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griff: straight to a fox news alert, overnight nine people are killed in ohio where at least one shooter ambushed downtown dayton on a busy saturday night. >> 830 dispatch, we got shots fired,s multiple people down. we're going to need medics. >> i got everybody coming to you. pete: a local hospital confirms they're treating 16 more people. shots fired outside a popular bar just before 1:30 a.m. eastern time. police say the suspect had a long gun and tried to enter the bar but never made it in. >> got people shot. we think there's one shooter. he is down!
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jedediah: police say the gunman is dead but are investigating if there is a possible shooter. the fbi is on the scene. griff: the shooting in ohio comes hours after another mass shooting in texas, a busy saturday afternoon killing 20 people and injuring dozens more. >> it was the most horrendous thing. i saw the shooter maybe 20 feet from me, started shooting. pete: the 21-year-old suspect whose name deserves not being said is in custody. governor greg abbott vowing to prosecute anyone responsible. >> this is disgusting, intolerable, it is not texan, and we are going to aggressively prosecute it both as capital murder, but also as a hate crime, which is exactly what it appears to be. jedediah: jeff paul joins us live from el paso. we're expecting an update this
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morning? >> reporter: yeah. hours if hours after this mass shooting first started, you can see behind me here in el paso the authorities are still on scene here just outside the walmart. now, this is a massive crime scene as investigators go through each piece of evidence, each shell casing as they work to get a better understanding of what exactly happened and when. we know the first shots were fired shortly after 10:30 a.m., and this was a packed store, some estimating up to 3,000 people, many taking advantage of the tax-free weekend for back to school shopping. witnesses say the suspect, whom we are purposely not showing his face or using his name, basically shot anything that was moving, trying to hit as many people as possible as some have described. >> people were trying to get out there, trying to push people out of the way or to get them to go with them so they weren't stuck
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behind. and when we finally got out the back, that's where they started to calm down and reality started to set in, and people were starting to cry and calling their families and letting them know they were okay, calling the police. >> reporter: police responded in minutes to this shooting and managed to take the suspected shooter and 21-year-old whiteman from allen, texas, into custody without firing a single shot. twenty innocent people died and more than two dozen hurt affecting people from the ages of 2 to as old as 8, 0 82. -- 80,82. the mayor says it is a situation he could have never imagined happening, let alone in his town. >> mayor, how do you get our city ready in. >> i don't know. we have never done this before. i would hope and pray we'd never have to do fit again, but we'll do it. and we're going to survive because that's who we are.
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what we're about. >> reporter: investigators are looking into the possibility of this issue being characterized as a hate crime. they're looking at a manifesto and trying to confirm if it was, in fact, written by the shooter. officials have described racist and anti-immigrant language but have not elaborated on any other mote i. the home of the suspected shooter is in allen, texas, just north of dallas in the dfw metro plex about ten hours from here. police have been searching there as well. pete: wow. what a tough story. the president reacting right away on twitter yesterday, tweeted this in response to shooting in el paso: today's shooting in el paso, texas, was not only tragic, it was an act of cowardice. i know that i stand with everyone in this country to condemn today's hateful act. there are no reasons or excuses
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that will ever justify killing innocent people. melania and i send our thoughts and prayers to the great people of texas. jedediah: i just want to send great appreciation out to law enforcement, the fbi, atf, local law enforcement, such a collaboration on the ground. i think police arrived within six minutes of that, and also the medical centers that were on call. you had the d earnings l l -- dl sol medical center, university medical center, treating these victims, trying to restore their health, trying to save lives. truly cannot thank them enough in the case of this horrific tragedy. they do so much on the ground to help so many people, and our thoughts, hearts and prayers go out to them who are doing the really hard work on the ground. give give they do can, indeed, and americans are waking up saying how did this happen in 24 hours, these shootings, and these officials, first responders do which we are so grateful in these communities,
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really they came together. there is a lot of work to do to investigate why this happened and how they can be prepared for these sorts of things because it is becoming far too common. pete: yeah. no, you're right, and we don't have any details and information about the shooter in dayton. in el paso it sounds like, based on reporting, the individual was moti kill a lot of people, went in during a packed himself up to police. we'll learn more there, not that in any way the motivation justifies a thing at all. because when you do something like this, there's no reason -- there's no way townes it. griff: well, and it was quite fitting to get the alerts, my phone went off in the middle of night and i looked down to see the other shooting. that case is very much under investigation. we do know that police responded and stopped, according to jeff paul's report, stopped this shooter from entering the bar/restaurant that he was trying to work his way into. i want to bring in ted williams,
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former homicide detective, criminal defense attorney. ted, good morning. there's a lot of investigative work to be done now. >> good morning, guys. griff, since you and i covered, like, san bernardino, the pulse nightclub, we have covered these kinds of unfortunate, tragic shootings, and quite scene. and there's a great deal of work to do. as of last night, the bodies of many of the victims, from what i understand, were still on the scene. the authorities are, quite naturally, continuing to process that crime scene. pete: ted, you know, i've heard a couple of times that, ultimately, in el paso no shots were fired, police responded. in that sense, is this an instance -- this is not suicide by attack, this is someone who ran out of ammunition and gave themselves up. what's the protocol in a moment
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like that if you're sponged as police? >> well -- if you're responding as police? >> when you have got an active shooter, the first objective is to take the shooter down. in this scenario and circumstance, they found the shooter, and he was alive and upright. and as a result of that the, he ran out of ammunition, and he gave up. and that's going to help law enforcement considerably when it comes to finding a motive as to what, what took place here. it's going to help law enforcement in their investigation. jedediah: ted, what does the timeline look like on something like that? obviously, the fbi is hard at work, they're considering whether or not this is a hate crime, looking at a ton of evidence right now. what can we expect to see in coming days and weeks in terms of nailing that information down and finding out exactly why this was done, how it was done and other details? >> well, we're looking here at the first responders who are very professional and know what they're doing, and that is
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state, local and federal law enforcement. and so they're going to methodically take their time and process the crime scene. right now what is going on is that they are building a case against the alleged shooter. and as a result of that, and when our viewers hear that bodies are still on the scene, the rationale behind that is because they're trying to show the trajectory of where the bullets came from, they're trying to make sure that it was one individual. they're looking at a great deal of videotape in that area. so there's quite a bit of work. there's a prosecutorial work that's going to be done by the prosecutor and prosecuting that, and on the other side you have the law enforcement work, and they have their work cut out for them. griff: i want to bring you to dayton the, ohio, and i have had the honor to work with you because you know the investigative -- in this case the shooter was taken down. he is deceased in dayton, ohio.
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it happened in the middle of the night, so it's very fresh, but what are they looking at? what are the investigators wanting? what can help them at this point? >> well, first of all, what they're trying to do is trying to determine, griff, as to whether there was just one shooter or was someone else actually involved. there are allegations that maybe, perhaps, a second person was involved. what we know from the dayton shooting is that the person was, had allegedly a bulletproof vest on, and he had earmuffs on. what is significant about that is that it is alleged that the shooter in texas also had earmuffs on as he went into that walmart. and so they're trying to also determine if there's any kind of a concerted effort between the shooting in dayton and the shooting in el paso. i've always -- and, griff, you and i have talked about it, copycats. i'm always deeply concerned
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about copycats. griff: there's a tremendous fear that these sorts of things happen. just to be clear, we have no indication, there's no lead that we have been 2007 that would -- given that would suggest these were connected, right? >> absolutely. and they're looking at these individually. and what they're doing specifically with the dayton shooting right now is they are backtracking, and they're looking at the person's identity and social media site, his residence. so there's a great deal of work to be done in both of these cases. pete: ted williams, thank you very much for your time. we may get back to you later on in the program. appreciate your insight this morning. thank you. and speaking of later on in the program, we're going to have the mayor of el paso live on this show at 8:30. jedediah: also texas lieutenant governor dan pallet rick live -- patrick at nine eastern time. some headlines. an urgent warning from yosemite park officials after a tourist died is and two others injured.
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a 21-year-old from romania died wednesday after he slipped on wet rocks and fell 20 feet. another hiker reportedly slipped at a viewing platform monday and a third off a boulder thursday. in a message of caution, the park service shared these prior rescue photos encouraging tourists not to put their or rescuers' safety at risk. extreme weather now, downpours threatening the is southeast this morning with more than 2 inches per hour expected in some spots. more than 4 inches of rain and flash flooding is possible for southern florida. days of rain swamping orange county, trapping at least nine drivers in their cars. pete: and take a look at the newest nfl hall of famer ors. you can see seven of the eight that were inducted yesterday in canton, ohio. some members, like ty law, emotionally thanked those who helped them succeed.
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>> i would not be here without my grandparents. i hope that you guys know how i feel. i love you. pete: powerful words. incredible interceptions in his career. the ceremony paid special tribute to pat bolan who passed away in june. bolan's family gathered on staging to hug around his bronze statue, and those are your headlines. about as tough as it gets. griff: 2020 democrats going after president obama during this week's past debates. >> vice president, it looks like one of us has learned the lessons of the past and one of us hasn't. >> both you and president obama more than anybody in this campaign. jedediah: is that the best strategy? we'll ask someone who worked under obama during his presidency coming up next. [music playing] (vo) this is jerry.
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>> vice president biden, i didn't hear your response when the issue came up with all those deportations. you were vice president of the united states. i didn't hear when you tried to stop them or not using your power, your influence in the white house. >> mr. vice president, it looks like one of us has learned the lessons of the past, and one of us hasn't. >> you invoke president obama more than anybody in this campaign. you can't do it when it's convenient and dodge it when it's not. griff: joe biden taking hard hits this week as fellow 2020 democrats unveil a new offensive strategy, attack obama's legacy. is this the right strategy? joining us now, former deputy assistant secretary of state joel rubin, good morning to you. >> good morning. griff: this might be the worst debate strategy, was one headline i read yesterday. what do you make of these attacks on vice president biden? the. >> well, i dare any of those candidates to say any of those criticisms to barack obama's face, i doubt they would, and that's because they don't believe it. quite frankly, they're just
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trying to separate vice president biden from barack obama because obama's very popular, and the only way to get at bidenen's numbers is to take him apart from obama, so that's really what's at play here. griff: let's show you what biden said. he said, i was surprised at all of the attacks on obama's record at the dem debate. we passed obamacare, led the world on combating climate change and saved our economy from the brink of disaster. he was a great president, we don't say that enough. joel, president trump, in replacing president trump, is assuming the democrats' main goal. why are they going after this record of the obama/biden administration? >> yeah. democrats are now running the risk of blowing it, quite frankly, if they continue to chop away at the best hand that we have in this upcoming election which is the obama legacy. a lot of what these candidates are calling for is what barack obama tried to execute and did a very good job at from a democratic perspective. but they see joe biden as
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leading, and with numbers that are not moving down very quickly, if at all. and they think that by saying he's not really barack obama, even though he spent eight years as his right hand, that will help take him down a notch, but it really takes us all down a notch, that's the problem. griff: are they going too far left? bill de blasio was talking to workers out in vegas. here's what he said, listen. >> do we need to nominate a moderate to win in 2020? no! it is a trap, because when you listen to moderates, i don't disrespect them, i want to work with them, but i don't find them inspiring. i don't find them uplifting. i don't find them visionary. i don't find them to be the people that are going to move all those democrats who stayed home or don't feel like things are going to change. griff: are they going too far left, joel? >> well, to win an election, you clearly have to have the base,
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but you also have to have independents and each disaffected republicans in 2020, and there may be a bunch to get. de blasio is polling at maybe half a percent, and frankly, there is a lot of inspiring advocacy out there on all of the debate stage panelists, amongst the moderates. de blasio is making an argument that may appeal to a very extreme group, but he's trying to get, he's trying to get air time because, frankly, he's doing very poorly. griff: we will find out, i guess, where it all goes. the next debate coming in september. much to watch. thank you, joel. griff: all right. a san francisco state university professor in hot water after trying to, quote, stop israel's lobbying influence on campus. our next guest says jewish students feel unsafe, and it's time for that professor to go. stay tuned. amily and it really shows.
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griff: quick headlines. alexandria ocasio-cortez's former chief of staff is reportedly being investigated for illegal campaign acts. he resigned on friday. "the new york post" reports that he is accused of funneling political donations into private companies he controlled. and this, michael avenatti is reconsidering a 2020 run. stormy daniels' former lawyer is reportedly 50-50 and will make a final decision in the next few months. he ruled out a run back in september after he was accused of domestic violence, and he has since been indicted on fraud charges. he has denied the accusations. pete: that's a real headline? [laughter] wow, no shame. all right. a san francisco state university professor previously named in a lawsuit over allegations of
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anti-semitism on campus is now suing the school. jedediah: joining us is executive director of the law project. rick, welcome to show. >> thank you for having me. jedediah: so, brooke, break this down for me. why is she actually the one? she posted this very controversial image to not only her own private account, but also the school's official facebook account that many have labeled anti-semitic, and somehow now she's the one suing the school? >> exactly. she was a named defendant in one of the lawsuits that the law fair project brought on behalf of the jewish students and community members suing san francisco state university for title vi violations, creating a hostile environment against jewish students, also first amendment violations. and, of course, she was at the center of in this. this is a very radical professor at san francisco state university who has ties to
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hamas-dominated university, who led a trip where she invited students to meet with members of a designated terrorist group, the palestinian front liberation of palestine. she routinely engages in harassment and discrimination against jewish students, and she recently unlawfully posted on the facebook page a very racist line saying zionism equals racism, attacking the ethic and cultural identity of jewish students. and she has now turned the around in a typical frivolous lawsuit meant to intimidate the school and sued the school because they are trying to contain her attack on jewish students. pete: we've reached out to school and the professor's attorney for a statement, no response yet. we'll see if we get one. your point is so jewish students at the university feel targeted by a professor specifically because of their religion and their background, and now when they win a favorable settlement, not only does the professor not
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get fired, she continues with her anti-semitic behavior and sues the school itself. what does it say about the status of higher education and the view of israel in these places? >> well, exactly. i mean, you hit the nail on the head. instead the of being happy that the school reached a settlement that perfectly and legally insured that the school lived up to its civil rights obligations, that does not allow any type of targeting or discrimination against a minority community, the school andlace, she turns continues to post discriminatory and offensive messaging. what this says is there are professors at schools across the country who are degrading the educational system, who are spreading radicalization, antiamericannism and, of course, anti-semitism. and, by the way, a lot of these schools have partnerships and are funded with foreign
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governments such as qatar where the largest state sponsors of terrorism, for example, have a relationship with duke university, where they're funding a teacher training program -- pete: yep. >> -- for teachers from k-12, they're funding northwestern university campuses, georgetown university campuses abroad all in an effort to radicalize american college university students. pete: at the very least, normalize radical ideas within american culture, which is what they try to do. >> and indoctrinate our students, it is very clear. jedediah: you know, brooke, it sounds a little too common for professors who have backgrounds like this, who have exhibited the behavior like this to be protected by these institutions. what's your prediction for how this will go down in this particular case, and what kind of recourse do these students have who feel threatened by the fact that a teacher like this is protected by the university to an extent? >> well, students have civil rights. you know, my organization, the
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law fair project, we provide pro bono legal services to dozens and and dozens of students. we receive phone calls three to four times a week from jewish students who are targeted on american college campuses. they have rights. the most important thing is to know your rights, know how to recognize a free speech violation, know how to recognize a title vi violation. and what i think is going to happen at san francisco state university is i hope they will live up to obligations that they are legally obligated to live up to under the settlement that we reached with them. and the law fair project will do everything that it can to insure that the terms of the settlement are enforced and professors like her are no longer allowed to engage in unlawful discrimination against jewish student on that campus. pete: brooke, thank you very much for your time and the work you do at the law fair project. we appreciate it. all right, well, a fox news alert, two deadly shootings in
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griff: we're back with a fox news alert. two deadly shootings in less than 24 hours. overnight nine people are killed in ohio after a shooter ambushed downtown dayton on a busy saturday night.
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>> 830 dispatch, we got shots fired, multiple people down. we're going to need medics. >> i got everybody coming to ya. pete: a local hospital confirms they're treating at least 16 more people. the mayor just tweeting this message and says in part: i'm heart broken. thank you to our first responders for all that you've done. we know shots were fired outside a popular bar right around one a.m. eastern time. police say the suspect had a long gun and wore body armor. they think he wanted to make it into a local bar, but police shot him when he tried to enter. >> got people shot in the back. we think there's one shooter. he is down! jedediah: the fbi is on the scene, so far no word on a motive. griff: the shooting comes hours after another deadly shooting at a walmart in el paso, texas. a gunman opened fire on busy saturday afternoon killing 20 people and injuring dozens more.
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>> it was the most horrendous thing. i saw the shooter maybe 20 feet from me, and he started shooting. pete: a 21-year-old suspect is in custody. his name does not deserve to be said. governor greg abbott vowing to prosecute anyone responsible to the max. >> this is disgusting, intolerable, and it's not texan, and we are going to aggressively prosecute both as capital murder, but also as a hate crime which is exactly what it appears to be. jedediah: jeff paul joins us live from el paso with the latest. jeff? >> reporter: yeah, what was the scene of chaos, gunfire and all-out panic has now shifted into a major and massive crime scene. you can see behind me this is just the entrance to walmart where the shooting happened and you can see several law enforcement officials out here. deeper inside, several others, state and federal authorities, working through the evidence
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trying to piece together what some have described and trying to make sense of what some have described as the senseless. investigators say the first calls of shots fired came in just after 10:30 a.m. local time, and with it being the tax-free weekend and many doing back to school shopping, this store was packed, upwards of 3,000 people in and out of the walmart at the time of this shooting. witnesses say the suspect, who we again are not naming or showing his face, basically shot anything that was moving, trying to hit as many people as possible as some have described. some stuck behind as the shots were going off like glenn oakley who tried to get as many people as he could to safety. >> i was putting the babies before myself because i just thought if i had a child and if i wasn't around my child, how i would want another man to react if they saw my child running around without me around.
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>> reporter: police responded in minutes and managed to take the suspected shooter, a 21-year-old white man from allen, texas, into custody without firing a single shot. twenty innocent people died and more than two dozen were hurt in the shooting. the victims' ages range from 2 years old to people who were in their 80s. here's texas governor greg abbott yesterday speaking about what happened in his state. >> it's the toughest conversation anybody can even imagine having, visiting with family members who are faced with the uncertainty of whether or not they had lost a loved one. all we can do is try to instill hope, comfort and support. >> reporter: investigators are looking into the possibility of the shooting being characterized as a hate crime. right now they are the looking into a manifesto, trying to confirm if it was, in fact, written by the shooter. in it officials have described racist and anti-immigrant
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language, but police have not further elaborated on any other motive. we should also mention that the home where the shooter lived in allen, texas, which is about ten hours from here just north of dallas, texas, is being searched as well. back to you. jedediah: thank you, jeff. dr. darren porcher, foreman nypd officer and u.s. army veteran. you and i were just talking about fear. you lived in texas, you were stationed there. you know this area. we want to get to dayton, but first, tell us about that area where this has happened. >> it's interesting, i was on active duty from '86-'90, and i was stationed in texas. i've actually been to this complex where the shooting occurred. you look at the concentration of people on a saturday around 11:00, it's going to be very concentrated. this was a target-rich environment for the shooter. so when we go back to these active shooter protocols, things of that nature, the shooter
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specifically picked this location because he saw when they came from the suburbs of that's to this particular location, and he clearly knew and understood that this was a place that he would gain the greatest level of carnage. jedediah: local law enforcement arrived within six minutes. that's outstanding work. one of the challenges, it seems to me, is that coordination between local, state and federal law enforcement. how does that go about in the moments that follow a horrific tragedy like this? how does that all come to be this. >> well, the partnership between city, state and federal law enforcement agencies has been something that's been ongoing. and this is something that really started after 9/11, the seismic shift in domestic terrorism begged the question of how effective is that connection between localized law enforcement and federal. and this is now coming to fruition as we look at incidents like this. pete: darren, i'm going to bring up a summit that probably our viewers -- subject that probably our viewers are thinking, this is texas, like in you think of the gun laws that would allow
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people to carry, yet no shots were fired by anyone inside, nor by police. does that tell you anything about the situation? twenty dead, twenty-six injured, it's a high rate. >> texas is the home of pickup trucks and gun racks. i mean, i was -- everyone carries a gun in texas, and it really surprised me there were no citizens that were able to step in and interdict the shooter. but this is one of these things where the average citizen is not prepared for armed confrontation in a public place. so i can't blame the people that were there. it's just a matter of law enforcement getting in and making that effective response, determining the shooting. fortunately, we took this person into custody. but one of the things that i look to, and this hasn't really come up, is with these active shooter protocols, we want to take a teachable moment from the d. of corrections. whenever you have a riot in a correctional facility, one of the first things they do is cordon off that area, and the violence is localized in one particular area as opposed to it
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just spreading out throughout the complex. all of these companies, schools practice these active shooter protocols, and i think that would be something that we need to inject into these protocols moving forward. jedediah: you mentioned that the shooter was taken into custody. can you just tell us about in the coming days and weeks what will be going on behind closed doors in terms of the fbi investigating this as a hate crime and in terms of confronting that shooter with some serious questions to try to figure out not only the motivation, but what, were there any other agendas and all the details surrounding this important what way case? >> -- this important case? >> sure. normally the el paso police department, they would be the lead investigative entity. the fbi would act as a support mechanism. and, two, this does, in fact, shift over to a hate crime. i've investigated -- i was a detective in the nypd, a lieutenant. a quadruple homicide took massive resources. so when we talk about 20 people
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that were killed, we have 20 people that were killed coupled with 26 victims, this is a massive crime scene. and it's going to take a long time to get this done. it's an arduous process. we go back to what's going to happen moving forward, fortunately we took the shooter into custody. so what he presents is a treasure chest of information moving forward not just for the conviction, but teachable moments for law enforcement in the next mass shooting because i can guarantee they're going to happen. griff: let me take you to dayton, ohio. very fluid situation. nine dead, 16 wounded, happened around one a.m. what can you tell us about 2 authorities, the police responded and took that shooter down. >> at this point we're speaking from a position of conjecture. it's still being hashed out. from what i see, there was a bar. i don't know if the shooter had an axe to grind in connection with the establishment, but the truth of the matter is -- i
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should say unfortunately the shooter was taken out, he was neutralized, and we don't have the ability to access whatever intelligence that would lead this individual to coming to this location. we don't have a manifesto as we do in texas. texas, we had some level of ideology as to why the shooter was in play. here we don't have that, so there are more questions than answers at this stage of the game. pete: thank you very much. we'll have a live report from dayton, ohio, shortly. >> thank you for your service, pete. jedediah: it's incredible video, a deputy picking up and folding an american flag torn down in a storm. now the business owner is sharing the video and his gratitude, coming up next. that's a win. but it's not the only reason i switched. geico's a company i can trust, with over 75 years of great savings and service.
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griff: we're back with a fox news alert. overnight nine people are killed in dayton, ohio, on a busy saturday night. jedediah: emergency officials
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confirm the shooter was armed with a long gun and equipped with body armor. pete: alexis, good morning. >> reporter: yeah, good morning. well, still even hours later a really heavy police presence out here. if you take a look behind us, we're told it happened right down there where you see the flashing lights behind this caution tape right here. we're told it mostly happened right outside and near a bar called ned peppers. this all happened at one a.m. this morning. right now we're also learning that, we first it heard it was e people who were shot and killed, we're now hearing ten. the gunman also shot and killed by several police officers out here. at this point 16 people have been hospitalized. we're still working to get their conditions, see how they're doing this morning. something else, a family assistance center has opened up for families, witnesses, victims to be able to go there, reunite
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with resources. that is happening now at the dayton convention center. again, happening at one a.m. this morning. police tell us early on that they believe once they were the able to find that shooter, the suspect, there was no immediate threat here in the area but, of course, fbi, police still workg with this, if there are any other suspects also a part of this mass shooting out here in dayton. we did see on their facebook page for ned peppers that all of the staff is safe this morning, just their hearts go out to everyone, all of the victims, families, witnesses, everyone who was involved. now, the mayor is getting ready to speak here in the next 15 minutes, so, of course, we're going to go over there right now to keep you updated and to see what else is happening here in dayton after this tragedy and this mass shooting. back to you. griff: alexis, thank you. pete: well, in another story the, incredible moment captured
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♪ ♪ >> i noticed the flag on the ground, the american flag on the ground, so i stopped. i'd like to think that anybody who has been afforded the opportunity to live in america would have done the exact same thing. pete: a florida restaurant owner sharing a video of a deputy going out of his way to protect and fold an american flag. griff: joining us now with his story, the owner of the restaurant, alexei kuzman, good
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morning. i think everyone wants to know what prompted you to take this action? >> it was actually really, really awesome. i didn't expect that, you know, for somebody to pick up a piece of fabric and for somebody that's a a real, you know, a national treasure. and seeing somebody, you know, taking time and just, you know, folding it, bringing it inside and caring about it, that was really awesome. jedediah: you had posted some information about this to community page. what was the reaction that people had to what had transpired in terms of the deputy doing this great act of service? >> everybody just, you know, to that deputy, thank you for your service, and it had a bunch of likes, a bunch of views and a bunch of shares. it has gone pretty viral, and people definitely like that, to see that, you know, than seeing out on the ground and somebody
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stepping on it and disrespecting it. for sure, people do respect that. pete: alexei, you're a business owner, but you're originally from the ukraine. you live in the u.s. with a green card, and you sort of -- how does the treatment of the flag here in america contrast with some of the things you've seen elsewhere? >> it's completely different. that is why it made me, you know, think about what people do respect here. because it's definitely different in ukraine. i really hope that it change for the last six and a half years that i was here. but i don't think it's gonna change that much. it's really hear that the people -- here that people do respect their national treasures. griff: what's been the reaction so far to your post, and have you talked to deputy? >> i did not. i did find her on facebook, so i really think that i will one day. but i've seen her, you know, as
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a deputy, so i don't know. i didn't see her yet, but i do really appreciate the act she did, and she definitely gained a lot of respect from me personally and a lot of other people. pete: olexiy, the flag's a symbol. what does it mean to you when you see someone holding it with such reverence? what does the flag ultimately mean to you? >> just mean be proud of it. i don't know. in four more years, i'll be able to file for citizenship, and i will be glad to do that and get an american passport, because it is a real document in this world, american passport, and i don't know, just feeling proud for maybe one day to join this country.
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i'm proud to raise my kids here. jedediah: wow. really appreciate you being here and bringing this story to everyone's attention, a beautiful act of service by the deputy and great of you to post it and to send this message out to public. i think it really makes people feel really good inside. i know it sure does that for us, so thank you so much. pete: thank you, sir. speaking of great sundays, we've got a great one ahead. coming up, mark morgan, lawrence jones, maria bartiromo all here live on this sunday edition. don't go anywhere. you go on about how... ...it's so confusing it hurts my brain. ya i hear ya... or say you can't believe... ...how much of a hassle it is! and tell anyone who'll listen... (garbled)....it's so expensive! she said it's so expensive. tell me about it. yes.. well i'm telling the people at home. that's why esurance is making the whole experience surprisingly painless. so, you never have to talk about it, unless you're their spokesperson.
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fired, we got multiple people down. we're going to need multiple medics. >> i got everybody coming to ya. jedediah: a local hospital confirms they're treating at least 16 more people. at least one of those patients is in critical condition and at least two have been released. the mayor of dayton tweeting this message reading in part: i'm heart broken. thank you to our first responders for all you've done. griff: shots fired outside a popular bar around one a.m. police think the suspect wanted to make it inside, but police shot him when he tried to enter. >> people shot in the back at ned peppers. we think there's one shooter. he is down! pete: the fbi is now on the scene. so far no word on a motive. jedediah: the shooting this ohio comes hours after another deadly shooting at a walmart in el paso, texas. a gunman killed 20 people and
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injured dozens more. >> it was the most horrendous thing i ever saw. i saw the shooter maybe 20 feet from me, started shooting. griff: a 21-year-old suspect is in custody. governor greg abbott i vowing to prosecute anyone responsible to max. >> this is disgusting, intolerable. it is not texan, and we are going to aggressively prosecute both as capital murder but also as a hate crime, which is exactly what it appears to be. pete: our own jeff paul joins us live from el paso with the latest. jeff. >> reporter: yeah. you guys talk about those two shootings, dayton and here in el paso, is and just a few days ago there was the one in gilroy at the gilroy garlic festival. back here on scene, hours and hours after this mass shooting, you can see behind me there's still a lot of police officers here, deputies, state troopers, and this is just the entrance to the walmart to where the
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shooting happened. several more authorities and members of the law enforcement community in and around the scene trying to piece together and get a better understanding of exactly what happened is and when. now, we know that the first shots were fired off shortly after 10:30 a.m. local time, and this was a very packed store, some estimating up to 3,000 people. many taking advantage of the tax-free weekend for back to school shopping. witnesses who were inside and around the store say the suspect, who we are purposely not naming or showing his face, basically shot anything that was moving, trying to hit as many people as possible. >> people were just trying to get out of this, trying to go to closest doors that they could, trying to push people out of the way or trying to get them to go with them so that they weren't stuck behind. and when we finally got out the back, that's where they started to finally calm down and people were starting to cry and calling their families and letting them
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know they were okay, calling the police. >> reporter: police responded within minutes and managed to take the suspected shooter, a 2-year-old white man from allen, texas, into custody without firing a single shot. twenty innocent people died in this shooting and more than two dozen others were hurt, ages ranging from just 2 years old to some people who were in their 80s. among the dead also, three mexican nationals. the mayor here in el paso says it is a situation that he could never have ever imagined happening, leapt alone in his town -- let alone in his town. >> it is the toughest conversation anybody can even imagine having, visiting with family members who were clutched with uncertainty about whether or not they lost a loved one. all we could do was to try to instill hope, comfort and support. >> reporter: and that, of course, was texas governor greg abbott, not the mayor of el
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paso. but investigators are also looking at the possibility of the shooting being characterized as a hate crime. right now they're looking at a manifesto and trying to figure out if it was, in fact, written by the alleged shooter. in it officials have described racist and anti-immigrant language, but police have not the elaborated any other further details on a specific motive. we should also mention that the home where the suspected shooter lived in allen, texas, which is about ten hours from the here is also being searched. back to you. pete: jeff, thank you. griff: jeff, thanks. jedediah: horrific numbers. i mean, if you look at these numbers of just the fatalities and the wounded in dayton and el paso, our hearts go out so much to families, the victims, to everyone directly affected by this. it's unbelievable when you rook at it. and grateful to law enforcement and the people at the medical facilities on the ground who are dealing with this on a moment's notice and doing the best they
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can to help the wounded. we're thinking of you, we're thinking of the mayor, the governor with and all of america is with you today. griff: there were reports out of el paso that the blood banks were receiving an overwhelming response. people in the community realizing the gravity of the situation, doing anything that they could. it's a powerful testament when communities like this react. by the way, we have very little on dayton. as much details as we do on el paso. we're keeping you updated. if there's any news coming out of there, we will update you on that story as well. pete: unfortunately, the deceased ratio to injured is quite high in both of these, which means the killers were intent on ending lives in both that walmart and outside in dayton. and questions will be asked, security protocols at wal-mart, security protocols if dayton. this was texas, were people armed inside the store. a lot of things we don't know.
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no need to speculate at this moment, but either way, pretty hard to prepare for someone you don't know walking in heavily armed and just looking to kill. griff: it is interesting as you raised though, pete, and that is in texas -- and darren porcher said texas is pickups and gun racks -- that no one was armed themselves. he was largely shooting in walmart, it appears from reports, but also in the cielo vista area. so, you know, you would think perhaps someone would have been armed -- pete: maybe they were and carrying. we don't know. but ultimately, we'll try to get to details and bring them to you. the president tweeting in response to this, he tweeted. this today's shooting in el paso texas was not only tragic, it was an a act of cowardice. completely right. i know i stand with everyone in this country to condemn today's hateful a act. there are no reasons or excuses that will ever justify killing innocent people. melania and i send our heartfelt thoughts and prayers to the people of texas.
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jedediah: we're going to bring in david webb now, fox news contributor. how you doing today? >> it's a rough morning, guys, i gotta tell you, when you look at what's going on between el paso, dayton. so, you know, let's work through this together. pete: absolutely. so let's work through that, david. it's starting in el paso, you look at the situation there, the high casualty rate, your first takeaways as we start to unpack what may have happened there. >> well, i think you just said it, pete, intent, and you all said it. this was an intent to go into a crowded area, into a walmart where you've got aisles, people clusteredded at a time of day when people are typically there. they do their shopping in the morning. so there was thought put into this. and for whatever reason, you know, i want people around america to, one, focus on the community and the families and then look further to prosecuting this and following through. we've got to do a lot about the
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people rather than go into the instant political argument around is it the gun. it's not the gun, it's the shooter, it's the hate and it's the actions that go with this. griff: david, obviously, it's going to be very helpful to investigators in el paso to have the shooter alive. in dayton, ohio, police reacted quickly, stopped this shooter, neutralized him, killed him before he got into that bar. where do they begin their investigation and what do you make of that a situation? >> well, in both cases they're going to have to gather as much as possible. first, it's how did the shooter get there in ohio, the vehicle. and then, of course, like in el paso, back to home or the residence. and look for others. i mean, one of the things that police are often tasked with is as soon as possible how can they find out if there were others in some ways, whether directly or providing support. and that's one of the first things. they also have to look at personal relationships, find as
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many people in the area, see if there was another reason that triggered this. and, you know, look, it's a tough job. you've got police officers who go out there, they're not just doing this, they're trying to protect the community at large. so resources can come in from a state agency, even from the fbi where necessary and others to help, but the community plays a big role. the community has to speak up not based on fear, but where they see and know things and inform the police as much as possible. jedediah: you know, you talked about the importance of community, and i couldn't agree more. it's amazing, the inspiring communities that are hit in the face of these tragedies that do come together. the medical community, the law enforcement community, both local, state and federal, and just the people of these places that are affected so deeply. they have family members, they have friends, they themselves are directly affected, and they somehow manage to come together and be renewed. what are you thinking of today when you think of the community, particularly in dayton and el
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paso as we look at these horrific numbers coming in? the. >> you know, jed, it's a really human response, and it's something about america, but the human community. we come together in tragedies of all types, and we support each other. we go, and it's not just donating blood, it's being there the day after and the day after, because this takes time. sometimes a lifetime. so when people come together, it supports each other, but it also sends a message to those out there that for whatever reason are going to commit these acts, that you won't tear down the community. it may not affect them directly, but maybe says to someone that there are more of us, there are more good people than the outliers -- and these are outliers. as tragic as they are and the numbers that are killed, these are outliers in our society. and we should remember that, and we should reinforce that. pete: david webb, thank you very much for your insight this morning. we appreciate it. >> thanks.
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pete: you should also know we're going to have the el paso mayor coming up. jedediah: some headlines for you now. two united airlines pilots behind bars for allegedly being under the influence before a flight to u.s. the men were arrested at scotland's glasgow airport after failing a breath neiser test. the -- breathalyzer test. the pilots are expected in court tuesday. and turning to some extreme weather. tropical downpours threatening the southeast this morning with more than 2 inches per hour expected in some spots. more than 4 inches of rain and flash flooding is possible for southern florida. days of rain swamping orange county, trapping at least nine drivers in their cars. those are your headlines. griff: all right. we're waiting on an update from the mayor of dayton, ohio, following the deadly shooting overnight. pete: meanwhile, presidential hopeful -- and it's all hope at this point -- bill de blasio
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can i see it? no. philadelphia dips. so good, you'll take all the credit. griff: want to take you to dayton, ohio. the mayor giving an update. >> but i know as a community we will continue to move through it. with that, i'll open it up to questions. >> do you believe this was premeditated, the fact this he wore body armor? he was denied entry, is and that's when -- [inaudible] the body armor -- >> well, certainly i'm not in the shooter's head, but he was wearing body armor, had magazines and extra magazines. >> mayor, is there more than one shooter? we're hearing --
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[inaudible] >> i can address that. initially from our initial investigation, it appears as though there's only one shooter. we are interviewing dozens of people. obviously, it's very early in the investigative stage. so we are, we're at the early stages, so we can't confirm that this is the only person involved, but for right now that is our belief. >> what do we know about the suspect? or about the shooter? >> yeah. we can provide more information on identity and additional information at a later time, but it's too early in the investigation to get some of those details. >> [inaudible] >> i can tell you within seconds, less than a minute the officers who were already patrolling that area fired on
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the shooter to stop, to stop his aggressive behavior, stop the shooting. >> [inaudible] inside that club or helping with the curt of that club? -- the security of the club. >> it's in a district neighborhood, district association. certainly, we had police officers there. it was saturday night. [inaudible conversations] >> how many officers -- [inaudible] >> i can't give you exact numbers on every single saturday night. i can tell you we had officers on patrol in the district over this past evening, and they were there in the immediate vicinity. >> [inaudible] when you hear mass shooting -- [inaudible] what dose through your mind? >> look, as a mayor, this is a day that we all dread happening and, certainly, what's very sad is i've gotten messages from cities across the country and that so many of us have gone through it. today is the 250th mass shooting
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in america. it's sad that it's in the city of dayton. >> mayor -- [inaudible] astronaut or federal level yet? >> yes. i've been in touch with governor dewine this morning. >> was the shooter going bar to bar? i'm told that he was outside or they were outside -- >> we'll have, we'll have more details on the shooting as this moves forward, and we will continue to stay in touch with you during the day as we get more information. this was in the oregon district area. >> outside ned peppers. >> it was in the oregon district area, in the outside area. >> is there any trace -- [inaudible] hate crime? >> again, we don't know the thoughts of the shooter at this time. we know that he was wearing body armor and had high capacity magazines and extra -- >> [inaudible] >> he just offered his condolences to the city of dayton, was incredibly impressed
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with the work of the dayton police department to have this is situation under control in less than a minute. and then offered any support that he could give. >> mayor whaley, describe the past six months for you, for the city. it's been tough and now this. >> yes. it's been a tough is sex months for our community -- tough six months for our community, but you work through that. and right now our focus is on the families and friends, frankly, that went to downtown on a saturday night and thought that they'd go home safe, and that didn't happen. >> [inaudible] >> no, we haven't had -- they are in the process right now. >> [inaudible] convention center have been receiving calls on the hotline about the shooting itself -- [inaudible] >> we don't have numbers for that. you know, this is the first press conference that we'll have throughout the day, we will have
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information like that as the day comes forward. we're really asking you all to share those two numbers. that's really important right now and to get the message out for people that have lost loved ones and for people that may have information. >> again, can you -- [inaudible] >> the gun the shooter had was a .223 caliber high capacity magazine. he had additional magazines, and he was wearing body armor. >> [inaudible] >> .223 caliber high capacity magazine. >> was it a rifle? >> yes. >> very large gun, in technical terms. >> have you been able -- [inaudible] where he got the weapon and -- >> not yet. >> [inaudible] >> we don't have any of that information yet. >> what are you trying to provide to people, family, friends, what are you trying to provide to them? >> look, i think the, you know, imagine yourself in their
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position, their family member was out on a saturday night or somebody regularly enjoying their friends on saturday night. we want to make sure that they get the best information possible. you all are key in that conversation, but sometimes the information that comes out is not correct. so we want to make sure that they have that. and then we want to make sure that they get the services that they need. i mean, this is going to be a very difficult time for at least ten families in our community x their lives have completely changed. but in addition to the 26 that are injured, it could be many more lives that are changed. >> what's the extent of the injuries, life threatening? >> yes. >> do you have any idea how many -- >> no, i don't have numbers. >> can you talk more about the body armor? vest, held gear, what is -- >> we'll be able to get to more detail on that at a later time.
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>> well, we'll continue, we're asking you to continue to push information out around the tip line and also information to get to family and friends, and we'll be continuing to do that work. we'll be working in concert with the can coroner and other folks -- the coroner and other folks that are doing this effort. and then we want to take care of our first responders. our first responders this year have been through a lot. and so we'll be doing that work. and then we'll work to make sure that you are, have have the most up to date information and correct information throughout the day. so you can count on us to come back and continue to keep you in information. my ask for you all is to don't go on a story that is not true that cannot be confirmed and return for that open access over the day. >> what hospitals are -- >> they're in multiple hospitals across the city. >> and as you saw the mass shooting in el paso play out yesterday, did you ever imagine
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or prepare for -- [inaudible] so quickly? how did you guys prepare for this? >> you talking about the el paso responders responding so quickly? our responders? look, time and again i, as mayor, have been amazed by dayton's first responders. i think they are a special, amazing group of first responders. if dayton police had not gotten to shooter in under a minute -- and think of that, 26 injured, 9 dead, hundreds of people in the oregon district could be deaded today. and that work and that bravery by our first responders is something that moves me to get up every morning to continue to do this work. >> mayor -- [inaudible] i've seen it on your face. when you're speaking to other leaders around the city, around the state and the country, how
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do you help the situation here? how do you -- what do you say to -- [inaudible] >> oh, i don't think anything i can say can help the people that have lost loved ones. but i think for us we have to just be there. and i think that's what we'll do. we'll continue to stand in the gap in that and try to give them the space and grace that they need during this time. >> [inaudible] in the near future in terms of protocol and how -- [inaudible] >> look, i think, i think the misand our first responders have done an amazing job. clearly, the question has to be raised why does dayton have to be the 250th mass shooting in america. 250. i mean, that's really the question. >> when you look at that number -- [inaudible] >> this year. we are -- el paso was 249,
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dayton's 250 this year. >> surveillance cameras -- [inaudible] in the oregon district -- [inaudible] >> many business business busine security cameras and video and, obviously, we're checking to see what is available and use that as part of our investigation. so some of that has already been done, some of that is to be done. >> do you have any idea how many people may have been in the district haas -- last night? >> oh, it was thousands. it's a saturday night in the district in the summer, you know? i mean, it was thousands. >> initial reports had to do with the shooter being denied access to the club. is there any truth to that? >> i'm not aware of that information. but like i said, it's still early in the investigation. but i have not heard. that. >> and we know -- >> [inaudible] >> i'm not going to comment --
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>> we can't comment. >> [inaudible] >> i'm not going to get into those specifics just yet. we'll release, i know everyone here that's local knows that we're, we provide very detailed information on critical incidents, and we'll do the same here. it's, obviously, going to take a little bit of time to get some of that detail. >> [inaudible] >> i think i got a text around 2:40. yeah, i think around that time. >> i wanted to clarify something on the sidelines. is that less than a minute from when you first got a call about it or less than a minute after the shooting begansome. >> less than a minute after the shooting fest began. >> they were right there -- >> they were there. >> they were in the immediate vicinity -- >> correct, they were there. >> uniformed officers, do you have officers that -- >> they were uniformed officers
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working in the -- >> the oregon district. >> -- the oregon district. >> i really want, to you all need to think about that a minute. if the officers were not in the oregon district, the officers were there less than a minute from the beginning of the shooting. this, the shooter was able to kill nine people and injure 26 in less than a minute. and if we did not have police in the oregon district and the thousands of people in the oregon district enjoying their saturday evening, what we could have had in this city. so it is a terrible day for dayton, but i am so grateful for dayton police's fast action. okay. we'll be back. remember our deal. no bad information. in return, i'll come see you every few hours, we will. >> [inaudible] >> i think we're going to come back at ten a.m., okay?
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thank you. >> thanks, mayor. griff: so an update from the mayor of dayton, ohio, and the assistant police chief, matt carper, also giving us an indication of a little more of what happened. we found out from that press conference, the mayor calling it a terrible day, that there was one individual that carried this out. he came armed with body armor, a long gun, a 223. he had additional magazines. not a whole lot of new details, but certainly you can see from the mayor and the officials there, they've been hit hard there. this is dayton, ohio, population of 140,000. that oregon district there, certainly are, would have been -- because of the bars and restaurants area -- a pretty populated area for that small community. but the thing that really stood out from that was that the police responded in less than
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one minute -- pete: yep. griff: -- to neutralize that shooter. jedediah: we have a tweet from governor dewine: i commend dayton police. i have ordered that flags in ohio remain at half staff in honor and memory of victims who lost their lives this morning. pete: yeah. what those police do, running to the sounds of the guns. true heroes, and we remember the victims too. more "fox & friends" coming up ncnext. y and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's we're the hayles, and we're usaa members for life. ♪ get your usaa auto insurance quote today.
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pete: we are back with a fox news alert. two deadly shootings in less than 24 hours. overnight nine people killed in ohio after a a shooter ambushed downtown dayton on a busy saturday night. >> 830 dispatch, we got shots fired. we got multiple people down. we're going to need multiple medics. >> i got everybody coming to ya. jedediah: 26 now confirmed hurt after that gunman opened fire outside a popular bar right around one a.m. eastern time. police say the suspect had a long gun and wore body armor. officers shot him within one minute of that first shots fired call. the mayor of dayton commending first responders just moments ago. >> this is a terribly sad day for our city. i am amazed by the quick response of the dayton police that saved literally hundreds of lives. griff: this morning the fbi is on scene. so far no word on a motive.
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jedediah: the shooting in ohio comes hours after another deadly shooting at a walmart in el paso, texas. a gunman opened fire on a busy saturday afternoon killing 20 people and injuring dozens more. >> it was the most horrendous thing i ever saw. i saw the shooter maybe 20 feet from me, started shooting. frif give a 21-year-old suspect is in the custody. governor greg abbott vowing to prosecute anybody responsible to the max. >> this is disgusting, intolerable. it's not texan. and we are going to aggressively prosecute it both as capital murder, but also as a hate crime, which is exactly what it appears to be. pete: from our affiliate in el paso is here with the latest, alyssa. >> reporter: hey, guys. it's really a somber mood here almost 19 hours after tragedy struck this walmart here in east
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el paso. 20 killed, 26 injured. you can see behind me it's a very active scene still, sheriff's deputies, state troopers still investigating, expected to be here for quite a while. we are expecting a press conference update at about 10:00 local time. what we do know yesterday morning about 10:30, a 21-year-old white male shooter entered the walmart killing 20 and injuring 26, leaving behind a very graphic scene. now, he was arrested just about a block and a half away from here shortly after without incident. he was taken into custody alive and is now sitting in jail on a capital murder charge. you know, really the question now is why here, why el paso was attacked. the el paso police chief, greg allen, told us they found a manifesto they believe was written by the shooter filled with racist and hateful language, and it's believed this could have been possibly a hate crime as you heard from governor abbott a moment ago. that's the consideration now, but really the community is just
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in mourning. we want to let you in to mayor, dean marco, reacting just a few hours ago. >> mayor, how do you get our city ready -- [inaudible] >> i don't know. we've never done this before, i would hope and pray we'd never have to do it again. but we'll do it ask and we're going to survive because that's who we are. that's what we're about. >> [inaudible] >> reporter: the community really just, again, shaken here. people have been serving us messages, they're afraid to sleep, some thinking they have heard gunshots in their neighborhood. police told us there are no other incidents of any confirmed shootings or any active threats. again, support pouring in from the community, want to show you the tweet from senator ted cruz, my heart is with everyone in el paso struck by this unspeakable evil, and that really is the only way to describe what happened here. we'll be continuing to bring you the very latest. reporting live in east el paso,
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back to you. pete: alyssa, thank you. appreciate it. yeah, no, as you -- our thoughts and prayers go out to all of those folks as the investigation is ongoing. never any justification for something like this. and as we get more details and information, we'll bring it to you. jedediah: absolutely. pete: well, the trump administering preparing to withdraw thousands of -- administration preparing to withdraw thousands of troops from afghanistan. rfr next guest is a green beret who says this is the wrong deal to take. he's live coming up next. how could it get any better than this? dad, i just caught a goldfish! there's no goldfish in this lake. whoa! it's pure gold. we're gonna be rich... we're gonna be rich! it only gets better when you switch and save with geico.
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♪ applebee's all you can eat is back. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. ♪ ♪ griff: quick headlines. the family of one of the american teen it is accused of killing an italian police officer says there is more to the story. an attorney says people have been jumping to conclusions. >> the public has an incomplete account of the true versions of the events. we look forward to the truth coming out and to our son coming
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home. griff: police say both elder and his friend confessed to being involved in the murder of the undercover officer. court documents allege elder didn't know the man was an officer and thought he was being attacked. and hillary clinton is reminding people to vote for democrats because it's hot in greenland. clinton tweeting this: a massive heat wave has caused the greenland ice sheet to melt at rates not expected until 2070. vote accordingly. a danish scientist says there will be less melting isolater this week once it cools up to. jedediah: part of a proposed peace deal with the taliban. >> with respect to afghanistan, we're talking, but we've also made a lot of progress. we're reducing it. we've been this for 19 years. we're really serving as policemen, and that's not for our soldiers.
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pete: here to weigh in is officer ben collins. ben, thanks for joining us this morning. you know this process intimately. you've been involved in understanding what sort of a peace deal would look like. where are we right now, and are we making the right kind of deal, ben? >> well, thanks, pete. look, ie're not making the right kind of deal. i think we're about to make a very bad deal, and no deal is better than a bad deal, and and nobody knows that better than this president. look, it comes down to understanding exactly who the taliban are. and the taliban for 19 years their entire identity, what they have told their soldiers is they are going to fight until the last american and foreign soldier is gone, then they're going to overthrow the government of afghanistan and take over once again, and everything they do is to that end. so anything that they're going to agree in this deal, they're going to weigh that against what it will do to their movement. so i don't know what's inside the deal, but i can tell you
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there is not going to be a ceasefire, there won't be an agreement to really talk to government of afghanistan. and then the bottom line, pete, all they're doing is waiting time before they overthrow the government o in and resume control. and all they're going to do is declare victory against the united states. and i think that's just, that's a horrible place to be for us. jedediah: ben, i have to ask you what some might deem a naive question, but when i see the words negotiated with the taliban, that makes me uncomfortable and nervous. is there a way to negotiate with them and have it actually be effective and believe anything that they actually say? >> that's actually a great question. look, i think over the last year and a half we've almost treated them like diplomats of a legitimate country, which they're not. this is a terrorist group. to point, i mean, the government of afghanistan should be involved much more than they
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are, but no, your question is on point. there is no way. we've seen them make promises before. you know, at the end of the day even something as simple as saying we denounce al-qaeda, they have been unwilling to do. they're not going to do. and unless that's parking lot of this deal -- part of this deal, i don't think we should believe anything they say. their behavior, unlike ours over the last 18 years, has been completely the same, over 19 years. go ahead, i'm sorry. griff: the dod gave us a statement to "fox & friends" saying this: our strategy in afghanistan, our troops will remain in afghanistan at appropriate levels so long as the presence is required to safeguard u.s. interests. we know these talks are apparently between the taliban and a afghan-born diplomat. do you have any idea that there is some progress made even if this deal that you say isn't a good one? >> well, look, i think the progress that's been made has been tactically, you know, on
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the ground. i mean, the point has always been to maintain enough pressure on the taliban so that they would be willing to come to negotiating table in a legitimate fashion. but so far they have not. now, general miller has increased his operations in afghanistan. our commander there, and has done great damage. i mean, the taliban are, in afghanistan, are hurting. it's always the taliban leadership that's in pakistan that's not getting shot at that always wants the war to continue. finish but -- but the fact is we made it clear that we were desperate for a deal, and the taliban know that, and they are taking everything they possibly can. look, i agree with president trump, we should not be the policemen. we can reduce the troops, he can keep his campaign promise. but at the end of the day, you are going to be giving al-qaeda and the other jihadists a win, so let's not be the world's policeman, but let's still continue to take the fight to the terrorists. pete: yeah. you can do that even with less troops, a point you make --
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>> absolutely. pete: ben collins, thank you very much for your insight. we'll stay in touch. >> thanks, pete. pete: we brought you all live pictures yesterday when i teamed up with navy seals to swim across the hudson river to support our heroes. the event organizer and three of the seals who, well, pulled me across the finish line, to say it generously -- [laughter] they're live coming up next.
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more? he has asked for... what? well he did say please (all boys): thank you, thank you, thank you. ♪ ♪ pete: welcome back. griff: 30 navy seals team thed up to show across the hudson river yesterday to show no veteran gets left behind. jedediah: and our own pete hegseth joined them. pete: and they didn't leave me
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behind. [laughter] three seals who swam with us, matt, ken and cos, gentlemen, thank you for being here. cos, you were my swimming buddy the entire time. he literally pulled me through the water. he saw said to me, grab onto my shorts, and i'll swim. i'm not kidding. jedediah: and he's not that light. pete: and for 30 seconds it was like i was following superman through the water. it truly was leave no man behind. let's play a package of what went on yesterday. watch. ♪ ♪ griff: pete is taking a little swim this morning. jedediah: so excited for this today. tell us what -- pete: half the people say that you're going to do great, half the people say do you even know how to swim? [laughter]
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is this even possible? griff: pete is going to undertake the challenge of swimming -- pete: acrosses the hudson live . -- navy seals. jedediah: there you go, you've got navy seals ready for their swim across the hudson river. >> this whole thing is about honoring our fellow seals and about raising money to help veterans. >> why doing this? we're not leaving anybody behind. pete: don't leave me behind to the. now it's time to jump in the water. jedediah: history is being made. they are starting at liberty state park, swimming right near the statue of liberty, and then they're going to ellis island, then to battery park in lower manhattan. griff: that's a long ways to go just for this first leg. see the guy with the white cap
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on? the that is pete. jedediah: go, pete! ♪ ♪ jedediah: yeah, pete! whoo! pete: much respect to the navy seals, that's all i have to say. holy cow. >> you did such a good job. there was a little bit of a strug the9 by the statue of liberty there. pete: for purposes of time, i got towed a little bit of the way. i think it was mercy. he said grab my shorts and let me swim. >> it's all about teamwork -- >> just a little assist. >> do i have it in me to finish the last two legs? based on what you saw? >> well, my good army friend, there's a reason we're the premier maritime force in the world. >> let's do it! >> how were you feeling after leg two the? pete: a lot better. lost all my confidence in leg one. but with the current and the guys i'm swimming with, this one was doable. you're staring at the statue of
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liberty. >> how do you feel between a scale of america to zero, and i'd say it's america. we've got seals going in right now for the third leg. >> here we two! jedediah: and he's in. [laughter] >> showing off. now he's showing off. ♪ ♪ pete: did it. man, watching these seals is amazing. what an honor. came out of the honor, grabbed the flag, and we're going to be running to ground zero. what these men have given, how much you continue to give. god bless america. [cheers and applause] pete: guys, it was such an honor
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to be such a small part of this. bill, you put this together, ultimately for a great cause. >> a lot of good people came together, pete, including yourself, including fox news, and together we helped a lot of veterans. pete: i hope we did. >> thank you so much. pete: absolutely. guys, what was going through your mind while we were swimming that river? >> that first leg, there was a lot of current involved, so a few guys had some dimities -- [laughter] but after that, the second and third legs were great. we made it. pete: yeah. >> incredibly. pete: indeed. kenny if, your thoughts. >> it was a miraculous event. everybody came together. i don't think we could have asked for better. jedediah: you really helped him out, man, i gotta tell you. [laughter] tell us the truth, what was it like -- how was he in the water? i know he's tough on himself, but i thought he did fantastic. >> yeah. i thought that was the epitome of courage, for an army kauai to jump in the -- guy to jump in
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with 30 navy seals, it was awesome. and it's important to remember that right now overseas we have army and navy guys operating together down range, and it's so great to come back home and be able to do a mission to help others, army and navy working together again. jedediah: i have to say, the energy was so inspiring, just seeing it, all of that patriotism all for such an amazing cause. you guys have such an incredible sense of community that just to see pete join in with that, it translatedded through the screen. you guys are all so inspiring to so many of us. i don't know if you know that, but it's just like -- i'm almost in tears over here just rooting you on. [laughter] thank you so much for doing this. i feel like it awakens the whole country in a way that we need so much right now. griff: well, you know, because of the navy seals versus land-borne army guys, pete was willing to do it, and i actually thought how close was pete to not making it? pete: be honest. [laughter] >> you know, in life and in combat, like, it's a game of seconds and inches.
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there was just like one little moment as pete and i rounded the statue of liberty there where i could feel that the current was shifting -- pete: right. >> and we were fighting the current. i just had to get him around this one little point, and from there he just took it all the way. pete: it took discuss 25 minutes -- [laughter] no, but he could have swam circles around me, and i was going nowhere. you guys have that training in your back pocket. i mean, i didn't want train for this. i -- i didn't train for this, i probably should have. this is something you train for all the time, right? >> absolutely. you prepare, you train hard. sometimes things happen and you compromise ops. pete: g.i. go fund was the reason why we were all there yesterday. can you guys stick around? talk to you in another hour? >> pleasure. pete: well, i couldn't tell you what to do if i wanted -- [laughter] bill, matt -- these are not -- those are not the right words.
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>> we are back with a fox news alert. two deadly shootings in less than 24 hours. overnight nine people killed in ohio after a shooter ambushed downtown dayton. >> 8-3 dispatch. we got shots fired. we got multiple people down. we're going to need medics. >> i got everybody coming to yo. griff: 26 now confirmed injured after that gunman opened fire. police say the suspect had a long gun and wore body armor. officers shot one one minute of that first shots fired call. the mayor of dayton addressing the tragedy inner city this morning. >> our city has been through a lot already this year, and i continue to be amazed by the grit and resiliency of our
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community. certainly this is a day that will be filled with prayer for our citizens, prayer for the families and friends, and prayer for our community. jedediah: this morning f.b.i. is on the scene. so far no word on a motive. pete: and the shooting in ohio comes hours after another deadly shooting, at a walmart in el paso, texas. the gunman opened fire yesterday afternoon killing 20 people and injuring dozens more. >> the most horrendous thing i ever saw over. he was about 20 feet from me, started shooting. griff: a 21-year-old suspect is in custody. governor greg abbott vowing to prosecute anyone as possible to the max. >> this is disgusting, intolerable, it is not texan, and we are going to aggressively prosecute it both as capital murder but also as a hate crime, which is exactly what it appears to be.
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jedediah: jeff paul joins us live from el paso with the latest. jeff? >> yes. as the sun starts to come out here in el paso, at least creep out from the mountains, you're starting to see a lot more law enforcement show up here on scene, and this is just the entrance to the walmart where that shooting happened. we're seeing state troopers coming in and out. we're seeing sheriffs' deputies, police officers, which is indicative of what's going on inside that scene. lots of things to go through, lots of evidence, things to piece together as this shooting investigation continues 37 and we know this shooting, the first calls, at least, came in shortly after 10:30 a.m. local time. some of the witnesses who were on scene say that it was a very chaotic scene. there was a lot of people here, too, upwards of 3,000 people trying to take advantage of the tax-free weekend and doing some back-to-school shopping. witnesses also say that once the
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shooting did start and they could say the suspect it appeared that he was just shooting at anybody that was moving, trying to kill as many people as he could. >> i was putting the baby before myself because i just thought about if i had a child and if i wasn't around my child, how i would want another man to react, basically my child running around, you know, without me around. >> that was u.s. army specialist glenn oakley who stayed behind to try to get as many people as he could to safety. now, police responded to the shooting within minutes and managed to take the suspected shooter, a 21-year-old white man from allen, texas, into custody without using any weapons or firing a single shot. 20 people died in this shooting and more than two dozen were hurt in this shooting. three mexican nationals we've also confirmed died in this shooting. the victims involved in this incident, whether they were killed or hurt, ranged from just 2 years old to people who were
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in their eighties. and here's texas governor greg abbott yesterday speaking about what happened in his state. >> the toughest conversation anybody can even imagine having, visiting with family members who are clutched with uncertainty about whether or not they lost a loved one. all we could do was to try to in instill hope, comfort, and support. >> investigators are also looking into the possibility of this shooting being characterized as a hate crime. right now they're looking at a manifesto and trying to confirm if in fact the suspected shooter wrote it. in it officials have described racist and anti-immigrant language, but police haven't gone any further into the details about what could possibly be a motive. they're also searching the home of the suspected shooter which is in allen, texas, which is about a ten our drive away. and one of the things we want to touch on is just the spirit of this community here in el paso.
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we stand out here we've seen people showing up trying to give first responders coffee, food, and as you've seen in that video there, there were lines of people lining up to donate blood so it's incredible to see this community come together after such a horrific incident. back to you. griff: jeff, thank you. pete: here to react we've got -- first of all, we'll give you president trump's reaction as we bring in darren as well. here's how the president reacted to the attack. tweeted: today's shooting in el paso, texas, was not only tragic it was an act of cowardice. i know i stand with everyone in this country to condemn today's hateful act. there are no reasons or excuses that will ever justify killing innocent people. melania and i send our heartfelt thoughts and prayers to the great people of texas." now darren portra, nypd veteran, obviously these acts are an act of cowardice, shooting innocent people that are unarmed. next of el paso, what's your take-away as far as the security protocols, how the police reacted, the number of people killed, what do we make of all
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this? pete:. >> when i look at the el paso shooting i see a great protection reflection of what happened with the nikolas cruz shooting in parkland. the shooting started in the parking lot and the assailant advanced into the facility. and so when i look at what happened in dayton, ohio, it was a very different dynamic. this is something that occurred outside. so when we take in consideration an active shooter protocol, they primarily focus on how you deal with things inside the place where the shooting is occurring. however, when we have a shooting that happens on a street, believe it or not, it's safer for us as citizens because you have more room to escape. so one of the first things that we know -- and you can attest to this pete -- is cover and concealment is the first thing that you think about. so when you're outside, you have trees, you have cars, this is a semblance of different things that you can establish for cover and concealment where you look at what happened in el paso, you're in an open mall, and you have to search far greater for that cover and concealment. jedediah: darren, in both cases
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the police responded within minutes, i mean, really astounding work on their party and i'm just curious what kind of preparation goes into drills that they may do in terms of law enforcement being prepared for unfortunate situations like this so that when something does strike they are able to to get there within moments and be able to act so efficiently. >> well, it's an ongoing task for police departments in terms of the active shooter protocols. this is something that's always evolving. so when i look at what happened in dayton, ohio, the shooter was -- the interdiction happened with the shooter in less than a minute. just by happenstance the officers were in close proximity so they were able to engagement the shooter right away whereas what happened in el paso it took them a little more time because the officers had to not only respond to the location, but locate the assailant inside of that business. so you have two different dynamics. and the truth of the matter is one of the things that we as law enforcement do in a place like new york city is we have a partnership with a lot of the local businesses where the nypd is able get into the video feeds
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for businesses, and so they can establish a location for where the assailant is. i'm not sure if they have that in a place like el paso, texas. but what i do think happened is there is a security network that works inside of that particular walmart, and the police connected with that security network, and that's how they were able to lock into the feed and locate the assailant. because, remember, you know what's so interesting about this was they never shot the assailant nor did the assailant fire at the officers because he ran out of bullets, which is a great thing for law enforcement, but it goes back to it needs to be a constant sustainment practice in these active shooter protocols. griff: darren, you mentioned in dayton the police reacted very quickly, under one minute. this shooter had a body armor, a a.223 long gun, additional magazines. the governor of ohio, mike de dewine, tweeting this, saying "i commend dayton police and other first responders for their bravery and quick response to
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save lives and bring an end to this tragedy. i have ordered the flags in ohio remain at half-mast in honor of the memory of the victims who lost their lives this morning." what can we learn and take away from the response there? >> i'll tell you, as a prior law enforcement officer, it sends chills down my spine whenever i hear of a .223 rifle on the scene because that goes through your vests. the only type of body armor that can protect you from a .223 caliber is a ceramic vest. it's a very heavy and cumbersome vest. it's very difficult for you to maneuver with something like that. so when i take in consideration responding officers, this was a pure act of gallantry to walk into and go against a .223 rifle because this is something that can clearly penetrate your vest. i think there were heroes here. i salute them. the same holds true when we look at an ak-47 down in el paso, texas -- pete: an even higher caliber round. >> what's interesting, if you
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look at the videos we've been seeing all morning you see an officer, a first responder that has an m4 rifle but at the same time he's doubling as a medical first responder, so that really shows you what these officers are doing and what they're faced with day to .ay pete: when you look at el paso a lot of people think, hey, this is texas, you've got a more armed citizenry there but also reports are that the mall that the walmart is attached to say gun-free zone as well. does it surprise you that it was law enforcement six minutes later? speak 20 that portion of it. >> well, i think the six-minute response was the location of the assailant. i think they got there much quicker than that. but it takes time for you to establish the location. and so that being be with your, yes, i do heart is beating out of your chest when you respond. we refer to these as gun runs. when you hear automatic gunfire to go into something like that, like i said i saw officers that had m4 rifles, but the truth of the matter is the average
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responding officer is equipped with a sidearm which is a 9 millimeter so this is something you really need to practice but you need to to get the heavy guns in there. griff: officer darren portras. thank you. jedediah: iran's revolutionary guard reportedly seizes a third straight oil tanker. iranian state media saying the ship was carrying 7,000 gallons of fuel. this comes just two weeks after iran seized a british tanker in the straight of hormuz. turning to extreme weather, downpour threatening the southeast this morning with more than two inches per hour expected in some spots, more than four inches of rain and flash flooding is possible for southern florida. days of rain, swamping orange county, trapping at least nine drivers in their cars. swimmers on high alert along a florida beach after two shark bites within minutes of each
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other. a female surfer getting stitches for bites to her hand and wrist. another male surfer also getting a minor bite on his foot. police are investigating the size and type of shark that bit them. new smyrna beach has seen four shark attacks in the last two weeks. those are your headlines. griff: continuing coverage of our top stories. two deadly shootings in less than 24 hours. el paso mayor dean margot and texas governor dan patrick joining us next. that's your reflection. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪
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ohio, more than a dozen injured in a busy saturday night in downtown dayton. this just hours after a gunman opened fire in a walmart in el paso killing 20 and injuring dozens more. here to react obama obama tech joey jones. joe, thanks for joining us this morning. a lot of angles to this. you have the heroism of first responders, the cowardice of someone pulling triggers on civilians and then of course folks always to want make it about guns quite quickly. when you look at these two shootings, what do you take away away? >> well, first, i've had a lot more time to think and react to what happened in el paso, obviously, outside of ohio. first the most important thing to say is we're a strong country we love each other and we'll get through this together. secondly i think it's important. i was one of the people ten years ago saying i want the muslim community to renounce extremist terrorism, mad that president obama didn't want to say terrorist extremism because
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it might offend someone. i think it's important to say this morning that if you're out there or you're a white supremacist or you think you are or you're thinking about it, we renounce you. the conservative movement is a big tent. it's not big enough for you. you're not american, you're not patriotic. this isn't a country for you, and you need to seek help if you're a victim of abuse or illness, and if you do anything evil, we will find you, we will hunt you down, we will take you out, and we will never remember you, your name, your face, or anything about you. we renounce you. i don't know if that was the motive. i can't prescribe that to the person in el paso, it's a believe motive and it's a big talking point on social media today. it's important that we say that, we've said it, people understand that, sane people already know it. so as we move forward how can we keep people safe and people in all walks of life safe. pete: of course that's why in this program we're not showing the image or naming the name of that person. they don't deserve that kind of recognition. on this program this morning we're trying to play it straight straight.
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don't want to dip into politics, but of course folks running for president end up doing that and they immediately point to guns. how do we address this situation without saying we're talking about gun confiscation? >> well, we address the fact that this is a problem in this country where people do evil things; right? we are in the country that is so free that the responsibility and power of our freedom is great, and the only people in this country that can keep each other in check are one another. so see something, say something are things that aren't just anecdotes. they're things that we have to do and act on. we are communities that hold ourselves together and respond. there's a hero -- there are multiple heroes from both of these instances, and we need to praise them, understand how they acted, why they acted, be willing to do it ourselves, and then look for solutions that stop things like this from happening, be open to ideas but understanding that with every action is a reaction. simply banning something doesn't make the country safer in my opinion. if you have that argument bring it to the table honestly and
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we'll talk about it. don't bring it to the table looking for a political win which is what people running for president are doing and it really quite honestly ticks me off . pete: rightfully so. joey, quickly, in dayton, ohio, the first responders were there in under a minute taking out the murderer that quickly. your response to the kind of courage that that requires. >> it's running straight to fire fire. there's no second thought, there's no second-guessing, there's no self-preservation. human beings and inner species conflict we have four responses: fight, flight, posture, and submission. so one out of four of those is fight, and each one of those officers shows fight and saved people's lives. i commend them. the first time i got shotatic tell you my initial response was to freeze. the second time was to fight. it took training and conditioning. there are heroes among us. i hope there's more like them. pete: i had the same first response. it's something you don't get
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used to. joey jones, thank you very much. we continue to follow breaking news out of el paso among the first responders, border patrol agents, acting cvp commissioner mark morgan joins us live to react next. bookers are booking getaway deals starting from 15% off. so their tacos are 15% tastier,
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el paso, texas. more than two dozen people were killed in the past 24 hours. the president tweeting moments ago, the f.b.i. and local and state law enforcement are working in el paso and in dayton ohio. information is rapidly being accumulated. in dayton much has already been learned. in el paso law enforcement was very rapid in both instances. updates will be given throughout the .ay jedediah: the u.s. customs and border protection was one of those agencies helping to respond in el paso. act vbp commissioner mark morgan joins us now with an update. mark, welcome to the show. looking at this horrific shooting in el paso can you give us an update on the role of cbp
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in terms of assisting throughout this crisis? >> sure. first i want to say that i actually lived and worked in el paso for several years. it's an incredible city filled with incredible people and one of the great things that i love was that the law enforcement community was some of the strongest relationships i've ever experienced in my 25 years of law enforcement, and yesterday's evil hate-fueled event absolutely showed that. customs and border protection personnel, we were there within minutes. we provided tactical support, medical support, aerial support, we have peer support and a whole host of other personnel there were on there immediately to help the el paso p.d. do their job. griff: mark, i want to ask you obviously border patrol officials down there in el paso and everywhere in the country are returning to do their job on this border. give us an update. we know mexico is helping. we've also got more lawmakers visiting in areas like el paso. >> so, griff, thanks for that question. and right now the american
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people need to understand what's going on with the government of mexico and why that's happening. right now the government of mexico is assisting in unprecedented ways. they've got over 20,000 troops at their southern border, the u.s.-mexico border, strengthening both of those borders as well as interior enforcement. this is helped by this president and his administration. that's why mexico is stepping up up. there's mother thing called the mpp, migrant protection protocol protocol. through that program we have sent 27,000 individuals to mexico to wait while they're going through the asylum process process. that's 27,000 individuals that would have been in our holding areas or released into the united states. that's a game changer. griff: mark, i got to ask. multiple groups of republicans and democrats but democrats have been heading down to the border or plan to head down to the border and yet the crisis continues and congress has yet to move on it. do you feel like what they'll
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see there will be received earnestly and you'll have any shot of congress doing anything about the magnet that's been created to come to our country. >> no, pete, i have absolutely no faith that congress is going to step up and do what they need to do. and that should disturb the american people. they know exactly what they need to do, fix the floor settlement agreement where we can detain people more than 20 days, treat children fromn different countries the same so we can send them back to their families and fix the problem with asylum. they know what they need to do, they've known it for a long time they're not going to do it. so this administration has said, we're going to continue to do initiatives within this legal framework and we continue to do more every single day to address this crisis that congress will not . jedediah: mark, cbp has released some shocking video showing smugglers dismantling an out outborder infrastructure near el centro, california. how can anyone see that video and not understand the importance of not only border security, but of updating, when you talk about a wall, when you
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talk about fencing, how could you not be on board with making these issues better when you see what's actually happening in a video like this? >> jedediah, i don't have a good answers for that 'cause you're exactly right. look at that. right now what you're seeing, that is an area where brand-new wall is going to be built, but the rhetoric is out there and some are saying j.l., well, no new wall has been built." well, i guarantee you that spot right there that you're showing, that is going to be a brand-new wall system. it's not just a wall. it's going to have integrated technology, it's going to have integrated lining, access roads and again it's going to be part of that multilayer strategy of infrastructure, technology, and personnel that we're building new wall every single week. i think we're up to about 55 miles, and with the supreme court decision, we're looking at over 450 new miles of wall that's going to be built and is absolutely going to help the propped strengthen the southwest border.
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griff: mark, how concerned are you that this divisive issue, whether you're talking a republican visiting the borders or democrats visiting it, it's become a political issue, your guys, the law enforcement officers on the front line are not going to get help in the near future? >> so, griff, again, that is a great question that is so frustrating. the men and women of cbp, specifically border patrol, you know, on the southwest border, they're doing their job every single day. they've been asked to do stuff that they were never trained to do on the humanitarian side and they're frustrated, griff, they're frustrated not because they're asked to be doing a whole bunch of stuff, but they're frustrated because congress is not acting to do their job, to give them the resources, change the loopholes in the laws so they can safeguard this border. that's why they're frustrated. jedediah: mark, i don't have any expectation that they're going to come together. this is a -- now everything has become a political talking point
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is he head to 2020 to i have no expectation that democrats are going to help president trump out with this. as always i appreciate you. griff: appreciate you being here mark, and he with appreciate all of your officers down in el paso coming and rescue. we continue following breaking news out of texas. 20 people killed, dozens hurt in a shooting in el paso. the mayor of that city, dee marg margo joins us live. why don't we just ask geico for help with renters insurance? i didn't know geico helps with renters insurance. yeah, and we could save a bunch too. antonio! fetch computer! antonio? i'll get it. get to know geico and see how much you could save on renters insurance.
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pete: we're. >> we're back with a being fox news letter. two deadly shootings in less than 24 hours. president trump tweeted, "god bless the people of else else, god bless the people of dayton, ohio." here's what we know so far after a shooter was in downtown dayto. >> we got shots fired, lots of people down. we'll need a lot of medics. >> i got everybody coming to yo. jedediah: 26 others now confirmed hurt. the gunman, armed with a long gun and several magazines, opened fire outside a popular bar around 1 a.m. eastern time. police say the suspect wore body armor. officers stopped the threat within one minute of that first- first-shot-fired call. griff: this morning the f.b.i. is on scene. so far no word on motive. pete: the shooting in ohio comes hours after another deadly shooting at a walmart in el paso texas. a gunman opened fire yesterday afternoon, killing 20 people and
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injuring dozens more. >> it was the most horrendous thing i've seen over there. i saw the shooter maybe 20 feet from me started shooting. griff: a 21-year-old suspect is in custody. we now want to bring you el paso paso's mayor, dee margo live, mr. mayor, our thoughts and prayers are with you and your community. what is the latest? >> well, the latest is they're still processing the scene, notifying next of kin, and send the victims to the morgue. families are still waiting to hear, finally. this evil act will not define el paso. jedediah: mayor, i want to commend the medical community in el paso, i want to commend the law enforcement, the police were on the ground so quickly. talk to us a little bit about what the feeling is on the ground right now in that community that has been shocked by this terrible tragedy. >> well, this is just so a
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atypical for our region and the culture of our people. we're the largest binational, bi bicultural region in north america. we've been this way for 350 years. i have said on several occasions i do not believe this act would have ever been perpetrated by an el pasoan, somebody from out of town. deranged and evil. it's still kind of surreal. just any time you lose a loved one there's a pause and you try to figure out -- it's hard to imagine when they were there 24 hours previously. i think it's going to get a little tougher for us as time goes on, not so much easier, but until we get through these 20 funerals, it's going to be tough tough. pete: that puts -- what a stark image, 20 funerals, the cost of this kind of evil, as you put it properly said. reports are it was about six minutes between the call and when the situation was contained contained. no shots fired. can you tell us anything about what the officers initially encountered when they were at the walmart that, you know, --
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was the shooter surrendering? what do we know about that moment? >> well, what i gathered is, you're right, the call went out at 10:39 a.m. yesterday morning. police were on scene at 10:45, six minutes later. and at 11:06 he was apprehended. my understanding is that a policeman pulling up to block off the street saw him and stopped him and he had his weapon with him but that's the gist of what i know. i haven't been fully briefed in specifics on that. griff: mr. mayor, as americans are waking up across the country are there things you need from the american people from the federal level? >> well, from the federal level, you know, we're not sure yet. everybody's responding. we have all the law enforcement agencies, the f.b.i., our police department, all -- texas department of public safety,
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they're all here, you know, going through the scene and verifying the evidence and, you know, building a case. i think we're okay on that resources. people are -- this is an outstanding, generous community. they're out giving blood. you know, they're visiting, they're having vigils. i'll be at a vigil this evening. this is just not going to define us. we're a different community than anything reflective of this whatsoever. we've been one of the safest cities in the nation for years. we've been ranked number one, number two, or number three, and we will continue to be a safe city, and we are a resentment city. jedediah: mayor, we want to thank you so much for being here here. our hearts go out to you, to the entire community and we just want you to know that all of the country is with you. you're in our thoughts and prayer. thank you so much for taking the time to be with us today. griff: thank you, mr. mayor. >> thank you. griff: we want to take you now to a press conference at a medical center in el paso for an
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update. >> people who had no medical training at all. we're extremely disgraceful for the stock of (unintelligible) developed by the american college of surgeons and has been taught so successfully throughout the el paso community by both the border react and the del sol and the courses they have put out. thousands of people have already been treated in the maneuvers necessary to provide lifesaving care at such a site has happened yesterday. it's also important to recognize the emts, paramedics and firefighters who were the first responders to this event, the el paso fire department providing care at the point of injury starting their successful journey through the medical system, getting these patients
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to us alive. del sol medical center is a trauma center. that means that this hospital has established itself through the guidelines set forth by the american college of surgeons and the state of texas to meet a higher standard of preparation, availability of resources. it's a tremendous commitment put forth by hca health care and del sol medical center to be ready for any one trauma patient, never mind such a large volume of patients arising at one time. so we are ready at any given time to take care of trauma patients. but when faced with notification that a large number of patients coming, it changes the situation situation. immediately we begin the triage process. what's going on in our operating room? who really needs to be there? can we be ready for the first
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patients who are going to arrive arrive? we started that process as soon as we had confirmation of injured patients at the scene that were coming here. we also have to be prepared for the number of providers that it would take to be able to provide their care. it's incredible how people came from home on their days off, dropped whatever they were doing and came here -- doctors, nurses support staff, administrators, everybody came immediately to del sol medical center to do their jobs and help us provide care. we had community surgeons come to the hospital on their day off off. we had a surgeon from william montgomery medical center come over and officer assistance. del sol medical center has a unique relationship with the united states army in its coordination of care with the
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providers, the surgeons over at william back in a moment army medical center. they have, of course, the requirement to deploy and their work over here on a regular basis to help ensure the sustain sustainment of their skills to be ready to go to iraq, afghanistan, and other points around the world. several of them came to the hospital yesterday to help us. we're truly grateful for their support. the care of these patients will be ongoing, as i said, throughout the week. it was a long night. it was a long day. large volumes of blood and blood products were used. i know that blood centers here in town had a tremendous response from the community. people coming out offered to donate blood. extremely critical.
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that's the lifesaving force that we give to people. there's no value in putting saltwater into a patient who's bleeding blood. the teams are going to be busy. all of the nurses, the support staff, the surgeons, the anesthesiologists, even the non nonsurgical providers, our medical colleagues, came from all points in the hospital to say "how can we help you?" as we were taking care of these patients yesterday. we're extremely grateful for their assistance and support in the care of the patients throughout yesterday. i think i'll turn it over to you david, and see if there are any further questions. >> i think the comments that governor abbott and mayor margo ended up making about el paso as a community certainly resonated and i don't know that they were
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felt stronger anywhere than here at del sol medical center. certainly the team of care providers that came together for these 11 patients was nothing short of exceptional. we do anticipate likely at least one of those patients being discharged today as some of the other stable patients as they wake up, as we situation, we'll evaluate when they can end up being discharged home. again, please make sure that we're keeping the thoughts and prayers of everyone specifically for those most critically injured patients as well as their families. happy to be able to open this up to questions. >> are -- considering the type of weapon that we believe to have been used, can you speak to any of the wounds or injuries, or are we talking about how many people have been shot multiple times? have there been amputations? can you speak at all to the specifics of some of the treatments and some of the
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wounds that have been seen by the surgical team? >> i can't speak to all the specifics. again, i mean, we're treating the individual patients for the needs that they have. yes, ma'am? >> sir, (unintelligible) heard from the families of people who (unintelligible) do you know if all of the patients here have been in contact with families or have in some way have their families been -- >> yes. all of the patients that we have here have been. i will tell you that that was a very difficult process. patients were coming to us with no identification, obviously completely unconscious and our ability to be able to identify them was not an easy thing. we were able to work with all the families and ultimately were able to identify all of the patients. >> question for you, dr. (unintelligible). i know you mentioned that you are prepared -- or trained, rather, to respond to something like this, but when you see the large number of patients coming in, as you mentioned, what is going through your mind as you
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react to that? >> yeah. it's a difficult situation, of course, and training is critical for helping to shape that response. so it's very important for everybody to understand that there's an entire infrastructure above this that prepares for these kinds of events. in fact, we recently had an exercise where we did a mock drill of what if there had been an active shooter in the city, how would those patients be distributed in the city, how would the hospital respond. we actually brought people into the hospital to do a dry run of the situation just like that before. so we have been through this before without the real patients patients. but, as you know, when this happens for real and it's not just an exercise, there's a lot of feelings and emotions that come into it that is hard to prepare for. and i think that, you know, what we do is we focus on our job, we
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try to rely on that concept of muscle memory. "okay. i did this before. this is what i was trained to do do. this is where i go, and this is what i'm supposed to do." but when the patients are there in front of you, there's always the emotional overtone, and we have to do what we need to do for the patients at the time and take some time to think about it it. and, you know, all of the -- the entire health care team really needs to go through that process of understanding the emotional reaction just a little bit later later. and we're very grateful to the help that david shimp provides to us with the kind of people that come in and help talk to the staff and understand and talk through that process. >> how are the teams doing in terms of sleep in were a lot of them up throughout the night working patients and what kind of rotation are they on right now in terms of trying to get
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rest in the all hands on deck situation? on terms of 12 hours camera, sir. but generally speaking the teams are rotating through and making sure that they're getting the rest they need and still being able to provide for the patients patients. >> were all of the victims gunshot victims? >> i'm not entirely certain. i know that one of them was -- had fallen in trying to escape, and so i don't believe that that particular individual had suffered a gunshot wound but still had injuries that we needed to treat. yes, ma'am. >> there are some reports circulating that some patients -- or some wounded may have been (unintelligible) immigration. i wonder if any of those (unintelligible) have been presented or you're aware of that.
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and if so what would you say to -- >> if somebody's injured, we will take care of anyone. i mean, that's our mission, is to make sure that we're providing care to any injured patient, to anybody that needs care. that's a responsibility; that's an obligation. and so undocumented citizen or not, we're going to do everything we can to make sure that we're providing exceptional care for them. yes, sir? gentleman (unintelligible) cbs (unintelligible). the question doctor is for you. you said you went through trillions before of an active shooter situation. how do you talk with the other hospitals? do you only take in 11 victims or do you kind of cooperate with the other hospitals as far as how many you could take and they could take, of patients? >> so there's a very well organized system that helps to organize that. the border rack, which is an organization that is charged
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with helping to coordinate responses for emergency medicine and trauma, has a -- you know, a center that stands up, just as an emergency response center stands up here at the hospital, and that information is communicated as high as it needs to go, often as high as the state. so there is information shared about number of beds available -- griff: all right. an update there from the el paso del sol medical center. dr. steven flaherty there talking about being prepared as a level 1 facility for this sort of thing. fortunately, they were ready. i looked on the google maps. they're about two and a half miles from the site of the shooting to this hospital. clearly the medical staff there working very hard to save li.es pete: yeah, sharing what they can about patients while also, of course, observing the privacy in this moment, families being notified. we'll bring you the latest when we get it. griff: all right. a lot of 2020 democrats promising free college, but a new op-ed says that would actually hurt minorities.
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♪ jedediah: democratic hopefuls calling for free college as part of their progressive education agenda. pete: but our next guest warns this would only hurt minorities and low income americans. griff: here to explain fox news contributor and campusreform.org editor-in-chief lawrence jones. good morning, lawrence. >> good morning. griff: what's going on with this this? >> well, i mean, a lot of these candidates are promising a program essentially that would pay for college for everybody, but one thing they don't know how they're going to pay for. but i think the larger question that we need to have in this country: should everyone be going to college. right? there's a lot of people that were promised when they were growing up that if you worked
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hard, you got a good -- went to college, you would get a good job, pay a lot of money. well, that's absolutely not the case. there are a lot of people with degrees that don't have jobs in this country because the market is either oversaturated or it's not paying enough. and so the question is, should minorities or anybody, for example, should be putting all their eggs into the college system when they can go out and create a successful business or go to some type of trade school. these schools have become, as we reported on campus reform, just an indoctrination ground. a lot of promises being made that can't be kept on these college campuses. i think it's just setting up a generation to be entitled. what about all the people that are in this country that have already paid for college? do they get their money back? a lot of the candidates haven't been able to describe that. jedediah: lawrence, it's a good sound bite; right? i mean, you can put that in with all the other free stuff that's getting promised by the elizabeth warrens and the bernie sanders, and i'm starting that
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worry that it doesn't matter if it's actually good policy; all that matters in an election season is that it's a good bite. >> right. since we're in a democratic primary, many of the candidates want to -- the new thing is " "free," right? and so when you don't have to tell voters how you got to pay for it, i think it's easy to say "oh, 90% of americans support this." who doesn't want free stuff? but at the end of the day the generation that they claim they're going to be paying college for are going to be left to pay for this stuff. and when you see the national debt rising the way it is, i think a lot of these candidates when it comes to the general election are going to have to explain why they have so many policy proposals that can't be funded. of course, what we going to do, print more money? pete: nope, can't do that, not right now. lawrence jones, thank you for your time, you've got a lot of efforts on foxnation.com that chokes should check out. jedediah: next we are staying on top of the tragic shooting in el paso, texas, that claimed 20 lives. the lieutenant governor of texas
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pete: we are back with a fox news alert, two deadly shootings in less than 24 hours. one in texas and one in ohio. president trump reacting to this tragedy this morning, tweeting, "the fbi local and state law enforcement are working together in el paso and in dayton, ohio. information is rapidly become accumulated in dayton, much has been learned in el paso. law enforcement was very rapid in both instances updates will be given throughout the day and also tweeted god bless the people of el paso, texas and the people of dayton, ohio. overnight nine people were killed the shooter opened fire outside a downtown bar in dayton >> people were shot in the back >> we think there's one shooter he is down. jedediah: 26 others now confirm ed hurt and the gun monday with several magazines opened fire around 1:00 a.m.
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eastern time police say the suspect wore body armor. dayton's mayor commended the officers to stop the threat within one minute of the first shots fired call. >> it is a terribly sad day for our city. i am amazed by the quick response of dayton police that saved literally hundreds of lives. griff: congressman mike turner says his daughter was nearby when the shooting started and she wrote how she and her friends reported the visible dayton police presence and the bravery they witnessed as officers ran towards the gun shots. this morning the fbi is on scene , no word on the motive. pete: the shooting in ohio comes hours after another deadly shooting at a walmart in el paso , texas. griff: a gunman opened fire yesterday afternoon killing 20 people and injuring dozens more. >> it was the most more horrendous thing i've ever seen.
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jedediah: we're now going to bring in texas lt. governor dan patrick, lt. governor welcome to the show. thank you so much for being here >> good morning. jedediah: our hearts go out to you for this horrific shooting and to your community and to the medical community, in el paso and everywhere that has been suffering as a result of this atrocious shooting. can you give us the latest on the ground in your community of what's happening right now? >> well, and we want to send our prayers their population and their government, their law enforcement their doctors are going through the same ordeal at this time, and we can't over emphasize the bravery of law enforcement, how everyone showed up everywhere to do their job and put their lives on the line and i just watched from the medical center the incredible job they've donald the latest that i would like to share with you, because the latest is we
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have our 20 casualties. 20 fatalities. we hope it stays at that number. we know we have some people in serious condition at the hospital still. this is the fourth shooting since i've been lt. governor and governor abbott has been on watch, we were elected in 14, the fourth shooting we've had, 2,016, five officers in dallas, 2017, and 2018, ten at santa fe and now this tragedy. 61 people have lost their lives in this violence, and i think it's time for all of america to take a real close look, if we haven't already, we should have, of where we are. governor abbott talked about yesterday we did three days of hearings with experts from law enforcement to mental health to every aspect after the santa fe shooting to try to get some answers and try to come up with some policies that we enacted this past session but as i stayed up all night to be honest with you. every time we go to another funeral which we'll have 20
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coming, it chips away at our heart. everyone, you know, there are thousands of people in el paso, one of my favorite cities in texas it's wonderful city with wonderful people. all these people will be impacted the extensions of friends and families and neighbors and co-workers. this takes a tremendous toll on any community and i look at this evil act and let's condemn it for what it is, evil, evil, and i say how long are we going to ignore it at the federal level particularly where they can do something about the video game industry. in this manifesto that we believe is from the shooter, this where he talks about living out his super soldier, fantasy or in the call of duty we know the video game industry is bigger than the movie and music industry combined and there have been studies that says it impacts people and studies that says that it does not but i look at the common denominators as a father and grandfather myself,
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what's changed in this country? we've always had guns and evil but what's changed where we've seen this rash of shooting and i see a video game industry that teaches young people to kill. he said this is not a republican or democrat thing because he was concerned about robots and the environment and immigrants. obviously a hate crime i think in my view against immigrants from this young man, just my view. we haven't had an official report on that and i don't mean to talk on but my heart is so heavy this morning because i think where are we as a country? i look at social media. the violence of just bullying people on social media every day we turn our head and we allow it i look at sunday morning when most of your viewers right now, half of the country are getting ready to go to church and yet tomorrow, we won't let our kids even pray in our schools. we have to look at ourselves as a nation, that's many factors that go into these shootings. many factors and it's not time to politicize, it's a time to
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look deep inside of who we a cor salute our flag or we throw water on law enforcement thank god we have law enforcement. thank god we have them in times like this, and so it's a lot of factors that go on that we have to take a long look at who we are as a nation and where we want to go and what we're going to tolerate on social media and video games. i'm sorry. griff: lt. governor governor, you packed a lot in there, very important points, let me ask you is there a solution or answers that you believe lie somewhere between the white house and the halls of congress? >> i do believe there are and i believe we need to have a commission on looking and blue ribbon panels kind of are a bad name. they often meet and do nothing but we need to just say do we want to be a society? let's look at at this manifesto. it was on a dark website where the same killer in christ church new zealand, and the killer in san diego and now this killer allegedly we'll confirm all of
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this but from what we can see all posted on the same site. what are we as a nation to say we're going to tolerate and allow a website that lets killer s post their manifesto before and after the act? that there are people applauding this act of what happened and it could be in the same in ohio. was that a copycat crime? i have no idea but why are we allowing that? why are we allowing young people or anyone to go to a website to learn and be killed and be praised to put this manifesto allowed and our children are watching video games again larger than the music industry and the movie industry combined. are we ignoring that? this was a maybe a video game to this evil demon. a video game to him. he has no sense of humanity, no sense of life. he wanted to be a super soldier, for his call of duty game, so we need to look at all of this and who we are and as long as we
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continue to only praise god and look at god on a sunday morning and kick him out of the town square at our schools the other six days of the week what do we expect? what do we expect? there's no excuse for this. we condemn it totally but as a nation we have to look at this and leave all of the politics out of it. i've already seen too many politics online since the shooting yesterday that makes me sick. this is all of our problem. republican/democrats, independents, black, white, and brown, male, female, young, middle age and old. we all have to attack this because it's not acceptable any more. pete: governor how do we get past the politics? i'm seeing same statements on titanner saying i'm done with thoughts and prayers and folks that say prayers are not helpful at this moment, and then they oftentimes go to gun control as an answer, and not to get into that policy debate but how do we find common ground and move past the politics? >> i realize we're in a
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presidential election cycle and i guess it will be tough but i've seen our country coming together before with republicans and democrats. let's find real solutions. i know people want to ban assault weapons but i think back about the shooting, the church back in november of 2017 i believe, and steven wollo ford, who was the hero, people forget the heros names like law enforcement victims name, they don't even remember the killer's name but he grabbed his automatic weapon and put two shots into that killer that day, and probably saved other lives because that killer could have gone to a church nearby and killed another 20 or 30 people, so it's not the gun. it's the people behind the gun. no more than a drunk driver. it's not the car, it's the irresponsible or deadly person that gets behind the wheel and it's not every video game. i know after the school shooting i talked about the video game culture. i've got a lot of terrible negative feedback probably get
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some today wherefore people i play video games it doesn't make me shoot someone but it doesn't impact someone, and when i see these links you start looking at go and do the homework. do some investigative reporting which you all do a great job of of what is the link between all of these shooters and how many people they killed because they keep track of it. somebody has it on the internet somewhere. the games have it you get awarded for how many people you can kill. we have games called "hatred"," agony" and when we look at our social media, we tolerate, we need to take charge of the kids at home at night how long are they on the internet, what are they saying the bully ing that we see. that's another type of violence in our community and thoughts and prayers i know there are people who criticize me i put a scripture up on my web page every sunday i get criticized by the anti-god groups. everyone drops to their knees
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and prays after the event. we bert start facing god before an event so maybe we don't have to pray as much after the event and i'll tell you going to countless funerals for law enforcement in dallas to student s in the schools to all of these services that the governor and i and others go to, to pay respect to those i can tell you if it weren't for their faith in god, these communities and these parents and these people couldn't get through. i don't know how they make it without it and el paso, a heavy hispanic community where the catholic church and the evangelical church is so strong in that community i guarantee you these people weren't just praying today on this sunday. they were praying last sunday too and with ehave to take it to god, but as a nation, it's a dark time for our country and we better wake up and take responsibility. every one of us has to take responsibility. every one has to take responsibility. you don't have to be in office to take responsibility. you don't have to be in law enforcement. you don't have to be a teacher to take it. everyone has to take it. jedediah: you know lt. governor you talk about community and i don't think we can stress enough
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the importance of building up those communities. el paso is a community. it's a beautiful community and it's a community that really has inspired a nation when you look at the medical community we've heard from so many doctors this morning. when you look at the law enforcement community, we've heard from people in law enforcement. everyone in el paso has come together to try to heal that community together and you really can't underestimate that power throughout the country and the whole country is with you by the way and we are grieving with you but you can't underestimate the power of building that up ahead of a tragedy so that when something heaven forbid does strike that community comes together and they are a life force. they are a force together and we just want, i just want to commend you, i know we all do commend the communities of el paso for being so incredibly inspiring to the whole nation despite this tragedy the way they are fighting through this trouble it, it is incredible to witness. >> well i've seen it along with
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governor abbot all across the state from all those shootings i mentioned from hurricane harvey. we are an incredible nation state i would call it. we're an incredible state of texas and we're proud of our law enforcement, our medical community, we're proud of all of our citizens, because people are good, people are inherently good and what we can't lose sight of is when we see this evil happen black, brown, and white are there issues in this country are there people on the fringes that are hateful? yes, but are we a hateful nation no. i don't see it. i don't believe it. people are good, but sometimes we can live in denial, that this doesn't impact me, until it does pete: absolutely. >> so what i'm saying is we need as a government, the republicans, the democrats, that come together, tough times for a presidential year but to come together put the politics aside look at all of these issues, because this didn't happen when i grew up. this didn't happen for lots of people when they grew up so what's changed and look at those common denominators and what's
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griff: for the second round of democratic debates now in the books and over the course of two nights the 2020 hopefuls go over policy proposals ranging from medicare for all to free college however two topics received notably less airtime, foreign policy and national security in a new op-ed our next guest writes, "because so much was said about these vital issues it's impossible to say if any of the 20 candidates on the stage over the two nights passed the commander-in-chief test." well joining us now to discuss it national security analyst and international relations expert rebecca grant. good morning, rebecca. >> good morning, griff.
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griff: did we learn anything about how any of these candidate s on that stage over two nights would lead on the foreign policy front? >> every one of those 20 candidates is running to be commander-in-chief, and to take over on january 20, 2021, but we did not learn much and what we did learn was pretty scary. we learned that while some have military experience, others like senator warren get real tangled up in nuclear doctrine. griff: we used to, rebecca, hear a lot about the 3:00 a.m. phone calls things happening there. we were talking earlier in the show about possibly withdrawal or not if there's a deal with afghanistan. why are we not hearing more about these issues? >> early days in the campaign, they want donations, they want to introduce themselves, but i think it's high time for us to hear more about what they would do, all the candidates want out of afghanistan, but really none of them have given us a clear plan. let me contrast that, griff, with what candidate barack obama
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did in 2008. he made a powerful statement about pulling out of iraq that really set obama apart from senator clinton and the others in the primary. same thing with donald trump in 2016 early on he said he'd get nato allies to pay more and then confirm he would carry on that anti because we had no choice. those were really strong commander-in-chief statements, and they resonated with voters. we need to see those 2020 dems give us something like that. griff: well i'll put you on the spot quickly if you had to pick one of those candidates that stood out with a strong answer, who would it be? >> well the one that stood out strongly worried me the most and that was senator elizabeth warren saying she would go for no first use of nuclear weapons when in fact our policy is to say hey, russia, you attack our allies give into their territory and we might pass a nuclear weapon on your military forces that was eisenhower's policy, its been a policy for many years
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, her answer worried me the most. griff: all right, rebecca grant, thank you for joining us this morning. we'll see what the next debate brings. thank you. >> thank you, griff. griff: all right, bill maher is at it again hoping america's booming economy takes a nose dive. >> bring on the recession. >> a recession is a survivable event. i've been hoping for a recession , people hate me for it griff: maria bartiromo sounds off on that, coming up. she joins us live. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. we're the tenney's and we're usaa members for life. call usaa to start saving on insurance today. and we'you wouldn't accept life. from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. flonase.
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but tv host bill maher is hoping for it to take a nose dive. >> one way you get rid of trump is a crashing economy, so please , bring on the recession. >> a recession is a survivable event. what trump is doing to this country is not. >> i'm hoping for a recession. people hate me for it but it would get rid of trump so you shouldn't hate me for it. >> recessions are really bad. people lose their jobs. >> i know. griff: well our next guest is fired up saying bill maher should be ashamed of himself here with more "sunday morning futures" host maria bartiromo. what is with him? maria: well it's crazy. he really should be ashamed of himself griff and the reason is because recessions matter and they hurt. it's very difficult to get through a recession. in the 2008 recession which was the worst situation we had seen in a generation almost 3 million people lost their jobs just between 2008 and 2009. not only that, hundreds, thousands of others lost everything. they lost the value of their
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home. they lost their entire 401 (k) value, so in order to say something like ts, you showing o care whatsoever for the rest of the country. not everybody is a comedian making millions of dollars on tv every day. pete: we're probably going to say the same thing. the recession isn't going to hit him. it's going to hit regular folks. maria: that's right it hills regular folks and it's in the millions and it's going to be a loss of job perhaps, a loss of value in their home and a loss of everything that they thought they had for retirement, so the recessions can really hurt. to say bring on the recession shows a complete, you know, not caring for the rest of the country, while he's sitting in his post making millions, making jokes, on television every night not evidence has your situation, bill maher. jedediah: you know this is why trump won because they say they would say things like this, like just as long as you get rid of trump it doesn't matter.
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this stuff does not resonate. people at home i'm sorry i don't care if you like bill maher, don't say that, bill, it doesn't work. maria: not only that but you see the impact of the words that people are shocked when he says it and then you see the next day when you have a tough day in the market, you have a tough day in the economy. people, this hurts the weakest of us all. and this is really hurting the lower income scale, a lot of his viewers by the way. griff: you've got house min leader kevin mccarthy a huge guest coming up. what are you going to talk to him about? maria: a lot of things. obviously we'll get his take on these tragedies that we'll talk about all day but also get into how he's going to take back the house in 2020. he's got a plan in the middle of it lots of resignations happening. retirements are happening once again so he's got a plan to deal with these retirements to take back the house we'll talk about that. i will have breaking news, i have the whole story about why john ratcliffe pulled his name out from consideration, so i've
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got my sources tell me exactly what went on. it is not a good story. mitch mcconnell and richard burr left him for dead. they did not even have a meeting with him. i'll tell you all about it in the next hour. we also will have breaking news because we've got trey gowdy coming on and we've also got representative tim ryan, obviously he was on the debate stage the other day we'll ask about the left and the looney left with tim ryan and we're also talking to trey gowdy which i'll also have breaking news. remember a couple of months ago trey gowdy mentioned that e-mail that he said will change people 's minds? it was a transcript of a conversation that george papadopoulos had had with an informant? we've got that news as well. griff: you'll be busy. maria: breaking news in the next hour. pete: thank you. maria. jedediah: a fox news alert, two deadly shootings in the last 24 hours. nine killed in dayton, ohio and 20 killed in el paso. we are live for an update, coming up, next. tual customized my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. and this is me now!
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pete: we're back with a fox news alert, two deadly shootings, one in texas, one in ohio. jedediah: president trump reacting to the tragedy tweeting "the fbi, local and state law enforcement are working together in el paso and in dayton, ohio. information is rapidly being accumulated in dayton. much has already been learned in el paso. law enforcement was very rapid in both instances, updates will be given throughout the day. he also tweeted "god bless the people of el paso, texas, god bless the people of dayton, ohio " pete: overnight nine people
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were killed after a shooter opened fire outside of a downtown dayton bar. 26 others now confirmed hurt. the gunman armed with a long gun and several magazines of amunition opened fire around 1:00 a.m. eastern time. police say the surveillances wore body armor. griff: officers stopped the threat within one minute of that first shots fired call. the mayor of dayton addressing the tragedy in her city this morning. >> has been through a lot already this year, and i continue to be amazed by the resiliency of our community. certainly, this is the day that will be filled with prayer for our citizens, prayer for the families and friends, and prayer for our community. griff: the shooting in ohio comes hours after another deadly shooting at a walmart in el paso , texas. the gunman opened fire killing 20 people and injuring 26 more, health officials say two of the injured were children.
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>> it just took me a second or two to realize what was happening. people started running all over the place. pete: a 21-year-old suspect is in custody governor greg abbott vowing to prosecute anyone responsible to the max. jedediah: jeff paul joins us live from el paso. jeff? >> yeah, as it becomes daylight here in el paso, we're really starting to see a lot more police activity, more troopers showing up on scene going in-n-out of the walmart, where this shooting happened and a big part of the reason why if you take a look behind me that this is still an active crime scene in a very big crime scene at that. officers and other investigators were in that walmart parking lot and throughout the facility, having to log and carefully go overall the evidence from this shooting that has left 20 people dead and dozens of others injured. now we know the first shots were fired off shortly after 10:30 a.m. local time, and this was a packed store, some estimates saying about 3,000
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people were inside, taking advantage of the tax-free weekend and for back-to-school shopping. witnesses say the suspect, who we are not naming, or showing his face, basically shot anything that was moving trying to kill as many people as possible. police responded within minutes and managed to take down the suspected shooter a 21-year-old white man from allen, texas, and brought him into custody without firing a single shot, and the victims we know, their ages range from as young as two years old to as old as 80. >> we took seven patients to the operating room today. they underwent a number of procedures by a number of different specialists, and it's expected that over the course of the next several days, we will need to do ongoing procedures on many of these patients. >> investigators are looking into the possibility of this shooting being characterized as
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a hate crime, and part of it has to go back to this suppose ed manifesto they are working to confirm if this suspected shooter in fact wrote this manifesto. officials who have read it describe racist and anti- immigrant language but police so far have not further elaborated on any sort of motive we also spoke off camera to the mayor here in el paso. he tells us that there are still some victims here on scene. others have already been removed but they are taking their time and he says this is going to be a long investigation. back to you. griff: a long one indeed, jeff paul, thank you very much in el paso. pete: earlier in the program, we had a powerful interview with the lt. governor of texas, dan patrick, as in these moments you search for answers, why and what is the cause of these things? well he came strong and this is what the lt. governor had to say earl your in the program. >> what's changed in this country? we've always had guns. we've always had evil but what's changed where we cease this rash
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of shootings? this was maybe a video game to this evil demon. a video game to him. no sense of humanity. no sense of life. he wanted to be a super soldier, for his call of duty game, so we need to look at all of this and who we are and as long as we continue to only praise god, and look at god on a sunday morning and kick him out of the town square and our schools the other six days of the week what do we expect? pete: pretty powerful big picture view. you kick god out you insert video games, kids don't have a sense of purpose and they cling for some glory that they get from this stuff. jedediah: and they really want to remedy this problem and he's in the midst showing really excellent leadership everyone on the ground in el paso and in dayton showing pretty phenomenal leadership inspiring to the rest of the country. we're going to turn to headlines for you now as san francisco university professor is now suing the school after being named in a lawsuit against
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anti-semitism on campus. he says it illegally retaliated against her for political speech , but an attorney who filed the initial lawsuit says it's more than that. >> she has now turned around in a typical frivolous lawsuit meant to intimidate the school and sue the school because they are trying to contain her attack on jewish students. jedediah: many jewish students took issue with the professor sharing this photo of a poster on an official university facebook page. it says zionism equals racism, silence equals death. >> and hillary clinton is reminding people to vote for democrats, because it's hot in greenland. tweeting a massive heat wave has caused the greenland ice sheet to melt and that race not projected until 2070. we're in a climate emergency. vote accordingly. >> a danish climate scientist says there will be less melting
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isolater this week once it cools down. griff: take a look at the newest nfl hall of famers seven of the eight inducted to the hall of fame yesterday in ohio. some members like former new england patriot ty law emotional ly thanked those who helped him succeed. >> i would not be here without my grandparents. i hope that you guys know how i feel. i love you. pete: the ceremony paid special tribute to denver broncos owner who passed away in june and his family gathered on stage to hug around his bronze statue and those are your headlines. >> well we're moving on with a fox news alert two deadly shootings in less than 24 hours nine victims killed in dayton, ohio and we're live there with an update, coming up next. this is the couple who wanted to get away
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this past week you saw a lot of talk about health care the biggest topic at the front end of both nights, and fighting amongst themselves about what is enough coverage, should you keep your private plan, but what they agreed on is that the evil republicans and the trump adminitration of course would try to takeaway your healthcare. here is a portion of what has been said 2020 democrats accusing the gop. >> the person enjoying this debate most right now is donald trump as we pit democrats against each other while he is working right now. >> [applause] >> to takeaway america's healthcare. >> let's be clear about this. we are the democrats. we are not about trying to takeaway healthcare from anyone. that's what the republicans are trying to do. >> [applause] jedediah: if you look at a fox news poll back from april talking about the most important issues facing the country, 21% said immigration, 10% said the economy, 9% said healthcare, 6% climate change and 5% race relations, so healthcare is right up there and this has been an issue that i've held
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republicans feet to the fire on for a long time because after hillary they should have come out and had a strong plan. now it's an opportunity for president trump to rollout potentially a new health plan, this is a headline from the wall street journal white house way of september rollout of the health plan and the question is what will be in it? there's a lot of talk that it's free market based that it involves things like covering people with pre-existing conditions, potentially the sale of insurance across state lines expanding hsa's and i would just urge the administration to be specific, and to promote free market alternatives because you're out there facing up against democrats saying guess what your private insurance and your choice, we're going to remove that a lot of democrats. there are a few here and there that want a choice in the system like what's his name, the moderate? pete: they say they want to. griff: but in contrast you're talking about it you mentioned the keywords there, "free market ", which is with the white house, will be intended to bring the costs down, we learned from
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associated press report last week that nine out of 10 americans are covered. they have insurance. they just are paying too much, but yet on that debate stage it was dominated by the warren and sanders who said what we're going to do is takeaway your private insurance and give you a government entirely planned versus -- pete: you can run against that for re-election and then also talk about how it's really competition that leads to cost containment, stay tuned for the white house releasing a plan on that. we'll see what it says. >> well yesterday, i teamed up with navy seals to attempt to swim across the hudson river but the race didn't end there. we'll take you across the finish line, coming up, next. do you have concerns about mild memory loss related to aging? prevagen is the number one pharmacist-recommended memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.
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jedediah: and the navy seals teamed up to swim across the hudson river in new york city to show no veteran gets left behind griff: and our own army veteran pete hegseth joined them. pete: bill brown is the navy seal who organized the event absolutely with gi go fund and along with him are three seals who swam with us, matt mccabe, ken bigby, and kaj larson. what an amazing event. first of all share with our audience what the event was all about. >> the event is about raising awareness and funds so we can help end homelessness for veterans in new york city to bring our country together, and we are a great country, we are great people and every once in a while things happen, we all come together and that's who we really are and that's what this event was about. pete: boy we need a message like that on a day liked to.
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i'll get to all three of you as well as especially on some actions, my man took for me. >> [laughter] pete: in the water but first we'll show you a video of how it all went down yesterday. watch. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ jedediah: pete tell us what you're going to do. pete: half the people say you're going to do great. half the people say well do you even know how to swim? is this even possible? griff: pete is going to undertake the challenge of swimming in the hudson river for a good cause. pete: across the hudson river with about 30 navy seals. griff: pete is on his way now. jedediah: [laughter] jedediah: we have navy seals getting ready for their swim across the hudson river. this whole thing is about honoring our fellow seals and
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about raising money to help veterans. >> the thing about never leaving a person behind so by doing this -- >> don't leave me behind today. now it's time to jump in the water. >> history is being made here today they are starting at liberty state park in jersey city swimming near the statue of liberty and going to ellis island and making the really long swim across the hudson to battery park which is in lower manhattan. griff: it's a long ways to go for just the first leg. >> do you see the guy with the cap on? jedediah: the white cap. griff: that's pete. jedediah: right in the middle there. go, pete! >> much respect to the navy seals. that's all that i have to say. >> you did such a good job. there was a little bit of a struggle by the statue of liberty there. what was happening? pete: they say for purposes of time i got towed a little bit of the way. i think it was mercy. this man here he said grab my shorts and let me swim, and i
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just grabbed them. >> it's all about teamwork right? pete: do i have it in me to finish it like based on what you saw firsthand? >> well my good army friend there is the reason that we're the premier maritime force in the world. >> let's do it! >> how are you feeling after leg two? pete: better. lost all my confidence in leg one, but with the current and the guys i'm swimming with, this one was doable and the back drop you're staring at the statue of liberty. my man was saying how do you feel between a scale of america to zero and i'd say it's america today. >> all america. pete: we got seals going in right now for the third leg. griff: here we go! i love it. jedediah: [laughter] griff: he's showing off. >> ♪ ♪
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griff: he did it! pete: it feels amazing. what an honor. came out of the water and grabbed the flag and we're going to be running to ground zero. what these men have given and how much they continue to give, god bless america. >> [applause] >> [cheers and applause] jedediah: wow, you know, i thought pete did great. he did all three legs we weren't sure if he would be able to do that but what happened in that part where he got towed for a little while there? [laughter] >> look, sometimes you've got to use a little technology when you're in the middle of a fight. >> [laughter] griff: i'm telling you it was like super human. i bet you would have done the same thing. i'm stuck in the current i haven't moved for 20-25 minutes and i'm not moving and at the moment i'm wondering what in the world do i do and that's what he
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said. "grab on to the back of my trunks" i'm going to swim and he starts swimming. super hero stuff and i was trying to kick like i felt i should really be contributing here and i had nothing let left in the tank but it's amazing and impressive stuff what you guys do and you showed it off yesterday. >> that's funny that's what i was thinking too, is pete kicking back there or what? what's going on here. no, you were outstanding, outstanding. it was really impressive to see you. part of the reason we did this is because we challenged ourselves yesterday, all of us, all of us up on the stage we challenge ourselves because we know that when veterans come home and transition that can be a challenge. pete: big time. >> so it was really important for us to do a physical event to help raise money to help these guys to help our fellow veterans griff: you talk about a challenge you guys trained for this. pete didn't train for this. we're so proud of him that he stood up for this and had the courage, not only did he get the first leg but all three legs.
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what does it say about what he was wanting to do with you guys? >> i think that's the epit om e of courage right there, to jump in with a bunch of guys who do this professionally for a living and be willing to get in the fight with us, and i think we all do it for the same reasons, because we believe that we all served our country, but we can continue to serve now out of uniform now that we're back home pete: kenny your thoughts jumping in the water that entire time? >> you know, visualize for a moment the 300 spartans, the few that went out, the few that went out that inspired a nation, to come together to overcome adversity within, and without, we were the 34 spartans, you included my friend. pete: thank you for including me that's kind of you. >> my man. pete: likewise. what a great cause, great group of guys it's a brotherhood of that. >> absolutely it was an amazing cause. we couldn't be more proud and also supported including the gi
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go fund, and the new york port authority, new jersey port authority and nypd, fdny, it was an incredible event and we're so amazed at how it turned out. pete: i got to know a lot of those guys well because i was so far behind. it's like how boring is it to watch you guys swim this, but you guys, you are knocking out push ups and pull ups i tried to do a few at each stop but these guys are doing 20 pullups and 100 pushups, truly the best of the best. thanks for letting fox & friends tag along. gigo.org is your website. thank you so much for your service and for sharing time with us this morning. take care, guys. more fox & friends moments away. hmph... (food grunting menacingly) when the food you love doesn't love you back, stay smooth and fight heartburn fast with tums smoothies. ♪ tum tum-tum tum tums
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pete: especially on this day, america go pray for those folks, have a great sunday. maria: good morning, the search is on for answers after two deadly mass shootings in the united states, in less than 24 hours. good sunday morning everyone thanks for joining us i'm maria bartiromo. reaction this morning, pouring in as the nation mourns those lost in texas and ohio. it all began yesterday around noontime, eastern time, in el paso, texas, where a gunman opened fire on shoppers at a walmart, killing 20 people, injuring 26 others. just 13 hours later and 1,600 miles away in dayton, ohio , a suspect wearing body armor, began shooting outside of a bar, killing nine people, even as police responded in less than a minute, shooting

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