have exposure to china. industrial, financial. they were the leaders on the last side today. >> neil: they will need the federal reserve to save their bacon. q very much. >> high i'm greg with john rich, dana perino. ♪ >> greg: the urge after a public mass shooting is to do something. but whatever the something is, it will be the wrong thing for somebody. create a database, get court orders based on testimony, address mental health. that will upset the libertarian libertarians. you can reduce gun free zones, have more good guys with guns. you can and ask more gun

control. that will take off conservative conservatives. everyone will have a bone to pick. except, that's fair. you will never know if it works, because everything varies depending on who you ask. 170 since 1957. you may never know if preventive actions work. but rather than fuel the blame game, let's focus on the proble problem. all of it feeds the need which is empowered by the media as they push the blame on people to hate. society's goal, always to reduce violence, and we are pretty good at it. we have laws to prevent chaos, debate that solves problems. we have elections to prevent revolutions. that does all the heavy lifting. but there are always the tiniest of fractions that slip through. demented outsiders are small in number, but in a free society, where large vulnerable groups

congregate, they will always have an outside impact. it's just like terror, because it is terror. no wonder the media angers us through their amplification. you may lose some freedoms. we could make everything like the airport post 9/11. would it work? may be. we may never know if we don't try. or, even if we do. so, john, we talked to you when that horrible shooting in vegas took place. i just wanted to get your thoughts on what you think can be done. we talked about all of these things, but the facts are often so gloomy. most don't have criminal backgrounds. most have never been psychological stomach psychiatrically hospitalized. >> evil is very arrogant. in its very nature, it's arrogant. these two guys had posted about

it, had talked about it. even in one case, they even put a guy on a retreat. got him out of there for a minute. and then he comes back. it's kind of like to see something, say something. i think that if you see something, you got to say something and do something. you see somebody saying something terrible on a youtube page, click, it's that easy. and then you send it to anyone and everyone that could get a hold of this person. i do think that they should knock on their front door and say, "hey buddy. did you post this?" >> greg: i think it's hard these days to target the person with out targeting the person. you want to target the behavior, but you are in this minority report world, where you can't punish somebody until they do something. so what do you do? >> well, john mentioned how evil

is arrogant. but doing nothing right now is costing people not just their lives, but the country is now in a state of panic, in a state of anxiety. you can't go to a shopping center, you can't go into her purse place of worship. we need to do something other than just talk or give us the useless talking points of, as you mentioned gun safety laws. that should be a starter, only for one reason. we now have a consensus. the bill had bipartisan stomach bipartisan support. at least it demonstrates how lawmakers can do something. the law that lindsey graham put forward today. 15 states, 21 states are considering it.

someone speaking up, going to a local judge, and saying you know what, someone is saying something, doing something posting things that make me nervous. we can do something. >> greg: i think that's the way to go. i think you have to, jesse, you want to find the bad eggs. you don't want to punish the whole carton. >> jesse: i agree. in order to find a solution, you actually have to identify the specific problem. nobody's really doing that. today, the "los angeles times" said that we have studied every mass shooting since 1966. here's what we've learned about the shooters. the vast majority have experienced some sort of childhood trauma. molestation, neglect, something very serious. that manifest as depression or mental anxiety. and then there is a crisis

point. that's usually triggered by a rejection. and then you know what they do? the copycat phenomena comes around. they scroll of the internet and they look for other mass shooters and how they've acted. that's kind of the social contagion of that talked about. 80% of school shootings, the person gets the gun from a family member. >> greg: right. >> jesse: all are from an illegally purchased handgun. red flag laws. you have to be proactive. also, the media can't glamorize these people, because that's what they are looking for, because they have ruben rejected all their lives they have to identify these people and they have to provide help. lastly, most importantly, mental health counseling. they have to have mental health counseling, because that is the root count of, because of this.

>> we must reform our mental health laws to better identify mentally disturbed individuals who may commit acts of violence, and make sure those people not only get treatments, but when necessary, involuntary confinement. mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun. >> greg: we talked about this and other areas in terms of homelessness. we have lost the moral ability to deal with the mentally ill. we won't force them to get off the streets. we won't force them to get help for reasons that are considered a human right. >> dana: parents of shooters -- >> greg: don't get the help. >> dana: they are practically begging authorities to take them, but they can't. california is looking at

possibly changing that lot back, because there are some things. i do wonder about having to do these red flag laws. it's one thing to have, imagine having the courage to go in front of a judge and say, "hey, my cousin is --" in some ways you have to do it anonymously. have the ability to do it amount stomach anonymously. i'm a big proponent of giving them more resources. we are spending a lot of money on a lot of things. i think dod needs a lot of money. i am also protecting the country. a lot of that has to be from the fbi. they are protecting the white nationalist racism stuff. how do you use those tools that we already know how to use there. how do you use them without infringing on someone's first amendment rights. in your monologue, i thought you laid it out well.

nobody's saying don't do anything. at least the president has the ability to intervene. >> greg: i just think that if everybody is a bit upset by the results, that's probably the best you're going to get. >> let's not link mental illness to these mass killings, because the american psychological association. we have to be more vigilant. we have to step up our game in society to try to protect her children. they are very vulnerable. the young men who are committing these mass murderers, they are isolated, they feel marginalized. they are taking it out on society. >> dana: maybe something happened to them as a child? >> greg: where are the parents are these shooters? >> you can't solve every outlier or every outsider. they exist in every society. the problem is if they have access to weapons, that loaner,

has an outside impact. everyone can become a terrorist on their own dime. >> you are right about that. but as the mass shootings have risen, homicides have gone down. >> greg: coming up. >> do you think the president is racist? of course is racist. >> greg: democrats blame president trump for the deadly shootings. ♪ most people think a button is just a button. ♪ that a speaker is just a speaker. ♪ or - that the journey can't be the destination. most people haven't driven a lincoln.

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the media is once again rushing to play the blame game. 2020 democrats try to proclaim that president trump is responsible for what happened. >> we have a president of the united states who is particularly responsible. you reap what you sow, and he is sowing seeds of hatred. >> the only moderate democracy that sent any thing close this is the third. >> do you think the president is racist? of course, he is racist. >> there's no question that white nationalism is condoned at the highest level of our government. >> he's been emboldening white supremacist him his entire presidency. >> this outrageous attack on trump supporter's. speak of sort of rhetoric that ceos are funding with their support of donald trump, leaders of businesses are supporting

that sort of white supremacy. they are funding that man and his hate campaign that gives him atomic inspiration to white supremacists and white supremac supremacy. >> greg: that's just despicable. i want to talk about the shooter from dayton, ohio, because he's not a white supremacist and the media is not talking about that. this is one of his tweets. "i'm not waiting for the idiots to finally come around to understand it. he hated trump. he supported the squad. he promoted to gun control. he endorsed elizabeth warren. he's re-tweeting antifa. to say that donald trump inspired back is just a lie. >> what you are seeing is, he's your guy. he's anti-immigrant. they go, well, that guides your guy. he's pro liz warren. the problem with scarborough,

who is. he saying that trumps language about immigration. meanwhile, the drumbeat that half the country is racist or half the country is a white supremacist, because they support trump. you could argue that that is so fundamentally more dramatically inciting than anything you could come up with when you label half the country as white supremacists. do you think you are adding or subtracting from the problem? scarborough is the problem. he is the one who's demonizing people. trump condemns white supremacy. whenever he is asked. >> you know what he said? he said white supremacist hate donald trump, because he's not one of them. also, i want to point out the ideology of the shooter in el paso, texas.

we are not getting the full story there from the media, no surprise paired yes, he hated migrants. he was a segregationist, racial purist. but also, he was an environmental extremist. he used the exact same talking points from radical environmental extremists, talking about the earth is being polluted. corporations are to blame. we need to depopulate the world. that was also a motivating factor in the attack. at the end of the thing, he said this. all of my ideologies predated donald trump. i've had these ideologies for years. this had nothing to do with donald trump, yet the media directly links them. >> dana: i think we talked about it last week, talked about domestic terrorism links to white nationalism. if you take people who died in america on 9/11.

the fbi, since 20, 2004 said, our biggest concern in america is this evil ideology that's coming. >> greg: i keep wondering though, where is the organization. it's just as bad as terrorism. i agree. but there's no isis. there's no armies. i think we have to be clear. i want to know who these people are then. expose who they are. i want to see them. >> i agree. we need to route it out. we need to find the source. we need to understand that this is a growing threat to our homeland. this is donald trump 2018 report. the counterterrorism report put out by the department of homeland security. we have to pay attention to these homegrown threats. look, i don't care about media personalities. i don't care about the media. this is impacting communities across the country. when you see babies dying, a woman protecting her baby. we are sitting here thinking

about what someone else the same? now, we need to find ways to prevent this from happening, because this is a homegrown problem. and if we don't face it, then it is going to weaken us. >> i would just see tens of millions of americans. thus the most nasty, divisive, evil thing that you can do to americans in general. it would be like saying that the guy that. that guy was a psycho. he went out there with a gun and started shooting everybody. so are these guys. that's why it's on all of us. like i said, you've got to find these guys and pick them up before they can pick that gun up and do damage. >> he was sentenced to 80 years. he targeted democrats. i was one of those democrats. none of us liked that.

none of us want to be the targets of some deranged inter-visual who believes just because you disagree with me, you want to take me out. >> there is a terrible narrative around it. >> greg: the partisan thing, i blow the horn at the five. what makes this show different, is that we always try to elevate. i'm on the side. i'm on that side. we are probably the only show that doesn't do that. our a block is about practical solutions, right? that's the first thing we did. we don't want to smear anybody. once you start smearing, then you have the ping-pong, it never ends. >> we can say in the same sentence that yes. white supremacy violence is a huge problem in america. it is on the rise. but also, donald trump is not a white supremacist and is not responsible for that. two ideas. it doesn't have to be a problem.

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targeted by killers like that. i mean, imagine if americans who were in a crowd in a poor country, and some crazy person shot them up. we'd react a lot more strongly than mexico. >> greg: you don't have to imagine it. more americans are killed and mexico than anywhere. mexico should be a little bit careful, because we could do a lot of sowing of our own. >> jesse: it's more of a hate crime type of thing. >> greg: bystanders. before or taken hostage. you are taken hostage, and they try to get money for it. >> like jesse said, they've got to do something. they are going to cook him, as they should. >> dana: apparently, donna, he is cooperating.

they arrested him without incident. he's given them more than yes-or-no answers. >> i can understand the frustration and also the disappointment of mexican officials. they are also saying that they may sue the gun manufacturer. they are looking for a way to address this without condemning the united states. that's the frustration here. but i sympathize with all of the families and those who are mourning their loved ones. >> dana: it was a big back to school weekend. i love, i used to love shopping for school supplies. it's such a happy and hold dumb occult full-time, and it's turned into such a nightmare >> jesse: calls for national

unity. and then they fund-raiser off of the mass shootings. this country is so divided, and the media creates so much division. i hope that right now, at least we can do something that can address the problem. if this gun was bought legally, i don't know what you would do? how my going to protect myself from the next mask shooter? our military, our law enforcement. >> jesse: there are a lot of country in rural america who use it for sports. those guns are perfectly legal. >> do you know what semiautomatic means? when you pull the trigger, it shoots. 1-2-3. that's a semiautomatic rifle. >> dana: i actually don't know know.

to spray that many bullets all at once. >> even beyond the weapons themselves, i do know a little bit about this, growing up in the south. i grew up in a home with weapons. the president has to lower his rhetoric. he has to understand that the american people are tired to listening to the word invaders or invasion. that's why democrats are screaming to the president. >> this was not inspired by the president's rhetoric. >> because the president has gone to rallies and side, and you've heard him, you've covered it. you've heard him say the word invasion, invaders. >> why are you linking that rhetoric when there is no linkage? >> there is a linkage between words and action. >> did i just not read the

manifesto? it has nothing to do with donald trump. >> dana: did you want to have the last word? >> greg: i can't think of anything calling someone a racist who isn't. calling someone a racist or a white supremacist, that would blank off a lot of people. just so that they can get some traction in the media. >> that's what they called themselves. >> greg: trump has never called -- >> i'm not talking about trump. i'm saying that that's what those people are -- 's we want let's focus on those people and not on the president president*. he's denounced white supremacists a number of times. >> he's also called himself a

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could get that in the latter part of the year. i think that we could probably get court decisions by the end of october, maybe shortly thereafter. we will have hearings in september and october. not to dependent on court proceedings. >> it looks like jerry nadler has laid out a timetable, sometime this fall. i'm really surprised that the numbers are that low right now, given all the talk on the presidential trail. but there's no question that this fall, you are going to see the house democrats and impeachment trial. >> i say who cares. it goes nowhere. i don't think it matters at all. go ahead. do it. it's going to hurt your party and help the president. there was no collusion. i mean, what are you so worked up about? you framed trump, he caught you. now it just looks like the

special counsel investigation was to cover up the frame job. there was no crime, and everybody can see that. the mueller stunt failed. now they are just flailing around, trying to make something else work. nothing has worked so far. they are going. >> what you think customer >> i think it's a bad move, because if i was a democrat, i would not do that. we all know that a lot of moderate democrats voted for trump throughout the midwest. they got their jobs back and they are making more money. their taxes are lower. they are going, we would like to see that continue. i think it's going to backfire on them. >> if they come forward and testify and lower the temperature and give the committee what they need that this will go away? >> dana: i mean, go away, like impeachment would never happen. i have had, we've all had people

whispering in our ear that the evidence is coming. the evidence is coming. we are almost one year away from a presidential election. there is no evidence so far. the reason these numbers are going up, house republicans are wanting to take back the house. they've got an uphill climb, but one of the things they are doing is they are taking the 31 districts where trump won the house district. and then the democrats wanted in 2018. the democrats are trying to push back so that they can run against them and hopefully get their seats back. that's their plan. the thing that nancy pelosi is trying to protect those people. >> greg, everything is on the show, shoulders of barrel how. will be given to the house judiciary committee. >> greg: this is like me

writing a love poem and sending it to halle berry. nothing's going to happen. it's going nowhere. >> dana: , john could turn it into a song. >> greg: but doesn't reduce the temperature of the country, hardly. >> my problem is that most people think that if we impeach donald trump, we will remove him from office. unfortunately that won't happen. i do believe that the judiciary committee should conduct an inquiry. but the truth is that we need to find another way to get rid of donald trump. >> greg: i think that's why you guys are scared. that's why you are going for the impeachment, because you don't think he can beat him. >> up next, the video everybody's talking about from the democratic socialists. not the democratic party. >> greg: can you tell the difference? >> if it was the democratic

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>> a socialism convention this weekend done it go exactly as planned. the self-proclaimed comrades got together to defeat capitalists. but that event descended. >> personal privilege. guys, first of all, james jackson from sacramento. i just want to say, can we please keep the chatter to a minimum? i'm one of the people that's very, very prone to sensory overload. it's making it very difficult for me to focus. >> personal privilege. please do not use gendered language to address everyone. >> greg: wow. do know what that guy needs? he needs a double shot. i disagree with how you start this. that went exactly as planned.

thank god. what great comic relief. we needed this segment. i salute them without gendered language. the wavy arms, the stuttering beta male. >> you've got to get out more. you've got to go to a libertarian convention. there are 32 national parties. all of these conventions are interesting, because they bring americans from different points of view together. stay one that's one point of view. >> guess what, i will never attend one. >> jesse: i don't think that was an actual socialist. i think that was a conservative comedian pretending to be a snowflake socialists. there is no way that could have been real. >> that was a set up. >> greg: point of personal privilege. that is real. >> dana: the one thing,

though, i will probably never be able to understand it. i do think there's something that these guys are doing right. they have more people identifying with them. maybe not after they watch that clip, but there's something happening on the grass roots perspective. i wouldn't count them out. >> jesse: now that i think about it, you have sensory overload problems. >> greg: you are a socialist. >> i have sensory overload. >> over the weekend. >> we should send people to mardi gras. how about that. these people do not know how to have fun. could you imagine working with somebody like that in your office? i don't think they actually have real lives, because none of that stuff at work.

>> work from home. >> we are moving towards a society where people are looking to identify people without using gender pronouns. >> can't we just assume someone's identity? >> dana: a debate between president trump and whoever the democratic nominee is. i could rewind that 20 times. >> that's who we are. >> greg: that's a dumb idea. we aren't talking about different people. we're just talking about a dumb idea. that's just a dumb idea. socialism kills people. it kills more people -- >> dana: gender pronouns. >> this is not the party of thomas jefferson.

i can tell. >> why did they think that's cool? they know that we are all going to hear that. >> why not? see when he put the rad in comrade. >> dana: bernie sanders is not the nominee. will they actually vote for a democrat in the election? >> i don't know. i think the green party has much more of an influence. the green party in 2016 against hillary clinton. i'm more afraid of the green party in terms of their ability to disrupt the democratic party. >> greg: you should be afraid of the republican party. >> no i'm not. you guys are basically doing yourselves in. if i can explain that you and 30 seconds. i don't know. i don't know if joel stein will

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♪ >> greg: time for one more thing. john rich has a big surprise. >> john: first of all, october s the first made in america convention. the first ever and are contrary. >> dana: where? >> john: indianapolis, indiana. big and rich is doing a concert. it will be great. >> dana: can we go? >> john: i would love you there. we wrote this song, it has

become a national sensation and everywhere i go they ask if i will sing it and we donated 100% of all the downloads to the folds of honor and i am presenting a check alongside of me and the five, over $50,000. you have to commemorate it because it was number one on the sales chart. i had these guitars made and each one of you are getting wide. >> dana: no way! >> john: bring them out. >> dana: are you serious? >> john: everyone gets one. >> dana: my dream come true. you know how to play. >> donna: i want you to autograph mine. i want to be elvis when i grow up. >> john: i want to also say the song is still able to be downloaded. it's $0.99. we should have another wave of

downloads. >> dana: i love it. do you get asked to play this at your concert? >> john: they go shut up, i say you shut up. >> dana: i can't believe we got a guitar. i had no idea. >> donna: i will spend all night playing. >> greg: thank you very much. >> greg: a giant fish. do you have gifts for us? >> jesse: not today. my presence is a gift. it's national work like a dog day and in commemoration of that i got a replica of the rookie. look at this guy right here. a great company makes personalized gifts for everybody and they do a great job. i got you something. i didn't get everyone a gift, only day now. >> greg: that sexist.

>> jesse: i got jasper. >> dana: did they get the ear right? fantastic! >> jesse: over the weekend i was at the alabama bankers convention in alabama where i spoke to a bunch of patriots. >> greg: how did it go? >> jesse: i dazzle them with my anecdotes. i mention some things that greg says over the commercial break, that was the least -- there we are. roll tide for everybody down there. i'm also on hannity tonight, 9:00 p.m. eastern. check me out there. >> dana: we will. >> greg: they told me to stop playing. >> dana: it's my turn. i want to talk to you about this girl, from newcastle wyoming and she just competed in the 65th annual rodeo and not only did she compete, she won the junior girls all around a vision. she has a 6-year-old horse, she

did go tying and she rode her grandma's horse. she is amazing. i donated the saddle, they are amazing. let's hear from them really quick. >> hi, this is my horse. thank you for donating my junior girls at all. we are really excited to have it. >> dana: you are welcome! congratulations. congratulations to my little cousin. >> greg: let's go to some real news. ♪ "animals are great." check out this little soccer. talk about the happiest cat alive, may be a kitten. totally asleep. it's face pressed against the window. it has no idea what is going on and then it gets waking up. you never wake up a sleeping kitten. that is wrong. look at that face. that is why animals are great.

[laughter] >> jesse: you've had better ones. >> greg: donna? speak six there is a special young boy named blake and he has down in georgia and his mom is a custom t-shirt designer and she said, what do you want to wear to your first day of class? he said i want to wear a t-shirt that i will be your friend. his mother made it and he wanted to do this to stop bullying in school to let other kids know he will be their friend. what a great young man. as a result of this story, his mom has made over 6,000 likes on facebook and people are talking about this short because, i want to be your friend. >> greg: i would be able to wear that shirt. >> dana: ? >> greg: i will wear, i don't want to be your friend.

[laughter] >> donna: this is the dog. "special report" is up next. i am shannon bream and breaking tonight president trump is calling the shooting, barbaric crimes against all humanity. he wants to address what he calls the glorification of violence in american culture. he says hatred pulled the trigger, not the gun. pro-gun-control forces are condemning the president for not encouraging stronger action and some of his political opponents by directly blaming him for the attacks. meanwhile in el paso and dayton the search goes on for answers about why all of this happened. we have fox team coverage. jack holl in el paso, texas, where another victim died they are today, raising the total