destruction, you are tonight's midnight heroes. most-watched, most trusted, most grateful you spend your evening with us. good night from washington. we were back here tomorrow. i'm shannon bream. ♪'t >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the president is speaking at this hour in cincinnati, ohio. we'll be having portions of it life. we'll also get to last night's debate. tulsi gabbard of hawaii hit kamala harris harder than anyone has so far. a remarkable moment.wa we will be talking to tulsi gabbard live. right now, we are going to go back to the president, speaking in ohio. >> president trump: from the fields of the great pocahontas, who is now lying and cheating her way to the presidency if possible. she's trying to win, remember? she defrauded people with her credentials. she said she was indian and i

said that i have more indian blood than she does and i have none, i'm sorry. and we drove her crazy. and we drove her crazy. that's a good thing, not a bad thing. and she went out and she had a blood test done and it came out 1000/24 points. he said somewhere back there, hundreds of years ago, there may have been an indian or it may have been a statistical error because it was so small, which it was. anyway, the guy was, like, from her group. you wouldn't be very happy right now and we have a man that campaigned so hard, relentlessly. and i came in, we did a rally where we had people like this. it was packed. the day before the election.n.

and mike dewine won that election and he won it easily. mike dewine. [cheers and applause]on and we have a man who is running for governor of kentucky again -- [cheers and applause] and he has done an incredible job. and you know, sometimes you can do such a good job that not everybody appreciates it, s but they had a lot of problems with pensions and a lot of tremendous problems that a normal governor would never have been able to correct. but when you correct it, you make yourself a little bit lesso popular. but he had no choice and they had no choice. it's a great, great state and he has turned out to be a great, great governor, matt bevin. [cheers and applause]

>> tucker: we will get back to the trump event. monitoring every minute of it. we'll be bringing you the nerves were the parts. right now, the president is talking local politics but we will get back to him shortly. as promised though, there's a lot to unpack from the democratic debate last night. four years ago, democrats came up with a new and untested political theory, they could win the white house, their strategist promised, if only they called enough people racist. that was the plan. hillary clinton, for one, thought it was brilliant. by election day, she had denounced half the country as bigots. in the end, it didn't work, maybe not surprisingly, turns out that when you tell people you hate them, they don't care for it. what voters strongly prefer is when you try to improve their lives. it's not complicated. yet, somehow, this is the remarkable part, if you think about it, democrats have, in the three years since they lost, steadfastly refused to learnso

this lesson. improve people's lives, they will tell you? no thanks. they think their job is to improve people. they think voters are disgusting and immoral. they want to force them to be half as virtuous as they are. for the second election cycle in a row, that is the democratic message. you are disgusting, try to be as good as we are.ra that message was on florid display last night at the candidates' debate. to pick among countless examples of it, washington governor jay inslee blames americans for the coming end of the world. >> we cannot work it out. we cannot work this out. the time is up. our house is on fire. we have to stop using coal in ten years and we need a president to do it or it won't get done. get off coal. save this country and the planet. that's what i'm on board for. >> tucker: okay, so let's take

carbon emissions really are responsible for it will becomeme the change but we don't known. that. science has not proved it. sorry. it is not proven. but just for the sake of argument, let's speculate that it's true. carbon causes climate change. china is by far the world's biggest emitter of carbon. so shouldn't governor inslee, who cares very deeply about climate change, turn his wrath on the chinese? well, of course. but he didn't. and never will. because for democrats, everything always the fault of americans voters. watch senator kirsten gillibrand of new york bragged about that time she harrangued some of the tourists most people in america about being too privileged. even as they languish in chronic unemployment and dropped dead by the hundreds of thousands from a widely ignored drug epidemic. the real problem is their white privilege. >> i don't believe that it's the responsibility of cory and kamala to be the only voice that takes on these issues of institutional racism. systemic racism in our country.

i think, as a white woman of privilege, who is a u.s. senator running as the as the president of the united states, it is also my responsibility to lift up those voices that aren't being listened to and i can tali to those white woman in the suburbs and explain to them about what white privilege actually is. my responsible is not to only lift up those stories, but explain to communities across america like i did in ohio, to a young mother, that this is all of our responsibility. >> tucker: yeah, they are privileged in youngstown. just too much privilege. that's a problem. not to be outdone, julian castro attached americans for daring to complain about illegal immigration to their country. open borders? that's just a right wing talking point.ht and then a single breath later, castro called for repealing the law that makes it a crime to enter america illegally. watch.t >> open borders is a white wing >> open borders is a right-wing talking point and frankly, and disappointed that some folks

and some folks on this stage have taken the bait. the only way that we are going to guarantee that we don't have family separations in this set country again is to repeal the immigration and nationality act. >> tucker: cory booker in the meanwhile is in the process of transitioning to a brand-new identity. he spent most of the evening sounding like a nation of islam recruiter rather than the deeply privileged son of two ibm executives, which is what he is. >> there are people right now in prison for life for drug offenses because you stood up and used that tough on crime phony rhetoric that got a lot of people elected, but destroyed communities like mine. >> tucker: that's booker, barking at the former vice president.oo poor vice president. [laughs] "communities like mine that were destroyed by you, joe biden." cory booker drew grew up in

harrington park, new jersey the black population of parentingop part? 0.6%.. less than 1%. the poverty rate for families in harrington park? literally zero. not a single family in harrington park is poor. not one. that's where cory booker grew up. so the only way that joe biden's crime policy destroyed his hometown is by allowing presidents to move out and gentrify brooklyn. cory booker is by far the most privileged candidate running for president in either party this year and that's fine, not his fault. it's the relentless lying about it that's so grating. can any of these candidates win a general election? in it at this point, no,er they can't. they are not impressive enough. joe biden was the parties one real hope and after last night,j it seems pretty clear conclusively clear, really, that uncle joe is heading for a well deserved retirement. >> the fact is, the bills that

the president, the future president, that the senator is talking about, if you agree with me, go to joe, 30330 and help me in this fight. thank you very much. >> tucker: biden couldn't even locate his own campaign website. that joe 30330 website? it doesn't exist. in fact, i think it's been bought by pete buttigieg or something.ac but it tells you a lot about joe biden. don't be fooled by the current poll numbers. biden is finished. and if another candidate doesn't step up soon and start talking like a sane person, so is the democratic party, at least for the cycle. dana perino horse "the daily briefing with dana perino" angie joins us tonight. dana, i'm starting to think that none of these candidates is capable of winning. >> it could be. you know, i'm reminded of something bob beckel told us a few years ago, he said that in

1984, right before the election about six weeks before the election, the mondale campaign put out a poll and they decided to add a question at the end of the poll and the question was this: do we even think we need to have an election? and it was something like 90% of people were like, no. we are good. and he said he knew then it was probably going to be a landslide. i'm not suggesting that's going to be the case.nd brit hume set a very well on our air yesterday. we are so far away from where we are. however, we have had nine months of this campaign. elizabeth warren and kamala harris, they were out early. cory booker, you have a lot of information. you have now 25 candidates but 20 people who were on stage over the last two nights and nobody is setting the world on fire. and in fact, one of the things they spent last night doing was basically picking apart the

obama legacy, the obama presidency, which was only three years in the rearview mirror. that was something that was very telling to me because if you watched every moment of those debates, and i did, i think that if barack obama, the candidate of 2008, had been on that stage last night, he would have been considered a moderate h conservative democrat. the party has moved so far left that he might not have even been on the stage and you saw today, obama staffers and former cabinet officials, eric holder, rahm emanuel, they all said wait a minute, guys, why are you coming after barack obama? shouldn't we all be focusing our firepower on donald trump? and they didn't do that and i think it's interesting that over the last two days, nothing has really changed. i think joe biden is still going to be the front runner when allr of the polls shake out. >> tucker: biden's performance though, last night, really did raise, i think, questions about his competence as a candidate.

>> well, he did better -- if you're a democratic voter, okay, he did better in this debate than he did the previous debate. and the fact that he is the front runner and was able to survive relatively well on stage, no one is goingat to write any big celebration for joe biden yet but i think he was able to right the ship a little bit and i think the top tier is still the top tier. >> tucker: the hostility toward biden from the left, and biden is a member of the left, i mean, biden, the issues, really isn't different from any of the other candidate standing up there, but they don't trust him and they don't like him and they are sniping at him pretty relentlessly. i don't think i'm imagining that, am i? >> you are not. in fact, even mayor de blasio had the gall to basically go. after joe biden the entire time but why did he do with that? if you are in a debate, tactically, you want to get attention by going after the person that the front runner. it would be interesting to see how joe biden would match up against warren or sanders because that's where the real tension in the party is.

people in the democratic party are dismayed. h you had michael moore out there today saying michelle obama is our only hope and that's another fantasy. if they don't deal with the reason that they lost in 2016, and really deal with it, they are looking at a situation like i talked about with bob beckel. let me also draw you a contrast real quickly. the last two nights the democrats were in michigan. that is a state that they lost by an inch but they need to wins it by a mile. they spent the last two nights basically out-liberaling each other to the left. meanwhile, what is president trump do? he went to ohio tonight, why did he go there? every republican needs to winhi ohio. he wanted by nine points and he doesn't want to leave anything to chance and he took this opportunity to say okay, but i draw a contrast between what everybody wants on the left tonight and me and let you all decide. and if joe biden is one of the biggest problems, you still to win the electoral college. i know i'm a broken record on that, however, it is true, and

until pete buttigieg has his dream of dismantling the electoral college, which isn't going to happen in our lifetime. when joe biden said he wants to get rid of fossil fuels in ten years, do you think that president trump isn't going to hammer him on that in those three states, indiana, ohio, ano kentucky?? that's the perfect reason to. joe biden doesn't need to do that but he can't straddle the fence and be all things to progressive and still hold onto what he says as the majority of the democratic party. >> tucker: really quick, tell me why michelle obama getting in is a fantasy. >> well, one, she's never going to do it. i think that is the case. let's say, if michelle obama decides to get in the race, i will donate a month's salary to your favorite charity. how about that?ar because i think -- >> tucker: my favorite charity will be the stop michelle obama the from becoming president foundation. >> i just think, she doesn't

even like politics. j they have a great life. she doesn't want to run. in fact, she might not even be able to run. if barack obama is going to be too moderate for this new crowdg then i don't know if evenn michelle obama would have a m chance. but she's not going to run. do you think she's going to run? >> tucker: i don't, but i do think that this field is weak and i've never seen a group in a primary paint themselves into boxes faster than them. >> i agree. if you have 25 people and out of those 25 you can't find anybody, and you are hoping the former first lady of the united states is going to come in and save you you have a much bigger problem on your hands and trying to win 2020. you have a bigger problem going into 2024 and 2028. you are looking at me so skeptical. >> tucker: no, i'm not. i'm processing. dana perino, thank you so much. we are going to rejoin thein president. he's in ohio talking about energy policy.

>> president trump: i love oil, the number one producer ofe national gas. the number one everything having to do with energy. number one anywhere in theth world. we are reversing decades of calamitous trade policies that led other countries to pillage our jobs, plunder ourol factori, and devastate ohio communities and communities in every state. the era of economic surrender is over.ta [cheers and applause] >> president trump: when you look at what they've done to your jobs over a period of time, nafta was one of the worst deals ever made and probably the worso deal. you still have empty buildings, empty factories, but now, they're getting filled up pretty fast or being knocked down for brand-new ones. we have hundreds of new companies pouring into the united states.

my first week in office, i went through the united states from one of the last administrations, worst sell outs. it would've destroyed our automobile industry, it would have destroyed manufacturing in this country. and maybe that's what president obama meant when he said you can't produce manufacturing jobs anymore in the united states, because he would've signed trans-pacific partnership and he would have been right. i killed it. [cheers and applause] and by the way, tpp, trans-pacific partnership would have destroyed the automobile industry in this country. already, they shipped down 30% of your jobs to mexico, undero the new usmca, that's mexico anx canada, we got to get them to vote on that because that's incredible deal.bl

but under the new -- it's going to be very hard for companies to leave you, to fire you, to go down, to make their product,le whatever it may be, to send it back into the united states with no tax, all we end up with is unemployment and taxes and empty buildings. so they've got to vote on the usmca. before i took office, foreign countries ripped us off, robbed us blind, and pushed us around, but america is not beinf pushed around anymore. do you realize that? [cheers and applause] >> president trump: i think i got that from working in ohio for two summers. we've taken the toughest ever action to stand up to china's trade abuse and i just announced another 10% tariff on $300 billion worth of chinese products that come into our country.

[cheers and applause]] and that's on top of the 25% that we take of $250 billion coming in from china and don't let them tell you, the fact is, china devalues their currency, they pour money into their system, they pour it in. and because they do that, you are not paying for those tariffs, china's paying for those tariffs. [cheers and applause] for the last 20 years, china has taken hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars out of our country and now, we are stopping the theft of american jobs, we are stopping the theft of son many other things happening, including intellectual property. they steal our intellectual

property. and you know, i think i want to try and make a deal with us but i'm not sure because the word is, i feel, they want to wait until they get -- oh, they are praying. they are praying. they would like to see a new president in a year and a half so they could continue to rip off the united states like they've been doing for the last 25 years! w [boos] they would love to see a guy like sleepy joe biden, who has no clue what the hell he is doing. [boos] they would say to sleepy joe, sir, just sign right there. oh, okay. i will sign. we've been losing hundreds of billions of dollars a year to

china and it has to stop. and they understandpr it. president xi is a good man. he's a friend of mine. he understands it.st and until such time, as there is a deal, we will be taxing the hell out of china. that's all there is. [cheers and applause] if foreign countries don't want to pay a tariff, i have a simple solution. make your product in america, come on back to the united states, come on back to ohio, there is no tariff! there is no tariff! [cheers and applause] [crowd chanting "usa"]

thanks to steel tariffs, hundreds of thousands of tons, think of this, were dumped on our shores. and steel is like something else. o it's not quality. they were dumping garbage. they call it sand steel. they collect dirt steel. it was mixed up. it was bad stuff. and we didn't want to use that for our jet fighters and for our beams that hold up buildings.t but they were dumping tremendous quantities of steel and what was happening is, united states steel and all of our companies were going virtually out of business and i stopped it. i put on a 25% tariff, billions of dollars is now pouring into our treasury, and our steel companies and our steelworkers are coming back. [cheers and applause] right here in ohio, nucor, a great steel company, and a steel

company that is doing great again. nucor has announced an $85 million upgrade in marion. [cheers and applause] steel announced plans to build a new $150 million steel mill in cuyahoga heights and cleveland cliffs announced a new $700 million plan in a very good place that i like a lot, toledo, toledo, ohio. [cheers and applause] and this was unthinkable because four years ago, steel plants were closing. they weren't expanding and they weren't building new plants in florida, north carolina, south carolina, all over, not just ohio. on issue after issue, democrats have forgotten who it is that

they are supposed to represent. they forgot. i wonder why they forgot. the job of elected officials is to represent american citizens. the radical democrats. even support deadly sanctuary cities, which releas dangerous criminals onto our streets. sanctuary cities. [boos] and many of the places that have sanctuary cities and many of the people that live there, they don't want them. they don't want them. they are dangerous, they are not good, here are just a few examples. in san francisco, an illegal alien was arrested no fewer thax ten times in the span of less than one year for numerous counts of burglary and theft, yet, each time, san francisco defied federal authorities and set him free.

and bad things happened when they set him free. a sanctuary jurisdiction in california recently released a criminal alien from jail. the very next month, the same individual was arrested for rape and then, beyond anything you would even believe, a horrible thing happened. but yet again, he was released back into your community. after a sanctuary city in a new jersey released an alien charged with domestic violence, he was arrested in missouri for the murders of three people. in the bizarre world view of the absurd and hard left, they have no problem destroying the lives of innocent americans for a single politically incorrect thought. but they want to virtually, and you know this, you know this, they want virtual immunity for

illegal aliens who have committed horrible crimes and murder. [boos] horrible crimes and murder. republicans believe our cities should be a sanctuary for law-abiding americans, not criminal aliens. [cheers and applause] and, yes. we just won a big lawsuit last week. in fact, one of my lawyers, for winning that lawsuit, is here tonight. i gave him a little reprieve. we need a lot of lawyers in the white house. we get sued so much so unfairly but we are winning thosese lawsuits left and right. but one of them is here. he said, i would love to go to a rally.

i said, i'm going to a place called cincinnati, ohio. you deserve it. we just won the lawsuit on the wall. [cheers and applause] we just won the lawsuit on the wall, did you hear that? and we are building the wall faster and better than ever. it's time for democrats to end sanctuary cities and catch and release. you know you do? you catch them and then you release them. and you say will you please report back in four years from now? but only 2% come back. you know why? because they are not the smartest. they are not the smartest.u they are the ones we don't want to have come back. only 2% show up. a catch and release, we could end it immediately if the democrats cared. so what we are doing is

something else. we are keeping them out altogether. we are replacing random migration and we are replacing the lottery system. how about the lottery system? how about lotteries? this was chuck schumer. you put the name in a basket, the country puts the name in the basket, and you pick people out of the lottery. well, let's see, this one is a, murderer, this one robbed four banks, this one, i better not say. this one, another murder. ladies and gentlemen, anotherr murderer. think of this. do you think they are going to put their great citizens, they have great citizens, like wewe have great people. you think those people are going into a lottery? no. and then, we get these people coming in and we hold it against the country. the country isn't based on that. the country, just take a look, look at the people they put into these lotteries. it's a disgrace.

and how we've done this for so many years, folks, how we havee. done this, it's an immigration system that's totally broken and we are going to win the house. we are going to win the senate. we're going to win the presidency, and we are going to do a merit-based immigration system. merit-based. [cheers and applause] merit-based immigration. and we need that. because we have companies coming in from all over the world and we need good workers, we need good people. we are down to 3.5% unemployment. we need people. but we want people to come in based on merit, not based on some lottery put in by a government. [cheers and applause] democrats have never been farther outside the mainstream. liberal politicians want to eliminate private health care

and force everyone all to the government plan. remember the lies from the previous administration? if you like your plan, you can keep your plan! if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor! 28 times, one lie after another, 28 times it was said and it turned out to be a total lie. [boos] my administration is defending your right to choose the plan and doctor that is best for you. [cheers and applause] we are offering right now plans up to 60% cheaper than obamacare and we will always protect patients with pre-existing conditions. always. always. [cheers and applause] virtually every top democrat,

also now supports late-term abortions. [boos] and then you have a governor of virginia, it's not only late-term abortions, it's killing the baby after the baby is born. how about that? think of that. think of that. that's why i've asked congress to prohibit extreme late-term abortion because republicans believe that every child is a sacred gift from god. [cheers and applause]

democrats are now the party of high taxes, high crime, open borders, late-term abortion, and they are the party, frankly, of socialism. [boos]io the republican party is the party of freedoms, the party of the american worker, the american family, we are the party of the american dream. [cheers and applause] i'm fighting for you each and every day. i had a great life. i used to get great publicity. nobody got better publicity. i had such a great life, it was so easy. my great wife, the first lady, melania, she said, she said you

know, you've always been a hard worker, you love to work. but your life was a lot easier in the olden days. but i love it. you know why i love it? because we are accomplishing so much, nobody ever thought it would be possible to do the things that we are doing. [cheers and applause] even a thing like right to try, right? right to try. they have been trying to get that for years and years and years. that's people that are really sick, terminally ill, they couldn't get medicine. we have the greatest doctors, the greatest clinics, the greatest technicians in the world. they couldn't get anything. they'd travel to asia, if they had money. they traveled to europe, they traveled all over the world, hoping for a cure. if they had no money, they'd just go home, they died. they had no hope. for 44 years, they've been trying to get right to try. we are so advanced in medicine,

we have a lot of things that probably work or possibly workrk but we weren't allowed legally to give that to these people that were so sick. you know why? because they didn't want this drug if it didn't work to hurt the people but the people were terminally ill. so i got it approved. and it wasn't easy. it was complicated. the insurance companies didn't want to do it, the government didn't want to do it.co the doctors didn't want to do it. tremendous liability. when our country didn't want to do it, they say, well, if it doesn't work, we are going to get sued, i say, so they will sign an agreement! very strong, one page. take all liability away from the united states, from the drug companies, from the doctors, all liability. they are terminally ill, let'sth try it. and you know what? l it's been a miracle. so many people have done so well.

it's great. m we got it done. what i said about the agreement they had these great lawyers and they said, gee, that's a good idea. they've been working at this for years. they said that's a good idea. how about getting it to me in two hours? right to try, it's a greatut thing. but we have so many thingsgs like that. i have lists that you wouldn't even believe. i have lists go on for pages of things we've done. we're releasing a plan to allow companies to release lower-cost drugs from other countries. it's a very unfair system. our country pays the highest prices in the world. last year was the first time

in 51 years that drug pricing for prescription drugs actually came down. now we are going to bring it down by a lot. we are going to bring it down a lot and now, so other countries, here's an example. canada pays half the price for a lot of drugs that we do. so we have a great governor in the state of florida, ron desantis. he calls me up, doing a great job, and he was at three and he went to 70. that's a pretty good increase, right? ron desantis, a great governor, he comes to me and he goes, you know, if you buy the drugs, if we buy the drugs, because this is so botched up, we have a middle man, it's not a good situation. he said if i could go and buy the drugs from canada, i could save 50%. i said, do it. do it! and if you can buy them fromid

like, like, remember, used to scream when i was winning states, not getting the delegates that i was entitled to, and i say, the system is rigged. well, the drug system is rigged. it's rigged. so if we can buy the same drugs made by the same pharmaceutical company from europe or from canada or from other places, at a big, deep discount, we are doing it and we are giving them the right to do it. [cheers and applause] it just happened today. >> tucker: the president is speaking in ohio.] we are monitoring every moment of it. we will bring you news as it happens. but as promised, we want to unpack the democratic debatel from last night. make no mistake about where the polls are. joe biden is, despite what they may tell you, not the democratic front runner. senator kamala harris of california is. she was employing plenty of doublespeak last night to make certain she doesn't lose the lead. lisa boothe has more on that.

she's a senior fellow at independent women's voice and she joins us tonight. >> hi, tucker. >> tucker: so, lisa, clearly the harris campaign believes that they are in the poll position here and they want to maintain that. how would you assess her efforts to keep her front runner status last night? >> i thought she got her but kicked by senator tulsi gabbard. look, kamala harris reminds me l lot of hillary clinton where she is smart, she presents herself well, but she has no core convictions, and that's very evident in her ever changing position on health care. just to walk you through the timeline a little bit, on her position, so in 2017, she cosponsored bernie sanders' medicare for all bill, which eliminates private insurance, she was the first democrat to do so in 2017. then, in january of 2019, she doubled down on eliminatingth private insurance, even if you like your plan.

then you go to may, she walked that stance back, fast-forward to june, if you're still with me on this, fast-forward to june during first debate, it's during the first debate, she raised her hand again saying she would eliminate private insurance, only to walk it back the next day and then fast forward to this week, where we are now, she is now introducing her own plan, trying to putef herself in between bernie sanders on the left and joe biden on the right, and essentially what her plan does is in ten years, it moves everyone to a government-run option but it includes a marketplace for private insurers that are heavily regulated. but here's the kicker. it still kicks everyone off of their employer-based plan and here she is talking to cnn about doing just that. >> yes. it's important that i explain that because i think there was a misinterpretation of that on this debate stage tonight. employers right now offer their employees a private plan.

i am separating the employerir from your health care. so you have the option of signing up for a private plan under medicare but it's not going to be through your employer. >> so tucker, think about this. that's how most people get their health care is through their employer. we are talking aboutut 156 million people. so democrats right now, whether it's medicare for all or whether it's kamala harris' plan that she just introduced or talking about mass destruction to america's health care, if you go back to 2010, i was in that election cycle. i had a front row seat. obamacare because democrats 63 seats in the house, six senate seats, solely on that issue alone. i think democrats are tempting fate with talking about these mass disruptions once again. >> tucker: i mean, didn't labor unions, loyal to the democratic party for the last hundred years, spend decades and decades and decades negotiating health care plans for theirs members, forgoing salary

and and then kamala harris, a democratic, is saying none of that is valid anymore? how does that work? >> that's a point that representative tim ryan brought up during the first line of the debate. he brought up that very point when he was sparring with senator bernie sanders and some of the other democrats on the stage about this. the thing i don't understand is, if you look at it, 90% of americans are insured, and if you look at gallup polling, i think 70% believe that their coverage is excellent or great. so i don't understand the concept of going in with a wrecking ball to what americans already believe is excellent or great. senator chuck schumer actually made this point in 2015, looking back on the 2010 midterm elections, he said, look, we blew it as a party because there is such a small percentage of registered voters that are impacted by obamacare. we should've focused on all these other issues that are important to the middle class and i really just think that democrats are put putting themselves in a really dangerous position by moving forward and

talking about, once again, mass disruption on such a large scale for 156 million people with just kamala harris' plan alone. >> tucker: yeah, it's like transgender bathrooms for the sake of a small group, everyone has to turn their lives upside down. lisa boothe, great to see you. >> thanks, tucker, have a great night. >> tucker: you, too. reminder, there is a trump event in progress in ohio. we are monitoring it for newsworthy moments. the important moments will air right here, we guarantee it, but we also promised to cover thee aftermath of the debate last n night. we just talked about kamala harris.us so far she's got a free pass from the press on her presidential run. they want her to be the next president so theyt are overlooking her background. she was a former prosecutor, as you know, but the press has let her rebrand as a crusader for prison reform. no one called her on it until

last night. congressman tulsi gabbard of hawaii definitely called her on it.ly watch this. >> there are too many examples to cite but she put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana. she blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts force her to do just so. she kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of california. there is no excuse for that and the people who suffered under your reign as prosecutor, you owe them an apology. >> tucker: that was an electric moment. it might be why congresswoman gabbard was the most googled candidate since the debate last night. she joins us tonight. congresswoman, thanks a lot for coming on. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: so, i haven't heard anybody say what you said. why are you the first person to say this? >> look, voters deserve to know the truth. the decision that the american people have before them is ahe

critical one. the decision that the democrats have before them about who theis nominee should be is a very w important one. they deserve to know the truth about the candidates that are before them and especially on this issue of criminal justice reform that's impacting so many people across this country because it is so broken and it is an unjust criminal justice system. senator kamala harris, who is in a position to be able to make a difference when she was serving as attorney general. and as i pointed out last night, she did not fulfill that promise that she claims to have, which is to be a champion for the people, to be a champion for the oppressed. in fact, she did the exact opposite. she made decisions that ended up hurting people. that ended up hurting minorities, hurting poor people in the state of california, which is concerning to me for someone who wants to be the president of the united states, and frankly, is claiming to be a prosecutor president.ts >> tucker: i think this is a really interesting debate. this topic deserves a real debate.

you have a perspective. she's got a perspective. let's hear them both. she would not engage with you and that's what i found contemptible but actually fascinating. she dismissed you and her spokesman dismissed you even more savagely as a putin apologist. what you make of that? >> a couple of things. first of all, what i was was sharing was not a matter of opinion. these are widely reported factse and reports about her tenure as attorney general in california. her career as a prosecutor. and we are not talking about something that happens, you know, 30 years ago or 50 years ago, these are things that she did in her last job, just before she was elected as u.s. senator and she should be held accountable for them. she's claimed to be very proud of this record so answer for it. the voters deserve to know. but you're right, she refused to answer the questions, she refused to engage on the debate stage, and the responses from her and her campaign, after thef

debate, was basically to lobby cheap smears and basically say that i am a traitor or foreign agent or a trojan horse oro whatever was and trying to feed those talking points to the media. so, you know, this is concerning on many levels about how a senator harris would govern as president. that if there are those who are critics of her or her record, you know, for me, i am two-time veteran of middle east deployment. i'm a soldier, currently still serving in the army. i'm a sitting member of congress, and she is smearing me in this way. imagine what she would do to anyone else. >> tucker: it's a fair point. that's a fair point. it's the first refuge of the contemptible. what'd you think of cnn's debate? the way that they ran it? were you satisfied with that? >> i think it had a little more decorum than we saw in the first debate. but you know, look, i wish there

was a more fair and balanced w approach in how every candidate would have the right amount of time to address these important issues that we face. there are many of them, 60 seconds and 30 seconds, short periods of time to be able to dig into these issues. so this is where i am looking forward to be able to continue to build the support for our campaign, to make it to the qualifications for the next debates in september and october. >> tucker: the one place you don't want to be in washington is outside the status quo, as you are. that's when you start getting it from all sides. >> tucker, this is -- you know, a lot of the conversation around this and the things that we are talking about, again, really come down to valuing this role, this job of president, and that most responsibility of commander-in-chief and appreciating the freedoms thatsi we hold dear in this country.

you know, if i have the honorw, and privilege of serving as president, i can guarantee you that if there are critics to my record or people who disagree with my policies, i am not going to label them as foreign agents or traitors. having this vigorous debate is a part of who we are as a country and it's something that we've got to appreciate and actually honor the voters and the people of this country in making sure that we are providing them with the truth and the information that they need to make the best decision possible. >> tucker: amen. tulsi gabbard, thank you for coming on tonight.ha >> thank you. >> tucker: we are going to speaking, as you know, in cincinnati, ohio, tonight with supporters. we'll be back. >> president trump: we have tremendous potential to go up. with your help, we will elect a republican congress to create a safe, modern, fair, and a lawful system of immigration.

we will enact trade deals that ensure more products are proudly stamped with those fourr beautiful words, made in the united states. or, made in america. you can use either one. made in america, made in the usa. we will achieve new breakthroughs in science and medicine and i see what they are doing. i see it. they show me. the things we are doing in our the things we are doing in our country today, they have never happened before it. we will be ending the aids epidemic shortly in america and curing childhood cancer veryho shortly. [cheers and applause] we will defend privacy, free-speech, religious liberty, and of the right to keep and bear arms. [cheers and applause]

and just remember, with the democrats, there is no second amendment. you can forget about keep and bear arms. you can forget it. [boos] above all, we will never stop fighting for the values that bind us together as one america. we will never, ever stop fighting. we support, protect, and defend the constitution of the united states. [cheers and applause] we stand with our incredible heroes of law enforcement. [cheers and applause]it

we believe in the dignity of work and we believe in the sanctity of life. [cheers and applause] and we believe that faith and family, not government and bureaucracy, are the true american way. [cheers and applause] we believe that children should be taught to love our country, honor our history, and always be proud patriotic americans. [cheers and applause] and we will always live by the words of our national motto, in god we trust. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] two days ago, i spoke at the

400th anniversary of the first representative legislative assembly at jamestown, virginia. it was beautiful. it was incredible. i was, i must tell you, i was reminded of so many great things in our country. we have been blessed with such a remarkable and priceless heritage. we are the greatest republic on the face of the earth and we are going to keep it that way. [cheers and applause] every day of my presidency, we will never forget that we are americans and the future belongs to us. the future belongs to all of you, the future belongs to the greatest movement in the history of our country. [cheers and applause] and with your help and your

devotion, and your drive, we are going to keep on working. we are going to keep on fighting and we are going to keep on winning, winning, winning. [cheers and applause] we are one people and one family saluting one great american flag. [cheers and applause] we all share the same home. we all share the same hearts. we all share the same love ofar almighty god. [cheers and applause] together, with the great and proud people of ohio, we are making america wealthy again. we are making america strong again. we making america safe again.

we are making america great again and with your vote, in 2020, we will keep america great! thank you, ohio. thank you. [cheers and applause] ♪ >> tucker: that was the president speaking in ohio tonight, going out on his signature song.ng "you can't always get what you s want" by the rolling stones. a short time ago, the president went after one candidate particularly hard from last night. watch this. >> they would love to see a guyy like sleepy joe biden who has no clue what the hell he is doing. [boos] they would say to sleepy joe, sir, just sign right there. oh, okay.ay i will sign.

>> tucker: two nights in a row of debates on cnn. last night, remarkably, after two years of russia obsession, russia and robert mueller were not even mentioned.. instead, you saw don lemon asking questions about the president being a racist that was the first night. was the second night any better than the first? here's a hint, no.t >> why are you the best candidate to heal the racial divide that exists in this country today that has been stoked by the president's racist rhetoric? after the president's racist tweets attacking baltimore ends elijah cummings, the mayor of baltimore slammed the tweets and said to the president, help us. send the resources that we need to rebuild america. so what would you do for baltimore and other cities that need help? >> tucker: chris plante, the host of "the chris plante show," which is fantastic and worth listening to, we had a great time breaking down the first debates. he is back againri tonight to

assess his former employer, cnn. chris plante joins us. p if so, there was don lemon out there. the president's racist! both questions were pretext to calling the president a racist. he gets a childish thrill from that. is that a legitimate debate question? >> no. this whole thing is a love fest. we've got jake tapper on there who's a former democratic hill staffer. he worked for the former democratic who married chelsea clinton. now on msnbc, and of course, there is don lemon. there are no hardball questions. there were no gotcha questions. there are no track questions. they are all going to see each other at hot tin roof on martha's vineyard. it's august, they are going on vacation together in a couple weeks. their kids play together, they go to school together, it's corrupt. the system is corrupt, what can i tell you? you know perfectly well that it is. we all know perfectly well that it is, and it's not really even a political debate. it's a television show. and cnn is part of the democratic party's apparatus.

that's that. >> tucker: that is that. and when you say it is this kind of loose conspiracy of personal affiliation, you are saying that because you've seen it. >> oh, yeah. i've seen it firsthand. i know people that work there and look, i can watch andd i know how to read what they are doing and i know most of these people. they are not terrible people but they are democrats and the team is the team. it's a team effort. if you don't know that, you haven't been paying attention. >> tucker: that's right andd you are not seeing it through the correct lens. that's exactly right. great to have you tonight.uc >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: james comey, the former fbi director, leaked classified memos and an effort to stoke the bogus russia investigation. that is a crime. but reports today indicate he will not be prosecuted for that crime. mark penn is a former advisor to bill and hillary clinton. he joins us tonight. t mark, thanks for coming on. roger stone is facing the

likelihood of life in prison for being accused of lying during the course of the investigation. what should he think when he sees jim comey get a pass on committing a much more profound crime? >> even by itself, the roger stone prosecution was the most egregious, trying to trip him up at the last minute or to find something on him when they couldn't find anything in his personal life, and arrest him with guns and cnn ablaze here. look, i think now, they have discovered that comey probably committed crimes but we are not going to prosecute him. i don't think he is totally off the hook yet. there are other parts of the investigation. so we just going to get a slap on the wrist. that's what's going happen here. >> tucker: how dispiriting is that? does this make you as sad and cynical as it makes me about our justice system? >> we are not having any accountability for an investigation that was clearly a partisan investigation that didn't have a real basis which tied up the country for two

years. look, you just saw that debate and there wasn't a single question or answer suggesting there was a trump/russia conspiracy. that whole thing was gone. right? after two full years, we know it was a fake investigation. a partisan one. is anyone going to be held accountable? that's the question on people's minds now. >> tucker: yeah.h. in ten seconds, the answer is, what do you think? is someone going to be held accountable? >> i'm dubious but hopeful because there's a lot left to investigate. >> tucker: yeah. there's an awful lot left to investigate. mark penn, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> tucker: unbelievable amount of news tonight and so much in fact we didn't have time to fit in "final exam" but have no fear, "final exam" will appear tomorrow night.tl a day late, but even better. it's like wine, a little better with age. you will enjoy it more. that's it for us tonight though. tune in every night at 8:00 p.m.

to the show that is the sworn and totally sincere enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. the great sean hannity is live from new york city.y, have a great night, see you tomorrow. ♪ >> sean: welcome to "hannity." we start with a fox news alert. coming up tonight, rush limbaugh will be here. as moments away. first president trump wrapped up a massive rally in the all-important state of ohio, and cincinnati, where he just roasted the uninspiring radical far left field of democrats that want to replace him. coming up, we are going to show you how president trump responded to his 2020 rivals and we will break down last night's debate, two nights, basically another complete and utter train wreck. but first, we do turn to another major, damning developing story surrounding america's most holier than thou, super patriot, knows better than all of us, jim comey. "the hill"'s j