seems more dangerous then the movie itself. >> you're right, doctor. we have careful. thank you. i didn't mean to be rude there. time sup. is up. >> hello, everyone. i'm dana, it's 5:00 o'clock in new york city and this is "the five." >> breaking new developments surrounding the apparent suicide of jeffery epstein. now a investigation being launched after the convicted sex offender was found dead in his jail cell on saturday. here is what we know so far. a source telling fox news guards waited several hours to check on epstein before he stkaoeued. even though the protocol was to monitor him every 30 minutes. the guards were working overtime

to make up for shortages the morning of the death. epstein didn't have a cell mate which is unusual. he was found semiconscious in his cell. this comes after the wallstreet journal says his lawyers asked for him to be taken off the watch list. >> we are learning about irregularities at this facility that are disturbing and demand a thorough investigation. we will get to the bottom what happened. there will be accountability. let me assure you this case will continue on against anyone that was working with epstein. any co conspirators should not rest easy. >> i was upstairs and peter said, did you hear what happened to epstein? i said, is he dead.

i didn't know but it's not surprising he took this action. >> what were you doing upstairs, dana? >> taking a shower. >> i was wondering if you could be implicated. >> oh. >> here is the thing about bring sons. we don't care. we don't think about the food or effective the suicide watch is or anything else. we're too busy thinking about public transportation, law enforcement, and crime in the street. we don't care what goes on in prisons as long as they don't escape. >> they're effective, people aren't escaping. >> i don't know if it's right to be too surprised about this. if you don't know how bad it is or how good it is. this is another example of the.

>> are we shocked? why should we be? >> we have a phone call talking about the state of the bureau of prisons and how they're under staffed. >> there are staffing issues, stkef nate hee, in the bureau of bring sons. especially ad up stray tiff, higher security, higher security level penitentiaries. you have got to have a better inmate to staff ratio. that would en tail someone outside his locked cell looking through and providing direct and constant supervision. that was the right call. that's what they should of done. >> juan, welcome back. this news broke on saturday. now we're back to talking about this, how prison staffs are overworked and under funded? >> i think we talk about prisons a lot. if you're going to prison. >> if you're man i ford or --

>> paul man i ford stayed here and el chapo. >> el chapo was moved here because of the trial. others are moved here was they want better surroundings, lower security and act sefplts epstein was allowed to leave a prison in florida to go to work during the day. >> under florida rule. >> six days a week, 12 hours a day he was on "work release." >> yes there are lawyers that get deals made. >> to me the big news is the attorney general say the investigation continues. he will have his investigation into the prison conditions. i'm interested in the investigation into epstein's crimes. i think the number one person joining him in the con artist, scam artist game is this woman, gislane maxwell.

ms. maxwell set up the sex trafficking of the young women, groom the young women, screen them for him. she's now missing. she's a interesting character to me in this mystery. she's the daughter of like a czech exile who dies. guess what, he is walking around like a rich die, but when he dies he owes $4 billion. she doesn't have a trust fund, then she's hooked up with epstein and introducing him to vanity fair and john f. kennedy jr. this is a rip off of people who pretend to be something but they're a lie. >> the investigation does have to go towards his finances right. you follow the money you may get answers. >> the finances and also the treasure trove of information that investigators have uncovered just in the raid, it's not even a town house it's a mansion on 71st street on the

upper east side of new york city. there were 48 loose diamonds in a locked safe. right n a shoe box. this goes to the point about the victims. the victims and a dozen or more new victims have come out since the in stkaoeutment -- >> seeking justice. >> -- they will never get their day in court to face him. they may get the unindieted co conspireers to like maxwell. this goes to asset forfeiture. how do you common sate these victims? criminal forfeiture of epstein's assets are not in the cards. there is no trial, no guilty verdict. prosecutors can go after civil forfeiture. they present the evidence and try to get his assets around the world, get their hands on them.

civil court suits have been filed and settled. we have to focus on the victims are. we not paying attention to them in the weeks, months and years to come. >> lawrence, your take on this. >> a couple of things. some of us have been paying attention to the prison system. it's been broken for a while. this guy is a bad guy, but in these cases he's the property of the state. it's their job to preserve evidence and make people are alive. it's inecompetence. it's been that way for a while. the problem is the only time we talk about this is if it's a rich person, powerful and connected. prison make witnesses they didn't tendon confessing. they're in prison to get a plea bargain or something. they sink. that's why this guy committed suicide, we think. he couldn't take the pressure of

prison and the four walls. you're robbed of the investigation. i blame the prison system for. that there are a lot of victims that need answers. you know, what this are a lot of people that were connected to him. he goes to the grave with their secrets now, that's evidence as well. >> you think the employees are overworked and underpaid in the bring sons. >> they are over worked and underpaid and the prison system needs to be evaluated. i am a criminal justice major. the private bring sons are ran better than state bring sons. >> i was going to ask you. people are so against the private bring sons. >> i was once too. if you look at the bring sons they have more programs and less people die. the state officers have to monitor those bring sons also. the property of the state. >> if the state can't do their

job these people have to be responsible. i wouldn't be surprised if someone is criminally responsible. someone died from them not monitoring him. >> good point. >> what is interesting to me, the state, the labor secretary, acosta down in florida. the big criticism was the justice system didn't give the victims of his crimes to know about the plea deal or testify against him in court to give them a sense of justice. here again they never get it. >> when we come back greg breaks down the conspiracies around epstein's death.

>> the response to epstein's suicide comes from the idiot corner. you know the man with the mountain of hare on his head. in that jeff said you aou this was coming, the russians. the man with information to destroy powerful lives how russian. then there is the reufrpg to bill barr. >> this department of justice doesn't inspire confidence. let's be blunt. william barr's justice department isn't one you can rely on or feel confident in. >> meanwhile others in the press scold anyone for their own suspicions. trump's tweets? maybe. these are the same clowns

chasing collusion. we think something smells fishy. one of the things more pervasive in life then corruption is in competence. they look the same. it means in competence was under staffed. if it's corruption something was looking the other way for a minute or two. they look identical. there will be investigations and nobody will be satisfied, epstein will be dead. once again the press will chase their tail. look at them trying to figure out who killed trust in the media. they blame trump. i think that was a inside job. i like the fact both sides have theories. we know that's how hillary wants it. >> yes if you're on the left or the right there is something you can use to target the opposition. i have to take issue with joe's tweet. he said this looks typically russian.

it would look more typically russian if epstein died by poisoning. >> that's true. >> that would make it more believable. this is a thing there will be investigations but it will be pretty much in conclusive and the conspiracies will run wild the rest of our lives. i one, i can't blame people for having, this is plausible. it's not a conspiracy if there are plausible other oplgss out there. >> to me it's rich powerful men involved with jeffery epstein. we talked about maxwell a moment ago. in a deposition filed in a suit departments her by one of the women, prom net powerful men whose names would be instantly recognizable to the audience, they have denied the allegations. they have so much to lose. they arguably benefit epstein isn't around to talk. i think the big tweet i was surprised you missed was trump's pointing a finger at bill

clinton. >> i said that it could of been trump's tweets. >> that was the big one to me. it seems to me -- >> clinton body count he called it. >> the conspiracy theories are a mix of fear and fantasy. >> if you rebutt them then know you're in the mainstream or deep state. they go right at it trump to me seems he loves conspiracy theories they distract. the big distraction here is he has his own connection to epstein. he doesn't want people to pay attention to. that he pays attention to khreupb on or ms. clinton. >> how much did hillary pay you for that? >> about 20 million. the shoe box in your house with the diamonds, she's sending it. >> transporting it. >> lawrence, what do you think? you are on the side of in competence not corruption. >> yes. part of me wants to be on the

conspiracy side. >> if it was any other issue. >> if i didn't know the criminal justice system like i know it, i would think it's a conspiracy. it's in competence. i think when we talk about the issue we can't forget about the innocence. there are people innocent and behind bars waiting for a fair trial going through these crazy incompetent people. it's a problem. >> this reminds me of looking like corruption but people just screwed up. kim fox screwed up but looked like she was doing something else. maybe it's a mix. >> msnbc, right after the jeffery epstein indictment dug up a tape of president trump they knew there was a news crew there at 1992. there are professional cheerleaders there, nfl cheerleaders and epstein is in the shot with them. there was a vague smear they

were frying to execute on president trump. meaning the russia collusion, that russia worked with the trump campaign to get him elected. that failed and blew up in their face. we will make this suggestion by running this videotape of president trump with jeffery epstein. i want to say this s people are trying to politicize this. this is a bipartisan conspiracy. it takes depre depr, vity, rapes been going on for decades. he was involved in a scheme in the 80s. why didn't anyone step up to stop this guy ten years ago, twenty, thirty. >> people are not sure how the hell he made his money, that could inform the reason. >> could i ask? >> yes, go ahead. >> the big powerful guy. there was a report in the new york times saying there was in

pro prpry tees how epstein dealt with his money. >> yes he came out last week saying the financial information was news to everybody. he cut ties with epstein in 2007. he alleges there was a miss appropriation of funds there. is a money trail of money flowing through foundations. i think harvard university got $2 million from jeffery epstein. maybe give that back, give that back to the victims. it's just a suggestion. >> these powerful men, apparently epstein had parties at his estate -- >> he owned victoria secrets. >> yes and shopping malls and the like. i think a lot of rich people decided he is my pal, my friend, my party guy and i will protect him. that's what happened unfortunately with the labor

secretary, acosta. i don't know how he got involved protecting him. >> he wasn't the only one. >> reaction to joe biden's rough weekend in iowa, ahead.

>> some democrats are so worried about joe biden after his latest miss steps campaigning in iowa. >> poor kids just as bright and talented at white kids, wealthy kids, black kids, asian kids. >> i watched what happened when the kids came up to see me in parkland when i was vice president. some of you covered it. you watch what happens when they were in the halls of congress. >> now david axelrod says these

gaps could cause concern if the former vice president can unseat president trump. here is axel's tweet: >> if biden blunders through the race anxieties will rise among democrats about his ability to go the distance. of course president trump has been using biden's slip ups to go after him. take a look. president: joe biden is not playing with a full deck this. is not someone you can have has your president tpefplt got the nomination i would be thrilled. joe is a pretty incompetent guy. i have watched his interviews, what he has said and how he says it. i wouldn't of rated him high in the first place. joe biden has lost his fastball. he limped through it. he got through it. i think it was okay. >> so the gop and president trump so worried about biden

making this frame of a guy who says he's a gas machine is now mentally unable as evidence by the recent gaps. >> at one point there will be one too many gaps. president trump has made it possible to get away with that goofy if you will and forgetfulness. president trump got away with saying some of the most outrageous things starting in 2015. this does highlight the vice president biden is seen as undisplaned and inconsistent. it's very early on. i break out into a cold sweat when the red light goes on, on the camera for fear i will say something stupid. like i meant to say last block it was the russian collusion delugedelusion with the trump campaign. see i digress and lose my train

of thought. that's what joe biden does. >> people can relate. >> exactly. the fastest growing segment of the electorate senior voters over 65 the highest since 1970. he's home free. >> wait a minute, you're insulting me and the audience. what are you doing? >> no. >> we can't speak without gaps. >> we're a forgiving nation. >> in fact, lawrence k people say, joe i know he said he was a gap machine. he's authentic and real like uncle joe. >> i think that's why he continues to make the mistakes. >> you think it's intentional? >> no i think he's making the mistakes because he's not authentic. he has changed from joe biden of scranton and the people's person. most of trump's gaps are in t-pbgs al. we go, oh he meant it that way.

so, i think the problem is the democrats have two things. it is very clear now that the votes in the primary don't like crazy. that's not the majority of democrats. so joe is literally the progressives and joe. joe doesn't have the stamina, not authentic, and trump will take advantage of that in the general election. >> i think he has. i don't think trump is always intentional. >> in dayton? he messes up all the time. >> tim apple is tim cook, i don't think . so i don't think . so. >> tim apple. >> i don't think he meant the continental army took out the airforce. >> when he says things sometimes they come off, offhanded and don't sound right. that's how he talks. anyone around trump, short sound bites. >> what do you think is this

evidence that bide sen too old. >> i think the gaps of biden are baked into his persona. some love him for it. what is different now is the media is starting to target him on it and point it out. what is different from like the republicans going through the primary in 015 to now, no other democrats are in the field going after him about it yet. i think that's because they're so focused on president trump. at this point in the republican primary 2015, president trump was mowing down the other candidates. leaving no one left. right now you still have 20 people still in the race. they're being too polite. they may believe that biden will self destruct. that could be a losing bet. then the democrats will be -- maybe they will want biden as the nominee. anyone thinking he will self destruct is wrong. i wouldn't be surprised if the

next round of debates the other democrats go after him. >> i thought booker went after him -- >> on this issue. you're too old. you have lost the step. as soon as someone tries to zero in on that weakness they will probably see themselves do better. >> wow. greg, dana says if the opponents zero in on his age they will do better. he has consistently been at the top despite the gaps. >> if you look who is around him. beto, he's faking changing a tire. kwraopb if you have seen the video. he doesn't have many competition but mary ann williamson. return my calls, i'm not kidding. joe is in a bind. if you protect joe he won't be prepared for the trump steam roller. if he hold him back and keep him under glass with a in case of

fire ax, but he may freak out voters. you have to carry him through the mountains. he doesn't need to try that hard right now. >> right. >> don't go out as much stay home. >> be quiet. >> be quiet it will be okay. >> if it's the case he's not the best candidate to beat trump a lot of democrats will jump ship, greg. >> right, aside from mary ann williamson. >> get out of here. >> i'm pushing her. >> i was getting 20 million from the clinton's. how much is trump paying you? >> she will win with love. >> is that it? my gosh. preacher, preach, greg. up next the escalating feud between the president and anthony scare scar scaramucci.

>> more words heating up between anthony scar a usuall scaramucct trump after trump's visit to el paso. >> i think you have to consider a change at the top of the ticket when someone is acting like this. >> the minute you say something he doesn't like, he figures he can intimidate you like a bully. there is pape is a evil to divie country. >> and trump's words back. he has tweeted: >> dana?

>> so now scaramucci is on tv. he's on tv a lot. >> i talked to scaramucci. he said one of the things he's upset about is the criticism that go back. do you think there is more to it? >> i don't know. this is, these are both people that are quite likeable on tv. trump and scaramucci. the mooch was not for trump in 2016. then was for trump and now isn't for trump. i don't know, maybe it's sin skier. i think they could potentially patch things up in the next six months. wouldn't that be a reunion. scaramucci has pointed out they may have to replace him. do you know he followed today on twitter? mark stanford. former republican from south carolina. he has his toe in the water. >> since he married the tweet

now saying the 2020 challenge, that d. that end them getting back together there. >> i think, i think the real housewives thing didn't pan out. scaramucci got the bug, the film bug. the spotlight bug that the money can't satisfy. he's like a meerkat. he sees the spot light, the meerkats pick up. that's the mooch. i have a sports analogy, you won't get it maybe juan. donald trump is the al davis as president. he ran the oakland raiders in the 70s. he has a motto "win baby." he attracted rough, scary and weird people. that was the entire oakland raiders. you get these weird third stringers. not the best judgment calls on trump's part. they get in under the guys of loyalty and if it doesn't turn out they turn on you. >> i was thinking thi thinking .

only the best people by the way. amarose said he was a low life. and then he called her a dog. i don't know but rex tillerson said he was a moron. this is remorse, buyer's remorse for people who wanted in on the power deal, visit the white house, the title and important job. they got the job but at some point they're like, maybe this wasn't a good idea scaramucci, what is interesting -- >> he got fired for doing that stupid drunken phone call. >> to a member of the press. >> leaking. >> i say drunk in not saying what i really think he's on. >> scaramucci, what you say now is true why wasn't it true before you took the job? he went after mccain, he went

after mexico. >> i think scaramucci thought he could help. he was going to go into communications -- >> they all think that, dana. tillerson thought that many. >> scaramucci turned on him not trump turning on scare a phaouf. >> scaramucci wants and needs attention. it's chilly and cold in the shade when you're ignored by the media. how do you get that big ray of sunshine to shine on you from president trump? president trump took the bait. he took the bait. he fired back at him immediately. i will point this out. anthony scaramucci supported obama in 2008. he went to law school. then he flipped and supported mitt romney. hated on president trump and then supported him. his finninger is in the air, he's looking which way the wind is blowing. and you remember steve roth the big developer with the arrows

fired at him the last week, week and a half. there you go. >> okay. we have to go. >> price tag of the eco friendly designer straws. lance armstrong mocking the vice president. and people using other peoples dogs to score dates. in the fastest seven, up next.

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♪ >> welcome back time for the fastest seven. first up is eco friendly straws tick you off, listen to this. french fashion design house, pugh ior, is now getting in on the green movement. a six pack of hannity painted reusable straws for $150. >> this is why i hate this e.r.a.. in the 1980s that glass straw was for coke. now it's for diet coke. [laughing] >> i even understood that. [laughing] >> i am not a buyer. i'm an admirer. i'm for innovation, free market. if people want to spend $150 on this, people make money, people have jobs. i'm for it. >> i'm for if it's not broke don't trike to fix it.

straws work fine the way they are. these straws will leave a bad taste in your mouth. you can't clean them out. >> i'm 150 years old, juan. i worry about chipping my teeth and the bacteria. >> poking your eye out. >> yes. >> is that right. >> yes. >> that happened to a lady. she died. >> don't talk about that, can't talk about that. >> i think that was a jail house thing. >> no, i mean look i think straws are a pollution problem. to me i saw someone tweet this is vulgar. i think it is vulgar. it's big money, showing off to take advantage. >> what? >> you just hate the rich today, juan. every day it's the riches fault. >> the rich, ya. oh, boy. >> why do you care if someone wants to spend $150 on it? >> i think it's a waste. you're trying to show off. your move is to say i'm better than you. >> you like to control all aspects of our lives.

can't even get a straw. >> can't get a straw. >> they sell thousand dollar dirty sweatshirts. who is the fool. >> how about the pants with the holes in them. >> that's fashion. >> notorious cheater lance armstrong, ya. skhaeter. creating a new controversy. he's canning mocked for bragging on twitter over his encounter with the vice president this weekend. >> he was clearly joking. a cheater who tried to destroy peoples lives. it's a good moment to highlight that. >> he puts the dope in blood doping. he thought he could get a thousand back pats on twitter for choosing a target like pence who the cool kids hate it backfired. people are like, i remember you, you ruined a sport. you lied every day of your career, shut up. it's just a bike.

>> lance , if you're watching you should know i'm working on a book, tweets i never sent. hold onto that tweet, we will get it in a book one day. >> i feel bad for him. he was looking for a moment. you know a friend, out of fame no longer there. he wanted to get back. the best way in hollywood -- >> i thought that would happen with my blood doping joke. >> the best way to get back is attack trump and his people or pence. nobody likes cheaters, right or left. >> i will suggest people watch the movie "stop at nothing" hear the tails how he tried to destroy lives of these men and went after them. you're a cheater and getting called out on it. >> he spends the summer in nantucket. >> with a glass straw. >> rich people. >> didn't you say it was a joke. [laughing]

>> he said it was a joke. can't people take a joke. >> you know he was signaling. >> if he's joking, the joke is on all of us. we're reacting and making him more famous. >> no. >> i don't think . so. >> i don't think this is the fame he wants. >> he's glad to get at tension. to me if he was joking. besides it's not like mike pence is in great shape. he's an older guy, come on. >> baseball bat in your spokes, lance. finally people are apparently willing to do anything to get a date these days. including posting photos with adorable pups they don't known to attract a match. it's a ridiculous trend called dog phishing. dane a it works. >> i think people are looking for relationships and looking for a way to do that. i don't think this is bad. >> no. this is the worst ever. it creeps -- it's an evolutionary trick.

women are attracted to men who show they care. a potted plant, a cat, a dog it makes you think he can take care of a child. only creepy guys do this. they go to the park with a dog. they wait there. they hope a girl will walk over, pretty dog th-fpltz an old trick. >> hi a single guy took jasper to the park one day. he met so many girls. i said go for it. >> no, it's lying. >> he's probably a serial killer. serial killers use pets to attract victims into their pits of hell. you have ever seen "silence of the lambs" he started with the lambs. i don't know how we got there, i'm sorry. >> you brought it up. would you like to say something before we go. >> woof. >> if a chick is coming over because i got a dog, cool. >> you think women need to do this? women need to hold a dog for a

guy. no we're not looking at the dog. >> if you have a baby, take your brother's child to the park. >> i have done that, left them there. >> one more thing, next.

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gestures in new york. >> he is traveling with no signs? he does this regularly? >> how polite is that, that's polite. >> "the five," "special report" is up next. >> bret: accused sykes trafficker dies behind bars. now everyone including the attorney general asks how could this happens. of we will talk live with ambassadors of india and pakistan about the increasingly dangerous situation and kashmir. this is "special report" ." these go musical good evenin," i'm bret baier were coming you tonight from fox news world headquarters in new york city. there are serious questions over the death of finance jeffrey and steen in a holding facility in a