owns the obama/biden administration. who has had a week and ran deal but chuck schumer opposes because of the weakness in the key issue but weak on russia telling russia the more flexibility after the election. but donna, you can go through -- [overlapping voices] >> melissa: real quickly. go ahead, dakin. >> dagen: i would like to say these democrats, better indignation at the fencing machine because for us to pay attention to them if everything that president trump does is just going to be the end of the world, they have to up their game, get better, comment writers. >> lisa: honestly, obama, clinton, bush my back, back, back stop the hyperventilating.

i agree. >> melissa: there might be more hyperventilation. [laughter] i don't know, donna, we will see. the debate over the migrant crisis gone too far? we will see an "new york times" op ed called for the public shaming u.s. government employees working in migrant detention facilities and the peace the treatment of migrants likely meets atrocity. the author and assistant professor at university college of london says she's not calling come up publishing private info but she rates these actions, these agents action should be publicized particularly in the home community. this is not an argument but exposure of participation and atrocities to audiences whose appearances they care about. they acknowledge, for instance, you go to church on sunday, your entire congregation will have seen you on tv ripping a child out of her father's arms. the serious social cost to bear. donna, why should custom and

border protection officials be punished for doing their job? >> donna: first of all of my federal employee i respect the work that all of our personnel are doing. this is not an easy job to protect the border and it's not an easy job to make sure that our airports are safe. so i don't support that argument at all. and anyone who makes an argument, i can tell you is not one that will get support from me. but i do believe that as it americans, i want to make sure. i know many of these individuals have crossed the border illegally. i want to make sure we treat them in a humane way. i'm not out there trying to criticize them, call them names, dehumanize them. they are people that deserve some type of humane treatment. and i don't want -- >> buck: we deal with the argument as it's made here, i think. the argument, this idea that you will be able to publicize the individual actions of people who work, the federal government,

acting within the law. in town this road numerous times and the people are doing the best i can. border patrol agents taking toys from their own children to give to these migrant children at the border. these are our people. these are fellow americans. they are not -- a large percentage of border patrol agents are minorities coming from south of the border. so this idea that somehow these terrible people, concentration camps without discourse and she is calling for the doxxing of law enforcement agencies. when we see this kind of rhetoric, and cops and racist cops and a lot of black lives matter of stuff. i was at those protest and heard it but some people actually hurt badly on that and there needs to be greater concern because this is really trying to get people call dell and can put them in danger for doing their jobs as law enforcement officers. >> melissa: i appreciate your point, but that's not the point of view from a lot of people. you have democrats like alexandria ocasio-cortez calling

dependent -- these concentration camps. democrats for abolishment of eyes, direct shots at these immigration officials who are simply just doing their jobs so i appreciate donna's point of view but that's not what we've heard from a lot of democrat spirits before this will take a lot of things to fix and everyone will have to work together and i sort of defy the responses into two buckets. there are those people completely negative and doing things and are not helping, not working towards the solution, but rather, ripping down what someone else is doing. ripping down their solution. that is not helpful. this falls into that category and we have border patrol agents who are working hard. instead, getting punished in this way. then there are people putting forward ideas and solutions, one thing -- no one thing will solve anything. i give nancy pelosi to credit for coming to the table and i know they say she was forced but she came together on the money and she had a meeting with lindsey graham and asked him for money to go south of the border to central america. that is on the solution end of

itself where we are sending money and it's not working. but rather than criticizing what everyone else is doing, people have to step forward with positive -- >> lisa: did this woman apologized to step up if somebody gets hurt or somebody gets attacked because we experience a lot of bullying and demagoguery and the written word and in for a spoken word but this woman is trying to take it a step far and simultaneously deny it. this is a dangerous propaganda and it needs to be called for what it is. >> melissa: we will end there, president trump with trade talks and try to back on top after meeting with the president at the g20 summit. but some republicans are joining democrats and questioning the president's session like the one involving chinese spectrum. we will debate it next. ♪ va home loan benefit that lets us borrow up to 100 percent of our home's value,

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>> buck: you just recently met with the chinese president president xi jinping. are you closer to a trade deal? >> he wants to make a deal. i want to make a deal. i guess you would guess the largest deal made of any kind. and we got along very well and we understand each other. >> melissa: so that was president trump over the weekend exclusive interview with carlson that will air tonight after a sitdown with president xi jinping at the g20. the world's two largest economies to restart negotiations and to hold off on living in a new tariff on each other's products. the president also predicting china would buy large quantities of u.s. agricultural products. president trump also partially looking at a ban on dealing with chinese tech giant huawei to sell to the company with parts with no security risk. that appears to be a point of

big concern for republicans like senator marco rubio, watch. >> i'm not anti-china but the tactics involved with aggressive, hostile efforts to weaponized the country's system against american companies. so i will continue to work with my colleagues and administration to make sure we are clear eyed about the threats that huawei proposes to the united states and tech american businesses and our national security. >> melissa: i want to start with dagan, no doubt in my mind they say we have nothing to do with the government and totally independent company owned by shareholders. i don't believe that. but let me ask you this, the latest thing he is saying, it is important to listen to the language because he said he will allow american companies to sell components apart to huawei, not that he's allowing huawei to sell products into the u.s. it is the other way around. when you talk about their products potentially this, that

in the other thing, that is an important distinction. what do you think? >> dagen: because the trump administration has intentions with huawei and according to the u.s. officials, the entire company founded on stolen western technology and building wireless networks around the globe including particularly in africa. capped by the chinese government. now that all of these companies are on notice, they know what they are getting into. we put a burden, really, pressure on the allies across europe to join us to prevent basically the fact of our own secrets and allies. that is important, but this is the truth. this lowers the temperature. we can get back to the table. this prevents -- president trump has to worry about the economy. >> buckspeed i will end it witha period come i promise. and at least give him some breathing room to ensure the

economy. >> buck: she said it is going to be given and taken one of the biggest problems with china are these national champions, the state border at enterprises and huawei, we all know that is not the case, not just economic long-term strategy but selling component from american companies unless you are worried they will reengineer them. hopefully we will have a restricted list that are sensitive will be the plan. but you will need to have some of this. back and forth. they can't just all be fixed. >> melissa: you have to give to get. i don't want to give anything. >> a security threat they posed not to -- don't worried, david. >> keep it over there. >> donna: the one thing that i think we like is the tariffs. i cannot tell you the number of times i've traveled the last couple of weeks. the toll that has been taken on the agriculture sector. that is good news for farming,

good news for the economy that we are going to lower this tension on the tariffs. >> melissa: can you get nancy pelosi to bring the u.s. to the floor because that's for farmers too. >> donna: chuck has nancy's number and they should talk. >> melissa: they are hurting huawei and china's walls state entities and individuals have to work with them on intelligence gathering efforts. that is what china's law states. but president trump tomorrow could say hey, look we are moving forward on additional tariffs $300 billion is good so who knows what will happen there. if you are china it would be looking at the 2020 election and knowing there is a little bit of political pressure that president trump is facing. >> melissa: they must stop intellectual. they must stop it. it's got lots of attention last week but all ten democratic last week one raised in support of health care for undocumented

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>> melissa: democrats doubling down on the push for free health care for undocumented immigrants. after last thursday, presidential debate where all ten candidates raise their hands to support the idea appear that would be a major policy change from 29 -- 2009 when former president barack obama told congress in the state of the union address his health care law would not cover illegal immigrants. the democratic national committee chair tom perez is falling in line with the 2020 candidates.

watch this. >> we are in a different era. i believe what we are doing right now is a right thing to do. >> why is it the right thing to do? >> i live in a community if you are a pregnant woman and you are undocumented, we provide you with access to health care because we believe that having good prenatal care is a central health care issue and issue of economics and frankly, morality. >> that was not president obama state of the union. congress must correct that. tom perez is in a bind, is he not if you have every candidate holding up your hand for health care for illegal immigrants, you have two fall in line if the head of the dnc. >> donna: this is an aspirational goal that we have seen through the candidates, the policy that they would permit if elected president. and right now emma grant -- immigrants cannot access federal benefits either under obamacare

or the chip program. so what i heard at the debate last week, if you have a sick person, undocumented sick person, they should have access to life-saving medication and life-saving treatment. that is what i heard. >> buck: i think -- >> donna: i did not hear a proposal to change into policy. we believe as democrats and as americans because of the values that we have and health care, that every person should have access. >> buck: on hillary's website in the last election, it was said she wanted illegal aliens, immigrants and illegal immigrants come illegal aliens -- >> donna: undocumented. >> buck: the correct term illegal aliens and buy into obama but now they are saying people should get free health care in violation of u.s. law. kamala harris realizes this is a no-go, once again in the general election which is why she is saying i don't know, i'm not sure. this is kryptonite for the elect where it went the democrats have

to face the whole issue and they know it. >> lisa: donna may say it's aspirational but the problem is the imagery, probably the likely democratic nominee holding up the hand and saying they are for this. tell me this one up play and some of these areas where people are concerned about how will i be better off left her -- after the next president? how will this better my community. and also president obama in 2006 said this influx of workers would depress blue-collar wages and burden and already burden safety net. what democrats are calling for is not only an open border, but also increasing the safety net. how do you possibly do that? >> donna: no democrat has called for open border. the democrats, you've got to go back to come if we don't go back to obama come if we go back to e obama administration we should e obama administration did to

secure the borders. and also add an extra border security agent and tried to bring new technology to protect our border. the point is, many democrats believe because many of the undocumented immigrants in this country are paying some form of taxes they should be -- >> lisa: they are not americans which is the point. >> donna: they should be able to afford. they have to pay. nobody said the word free. they said they have to pay. they are paying and they have to pay. >> melissa: we've got to go but the democratic candidates look like they are more interested in the people who are not here illegally than the people who are. >> buck: there are veterans that need health care. ♪ ♪ limu emu and doug.

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>> a name for a radio show. >> we only booked you for the hair. sticker not the first time i've been told that. >> this is melissa in for harri harris. >> bipartisan praise for president trump after a dramatic moment the border of north and south korea is the president becomes the first commander in chief to cross into the so-called hermit nation. let's go "outnumbered overtime." i am melissa francis in for harris faulkner. it was historic. president trump is the first u.s. president to step onto north korean territory. the president also meeting with kim jong un for nearly an hour and saying that they will revive negotiations to dismantle north korea's nuclear weapons program. the president also talking about inviting the north korean dictator to the white house. former u.s. ambassador to the u.n., bill richardson, saying the real work comes