you can eat it. rob: thank you so much. something i can eat. this is beautiful. thank you very much. rob: have a good day. ♪ >> turning to a fox news alert. a highway patrol officer is killed when a traffic stop turns into a wild shootout. escorting andre morea flag draped coffin in riverside, california overnight. ainsley: officer following tow truck to impound a car. didn't like that pulled out a gun and began firing. >> straight in the middle of my windshield missing my head and my two kids that were in the back. griff: the officer is the 27th officer killed in the line of duty this year.

he leaves behind a wife. to another fox news alert. one of the corrections officers who was supposed to be in charge of monitoring jeffrey epstein was a substitute. pete: this twist comes as chilling new details emerge about his apparent suicide in prison. ainsley: we are all asking questions about this. mark meredith joins us from washington as a congressional panel is now demanding answers, mark? >> ainsley, good morning. that's right this morning the reports jeffrey epstein hung himself in a cell with a bed sheet. one of the things we are learning about the apparent suicide over the weekend. many are asking how he could kill himself considering he was supposed to be checked on every 30 minutes. this as the associated press reports one of the corrections officer overseeing epstein was not a regular staffer. reports new york metropolitan correctional center is severely under staffed. attorney general bill barr says the country deserves answers.

>> i was appalled, indeed the whole department weighs, and, frankly, angry. to learn of the mcc's failure to adequately secure this prisoner. we are now learning of serious irregularities at this facility that are deeply concerning and demand a thorough investigation. >> speaking of investigation, a sailing company in the virgin islands snapped these pictures showing the fbi examining the former home in the virgin islands before the arrest. he was known to frequent the publish property. members of the house judiciary committee they sent the brew of prisons a list of 23 questions they want answered. among them who decided to remove epstein from suicide watch after he reportedly tried to kill himself once before. griff, pete and ainsley back to you guys. >> all right, mark. thank you. some details are coming out.

what i really like in following this is everyone is taking it seriously. you are going to have some people looking at it i think we will get to the truth. ainsley: apparently guards left him for several hours. he wasn't checked on. that guard was a substitute. two guards. one of them was not a full-fledged correctional officer. when they don't have enough manpower and people need to take vacation time, it's summer, then that's what happens there is a substitute. pete: like me and griff today. ainsley: i'm glad you guys are here. thank you some for waking up with us this morning. griff: this is true. i'm glad to be here. i cover so much immigration here. we have another story coming out of washington immigration. after i'm here today i will be going back and covering some of this. that is the administration is instituting a new regulation, if you will, called a public chart. basically says if you are coming to this country as an immigrant, you cannot be dependent on federal government benefits for more than 12 months at a time for any three year given period. they basically want immigrants coming to this country to be

self-independent. right? they can't be on medicaid, on food stamps, on welfare. here is ken cuccinelli heads up the uscif talking about it yesterday in washington. listen. >> for the last couple of decades, because of the guidance issued after the 1996 version of this law, it's been ineffective. and so the rule we issued today, a public charge rule, is intended to, once again, give meaningful effect to the public charge standard. what that is in oird english for people watching, is basically that we try to avoid having immigrants come through our process, come to our country, or become green card holders who are likely, in the future, to become welfare dependent. ainsley: mark steyn was filling in for tucker last night. he even said when i came into this country they were asking me these questions. apparently recently they

haven't been asking questions. are you going to be dependent on government aid and welfare. pete: it's always been a factor but ill defined. if you are a permanent resident and want to get a green card and go through the process. they look at age, health, a lot of different factors. this idea of have you been dependent on government benefits or not is ambiguous. this clarifies what qualifies. a country once striving, people contributing to the economy, why would we add citizens or permanent residents who are going to be dependent on the system in the first place? to a lot of people it looks like a common sense measure. griff: toy critics governor gavin newsom targeting families. rush limbaugh said this is really just protecting the american taxpayers. here is what rush said. >> this is going to save somebody that's never considered in any of, this we talk about illegal immigration, healthcare for

illegals, welfare, education, you name it, the one entity that is never discussed and never talked about is the taxpayer, the american citizen responsible for paying for all of this irresponsibility, the democrats are proposing. that is one large group of americans that nobody seems to give one hoot about anymore. and certainly not the democrats. but trump does. trump is the only person to give two hoots about this group of people, the american taxpayers. ainsley: a lot of people are upset about it. a lot of democrats that were hammering ken cuccinelli saying are you going to now remove the plaque on the statue of liberty where it says, you know, we want the poverty and the broken to come into our country. but this apparently does not effect anyone who is seeking asylum or is leaving their country because of persecution and their life is in danger.

pete: that's right. it doesn't affect certain members of the military. green asylum seekers. we welcome anybody of any status. ultimately this country is premised on the idea that you can be poor and earn your way into the middle class or into wealth. just like you can fall out of that so poor are welcome. the question is are you striving and fighting to provide for your family and not be dependent on the country that allowed you to come here? it's pretty straightforward. i will say that the failing "new york times," failing yet again this morning, of course, they are opening a line. it's all about words. you know, this griff. president trump on monday, broadened his assault on the nation's immigrant system. i think a lot of people would say strengthened, clarified the immigration system to make sure we are doing it based on merit, not just on how long -- griff: i think you can probably expect to see a handful of lawsuits on this. it's really narrowing or defining, you know, what would make someone inadmissible. if it looks like you are

going to be dependent on the government they will make them inadmissible that's going to be challenged legally for sure. pete: let them challenge it. this president said you put americans first. of course, i pay a lot in taxes and it goes to folks who may be dependent on a system imimperpetuity and they are not citizens? ainsley: they rejected 1033 people who wanted green cards. in 2019, they rejected 1217. so about 11,000 more than they did a few years ago. granted more people are trying to get into the country now. griff: it will be interesting to see if we hear this become a talking point on the 2020 campaign trail it. hasn't become one yet in iowa. pete: they will add it to the racism bag, the pile, that's what they will do. ainsley: let us know what you think friends@foxnews.com. curious to know what you think if folks who come over should be able to get

welfare. griff: medicare is talked about in iowa. we have talked a lot yesterday about the iowa state fair. there was a moment when kamala harris. -- if you cover the campaign trail in iowa you know every single inch of it. pete: i love it. griff: here is kamala harris talking with a 91-year-old resident at the bic ford senior living center talking about her healthcare, listen. >> we are going to pay for it because right now let me tell you something we are all paying for healthcare for someone. >> no we're not. >> we have health insurance. >> okay. >> i don't intend to mess your. >> i want to make sure your healthcare is the way you like it. i will promise you that okay? i won't mess with the healthcare that you have. ainsley: i love it. pete: i don't intend to mess with it? ainsley: leave it alone. don't touch my healthcare. griff: that moment is very

interesting though. because here is roberta jewel, 91. a great sound bite because she is standing tough against senator harris because she is worried. that's an important point. she is legitimately worried and scared there is a government replacement for what she has now. so it's interesting that that's the first time we have seen an exchange like that. ainsley: i think it worries a lot of americans when you hear these candidates say you are not going to be able to keep your healthcare, you will go on a government healthcare. many of us like our healthcare, we want to be able to choose our doctors. when you are 91 years old you think about your health. my grandmother was in pain constantly. she need to know she can call her doctors and they are there for you. pete: when you watch that last democrat debate 45 minutes in a debate whether or not private health insurance all together would be abolished replacement for government healthcare. folks like her have heard democrats like barack obama say before if you like your healthcare, can you keep your hurricane. if you likyour -- healthcare.

premiums went up for a lot of people. republicans get demagogued all the time if they try to reform welfare, let's say, and how do we save money in government oh you are going to push grandma off the cliff. you are going to get rid of their benefits and become a vulnerability. democrats have walked into a very interesting vulnerability here where average voters are wondering the healthcare that they have that they like, whether they can keep it. and they have seen government and the way it operates and they are skeptical that government could run healthcare across the country. this is a huge problem for them. even if the trump campaign doesn't have, you know, it's not easy to explain how the private sector always delivers better healthcare. griff: i would love to get email or comments from at this any of our particularly senior viewers on foxnews.com. if this scares you. if you are recorder that they replace it with something that gives you the same adequate care is it fright thing to shift from a private one to a government one. ainsley: a lot of people

don't like change. especially when you are a senior facility like that, you don't want them to come in and change everything when you are 91 years old. pete: a lot of those folks are also worried about their kids and grandkids and what kind of system will they have. ainsley: of course. pete: inevitable result is government takeover. griff: that's not all the news we have. here is jillian. jillian: we begin with a fox news alert now. let's start off with this story. one person is dead and one is hurt after a stabbing rampage in the middle of a city watch as a man raises a butcher's knife yelling god is great in arabic in sydney, australia. by standers pinning him on the ground with cafe chairs and putting a milk crate over his head. police say he was carrying a flash drive is terrorist ideologies on it. is he behind bars and believes to be mentally ill. the attack is not being investigated as terrorism. still scary mommy's there though. a friend who bought body armor for the dayton shooter is due in federal court

tomorrow. he lied on firearms forms when he bought a gun for himself. he never disclosed he was growing psychedelic mushrooms and smoked marijuana. he body bought armor and magazine used in deadly shooting. the prosecutors say he play nod role in planning the massacre. he could face 15 years in prison. senator rand paul will make his first appearance publicly today since undergoing lung surgery earlier this month. the senator is set to speak at the chamber of commerce luncheon in kentucky. doctors have removed part of his lung that was damaged when his neighbor aassaulted him in 2017. renee boucher was sentenced to 30 days in prison last year for that altercation. oakland radars wid raiders willn the season. denying the request to wear his old helmet. brown has threatened to retire after a league ruled outlawed head gear he used

in past seasons for safety reasons. there will be more on this helmet controversy next hour. stirring a lot of opinions on social media. griff: my star player and fancy football league. i'm struggling whether to keep him you are on the edge of your seat with this. griff: best receiver for years. won my fantasy football championship two years ago. ainsley: fantasy football meetings. griff: i have been in a fantasy football league for 25 years now. this year it's a big deal and like to win another championship. ainsley: it's the cutest thing. pete: i dropped out of my league two years ago. i don't miss it. i love football. ainsley: take too much time? pete: i wasn't keeping up my roster and my guys weren't playing. i'm interested to hear what merrill hoge says in the show. i think he should wear whatever helmets he wants. griff: we will see.

pete: a lot of guys complain about the helmets. you want to wear something that works for you. ainsley: 14 minutes after the top of the hour. the fight for religious freedom a top priority for the trump administration. >> we have stood with those who are pressed for their religious beliefs around the world. the united states will continue to stand for the freedom of religion. pete: our next guest has traveled around the world and seen persecution firsthand. she breaks down what the administration is doing about representing just freedom coming up next.

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the world. what are we doing about that? >> yes. i mean certainly in the case of christians who are amongst the most persecuted in the world, the united states has been extremely aggressive but also for all minorities around the world. in iraq, in particular, it's a tragedy. i was in the north of iraq. it is the cradle of christian civilization, the christians were there from the time of the apostles from the lifetime or shortly after the lifetime of the holy jesus. and they now form only 4% of the world's christians and they are in the smallest numbers. they are in iraq in 20,031.5 million christians live there. now less than 300,000 in iraq. so our country, this president in particular, more than president obama and more than president george bush has been committed to protecting the religious freedom of christians and congressman from new jersey chris smith to pass the iraq and genocide relief act.

allows money to go directly to christians. domestic violencing it around baghdad. don't have to go in the black hole of corruption where aid is misunited states used. also the united states and president trump have particularly empowered those christians to prosecute the isis perpetrators and pursue them until kingdom come which is excellent. we need to do more. i think the president is capable of that. pete: most of the persecution of christians happen in majority countries whether it's blasphemy laws or other things. how can we confront that and stop the reduction of christian communities in these places? >> so, with respect, the number 1% cuter of christians is china. that actually china and north korea. also in majority countries, if the christians survive, democracy can survive. 40% of the world's christians are now americans including the united states where a big sanctuary for

christianity. so if christians are not surviving, democracy is not surviving, that's what's very concerning for the u.s., concerning iraq. pete: democracy is not surviving very well at all in the middle east. as a result, in the past we have seen secular dictators that have shielded christians, a lot of that. >> see, that's the tragedy. when you were there, post saddam, immediately post saddam the christians in iraq were actually somewhat more secure under that brutal dictator than they are today. and that is because of the complete failure of governance in iraq. the place i was in was just across the kurdish border. kurdistan is a haven for christians. there are over 300,000 christians, refugees in iraqi, kurdistan that they're protected and they are thriving and their rights are absolutely valuable to the kurdish government. inside iraq where i was. we see the iranian militia that is inserted in iraq patrolling. they have replaced places where isis was. and isis has melted into the

hillside but remains. pete: remains a problem. >> remains a threat. pete: i have been told in the past that christians and jews are held more highly in the quar quran. >> why do held. >> valuable. manufactured totalitarianism. demonizing not only christians but things completely sacred. the virgin mary, the gospel. the idea of immaculate conception. all of these things are completely divorce from reality to the islamists. it was appalling to go to the cradle of christianity in iraq. the place where the black bird drinks. that's the name of the city the town means. and see a decapitated statue of the virgin mary and of jesus, to see desecrated churches, to see a bell tower demolished. this is the work of isis. remember, isis was there

five years ago. they have been gone for two years. what the iraqi christians need is for that security to be augmented and the only way that can happen is by empowering the kurdish regional government. they have protected minorities inside iraq baghdad is so weak that iran and iranian militia, the popular mobilization front is now usurping that. not only are they dominating the landscape, they are buying homes in christian towns. pete: intentionally to push them out. >> exactly. pete: we see that all over the place. we're glad the administration is taking this on this. is a surgeon o scourge of our e. here 2020 making this pitch to college students. >> all student debt would be cancelled. >> we can cancel student loan debt for 95% of the folks. pete: it's all free. one student says sanders and warren will never forgive him for his college experience. he is live to explain next

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its nuclear program after targeting 17 countries. griff, ainsley, over to you guys. griff: thanks, pete. it's become a progressive rallying cry from 2020 candidates, listen glumed the proposal today all student debt could be cancelled. >> we could cancel student loan debt for 95% of the folks who have got student loan debt. >> bail out wall street, we can cancel student debt. >> 95% of the people who are dealing with student loan debt will see their debt cancelled. ainsley: new op-ed never forgive me. explain about forgiveness. griff: here to explain is law student ethan ames. great article. why did you write this article? >> good morning, thanks for having me. i wrote this article because i was watching the last

democratic presidential debate and i could not believe what i was hearing from elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. i thought it seemed like pandering and i also thought that it made it less likely that they were going to win in 2020 because although these policies may be popular with a small subset of distressed borrowers. i think the american public at large is opposed to them. so i just don't think it's going to be a winning strategy for them. ainsley: ethan, it's very well written and you are clearly very bright. tell the folks at home who haven't read this what your experience has been. >> yeah. so, you know, the op-ed begins discussing my personal background. i began school at the university of south carolina and after semester there, although i enjoyed it, i just knew that it wasn't going to be worth the amount of money that i was paying for it. i decided to transfer to a less expensive school the university of toledo and pursued a degree in accounting which is a highly elm employable major. after graduating from the university of toledo which did i in three years i

started working at price house coopers large accounting firm worked there before attending the university of chicago. griff: you attended a less expensive school to get a degree in a subject providing a safer path to repayment. you see this really as unfair to people like you what sanders and warren are proposing. >> exactly, when i think back to my time at the university of toledo and all of my classmates there. you know, a lot of students that were there, again, were not passionate about accounting. they knew that college was expensive and they knew they were going to have to repay any loans they took out. they took active measures as did i to reduce the amount of borrowing. and also chose a major which could provide them a good-paying job after graduation. so i think that these type of policies punish those people because they suffered, you know, an opportunity costs lost essentially during college by making those tough decisions. and now essentially for bernie sanders and elizabeth warren to tell those people,

people like me, that those sacrifices are essentially valueless because we could have taken out as much loans as they wanted and they would forgive them anyway us. when the op-ed talks about ex post facto that's what that means. this is a retroactive policy change. these loans were taken out before this policy existed. that's what's particularly perverse about these kinds of policies. ainsley: what i love about your story though, i'm reading this article, at first i'm feeling sorry for you because you really wanted to go to dennison university but it was too expensive the prestigious private school in ohio. then you went to the university of south carolina. you were paying more than $17,000 a year. you said that was the cost of a honda civic. so you went back home to ohio and you ended up going to a state school there and then you got your degree and you said you had to get your degree in accounting because you knew you could pay back your loans even though you really wanted to study political science. through hard work, living at home your parents, saving money you are able to pay off your loans and now you are in law school studying,

according to this article what you really wanted to study all along which was political science. you write in the article that you are worried that these campaign promises are going to be forgotten. kids are going to hear free school. they are going to go to dennison which their first choice so outrageously expensive and these politicians are going to get elected and they are not going to be able to do this and pay it back. is that your fear? >> yeah. i think that's accurate. so, you know, when you think about something like the stock market, when you look at 2017 tax cuts, that were passed. the market was pricing those into price of securities long before the tax act was passed. and so much like that, we are going to see students looking at the election, looking at polls, and, you know, looking at the candidates that they think are going to win. if that candidate is elizabeth warren or bernie sanders, i think it's very likely that you know, they are going to start choosing a more expensive school if they are between two schools. they will pick a major that's a little bit more risky, and possibly, we could even see people stop paying student loans. looks like a really sure bet that they are going to get

elected. griff: we might even see if this came through the warren sanders plan 1.6 trillion in debt erased. i'm not sure they can handle that number. i'm not sure the country can. ethan, thank you, great piece. ainsley: go gamecocks, ethan. >> thanks for having me. griff: fox news alert. an officer in charge of monitoring jeffrey epstein was apparently a substitute. how could this happen? ainsley: judge napolitano says this is a big embarrassment that could lead to serious charges. he is on deck next. ♪ ♪ you've had quite the career.

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♪ ainsley: this is your shot of the morning. a plane passenger bonds with a worker down on the tarmac over a game of rock paper scissors. griff: fun moment going viral with more than a million views on twitter. griff: guys are now in touch online and say they are up for a rematch. great idea. ainsley: he did scissors, what did the guy on the ground do because whatever it was he lost. pete: probably paper. ainsley: i guess it would have to be paper, right? there is only one. griff: shall we? okay. 1, 2, 3. pete: 1, 2, 3, shoot.

ainsley: you lost. griff: 1, 2, 3, shoot. got it. ainsley: you would be, you cut us both. i'm. jillian: i'm terrible at this. griff: 1, 2, 3. lost again. all right, jillian. jillian: i won. griff: with that you do the news. jillian: let's start off with this story because a man is behind bars after opening fire at a hospital. chicago officer tackling gunman to the ground before anyone was hurt. he left behind a trail of broken glass. officials say this could have been far worse. >> within 30 seconds of that firing, the va police responded and mitigated the threat. we avoided tragedy here in the city of chicago. jillian: the suspect is now believed to be a veteran. the motive is unclear. police are searching for a woman abducted in broad daylight. just take a look at this shocking surveillance video showing the unidentified woman running away from a man who forces her inside a

pickup truck in arizona. witnesses say she was screaming for help. unclear if the pair knew each other. we will keep you updated when we get more information. a group of hold foods employees demanding parent company amazon cut ties with ice. they want amazon to stop deporting helps ice track immigrants. in a letter employees write undocumented people must be welcomed with compassion and treated like the political and economic slime seekers they are. hundreds of people occupied the amazon flagship store in new york on sunday. this story, man. a brand new bmw sinks into the river on purpose. police in india say the 22-year-old man trashed his birthday gift because he wanted a jaguar instead. [laughter] jillian: he was angry that his parents didn't get him a car that was big enough to fit all his friends united states.

ainsley: oh, please. jillian: they didn't think he was really going to do that. he talked about wanting the jaguar. they didn't think he would go to that level. ainsley: i mean, what in the world? pete: he has a lot of friends. needed something bigger. ainsley: ungrateful for the gift. ainsley: parents shouldn't have gotten him that as a first car. pete: do you think that was their first mistake in parenting? probably not. griff: could have gotten him a minivan that cost half the price. ainsley: what would he have done with that one? janice. are you going to get your boys a bmw for first car? >> well, i guess you would need a lot of money for that. i would have to work on that first. i would love to have a bmw, just saying. you know what? it is a beautiful -- i'm going to say we are going to see the potential for showers and thunderstorms. for now it is dry in new york city. my friends, how are you? what are your names? >> ann. janice: i love your betsy

ross t-shirt. >> we saw them on fox. janice: you did, fantastic. birthdays and celebrations here? >> oh, yes. mine 72nd and we have been married 49 years. i have a lot to celebrate. janice: oh my gosh, congratulations. what is the secret to a long lasting marriage? >> i give all my money to my wife and whatever she says. janice: that is awesome. >> it is. janice: love you guys. here we are. 74 right now. it is humid here in new york city. and we could see the potential for showers and thunderstorms, even some severe storms later today across portions of the tennessee, the ohio river valley. that's the severe threat. and take a look at d.c., where we could see the potential for large hail, damaging winds, even isolated tornadoes later on. potential for heavy rain causing flash flooding across the south. parts of the gulf coast towards the midwest. and we will finally see a little bit of break in the heat across the south. down to the 90's and 100 degrees across portions of the gulf coast up towards the deep south. all right. say hi to ainsley and pete

and griff today. ainsley: i love the south carolina hat. >> university of south carolina. i graduated before you were born, ainsley. >> we just want to say hi to our kids. >> very nice. >> and grand kids. >> i love it. you have to give me a hug though. >> hug, oh. thank you. >> you are so nice. watch you every morning. janice: can you stay the whole show? [laughter] ainsley: i'm going to come out there and hug their necks, too. pete: pretty soon they will be on the couch as guests but now we have judge napolitano host of liberty file on fox nation. judge, we have been talking about -- there is the show right there. don't miss it if you are not catching it. jeffrey epstein, the latest, apparent suicide. new details we are learning about someone on shift that wasn't qualified to be there, didn't have a cell mate. what do you make of where we are at right now. >> metropolitan federal

detention facility where he was being held obviously is poorly managed. the attorney general himself said that the question is was there corruption. did somebody intentionally look the other way, or was there criminally negligent homicide. so, allowing a person, the means with which to kill, when you have a duty to deny the person that means, is the definition of criminally negligent homicide. i doubt that the government is going to prosecute anybody for that, but i don't know how we are going to get to the answers. the camera was off. look, new jersey hospitals have a very inexpensive camera with software. and it focuses on the patient. the size of a quarter. the patient doesn't see it. this is for dangerous patients. the patient gets out of bed, alarms go off. did the bureau of prisons not have this? and if they did have it, why wasn't it turned on? the person that i am interested in hearing from is dr. michael baden who is the great pathologist. great new york city

pathologist allowed to you observe the autopsy and perform his own if he wants by epstein's lawyers to hear his version of the death. the version in the "new york times" that he choked himself -- the "new york times" not "the new york post." almost impossible to choke yourself to death. normal human reactions would resist that we still don't know how he died. ainsley: gosh, well, bill barr, furious about this. >> i don't blame him for being furious. even though these people work for him. the bureau of prisons ultimately works for the attorney general. i believe he was shocked to learn and the federal government's largest holding facility how negligent and horrific the conditions are. ainsley: listen to what he said. listen. >> i was appalled and indeed the whole department was, and frankly angry to learn of the mcc's failure to adequately secure this prisoner. we are now learning of

serious irregularities at this facility, that are deeply concerning and demand a thorough investigation. judge: talked about whether or not there is going to be a try. obviously he can't be prosecuted. he is dead. you can't prosecute the estate. the indictment mentions three employees not by name, employee 1, 2, and 3, excuse me, and other co con spiritters known to the grand jew but unnamed. can those people be prosecuted. the kirsten gillibrand you just ran the attorney general looked in the camera we know how are, and we suggest you not sleep well at night. answer, yes, they have to prosecute these other people. the victims are entitled to it. society is entitled to know what happened here, how grand, how large was this scheme, who helped him. who benefited from it. >> can these victims though, and that's what really has been compelling about this story come forward and obviously epstein did lake some of these secrets to the

grave. will they get their day in court ultimately? >> i suggest to you there is going to be a lot of lawsuits filed in the very near future. the question is will those cases ever come to trial? probably not. probably whoever is the administrator of the estate, we haven't seen the will yet so we don't know. we don't know how big the estate is we don't know is f. he is anywhere near as wealthy as everyone claimed he was. whoever is in charge of that estate will probably settle these cases by writing checks to these people. short answer, we will not have under cross-examination the type of truth-telling and truth testing that the government was expecting to have if epstein had gone to trial. ainsley: do you know anything about him personally other than what we know of these heinous alleged crimes? does he have kids? >> i don't think he was ever married. i'm just going by what i see in the papers. pete: talking about heinous crimes is the reason we care because is he was tied to some so many political people? >> the reason we care is because a rich guy got away with something that anybody

else would never ever ever ever get away with that is a fundamental injustice in our system. and i think the attorney general sees that. ainsley: other reason we care is for these victims. >> of course. ainsley: all right, thank you, judge. pete: joe biden is making a promise about president trump's tax cuts. >> i'm going to eliminate mostly all of them. a few of the tax cuts we -- no, you think i'm joking. i'm not. pete: joe biden have a bigger problem on the road to 2020? that's coming up. pete: it's back-to-school time i just dropped my daughters off at college. we need deals for college kids and everyone else going back to school next. ♪ do you remember when ♪ yeah, let's twist again

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epstein and how he died. pete: one of the people in charge of monitoring jeffrey epstein was a substitute. ainsley: this twist comes as chilling new details emerge about how he allegedly died in prison. griff: mark meredith joins us live from washington. mark, a congressional panel now demanding answers. >> griff, that's right. this morning lawmakers and justice department are demanding answers in jeffrey enstein's apparent suicide. the "new york post" reports the 66-year-old died after hanging himself in his cell with a prison bed sheet. there are reports that meant correctional center where epstein was being held was severely understaffed. the associated press was says one of the of the corrections officers when epstein was on duty died was a substitute not an officer. the republican ranking member of the house usual area committee have sent a letter to the bureau of prisons with 23 questions they want to know about this death. they want to know who took him off suicide watch and if any surveillance cameras were near his cell.

all this comes as bill barr says the investigation into sex trafficking in conspiracy will continue even after epstein's death. >> let me assure you that this case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with epstein. any coconspirators should not rest easy. the victims deserve justice and they will get it. >> the fbi was spotted in the virgin islands on monday where epstein once had property. investigators have not said what they were searching for. but before his arrest, he was known to frequent the lush island property. griff, pete, and ainsley, back to you guys. we will be watching this story all day long. griff: hurt, mark, thank you very much. >> i read one article where the had a mysterious safe. more than just cash according to bloomberg tv. griff: we had judge napolitano on last hour maybe it was a case of

somebody being paid to look the other way, listen. >> the question is was there corruption? did somebody intentionally look the other way? or was there criminally negligent homicide? so, allowing a person the means with which to kill, when you have a duty to deny the person that means is the definition of criminally negligent homicide. i doubt that the government is going to prosecute anybody for that, but i don't know how we are going to get to the answers. the camera was off. it's almost impossible to choke yourself to death. normal human reactions would resist that we still don't know how he died. pete: yeah. i mean, besides thinking about the victims which deserve their day. ainsley: of course. pete: i find it difficult to muster compassion for jeffrey epstein. ainsley: the victims wanted justifiable for what he did to them. i was happy to hear judge napolitano say there will be a trial of some sort to figure out what to do with his estate and possibly all

of these victims will get a portion of his money. pete: preferential twreement for being a well connected individual in this country is always wrong that will fire you up. he got things down in florida the way he was treated early release that otherwise no one would have gotten. that's a travesty. griff: caring about the american taxpayer what the administration is doing in another story and that is has to do with immigration. the new regulation, the public charge if you will that the administration is going to put in would deem some immigrants inadmissible to receiving permanent legal status if they receive public benefits for more than 12 months in a three year period. in any given time and it would, you know, we are not talking about the asylum seekers, people being prosecuted in other countries for coming here. we are talking about people applying for green cards, essentially. you have to be independent. you have to be self-sufficient. you can't be on food stamps. you can't be on welfare. tom homan, a former ice director has been so outspoken on some of these

issues. on "fox & friends" earlier explaining why the president is doing. this. >> this has been within the immigration nationality act. it's always understood if you want to immigrate to the united states if you want to immigrate here you have got to be self-sufficient. you have got to not become a public charge. what surprised me for the three decades i was enforcing immigration law. the immigrant advocacy groups and the left always said immigrants don't take advantage of social services in the united states. if that's true, i don't know why have such a fit over this rule because it just -- it flies in the face what been saying for decades. got to take care of american people. this is what the president is doing once again he is putting america first. ainsley: basically already been on the books for a long time. it just has not been implemented. for a while. so now they are saying if you are coming here, look, we can barely afford the people who are here. we need to take care of the legal residents. if you are com coming here you

have to contribute to society. we are not just handing out green cards and we pay your way. pete: larger principle. milton freidman made the argument you either have a wall around your country or wall around your welfare benefits. right now we have a law around neither. meaning the wall is not complete. we have a porous border. the president is trying to address that we have a magnet into welfare systems where even if you are not here legally, can you receive government benefits and get on a path to become citizen while still dependent on the government. this principle is if you are here and want to be a permanent member, you need to be paying taxes, correcting to the economy not a net negative to the economy. and this is, of course, the critics will say this is more assault on immigrants and racism and all of that no, it's simply applying a rule change to make sure we are getting the types of folks we want here who will contribute to the workforce of our country. really straightforward. ainsley: it doesn't apply to the people who are in danger. >> refugees, asylum seekers,

members of the military, things like that. ainsley: exactly, if they can prove their case, they are allowed to come in. this is just applying to people living down in exmexico or living wherever. living in any country and get on welfare. not going to happen. griff: interesting to see if this picks up steam on the 2020 campaign trail amongst democrats. as you pointed out earlier. pete the "new york times" pointing out another assault. pete: all about the words you use. they are in the tank for the left as they always are at the "new york times." you could use the word strong. i think a lot of people would relate to that especially taxpayers that feel like we are a trillion-dollar deficit, i'm not getting what i need and we are paying for this? griff: you mentioned taxpayers. on the 2020 campaign trail, the frontrunner, joe biden is talking about eliminating all of president trump's tax cuts. take a listen to what he said in boone, iowa. >> we spent 15 billion a year. by eliminating just a few of the tax cuts i'm going to eliminate mostly all of

them. but a few of the tax cuts we -- no, you think i'm joking, i'm not. you know about me and taxes. but at any rate. pete: if you know anything about me and taxes, i like to raise them. [laughter] ainsley: when the tax cuts were implemented, president trump was speaking to middle america helped most states. here in new york it didn't. it actually -- we all paid a little bit more in taxes or a lot more in taxes this year. but maybe biden is trying to appeal to the new york base to the big cities. that really felt a punch this year. griff: it's interesting. i wonder how many small business owners, farmers and the like were in that boon, iowa audience that said well, i don't know if i want you to take away that because i was able to buy a new tractor, because i was able to expand my business. pete: exactly. that's the message the administration has put forth. while we didn't help people in new york city. we did help the fabric of america. pete: they are trying to stumble on a way to talk about running against this gang buster's economy.

ainsley: i know. pete: they are not doing it well. there is no way to describe it other than alternate system. ainsley: you want to take away the tax cuts helping the economy. pete: take away the tax cuts made us competitive. give people a way of life? that's absurd. they are trying. griff: that's not technically a blunder. although joe biden has had many of them in recent days. and this is a little bit of the montage of what we have seen from the frontrunner. >> poor kids who are just as bright and just as talented as white kids. >> we choose truth over facts. >> international leaders spoke about it. you had people like margaret thatcher -- excuse me, had you people like the former chairman and leader of the party in germany. >> i watched what happened to those kids from parkland came up to see me when i was vice president. some of you covered it. pete: this is not the greatest hits, we could be here all morning if we

played the greatest hits. ainsley: his campaign was asked about it. here is joe biden's communication director and campaign manager. name is kate betting field. this is what she said about his recent blunders. pete: joe biden has spoken his mind his entire life which viewers know spoken about him. he is authentic. that has never changed. ainsley: joe being joe. pete: do we want joe not able to remember things and mischaracterizing things? griff: to the spokeswoman's point, it's joe makes these misstatements. he has done it for years. the problem is the frequency of them. and so many democrats analysts are saying i don't know if he is going to have this frequency with blunders. is he the best person to take on donald trump in the debate which is the concern. if you are a democrat wanting to replace president trump? pete: he feels like a front runner name only. yes, he is on top of the polls.

very early. everyone knows who he is. got no energy. he keeps making mistakes. he has a nickname that will stick. sleepy joe. it doesn't feel like the party is red i don't to say this is our guy. ainsley: if you talk to many solve the democrats behind the scenes they all say yeah, i know, some of these blunders make us scratch our heads, what do we do? but, he was on top of the polls. voters love him. they like some of this about him because they think is he relatable. no one is perfect. we all have our little blunders. pete: blunders are fun when it doesn't matter. when you are on that debate stage. ainsley: doing so well in the polls. >> doing well? at 30%. once you put the progressives together they beat him. he has enough support to cross the threshold. griff: name recognition so too does bernie sanders that's why he trailing in the top front of the pack. bernie sanders is really putting some things out there. policy wise. >> he has been putting out there for a long time. griff: it is getting a lot of attention. yesterday he was talking about what is the biggest threat to our country.

is it terrorism? is it isis? no he, he says it's. this. >> >> four years ago i came here to iowa and i was asked what is the major national security issue people thought i would say isis or al qaeda and those are big issues. the answer that i gave in terms of national security is climate change. ainsley: the biggest national security threat, according to bernie sanders is climate change. pete: the left says it all the time. this is what they believe. it is their religion. they want to fight the weather. the rest of us want to deal with real threats that want to take away our freedoms. think about four years ago. what was that 2015? isis was still, you know, this is during obama's term. isis was still a huge problem. the caliphate was there president trump ran on destroying isis, which he did to their physical caliphate. now there is remnants we need to be concerned about today. that's taking on a real

threat directly. whether it's hot or cold, the enemy is here as far as liberals are concerned. it's all about control for them. that's why climate change is the perfect enemy. they get to control your life to deal with it no matter what's happening. that makes sense for bernie. that's what they're learning in college across the board. they are not learning about radical islam. they are learning will environmentalism and radical environmentalism. all those kids going to school public and private. that's why these messages catch on. young kids voting believe it. griff: we shall see. ainsley: i don't know how they will feel when you take away their cars and airplanes and cows and burgers. pete: didn't get to the fact one university is getting rid of beef. no beef on campus because they want to reduce their carbon footprint. griff: first we have got to get to jillian over there with news. it's not about burgers. jillian: i don't know thousand follow that up. we begin with a fox news alert now. a highway patrol officer is killed when a traffic stop turns into a wild shootout.

fellow officers escorting andre moyer's flag draped coffin in florida. the officer was calling a tow truck to impound the car when a driver pulled out a gun and began firing. two other officers hurt in the shootout. the gunman was killed. witnesses narrowly escaping disaster. >> the bullet went straight in the middle of my windshield missing my head and my two kids. they were in the back. >> the officer is the 27th officer shot and killed in the line of duty this year. he served for nearly three years and leaves behind a wife. also breaking right now, at least one person is dead and one is hurt after a stabbing rampage in sydney australia. watch as a man raise as butcher's knife yelling god is great new arabic. by standers pinning him on the ground with cafe chairs and putting a milk crate over his head. police say he was carrying a flash drive with terrorist ideologies on it.

the suspect is believed to be mentally ill. the attack is not being treated as terrorism. one state considers banning abortions as soon as a woman knows she is pregnant. the tennessee judiciary committee holding a second hearing on the proposal today. lawmakers will debate the amendment to the so-called heartbeat bill. the changes are expected to be accepted. the bill could be put up for a vote by january. president trump taking off for pennsylvania in just a few hours. he will tour a shell chemical ethan plant boost manufacturing and energy. once complete that plant will provide 600 jobs. send it back to you. pete: 60600 dirty jobs. pete: if bernie sanders really cared he would be picketing outside the chinders embassy right now every single day. if you want to point fingers who is causing global climate change that's what they should be doing but they don't. they blame you and take away

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griff: a fox news alert. attorney general bill barr vowing to get to the bottom of jeffrey epstein's apparent suicide behind bars. alarming new details reveal one of the guards assigned to him to monitor him was a substitute. our next guest says someone had to drop the ball for this to happen. former u.s. attorney bret tolman joins us now to explain. bret, thanks for being here. what do you make of these new revelations? >> well, you know, shocking. this is an agency that has over $7 billion in its budget and it can't figure out a way to utilize some of it to have, you know, regular guards and staff and make sure that the highest profile inmate in federal custody is not at risk of killing himself? it's unconscionable. >> yeah. just one of the many things that attorney general barr very upset about this, going it serious irregularities. i want you to take a listen to what he had to stay in new orleans.

>> we are now learning of serious irregularities at this facility that are deeply concerning and demand a thorough investigation. the fbi and the office of inspector general are doing just that. griff: your reaction? >> well, you have the highest profile inmate but you have someone that's not trained, that's now watching him, we learned. not doing regular check-ins. that there was, you know, the ability to utilize a bed sheet, if that's what it was. we think. which is unheard of in the federal, you know system. prison system. and then you have a situation where we're learning that he met with the defense counsel just hours before he committed suicide. and we're told that it's possible that the defense counsel requested that he be taken off suicide watch. that's like the first time in history that division of

doj listened to a defense counsel. so irregularities is a bit of an understatement, probably. this is something that should shock people and we need answers now. griff: let me also ask you attorney general barr talking to an audience of lawmakers talking about the death penalty in mass murder or killing law enforcement officers. i want you to take a quick listen. >> this administration will not tolerate violence against police. we will be proposing legislation providing that in cases of mass murder, or in cases of murder of a law enforcement officer there will be a strict timetable for judicial proceedings that will allow the imposition of the death sentence without undue delay. punishment must be swift. griff: punishment must be swift in the wake of dayton and el paso. what are your thoughts, bret? >> you know, the death penalty hasn't been used since 2003. the last, you know, very

high profile with timothy mcveigh that was in 1995, that's not surprising. attorney general barr is a very law and order, wants to follow the law, the law is there. there is no question he is going to want to enforce it. so it's not surprising. i know he has been concerned, also, about, you know, the impression he gets that people are not respecting law enforcement. so i think he is making a strong statement, which is not a surprise with this attorney general. griff: do you support a move like that? this is something the american people become very emotional after the shootings we just had and this certainly would seem, in some ways, to serve an equal justice. >> yeah. i think that is the goal. you know, the death -- popularity of the death penalty has fallen from about 80%, you know, support in the public opinion to about 55%. so you have a situation where, you know, this is not without some controversy. and the cost and the impact

on victims, there is a real division in the country on it. but while it is on the books, you can see that the attorney general wants to support a tough on crime agenda. griff: bret tolman, thank you for joining us today. and we will see. >> thank you. griff: debate i think the country is ready to have. all right. it's the big story in football right now. antonio brown will rejoin the raiders after losing the battle with the nfl over his helmet. former running back career because of his concussion. he is here to react to the controversy. you don't want to miss it. ♪ allergies with sinus congestion and pressure?

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griff: welcome back. quick sports headlines for you. a rod gets robbed half a million dollars in property that is just stolen from the former baseball star. thieves taking several valuables from rental car while the espn announcer was having dinner in san francisco on sunday. one of a-rod's red sox rivals may seek a seat in congress. curt schilling says is he seriously considering running as a republican in arizona. conservatives targeting five seats currently held by democrats. he grew up in arizona and won a championship for the diamondbacks in 2001. pete, down to you. pete: very interesting. well, after days of controversy, oakland raiders wide receiver antonio brown will not be allowed to wear his old helmet this season. ainsley: that's right. brown fired a grievance to keep his helmet instead of wearing the new models mandated by the nfl. approved equipment and does not certify equipment older

than 10 years. griff: brown had threatened to quit but soon changed his tune writing on instagram while i disagree with arbitrators looking back to full health and looking to rejoining my teammates on the field. joining us now to discuss the league's protocol former nfl player and author of brainwashed bad science and plot to destroy football. merril hoge. thanks for being here this morning. always enjoy having you. antonio brown famously difficult in the locker room. is that what is happening here or does he have a point let me use the equipment i want to use when i play this sport? >> i don't know what his point would be because, to understand what the rules are, even the manufacturer shutt won't approve the helmet because it's 10 years old. the important thing this technology in this helmet is 20 years old. the helmets ethics cyst today and he has more than one option. there is 30 options that he has. all players have been told this for the last couple years going to come down to

certain helmets are not going to be allowed. technology today is 100 percent better than the technology he has on his head right now. i mean, so, when you look at helmets back in that day they were meant to withstand impact. today they deflect and absorb impact. i never thought we would have technology like that especially as far as a helmet goes. ainsley: why do you think that he wants to wear a helmet that's more than 10 years old when this new technology would protect him from concussion, something you know all too well about. >> that is a great question. and i think if anybody could answer that i think they would be get an award for that. >> he claims the new helmet obstructs his view. wide receiver, that's his claim. >> here is what is interesting about it. i have used a lot of these helmets. i have been a lot of this technology to understand the technology and what they are doing. actually, the peripheral vision, the helmet is different. that's one thing they have done a really good job of is making sure that the players can see.

so, it's new to him. i mean, and i get it from a player's perspective. i remember having to get into a new helmet and i was uncomfortable with it for a while. none of them would observe as far as his vision goes are going to block his vision or his ability to see things. if you think about it like this, this is what antonio brown is really trying to say. let's say somebody gets their knee blown out and surgery. they opt for train track surgery and put a cast on it for six months and rehab it for a year and hopefully can walk again. that's archaic but that's how it used to be. a scope and rehab the next day. that's the type of technology they are giving him to help protect him. and this is, you know, i applaud the league and the radars and teams that are doing that sometimes you have to protect the player from himself. ainsley: what do you think was happening behind the scenes? he threatened to quit and all of a sudden he is saying okay i'm not going to. do you think they talked him out of it? do you think there was argue an argument? what happened? >> listen, i don't know how it was presented and i think

it's probably more the question is how it was received. because i don't know, there was nothing they could have possibly given antonio brown, i don't think any agent with any value would give him anything to fight on. the equipment itself they are not going to approve the helmet. 10 years old. they are not going to let him even though that technology existed they would have to get him another helmet because it's 10 years old. i don't know what his defense would be or what his particular argument or position would have been aside from the vision thing and that's not going to work. pete: merrill, you wrote about the plot to destroy football the perception of it being too dangerous. a helmet 10 years ago not allowed in the nfl talk about parents concerned about putting their kids into football. the technology has got to be better today than youth sports. >> people have to remember youth sports they have been having since 1990 they have had helmets that are lighter and smaller than high school helmets.

too much information wearing the same type of helmet that is not true. way back in the 1990s they started making smaller helmets the same type of certificate and standards the absorption and deflection type they have. that exists in youth sports today. it's a combination of the equipment the instruction and the protocols that exist in sports today, as long as they exist, which they should, it's the safest environment in the history of sports for kids. we should be running to every field, soccer field, basketball, anything to get our kids active with all the things that are available today versus the archaic ways of 20 and 30 years ago. ainsley: that's something so interesting you say that we did a story i think it was last week, youth participation in sports is down significantly. what do you say to parents who are grappling with that do i let my kid play football? >> well, i think the first thing that they need to look at is what is the biggest issue in this country obesity, sugar conception, inactivity it.

is driving -- we're the number one country in the entire world, not one state or another, the entire world, our youth are more obese than any other country. we have to keep our kids active and activities are a part of not only developing kids with life lessons, but self-esteem and all the things that they need, the activities, the lifestyle that they helped create, sports are vital in that positioning. pete: yeah, in football the ultimate team sport in my mind as well. merril hoge thank you for your time and breaking down the facts. >> you bet. thank you, guys. ainsley: thank you. pete: the video you are about to see is disturbing. nursing home workers taunting a 21-year-old woman suffering from dementia. ainsley: 91-year-old woman. pete: sorry about that. ainsley: that family is now suing and her daughter is going to join us next. ll 25. that's why i take osteo bi-flex, to keep me moving the way i was made to. it nourishes and strengthens my joints for the long term.

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it's so true. all young daughters are embarrassed or young boys are embarrassed when their dad does something like that. i want to be friends with this mom. she seems so fun. she just breaks into it. pete: griff, i guarantee you there is a video of you elm embarrassing your daughter. griff: amy stephens has the beat town. griff: different tone. griff: probably making dinner. things do you every day. ordinary things out of love. then all of a sudden, just feeling the usher jam. ainsley: i'm wondering if she recognized it, if that's the music she listens to or maybe her kids listen to it and said mom, that sounds like the usher song. pete: that move? [laughter] ainsley: i know the child is embarrassed now. she will look back at this and say my mom is fun. griff: absolutely. they happen on a near 24-hour basis in our household. pete: that's going to be a sport later on in life for

me trying to embarrass my kids. i can't wait. ainsley: everyone can relate to something like that. jillian: i think her daughter probably loves that even now with how much attention it's getting. ainsley: we will try to get them on the show. jillian: absolutely. a story out of california right now. a california democrat wants to fight gun violence with insurance. san jose mayor introducing a law that would force gun owners to carry liability insurance or pay a fee. >> we're in the heart of silicon valley, innovation starts here. and we know that this is a crisis that is crying out -- >> the mayor claims the plan would offset the public cost of gun violence. this comes just weeks after the nearby gilroy shooting that left three people dead and at least 12 injured. a potentially deadly strain of algae is being reported along the east coast. at least four states seeing toxic blue green algae blooms in lakes and other

bodies of water. three dogs died after swimming in a pond near wilmington, north carolina. the vet says their deaths were from blue green algae poisoning. comedian andy dicks says he was attacked after a performance. the celebrity known for his role on the 90's sitcom news radio claims he was punch wanted and knocked unconscious outside a club in new orleans. he was rushed to the hospital and is now recovering in l.a. his agent thinks the actor may have wanted to sell video of the attack to tabloids. no one is under arrest. you have to stop what you are doing and look a this photo of these siblings praying before the first day of school. this is going viral and you can understand why. it's the story behind the photo that is truly incredible. the harris family lost their apartment just a day before the picture was taken in louisiana. both parents also recently lost their jobs. despite that the family stays faithful and optimistic saying we pray for everyone. a go fund me page is helping them get back on their feet.

they lost their apartment. they lost their jobs and their kids. ainsley: another family we need to have on the show. bless their hearts. they lost their jobs and their apartment and still teaching their kids to pray. that is so sweet. pete: puts life in perspective. ainsley: go donate on their go fund me page. those precious kids all in their school uniforms. pete: despite life's circumstances parents raising kids with respect. ainsley: i know. to acknowledge god in all things. griff: talk to janice, is the rain coming? make it back to washington later today? >> i think you will. it depends on what time. we can certainly talk about the details of that later on, griff. we have a little bit of mist in the atmosphere in new york city. that has not dampened the spirit of my friends out here. what's your name? >> gracy. janice: where are you from. >> illinois. en gentleman january you are doing a mom daughter trip? >> yes. >> fun so far. >> we have been having a great time. janice: getting into trouble. >> no. >> oh, too bad.

>> what are your names karl and nancy. >> don from houston texas. janice: hi don from houston, texas. take a look at the maps as we tell you what your forecast is in store right now. 74 right now. some shores in the forecast across the mid-atlantic, the tennessee and ohio river valley. some of those storms could turn severe later on today if you live in knoxville and nashville, towards richmond as well as parts of the high plains. still very hot for our friends in houston, texas across the gulf coast and parts of the south. okay, wave to pete and ainsley and griff my friends. ainsley: hi, everyone good morning. thanks, janice. 43 minutes after the top of the hour. the next story is something that you never expect to see. disturbing video showing two nursing home aids aparenting taunting a 91-year-old resident who is suffering from dementia. you can see here one of the aids repeatedly putting a hospital gown on top of margaret collins as she swats it away. the other aid is recording

it with the caption margaret hates gowns. >> two aids were fired and charged with misdemeanor disorderly conduct. now collins' family is suing the home and staffers. pete: joining us now is margaret collins daughter joan bebow and margaret black. joan, disturbing to watch. i can't imagine what it was like to see yourself. first of all, how did this come out? how did you learn of this? >> a former employee of the nursing home saw the video and reached out to our family and my brother sent it to all of us. ainsley: what did the former employee say? did that this happens all the time? >> i can't speak to that. she just said that she was -- she worked with my mom and she loved her so much and she was just really broken hearted that somebody

would do this to her. she wanted to let the family know what happened. griff: joan, my mother is a senior. i have got to tell you, when i saw this video, i became unglued. i would be on the next airplane down there. how did this make you feel? >> when i saw it, it was total disbelief, you know, you are just trying to wrap your arms around what happened and you are disgusted by t and then you are almost in a panic what do you do next to protect her? at a place, at a nursing home she thought she was absolutely safe. pete: margaret, as an attorney, what do you do next? >> well, the family wanted answers. and unfortunately when the nursing home was given the opportunity to investigate this they determined there was no findings of abuse or neglect. it wasn't until the family and police got involved that this was brought to light. and we finally got the

cnas to admit this is what he had had done and didn't have her permission to do it. we are bringing a lawsuit to create awareness that this kind of thing goes on. just imagine that you place your trust in a place like this for 91-year-old mother, grandmother, great grandmother and these cnas befriended her, earned her trust and then they violated that trust. imagine what was happening when the cameras were off if this is what they are broadcasting. ainsley: i can't believe they didn't have the wherewithal to know not to do that a, but then they posted it. it's almost like they thought what they were doing is okay. what's your advice, joan, to folks, all of us who are facing similar situations? we hear stories like this. what's your advice to people that are watching that are debating whether or not they are going to put their parent in a home? >> you have to be vigilant. joan will say -- this family was vigilant. they were there all the time. this still happened to them. you have to wonder for those folks who don't have

advocates and family members. and to all the nursing home staff out there, if you see something like this, it's not okay. you have to say something. and you have to report this kind of thing. many states like illinois have mandatory abuse reporting requirements. if it wasn't for the braveness of this former employee, this family may never have known. griff: let us show you a statement. they say the privacy and dignity of our residents are of the utmost concern at the abington. recently two employees were immediately terminated when it was determined that they violated our standards and policies. joan, i want to ask you very poignantly, is that sufficient, that statement to you? >> no. i mean, they didn't act swiftly they were slow to react. it was a very cool reception. they really weren't, in my opinion, interested in my mom's welfare or the impact that this act had on her and

i would like to say, it's my opinion that this is probably not the first time that this has happened. pete: how do you regain trust? how does this impact on your family moving forward? >> you are always damaged by it, you know. and we did move our mom as soon as we could find a place that met her needs, but, still, to this day, you know, you just feel like she has been forever impacted by this. it was a terrible thing to have to move her, that age, to a new facility. yes. pete: how is she now? how is she doing? >> well, you know, she is doing fine. but i do say that, you know, she has -- will be forever impacted by what has happened to her. she has nightmares.

she went to the hospital after this incident and they tried to put on a hospital gown and she, you know, went into a whole tilt mode over it. so, yeah. ainsley: joan, i'm so sorry. i know you are dealing with so much. it's hard to have our parents get older and have bad health. so, god bless you. we will say a little prayer for your mom. wish her our best. thank you both of you joan and margaret for being on with us. griff: thank you for speaking up. this shouldn't happen anywhere, not in illinois or anywhere else in the country. >> thanks for covering this. ainsley: a new school year means new rules. one district cracking down on when students can use their cell phones. griff: but should schools regulate that or should it be up to parents? we will debate it coming up next ♪ ♪ did you know congress is working to end surprise medical billing? that's when patients are hit with medical bills

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jewish leaders this protest occupying a new york enables migrant detention and deportation. 44 people were arrested. where was the outrage over immigration laws before president trump took office? and are businesses really to blame? joining knee now is attorney mark fitzgibbons. thank you for being here this morning. employees and customers blaming amazon for working with our government as it attempts to enforce the rule of law, how do they handle this. >> good morning,. pete: pete good morning. >> yeah, there is a danger when the left begins apacking businesses. there is a right of association that was recognized in naacp where democrats were targeting members of the naacp. this is a bit of an extension. this is nothing new. but besides the targeted protesters, there is an indesscream that the harm to

not employees and customers. this was targeted at amazon, the corporation, but the protest was held outside of a bookstore so there seems to be this indiscriminate harm to the local business. and i sympathize part of what the protest was about which was facial recognition which is mass surveillance. also targeting amazon's providing cloud services which are good services for good law enforcement. we don't want to harm the good law enforcement. pete: mark, they must think these will work though from amazon to google companies like that. you see employees and others protesting work with the u.s. government while those companies go and cut deals with the communist chinese. so these left-wing protesters are met with companies that are left

leaning. does that mean they will get their way? >> in america, businesses are subject to political pressures, particularly in america and other countries, the government will shut down these protests fast because there is a right to protest. amazon is going to be particularly vulnerable to political precious. they are going tpolitical -- pr. it goes to not just the targeted protest about the issues, but the indiscriminate harm to businesses and their customers. pete: yeah. and suddenly our government becomes the enemy to these companies that have benefited from it. mark fitzgibbons, thank you for your time. we reached out to amazon for comment. we did not hear back yet. we showed you this incredible story yesterday a marine reuniting with fbi agent who rescued as a baby 20 years later. that marine will join us live coming up.

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♪ griff: good morning. ainsley: do you believe in magic? griff: if you're the lovin spoonful. ainsley: i love that song. griff: i never saw it personally but saw it on tv. i don't know if magic is real. i don't think so. ainsley: i have seen magicians do it but there is always a trick. every magic trick there is always a reason why you do it. griff: david copperfield. ainsley: he made a airplane disappear. pete: i believe in miracles, not so sure about magic. griff: talking about miracles, 20 candidates running for president. ainsley: some will need a

miracle. griff: slip-ups on the soapbox, 2020 hopefuls making a push at the iowa state fair. ainsley: democrats are hoping to take home a blue ribbon with the voters in the swing state. who fell flat? peter doocy is live with more. good morning, peter. reporter: the iowa state fair is expected to bs best attended iowa state fair ever. not just all the democrats running for president. "the des moines register" says they have counted at the turnstiles. they are on track for the most people here ever. and that means that more people than ever have seen the stark difference, night and day between the progressive wing of the democratic party and the more moderate wing of the democratic party in person in the first in the nation caucus state. for example, bernie sanders came here the other day to promise tuition-free college for all. michael bennet came after him, say that is an empty promise.

>> i would rather have free preschool in this country than free college. you know what? politicians do talk about free preschool and do talk about free college? because preschoolkids can't vote! reporter: but the biggest crowd, did turn out to see the biggest names like elizabeth warren. she is one of the candidates the most clear how exactly programs like "medicare for all" and student debt forgiveness get paid for, that is, taking every dollar an american makes above 50 million and taxing it. >> when you make it big, really big, super-duper big, top .1 of 1%, pitch in 2 cents so everybody gets a chance to make it in this country. [applause] that's it. reporter: all the democratic attention here on this best-attended iowa state fair

ever does not mean the swing state of iowa is out of reap for president trump come general election time. there are a ton of trump hats and trump t-shirts everywhere you go. we expect to see more of that until the fair is done on the 18th. back to you. ainsley: i'm asking, why are you not on vacation with your dad? pete says, it turns out when you become an adult, you don't always vacation with your parents. pete: sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. reporter: i'm like a stunt double doocy. he will be back when he -- ainsley: at least you're at the fair. pete: he is the young buck. has to work, work. thanks, peter. you talked about the corn jars and, turns out multiple trump jars. ainsley: it was overflowing they said. pete: trump t-shirts. republican going to the iowa state fair and all the democrats show up, they are probably

wearing a lot of trump shirts. ainsley: kamala harris, went to a senior facility, bickford, senior center in iowa. start talking to the nice folks. pete: they are not interrupting their game. ainsley: i already made up my mind. they take bingo seriously. talked to this cute 91-year-old lady, that 91-year-old lady, roberta jewel had to say to this candidate. >> who will pay for it? >> we're going to pay for it. we're all paying for health care for everyone. it is in an emergency room. >> don't mess with my medicare. >> i don't intend to mess with your medicare. i will have health care the way you like it. i won't mess with the health

care that you have. griff: look in the background, the table behind them -- ainsley: not even looking. griff: that senator harris is standing there, miss jewell, is speaking because she is concerned. worried what she is hearing, replacing private insurance with a government-run plan, what she has obviously seen, concerns her, hey, don't mess with this. ainsley: because all these candidates on the democratic side said we'll take away except for bernie sanders, exempt for joe biden said we will take away your health care, your, whatever you have at work. whatever your health care is, this will be "medicare for all." everyone gets to be on the government system. a lot of us like our doctors. a lot of us want to keep our ppos so we can choose our doctors. pete: i don't intend to mess with it. that is precisely what she intends to do. joe biden wants to wait longer. he wants to wait 10 years. they want it more immediate. he is running to the

"medicare for all" crowd. if you want to keep your doctor, democrats told you that lie before, you weren't able to keep your doctor or plan under obamacare, you've seen premiums spike, now hear more grandiose promises. if you're already unsure what is the next day going to look like, where is my health care going to be, you don't want to hear promises after government-run system. democrats have a problem running for this. if you take away something they like, on private insurance, that is a bad sell. that does not work on the trail. ainsley: my mother had a stroke as you all know, year-and-a-half ago. getting her in and out of facilities. had to go to so many rehab facilities. they are expensive, you have to figure out bring her home which we did how much the bed will cost, insulin for diabetes, there have so many things you have to factor in. when you're 91 years old, everything is fine right now. you're in this facility, things are working well for you, you have a candidate that says we might take some of this away

from you, panic, you worry. griff: hearing from you our viewers. here is a tweet from rhonda. i was in the emergency room all day yesterday with my mom, 73. she says leave my health care alone. i paid for it my whole life. i worked since i was 14. pete: email from catherine. i'm 63 years old, with a lot of health problems. my biggest fear a democrat in office taking away our private health care. ainsley: then, libby emailed us said, since when is the government ever run anything right? stop taking away our right to choose what is best for us. pete: bingo. ask a vet about government-run health care. they want it for 330 million people. griff: yeah. talking about the other things, that the viewers may want is free college. free college tuition, will pay all the debt off. there was an op-ed, ainsley and i interviewed this second year law student, ethan ames, here is the "wall street journal" op-ed headline, bernie sanders and

elizabeth warren will never forgive me. ainsley: meaning they never get his student loans paid. pete: he paid his off. spend colleging you wouldn't otherwise pay for because the government will pay for it. ainsley: his story was i wanted to go to dennison college, which was expensive private liberal arts school. he said i couldn't afford that i went to the university of south carolina. i chose a major i knew i could get a job in. i chose accounting. that is not what i wanted to do. i wanted to do political science. he said it was getting so expensive, 17, $18,000 as much as a honda, honda civic he said. he transferred to, in ohio, he transferred to toledo. the university of toledo because, he would pay state tuition, it was a lot cheaper, half the cost, nine, $10,000 a

year. so, he walked away. he had his student debt. he lived a home. went back home for three years. finished in three years. took extra courses. he had to pay it off. now he is in second year law school, actually fulfilling his dream and doing political science or law. his point was, if -- pete: i played by the ruse. i knew i would have debt. so i managed that, paid it off. now they will just go -- ainsley: his fear, all the politicians, sorry to interrupt you, that all the politicians promise to pay off student loans, kids will go to the most expensive schools because they won't pay it off. we don't have the money to do that as a country. griff: sounds good for free college tuition, ethan says, they would actually punish people like him. listen. >> although these policies may be popular with a small subset of, you know, distressed borrowers, you know the american public at large is opposed to them. when i think back to my time at

the university of toledo, all of my classmates there, a lot of students that were there, again were not passionate about accounting but they knew that college was expensive. they knew they would have to repay any loans they took out. so i think that these types of policies punish those people because, they suffered, you know in opportunity costs lost essentially during college making those tough decisions. and now essentially for bernie sanders and elizabeth warren to tell those people, people like me, that those sacrifices are essentially valueless, because we could have taken out as much loans as we wanted. they would forgive them anyway. that is what is particularly perverse about these kind of policies. pete: bingo. the same dynamic with illegal immigration. legal immigrants, i waited my time, filled out the forms, all priorities for folks jumping the line, that are not playing by the rules, that doesn't pay for

me. same said for people that worked hard, paid off student debt, knowing what they signed up for. griff: forgiving the debt, figures of $1.6 trillion. it may be selling a bit after false offer here. because that is really not a realistic option. that, you can't do that without having a plan to do something like that. so forgiving all this debt, i'm not sure that will even come to pass. ainsley: hats off to ethan for being smart enough to question some of these policies. most people you hear, free, free, free. you buy into that. you have to look past that and see how are we going to actually pay this off. he is a bright kid. i'm sure he will do well. no such thing as a free lunch. we were taught in economics. let's hand it over to jillian who has headlines for us. jillian: good morning to you. we're following a serious story. a highway patrol officer is killed when a traffic stop turns into a wild shootout. fellow officers escorting his flag draped coffin in riverside,

california overnight. the officer was calling a tow truck to impound a car, the driver pulled out a gun and began firing. two other officers were hurt in the shootout. the gunman was killed. witnesses narrowly escaping disaster. >> bullet straight in the middle of my windshield, missing my head and my two kids, they were in the back. jillian: officer moyer was the 27th officer killed in the line of duty. he served for three years. he leaves behind a wife. multimillionaire jeffrey epstein reportedly hanged himself with a bedsheet in his jail cell. it comes as we learn one of the people in charge of monitoring him was a substitute. fox news senior judicial analyst, judge andrew napolitano joined us earlier as the feds demand an investigation. listen to the judge. >> question is, was there corruption? did somebody intentionally look the other way? or was there criminally negligent homicide? almost impossible to choke

yourself to death. normal human reactions would resist that. we still don't know how he died. jillian: the house judiciary committee sending a the bureau of prisons of 23 questions they want answers to. houston's top newspaper is demanding beto o'rourke drop out of the 2020 presidential race. "houston chronicle" editorial board writing quote, tom home, drop out of the race for president, come back to texas to run for senator. the chances of winning the race you're in are vanishingly small. texas needs you. the board is urging beto to shift his focus, run for senate against john cornyn. lucky beer lovers, could you have more money spent on bruce. key steen light wants to shell out a year's worth of rent. they hope to win over younger customers of drinking age. the lucky winners will receive $12,000 to help cover living

expenses. ainsley: buy more beer, is that the message? jillian: yep. ainsley: thank you, jillian. griff: young folks buying some keystone. used to be the paper of record but our next guest says "the new york times" has changed more than any news organization in america. ainsley: michael goodwin says it has become a cheerleader for the left. he is on deck. pete you have an opinion on the paper. pete: i do. i will wait for the next segment. ♪ with uncontrolled moderate-to-severe eczema, or atopic dermatitis, you feel like you're itching all the time. and you never know how your skin will look. because deep within your skin an overly sensitive immune system could be the cause. so help heal your skin from within, with dupixent. dupixent is not a steroid, and it continuously treats your eczema even when you can't see it. at 16 weeks, nearly four times more patients taking dupixent

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♪ griff: it is one of america's and the world's best-known newspapers, "the new york times" but in an op-ed our next guest says "the new york times" has changed more than any other news organization in the u.s. he says the paper has become a cheerleader for the left after president trump was voted into office. "new york post" columnist and fox news contributor michael goodwin joins me to explain what happened. >> this latest fight is over a headline that "the times" wrote after president trump's speech on mass shootings in dayton and el paso. the original headline was, something fairly benign, trump urges unity versus racism. griff: this is the original

headline that first appeared, trump urges unity versus racism. but then, there we go. then, it changed. >> that is the first edition. immediately members of the left began to erupt. oddly many of them journalists, denouncing "the new york times" for not calling trump a racist. denouncing him, denouncing the paper for being too nice to donald trump. the editors promptly complied and rewrote the headline to criticize trump for not mentioning gun control in that speech. it, to me was emblematic what has happened there. "the times" has created a monster in that it has to give its readers a daily dose of hate trump every day. if you don't, if you drop the ball on one headline, they will come after you because this is now what they expect of "the new york times." they buy "the new york times," because they believe the paper hates trump as much as they do.

when "the times" doesn't do what it is expected, they go crazy. they're like children at a birthday party, they get the last piece of cake. "the times" has stopped covering news, i mean that has been happening gradually. but under trump it has happened suddenly. but they are now required to hate him on every headline, every story, every page, whether the audience will erupt. griff: michael, "the new york times" has tremendous resources. i confess i look at every every day. i have known good journalists that worked at "the new york times." you said before we went on the air there was meeting about this situation happening yesterday. >> because there are has been so much coverage and criticism of it, "the times" had a staff meeting yesterday which the publisher was there, and executive editor, dean aaquette. looks to me the editor from the

accounts of the meeting is being shamed and feels terrible. almost like he has to go to back to reeducation camp, realize every headline you write must hate donald trump. griff: they write above the fold, all the news that is fit to print. you say it is changing. >> all the news that fits their agenda, what they print. that is what happened. the paper is on a mission as it says. it is mission is to transform america. to elect liberal democrats to every position up and down the ballot. this is who they have become. you mentioned journalists who work there. i'm one of those. i grew up at "the new york times." i got transformative training at "new york times." it is a different paper. i heard from colleagues from that era. that is a different paper. this is no longer the same "new york times" that we were raised on. it has changed. it is no longer a news organization. it is an agenda-driven organization how the to change the country, not to report the

news, to change the country to suit its vision of what america should be. griff: michael goodwin, thank you for being here. we'll continue to keep our eye on it. have you to help us do it as well. thank you, sir. a new school year means new rules. one district wants cell phones out of classroom. should schools regulate that, should it be up to parent? we'll debate it, coming up. hold the phone.

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griff: "fox business alert." stocks are you futures are down after dispointing day on wall street. pete: jackie deangelis on how trade and tariffs are moving the market. reporter: there is interesting narrative on both sides. president says tariffs are good thing, china is paying them. on the other side, the opposition saying there is no evidence that china is actually paying tariffs. we think the consumer will end up paying them. treasury department released data that actually bolsterses the president's argument. treasury saying so far this fiscal year, china has paid us $59 billion in tariffs. that number is up about 75% year on year. to put this in context in terms of total federal income, it is only about 2%, but it is still a pretty significant number. now the 59 billion hopefully will be reinvested in businesses and structure to make the united states stronger and less dependent on china. but of course the fear was that

chinese companies were going to hike prices and u.s. consumers were going to be on the hook for most of it. it doesn't seem like that is happening. remember, china doesn't necessarily want to do that. it can't afford to stop selling things here in the united states. it can't afford a chilling effect. so here is what i'm seeing from the floor. second-quarter earnings are starting to come through. you're not hearing chinese companies say that they're worried about impact on bottom line. that is the important thread of this story. we're taking money in. u.s. companies are not saying they're being hurt by it. so this could be an trade strategy that everyone poo-pooed against, that played out in real time, guys. we'll mare from walmart and macy's this week, there are two big companies that do a deal with china. griff: jackie, thank you. ainsley, down to you. ainsley: thanks, guys. as student get ready to head back to school, one florida district in sarasota is laying

out new rules on students cell phone use. it is sarasota county. the elementary students can have phones but must be silenced and put away at all times. middle schoolers, can use them if it is relevant to the lesson. high schools can use the cell phones between periods and during lunch. should schools be allowed to regulate phone use or is that up to parent. we have larry winget and erica katz. thanks y'all both for being with us. >> you bet. ainsley: erica, you don't have a problem with kids taking sell phones to school, right? >> unfortunately we don't live in the same world we grew up with. if there is incident in school i want my parents to reach me and if there is incident outside of school than to reach them. no worst feeling as parent when you can't reach your child. ainsley: larry, what your thoughts. >> ban sell phones during

schools and home at dinner and restaurants and movie theaters. we banned most states in cars, we have proven you can't drive and have a cell phone on at the same time. this is a distraction. it's a distraction for kids to have them in the classroom too. ainsley: what if you need it for a emergency? erica bring as good point, we're living in a different age, we're having school shootings unfortunately. what if your child is in a different situation? >> they have to dig for it in their backpack? that will happen? i don't buy that. we already proven, betweenaimings of 8 and 17 kids are own their devices online, between six and nine hours a day. that is plenty of time. the emergency argument is really remote chance that is going to happen. like the old days, you called the office if i wanted your kid. >> this isn't the old days. if you're a parent, you ever tried to reach a school, you go

from voice mail to voice mail. it is very hard to reach your child. and as far as thinking that it should be like the old days, no cell phones, just not realistic and if you're in an emergency situation, you need to have that cell phone, you need your child to be able to reach you. ainsley: larry. >> we're playing for the what if, what if this happens what if -- >> it does happen, it has happened. >> i know but it happens on such a small percentage of overall. i do not expect my teachers to be regulating whether they get on this cell phone or not. and use it. besides that, from a practical standpoint, i can tell you right now, if i'm a kid, i'm in class, i will sit there on my phone regardless of what the teacher says, and you know what? most kids will do this they will cheat. in about five seconds i can get the answer to any question in the world on a cell phone. ainsley: that is good point.

erica, if your kids have cell phones, if you have a cell phone would you want to know what kids are texting to each other? do you ton tore what they're texing? >> i don't monitor what they're texing. i give them a degree of privacy. if i think there is something going on, there is something suspicious i have a conversation with them. i do not spy on my kids. ainsley: larry, how do you feel like that. >> i believe, erica i live in idealistic world. i wrote a book. you need to trust but verify. >> i believe great parenting can lead to great kids. i'm very proud of my kids. i talk to them. i try to get them to talk to me as much as possible. i do think that you have to give them some degree of privacy. if you don't, you're not raising them to be independent. we have to raise our kids to be independent. ainsley: i don't know what i will do when hayden that age. i want to know what she is talking to her friends about. is that wrong for to monitor

what they're talking about, especially since i'm paying the cell phone. >> you do want to know what they're talking about. be good friends with their friends. you can't always be listening to everything. if you're always observing, you have their friends come to the house, sit and talk to their friends, you learn a lot about that. ainsley: larry -- >> we need to teach our kids, we need to teach our kids that cell phones are way down the list on what's important. we have a recent study, 22% of millenials have zero friends. it is because they haven't been allowed to interact. i wouldn't pick up my phone right now in the middle of this interview because it would be disrespectful to you. it would be disrespectful to the task at hand. >> that is parenting issue. you have to teach your kids courtesy. you go to dinner, or in a social situation, you do not pick up the phone. ainsley: you both bring up valid points. >> you can but they don't. ainsley: thank you. both of i are best-sellers, you are great parents.

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about epstein's death. among them, why was he removed from suicide watch and were there any surveillance cameras near his cell? attorney general bill barr says the investigation of sex trafficking and conspiracy will continue even after epstein's death. >> let me assure you this case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with epstein. any coconspirators should not rest easy. the victims deserve justice and they will get it. reporter: the fbi was spotted in the virgin islands on monday where epstein owns property. investigators would not say what they were serving for. an autopsy was performed on him over the weekend but results have yet to be made public. back to you guys. ainsley: thanks, mark. jillian with more headlines. jillian: we continue to follow this story. we'll start with this fox news alert right now. a rampage in australia leaving a

innocent woman dead. witnesses say the suspect was yelling allow akbar. the aftermath on camera. this video is disturbing. you can see the 21-year-old man has a butcher knife in his hand. his shirt is covered in blood. he was spotted, stopped in his tracks when good samaritans pinned him to the ground with chairs. he put a milk crate over his head. he stabbed a woman to death in her apartment before wounding another woman. he was carrying a flash drive with. they are not calling it terrorism yet. he has a history of mental illness. "washington post" reporting out of nearly 35 billion opioids sold between 2006 and 2012, half of the pills were handled by 15% of u.s. pharmacies. all of them containing oxycodone and hydrocodone. shira pharmacy in clinton

county, kentucky, purchasing the most, 7 million pills in seven years. that is enough to give 96 bills to every person in the county, according to the post. a teenage surfer comes within inches of disaster in paradise. max was waiting for a wave in hawaii when a shark sunk its teeth in his board. what happened next was instinct. >> fear factor was fight or flight thing. it was flight. as soon as i hit the water. i started swimming. i didn't think about where the shark was. jillian: the teen thankfully was not hurt. how about this story, a man's beloved mustang two decades after he sold the car to pay for his sick wife's medical bill. wesley ryan put the gt on the market in 2004 as his wife battled ovarian cancer. his family saved up for years and finally bought it back. when ford heard the story, flew

the family to michigan and fully restored the car. >> i was in awe. you are talking about corporate america. you talking about one of the biggest companies in world. they recognized little old west ryan out of san antonio. jillian: want to tell you now, ryan's wife is now cancer-free. whole family can enjoy the moment together. ainsley: cool. thanks, jillian. january is is outside with the forecast for us. hey, jd. janice: good morning. answerly celebration day today. where are you guys from? >> spartanburg, south carolina. janice: that is where ainsley is from. >> yes. janice: do you know her family? >> no. janice: like family. what thank you for coming today. anniversary of 50 years of marriage. what are your names. >> susan. >> chris, from tampa, florida. janice: what is secret? >> the lord. >> rejoice, don't complain. ainsley: thank you for coming

today. i love you. the rain has stopped. mostly sunny right now here in new york city. 72 degrees. we will be dealing with the threat for severe storms. unfortunately across portions of the mid-atlantic through the tennessee river valley, the midwest as well. if you live in some of these areas, maybe sure you know what to do, if there is a watch or warning, we could see heavy rain bringing a potential for flash fooding. we'll keep you up to date through the day. say my to ainsley, pete and griff, my friends. hi, everyone. ainsley: so sweet. thank you, janice. we love south carolina. so special. appreciate it. griff: the white house announcing a new policy that could make it much harder for immigrants relying on financial assistance to get green cards. pete: critics say it will make legal immigration harder but the white house says it will save tax dollars. ainsley: larry elder. the joins us to weigh in.

good morning, larry. >> ainsley, how are you? ainsley: i'm great. explain your thoughts about this i understand this used to be the policy. it has not been implemented for a while? >> well, that is what i was going to say. that was once the policy. this administration says, why can't we just go book to that? i kind of thought that people come to this country were supposed to benefit us, not benefit them. our welfare state is bigger than ever. and it is incompatable to have porous borders and a welfare state. it is common sense to say if you come here you ought not be a charge on taxpayers. why is that so controversial? pete: larry, the left will say you don't have a heart. these people need it, deserve it. how do you respond to the inevitable emotional claim that this is anti-immigrant from the trump administration? >> all you need to do is roll the montage of what democrats used to say about illegal immigration. obama, people like dianne feinstein, dick durbin,

bill clinton, all spoke harshly about illegal immigration. harry reid said it was insane for people to allow people to come in the country, have a child, have the child become an american citizen. no sane country would do that. democrat used to say the same kind of thing trump is saying right now. now that trump is saying them, he is harsh, he is unfair, he is xenophobic if not racist. griff: part of the criticism where we are now with immigration, critics speaking about the i.c.e. raids that happened. when you look at it, this traces back to 1882 the immigration act. they have reached back to do this. why should they be doing it right now? >> well, donald trump ran to do something about immigration, about illegal immigration. he ran on that platform. we take in, what, about a million people legally every year. several hundred thousands of people who are here illegally. we have no idea how many people are here illegally. there was a study done by some yale professors, who estimate the numbers at 20 million. this is costing us a great deal

of money. especially people unskilled. one economist from harvard, george borhos done more work on impact of legal and illegal immigration. he said there is no question unskilled illegal aliens take away jobs from unskilled people living in the country, mostly black and brown living in the inner city, puts downward pressure on wages. democrats used to say this kind of stuff. now that trump says it, it is racist. ainsley: we need to tell our viewers, remind them, this does not apply to people persecuted in their countries, afraid they will die if they stay there, claiming asylum, have legitimate reason. >> does not apply to people with asylum, refugees. does not apply at all. people yelling and screaming, does not apply to people seeking asylum. pete: larry, you alluded to the bigger picture, when you talked about open borders, an open

welfare state. you don't have a country if you have borders are open. the president said i have to do something to change the incentive. if you come here, you need to be net productive and contributing to the american dream. >> absolutely. i'm in california, pete, and about $25 billion, one estimate is that california taxpayers spend every single year on illegal aliens and children of illegal aliens a lot of it education and health care, $25 billion a year. and then, around the country, it is estimated about $100 billion. some have it higher. some have it lower but it does cost the country. people need to come here legally. trump has no problem with people coming here legally. republicans have no problem with people coming here legally. it is people coming taking advantage of the system, automatic education, k-12, having a child on american soil, a citizen automatically. we need to rethink this, that is what trump ran on. griff: you're in california. your governor gavin newsom says this is reckless policy that

harms immigrant communities and communities of color. you disagree? >> just slightly this is governor who would like to give health care to everybody up to and including illegal aliens this is a state that allows illegal aliens to drive cars. a state that allows illegal aliens to get in-state tuition, that americans living outside of california can't even get. that is where gavin newsom is coming from. i wouldn't put too much behind that. griff: sage of south-central. larry elder. >> you got it. griff: we showed you the incredible story the marine who was reunited with fbi agent who rescued him as a baby 20 years earlier. we have the marine next. >> we have new information on the death of jeffrey epstein. the story getting deeper by the day. rudy giuliani knows a lot about the jail here in new york. is our guest coming up minutes from now. the trump campaign is here live.

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jillian: good morning to you, welcome back. quick headlines. a carnival cruise ship fails inspection with the centers for disease control. according to a july report, the fantasy had film my water, bread covered in flies and brown water in showers. it was the worst inspection in company's history. carnival says the report doesn't represent its standards. plan net fitness may need a workout after revealing "wall street journal" report. the gym chain could take a bigger hit than most with an economic downturn. the chain's stock dropped 3% after the article debutedded. ainsley. ainsley: thank you. heroic act two decades ago leads to a remarkable reunion. a fbi special agent thought he was getting coffee and doughnuts for his retirement sendoff. instead he got this. [applause]

pete: that is a special agent troy sauers, meeting a 22-year-old marine he rescued as an infant. the agent found the baby in a cardboard box in washington state after he had been kidnapped from the hospital. ainsley: kidnapped! that baby grew up to be a marine corporal. thank you for serving our country and thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. ainsley: you were kidnapped as a baby, what happened? >> from what i've been told from my parents, this lady came into the hospital, posing as a nurse at around 1:30 in the morning. and told my mother that she was going to take me to the nursery. after that they didn't know where i was. pete: can you imagine, your mother wakes up you're not there, no one knows where you are. how long were you missing? >> i was missing approximately 36 hours. ainsley: how did they find you? did they have cameras back in the day, you're not that old, but several decades ago? >> yeah. the agent, special agent troy

sauers found the woman from help with military police at the time and she told them exactly where i was. they confronted her, she told us where she was or where i was. pete: fast forward 22 years. you were two days old at the time. obviously, had you met him before? >> i have not. pete: you had not met him before. you heard about it, what was it like to be there at his retirement? >> it was humbling, to meet like an actual hero. it was a great opportunity for me. i think for the february by get it on camera. ainsley: the best time of your life, you hold your child first time, the child is healthy and beautiful as you are. your mom asks for you and you're not there. i'm sure she was panicked? >> yes. ainsley: what does she talk about, what does she say the day

was like for her? >> it was like pandemonium. why did the lady take you? what was her reason? >> i'm not sure. they never told her the reason. because she couldn't have kids of her own. so she took one from the hospital. pete: i can't imagine the frantic search. every minute, every hour that goes by is a minute and hour less likely you will be found. what did she tell you when she finally found out you were found? >> absolute relief. she was ecstatic. my father was more joyful in that moment. like, as you can see, previous videos you see him crying and thanking god that bringing our family back together. ainsley: that was an answer to prayer. agent sauers, was a hero. served in the fbi too. you as well being a marine. what made you want to be a marine to serve our country? >> being in the military was a thing i always thought of doing growing up really because he had

family members in the military. my father was in the navy. my sister was in the air force. my older brother was a prior marinas well. i thought it was the logical choice. pete: what do you do in the marine corps. >> i mobile truck operator. i transport personnel, supplies, all that kind of stuff. pete: beans and bullets. i like it. ainsley: glad you're reunited. your parents are you a some, raised great kids serving our country. god bless you. pete: corporal, thanks for joining us. >> no problem. glad to be here. pete: more "fox & friends" moments away. ♪ this is not just the flu. it's meningitis b... and you're not there to help. while meningitis b is uncommon... once symptoms appear, they can progress quickly and can be fatal...

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on the death of jeffery epstein and there's new questions how he died in jail as investigators raid his private island. i'm bill hemmer in new york. >> sandra: i'm sandra smith. we're learning new details on the time line of the day. we're learning one guard of was a substitute. the other was reportedly not even a corrections officer. the new york post now reporting epstein used bed sheets to hang himself and left unattended for hours. >> bill: agent now searching his u.s. virgin islands home as attorney general bill barr vows to find answers on epstein's death. >> i was appalled and indeed the