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i could not be more proud of el paso in the way they responded to this tragedy today. happy to take your questions. >> regarding the manifesto and everything in it and immigration in all of that does any of this fall and two -- leland: a "fox news" alert and leland vittert in washington d.c. joined in need of vocal in los angeles continuing "fox news" coverage of the mass killing at walmart in el paso texas. here's what we know. this morning at about 10:30 mountain time 12:30 eastern at a 21-year-old gunman identified by police as a white male from 600 miles away opened fire. he killed 20 people and wounded 262 please say they are investigating it as a hate crime and delayed shooter left behind the manifesto. within 30 minutes he had killed those 20 people wounded 26 and was apprehended by police but
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they say without incident. he did surrender. the governor tonight saying this was not a time for politics as there are still bodies to be recovered in we are hearing horrifying stories of as you can see shoppers using cards to bring the wounded out. there are still families that are wondering if their loved ones are alive, dead or injured and families that are still separated from the chaos that has ensued inside about walmart. beto o'rourke the former city councilmember of el paso former congressman from el paso has returned from the campaign trail back to his hometown and his outside one of the hospital for the victims are in. let's listen in. >> would the do tell you tell them and what did they tell you? >> i told them i am so amazed at how strong they are. we met a woman who was shot in the chest. the bullet passed through her
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lungs. she is having her lungs drained of fluid right now. she has learned her mother who was with her when shot and her aunt was shot so three family members all of whom were shot all of whom are here tonight surrounded by family and these extraordinary nurses and doctors and staff at university medical center. we are hearing similar things about the staff. those waiting rooms are full of people and a woman just now who said she hasn't been able to hear anything about her husband for the last hour. it was also shot in the chest and has not been as responsive but the doctors tell her that he seems to be doing better minute by minute. i can only imagine what she is feeling right now. she told me, this is got to
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change. she said this keeps happening in this country. why is this happening? why did we allow this to happen? this has to change. her husband of other members of the family and her little children were all at a table selling merchandise to raise funds for the soccer team that she coaches. doing something great for their community, never expecting something like this to happen and now pulling for her husband to make it through right now. her kids witnessed the entire thing. so many families, so many extraordinary people, so much hope in that waiting room right now, so much strength in individual icu rooms that we got to see. makes me incredible proud of el paso and be survivors. but they are also asking us to do something about this and yes
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it's the gun laws in yes it's the universal background checks and yes we should stop selling weapons of war to our communities but i think we also have to confront this hatred that i have never seen in my lifetime. we certainly have not seen it in el paso. in a city of almost 700,000 will we had five murders the entire year. the average over the last 10 years of 18. we have seen that average on one day. this is not normal and it is not acceptable. we cannot just move on from this and the folks that i spent time with do not want us to move on from this. [speaking spanish] leland: presidential candidates beto o'rourke outside when the
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hospitals that the wounded are inside literally fighting for their lives. it mr. o'rourke talked a little bit about the gunman, about the guns and the gun laws. the governor of texas earlier saying that with body still inside the walmart where these people were shot and killed the bodies have not been recovered the governor said. he wanted to focus on memorials and not focus on politics. it's noteworthy anita that as we hear so many stories about the gunman and his motives etc. we are also learning about the stories of heroism, the very best of humanity and the very worst of times whether it's the shoppers we saw bringing out the wounded on those cards, whether it is perhaps the people who are lining up around the block to donate blood to the wounded and for those who still need transfusions through the night
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and also the stori in that 911 call and ran towards the sound of gunfire nita. anita: it's amazing the stories of resiliency with her today in the face of this unspeakable tragedy and we heard congressman o'rourke's talk about some of the people he met in the waiting room who were waiting to find out about their loved ones. he said there was a woman whose cousin had been shot in she didn't have any information about him. those people were still filled with hope so certainly leland vittert community that has been through so much today. you can even describe the unspeakable horror. yet they remain hopeful and governor abbott said earlier today he wants to put texas on a path of hope that he and other law enforcement communities would be standing side-by-side with these victims. again at least 20 dead and
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dozens more wounded after gunman opened fire at a walmart near a mall with as many as 3000 shoppers inside. it was just a normal saturday afternoon. the suspects surrendering to police and they spoke about that earlier. >> we must do one thing today, one thing tomorrow and each and every day after this. we must unite and especially i want to emphasize the importance of every man and woman black, brown, white whatever your race may be now is the time for texans to come together to support each other to help these families in need and to make sure that el paso is going to be able to take forward what it needs to take.
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anita: we want to listen to the comments now. congressman beto o'rourke speaking outside of the hospital there in el paso. >> we are seeing it all over this country here in el paso and synagogues outside of san diego and pittsburgh. i mentioned the mosque in victoria texas being burned to the ground hate crimes on the rise. folks this did not happen by accident. we cannot just pretend that this is who we are, our future, our fortune. this is owing to the rhetoric used by some for political gain to drive us further apart and make us afraid. and we have got to stand up to it and we have got to provide a much more positive alternative. that alternative is everything that you are seeing now in response to what has happened here today. thank you. i am just so proud of the people
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of this community. all of those that i just met who were shot, who were pulling throughs who are bringing them through right now, the amazing medical providers and first responders around the scene. this committee is coming together. the fact that at our luncheon today there were too many people and we had to take reservations for people to come back tomorrow. this community has really turned out in an overwhelming showing of love and support and encouragement but i'm also hearing from this community that we cannot accept this and we cannot allow this to be our fate. i heard that directly from the family members who have a loved one who is hanging on for dear life right now. anita: we been listening to
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congressman beto will work just outside one of the hospitals in el paso, texas talking about his experience inside the hospital talking with the victims, talking with people who don't yet know the fate of their loved ones. some are still in surgery. they don't know what has happened to their loved ones but they have a sense of hope for the future. he said the hospital has received more food from the community and donations than they ever could have expected. leila and he said something very interesting. he said el paso such a peaceful and safe community. on the average they have five murders per year and yet today those numbers were surpassed in an unbelievable way. he also said it's his feeling that preliminary indications suggest that this crime was motivated by hatred and racism. we are going to learn more about that in the days to come as this investigation unfolds. leland: we certainly will in the governor of texas talk a little
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bit not only thought it ring likely a hate crime and he wanted it to be prosecuted as such by the capitol murder case but he also talked about the danger of politicizing this too fast and move from the issues of what happened here and comforting those who have lost loved ones in caring for those who are wounded not moving too quickly on to the politicization and big gun control and what we could see from beto o'rourke the former congressman now presents a candidate who left the campaign trail to return to el paso. in el paso all day has been garrett tenney. he began the day at a border crossing facility that a number of democratic congresspeople have visited and transitioned as the first shots ring out. i can only imagine the images that you have seen and dealt with today are coming back to mind particularly the father who
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who you talk to and son perhaps you talk to who had lost his mother. garrett leland you are talking about a lot of folks hoping they'll be able to find their loved ones. there are those also who are filled with desperation just searching for answers about their loved ones. there were three women that just came here and they said they are still looking for their mother 87-year-old angie engle. she left for walmart this morning and they have not heard from her since. they are desperate for answers. one of the daughters saying i jt want to know where she is. i want to know where she is, i live for if she is dead. where is her body? a lot of folks here better in that situation 3000 people
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inside that walmart a lot of folks are still searching for answers whether their loved ones are still with them or not. it paints a picture for you over this entire community is going through including those witnesses that we spoke to earlier at the scene just within moments a son who dropped off his mother at the front of that walmart so she could walk and while she found a parking spot. by the time he parked his car he heard gunshots ring out. he got out and ran inside. by the time he got there he saw his mother lying there on the floor with a dozen or so other people dead with blood all over the floor. all they could say to me was my mom is dead. that gives you a sense of the loss and the depth of loss in this community for so many people.
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>> at times like that is hard to be a reporter pete become a human being quite quickly. i'm struck on a night like tonight having covered a couple of these other events you talk to the police officers who go inside these crime scenes and they say everything is quiet inside that walmart as you can imagine. everything is frozen in time from when those shots initially ring out at 10:39 a.m. this morning and yet there is the constant ringing of cell phones of the people you just talked about calling their loved ones trying to desperately find them and hoping for the sake of hope and holding onto that to see if their cell phones are ringing or see if someone might answer and give them answers. i'm wondering as you talked to some of the police officers that are there not on camera but as they walked out what stories they are sharing with you.
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>> i can tell you a lot of them have not wanted to talk because it appears that of every person's heart strings. the couple that i did speak to you could tell they were doing their level best to do their job. this has been an hour after the shooting and they are still bringing people from inside walmart books that were hiding inside. we are trying to find them and bring them out to safety. what a difficult path this was for them. hundreds of law enforcement not us or z. were here at the scene. you mentioned the phones that you could hear ringing often. i spoke to several witnesses who said when the shots ring out and they started running some got left hind and they had no way to get in touch with their families and those phones are still on the phone. one witness about an hour ago told me they heard the shots
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fired and they were wondering what was happening. they were looking around and all of sudden around the corner in one of the aisles they saw several people rushing through the aisles with. they saw bottles of shampoo knocked all over the floor in the crowd was running towards them to get away from the gunman and get to the back of the store where they could hide for safety. that's the theme that these people saw and the experience they had and what it felt like in their where at least 20 bodies are still lying there in that walmart had. it's enough to bring grown men to their knees emotionally whether it happened just as they walked out or when i get home. we have some video from earlier that speaks to what law enforcement was doing there and upon enforcement officer holding his weapon in one arm and comforting a victim in the other.
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he's wearing a large police helmet. we are going to see if perhaps the control room can find that as you and i keep talking. did you see people come there and we talked about faith people coming looking for their mother and the heartbreaking story of a young man who had to see his mom die in the minutes after the shots ring out. is there anything out of this perhaps that is inspiring that you have seen, moments today that renew our hope in the human equation when there seems like there are so many reasons to be for large? garrett: i mentioned the story earlier one man who i spoke to that had just gotten out of the car with his elderly mother and they were walking into the walmart when the shots happen. he said the gunman was maybe 20 feet away from him. sin is the shots happen they
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turned around and he rushed his mother back to the car. they drove to the back of a parking lot, laid down in their seats instead of driving away when the shots were then being fired they didn't hear them anymore at least outside. that man got out of his car rather than driving away and ran up to those who were lying on the ground to check on them to see if there was anyone that he could help. meanwhile his mother is in the car and the gunman was still inside. he is. looking for anyone he could find. another witness i spoke to talked about folks in the back of the store when the shots ring out. they rushed to the back waiting for this situation to unfold. she described the scene back there. they were comforting one another calling loved ones to let them know that they were okay hugging each other and crying just out of fear as the gunshots moved
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closer wondering if they were going to be next. these people in situations like this so often they band together in tragic situations. you see the best of times and you also see the spend more time focusing if we can on the best understanding some folks had no exit. they were trapped by the gunman where he cornered people and try to funnel them into areas and then he would then shooting killed. any thoughts or have you heard about children who were and who were and they are separated from their parents? we heard from the governor and he said in a middle school they were trying to reunite families that they were talking about thousands of people inside of this walmart. are they staying for hours or days? what is the timeline?
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>> you also have to remember that they mentioned that school starts next week so a lot of families were here with her kids doing their back-to-school shopping in and referred to play on the weekend in front of this walmart there will be school groups of young kids who set up booths outside the walmart selling water bottles and various fund-raisers for the community. that's something that's normal and we haven't heard whether or not those kids that were there today, we heard they were outside of the walmart, what happened to those kids as a result of this. a lot of these families are still trying to come together to find a way forward. how do you go back to school on monday after something like this? >> this is just the very beginning of what people will live for a lifetime of the sights and sounds of that horrific day that is
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welcome back. 924 after the hour in el paso, texas and our coverage continues of the mass shooting in that community today where 20 people have been killed and dozens of other injured. many family members waiting to hear about the fate of their family and friends. correspondent jacqui heinrich has more. >> anita we know there were 20 people killed, 26 injured. they range in age from two to 82 years old and they are at two area hospitals. delta hospital, 11 victims there and university medical center said they are treating 13 victims ranging in age from two years old to senior citizens. one person being treated there has to come to their and passed away at the hospital. the governor is calling for unity as police confirmed they are investigating a manifesto allegedly written by the shooter a 21-year-old male. police have not broadcast his
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name in an effort not to glorify him and his network is not mentioning his name either. police said they are looking into whether or not the manifesto they are whereof is in fact the shooter's manifesto. police declined to elaborate on what was in it but he said it's enough to lead them to believe the shooting has the nexus of a hate crime. that prompted local officials to call again on the community to come together. but the soundbite there and it looks like we don't have it. we will get back to that later. medical centers to put out an urgent need for blood donations in people responded en masse. lines were seen around buildings in 100-degree weather and the fire department to tweet out a message saying they are at capacity for donations. under the criteria at least four deaths constitute a mass shooting. the shooting today brings us to a total of five mass shootings this year.
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proceeding at the gilroy garlic festival killed four people in a shooting in virginia beach that killed 12 and earlier this year shootings in illinois in sebring florida each killing five people. in 2018 there were six mass shootings including the tragedy at the high school and parkland florida that killed 17 people and in 2017 there were five mass shootings including in texas which took 26 lives. police say the shooter in this situation was arrested without incident. he surrendered to police without them ever firing a single shot. the texan government greg abbott is on the scene sharing updates consoling family members and first responders. the fbi is asking anybody who has video or photos from today to submit them and police are tweeting out if you want to help the victims and their families who are affected by this there is only one official donation site that is on their page.
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it is ccn foundation.org. want to help victims of the one and only place that the officials are directing you to. anita: jacqui thank you so much for that update in so many families in pain and unspeakable grief tonight. thank you for that information. leland. leland: bears and certainty as so many wonder is my loved one among the dead? are them on the injured? are they model the injured you can make phonecalls and tell us they are okay because they are at the hospital and had surgery? the fbi and atf are on the ground in el paso. the president has tweeted out saying governor abbott of texas will give full federal help in anything they need to again and complete this investigation. the governor said not only is it a capital murder vest issue but
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also a hate crime investigation with that we bring in maureen o'connell part of their evidence response team. maureen it's noteworthy that the governor said 10 hours after the first shots ring out, almost 11 hours that the bodies of the deceased are inside that walmart it's so long and so larger process and crime scene to get through. >> part of that has to do with the trajectory of the rounds that were fired in the bodies have to remain in place and tell they can get those details details down in a way that can be used in a court of law. the evidence will have to be packaged properly. they are going to have to measure the way the victims fell and try to figure out exactly where he was standing when he fired all of those rounds. it's a very laborious task but a
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very important one because the evidence has got to be done right in the fbi will always do it right. leland: there a lot of pictures from outside of three suspects house and it's noteworthy he lives some 600 miles away near dallas. this is allen, texas where you can see quite a few police cars outside of the suspects house. how did this process process were? we know the past suspects of mass shootings have tried to thwart law enforcement. how does the procedure work and what is the fbi and the teams on the scene going through right now? >> it's a relatively tricky one for the reasons you mentioned that if the parents or another family member were there and answered the door that would ally your fears lightly. he would then go through the room and clear each room which takes a bit of time and when the rooms are all cleared and it's
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code for an it's safe enough for the ert team to go and they go in and mark each and every room and every piece of evidence is photographed in place, identified, logged and then package. this has to be again it's very laborious and very meticulous but it is really important work and the gravity of that is understood. they know it's going to be a long night. they could be in their all night long depending on what they find. if they are finding ammunition and rounds. he could have had the whole basement to himself. leland: computers and hard drives and everything else. marine o'connell standing by in los angeles, thanks so much. we'll come back to you. now is to look at el paso the sun has set in el paso but as often happens on these horrific knife cellphones of the victims are still ringing inside the
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anita: welcome back to moneta olguin los angeles. it's just after 9:30 in el paso, texas where 20 people have lost their lives victims of the mass shooting. we want to go to reaction from the white house tonight because they are responding to this horrific crime.
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we have a statement from president trump. we have tweets saying, we want to go instead to mark meredith with that information. he is live in broque heights new jersey near bedminster where president trump is spending the weekend at a golf club. i understand you have that information from the white house. what are they saying tonight? >> i sure do. we heard from the president on twitter multiple times a day and we seen statements from the white house. the president has spoken with the texas governor and offered resources to the people of el paso including the fbi and atf. he brought up a presence tweet it we can show up on the screen the said quote today shooting in el paso was not only tragic it was an act of cowardice. i know i stand with everyone in this country to condemn today's hateful act. there were no reasons or excuses i will ever justify killing innocent people. the president went on to offer
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condolences from himself as well as first lady melania trump to the people of texas. we haven't seen the president on camera. he said said his golf club a few miles down the road from her rear. he'll he'll be heading back to washington tomorrow to an end. it's possible we will see him make some comments about the incident then that we are expecting to hear from the president tonight there we been hearing from several of the 2020 presidential candidates all day long. they have been speaking out. we have heard from texas congressman beto o'rourke the former congressman who is from el paso. i know we been playing the interview that he was giving at the top the hour. we were able to listen as the congressman talked about what running back to the place he calls home. >> i'm incredibly sad and it's very hard to think about this. but i will tell you el paso is the strongest place in the world
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this community is going to come together. i'm going back there right now to be with my family and to be with my hometown. >> beto o'rourke canceling some campaign events for the scheduled out west in making that trip back and he spoken to the first responders as well as the survivors of the perfect perfect attack that he isn't the only democrat for speaking out. california democratic senator kamala harris had this to say about what happened in el paso. >> there has to be an agreement with that we have as americans that it is unacceptable that we have these incidents where people are being slaughtered in our streets. >> senator harris with her words and we heard from the democratic front-runner joe biden saying
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he's offering thoughts and prayers but it's up to congress to address the gun violence situation in woodford from bernie sanders elizabeth warren and many democratic hopefuls talking about what's been happening at we also have statements from the attorney general offering full resources and making it weird that justice will be brought in this case. anita: mark in new jersey bringing reaction from the white house and many of the democratic candidates on the campaign trail everyone expressing their condolences for the 20 people who lost their lives tonight in el paso texas and of course their families. leland. leland: varying degrees of politicians on this campaign trail that made this somewhere between very political and not so political. beto o'rourke was walking that line in his earlier press conference outside of a hospital there in el paso, texas.
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when asked about the political implications of this the governor of texas greg abbott there speaking. he said there are bodies that have not been recovered from inside the walmart tonight. we need to focus on memorials, not politics and with that we bring in ryan leavitt professor of criminal justice at cal state san bernardino former officer of chronology as well. we appreciate you being here to take us through this. these are the facts as we know them that the police have put out. 10:39 a.m. gunshots were heard and the first 911 calls. 10:45 the first officer arrived 11 the 6:00 the suspect surrendered outside of the walmart after killing 20 people. they believe there is a nexus to hate crimes and they are investigating a manifesto. if you put all of this together at the 21-year-old suspect who live 600 miles away this does not seem to be a spur of the moment acts.
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>> no, and what we are seeing this as a rigorously interesting but terrible. we are seeing a trend of young people from 19 to 21 who are radicalized on the internet and then using the internet as a way to memorialize their violence inscribing it in a book of evil referencing others in the past. we said the senate report which came out earlier this week. it's chilling. you can get a copy on twitter prop 11. what we have seen in white supremacists neo-nazi -- >> i'm going to stop you right now. we are not going to speculate what is in the manifesto. the police wouldn't than the fbi would and then we are not going to be there. >> absolutely. leland: hold on. also i appreciate you adhering
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to this. where not going to mention his name either out of respect for the victims. we will mention their names and remember them but in general terms as we think about this there always in retrospect are warning signs in the police are 600 miles away. how long does this process call it whatever you want, radicalization, a move towards horrible thoughts and turning into action. this isn't something that happens even overnight. this is a long planned out thought, correct? >> yes but it's getting shorter. an al qaeda sympathizer was american. he got radicalized much more quickly than we have previously seen and that's been the trend. what i'm saying to you is yes we
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don't want to speculate that there is an apparent manifesto. if it is in fact true and we don't know that you are exact rewrite. leland: you make a very good point that people's inability to get them receive any material using the internet and the flash bang times seems to become shorter. professor we appreciate you being with us. we are against a hard right as we come up. i'm sorry sara got to get to the heartbreak and if i don't cut you off the computer will which is never good thing. coming up here at 8:45 just about 10 hours since shots ring out initially they are in el paso, texas. we are looking at pictures of the hospital that had been inundated with patients and victims many of whom loved ones
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>> you don't think about it but when it hits you it hits you. i had my two kids and we decided to make a run for it outside. anita: eyewitness accounts of a mass shooting in el paso, texas tonight leaving 20 people dead and dozens of others injured and a lone gunman in custody. maureen o'connell is back with us now. she is a former special agent with 25 years of experience who was on the evidence team response for the fbi. she knows exactly what law enforcement agents are doing tonight. i wonder for you to put up that picture of the suspect's house and we can see law enforcement
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agents outside of the house. marine you were talking earlier giving us a very descriptive account of what those law enforcement agents are doing tonight. he said they are going from room to room clearing each room marking every room marking every piece of evidence very laborious work. can you tell us more? >> sure. they probably had the help of the bomb squad or the hazmat group because you know we don't know what this person was into. indications would be available within the manifesto but one of the things i really want to talk about if it's okay some preventative measures that people can engage in. for example i think in this country have a crisis when it comes to security. there all kinds of solutions out there, not 100% but we have to start being serious about security. there all kinds of technologies
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critical infrastructure protection group. we look at these emerging technologies and we identify programs that are having a very positive impact in training people and first responders to stop the bleeding into. so the indicators. several of the people before me have said there are things that we would have seen beforehand. there are always signposts along the road and there are now artificial intelligence or ai and emerging technology that's going to help us hammer down on that. it's going to cost money and we just need to get used to it and we need to fund it. we need to take care of her kids schools, take care of our places of worship and shopping places. we just have to do it. i spent a couple of days a 14 hour day with silicon valley experts.
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anita: maureen, sorry we had to take a break but we'll continue with you now. sorry about that. when you talk about. incident indicators, what are those? what could law enforcement have detected about this individual that would have let them to any piece of knowledge about what he was planning to do? >> the funny thing about. incident indicators as they are rarely observed by long for me. these are the indicators that generally picked up by the general population. this goes along with what we talk about when you see something, say something. you have to get this information to your local fusion center your local fbi police or sheriff's office. we don't expect you to put all the pieces together. law enforcement who put this together but there's information out there like changes in behavior, changes in appearance acquisition of weapons all the
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things we have seen in some of the these incidences that are really important and taken separately don't mean anything. he put them together and you put them in front of the eyes of a trained investigator they come up with something and action can be taken. anita: i imagine investigators are calling for the suspect social media tonight and there are many reports out there about certain things that may have said -- that he may have said once social media. what would help investigators put the puzzle together to end up with help? >> they are looking for chat rooms but that manifesto like every manifesto is going to be a treasure trove of information clues and a roadmap where the people are participants or chat rooms. the chat rooms are the ones that help change ideology and people
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that law enforcement entities want to talk to. they are going to be scrubbing down all that stuff and they are probably looking on the deep web in the dark web for any type of data that he may have been a part of in some way shape or form but we also have the capability to a certain extent to monitor the web for some of this type of behavior. if someone sees something or recognizes some of the signposts along the way we can hear some of our i.t. specialist to look into that so. we are having an i.t. crisis in this country also. we have nowhere nowhere near the number of i.t. professionals. we are down by millions and millions of high-paying jobs that could be acquired by americans that aren't because we don't have people going into i.t. that would help overall with the situation. anita: maureen we don't know the motive yet.
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we know the suspect was radicalized. it could be that this was a hate crime but we don't know exactly why he chose this walmart, this shopping center. we have yet to learn that but what else can investigators figure out that will help lead them to it looking at his social media profile? >> also the fact that he's in el paso. that's a border town. why do they go to a border town instead of his own town? he went there because that fits the narrative that he's been studying and he's been living by in the short period of time. think is there because he's against immigration and he's radicalized and i can't say it. anita: investigators are certainly looking into every possible reason that would lead to motive. they will be looking at that.
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i want to go back to something else he said earlier. there are still 20 victims. their bodies are still inside and one of the things he said was they leave them there so they can figure out the true check during of the bullets what does that have to do with coming up with a mode of? >> it doesn't have to do with the motive. has to do with putting a team together and putting it together properly in accordance with the law that will stand in a court of law. they have to determine there was only one shooter. that's probably the number one thing they have to do term in and in order to do that trajectory is key. anita: i missed the last part of what you said that quickly rapping up how long do you think this will take investigators to come up with the motive and i have 10 seconds left for you here. >> i really don't know but i think they have a pretty good idea right now. they have got to have a working
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>> we realize what was happening and it was just chaos, chaos. the most horrific thing i've ever seen. anita: this is a "fox news" alert and we are learning a bloody attack in the walmart in texas at least 20 people dead and more than two dozen injured or the young gunman behind bars. the question at this hour is why good evening everyone i'm anita vogel in los angeles.

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