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country, then i'm afraid that the democrats are going through some very dark days. >> laura: ik mean, i thought it was "star wars" for a minute.r i heard the music playing, the dark forest. that was fun. we're going to be back here tomorrow night, do it all over again. don't forget, o check out my new podcast, and shannon bream, the fox news at 19, they take it here come alive from detroit, with great analysis. shannon? >> shannon: laura, thank you so much good hello and welcome to "fox news @ night" come i'm shannon bream tonight in detroit. we are live from the sid room with special coverage of the second 2020 democrat primary debate, and this is a fox news alert. two out the most left-leaning, three moderators asking the questions, two hours, two plus hours of progressive ideas for the rhetorical knives came out again senatorss warren and sanders, left-wing progressive ideas, warnings from the other candidates. major ideological divides on display, most notably on health care and immigration. and with the dnc raising the
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thresholds for the next debate, tonight's performances might be the last for some of these candidates. we've got fox news coverage tonight. bret baier, peter doocy, howard kurtz, and we start with correspondent kristin fisher, live just outside the box theater with some make or break debate performances. good evening. >> good evening, shannon peered heading into tonight, there was so much talk about the two most progressive candidates going head-to-head, senator elizabeth sanders -- elizabeth warren, and bernie sanders. but instead, this turned out to be a fight between the more moderatern candidates and those two progressives. for really the soul of the democratic party, no issue was that more point than the issue of health care. here is senator bernie sanders responding to some of his opponents who called his plan for medicare for all political suicide.e. >> you're wrong. [laughter] [applause] right now, we have a
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dysfunctional health care system. we should deal with the tragedy and give everyone health care is a right, but why do we have to be the party of takinge something away from people? >> no, where the democrats, we are not about trying to take health care from anyone. that is what the republicans are trying to do. and we should stop using republican talking points. >> i'm normally way over there with bernie and elizabeth on this one, i hear the others. >> another issue that really highlighted the divide between the more moderate and progressive candidates on the stage was immigration. >> would you decriminalize illegal border crossings? >> yes, we don't plan to donald trump's hand. >> but you are playing into his hands. the challenges into a criminal offense to cross the border,l te challenge is that donald trump's president, and using this to rip
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families apart. >> if you want to come into the country, you should at least bring the doorbell. even if you decriminalize -- which we should not do -- you still have statutory authority. >> as for the fight for the far left, not once tonight did sanders or warren directly attack one another. therr sharpest contrast came in response to a question when warren was asked why she called herself a capitalist. >> you make it a point to say you are a capitalist. is that your way of convincing voters but you might be a safer choice than senator sanders senator sanders? >> no, it is my way of talking about -- i know how to fight, and i know how to win. >> so, the issue of electability, of course one of the most important issues to democrats heading into 2020. which candidate can beat to president trump? all of the candidates gave their own answers tonight, but mayor pete buttigieg gave an answer that really stood out.
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listen here. >> nominate me, and you get to see the president of the united states stand next to an american war veteran and explain why he chose to pretend to be disabled when it was his chance to serve. >> one candidate who really needed a moment tonight one of the former congressman beto o'rourke from texas, he needed that after a somewhat poor performance during the first debate, and that did not happen againte tonight. so tomorrow night, we are now looking ahead, again, the issue of electability going to be g front and center. do you have joe biden, kamala harris, cory booker, all sharing center stage tomorrow night. shannon?r >> shannon: all right, we will be back for that, kristin, ththank you very much. okay, let's bring fox news' chief political correspondent and host of "special report," bret baier appears some of the biggest amount of the night, the president talked about we saw more of an ideological divide, it seemed like, tonight, during
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the last round in miami. >> bret: shannon, you're exactly right. good evening. i think this is exactly what the battle will be, as you head into the caucuses and primary battle battles. this is the heart of the democratic party, the fight for where the party goes, and you saw that right at the stage, right at the beginning, once they got past the actual opening statements and the national anthem. you got to health care, and that was where you really saw bernie sanders, and how much influence he has had on this party over the last, really, ten years, but the last cycle. take a listen. >> two things. they will be better because medicare for all is comprehensive, it covers all health care needs for senior citizens, it will finally include dental care, hearing aids, and eyeglasses. second of all -- >> you don't know that. >> second of all, i know, i wrote the damn bill. >> bret: i wrote the damn
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bill, wasn't long before had bumper stickers out for bernie sanders beer they're trying to capitalize on that. second one was the battle with the moderates, shannon, and that is the foils here of john delaney and the newcomer to the debate stage, governor bullock from montana. they fought back on health care and on immigration. >> i've been going around rural america, and i asked rural hospitalal administrators one question: if all of your bills were paid at the medicare rate last year, what would happen? and they all look at me and say "we would close," but the question is why do we have to be so extreme? why can't we just give everyone health care as a right, and allow them to haveve choice? i'm starting to think this is not about health care -- >> thank you, congressmen, we are going to movee on. >> the same immigration system needs a sane leader, and we can do that without decriminalizing, providing health care for everyone. and it's not me saying that, that's obama's last homeland
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security secretary. >> bret: a good initial, inaugural run on the debate stage, and introduced himself. john delaney, a searched candidate on google, and he could make, again, a jump up -- he needs to if he is going to get the third debate in t september. finally, the point i looked at was elizabeth warren. she had the most talking time of any candidate on the stage, and then she had this lap back of delaney. take a listen. >> i think democrats win when we run on real solutions, not impossible promises. when we run on things that are workable, not fairy tale economics. >> you know, i don't understand why anybody goes through all of the trouble of running for president in the united states just to talk about what we really can't do and shouldn't fight for. [applause]en't >> bret: that got of a lot of applause and laughs in the hall. the last thing was marianne williamson.
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in miami, she had very little time on the stage -- talking time -- and yet we saw her numbers bump up in new hampshire, in particular. today, tonight, she had a lot more time, marianne williamson did. she is now the number one searched candidate from this debate one google, and she is trending on twitter. i would not be surprised to see marianne williamson, the author, who talks about love and fighting the dark forces, get a bump tonight in the polls, perhaps enough to get her to the third debate. >> shannon: yeah, i think you aree right, i wouldn't be surprised either. sheee garnered some of the most reaction on the ground tonight in detroit, and that came often when she was calling out everybody else on the stage. she is one of the nonpoliticians, really the only one in this whole thing right now, and she has been calling out ---- them out for the donations, the money they have taken, the hypocrisy they have about these things. i've got to tell you, the audience in detroit seem to love her tonight. so, we'll see appeared >> bret: they really did. and the last thing, shannon, is
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i think these candidates all got the fact that democrats really care about most: beating donald trump. the opening and closing o statements had to do with beating donald trump, all of them said they could do it. in different ways. >> shannon: well, we thank you for sticking around late for analysis for us tonight, bret, thank you so much. >> bret: you bet. >> shannon: okay, with the debate in detroit, 2020 democrats are hoping for a comeback after president trump won michigan in 2016. he was the first republican to carry this state since 1988. the head of the republican national committee is penning an op-ed in "the detroit news" titled "socialist policies won't fly in michigan" they're joining me now, the g.o.p. chairwoman, ronna mcdaniel, who knows michigan very well. thanks for being with us tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> shannon: i want to start by looking at some statistics, the top ten searches on google in the last seven days here in michigan, issues that people are
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worried about. i want to put this up for you, top the list is health care. now, we know this is something that polling shows a bottle of voters think democrats are better equipped to handle the issue, they don't trust republicans, who talked about repealing it, but haven't really made a good public case or articulation for what they would do about health care. it's got voters worried, yet, here in michigan they say it is their number one t issue. >> well, you have seen republicans take this on. you saw the gramm cassidy bill, he saw democrats refusing to come across the aisle, blockne grant money, the president think he is going to protect prebecause precondition coverage, but what you did see from the democrats tonight is al socialist plan, a takeover of medicare -- of all of our health care with this proposal for medicare for all. mthey didn't know how to pay fr it. if they were dishonest about the fact that it would raise taxes on every single american. and bernie sanders and elizabeth warren said flat out they will take away private
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health insurance plans, and i don't think that is something people in michigan would like.in in fact, it's been pulled in michigan, it is not something that is popular, and i think a lot of union workers would sayay you are taking away my plan that i negotiated, you're going to take me off of my plan where i can choose my doctor and what is best for me and my family? i don't thinkhi that is going to fly. >> shannon: you mentioned senator elizabeth warren, she talked about this tonight, that some off those things she heard her fellow democrats staying on the stage, she felt they were g.o.p. talking points, she said listen, don't fall into that trap. here's what she said as a bit of a warning to her fellow candidates. >> where the democrats. we are not about trying to take away health care from anyone. that is what the republicans are trying toth do. and we should stop using republican talking points in order to talk with each other about how to best provide that health care. >> shannon: okay, we want you to stand by -- if you could stand by real quickly, we're
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going to peter doocy. hewi is with congressman tim ryn on the floor. he was one of the guys who is warning the rest of the pack, don't go so far left that you loseto the potential to reach other voters. peter doocy is talking with him now. peter? >> peter: we were just talking with congressman ryan, you took aim at bernie sanders and he took him right back at you. what did you. take away from the interaction, one of the big, buzzy moments of the night? >> i think taking away people's private health insurance is a mistake. as i've said, we've got union members whomi negotiated contras with the business, and they gave away wages to get a good health care deal. i see it all the time now. it sucks, because they don't get the wages, but they got the. health care. and the world is falling apart around them, but they have their health care. for democrats to say our nominee is going to be the person -- we know you have really good health care, but we are going to make it better -- i tend to
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think that is a disaster. >> peter: i know you are in demand right now, so one more question. bernie sanders, you said he didn't know if he was talking about with union contract, and hehe said "yes i do, i wrote the damn bill." is that effective to you? >>ht he didn't right the union contract, so no way to tell with the union contract is. that was my point. you can say what is in your bill, but you can't say what is in the union contract, and whether or not it is good or not. and it is up to the union on the workers to decide what is best for them. and not necessarily him. you know, it is just one of those things. i think itt is wrong. i think it's wrong for the unions. i know my union peoplero back he hate the idea of losing their health care like this, and being forced into a system, and i just think it's wrong. >> peter: all right, congressman ryan, thank you very much. shannon, you heard it there, there has been so much talk for the last couple months, the whole beginning of the cycle, m about these big, progressive ideas.
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tim ryan, somebody who is obviously pitching some of the more moderate ideas, and we were just talking to him a little bit, he challenged bernie sanders -- forgive me for not looking right at the camera, i'm just time to look around to see if there's anybody else right here, and i will ask jason if he sees anybody, just right around, in the neighborhood. again, the spin room, this tent, we are only about 100 feet away from you shannon, but it is cozy over here. it's a lot of staff, reporters, so we will try to find somebody else. we will find somebody else. >> shannon: peter doocy, we'll come back to you when that happens. just holler, because i might hear you. peter, thank you very much. we wanter to bring back, rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel standing by. we just played a sound bite from elizabeth warren, which stands in such good contrast to what we heard from the congressman speaking with peter. he is cautioning them about going too far left, but taking away health care, private insurance from millions of americans who may not be so sold on that idea. her response to some of this
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push back tonight was essentially, hey, listen, we have to stand up here and fight for things, we can just say there's no way to get it done. that is not why we are running. but, you know, there is definitely a schism their peerage also said tonight that if you say these things about losing private insurance and warning people, you are essenti- she is accusing her fellow democrats of using your g.o.p. talking points in the debate tonight did what you think? >> she was dishonest tonight, first of all, she wouldn't admit it would be a tax cut on the middle class, which absolutely would be. the estimates are $32 trillion to do this medicare for all, i think that would skyrocket. and taking away health care, private health care plans for 180 million americans. i do not want bernie sanders or elizabeth warrenen telling me wt doctor i can go to, what medical procedures i get to have. i don't want washington making those decisions. i wantak toe make the decision between me and my doctor, and she is absolutely being dishonest when she is saying democrats are not taking something a away, they absolutey are proposing taking away your
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private health insurance plans. and i do not think the majority of americans want that. >> shannon: and a number of democrats believe what you believe, that it could be detrimental to whomever becomes the nominee if that is their position fit i want to quickly play something for you from south bend mayor pete buttigieg. he said no matter what these men and women propose, the g.o.p. on theos president are going to coe after all of them in the same way. here's what he said. >> it is true if we embrace a far left agenda, we are a bunch of crazy socialist. if we embrace a conservative agenda, they will say we are bunch of crazy socialist. let's just end up for the right policy, go out there, and defended. >> shannon: click, ten seconds from you, chairwoman, before we have to crop up. >> the winner is president trump, he gets to run on an economy that is booming, especially michigan, manufacturing jobs are coming back. it was shameful tonight that we do not hear any mention of
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usmca. we are in michigan, we need manufacturing jobs coming back, not one person on that stage said we need to revise nafta and pass usmca, that is critical to my home state of michigan. >> shannon: it is certainly very important in this region. rnc chairwoman, thank you ronna mcdaniel, for stopping in with us. good to see see you. >> thanks for having me. >> shannon: okay, pardon the interruption pair tonight's moderators and forcing a new set of rules, but was it enough to prevent an all-out fight in the motor sadie, we are alive from detroit after the break. for back pain? before you take anything, i recommend applying topical relievers first. salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors for effective, non-addictive relief. salonpas lidocaine. patch, roll-on or cream. hisamitsu.
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talking point, and at the end of the day -- and by the way, and by the way, by the way, the health care industry will be advertising tonight on this program. >> shannon: well, debate moderators frequently become part of the highlight reel on nights like these, so let's break it down with fox news media analyst, host of "media buzz," howard kurtz. good evening. >> hi, shannon. >> shannon: what do you think -- >> that might have been a high point, and going after jake tapper. it was very substantive, even wonky debate. they w did enforce time limits, kept the trains on track, but also may be limited to any sort of unscripted or viral moments. at don lemon, the liberal opinion host on the panel, ask questions blatantly from the left, promoting gun-control, reg to president trump as a racially divisive for figure. but they did an excellent job pressing the candidates on thei.
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position, following up, in fact, let's take a look at your tack for asking elizabeth warren about the cost of government on medicare for all. >> are you also, "with bernie" on medicare for all when it comes to raising taxes on middle-class americans to pay for it? >> billionaires are going to pay more. >> 15 extra seconds, would you raise classes on the middle class to pay for medicare for all? >> costs will go up for billionaires, and go up for corporations, for middle-class families, cost, total cost, will go down. >> so she still didn't answer, but that kind of persistence really painted down several of the majoraj candidates on two positions that are popular applause mines and democratic primary debates, could be a poison pill and a fall election. that is abolishing private health insurance inav favor medicare for all and decriminalizing border crosses, what republicans would call open borders.
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>> shannon: yeah, and how we come i wanted to ask about a change for tonight. in the last debate, some of the candidates were not happy about being put in this position, where they were asked --hi thins like health care coverage for people who are here in this country illegally, asking them to raise theire hands. not getting a chance to explain, yes or no, on these questions. they agreed not to do that tonight. what do you make of that change? >> is a technique that can be overused, but i didn't think cnn should have just given it up. sometimes it is a way of getting everybody on the record without all of the fudging that politicians and candidates like idto do. look, very little food wasod thrown tonight. we talked a lot about the more moderate candidates, particularly montana governor steve bullock, taking on progressive candidates. it was never really personal. didn't have the kind of personal attacks the media replay overat and over and over again. in fact, when elizabeth warren was given a gold plated invitation to dry contrast with the bernie sanders, you describe
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yourself as a capitalist, that is a way of preventing yourself as a safer choice? bernie sanders, she wouldn't touch it, she went the other direction. the two of them seem to have a mutual nonaggression pact. we got a lot of their positionst and saw contrast, but many candidates not wanting to engage in the poking of the eye thing that has been widely predicted for this debate. >> shannon: and we saw them when they came out on the stage together, she and -- of the two senators, sanders and warren, also had a bit of a hug. we go back years, this isn't going to be about attacking him pair the two of them did have the most airtime or talking time tonight, as we would've expected. a matchup between the two. what about tomorrow night, anything, looking ahead to a rematch, essentially, of the former vice president biden and kamala harris? >> a lack of fireworks tonight means there will be much more to attention tomorrow night when biden on harris share the stage. this is what i hate about cnn
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and msnbc caving to the democratic national committee, having a lottery pick the candidates. they all should have been on thy stage, if not tonight, the tomorrow night. bernie, elizabeth, biden, kamala harris, the people with the best shot of winning the nomination. instead, the second time in a row, elizabeth warren does not get to talk oror debate directly with, for example, the former vice president or with kamala harris. so we will haveit a split bill here, i think tomorrow night's debate will get even more attention to it all come back and talk about it. >> shannon: i would love that. howard kurtz, we thank you very much for your time. we go good to see you. >> shannon: thank you. okay, roaming the spin room tonight talking to tonight's major players. we said we would go back to when you have news for peter, what do you have? >> peter: we are congressman john delaney, who presented a real contrast tonight on the stage between the really progressive candidate at the middle, and yourself, not as progressive. do you think you made an impact? >> everything i'm trying to
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achieve is a goal, by workable solutions to get there. i talked about detroit, the best outcomes are when the private sector and government work together, and that is a big theme of my campaign. a lot of folks on the stage do not want there to be a private economy. at one point, elizabeth warren g to you, saying some of her proposals were a little too far to the left, and she said why are you even bothering running for president if you're just going to say what we cannot do? can you tell us, you've had time to think about that -- >> that sounds like someone who doesn't want to defend her policies. imagine saying to john kennedy, when he said ween should go to e moon by the end of the decade, i think we should go to the moon next month. so why are you even calling for that, it's not aggressive enough? we need big ideas, but they have to bede workable. i always think you have to be able to answer three questions to the american people. is it a workable idea? how are you going to pay for it? and how are you going to get it done? i have answers for all of the
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important issues, infrastructure, publice, education, climate change, fixing health care, all of my plans are workable. i tell people how i'm going to pay for them, and exactly how going to get it done. >> peter: one final, quick question. you were the first person in the race. you think tonight was a breakout for you, or do you have something else to do before you can really break through in the polls? >> we thought it was a good night, because i made a clear contrast. and i said in my opening, we've got a choice. good on the road of senator sanders and warren, free everything, bad policies like medicare for all, impossible promises, losing independent voters, reelect donald trump. as i said, that is what happened with mcgovern, mondale, the caucus. we can nominate someone who has big ideas, create universal health care with her choice, rebuild and for structure, create jobs, and bring together the country, and actually start getting things done did >> peter: congressman, thank you very. much. shannon, you heard it right there. we are just a little bit --
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actually, you know what, let's just -- we will have scott come over this way. we just talked to congressmanan delaney. this is how much extra there is to talk about with these candidates. they were on there for all of 2 1/2 hours, didn't get it all out. d a that is what we're doing over here, just trying to see what else might be left over, and we will keep it coming. shannon? >> shannon: all right, sounds good. peter doocy on the spin room floor appeared thank you. renewed a debate about the state of baltimore. north korea playing with fire. there's a lot of late breaking news, and we will bring you that next. th usaa has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's we're the hayles, and we're usaa members for life.
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huge win. >> i just think you have to leave open the possibility of meeting with anyone at any plac place. >> shannon: chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel covering foreign policy news for us tonight. good evening, mike. >> good evening, shannon peered telling fox news, this was similar to last week's test by the north koreans. north korea fired several unidentified projectiles off the east coast. a similar scene six days ago when the regime fired off two short range ballistic missiles before the launch is today, president trump spoke about north korea and its dear leader. >> my relationship with kim jong un is a very good one, as i'm sure you've seen. and we will see what happens. i can't tell you what's going to happen. i know one thing, that of my opponent. for president, we woud be in a major war right now with north korea. we are nowhere close. >> the timing of this latest launch is interesting. secretary of state mike pompeo
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has announced he is planning to travel to asia in the coming days. he is planning stops in thailand, micronesia, australia, newly sworn in defense secretary mark esper is due to meet with pompe in australia. experts suggest the launches are aimedod at trying to ramp up pressure on the united states to offer concessions. the u.s. and north korea are struggling to resume diplomatic talks and the regimes nuclear weapons program. president trump sent photographs from the meeting in june, the third meeting between the president and kim since they first met in singapore a year ago. president trump downplayed last week's tests, emphasizing they were short range. all indications are the north koreans will continue lashing out until there is a deal, or the u.s. promises to ease sanctions. shannon?o >> shannon: all right, mike emanuel with the latest on the foreign policy front, thank you. back to 2020 news, president trump made his own prediction about who he thinks will win the democratic nomination next year. plus, the president renewing his
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attack on baltimore and the democratic congressman who represents it. correspondent david sponges following the latest from the white house. good evening, david. >> good evening from a president can and know my tonight, tweeta few hours ago, celebrating a judge's decision to throw out a lawsuit filed by the democratic national committee. the suit alleges the trump campaign and russia were involved in hacking and other interference during the 2016 campaign. now itin is 2020 that is on the president'sha radar. >> when it comes to 2020, it is clear who the president believes hesi will face on the debate stage. >> i am watching. i think, right now, it will be sleepy joe. >> but until president trump's touch on that stage in the fall of next year, he is focused on the day today, and baltimore. >> people living in baltimore are very happy that i amgi bringing up the fact that it is like living in hell. >> the present continuing as the tax on baltimore, specifically the districthe presented by
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chairman elijah cummings. following a weekend tweet storm. >> baltimore has been very badly mishandled for many years. >> in 2014, the department of housing and urban development nedered the city to repay nearly $4 million in grants, and auditors have routinely criticized baltimore for failing to account for its spending of federal dollars. warning those grants could eventually bely taken away. right now, those grants still exist. meanwhile, texas congressman john radcliffe is a president choice to replace outgoing director of nationaloi intelligence dan coats. her announced sunday he was resigning on august 15th. during his tenure, coates publicly contradicted the president on multiple occasions. >> i liked dan come he is a friend of mine, and there really wasn't time. there was confusion, more than conflict. we need somebody strong that can really rein it in. as i think you've all learned, the intelligence agencies have run a mark. >> radcliffe will face a senaten confirmation hearing.
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majority leader mitch mcconnell says he hasn't met with him yet. my noted leader chuck schumer calling that nomination a "grave mistake." shannon? >> shannon: david's bunt in washington, thank you very much. theuc democrats internal split n display tonight, the so-called moderates versus progressive's. our panel ready to weigh in next. woman 1: i had no symptoms of hepatitis c. man 1: mine... man 1: ...caused liver damage. vo: epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c. vo: whatever your type, ask your doctor if epclusa is your kind of cure. woman 2: i had the common type. man 2: mine was rare. vo: epclusa has a 98% overall cure rate. man 3: i just found out about my hepatitis c. woman 3: i knew for years. vo: epclusa is only one pill, once a day, taken with or without food for 12 weeks. vo: before starting epclusa, your doctor will test if you have had hepatitis b, which may flare up,
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♪ >> throw your hands up. >> you have it implemented the plan! >> why do we have to be the party of taking something away? >> stop using republican talking points. speak with a mother andsi a chik thousands of miles, they are not criminals. >> i'm not supporting any plan that rips away quality health care from individuals. >> this plan offered by senator warner and
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senator sanders, will tell the union members that they are going to their health care. >> shannon: welcome back tot' tonight's special coverage of the second democrat debate, by from the spin room in detroit. at ten democratic candidates facing off to, two of the most left-wing progressives, and a major ideological divide on display. tonight, fox news can fit a jeff jessica tarlov, jason chaffetz, katie. i will start with you.rn i bought a vaulting back and forth, folks on one side, including congressman tim ryan, talking about the fact, we have talked about all kinds of things tonight that are not going to work with average americans. comers know my former representative delayed saying it is a fairy tale that we don't have to pay for. on the other side, senator elizabeth warren saying what is the point if we do not talk about structural changes? how do you think it plays out? >> the divide and fight for the
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soul of the democratic party was on full display with the dispute of what policy positions of wod get them elected, were good for the g country. my cats tonight were arguing about taking away health insurance from union workers in michigan. as a colleague of mine pointed out, they also advocated to take away and to get rid of fossil fuel cars in detroit. so if that is what they are going to run on, there is no way they are going to get back michigan or wisconsin or pennsylvania from donald trump, who broke down that blue wall in 2016 against hillary clinton. they've got to come up with better ideas than taking away things that people actually liks that used to be blue, but also around the country. the majority people do not support taking away private insurance, and this myth that you can implement a medicare for all plan while keeping the private insurance market, it's a myth. we saw that with o obamacare, te private insurance market was
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destroyed with a government takeover on that level, imagine what it would look like at the level of someone like elizabeth warner bernie sanders is advocating for. >> shannon: with that split going on, that family feud continuing tonight, clearly. we have other numbers to look at pretty fox news poll back on how the president's handling the economy, because it continually says elections are won and lost on the economy. that is enough for people to believe they are doing well. when you look at numbers for approval or disapproval right now, plus 11-point margin on this point, 52% approval on how he's doing on the economy. jessica, how do democrats on against that? >> they run against that by talking about how the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. the structural inequality in this country, basically what elizabeth warren was talking about this evening -- and bernie sanders, as well, but i thought elizabeth warren did a better job of doing that. i saw her as the clear winner for thisis evening.
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there seem to be a pact between bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, focusing on the incoming of those trying to occupy the centrist lane. she had some great moments, like slamming down john delaney, where ijo saw on twitter, there was a lot of -- is john delaney dead? is wikipedia entry was changed to his death date was this evening. i was deftly one of her finest moments. i was happy to see if steve bolick on the stage. i thought that he was the best performing centrist. i think bringing his story, having won in a trump 25 plus state, what he has been able to do there, in terms of extension of medicaid, working with republicans, i think that is an incredibly important story for us to be telling, but at the end of the day, the format just doesn't work, and we really need to see bernie and warren with joe biden and kamala harris, the people but frankly democrats are going to be choosing between. >> shannon:ho yeah, so tomorrow
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night, obviously another batch of candidates that includes those you mentioned, former vice president biden, kamala harris. as we look at the next debate, the field is going to narrow, there may be matchups of these different philosophies. in the meantime, i want to look at a different fox news poll mach number, which party would do in a better job on health c? democrats get 50% among registered voters. republican 36%, equal 4%, entre 10%. that is a tough number of republicans. you were there when republicans were in charge, and they didn't get anything done, there was talk of what they could do to the aca, what they could do to roll it back. but now, is that the real danger with some of these court cases pending, what does the g.o.p. have planned? to they have a plan they can articulate? >> i think the g.o.p. does need to get united, and they have got
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to get on the same page about what o are the three to five things they are going to do to fix health care? i did find it fascinating tonight, shannon, that the democrats were all complaining about the affordable care act. remember, it was the democrats that passed the affordable care act without any support for many republicans. it was done with barack obama, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, and cthey were the ones that went d pushed this thing through. they were the ones that did it, now all they are doing is complaining about it. and remember, democrats want to dismantle everything and take away some of the good parts that are working. they can't even run the veterans administration. you want government run -- there's no way that america believes that the government can do it better. they can't run amtrak, they can't run the va, now they want to take over the entire health care industry? you've got to be kidding. >> shannon: not all of them do. that is where the line in the sand is. > shannon: we've got to leave it there. jessica and jason and katie, thank you very much for weighing
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♪ >> shannon: welcome back to "fox news @ night"'s special coverage of the second democratic presidential debate. tonight, a clear divide,
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moderates versus progressives. where live in detroit baird correspondent peter doocy is catching up with candidates from working the spin room, and how they are spinning their performances.. peter, who do you got now? >> peter: shannon, we found one of the moderate democratic candidates, former governor of colorado john hickenlooper. any surprises tonight? what stood out? >> i thought it was a great debate. we got into some of the issues prettyf deeply. there are some issues i wish we had spent more time on, economic equality, so that we don't continue concentrating wealth. how do we make sure the middle class starts growing again? i also want -- i have bias, i admit that, but i would have preferred, i thought the moderates didn't get as much air time as the more idealistic progressives. >> peter: one of the moment that has been clipped more than anything so far since it happened with you and bernie sanders, almost simultaneously throwing your hands up in the air. what was going on, what was going through your mind when you
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said that, and when he did it? >> well, i love, i think senator sanders -- i mean, he created a lot of the clarity around these issues, he made the front and center. we disagree, right? so when he throws his hands up with this dramaticds moment, its hard not to jump in, or even try to anticipate it. >> peter: after all of that, and becausese you said you don't think so far moderates have been getting enough air time, do you think there is something you said come on one of the other moderates might have said, that could steer the conversation that way, away from green new deal, medicare for all? >> we'll see. i think there's a lot of opportunity for that down the road. if you go back and look at all of the primaries over the last 50, 60 years, whoever is winning in june or july, they almost never win back the caucus,ck right? they never win iowa, they don't win new hampshire. i think there's a lot of ground to be covered. >> peter: governor hickenlooper, thank you
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very much. a big night, much appreciating your time. shannon, you can see things are starting to clear out. where do you go next? >>e i might go to sleep, eventually. anyway, i'm going back to iowa. >> peter: back to iowa, we might see you there. thanks. and shannon, back over to you. >> shannon: peter doocy, sleeping in iowa. it two things all of these candidates have on their mind. thank you very much. what to expect on might number two.
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performance for some of the lower bowling candidates. the dnc upping the threshold fo the next round of debates for a lot of these folks, this might be the last chance to make a case. good night from detroit. >> we are here with the first fox reaction to that second 202 democratic debate grade we will take you through all the highlights a couple of the acts and many of the lowlifes. in we have an all-star cast, you're going to love it. we have mike huckabee who knows a little bit about mark penn wh knows a lot about pulling especially for democrat candidates plus mercedes flash is here, and she is here with u exclusively with the trump campaign first official respons to tonight's democrat debate. we couldn't let the night to go without our body language exper telling us what the candidates