>> in this business there .-dot not talking to the police about this themselves. >> they absolutely believe they will get away with it. >> watch season three of the firm and diaries all part of american justice month on fox nation. >> that was a preview of the firm and diaries. he gives us an in-depth look of the biggest scandals and crimes of our time and uncover hidden truths that are riddled the station for decades. mark furman joins me right now. thank you for taking the time. we appreciate it my pleasure. thank you.

>> what infamous cases can we expect out of this upcoming season. >> i think the standout is obviously the boston marathon case which i really don't think we've discussed it enough nor do we understand it enough. there was an arsonist in los angeles that very few people had heard of and his name is john orr, 2000 fires and he was an arson investigator in the most prolific arsonist in america's history and of course jody, a case that we were fascinated to watch but i don't think we truly understand just how complex it was all of her attempts to try to cover her crime actually exposed her in a premeditated homicide. tupac shakur shook her an notorious big complicated cases and everyone thinks they are gang-related but in actuality tupac shakur and notorious big, another one where gang members

but were responsible for the homicides they are no doubt and i'm not sure they will ever be salt. abby: i want to mention the boston bombing which you brought up. you examine whether or not those could have been prevented. do you believe they could have been? >> absolutely, 110%. post- 911 we have a wake-up call. when a country, a very sophisticated country, although an adversary by the name of russia hands us the names of terrorists and we fail to actually expose and do everything we can to make sure they don't act upon their ideology is not only a mistake but a tragedy in the boston marathon was exactly that. there was not just one opportunity but there were two opportunities in the failure for

the federal government to involve the boston police which knows their city and which stays in their city their whole career and don't move around like federal agents do and not letting them know the names of the possible terrorists, absolutely it could have been prevented. abby: i love about your series is that we learn things that he did not know about these cases. i'm curious with the jody's case that has been one that's been talked about for such a long time and what can we learn and why is this case so popular? >> well, cody was somebody that obviously flamboyant, sexual and a little crazy if not a lot crazy but the jody arias case what you can learn is how a criminal that is quite possibly criminally insane actually thinks there camouflaging their

case when in actuality they are making it more obvious that they're committing a premeditated homicide and allowing you to actually see the process right in front of you. jody arias did not see this. an example is she uses a 25 caliber automatic pistol to shoot her victim once. travis alexander. days prior her grandparents had a theft of their home where a 25 caliber automatic pistol was taken. i don't know how much more obvious a suspect can't make it but to her it made sense. i think this is the interesting part about this case and gives the viewer a little insight when they watch cases and read about cases the questions they should ask and the things they should actually see that are the most important and obvious standouts when you read a case. abby: season one and two both

were incredible. mark. one of my favorite on fox nation. thank you for taking the time to look aboard to your next. catch brand-new episodes of the firm and diaries starting tomorrow august 12. i know what you are thinking. why fox nation? it's simple. fox news brings you the headlines you need. we go in-depth bringing more of the stories you want and propelling the shows that you will love like this - >> were talking predatory types of people. >> former fbi agent goes inside the mind of killers. >> i have to go interview the bad guys, the murderers. >> i used finite. >> unlike anything you have ever seen.

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planet was suddenly gone. the blonde bombshell, sex symbol like no other, the film goddess was dead at 36. news that would take hollywood and beyond like a super quick. abby: sneak peek of the scandalous, the death of marilyn monroe. find the glitz and glamour of what seemed like a hollywood very well with addiction, abuse and wild the condition of ireland's desperate here to tell us more about producer of the film, good night marilyn and podcast host, nina. mina, thank you for [inaudible] >> fight on. glad to be here, abby. abby: you're an expert in this case and it riddled with questions even to this day. can you take me for what happened in those final 24 hours before marilyn monroe was found. >> when you look at the history and some of the agendas of the conspiracies out there it's hard to get to the truth of those last 24 hours but she was in a quiet space and eight moody

space and when you hear a lot of the times people will say she was in a great mood and she was in a really sad mood but in reality she had a mental disorder which, today would either be manic-depressive of bipolar and borderline personality which was heavily depressive. in those moods she could have been happy and sad and moody all in one day. abby: official report, correct me if i'm wrong was suicide, correct? if that's the probable - probable suicide. >> if that is the case and have this disorder what initially made people suspicious about her death? >> there's a lot. i think there's a vortex of a lot of different things going on at one time but just the notion of probable suicide in talking to the doctor which was a renowned forensic pathologist he said in the 20000 autopsies he

has done he's never seen probable suicide. there's basically five boxes you check and probable is not one of them. it lends itself to those conspiracy theories which does not necessarily mean you're getting at the truth but putting a lot of hot air out there and not able to back it up. getting to the truth after 57 years is not an easy challenge. i'm glad to see you guys are trying to do and debunk these conspiracy theories. abby: we want to know the answer which sometimes we don't actually get. i will put you on the spot but what do you think really happened? >> i am now leaning toward that she overdosed and potentially committed suicide but it was more instantaneous given her condition and there is a lot of evidence that supports that. i have changed my thinking and

that is not an easy thing to do. especially with marilyn's fans because they're so divided. just like politics, they are so divided when you look at what happened to her. abby: thank you so much, nina. let's take out another exclusive clip from the scandalous, the death of marilyn monroe right now. >> photographs from the scene would be the first clues to maryland's cause of death. but also give ammunition to those who would later accused the investigation of being rushed and incomplete. >> police officer goes right up to the door and you see the broken window and the cop is putting his finger along the edge of that window. >> they saw the crumpled bedsheets piled up on the floor and empty pill bottles clustered together on a cramped table next to the fed. in the background eunice murray, a woman came to be known as marilyn's housekeeper. her vague and constantly changing account of the previous 24 hours would raise eyebrows for decades to come.

abby: you can watch scandalous, death of marilyn monroe right here on the fox news channel sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. then go to your vaccination app to see an exclusive director's cut that answers many of the questions that still remain. if you are really interested in the scandalous, you want to watch their other series of weight vigilante. take a look. ♪ >> back then in 1984, crime in new york city was awful. >> they surrounded him on the subway. >> when someone physically is trying to hurt you all you can think of that moment is to stop them. >> shot by admitted gunmen. >> he was romanticized to some degree. he thought this was the beginning of a movement in new york. that is when public opinion turned against him.

>> i think that there should be more of this. abby: that was scandalous, the some weight vigilante. controversial story about the man behind the 1984 subway shooting in new york city that sparked a nationwide to be on race, crime and self-defense. joining me now a man who covered this intense case, fox news anchor and senior correspondent eric shawn thank you for taking the time. >> abby, great to see a. abby: this was a huge deal back in 1984. those who don't know the details can you give us a little bit of background? >> he was the so-called new york city gunmen. riding the train on december 22, 1984 went for black teenagers approached him.

one of them asked him for $5 and that is when bernard took out a 38 and shot all four of them. it was a time in new york city, you got to understand the time, during the middle of the crack epidemic, crime would seem to be out of control so bernhard was seen as the some weight vigilante who is taking the law and avenging against the criminals and trying to help the culture but others thought he was a racist white man who had no business carrying a gun. illegally on the streets of new york but because he shot into the dark of the tunnels of the night that's a death wish figure he captured the spirit of the city and then surrendered in new hampshire and gave this stirring, multihour compassion take talking about crime and the decay of society and problems of society and it was a case of captured the imagination in people's feelings at the time because you really felt like we were a city under siege and bombarded by the criminal element.

abby: you are the first one to interview him after this incident. how did that come to be and what did you ask him? >> yeah, he gave up in new hampshire and we came back to new york city he was on 14th street. i remember going by his house and they like 100 reporters in front of the building on 14th street off six avenue and i thought here's a guy who's a scaredy-cat. he honestly had to carry a gun and will he walk out into this mob of reporters so as a reporter you case the joint we went around the back and there was a door in the back on 15th street and someone was coming out and i member asked the neighbor do you know bernard and he said yeah, he said does he ever uses back interest in the guy says he never goes out the front. i waited with my cameraman for eight hours and it's called a stakeout. on the street and sure enough about 5:00 o'clock in the afternoon the door opened and out pops a bernhard. we get the key cameras and get rolling and he was scared but he

started doing this. did not know which way to go. i said bernard, eric shawn and i want to interview you. he just froze and literally got that literally got down on my knees and said we've been waiting here for eight hours and that broke the ice and he did an interview with me which end up on the front page of all the newspapers in which among other things he said talked about crime and why he did it in the problems of crime in the city and then he did feel sorry for the victims moms but he felt the young man in his view should not have been in a place because he felt they were liking him. >> such an interesting story told by an incredible source who was close to him in 1984 being able to interview him. eric, thank you. >> thank you, abby. abby: check out scandalous, sneak peaks are coming up after

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produced by different victims we noticed there were different information where there was no one or two that were exactly the same with this guy could've been a caucasian or hispanic or 5'8" or 6'2" no one knew for sure. >> they were just trying to follow every lead and not to miss anything. abby: welcome back to fox nation's american justice. thank you for joining us. we gave you the first look at the new show coming to fox nation this month following the investigation into one of the world's most twisted and feared serial killers, richard ramirez. i know how this infamous murderer became known as the night stalker and left the new york county people too scared to leave their doors and i could alan, thank you for taking the time and we appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. abby: can you give me background into richard ramirez? who was he and how did he eventually become dubbed the

night stalker. >> it was the media who dubbed him the night stalker. he was this drifter who had come from arizona and had moved into la and he was involved in hate crimes early on and eventually he started driving freeways and turn off into suburban neighborhoods and climbing into open windows or unlocked doors of homes and attack people in their homes often killing them and raping and doing terrible things. abby: that is absolutely terrifying and the story rocked the entire country but when you talk about california and arizona and the west coast in general not knowing what the skype would do next, what was the mood like back then? >> sense of unease early on. moving into a sense of terror. the police did not really know his motives and did not know when he would strike next. he would go into neighborhoods where people felt safe. people had their windows unlocked and doors wide open and

then neighborhood i grew up and we left our doors on tonight but suddenly this man who was faceless, i had a detective friend who described him as a ghost would climb to people's windows and get into their rooms before they knew he was there. then shoot them in their sleep and attack them before they knew he was in the house. it was a real sense of fear. my father, 82nd airborne, tough guy and after richard ramirez attacked in mission viejo my dad came home with broomsticks in the back of his car and went to the garage and started sign them into smaller pieces and went and put them into the window wells and into the sliding glass door while. once my dad was terrified i was terrified. i was 15 at the time and i lived in the house ranch within a quarter of a mile of the five freeway, four oh five freeway the kind of place he would attack. i remember being sure he would come into my home at night while

i was sleeping in kill me. abby: what were his motivations? >> i think they did not know at all early on. there was a suggestion that he tended to attack were yellow and colored houses and attack asian people so there was a suggestion first that maybe he was attacking asians in yellow homes and the theory there was golden homes and rob the places as well to fuel his spree. it did not hold and so i think they started to run with the idea that he was motivated by satanism and there's a famous story that he listened to ac/dc highway to hell as he drove the freeways and if you look at the lyrics it fits up with what was going on so that is when they started to focus on that motive for the killings. abby: you ruined that song for me. thank you, alan. [laughter]

how was he eventually captured? >> everyone look for that night stalker. he went down to a liquor store in east la not from where it the bus station was to get to buy something to drink and in that store the woman behind the counter recognized him. supposedly he heard her saying stalker in spanish and took off realizing they were on to him and try to carjack a car from a pregnant woman and it was her boyfriend or husband saw what was happening and grabbed the night stalker and then beating beat him with a pipe until people in east la attacked him and understand beat him terribly until the cops showed up and got him out of the mob. the cops really saved his life. abby: a truly terrifying and chilling story especially for someone who lived through. thank you for your insight on this subject. >> thank you for having me. abby: we want to show you a sneak peek of where the night stalker. check it out. >> it was evidence found at

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>> live from america's news headquarters. an autopsy on the body of wealthy financier, jeffrey epstein, is now complete. results are not being released just yet. new york's chief medical examiner says result will be released pending other ongoing investigations. epstein was found unresponsive in his manhattan deal sale saturday morning. dead of an apparent suicide. he was facing trial for allegedly treating a sex trafficking ring involving underage girls.

authorities in tennessee have captured escape inmate, curtis ray watson, after his five days on the run. officials say wasn't sexually assaulted and killed a 64 -year-old female prison administrator who lived on the prison grounds and got away on a tractor. this is happening wednesday morning when curtis had been released on his daily work detail. i'm aisha and now back to vaccinations american justice. >> l chabot was the most hunted man in mexico, a vicious drug lord whose reach had plagued american cities thousands of miles away. >> i believe it was never about the money but about the power. >> with the chicago pd finally had enough. >> they put a bounty on my head and made it personal for me. i guarantee you he wishes arrival had put a bullet in his head. >> shocking story of the catch

of el chapo. abby: exclusive look at catching el chapo. a behind-the-scenes look at the hunt that lasted over three decades in the shocking story of what brought down infamous head of the cartel for good. your to give us more details about this is former dea agent, jack riley. jack, thank you for taking the time. >> my pleasure. abby: you were close to this case for three decades. to put that into perspective that is a very long time to be following one guy because of the complexity of what he was doing between mexico and the united states. what do you see as the most taxing thing that happened from these cartels can. >> i think if you look at the way they've organized themselves over the last 20 years when we first heard of el chapo in the late '80s, early '90s he was a shadowy character and no one had a handle on the cartels themselves. we were entrenched in a battle in columbia against separate cartels and the mexican cartels and not taking shape until el chapo and a number of others got

involved and began to see the business opportunities as they moved dope across the u.s. border. of course, later on when the most troubling things i thought was el chapo ability to see the u.s. market change and to flood the market with heroine. he saw the prescription drug issue in this country reach addiction heights he knew sooner or later that the supply of prescription drugs would be negated so what did he do? he flooded this country with cheap, high-protein heroin which is an opiate -based drug, a national progression for people who find themselves addicted to pills. abby: in your experience what was your main focus in trying to take him down? >> we knew to do damage in terms of the organization itself. we had to go after him. he was so well entrenched in terms of corruption and in virtually every corner of the mexican government.

it took a heroic effort. amongst hundreds of dea agents, policemen and other agencies, prosecutors and our mexican counterparts to put it together and commit ourselves to get this guy locked up to extradite him and face trial here in the united states. i'm so proud to have been a small part. abby: definitely. what you did was incredible and sounds like when you say he was entrenched in the mexican government did he pretty much run all of mexico? >> you know, it's unbelievable when you look at the extent of his organization and reach. his wealth and ability to corrupt at every level from the state, federal, military and even on up into the political presidential apparatus. when you look at it this guy stayed on topic and was able to survive several presidential transitions. that's unheard of in criminal organizations.

abby: in your opinion what you think is the most interesting part of the case? >> i think the international cooperation that was built over years and years of trial and error in the trust we built across the border but also that the mexican government understood just how important this guy was, not only to their society but the damage and death he was causing north of the border in our country. i think if you ask the merc and people one of the most significant things we compassed was to bring them to trial in the united states and for people the paid attention to it it opened the door to the american public about just how vicious and dollar thursday these people are. and they could care who dies in their way. i think that in and of itself is a story for the ages. abby: such an incredible story between how he had an effect over to huge countries and jack, thank you for taking the time to

talk about your involvement in this case. >> this is my pleasure. thank you for what you do. abby: fox nation american justice will be back with even more exclusive content right here after this. can my side be firm?

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>> after hearing about those babies in the lake, as far as i am concerned - >> there was abuse on top of neglect. >> nothing in that says kill your children. >> if you kill your own children it's automatic death penalty. >> all 12 jurors must agree susan smith shaddai for her crimes. >> we know she did. she was not in her right mind but is the question is does she deserve the death penalty be one in 1994 susan smith drowned her two young sons by letting her car roll into a lake with her sons trapped inside. go to the fox nation that led her to do the most of the cabal

act. joining me now, the prosecutor who put susan in prison. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. abby: this is quite the interesting story from 1994. a lot of ups and downs in the case and what did smith originally tell the police happen to? >> originally, the night she rolled them in the lake and she came and called law-enforcement and said she had been carjacked and they had taken her car and taking her children. abby: were authorities initially suspicious of that story or did they believe her at first? >> law enforcement has an obligation to at least believe you initially. if there is a carjackers they need to get to work on it and they did. but it just did not quite add up. law-enforcement man more of a dual investigation which they were putting the polos out and looking for the carjackers but at the same time trying to determine what else may have happened.

abby: she was really convincing at first. how did the community react when the story came out? >> obviously, there was outrage but people wanting to do something and wanting to help so there was an outpouring of people coming out searching and calls from all over the country and a vehicle that may match the description and people were doing everything they could to help which, of course, some days later when it was determined that susan had rolled them into the lake there was a tremendous sense of betrayal in the community. abby: when did things turn in the case? how did prosecutors get her to confess to doing this crime? >> things are starting to not add up and law-enforcement started pointing them out to her. things like the light where she said it happened there was nobody else around yet that light would not have been read for her and one of those pressure plate lights that would only be read if a car hit it in the other direction. the simple things as a reason

they call a carjackers a carjackers. the hierarchy of carjackers needs they look for a car and they may look for money and may even take the female from an assault standpoint but children are normally not something a stranger carjackers will take. that pushes it to a minimum of a domestic issue. i truly believe susan is selfishly killed the kids because she thought somehow that would help her out with the boyfriend who said he did not want kids. her wedding dress and wedding album were in the car when she rolled it down the ramp and basically everything to do with her marriage but her husband was in that car. i don't buy that it was a botched suicide attempt. unfortunately that was just not the case. she made a horrible, horrible decision into those boys life. abby: tommy, think of it we appreciate your time. as we dive into true crimes we can't forget about the kidnapping that would change america forever. during one tragic night the young son of famous aviator

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