there. i hope we get them. this has got to stop. the shakes, throwing it all over this guy. that is all the time we have left. hope you had a great fourth of july, great to be back. thank you for making us number one last month and cable. let not your heart be troubled. there she is. youu missed me. >> laura: can't you do better that number one? i: mean, honestly, you've been a slackerbe these last 20 years. >> sean: 23 but who's counting. >> laura: number one -- just one? can't you -- >> sean: you know what i told o'reilly the other day on my radio show? i said, why don't you come back to cable. i like to be number one again because then i will take a lot less crap. i think it comes with it. >> laura: we all take it hannity. it's evenly -- >> sean: you get your fair share of it. no doubt about it. but i am there for you. and tucker when you need it. >> laura: i'm glad i play sports. that's all i can say. [laughs] >> sean: this is a blood sport.t.

>> laura: i played field hockey. field hockey players are pretty -- >> sean: i played ice hockey but we'll talk about another day. maitre giuliani is here to respond to my angle on who is pushing harris to the top of th democrat heap and whether the white house should be concerned. plus, antifa violence rocked another city this past weekend. tonight, one of its victims is here to tell us why he was back in the hospital just days ago. a former fbi official reveals why the group should be designated tonight a domestic terror organization. and later a former sex crimes attorney breaks down all of the hideous and lurid details inside the indictments of disgraced financier jeff epstein. and dan bongino sounds off on a

starbucks employee shaming arizona cops. you do not want to miss it. but first, as promised, kamala obama 3.0. that is the focus of tonight's "angle." in case you hadn't heard kamala harris continues to surge in the latest polls ahead y of what we are seeing now is striking distance of front-runner joe biden. now he was left stunned and stammering after harris smacked him on the issue of race in that first primary debate. >> there was a little girl in california. she was bussed to school every day. and that a little girl was me. on this subject, it cannot be an intellectual debate among democrats. >> because your city council made that decision. a >> the federal government must step in. >> laura: after her impassioned and painstakingly choreographed takedown of biden and his view that local

authorities, not the federal government, should decide whether busing is rightieau for their school districts, well harris, she has now adopted biden's position! by the way, that is a point his press secretary made plain on twitter last week. etyou can read it. she's on all sides of most issues. she will say and do anything to win. including bloodying up biden with a vicious racial smear. in other words, it is like well, joe, you are not really a racist, but... and let's face it, obama's former two term vp, he is the only real challenge standing in the way of her claiming the obama mantle. because what could be more historic? following the first male african-american president, then four years later, the first female african-american president. and to beat him, she has to win over black voters.

that is a core constituency for the democrat party that still favors biden.e this weekend, kamala harris spoke at the essence festival in new orleans. she unveiled a new $100 billion housing plan that will fund down payments on homes and closing costs for african-americans. >> so a typical black family has just $10 of wealth for every $100 held by a white family. so we must right that wrong. after generations of discrimination, give black families a real shot at homeownership, by taking these steps, we can shrink their wealth gap between black and white households by at least one-third. >> laura: but what aboutle the hispanic-white wealth gap? or the native american-white wealth gap? a lot of different wealth gaps out there?

how do you equalize at all? well, this is clearly racial pandering of the worst sort. but it's designed to peel voters away from joe biden. s who this weekend was still trying to apologize for his let's face it, terrible debate performance, and then reinforce -- he was trying -- his obama bona fides. >> the problems that we have today. that is why i am proud to work alongside barack. i don't say president obama. two weeks ago, somehow gave the impression to people, i am again, yes, i was, i regretted. >> laura: and michelle obama was given a chance to quell her party's racial storm and defend

her husband's loyal former running mate when she was at the essence festival. watch. >> what, if anything, would you like to say about the kamala-biden dustup? he apologized today. do you have any thoughts about that? >> i do not. >> okay. >> moving on. >> i've been doing this rodeo far too long. >> moving on. >> no comment. >> laura: it's, like, very telling. why no comment? since kamala's racial roundhouse kick to biden's head, the obama's haven't even defended joe biden by saying something as innocuous as, we worked closely with joe for more than eight years. he's not a racist. but michelle decided not to even throw a short lifeline to biden. and she did that for a reason.

remember in 2008 when candidate obama needed joe biden on the ticket? he needed him to give him obama, some moderate blue-collar cred. to make it more palatable to middle america. that was then and this is now. we are living in different times. biden is not really needed today to be the heir of obamaism. no, harris, when you look across the board, harris is a much more logical fit. and some notable obama administration alums are already working for harris. there they are. and who doubts that kamala and her team are in contact with obama, who seemed to enjoy being, at least not say it, but they appear to be enjoying this role of would be, perhaps, down the road, king and queen makers? watch. >> barack and i are going to support whoever wins the primary. we are supportive of everyone. we are giving advice to whomever seeks it. >> you give advice to whoever seeks it? >> anyone who calls or wants to call.

>> laura: of course she has. but we all still remember this moment in 2013.an when president obama's warm words for kamala harris raised some eyebrows. private event, he said, "she's brilliant and she's dedicated she's tough. she also happens to be by far the best looking attorney sgeneral in the country." i am sure michelle was thrilled at that line. but there are other deep contexts at t play. check this out, harris' younger sister, maya, who was the former head of the northern california chapter of the aclu, is married to tony west. tony weston was one of obama's g eric holder's top lieutenants at the justice department. i would bet my bottom dollar, as my mom used to say, that team obama is advising harris and advising her to go really tough on her opponent, to bebe the fighter that hillary clinton was not, much of the obama's

frustration, i might add. biden was just the warm-up act though, for kamala. now she is lashing out at president trump. and with wild, ludicrous charges. >> i have known predators and we have a predator living in the white house. so when we look at this campaign and we look at the path before us, it will be to successfully prosecute the case against four more years of donald trump and i am prepared to do that. [cheerse and applause] >> laura: maybe she will even start copying trump supporter's favorite campaign chant they were derided for when they were screaming "lock her up" about hillary. maybe she will just change the "her" to "him." you get the feeling that kamala believes she can prosecute any case she sets her mind to even when the facts are nonexistent. >> the current occupant of the white house going around about

how this economy is doing so great. the economy is great,re and he points to the stock market. well, that is fine if you own stocks. we say, well, how else are you measuring the greatness of this economy of yours? and they point to fox news. >> laura: okay, let me get this straight. she not know about pension funds, how those are invested in the stock market -- forget about that. but trump's historic high wages record low unemployment, the boom in american manufacturing tjobs, more manufacturing jobs created during trump than obama. i just saw this yesterday consumer confidence is now at an 18 year high. we are supposed to believe that is all due to fox news? [laughs] wow. i didn't realize we had all that much power. harris, i think, is going to

have a heck of a time convincing americans that things are not better. the economy is not really strong. and a lot of them are just happier than they were during the obama years. maybe not antifa but most of the people. i guess if she just wants to traffic and high-stakes deception and of course, the celebrity-fueled razzle-dazzle sheth certainly is hanging aroud with the right people. and that is the "angle." and our next guest reveals which rival the trump team is most concerned about. joining us now is rudy giuliani. attorney for president trump and former presidential candidate himself. rudy, great p to see you. >> nice to see you. >> laura: is the president shaking in his boots? he doesn't wear boots. shaking in his -- i don't know capp toe shoes, over kamala harris? >> he's not shaking at all about kamala harris or any of them. the president realizes there's going to be a candidate, we don't know who it is, and they are going to have to make all

these crazy charges. but i think is prettyes comfortable. i am, certainly, with the fact that they have gone so far to the left. kamala harris is in favor of open borders. i wonder what kind of prosecutor she is if she is in favor of open borders. if you are in favor of open borders, you must be in favor of open doors in house. let everybody in. let's not find out who they are or identify themselves. she's in favor of late term abortion. late term meaning the day before the baby is born. we can go on and on. high taxes. she does a little better job than some of them, like warren and bernie, of disguising herself as not as quite left-wing. but when you examine her positions, she's very, very left wing. i think she is the flavor of the month becausee joe could not defend himself and it was kind of pathetic. she eviscerated him and i thought it wasn't with very much. and i think that we got a very very big signal from michelle. that was definitely calculated. you saw that.

i mean, you pointed it out beautifully. michelle is a very smart woman whatever else she has. >> laura: rudy, she could have said, i'm not taking sides here on the presidential contest, but we know joe biden very well. joe and jill were really close to us, serving with them for eight years, not a racist bone in his body. >> that is easy to say. >> laura: she went out of her. -- i think she went out of her way, both of them, not to say that. you can't -- you don't hear a peep out of barack obama unless itit is a sideswipe at trump without really mentioning him by name. i have found that to be -- i kind of found that to be graceless on the part of the obamas. >> at a bare minimum, biden is entitled to, "he's not a racist." also, he's not. i have a lot of issues with biden, including what appears to be a lot of corruption in china and ukraine. hundreds of millions -- millions one place, billions other place while he's negotiating for america. his son is pulling down millions

of dollars and joe was taking him there on air force p two. come on.oe that was one of us, we'd be indicted by now. but i believe the democrats aren't touching that yet. they are trying to take them out on his lack of confidence. >> laura: rudy, they seem very, and surprisingly unprepared. they should have been prepared for incoming from someone they know it is close with the obamas.ve >> let's face it, joe is neverer been a good candidate. i know -- he's not that bright. the president says that, it happens to be true. everyone always says, oh, he's funny, he's uncle joe. the fact is, he's not the brightest bulb -- >> laura: he's a back slapper type. a shoulder grabber. >> he's not that smart. >> laura: rudy, jill spoke out tonight -- >> the rest of the people are smart. obama is smart. michelle is very wicked smart. they also realize he's not up to it. they want to win. w i think they feel that joe is going to self implode at some

point. >> laura: jill biden spoke out tonight and if they were clearly stunned and ill-prepared for this attack. let's watch. >> big a surprise for you so far? >> the biggest surprise, i think, was the debates. i think probably kamala was a little bit of a surprise. i think that is the biggest surprise so far. >> laura: again. how are you not prepared for that? that is disqualifying in and of itself. >> of course it is. if you are not prepared for kamala, are you prepared for -- are you prepared for kim jong un and putin and people in china? [laughs]im >> laura: no, they make too much money in china. >> honestly, joe is not prepared. that is a sad truth about him. >> laura: rudy, we got of a lot of other topics we want to get to. we destroy thatim topic. >> [laughs] >> laura: i want to get to what attorney general barr said] about mueller's upcoming testimony next week.

y watch. >> i was disappointed to see him subpoenaed because i don't think that serves any purpose dragon bob mueller up if he in fact it's going to stick to the report. it seems to me the only reason for doing that is to create some kind of public spectacle and if bob decides that he doesn't want to be subject to that, the department of justice would certainly back him. >> laura: what do you make of those comments? h >> i think that the attorney general realizes this has gone way beyond what normally happens that way beyond the bounds of ethics in discussing the facts about somebody about whom you are not going to bring charges. a 400 plus page report, ten minute sort of suggested press conference, and now we will repeat it all with this kind of glorified testimony? i think the attorney general is very concerned about it. from a political point of view i almost like it because i believe that the republicans

have a lot of good questions to ask mueller. he'sd going to have a very hard time answering them. i think the net of this is going to be that people are going to have more questions about mueller after it's over them before they go in. i can see why the attorney general, if i was in his position, i'd be very concerned about how this is really doing something terribly unethical, that prosecutors are taught you never should do. you should never talk about a case when you decline nprosecution. ever, ever, ever. >> laura: we will get into hethis topic later in the show t i did want to get your take and thoughts on what's happening with jeffrey epstein, he pled not guilty to charges of sex trafficking minors. breathtakingly hideous allegations. did you know him? did you have any interactions with him ever? >> i don't believe so. i don't a member of her meeting with him. his face looks a little familiar but it may be because i've seen themer on television. i can't imagine that i know him. he's a real close friend of bill clinton. he's the one who travel on planes with him, went all over with him.

i'm not saying that bill clinton was involved in any way but he's the one who was really close to him. o i can't imagine i ever had much to do with anything. i don't recall ever having anything to do with them. >> laura: looks like they are clearly after this alex acosta labor secretary for thee president, with that plea deal any thoughts on that tonight? >> my view is somebody charged with the things he is charged with, you throw the maximum penalty at him. i don't know what he decided as u.s. attorney.y. i don't want to second-guess that. my knee-jerk reaction to it is that the guy should be in jail for a long time. given what i know publicly, and have to put in the caveat everyone is presumed innocent. >>s laura: one final thought rudy, question, nancy pelosi nancy pelosi spoke out today on the census citizenship question and made an outrageous swipe -- more than a swipe -- at the president. watch.wi >> this is about keeping -- you know that his hat, make america

white again. they want to make sure that people, certain people, aren't counted. it's really disgraceful. it's not what our founders had in mind. who are we? what is america? >> i don't know what's wrong with her. the question is, nancy, whether you are a citizen. we have white citizens, w black citizens, we have hispanic citizens, chinese -- it's whether you are a citizen. >> laura: why did she say it rudy?ze going back to my "angle." this is by any means necessary to take out the president. they want to divide this country, they want to turn white against black, hispanic against black, white against -- i mean it is a cynical, horrible strategy. >> every single thing that is done, whether it relates to anything like that or not, they will interpret that way. it's like a talking point they just repeat. there ishe nothing racial about asking someone whether they are a citizen. it is like seeking identification before you vote. that's racial?

>> laura: she knows it. she saying it anyway. >> you have to produce identification to get on an airplane. >> laura: nancy pelosi's mind. she is doing this very reason. they are worried about trump gaining even a five percentage point among african-american voters because it's a great economic record he's had with african-americans. criminal justice reform. i think they are panicked about that. they want to divide thee country on racial lines. i think it's disgusting. everyone is doing better in this economy, everybody. >> the president when he ran in '16 said take a chance on me you can't do any worse. you know, they are doing better than they have ever done, all of us. >> laura: rudy, got to go -- >> particularly minorities. >> laura: rudy, great to see you. coming up, the leftist mob known as antifa struck another city thisy, weekend. ahead we speak to one of their latest victims and a former fbi assistant director says it is time to call antifa what they are.or he'll tell us what that is next. ♪

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♪ >> laura: antifa strikes again. this time bringing their chaos to washington, d.c. the group was trying to disrupt a demand free speech rally when they clashed with police. this comes as anti-know, the conservative journalist attacked by a antifa last week, returned

to the hospital due to injury stemming from that attack. despite the bleeding in the brain, andy is kind enough to join me now. andy, first of all, how are you feeling tonight? a >> i am just trying to concentrate on my recovery thank you for having me on. >> laura: i'm glad to see you. we described -- i also want to ask you, we describe you as a conservative journalist. is that -- do you want to be described that way? i've read conflicting reports on that. how do you prefer to be described? >> i think that's probably fair. i don't take too much issue with that. my work is out there on the record and people can make their judgment. >> laura: all right, that's fair. you report on antifa violence and in portland, oregon, but as we just said, they were in d.c. this past weekend, physically attacking people at a free speech rally. so this is not just a west coast

phenomenon, is it? >> not at all. i've been warning for a long time now that this is the paramilitary movement made up of extremist, violent, communist anarchists. they are actually agitating for a revolution. so violence is their modus operandi.. they are not confined to small progressive cities on the west coast. you see them all over the united states, and also, even outside of the u.s. >> laura: when you see only three democratic candidates including one who dropped out tonight or today, eric swalwell and the other guy pulling at 1% -- only three of them condemned the attack against you. what does that tell you? if you or anyone else, certainly anyone on the left, or a protected class, it would have e been a national conversation about who are these people, we must all condemn them, they

would be candlelight vigils. it would be absolute, just -- unanimity of thought. three candidates out of the 20! your thoughts? >> i think it says that i am the wrong type of victim. a lot of these candidates who remain violent are the same ones who t came out to express continued support for jussie smollett's hate crime hoax. >> laura: andy, have you thought of learning martial arts? i know you are filming stuff. but if someone is attacking you have you ever thought of hitting them back? i know it is hard because o they are throwing stuff at you. but my instinct is, i want you to hit them back. i'm sorry but you have to defend yourself more than just with goggles. >> yeah, actually because i've never been in a fight, the first impact was to my head and from the back and i just -- before i could even gather what had happened, the punchers just kept coming in every direction, and

then i was blinded. >> laura: no chance. >> no chance to fight. >> laura: andy, a lot of people out there would be happy to train you. i think it is probably good for a lot of americans to learn how to defend themselves in certain lcircumstances. andy, we are thinking about you praying for you. best of luck out there. we'll check in with you soon. >> thankin you. >> laura: antifa violence hass one senator so concerned that he wants to designate antifa as a domestic terrorist organization. i should hope so.an we should have a lot of people signing onto that. phil cassidy of louisiana saying he was doing this in part because of the latest attacks. here's former nypd commissioner bernie kerik. >> this is an extremely violent group that goes out and threatens, intimidates, attacks with extreme violence for political reason. i think they should be designated as a terror group domesticho terror group. >> laura: what specific

.behavior would justify that? we are joined by assistant fbi agent. he led the team that tracked down the atlanta olympics bomber. what is the reason, number one that antifa fits this designation? >> antifa is an ideology but they have people who follow that ideology around the country and they have exhibited all the hallmarks of domestic terrorism as designed by statute.xh that means they are committing violence or intimidating civilian populations for their own political aims. that fits there.e. the only other requirement is that the criminal act that they are committing, which are myriad, happens in united states within our borders. >> laura: chris, here is the 18 usc 2331 you know it well. "the term domestic terrorism

means activities that involve acts dangerous to human lives that are a violation of the criminal laws, appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, to influence policy of government by intimidation or coercion, to affect the conduct of government erby mass destruction assassination, or kidnapping." you heard the previous guest. the goal is to create anarchy and sow discord, leading to armed revolution in the united states. in all people watching thinking oh, laura -- they run around with masks and they throw things that people and their wounds on the back of the heads of individuals, innocent individuals. if this were any other group of people who were being targeted or innocents being targeted by people with face coverings chris, i mean, whether it's the kkk or antifa, you should not be walking around as part of a protest -- not talking about religion -- talking about part of a protest, violent protest face.we can't see your i don't even know that's a lot

anyway. >> it shouldn't be allowed. there are many states north carolina is one of them where you can't wear a mask during a protest. you can't carry backpacks and some studies because of ordinances. you can't carry sticks and poles and frozen water bottles and padlocks tied to bandannas or other makeshift weapons. but that is the hallmark of antifa at various events across the country. i mean, their goal -- their stated ideology, it's fair game and they advocate committing violence against anyone they define as a fascist. that is a pretty broad definition. i've seen people with maga hats being defined as fascists. and called from the crowd and beat down with sticks and poles. almost like a gang beat down. >> laura: right, and walking into drugstores of the weekend in washington, ahe friend of mie said, they are walking around town in stores fully masked. people were taken aback by this

is just -- it is madness complete madness, and the u.s. government, both parties, should take a stand against it. it's beyond politics. this is dangerous and it's a real problem. chris, thank you so much for being with us tonight. we'll check back with you soon on this and much more. next we take you inside the indictments of jeffrey epstein and speak to a sex crimes prosecutor about how he could have gotten away with this for as long as he did. plus, in a statement late tonight, did bill clinton just get caught in another lie? this one about his ties to this disgraced financier. detailsie ahead. financier.

>> laura: in a shocking and horrifying headline today financier jeffrey epstein was arrested and charged with sex trafficking. it's alleged that he abused dozens of underage girls and unfortunately this a was not the first time. for the story we go to fox news chief correspondent jonathan hunt in our west coast newsroom. jonathan? >> good evening, laura. jeffrey epstein was brought into court today, his hair disheveled and dressed in a blue jail uniform, having spent the night in an cell. a far cry from the comforts of his private jet, which had flown him to the u.s. from paris over the weekend prior to his arrest. prosecutors revealed they found hundreds, perhaps thousands of lewd photographs of apparently underage girls when they searched epstein's new york mansion. they charged him with abusing dozens of girls as young as 14.

>> children are provided epstein massages while they were nude or partially nude. children who were enticed to do all these things at the hands of a man more than ore nearly three times their age.ma >> epstein was jailed pending a bail hearing next monday, which prosecutors will argue he should be kept in jail. >> we think is a significant flight risk and that is why we are seeking detention pending trial. he has enormous wealth. the charges are very serious and carry with them maximum sentence of 45 years in jail which, to someone of epstein's age, it's basically a life sentence. >> epstein's attorney dismissed the charges in the indictment as "ancient stuff" and accused the government have essentially

seeking a redo after a 2008 nonprosecution agreement in floridalo allowing epstein to plead guilty only to charges of soliciting a minor. that deal was overseen by alexander acosta, who was then u.s. attorney in miami, and is now president trump's labor secretary. epstein'ss friends and acquaintances have included mr. trump, britain's prince andrew, the actor kevin spacey, and former president bill clinton, whose office tonight issued a statement saying in part "president clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes jeffrey epstein pleaded guilty to in florida some years ago all those with which he had been recently chargedhi in new york." some of epstein's accuser issue statements as well today welcoming his arrest and saying it is time for epstein and hiswe "circle of powerful people" to be brought to justice. laura? >> laura: jonathan, thank you so much.ro joining me now to analyze is a former sex crimes prosecutor herself. nicole, good to see you. based on what we know so far, is

the southern district of new york likely, in your mind to get a conviction against epstein here despite that previous deal that he has struck with the former u.s. attorney of florida?ou >> that is definitely something that we can't tell just yet. we certainly do have quite a lot of information from this very wordy indictment. that said, what we don't have is access to any of the evidence in this case whatsoever. all this indictment is an allegation. it is simply the government making an accusation that this is what epstein did. >> laura: the headlines obviously are disturbing. the indictment is long, as you said. epstein knew his victims were underage, that is part of the indictment for some, minor victims expressly told him their age, and he wasn't working alone, according to another part of the indictment.

he worked and conspired, nicole with others, including employees and associates, who facilitated the conduct, among other things, contacting victims and scheduling their sexual encounters with epstein, paid people apparently to go out anda recruit. it goes on and on and on. is this the way the high and mighty, those with hundreds of millions of dollars, how they would operate in a situation like this, to try to insulate themselves with people in high places? >> i certainly hope not. i certainly hope that what we find out is that this is not true. it certainly looks horrid. it's absolutely salacious. that means may be one reason why the government in this case has included so much detail in this indictment, to get the public's attention, and to really get people thinking about the horrific nature of these charges. but the reality is that we have heard no evidence whatsoever. i certainly hope that this is not how he or anyone else conduct themselves.

>> laura: obviously the political aspect of this is tantalizing, another part of this. he knew a lot of people, a lot of democrats, rudy giuliani mentioned this earlier tonight said, i don't even know if i met him. i know bill clinton knew him and a spokesperson for president clinton tonight releasing a statement -- earlier today, saying that he knew- nothing about the charges, and he took only a total of four trips on epstein's airplane back in 2002 and 2003, nicole, but flight records from epstein's plane revealed that clinton actually took at least 26 trips aboard what was known i guess at the lolita express. so if that discrepancy is in fact true, and flight records are flight records, not clear why bill clinton's name would be on a flight record if he wasn't on the plane, would it be fair for them to bring bill clinton in as some type of witness? down the road? >> it is possible, i suppose.

the government can talk to anyone that wants to talk to the government. if the government has questions for bill clinton, certainly they cank ask. does he have to answer? he doesn't. does this make him in any way connected to this incident? there's really no evidence to support that at this point. it is definitely interesting thatde these allegations are so salacious and so absolute horrible that people in epstein's circle fieldn immediately -- they immediately have the need to go out until the public that they knew nothing about this. certainly, we will probably not hear the last of these witnesses certainly, we will probably not hear the last of these witnesses >> laura: nicole, as we heard they seized a lot of records disks from his safe apparently that were individually labeled elincluding a lot of, you know appear to be underage girls labels and various ways, gross. that is clearly going to be, i would imagine, evidence of

something. i can't even think about it. that doesn't mean he's guilty if it's child pornography, he's guilty of something else correct? >> absolutely. ithy sounds absolutely disgustig and horrible based on what we've heard from the indictment. what we haven't seen is what they haveha actually collected. that is what the government hasa got tos do in court. the government now has to put up the evidence. they have to show the things they have said in this indictment. it's interesting to me that they have come out with such detailed information about the delegation before we have had a hearing in court. so we shall see. >> laura: we have to remember people are innocent until proven guilty, and a lot of prosecutors have come out with a u lot of bluster and then turned out to be back on their heels after a jury gets to hear the case. certainly hideous so far. nicole, thank you so much. we appreciate it. on what is supposed to be the most patriotic day of the year a starbucks employee asked arizona policemen to leave the store because a customer felt

unsafe. as the coffee giant tries to clean up their spill, is it enough? dan bongino next. are you a veteran, own a home, and need cash? you should know about the newday va home loan for veterans it lets you borrow up to 100 percent of your home's value. the newday va loan lets you refinance your mortgages, consolidate your credit card debt, put cash in the bank, and lower your payments over $600 a month. call today. and get the financial peace of mind every veteran deserves.

>> there was a customer that felt unsafe because there were soto many police officers inside the store. two of them are veterans. one of them having served over 20 years in the military. especially on july 4th, it was

pretty upsetting. unfortunately, this appears to be the new reality for law enforcement. >> laura: that was sergeant robert ferraro, president of the tempe officers association describing what his officers were kicked out of starbucks on july 4th. now the coffee giant is attempting a cleanup tonight. executive vice president roseanne william saying, "on behalf of starbucks, i want to sincerely apologize, they should have been welcome been treated with dignity, with the upmost respect, instead they were made to feel unwelcome and disrespected, which is clearly unacceptable." joining me now to react as dan bongino, former nypd officer bod fox news contributor along with jonathan harris. so dan, what does this do?er when i saw it on twitter this to over this weekend, i was so angry, i was like, we are not going to starbucks. let's have a conversation. they did come out quickly, did they not, to apologize? and their apology does seem sincere.

does that address the situation in your mind? >> well, listen, it is tough to say. we live in this snowflake culture now where i think the company needs to be a little bit more forthright. here is the reason for this laura. while this person had the right to be offended, starbucks had the right to turn around and say, we don't care that you are offended.. you don't like the sight of cops you run toward a problem when you are having one and running away from a problem, right? then get up, get out of this starbucks, and go find another spot. that we cater to this, i think they should have had a more forceful statement. having said that, it is one employee. i don't want to indict the whole company for the mistake of one employee. but even if you are a little bit confused about this, go ask a manager. hey, someone is complaining about the cops. let the manager tell the people to go pound sand. this is a really dumb decision. good for them for getting ahead of it.l

>> laura: i think the police officers should get free coffee free whatever they want. i'm sorry, what they put up with on a dailyou basis, i think they should be treated really well. there are bad cops -- but amazing work on 99.9%. jonathan, i want to ask you about this. because if this were a different person, type of person, kicked out or not allowed in, protected class to minority, like we saw in philadelphia where african-americans were treated poorly, and it was national outrage, and rightly so. in this case, we don't know who was the employee, what person was offended and why. it seems like an aggressive lack of curiosity. i'm glad that starbucks came out. if the shoe were on the foot and other groups of people were kicked out or made you feel unwelcome, the media would be all over this. but it's kind of fox and a few others. >> i feel like people are talking about it. "the new york times" is reporting that everybody involved was caucasian, i believe. that is what "the new york times" is reporting but we don't know. >> laura: i don't care what

color skin they were. i care about why they felt this way. were they disciplined? if not, why? >> i was looking at some of the data, and i was thinking to myself, the police on average according to reports n kill abot 1,000 people a year, since about 2015. it's been in the 900, 990s in some cases by the majority of them are white men. so i can understand, if there's a white guy, maybe him feeling a little uncomfortable -- >> laura: your answer to this starbucks thing is the police are killing people willy-nilly? >> no, i'm just saying that i can understand why that person may have felt uncomfortable. that is what i'm saying. >> laura: bongino -- dan bongino's going to flip. former police officer. the data indicates that people are -- jonathan is calm but he says the data indicate that people are rightly concerned.ar >> i don't care if he is calm. what he just said was so dumb that i'm stunned he said it on national television. >> are facts dumb? >> the worst day of a police

officer's life -- i was there. i am pretty sure jonathan wasn't. the worst day of your life is a use of force incident. number one, laura, because god forbid you have to use force. you think that is funny? a cop goes to -- i'm not done talking! ci'm not done talking! >> laura: 20 seconds, we are going to a hard break.ot >> you're probably going to get sued and lose your livelihood after youou unfortunately had to use force against another human being. >> laura:th check the numbers we'll have you both back. we got to do an hour on this. up next, inspiring patriotic displays you don't want to miss. stay there. ♪

>> just in time for last week independence day celebration, a poll came out that was pretty depressing. according to gallup, the number alof people who describe themselves as extremely proud t be in american was lower than i any time in that survey's history. and among democrats, that numbe was only 22 percent. i'm not sure you could find humor in those morons who dislike america, hate america, or hit heat her symbols, the flag, like this masked buffoon

from and tivoed that apparently didn't you learn how to use later in anarchy school bird that shouldn't obscure the true patriotism that we all witnesse during our independence day celebrations acrossss the count. for starters, the minnesota twins, paid to special tribute to world war ii vets including in a 94 -year-old fremont ross, he served with general george patton renowned third army. >> private first class u.s. army . staff sergeant u.s. army air corps. awarded the highest award given by the french president, he is 93. first lieutenant he turns 101 last month. it is an honor to stand with al of you today. >> oh my gosh, 101, and he stoo for the entire commemoration.

there was not a dry eye in the stadium. and then there is a viral video for young men with the group kings return while the internet with this incredibly moving rendition of god bless america. ♪ essinging i get teared up every time i se that, i think our family has maybe five or six times, are against it six now that we've seen it. there hiis this little two -year-old that melted with her adorable rendition of the national anthem.m. >> she knows the words better than a lot of americans.

amazing. fans went wild after the u.s. national women's soccer team nabbed the world cup title agai this weekend the players were obviously thrilled and deservedly so, so were millions of americans who watched, but a couple members of the team almost where their victory by dragging the american flag on the ground and dropping it at one point. one player smartly saved old glory y from that unfortunate desecration. many of the off the field headlines were generated by the women's team cocaptain who said she wouldn't go to the white house if invitedai, despite the barbs, president trump made sur to congratulate the women's tea on their big win as he well should have. in the end, all the didn't overwhelm trump salute d to america or the thousands of expressions of patriotism that we all saw. i hope we all celebrated ourselves with our own families across the land.at each one reminds us no matter

where we are, no matter what ou race, or creed, our origins, we are americans first in the spirit of liberty will always endure. tonight's last bite is next. .. and lower their payments by $600 every month.

>> >> time for the last bite. family and friends gathered on a beach in michigan to celebrate when they were greeted by a special visitor. watch. >> enjoying himself here in lake michigan. >> i thought it was really odd when the one young woman tried

to do that. you're going to get skin cancer, the cutest thing ever. have you ever had a dear? it is really cool? i have we have to pay tribute to ed henry, one of the greatest guys out there going in for surgery tomorrow, donating 30% of his liver to save his sister colleen's life, the ultimate selfless act, thanks for doing that. we are praying for you and your family. a new podcast tomorrow, shannon bream and the fox news that night year. didn't you like the deer? is the official listing ever showing up the beach? >> when i go out on runs in my neighborhood in a wooded area it is well populated but it includes dear. i don't want to scare them but i want to be friends. >> c if they keep pace with you. >> i will report back. we begin tonight with a fox news alert. former president bill clinton speaking out about high profile registered sex offender jerry epstein,