so, that is the story of this tuesday, july 23rd, 2019. but as always, the story goes on. we will be here to give it to you tomorrow morning, 8:00 a.m. eastern. to an end, bret baier and i live coverage of the mueller hearing. ♪ 's doing good evening. welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." tomorrow, the former special counsel robert mueller will spend the entire day testifying before congress. that means that for yet another 24 hours, our leaders will fixate on the virtually nonexistent threat we supposedly face from the government of russia. russia! it's a show of course, it's a diversion. but our news networks will dutifully amplify it anyway. they always do. turn on cnn or msnbc tomorrow it any point in the day and you will hear breathless covers of defense that contains precisely zero news. why are they doing this? why are they so anxious to make you care about something that's

entirely pointless? that has no effect on your life and never will? why? maybe so you won't notice what's actually happening in the rest of the country. things like this. >> all my god, they came over here, they violated. you know, they violated them. they violated them. oh, my god, . y'all get back in her car. they laughing at them. >> tucker: levity was real. it was taped on the grounds will neighborhood of new york city. it shows on my pd officers being attacked while attempting to do their jobs. remarkably, it wasn't the only time it happens. yesterday's just a few miles away in harlem, more officers were attacked. one was hit in the head with a bucket. watch this.

>> tucker: what are those videos? well, what you are really watching on the tape you just saw is a society unraveling. the men we have hired to maintain order and keep us safe or assaulted and humiliated. they could do nothing in response. they couldn't act because they know better than anyone what kind of government they work for. it's a government that favors criminals over society itself. bill de blasio runs the government in new york city, watching just a month ago, how he explains to us on the new york city cops are racist murderers. >> i also want to say that something that sets me apart from all of my colleagues running in this race and that is for the last 21 years, i've been raising a black son in america. and, i have had to have very, very serious talks with my son dante about how to protect himself on the streets of our city and all over this country, including how to deal with the fact that he has to take special caution because there have been too many tragedies between our

young men and our police as we saw recently in indiana. >> tucker: so it's easy to dismiss him as a buffoon because he has but if you are a new york city cop, you can't dismiss him. the nypd works for a bill de blasio. imagine hearing your own boss denounce you as a bigot on the basis of the zero evidence. no evidence whatsoever. what effects would that have? would it make you want to risk you like to do your job question mike would it convince you just to give up? you know the answer. you just saw the video. when cops give up like that, criminals thrive and that means that innocent people get hurt. something similar is happening in cities across the country viewed almost every democrat in the presidential race suddenly sounds just like bill de blasio. >> i have can challenge our can police department to challenge all the ways in which the uniform has been burdened by racism. we're going to crack down on police brutality and primarily people of color. >> training for police officers

on them elicit racial bias and procedural justice because to deny it exists is to deny folks liberty and in many cases, life. >> how do we continue to lose the lives of unarmed black men in the united states of america at the hands of white police officers? that is not justice. >> tucker: if you are young and black, you are treated differently because of the colof your skin. i don't believe that that's just the case of a few bad apples. i believe it's a system that is broken. >> tucker: they all say it would it with total confidence like they know it's troll and i've got the data to prevent but it's not true. did on the data. it's not alive. most cops are not racist and anyone who bothers to know anything about the subject knows that. in fact, just this week, new study, by researchers at michigan state university of maryland found no systemic racial bias at all in police. it turns out that whether cops are black or hispanic or white or asian or whatever, they have

the same likelihood of using force against a criminal suspect. in order to show bias, it turns out the shooting and closely matches the overall crime rate. and in the vast majority of police shootings, the criminal suspect was armed or otherwise to and appeared to pose a danger to police. now, obviously there are bad cops out there. of course. just as there are bad teachers out there and bad senators and an awful lot of bad lawyers but most cops are not bigots. it is just not true. there is no evidence of it. the lining law enforcement though so they do it. but the rest of us ought to be very worried. if you are over 40, you may remember this used to be a much more dangerous country than it is today. huge parts of urban america were uninhabitable because of crime. you never wondered why we built those sprawling servers everywhere? that's why we did it. because people were afraid to live in cities. and i could easily happen again.

and it may. people like people to judge -- cooked go to judges running around promising to cut it in half. martyrs, doesn't matter. they are out. cory booker meanwhile is promising to release a murderous drug lord calling him a nonviolent offender. every democratic candidate, notes sanctuary cities are everywhere in america. all of these are connected by a thread. they are all attacks on law and order but there is a deeper problem. what they really are our attacks on society itself. and they are having an effect. our biggest cities are now filled with filthy homeless camps. the bubonic plague has returned to los angeles for the first time since the conquistadors left. drugs are increasing in greater numbers. our schools are a joke. people can get married, buy homes, have kids, the tax increasingly controls what you do, what you see, we are allowed

to think about these or that some of the real problems that we face in this country. problems that challenge our future as a nation. they are not small things and yet, our leaders ignore them completely. to them, america has just two problems. russia and antiwhite racism. it's delusional. except, it's not really a delusion. it's a diversion. they are lying to us on purpose and hoping you won't notice. former new york city police minister joins us tonight. thanks very much for coming on. it's so you were a cow, ain't you supervise the police department in the united states, the largest one. when you see those videos of police officers being assaulted and walking back to their patrol cars or walking away, what does that tell you? >> you know what it reminds me of, tucker? and october, i think it was 1993, a copy new york city by the name of john williamson was hit in the head with a bucket

filled with spackle from a building and i've when i saw that cop get hit in the head with applique, and the cops get tossed with water, total disrespect. disregard for the police. i think of the david jenkins years. i think of the years that mothers had to put their young children in bathtubs worried about gunfire for coming in from outside. i think about the highest crime rates, the highest murder rates in the city of new york, in the country. rudy giuliani came along and change that and you know what? bill de blasio is a worse mare than david dinkins. those cops walked away yesterday because they knew they would not be supported, they would not be indemnified by the city, by a mayor that despises cops and tells his son to look out for cops. the city is completely

imploding, in my opinion and all because of bill de blasio. and it's not only happening in new york city. it's happening all over the country. it's happening in california, and it's happening in portland, oregon, it's happening all over the country where you have democratic left wing lunatic or liberal mayors and governors who are letting people go out there and do what they want. >> tucker: how long before crime rates start to really spike? >> welcome at this point you will see that start to happen because there is lawlessness in the street. when stuff like this happens, it emboldens the thugs. and then, you have a mayor that villain eyes is the police and basically victimizes the thugs and when that happens, the thugs are going to get right in the forefront, they are going to go out and do things they shouldn't be doing. this is minor stuff but it's a demonstration of what happens when people have no respect for law.

>> tucker: how is it a civil rights victory when people in poor neighborhoods can't go to the grocery store at night or when grocery stores won't open? you >> keep in mind, from 1990 to 1994, when we had the highest crime rates in new york city, people can go anywhere. and giuliani came in in 1994 and said look, nobody wants to work, visit, live, or go to school in a place where they are not safe and as long as it's not safe, the city will implode. for every percentage points we reduce crime and murder in new york city, i could show you increases in economic development, and real estate value, in tourism, reductions in welfare rolls. it's -- you know, what's going on in new york city is the beginning of a turnaround to the demise of new york city and it's all because of one guy, mayor bill de blasio. >> tucker: what a sad story that is. great to see you tonight. thank you very much for that. >> thank you, sir.

>> tucker: so, the first step to act passed not long ago and was signed. it is now law. it has some bipartisan support. we are told at the time that that the first step act was prison reform and it would only benefit nonviolent offenders. watch. >> the only caveat and the only focus on individuals who are nonviolent offenders. >> you mention that this is only for nonviolent offenders. can you tell our audience the important distinguish men spoofing nonviolent and violent offenders? >> sure. these are individuals who may have been locked up but don't have direct victims who may have lost their life or were murdered or harmed from the act of the crime. >> tucker: so, we were surprised last week, late last week when we were handed information by someone in the

administration, and the trust administration, that show that hundreds of people who committed violent offenses, robbery, assault, gun charges, explosive charges, offense, even murder, have been released thanks to the law. that's not what we expected at all. that's not what we were told was going to happen. if reporting got the attention of the white house and they asked to have someone come on and discuss that. were always happy to do that. it john smith was the person you saw in the clip moments ago. thanks very much for coming on. >> thank you so much for having me. >> tucker: it's our pleasure. there seems to be a disconnect between what you said in the tape that we just showed, that this would apply only to nonviolent criminals, and the numbers that we got last night from someone in the administration showing that hundreds of violent criminals have been released. what are we to make of this? >> sure appeared what you heard me discuss was talking about system reform specifically but the first step act wasn't

passed. the same population that you talked about last night would still become coming home in a couple weeks because current law allows for them to these are people have turned their life around and that expands to the whole prison population. that current law kurt still exists and so, the first step act actually focuses on what happens when they come home. when the individuals come home, what are we going to do? because the status quo hasn't worked in a lot of these people end up turning back to crime and creating career criminal so the first step act, what it does is focus on people being a model citizen when they return home and actually helping improve their community and community safety. that's why i am like prole law enforcement groups support appears to be when i certainly agree with you that it would be nice to get people in in their release doing something useful. i think we are all for that. but, i'm confused by the

explanation. so, you said that the law would not hasten the release of violent offenders but it has. and if that's not a big deal, why did we have to find that from the eight and administration? why were these releases in a press release that you guys issue question mike >> we are talking about good time credit. what i'm trying to tell you but as a part of current law. what congress didn't do was they clarified what they did do that portion of the law by allowing for individuals who are people who turn their life around to be able to get out through the good time credit provision 54 days or 57 days. that's a clarification from congress with the g.o.p. administrators had proactively interpreted that law differentl differently. >> tucker: not to interrupt you but, okay. we just put on the screen and press release that you guys issued bragging about these

releases. so, if, there it is right there. if the releases had nothing to do with the first step act, i'm confused why there is a press release saying that they are the result of the person act. we will let me clarify again. this law currently exist. under current law, individuals are able to earn good time off is their model prisoners. the first step act clarified dialogue. there was some confusion on jewel person owns 37 days versus 54 days so what we're talking about is on average people getting 54 days early but that was current law. so, what we want to do is create an environment where people are not referrers returning to prison. >> tucker: it's hard to know exactly but it does seem like in some places they are rising and

letting people out of prison is one of the fastest ways we know, from long experience, to make crime rates rise so you can see where we would be nervous about it, no? >> i can understand that. some of of the things we used s scare tactics but the truth of the matter is, this followed conservative states like texas, like georgia, where we have seen governor. actually reform the system by empowering these individuals to be productive citizens once they get out by partnering with nonprofits, faith groups, restoring the families, they were not able to only closed prisons but they were actually able to lower the crime rates and so, this president supported the first step act because it lowers crime rates. it stops people from coming out of prison prison and then returning. we know that 50%, 50% of individuals were boats that go to prison return back to prison and 90% of the people who aren't in prison are going to get out someday so the first step act has taken a smart approach from conservative states that we've

got to focus on reducing the crime rates throughout the country by empowering individuals to come home and be productive citizens of society. >> tucker: okay peer people have been thinking about this stuff for 400 years and no one has ever figured out a way across the board to reduce citizen rates but if you guys have, that's great. i just want to make sure that the public is being educated properly. >> it is. it is. >> tucker: thanks for joining us tonight. i appreciate that. there's new evidence tonight that jim called jim comey spent his final days running the fbi lying to the president and spying on the president. what is our reveal about the mueller investigation and our bureaucracy? after the break. ms. gomez: ♪ y shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago.

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>> tucker: president trump fire jim comey in doing that was the original justification of robert mueller's investigation. democrats told us the firing was obstruction of justice but now, more than a year later, we are learning more details. an upcoming investigative report could reveal that comey was lying to the president and spying on the president. just before. fox chief intelligent correspondent, catherine herridge has more for us tonight. >> thanks. our sources could not end up in only confirm the real clear investigations report. james comey also tried building a conspiracy case against the president using a standard postelection intelligence briefing to gather information on mr. trump. significantly exit the alleged

use of briefings first came to light in april when fox news broke the story that text messages between then fbi agent peter strzok and an fbi lawyer lisa page show they also discussed using a similar briefing using the m coming vice president, mike pence to identify sources inside the white house, to track length of question, and assessed aminos. fox news got those text messages to the vice president's office where the vice president responded he was cool, deeply offended to learn to disgrace agents considered infiltrating his team. meantime, two sources close to the process the justice department inspector michael lee horwitz may not be ready to release his report into alleged surveillance abuse and targeting of the trump campaign until september after key witnesses including the author of anti-trump dossier came forward at the 11th hour, tucker. >> tucker: spewing catherine he. great to see you tonight. thank you for that. >> you're welcome. >> tucker: well, former executive's assistant director of the fbi and he joins us

tonight to unravel some of the mysteries that arise based on what you just heard from catherine herridge. things very much for coming on. so, if it is true that the head of the fbi was spying on boss, the president, almost immediately after the inauguration, would there be a justification for that? would that be illegal? is there a precedent for it? what's your take? >> there's absolutely no precedent for it. it would be difficult to overstate how egregious and a violation and probably several criminal statutes that type of operation would be without predication. in this case, you know, assuming these two sources are correct, i don't see any predication whatsoever and certainly no documentation of it intelligence assessment as coming just got it described in his quote. for a politically inquiry end of one investigation. those are the only three types

of investigations there are. so there would have had to vent some sort of document and predication for him to do that. >> tucker: if that existed, if the documents that justified that existed, we would know, right? >> right. i read the article, it sounds like a rogue operation on the part of the fbi director. if it's true. i mean, i thought all along that the deputy director mccain's initiation of an investigation out of the deputy director's office was thoroughly unprecedented and the deputy director should not be running any investigation whatsoever and the director himself should not be operational in any investigation. so, it's hard to remember all of the things that are wrong with the things that are described in this article. again, assuming the two sources are true. >> tucker: but as someone who is spent a lot of time in management at the fbi, you've see events and your first bizarre is it is bizarre and

rotten? >> you can't make this out. this is about as shady as it gets. we know, at least myself and many of my former colleagues and current fbi agents who i hear from think that jim comey and his inner circle were just off making their own set of rules, doing their own thing, for their own personal reasons. primarily because they just just like the president. that's not how it works, of course, as you well know. >> tucker: yeah. i mean, i grew up getting lectures from liberals about jay advert cougar and that's how he went bad. >> anything j. edgar hoover was accused of is apparel in comparison to this. this was an inner circle of self-appointed moral guardians who were taking over the presidency and trying to take it down for their own personal reasons. i don't even think it was political. i think they just personally just like the president as part of that inner circle.

speak i mean, you know. the democracy is fake when things like this happen. obviously. but thanks very much for your perspective. it's shocking. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: every day more questions arise about the path that ilhan omar and she won't answer any of the questions. minnesota lawmakers say it is time for a full investigation. did she lie in order to get here from somalia? we should know that. plus, that a transgender activist says it's human right to have other people touch her genitals paid we are not making that up. that story from canada will shock you. the cutting edge of progressive justice. stay tuned for details. ♪

>> tucker: here's a weird story out of canada which used to be a boring country. businesses are shut down, being dragged by courts, having their lives destroyed. why is this happening?

you guessed, racism, no. it's radical gender activist. jessica you need is a biological man who identifies as a transgender woman. to make a political point, she has been traveling across brick it is columbia visiting salons that provide bikini waxing. the only problem is, she has male genitalia so some of the people who work at the salon refused to waxing. some have religious reasons others were too uncomfortable to hear about in canada, doesn't matter. the to punish them. she is taking those and claim it as a human right to make another person touch your private parts so far, the canadian government agrees that yaniv is when he peered one women had to close her business following the complaint viewed another, single and moderate, paid her $2500 simply to go away. one journalist was covering was banned from twitter simply for observing the truth that yaniv is in fact, biological mail which is true. why is all this happening?

well, it's hard not to include the obvious because canada is a sick society. only a society that hates itself would allow itself to be bullied by someone like jessica you need. hopefully america will never reach that point but many nubile are doing their best to make sure that we do. we should resist that if we can. congresswoman ilhan omar continues to be a walking indictment of america is in priorities. in a tweet last night, she said that america isn't doing enough to help illegal immigrants give free abortions. for real. that's the problem that needs solving. who is going to pay for that? we need to. taxpayers for a while, she has many things to say about that though. omar has almost nothing to say about her own past. she refuses to answer questions about a few questions that involve serious questions. tax fraud, perjury, possibly even a marriage to her brother. steve just because he is a republican state representative in minnesota. earlier today, he formally requested that how the essex committee would launch a full

investigation into congresswoman omar's past. representative dress cassie joins us tonight. representative, thanks so much for coming on. so, what don't we know, what does the congresswoman still refused to answer? well, she refuses to answer everything from her siblings are up to details about her immigration documents that she has shown briefly to one reporter on her phone, anything that you ask her about or that people ask her about, she simply just ignores or may call you a racist. >> tucker: well, she will definitely call her a racist. she has made a career of that. in fact, i would say that has been the engine of her political career but this is not a crackpot theory. it is not reverse wisdom. there are serious questions about whether or not she committed immigration fraud and then committed perjury and then lying about it.

why wouldn't law enforcement agencies be looking into that? >> obsolete. that's what we want them to do. as a matter of fact, today we held a press conference in order to ask the u.s. house ethics committee to investigate this and get to the bottom of it. we also launched a website, a citizen petition at omar truth.com to engage citizens to hold congress accountable so that they can investigate and ad the coverups that were seen by representative omar. >> tucker: i mean, let me ask you this. if she were not a famous member of congress, how hard would it be to get law enforcement to investigate these questions, given the amount of evidence that she committed perjury and fraud? >> the evidence is in huge piles now. it's not being refuted by the left or by the mainstream media. the fact-checkers have not come out and said this stuff isn't accurate. it hasn't happened because, it is. the information that david

steinberg and others put together is very compelling. there are public documents that are filed that show that she committed perjury. eight times. not to mention, the tax fraud stuff that we found were working hard to bring this to light. i appreciate your help, mr. steinberg, and we did our bit today to bring forward this to the house ethics committee because we think they need to ask. we encourage citizens to get behind it. there is a citizen petition at omar truth.com. >> tucker: she is a liar. appeared in income and she's clearly lame. she said she married" her faith tradition but the records say she was made by a christian. she's a muslim. so there is a repeat here and it's not just a question of ethics, it's a question of law spirit she is an immigrant to the contribute she clearly violated her immigration law and she lied about it. >> she does not have respect for our laws and it's actually great disdain for our loss and that's what we are seeing.

the end justifies the means for representative omar. that's what we've seen over again with all the campaign finance stuff. that's what we have seen with the coverups she's done around her sham marriage and each time she has to cover it up in order to get where she wants to go. >> tucker: that's exactly right. and the left certainly does its best to cover that outcome is always. thanks for joining us tonight. i appreciate >> thank you. >> tucker: meanwhile, here's the case of another lawmaker, erika thomas, tripling down tonight on her fake hate crime. she now says insulting her should be a criminal offense. it should be a crime to insult her. and she's not joking. that story, straight ahead. ♪

>> tucker: last week

senator josh hawley spoke to the national conservative phone conference in washington. he gave it great speech. it's smart and interesting credits on laying on it if you like to watch it. naturally because the speech was effective, the left is coming out of the woodwork to accuse him of crime think. but now saying he is in anti-semites. anti-semite? why? because during his speech, he accurately described america's elite as being globalist cosmopolitans with no real attachment to because of america. they are. nope everybody knows that. no one thinks holly is an anti-semite. if the day, they probably would've been upset a few years ago when president obama said this. >> it should be noted that this new international elite, the professional class that supports them, difference in respects from the ruling aristocracy. a deeper percentage consider themselves liberal politics. modern cosmopolitans.

>> tucker: it was true when obama said it. it was true and senator holly says it. thanks for coming on. so, did we miss described that? you are being called an anti-semites for describing many of our elites as not attached to united states. >> i guess that's right there what i've learned is that when it comes to liberals, there's only one thing that they love more than being elitist and that is accusing everybody else of being bigots. in order to shutdown speech, in order to diss and value of the beauty of the american people. they say the you are a bigoted, racist, because they don't want to admit what they've done. i don't want a new admit what their policies have done here at shipping jobs overseas, hurting working families, keeping wages flat for decades, that's their legacy and it's time that they owned it. >> tucker: so what you are saying is, they use cries of bigotry as a diversion to keep you occupied on the defense that you won't notice how badly they

have dismantled the country. >> it is strange that when you point out out that barack obama makes the same point that in international elite, that's his word, because much politician in their outlook, who are increasingly disconnected, the eagles on that same speech to say there is no way to disconnected from national feeling and increasingly disconnected from the workers who actually make the products that they depend on who actually built this country. that's precisely what i said. but the left can't take that. they can't be put on the spot and they don't want to be called out as elitists that they truly are and they don't want to be put on the spot for their failed policies that have hurt this country, that of her at the workers of this country, and they don't have anything to offer and so all we get is well, you are a bigot, you are a racist, as they try to distract from their failures. >> tucker: what is suddenly interesting as the left is in the defensive their prerogative prerogatives. you are saying those people

deserve no attention and stop criticizing george soros to because i guess he can't be criticized. is that we are, you think? >> it totally is a leap with the liberals are the parties of the elites. they are the ruling class. they are the ruling class. they have been for decades. they controlled the demanding heights in this country, the media, the big multinational corporations, our universities, i mean, they've effectively run the countries, the liberals have, for decades now and their consensus has given us whe have today. to me, they are the ones who are responsible for jobs off shoring, they are the ones responsible for wages flat, for the plate and struggle of working americans. you know, working americans, ordinary americans and the place of where i grew up in rural missouri, they just want somebody to speak for them and to be constantly told that they are bigots and they are racists and their allies don't matter, their views are met, they are tired of that. >> tucker: well, you clearly are. very quickly, did it ever occur to you to put your head down -- coming, they basically hate you right in the face rhetorically

the sucking you gave a speech. you don't seem intimidated. do you ever pause and say oh, it's not working? >> no, because i knew as soon as they were mad that we hit the track. i knew that what we said was right and i'm more determined than ever to speak up for the people who don't have a voice, who have been ignored by the elite for too long and who, by the way, are the backbone of this country. >> tucker: amen. so nicely put. good for you. godspeed, senator. thank you. america's ruling class is constantly denouncing this country as a racist. there's only one problem, it's not true. most americans aren't racist. they are really nice people so the evidence of actual racism is getting harder to find. instead, they fall for racial fate hoax and they make them up, disseminate them, amplify them, the latest example comes from the state of georgia very late last week, erika thomas said she was told to quote go back where you came from and that she was marked to check ou

out. >> to for her to follow him where i should go back to her ache came from because i had a couple of items and he wanted to get in front of me, what would make you that angry? >> tucker: of course, the press love to this because it and bolsters every preconception they have ever had. it bolsters their bigotry. another racist trump supporter on the list. actually, it turns out the man that was apparently accusing erica sparks is not only cuban, he was a liberal. came forward and called her story a total lie. watch this. >> she said a few words. i stated you are a selfish little bit chp it i did say that. that's all i said after that and i walked out. her words stayed on twitter and her video saying i told her she needs to go back where she came from our own true. i am white but i am cuban.

i was raised with a cuban family that didn't speak any english. facebook, i will make it public, proven facts. all my statements are anti-trum anti-trump, anti-republican, antiracism, anti-bigotry. this lady does not know me. she is using this to get on camera for political purposes. >> tucker: i hate tron. stop calling me a racist! that's his defense. something sounds like he's telling the truth though. if he continues to try to defend himself, promise kept harassing him here to watch this. >> you know i come had 11 items. i had 11 items. i have my receipt. i have my receipt. it doesn't matter if i had any items. you cannot tell a woman -- -- i told you that -- i told you that. i don't care. you are a lazy son of a pitch. that's what you said.

three when she later admitted that she was lying. she said that sparks never said the thing she may shoot it in she said beer and her lawyer now says, brace yourself for this, that sparks should face criminal charges for saying mean things to thomas. watch this. >> they believe the incident was racially motivated and wants sparks to face charges. >> this individual violated the law by praising her in reasonable fear of receiving a violent injury. that is a crime in the state. stu and dave rubin holds the rubin report on youtube and enjoy and sustain. dave, clarify this if you what. i did so, right? but you can be criminally prosecuted for insulting a lawmaker in this country? >> from now on and when i come to your show, can we put a title underneath that just says this is completely bananas because every time i come on i think well, it can get crazier, i can get more bananas and it does.

i mean, this is just patently absurd at every level whatsoever. any and first off, you may have heard the story of the boy who cried wolf, i think we all grew up with that story. we know it was in the time of the politician who cried racism. i mean, they are using false cries as the senator correctly pointed out in the previous statement, they are using the false crimes of racism to sal and everyone peered i was in los angeles could have your been to a whole foods where you walk into the express line and you have one thing over? most likely someone is going to scream at you and it has nothing to do with their race or your race but if you really want to see how clinician sonny pollitt check is, it is that the gentleman there had to go back and in private say that he is not even white beard and a way, he was using i didn't he politics because he is really human and that should then create a forward force field around him. this is a set of ideas that is doomed to implode on top of itself and we have to call it

out and just a shout out senator holly again, i think your question is right which is what you do when you know this is happening to you? you must punch back and these false cries of racism, they only work if we give them power and a story like this and to the idea that now she's getting the legal system involved, they had a little personal privates bad over how many items can go in the certain lane. that's it. there was nothing racially here, he obviously did not tell her to go back where she came from, which would be pretty incredible in and of itself and that we are all talking about that this week because of ilhan omar and trump so we just need to keep calling these things out because eventually, they will run out of steam. >> tucker: yeah. and shame will be reintroduced to the public conversation. i would be nice. i would deftly enjoy that. dave rubin, thank you for the clarity. >> thanks, my friend. >> tucker: elizabeth warren is out on the record telling people

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>> tucker: elizabeth warren often describes herself as a champion of the underdog peered for example, 1990, a chemical was hamlet came up with losses when women said they were poison by the plan. one woman was involved in that case and in hurtling, she helped thousands of women gain compensation for mistreatment by the corporate giant. if it's her story perfectly. as it turns out, that's not tru true. just like her cherokee heritage, it was completely laid out. warren wasn't fighting for women, she was fighting on the half of dow chemical, turns out. professor of cornell law school, he published legal insurrection which first broke the story and it joins us tonight.

thanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: she has been very clear, i thought for women against dow chemical. what actually happened? >> that's right. this first came up in 2002, 2012 during her senate campaign when her legal practice this first came up in 2002, 2012 during her senate campaign when represented several major corporations against consumers and it became an issue in the campaign. it was raised by scott brown. including her representation of travels in true insurance regarding asbestos workers. on the eve of the debate, she released to "the boston globe" a list of 13 cases she was involved in to try to absolve herself of having then essentially representing corporate america against consumers but she conveniently left off one key case she was involved and which was the breast implant litigation against dow and dow chemical, its parent corporation. i discovered that case and brought it forward in her immediate reaction was, as you indicated, she was trying to

help the women get money which was preposterous. she was representing dow chemical, the parent corporation of the breast implant manufacturer which was vigorously fighting any claim of liability and she was representing them at that time and advising them so it was nothing to suggest that she actually was trying to help the women. there is everything to suggest that she was actually fighting it and fast-forward to 2019, "the washington post" just completed an investigation which confirmed exactly what i was saying. which is that, she was not attempting to help the women, she was fighting against the women and in fact, they interviewed people who were involved who said that she was on the wrong side of the table. so this is another example of elizabeth warren not being -- not having live the life she demands others live. she vilified the corporation, she does all of those sort of

things yet, she represented dow chemical and many others. there is nothing illegal about representing dow chemical or big corporations against consumers and certainly, if she's playing the role, she's obligated to do a good job for them. but why is she portraying it as something other than what it was and why is she vilifying these corporations? >> tucker: i'll tell you exactly why. because elizabeth warren representing big corporations against consumers is like peto running a slaughterhouse. it's the exact opposite of what she is promising. i mean, it's like a full inversion. it's bewildering and if it hadn't been for your piece, i wouldn't have known about it and i don't think our viewers would have either. you really done a service in bringing that to the forefront. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> tucker: we are out of time unfortunately we will be back tomorrow night, apn to show the sworn and totally sincere enemy of lying, and groupthink, a

reminder for my producers to dvr that if you can figure it out. and if you can't, no need to go to college. you passed the only task that matters. in the meantime, have a great evening. i've got news for you, sean hannity, live from new york tonight. >> sean: yes, tucker. we are live from new york as usual. great soul. buckle out, welcome to be 19 because we are less than 12 hours away, robert mueller's public testimony is coming. we will get some questions answered the witch hunt. the breathless reporting has become the look who's running the show. the cowardly, adam schiff, jerry nadler, two of the biggest liars in congress hyping tomorrow's hearing is a major turning point in their fraudulent two and a half year witch hunt against the president, for separate conclusions, for separate investigations. they have lied again and again pray they have presented what is nothing short of a hoax. multiple conspiracy theories, made fal