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dog. the dog is white with blue eyes. can't we just be happy an 8-year-old kid is happy? we will never be the media mob. don't miss tomorrow night. let not your heart be troubled. laura ingraham is here. >> laura: i've got to say i want to be surprised by that reaction, but i'm not. if ivanka had gotten a brown or black dog, she would have been criticized for that, for dominating a dog that's black. do you know what i mean? she can't win back no matter what she does. >> sean: does that mean anything? my dog is a bernese mountain dog. mostly black, white. >> laura: very progressive of you. >> sean: progressive? i just like a big, beautiful dogs. i don't really care, just like i love people. i don't care who they are or where they came from. >> laura: do you have a designer dog? you used to have the cotton balm dog. what was it called? it was a beautiful dog. i loved that dog.
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the dog was the cutest dog. puffball? what was the name? >> sean: snowball, the dog's name was snowball. snowball died. i miss snowball. >> laura: i had a bigger dog than snowball. ade picture of you with the leash and the pearl collar on snowball. >> sean: you know, i'm going to start introducing the ever so sarcastic hannity-bashing wannabe. you are muellering me? >> laura: you had a phenomenal show. >> sean: she ends it with a compliment, so i can't -- >> laura: you had a great show on mueller. can't wait to see what happens. >> sean: don't miss tomorrow. it's going to be even better. you're going to have a great show. >> laura: you take care. i am laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" from washington. last night we were the first to show you the disgraceful videong of nypd officers being doused with water.
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tonight we have even more to show you. plus, generation g.ou you know that is? generation grievance. we have a new culture that's been completely enveloped by the left. we brought you one example from one georgia representative last night. tonight we bring you the update with the story and more. candace owens is here. only hours until mueller's capitol hill testimony. is it going to deliver some big exciting news for us or a big snoozer? alan dershowitz is here with some disappointing news for democrats. you want to tune in for that. but first, the culture of disrespect. that's the focus of tonight's angle. last night we were the first to bring you this disturbing video that sent shock waves through the american law enforcement community and beyond.
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disgusting and depressing. but this is not an isolated incident. this is what everyone has to understand. this is just the latest in a long line of examples thatat demonstrates a growing disrespect for the people and principles that most americans still hold dear. since we showed you that awful video last night, another shocking incident surfaced from harlem, as officers there attempted to make an arrest. >> oh! >> laura: their reactions to these kinds of attacks was fierce, as you heard right here on "the ingraham angle." >> it makes me sick. >> to our friends in new york, if you don't take care of your cops, shame on you. >> it wouldn't happen if we didn't have a progressive retro-gressive mayor in new york city who is destroying the quality of life.
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he's a disgrace. >> laura: some in the community were still willing to downplay it. >> it seemed like the officers w are okay with a little water street fun. people had water balloons and they were dousing each other. it's not uncommon. >> laura: unbelievable. just like there were some folks who didn't bat an eye hearing things like this. >> [chanting] b >> pigs in a blanket. >> [chanting] >> laura: that was during the obama years. the disrespect of the police has been building since the height of the anti-vietnam war movement. it was during the chaos outside 1968 democratic convention in chicago when protesters began using the term pig to describe
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police officers. >> the youth international party, they converged on chicago. they said they were there to protest the war, povertyty racism, and other social ills. some of them were also determined to provoke a confrontation. >> laura: well, of course the disrespect of our military vets followed when they return from overseas. >> we did what we were asked to do. a lot of people didn't like it. there was a lot of flak about it. when we came back, we were spit on and called baby killers. we did what we felt we needed to do for our country. >> laura: god bless him. president reagan brought us morning in america and he helped inspire a new generation of young patriots who were eager to turn the page on thatew unfortunate chapter. of course that didn't stop the left. they had already burrowed into our colleges and universities spreading the view that reagan was just a warmonger and america was an evil imperialist force.
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all the while, the entertainment industry was doing its part slowly but surely ridiculing and demonizing and disrespecting republican presidents and the office of the presidency. the disrespect reached every aspect of popular culture, as filmmakers and producers pretty much ridiculed everything about traditional american values and replace them with something more progressive or to many of us or regressive. public and private school began to disrespect america's founding by teaching a watered-down version of history approved byea the politically correct sensors. the study of great books by old white racist men, that was out. and the radical people's history of the united states was in. so after all these years later shouldn't really come as a surprise when four freshmen, congresswomen equate the crisis
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of the border to one of history's greatest atrocities? >> the united states is running concentration camps on our southern border. >> alexandria ocasio-cortez, at the border with you, comparing the facilities to a concentration camp. do you agree with thatac comparison? >> absolutely. >> there are camps and people are being concentrated. very simple. >> laura: this just isn't a garden-variety case of historical illiteracy. no, no, no, no. we've also seen a disrespect of art. history itself too in a full sweep as statues and markers the people had walked by and driven by for decades being ripped down because someone somewhere called them offensive. even the american flag is disrespected, a reprieve from the 1960s, and the national anthem which we all once stood for, is now a point itself, of controversy.
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sit it out and you're a hero. question the kneelers and you're a villain. if we don't respect ourselves our traditions, and our history we came to expect our young people or frankly visitors to our country to respect them either. >> you know this is a memorial for the soldiers, right? do you speak english? it's a memorial for the soldiers. it's not for swimming. >> laura: that was actually at. the world war ii memorial here in washington, d.c. a year or so ago, people swimming, not really knowing what it is, treating it like it at the beach, commemorating of course all those who sacrifice for our liberty in world war ii. unbelievable. also let's face it. many don't respect the need to protect innocent life. unborn or even after they're born. >> the bill is passed.
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>> laura: and we don't respect each other. even in front of children and onlookers. >> [shouting] >> laura: too many don't respect the men and women of i.c.e. or the border patrol many of whom are hispanic, by the way. also in uniform, 99.5% of them doing their best under extremely difficult circumstances. >> i think abolish i.c.e. is a call to action on several levels. i >> need to abolish i.c.e. and end all inhumane deportation programs. >> abolishing i.c.e. protect my family from the militarization of its happening in neighborhoods. >> laura: this into the wordsth of disrespect. this isn't minor criticism of the government or even vigorous criticism of the government. it's a wholesale effort to burn it down.
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and lord knows that on social media we don't respect each other at all. democrats and we republicans can all do better. but back to how we started, howd we treat the men and women in uniform.k many black americans believe that they are unfairly targeted by police, and many police officers believes they are unfairly targeted too. they are just trying to do their jobs. and this is how things end up. young men sitting in a car laughing at what they think is the humiliation of police officers who are doing everything they could, their jobs, knowing they'll post the video, you bet. it will get them a lot of likes and maybe some more yuks. no wonder so many cities are having trouble recruiting police today. would you subject yourself to
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this abuse day in and day out? perhaps it was mike huckabee last night who said it best. >> and there's a crime in the neighborhood, call on somebody with a water hose.es see how that works out for you. >> laura: respect and the lack of it.ut that's the angle. joining me now with reaction nypd sergeant and president of new york city's sergeant's benevolent association and mark fuhrman, fox news contributor and former l.a.p.d. detective. good to have you on tonight. you heard the angle. you have spoken with police in the precinct who have direct knowledge of what's going on. now, what was going through the officers' heads when this was all happening? >> hello.ad >> laura: go ahead. i'm saying what was going through their heads? >> what was going to their heads, we had a police commissioner several years ago send officers to enforce minor
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crime about cigarettes. two and a half years ago we had a sergeant involved in a shooting. shot at a 66-year-old woman who swung at his head with a baseball bat. the commissioner condemned it. we've seen the commissioner did not get any support from the department. the officers that are out there on patrol, officers having the water thrown on them are indecisive in terms of what they should do and do they have the backing of the nypd. going to make an arrest in this -- any individuals fell and cracked their head, we hear the media and other people in the public saying it's minor crimes and all of a sudden everything would turn against these officers. there's no leadership in thein nypd. this has been a problem. we've had three copsps assassinated, several cops killed, numerous cops shot. there's no leadership in the nypd.
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and none coming from city hall. i am asking the police commissioner o'neill with empathy in my heart, you've lost the confidence of the nypd members and to please resign. in the interest of public safety in the interest of -- >> laura: it can't continue. >> it's time for you to move on. >> laura: this cannot continue. >> i am asking mayor de blasio to make one good decision in your mayoral term and remove the police commissioner. >> laura: well, that's not going to happen. >> he's lost the confidence of the nypd. >> laura: let's go to mark fuhrman. i wouldn't hold my breath abouth de blasio doing the right thing. if anything, he will condemn the police for not giving the people who are laughing a soft drink or something. i don't know. he's not doing anything. mark, you take issue with the fact that at the moment, at that time, the police didn't do anything. aren't they damned if they and damned if they don't. >> if you feel that way, you need a new job.
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there's never been a time when politicians or chiefs or captains or even lieutenants are going to be at a scene and actually agree with what actually needs to be done. they usually hesitate. the perfect example is anyny demonstration. we watch in portland. we watch it in new york. we watch in los angeles. times are changing because they are hesitating to engage. these two officers looked ridiculous in what they did. as soon as they were assaulted they have the suspect in the car. they should have put out an assistance call. they should have turned andd actually engaged the suspect. if they get into an altercation that's fine. if they have to use their tasern that's fine. if they have to use force other than that, that's fine because the next officer that goes in that neighborhood, maybe he'll get a bucket of paint. maybe a bucket of bleach. maybe even some acid. this is a job that is tough, and if you're not willing to engage -- this wasn't a decision by
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somebody in an ivory tower. this wasn't a captain's decision or police commissioner. this was the two officers on the street. they were in charge of the situation, and they did nothing. >> laura: yeah, it's got to be incredibly demoralizing for police officers and i knowow talking to a number of them over the last 24 hours, since we were the first to put this video on national tv, they are infuriated across a number of different issues. late tonight, nypd releasedd pictures of three of the suspects in these water attacksp also nypd is notifying officers about the charges that can be brought against these thugs, so it's exactly what former nypd commissioner bernie kerik told us last night. watch. t >> obstruction, disorderly conduct, harassment, number of other charges but they won't be charged because you have a mayoe in new york city -- >> laura: he's a disgrace. what chance do they have of
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catching and charging these guys and do you agree with mark fuhrman's analysis that ass tough as this job is, if the officers don't want to engage on the scene, they should no longer be police officers and go into a different line of work. god bless them. >> there's a partial truth to what mark is explaining but mark comes from a different time. back when police were supported and there were no cameras that were being stuck in everybody's faces. when i highlight the pantaleo effect, the officers enforcing minor crimes of loose cigarettes, where's the backing? it's easy for us to say what officers should do but we are not the ones who are there when it happens and we are the ones getting indicted because of public outcry over nonsense. it's easy to be opinionated from one side but mark and i both come from different time periods, and i'm still there and i see what's occurring in policing today. >> laura: mark, respond. >> well, i mean, that's all well
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and good but i can remember many times that i wasn't supported by the chief of police on down because we actually engage multiple people that were trying to assault us, rocks, bottles gunshots. we still engaged. we called for assistance, and yes, it got ugly. but you didn't lose your ground and you didn't walk away with your tail between your legs. if you're going to do that, give up the streets. the next time somebody -- >> we are now promoting videos of basically karaoke singing contests. we've gone from enforcement we've gone from a paramilitary organization to feel good and we spend energy and millions of dollars on creating a feel-good to the point where officers are getting indicted for nonsense and are not getting the backing of the nypd. >> laura: hold on a second. hold on. i want to put this full-screen up.
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look at what this current atmosphere has done to recruitment of police officers. check it out. nypd recruitment is down, down down. only 330 people as of april 2019. look at where it was in july of 2017. 524. january 2018 they did pretty well but it doesn't look so good right now, mark. what's next for recruitment? they can hire police officers in places like new orleans the last time i checked.ic other places across the country same thing. >> there's certain places where the law enforcement should be at the high standards. los angeles, new york, it should be a few other cities. the heart of the matter is leadership. if you don't have a good leader it doesn't matter what people in the community think law enforcement should be. a good leader will give them the law enforcement that they need.
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if you are going to engage with bad actors on the street, you need to engage. if you don't, we're not going to worry about an officer getting indicted.. somebody's going to get killed. suspects are going to get killed, and officers are going to get killed. this is just one step. the next one will be more than water. i because they got away with it. >> laura: the disrespect of the police and for each other, i mean, it is all ridiculous at this point. gentlemen, fantastic conversation. no one else having this on television tonight. thank you so much. last night we told you about erica thomas, the georgia state rep, who claims a white man harassed her in the supermarket. there's more to that story then you know. candace owens is here to explain it all. need cash?
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>> laura: last night i showed you how the left ate up another potential racial situation, ended up being a racial hoax we think. this one from georgia state lawmaker erica thomas. after their dishonest spin fell apart when thomas' alleged harasser turned out to be a cuban democrat, who doesn't like trump, part of the anti-trump resistance, it turns out thomas changed her story. yesterday thomas changed her story back again. if you are confused, so are we.
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>> i want to make sure that everyone knows that in any way am i backtracking on my statement or my retracting anything i anything i said, when he said and made reference to go back to where you came from, he said it right after he said no, i know you people. you are ignorant. after that, he kept berating me and harassing me, that's when i said, and you can see from one that cameras will be put out for the public, i pointed to the door and after he said go back b i said you go back. >> laura: none of this shouldra come as any surprise, given thomas' history. she wants an ironically called herself jussie smollett #biggestfan. a year ago thomas portrayed another slight, this time reportedly at the hands of hotel employees at the weston after the waitress asked caucasian people on both sides of me for their order and skipped over met minutes later, the pool boy asked me for my room key.
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this cannot be real right now. i am a guest too, right?m is this true? impossible to prove that's kind of the point. thomas is a member but we call generation g, or the grievance generation. they are the product of decades of leftist control of our schools, our entertainment industry, and they're breeding a culture of resentment and envy basically a society of victims and the victims, no matter what are always right. here to discuss, candace owens and former dnc communications director luis miranda. candace, thomas isn't completely to blame. there's that democrat and media complex that all too often rewards this kind of grievance culture. generation g, we hear about generation x and there's grievance that's unprovable. >> in many ways, she's a victim of the culture, and i've saidd over and over again ad nauseam
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which is just that victimhood as almost become a mental plague on black americans. the word racism is being so overused that society has become desensitized to it and we actually can't even recognize it when it exists. we think everything is racist. things that used to be normal conflicts. getting cut off while driving having a bad correspondence in a grocery store. you should just shrug it off and move on with your day. now people are crying and making videos and pleading on facebook to say look what i experienced today. it's sad for her, but i also think as you mentioned earlier it's something bigger that's happening in the culture that needs to be addressed before it goes too far. >> laura: luis, the individual who she excused, seems like he really doesn't like trump. he's a democrat, cuban, not a white man. t what are your thoughts? >> he's easily the worst person in the story and he looks at a pregnant woman and decides to insult her and by his own admission calls her a lazy sob.
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probably a tinge of racism there. b i can't believe he would call her a lazy sob if he didn't have some of that. the media overplayed it. there is way too much racial tension, if he did tell her to go back, it's understandable she may have misunderstood it based on the incredible tensions that we have and the discourse we have right now about these racist things that donald trump uses for political gains. so that's definitely the underlying problem. i think the person in the story is this man -- >> laura: he's a jerk. how many times do all of us in the course of maybe a week have something happen where someone is slighting us or someone saying something, cutting off -- happened to me today. not only cutting you off but cutting me off with a millimeter. three kids in the car. millimeter away from me. and then flips me the bird.
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why are you flipping me the bird? >> can i ask a question? can you insult a black person without being a racist? that's a question. >> when he went with "lazy." >> are you saying that black people are lazy? is the word lazy -- i've never been called lazy in my entire life. why does the word lazy mean -- i'm asking the question. i asked you a question. you said lazy makes you think of black people. that's what you're saying. >> it's a common racist trope.ag >> that's not a common racist trope for black people. i've never heard that. i think he's a jerk. i think he is an absolute jerk. [all speaking] >> you're calling black people lazy. >> it's a typical racist -- it's not. lazy is a word. >> laura: we've got to stop.. it's getting too hot. i think this does go to theo point that we should be able to have bad days and people should be able to make mistakes. he probably made a mistake was
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really rude to her and he admitted. that doesn't mean -- maybe he is, maybe he isn't. no one can know. the second an allegation goes on facebook live, whoever makes it -- i don't care if it's a conservative or liberal or someone in between, it's instantly picked up if it is validating a progressive worldview. instantly picked up. congressman goes on tv. pundits weighing in. this is what trump cause. i think he seemed to be saying go back to the other aisle. now go back to the other aisle is go back to your country. she changed her story. >> a lot of the discussion that we have on this very show are a grievance culture in and of itself, just from the other perspective. we have a culture -- you either have a grievance on this side or that side and at the end of the day, i think of dr. martin luther king's call you can't drive out darkness with darkness.
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you have to drive it out with light. we have to not attack each other in this way where these confrontations become normal. the police confrontation unacceptable.n, >> laura: the lack of respect that we talked about on the angle tonight, this is not something that happened overnight. we saw what happened during the obama years, before obama, bush reagan, going all the way back to the late 1960s. you go back and you saw that raw footage of the police versus the protesters, there were bad actors on both sides of that in the dnc. not very long ago. that's when it all kind of began. the disrespect cuts across many levels of our society. and it kind of ends up where people feel afraid. a lot of people i know are afraid to say anything. they don't want to share a thought because someone will take it the wrong way. they are free to say their opinion. it is also another good place to
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be. candace, also we have breaking news. candace gave us this news. sorry, i forgot. you were blocked tonight. maybe aoc thought you've disrespected her. you disrespected aoc? how dare you do that? >> i called her an intellectual coward because she says a lot of things and throws a lot of insults and yet she will not debate anybody. she doesn't want to debate people on the other side of the aisle, and i think if you actually believe what you believe, you'd be happy to sit down and have a discussion and dialogue to get to the core of whose ideas are better. i don't believe she believes anything that she says, beyond getting clicks and retweets. >> laura: i disagree. i think she believes it. >> i don't. why not show up and have a debate?ck >> laura: maybe she's not very comfortable in debates but i think she -- >> she calls everyone racist. >> laura: unfortunately that kind of ends the conversation. >> it does, instantly. we have to be able to call somebody lazy, just say awful things, being a bad mood.
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>> i don't agree with aoc but i might block you after this conversation. i'm just kidding. the reality is the debate has gotten too course and we need to change it and i think democrats if they're going to beat donald trump in november of next year, we can't fall into the same type of rhetoric that we are trying to fight on the republican side, whether it's about ivanka or kellyanne or anybody else. >> laura: okay, we've got to go. thank you so much, panel. 2020 dems spent the entire primaries now pushing a radical agenda. why? new polling has the g.o.p. smiling tonight. w polling has t. smiling are you a veteran, own a home, and need cash? you should know about the newday va home loan for veterans it lets you borrow up to 100 percent of your home's value. the newday va loan lets you refinance your mortgages, consolidate your credit card debt, put cash in the bank, and lower your payments over $600 a month. call today. and get the financial peace of mind every veteran deserves.
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>> i firmly support the bill to create a commission to study reparations. >> would you sign the bill? >> yes. [indistinct] >> we have the power to better deal with this problem in the civil process. >> go back to the way we used to treated. when someone goes across the border, not to criminalize desperation. >> should it be a crime to illegally cross the border or should it be a civil offense? >> i agree with secretary castro. >> laura: a significant majority of americans believe that what you read about reparations and decriminalizings illegal border crossings are "bad ideas." why are they dominating the democratic primary?
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we are joined by tom bevan and mark penn, democratic pollster. 62% of americans say reparations are a bad idea and decriminalizing border crossings is a bad idea too. >> the same poll said the path to citizenship for those here illegally is a good idea. this poll had some good news and bad news. >> laura: the problem is that's not dominating the conversation. i think trump would be willing to talk about that. i would probably be against it but he'd be willing to talk about it with pretty much anyone if you could get this border enforced. they don't even want to enter the conversation at all. >> you're right. there is no support in this country for open borders per se. it's about 25%, and this poll 27% that support open borders. 75 percent don't. >> laura: tom bevan, is this sane or insane with these
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numbers that we're seeing on two issues that for the last three or four weeks have really dominated the democraticic discourse, other than maybe medicare for all. >> mark is right.be there's good news for democrats in this in the for example pathway to citizenship widely supported even by a third of republicans. when you go to decriminalizing border crossings, it's two to one or more against. health care, medicare for all preserving private health care is widely supported but when you go to medicare for all replacing private insurance, that's not supported by the public. if you go further and say health care for illegal immigrants, that's toxic among independents and republicans. the one thing, laura, if you look at the poll, these two issues, that we talked about reparations for slavery decriminalizing border crossings, there's not majority support among any of the democratic groups. the only group that has the majority of support for those
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ideas is self-described progressives. to your point, that's where the base is and it's driving theog conversation, why we keep hearing about it from the 2020 candidates. >> laura: mark, we think and we've talked about it before much of 2020 is going to be decided in the midwest. in wisconsin. the president said he's going to flip minnesota today. is it fool's gold? we'll see. he thinks ilhan omar is an opening there. places like michigan and ohio. what audience are they playing to with these issues? >> the iowa primary audience. >> laura: they don't want reparations. >> i think you've seen the move to the left among candidates to try to win the early primaries and they are saying we'll worry about the general election later. the truth is, as you say, no one's going to win a general election with an open border kind of strategy. >> laura: every single candidate. as long as somebody else pays for it, absolutely.
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it's great when someone else pays for it. tom, i want to get to an issue that you labeled as "super insane."t >> raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented r immigrants. >> we do ourselves no favors by having 11 million undocumented people in our country be unable to access health care. >> we can't let people were sick, no matter where they comee from or no matter their status go uncovered. >> laura: tom, back in 2009 obama told the joint session of congress that illegals would not be getting health care under obamacare but i remember talking about it on radio and laughing because i knew that would change. how did the party drift further to the left and obama? now obama is a moderate. >> sure. how far the party has moved in a few years.as many of the policies that obama
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backed and supported are now taboo almost. this goes back to the situation where self-described progressives are the only folks out of all the voters in america, self identified progressives of the only one to give this idea, health care for illegal immigrants, majority support. moderate democrats, more moderate than progressive and at some point in six months moderates will go to the polls and show their opinions.th right now self-described progressives are driving the debate and it's toxic in a general election. >> laura: real quick, mark aoc plus three. they want to drive the moderates out of this party. yes or no? >> yes, they do. it's a moderate country. this poll shows moderates are the ones who want to compromise on immigration and other issues. aoc and that squad don't. >> laura: mark and tom, great to see you. up next, democrats threw a hail mary on the eve of the mueller hearing. dershowitz is up next. hail marye
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>> laura: like a bad sitcom the mueller saga has dragged on for too long and the special counsel's 448 page report was made public three months ago. look at some of the theatrics that we've had to endure since then. in may house democrats read the entire report out loud to anyone who would listen. that was a thrill. days later, mueller took the
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unprecedented step of holding a press conference on the report. >> any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report. the report is my testimony. i would not provide informationt beyond that which is already public in any appearance before congress. >> laura: quivering voice. have you had enough? too bad. that was hollywood's turn to make us gag. >> i need loyalty. >> told the president he would never be able to get rid of flynn, like gum on the bottom of your shoe. >> jay sekulow responded. >> oh. sorry. it was not necessary to elaborate. >> laura: it's hard when someone else writes your lines. the game of footsie between hollywood and the resistance wasn't over yet. who could forget robert de niro's latest attempt at
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being relevant last week. >> over 1,000 former federal prosecutors have united to sign a statement to help americans understand what's actually in o the mueller report. their conclusion should trouble us all. in the words of the mueller report, no person is above the law. >> laura: well, after two plus years, hundreds of pages of documents, thousands i think and the silliness we just showed you, i think all americans hope this really means the end. here to discuss what we might expect hours from now is alan dershowitz, harvard lawht professor emeritus, author of the introduction for the published version of the mueller report. all right, these liberals thinke it's going to be delivering nirvana.he they are finally going to see wile e. coyote get road runner. is it going to happen? >> no, this isn't a hail mary. it's an interception pass.
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what's going to happen is it's going to backfire clearly on the democrats. remember the democrats cannot ask mueller anything about president trump. within the justice department guidelines, he is a third-party. he's not been charged. he has not been indicted. he cannot answer any questions. they are going to come up absolutely blank, but the republicans can ask him questions about staffing decisions about the fisa warrant, about a range of other subjects that will be very helpful to the republicans. i am a democrat.l i hate to see democrats shoot themselves in the foot every single day. but they are doing it. tomorrow will be another example of the democrats hurting themselves, helping the republicans by trying to get short-term benefits and politicize law enforcement. >> laura: alan, i thought it was very curious that someone with the esteemed career and all the experience of bob mueller that he is asking that his
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deputy also be sworn in, aaron zebley, to, i guess, act as a helper at the hearing. what about that? was that surprising? >> it was very surprising. the helper can sit behind him and he can turn to him and whisper in his ear, or he can say look, i don't know the answer that question. why don't you ask my helper. call him to testify. the idea that he needs to have an assistant sitting next to him, it would be like in a criminal trial of witnesses l called and saying i'm not going to answer this questions. i'm bringing my lawyer or my wife or my friend or somebody else, somebody who worked for me, to sit next to me in the chair and then you can ask me all the questions. mueller has to be able to answer these questions by himself. most of the answers are going to be, at least to the questions asked by the democrats, i'm not willing to go beyond the report. the report speaks for itself. read the report. what i said, i said. i'm not going to go beyond what i've said.
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he doesn't need help to give that kind of answer. >> laura: i think people miss this on msnbc earlier today when jim comey. it was kind of a word salad. i couldn't make heads or tailsls of it.at let's watch. >> concluded there wasn't sufficient evidence to charge somebody with a crime. this is about showing the american people the facts that were found, and the facts thatpl were found, whether or not there are criminal charges, are deeply troubling. if this were a case about someone other than the president, they would've already been indicted. >> laura: alan, do you care to take a shot? >> it creates a terrible precedent. it means that for every american who is subject to a criminal investigation and the prosecutor decides not to indict, then they can be called in front of congress and say you didn't indict him but tell us how bad he really is. tell us how many terrible things he did. tell us all the things that youw were told that maybe you didn't believe. it really undercuts the american
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system of justice, the presumption of innocence and are a long tradition that prosecutor simply decide whether to indict or not. if they decide not to indict they then shut up. prosecutors are not asked to t find whether someone's guilty or innocent. it's up to the judge and jury. all prosecutors are supposed tot find is whether there is probable cause to go further and have a trial. it's all getting messed up by the special counsel concept. i hope we have heard the last of special counsel. i hope we never see them again in the american system. >> laura: probable cause to go to trial or not and otherwise we don't need to hear from you at all. t we'll be watching. thank you for joining us.. we've arrived at this part of the 2020 democrat primaries where flailing candidates start embarrassing themselves just to get attention. we debate the latest spectacle from beto and booker next. spece from dado and booker
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language. earlier today, president trump talked about how he was targeting new states ahead of 2020. so what are his potential opponents targeting? here's cory booker. >> my testosterone sometimes makes me want to feel like punching him. >> laura: okay, we really need to play a longer version of that but what was that last night? that was an odd moment. >> first of all, you're not allowed to make public attacks or references to attacking the president. second of all, their whole thing is about how trump's language ir out-of-bounds and causing this hostility. this man is running for president and that's the biggesd problem the democratic candidates have for the american people are practical. do they think these people are ready to lead with statements like that? >> laura: richard, again, thehe longer version is actually really hilarious. that was a strange moment.
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your reaction. i i kind of know what you're going to say, go-ahead. >> reminiscent of what trump and biden talked about. when democrats hear that crowd chanting "send her back," and trump sits back for 13 seconds and does nothing and then says i tried to stop it. like we are all idiots and blind and there's no such thing as videotape. it does make people feel pretty angry. is punching him in the face the appropriate response? no. but i do think he gives rise to that, which is exactly what i think frankly the republicans lost the 2018 elections. >> do you mind if i just say the thing about how democrats get triggered or upset about what these americans, 7,000 americans feel. can you understand how upset they are when they hear the squad and the other socialist democrats running down america running down american values. that's why they are upset. it's not because they're racist
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or they have racial bigotry. n it's because they don't want people here that don't appreciate the beauty of a america. >> they have run this country down no more than the president from the capitol building talking about american carnage and how there is no such thing as american exceptionalism. they've never been that colorful in running down the country. >> laura: he didn't say there was no such thing as american exceptionalism. i think he was trying to say things have gotten out of control and we're going to try to get them back under control.i it's a lofty goal. the economy is doing pretty well. we have a lot of other issues. i think that's going to try toy get at. i want to get to a second example. here's president trump today defending the betsy ross flag after the backlash against nike earlier this month. >> how about the betsy ross -- isn't it terrible? they try to take your heritage away. then you see the picture of president obama with the same exact flag. it's very unfair what they do. they try to demean and belittle and they are very good at it. they are better at that than
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they are at politics. they are better at that than they are at policy. >> when he runs against colin kaepernick for president he'll have a great issue. i don't hear any democratic presidential candidate talking about the betsy ross flag. they are talking about -- truly we are talking about health care. they're talking aboutng infrastructure, all the things. >> laura: why are they not denouncing the anti-americanisml >> why is it not every republican denouncing the president's tweets? >> laura: they know he's not a racist. >> what he's saying it's racist given his history. >> laura: litany, litany litany. we're not doing litany. compare it to the candidate beto o'rourke. >> what we saw in north carolina was almost an impromptu nuremberg rally. >> laura: standing up for the flag versus impugning americans? >> democratic candidates' problems is not with trump. it's with the american people.
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it's what these people thinkdi that they have a problem with and it's the fundamental problem. they attacked those people in north carolina, they are attacking millions of people across the country and it's not a winning strategy.e >> laura: i think trump taps into the sense that americans are afraid that they can't speak without being branded a racist and they can't think america is worth protecting without being called a white nationalist. people are tired of it and the rhetoric needs to come down on both sides. who's behind the newest nicknames for the so-called squad? an "ingraham angle" investigation. the phrase the president used today, we've tracked it down. st our business we were paying an arm and a leg for postage. i remember setting up shipstation. one or two clicks and everything was up and running. i was printing out labels and saving money. shipstation saves us so much time. it makes it really easy and seamless. pick an order, print everything you need, slap the label onto the box, and it's ready to go. our costs for shipping were cut in half. just like that. shipstation. the #1 choice of online sellers.
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but first, the real democrat power players, aoc plus 3, that is the focus of tonight's angle but first democrats new aoc plus 3 agenda, that is the focus of tonight's angle. come on. i could have gone into advertising. we are flattered. shannon bream and the fox news at 19, take it from here. >> the president is watching you. fox news alert, a fox news at night exclusive with senate majority leader mitch mcconnell just hours away from one of the most anticipated congressional hearings this year. former special counsel robert mueller set to appear before the house intelligence and judiciary committees is democrats claim the white house tried to silence mueller republicans say they've got plenty of questions they can't wait to ask. two justice department officials live.
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