dvr us. if you have a clue what that is, tucker doesn't, i tried it, but that's surprisingly easy. much more agreeable way than bumping into chris cuomo from the restaurant. good night from new york. the man is here, sean hannity. t >> sean: mark, are going to let you and chris fight it out. i'll explain later in the program why i don't think he needed to apologize to anybody.n he needed the apology, in that case. we will get to that. we have big breaking news, multiplele fronts. we begin tonight, we will bring you the very latest on yet another violent attack at an immigration and customs facility. now, if talk radio, fox news, and president trump, according to the left and "the new york times," top fold, front page. if we are responsible for the el paso shooting, we are not sure the media mob, but led by "the new york times," they are going to blame all of the democrats and, frankly,

themselves, for their rhetoric and comparing detention centers to concentration camps, and attacking our brave border agents, and of course, the conspiracy news anchors still have jobs that they donald trump has been talking about exterminating latinos. actually, he said it on the air, it is all coming out. also, bad news for sleepy creepy crazy uncle joe biden. as his bumbling campaign for president keeps getting more embarrassing by the second. later, we will give you a full yeah, chris, who we were just talking about, very intense altercation with a heckler and, frankly, i don't blame him for his reaction. but first, this hour, we still have more questions than we do answers in the apparent suicide of jeffrey epstein. asof you all know by now, epsten was an ultra-rich, well-connected, convicted pedophile. he was facing a life behind bars for allegedly trafficking young girls all over the world. this was being taken up by the southern a district of new york. these are serious prosecutors.

and according to "the new york times" reporter who interviewed epstein at his manhattan mansion last year, well, the convicted pedophile claimed to have a lot of dirt on some powerful people. f'now, his townhouse in the proceeded east side was covered with framed photos of celebrities, bill clinton, woody allen, even the crown prince of saudi arabia. yeah, and epstein told the "times" that he t witnessed prominent tech figures taking drugs and arranging for sex, and epstein alsora allegedly stated that criminalizing with sex teenage girls was a cultural aberration, and that at times in history, it was publicly perfectly acceptable. according to the "times," "many prominent men and at least a few women must be breathingg sighs of relieft that whatever mr. epstein knew, he has taken it with him to his grave." or to hell. wherever he may be. and not so fast. the attorney general barr has vowed to move forward with the

case g against any coconspiratos with epstein, including those who may have helped him traffic in these young girls, and others who participated in any sexual abuse of these minors. after his death, epstein's private island in the caribbean, once dubbed "orgy island," was raided by the fbi. you can see the drone footage captured agents in the island's main structure, as well as other buildings that are on the island, including that mysteriousnd blue and white annx that is on a hill overlooking. the ocean, that was once topped with a gold dome. many celebrities, many politicians -- well, they all went to visit orgy island, where epstein will reportedly throw big parties attended by underage girls. one of those young girls now in her 30s claiming under oath that former president bill clinton visited that island, an accusation he is

denying. she also made some pretty shocking claims about the duke of york, prince andrew. u.s. governor. a u.s. senator. all of these allegations have been denied, but they are being investigated. the main question tonight, who will be implicated in epstein's horrific crimes? who helped himim operate this a sex trafficking ring? and when will justice be served? here now with more, our very own trace gallagher. trace, a lot of news on this front tonight. what do you got?t? >> for those who think timing is important in this case, remember, jeffrey epstein committed suicide just hours after federal appeals court unsealed more than 2,000 documents that concern jeffrey t epstein's alleged rin. the court records are from a defamation lawsuit filed by for junior grew very, who accused epstein of sexually abusing her, and filed against epstein's formerfo girlfriend, who is said to have orchestrated the entire sex ring. the documents also name several public figures that she was forced to have sex with, former senate majority leader george

mitchell, former governor will richardson, and prince andrew. the documents include a photo showing then 17-year-oldpr and a deposition from then 21-year-old woman who said andrew touched her breast inappropriately. prince andrew, famouslyd nicknamed "randy andy" by the british media, was spotted over the weekend attending mass with the queen, reportedly a sign of support from the palace, which issued a statement saying, in part, "any suggestion of impropriety withyi underage mins is categorically untrue." and with attorney general bill barr saying that any of epstein's coconspirators should not rest easy, some believe we will be hearing a lot more from elaine maxwell. >> sean: trace, thank you from our west coast bureau tonight. federal prosecutors, investigators, they have a lot of work out of them, and jeffrey epstein was one of the

highest-profile inmates at new york city's metropolitan correctional center, which has been described as one of the most secure prisons in the entire world. okay, if so, how, then, did epstein die? after all, just days ago, he was on a 24-hour suicide watch after first allegedly trying to kill himself less than a month ago. now, when you have a choice between conspiracy and incompetence, well, i guess always choose the latter. according to initial reports, extreme over time, broken protocol, plagued this particular present. "cbs news" reporting tonight, claiming corrections officers may have falsified reports showing that they routinely checked on epstein's cell. tonight, the attorney general is now reassigned the warden at that prison and placed two of the guards on a leave of absence. but according to "the hill"'s investigative reporter, the executive vice president of "the hill," well, epstein's death was years in the making, a result of massive problems associated with a failing praise and bureaucracy. here now to explain, "the hill"'s john solomon.

as you get your story, i do have some personal perspective here. my mother was a prison guard. she often worked 16-hour shifts. they were mandatory. days, weeks would go by, and they would be working 16-hour shifts. they had a routine. they had to check-in. there was duplication. there was accountability, whether they were doing their job. that i know for sure, but the hours are real, because not many people want to work in prisons, because it is kind of a prison sentence yourself, in many ways. >> absolutely. listen, when i was putting myself through school, i workedd as a sheriff's bailiff, and i moved prisoners around in the courthouse. there are extremely strict protocols, and as long as theree is a good culture of management around you, you can be a very good security guard, a very good prison guard, a very good sheriff's deputy, but what youy find out in the bureau prisons on the justice department, going back 25 years to the last high-profile suicide we had in a present, this right after the oklahoma city bombing in 1995,

very littlean has changed. the bureau prisons andau the justice department is cited dozens of times over the last 25 years for an intransigent bureaucracy that allowed all sorts of safety flaws, all sorts of poor planning to persist throughout the entire prison system. what does that do? that puts inmates at risk, and guards at risk, and it puts the american public at risk. all of these pleas fell on deaf ears. >> sean: how did el chapo go in this prison, and we know he is going to be watched over and taken care of? also, different issues regarding the time that he had been with another prisoner, and who that prisoner was, and when that prisoner left, and how many hours before they actually found him dead. i know michael baden was brought in to witness the autopsy. somebody i trust a lot. i assume they are waiting for toxicology, at this point, before they can have a definitive answer, but it p sees like death by hanging, which is possible, even in an area where you don't have the ability to drop. >> yeah, absolutely.

prison suicides are not uncommon, they have happened in the past, and they will happen in the future. it's really the culture of poor management at the bureau prison that i think is going to come under the most harshge scrutiny over the next few weeks. all throughout the obama years, there were countless warnings by the justice department inspector general, michael horowitz, who we are going to hear from later this week, i think. >> sean: the only thing i didn't catch her little signal. our audience here is to smart. michael horowitz on comey, perhaps? >> i think michael horowitz could be as early as thursday. >> sean: i don't want people's expectations to get out of whack. this is going to be specifically about the documents that wee already knew about, correct? >> that's right. the story that we broke a couple weeks ago on your show. >> sean: john solomon, thought he was going to sneak that in. gregg jarrett sitting here

laughing. thank you for that report. now, it is important to hold all aspects about federal government accountable, and just like our investigation into the investigators, there is going to be a lot more beyond what comesr out this week, perhaps, as it relates to comey and the documents that he shouldn't have had in his house, and then, of course, him being grilledd by te fbi and his lack of candor. it's going to get a lot bigger. it's going to have to do with pfizer and phis abuse and premeditated fraud committed multiple times on a fisa court. and then, did our intelligence community, at the upper ranks, did they r literally outsource that they would be guilty of -- in this country, that would be illegal. in other words, did they have allied countries do the spying for them, knowing it was illegal themselves? we are going to get into all of that as the days and weeks unfold. now, we took our full ensemble cast, also probing all aspects back to the epstein case, that includes judicial watch. they filed a r foia request for information on jeffrey epstein's death. here with more details on that point, judicial watch's tom fitton. i hope they hand it over, and i hope it doesn't take as long as

some of the other information that we have had a right to seea and that has taken a long time to get. >> well, i suspect, we filed information act requests with bureau prisons and the psychiatric prisons on that. audio and visual recording, some of the issues with the corrections officers, logbooks, things like that. you know, i think there are real questions here about how that prison was operated. it's one thing to talk about incompetence. it's another thing to talk about corruption, and all of this reporting we are hearing, by the way, from the media, about what went on, are just reports. we want to see the underlying documents. we have also asked the fbi for their epstein records, and moree foias are coming.

we can't trust the justice department. i know attorney general barr seems like a good guy, but the agency is run byng bureaucrats whose chief job is always going to be to protect the institution and themselves, so you really do need judicial watch asking questions and not accepting the material put out to the media in a blinding way. >> sean: all right, tom fitton at judicial watch, thank you. this night, and each night, we are dedicated to getting truth, justice. but rushing to judgment. we believe in due process,ce the presumption of innocence. but, as we all know by now, the left does not give a hoot about any ofn that. they are willing to pretty much believe anything. especially if they can use ttsomething to bludgeon president trump. no matter how absurd, as long as it advances their sick, twisted political agenda. bludgeon trump every second, every minute, every hour of every day. remember, all of the i-believers during the kavanaugh hearing? i haven't heard any ofll the i-believers as it relates to lieutenant governor of the commonwealth of virginia. he happens to be a democrat.

don't forget about the three year long russia hoax, the lies, misinformation, conspiracy theories, you know, false claims of obstruction, and, of course, yes, roswell rachel maddow conspiracy tv ms dnc, suggesting that trump was a russian operative. i can go on and on. would you really want to trust them? after epstein's death? well, the same people who had o the same group of people that lied for three straight years, the same conspiracy theorists. well, they are weighing in on this. especially among them, the lunatics in hollywood. look at debra messing, the actress, tweeting, "trump killed epstein. he finally killed someone on 5th avenue." big, huge conspiracy theorist, michael moore, the genius that he is. "i guess they think a country dumb enough to elect trump is dumb enough to believe think jeffrey epstein committed suicide."

and then writing, "the can of epstein's worms has been opened. they will be crawling all over some very powerful people. have a nice vacation, mr. president." and then there's actor zach braff, who tweeted out this image, saying "or should we make it look like a hanging line overdose?" patricia arquette also suggesting that barr murdered epstein. and one former "star trek" actor seems to place the blame on russia, russia, russia. when all else fails, go back to that. and these deranged people, theyb all think they know better than you. remember, we are the smelly walmart trump voters, we are the irredeemable deplorables. we believe our god, or bibles, and our religion. we actually pray. oh, my gosh.o and in every election cycle, they do the same thing. they try to tell you who to vote for, they play the race card, they tell you that republicans are racists, misogynists, homophobic, xenophobic, islamaphoic, they want dirty

air, water, they want to kill grandma and grandpa, and they want them to eat dog food, and then we want to throw them over a cliff, but now it's every single second of every single hour of every day. now, ultimately, in the end, the doj under barr's leadership, they will get to the bottom of epstein's death. i can tell you with a straight face, i don't know what happened here. i don't know what he knew, and i don't know who did what. but i do know that people thatid were victims here, they deserve justice and answers. that is what the system is about and what it should be about. let's get to where the truth will bring us. by the way, anybody that assisted epstein, anyone participating in his rampant abuse of children, they all need to be held accountable. here with reaction, fox news contributor, sara carter. authorri of this and now the follow-up, it could have been like russia's second book, i told you so, but it is called "witch hunt: the story of the greatest mass delusion in american political history," ,gregg jarrett. the reality is, we don't know

what happened. we know they hung out with a lot of people. >> of the hollywood crowd might be very good actors, but they are acting like idiots. talking like about something ty know nothing about. which is why william barr has immediately assigned a special investigation toti get to the bottom of it. >> sean: by the way, we've got her mind, i think, our audience, too. the one guy that literally threw epstein out of his life 15, 16 years ago, he kicked epstein out of mar-a-lago. that would be donald trump. >> right. because he got wind that his behavior there was an appropriate towards young women. so he said, you're out of here. but of course, the media and hollywood elite ignore all of that. but look, the already -- the fbi has artie been down to the island. they will be at his other properties, if they haven't already done so. they want to do two things. first, seize incriminating evidence as to other coconspirators. and number two, federal forfeiture laws.

they literally want to seize some of the properties. now, it'll be a battle with those who are filing a flood of lawsuits against his estate for monetary damages, for the pain and suffering they endured in these heinous acts, if, in fact, they did occur. it's stunning to mean that maxwell hasn't already been indicted.ll there were at least six women who were aiding and abetting maxwell, it is believed. >> sean: well, it is alleged. >> right. so they -- it's going to be a rush to new york attorney's office to say, "let's make a deal," and whoever makes the first deal is going to be the best deal. >> sean: well said. sara carter? >> well, federal authorities have suspected epstein for decades. with they are charging with is a specific period of time. mean, was 17 years old. we see her in the pictures here, now that these documents have been released, out-of-court seal, you know, with

prince andrew, with others, this is something that has been happening for quite a long time, and for the first time, attorney general william barr -- and i know i've talked to sources very close to the attorney general -- is dead said i'm going after anybody who associated and who was associated with epstein, and wants a full investigation into this. this is what he said he was appalled that there were these irregularities that he -- you know, basically, they had not seen before. so this is not about an overall problem with the prison system, which we know exists. but this is about a man who is connected to a very, very y,powerful people on a global level, not just in the united states, but overseas, who is now dead of an apparent suicide, and whose information is now gone permanently. at least, what he would have been able to transmit. so now the fbi and the doj have to diligently go through --

ghislaine maxwell is apparently in london. she left the united states somewhere around 2016, wherero they actually began investigating epstein again. so they are going to need to find her. t they are going to need to findng people associated with these people, and these powerful people, who abused young women, possibly young men, we don't know. and there is all of these allegations out there that a lo. of people would not want to go public, so there needs to be a full investigation about what happened inside the mcc, inside that lower manhattan jail while he was being held, because it's amazing that someone like el chapo guzman, who was held to there, and you mentioned about, wasd just fine. and believe me, he had a lot of enemies. so the important thing was to have someone on him 24/7 so that he could not commit suicide, so he did not get harmed, and they failed to do that. >> there are going to be a lotpl of people to be interviewed here they had all the alleged victims. plus, want to interview the employees, all of the workers at his various properties, from the waterfront state of florida

to the island in the virgin islands. he's got a property out west. of course, he's got property here in manhattan. all of the people who werero connected, who could be witnesses that would corroborate this sex trafficking scheme, will have to be interviewed, and then you want to go through all of the documents. you've got computers and emails, you got physical records and notes, diaries, perhaps. financiall transactions that might be important evidence. so, there is a lot of evidence and witnesses to go through here, but i think maxwell's indictment, i don't think -- i don't see how she avoids it. >> sean: well said. last word, sara? >> absolutely. i think what wene are going to e is the attorney general william barr looking into every aspect of what happened in the jail, at the mcc, particularly, i've spoken to sources, looking into what happened with the video surveillance. that's going to be very important. a lot of these issues are issues that can be investigated and

should be made public. >>de sean: thank you both. we will stay on that story. twists and turns and developments as they become available.>> also, when we come back, wow. the 2020 crop of radical, extreme democratic presidential hopefuls, they are in a lot of trouble. kamala harris, called out while visiting a retirement home. we've got the tape. democrats are in an all-out panic tonight about biden losing 's fastball, and his constant blunders. later, i will explain why i will defend chris cuomo. straight ahead. ♪ ms. camus is woman 1: i had no symptoms of hepatitis c. man 1: mine... man 1: ...caused liver damage. vo: epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c. vo: whatever your type, ask your doctor if epclusa is your kind of cure. woman 2: i had the common type. man 2: mine was rare. vo: epclusa has a 98% overall cure rate. man 3: i just found out about my hepatitis c. woman 3: i knew for years. vo: epclusa is only one pill, once a day, taken with

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senator kamala harris. she was calling out bingo numbers at an iowa senior center yesterday, and a 91-year-old resident had some pretty strong all, no private plan, that means no private plan, that means keep your doctor, keep your plan, you are screwed. no matter how that fails, you are screwed. take a look. >> i understand. yes, ma'am. we are going to pay for it. right now, we are all paying for health care services. >> sean: okay, that didn't exactly reinforce what the lady was saying. ouch. and then, of course, the sleepy, creepy, crazy uncle joe biden,n,

he just continues to stumble and stumble and spin in a million different directions. i don't think he knows what he standsmi for. contradicting himself every other day, and then, of course, stepping in it every other second. and while his allies are trying there is a it, ngpanic. all joe being joe, the verbal mishaps are pilingin up by the second, raising serious questions among democrats about his viability. well, let's just put it this way. i would argue that david axelrod isrg right. that's probably the best you are going to get out of sleepy, creepy uncle joe. he is losing his fastball. here are just a few of, well, some of his biggest blunders from the past or present. i think you will find this quite entertaining. take a look. >> if you agree with me, go to joe 30330. and helped me in this fight. i watched what happen when the kids from parkland marched up,

and i met with them, and they went off the hill to go into those neighborhoods. we've got to let them know who we are. we choose unity over division. we choose science over fiction. we choose truth over facts. the words that stunned the nation, and, i would argue, i know, shocked the world. you had people like margaret thatcher -- excuse me, i mean, the former chairman and leader of the party in germany. you had angela merkel. you had this notion that somehow, h if you are poor, you cannot do it. poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids. wealthy kids. black kids. asian kids. mom lived in long island for ten years or so, god rest her soul, and -- although she's right. your mom is still a alive. your dad passed. god bless her soul. chuck graham, state senator. stand up chuck. let them see you. oh, god love you.

what am i talking about? the largest growth in population is indian americans moving from india. you cannot go to a 7-eleven or a dunkin' donuts unless you have a slight indian accent. i'm notdo joking. >> what kind of a chance would a northeastern liberal like south? >> better than anybody else. you don't know my state. my state a slave state. my state is the eighth-largest black population in the countrys >> the first sort of mainstream african american who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. i mean, that's the story. >> they are going to put you all back in chains. >> sean: first mainstream african-american that's clean, articulate, and bright? hang on, stay with us. oh, poor kids are just as bright as white kids. oh. and then, of course, he

thought he was vice president during the 2018 shooting. didn't realize, i guess, that prime minister thatcher has long been dead, and wewe choose truth over facts. this seems to be a little bit of a problem, and democrats are panicking. here with reaction, fox news contributor ari fleischer. along with the author of the new book, "still winning," fox news contributor, charlie hurt. good to see you both. ari fleischer, i think i'm being kind and gracious in saying that he lost his fastball. that's assuming he ever had one, but let's just say there is a huge panic within democratic circles. h as a matter of fact, they are telling me -- and if they are telling me, that means they are telling each other a lot more, well, honestly. >> yeah, sean, that was real fun listening. it was great. >> sean: the "hannity" classic, let's be honest. we keep building these montages, and we keep adding to them as time goes on. it'll get better. >> you are going to have a lot more to add. joe biden's a weak front-runner, and everybody knows it.

he is the front-runner simply because he is the front-runner, and as soon as this field whittles and you get fewer candidates in there, someone is going to emerge, and you know it's not going to be joe. he's kind of like a paper strawa we are a just watching him dissolve before our very eyes. that the biden candidacy. >> sean: that's the harshest ari fleischer ever on this show. i'll stand up and applaud because you are such a nice guy. and i mean that. charlie, i thought kamala harris would have a shot. she has now bought into the new green deal. medicare care for all, no private insurance whatsoever.su how did keep your doctor plan and save money work out? i don't see -- she didn't do well in the last debate.e. and i don't see her opinions going over well with the american people. does that mean we are left with bernie and 1/1024th elizabeth warren? >> i'm still waiting. i think it's very possible that it's somebody that we are not even talking about right now

winds up coming to the lead of the pack, because it is such an appallingly bad field right now. >> sean: speculate who. you want michelle obama to get in the race? >> she has made it clear, as oprah winfrey has made it clear, that they are not getting in. and i understand why they wouldn't get in. but i have to say, and i'm so glad that montage that you did with joe biden, that you went back past the last couple of weeks, because, you know, a lot of democrats say, well, you know, when joe biden says something like that, he is just showing what a real guy he is. no, it doesn't. it shows what a faker he is. and the fact that you can go back to 2007, you could go back to 2000, you could go back too 1976, you can find these gaffes throughout, and they don't prove that he's a real guy like he tries to portray. it proves that he's a faker, and he's been faking it forever in washington. and washington, of course, the only place where a faker like that can survive that long. >> sean: i believe in truth o

over facts, ari. help me with that one. >> yeah, well, t one of the facs and the truth is that joe biden has run twice before, and lost twice before, and that's a a b pretty good sign that there has been steadily something wrong with joe biden when it comes to winning, and i do think that there is a caution here that yoy have to inject. the democratss are going to face the moment where they are so driven to elect someone to defeat donald trump that they will elect whoever they think has the best chance to win. the sleeper that i see out there still is pete buttigieg. he's just as liberal as all the others. he's just as socialistic as all the others. he wants to make crazy changes.t >> sean: the guy can't govern south bend, indiana. his record there is atrocious. >> i'm just saying, keep your eye on him. >> sean: listen, i take you seriously, i do. so there was a shooting in

el paso and dayton, just within hours of each other, although we have 59 shootings this weekend in chicago, nobody talked about that. because they can't bludgeon totrump with it, politically. but he referred to the shootings in el paso and in dayton as michigan and houston. that's not ideal. >> about was biden that did that. >> sean: biden did that. >> i also would not rule out the possibility that biden drifts to the back for a whilele while the others fight it out, but at the end of the day, ari is right. democrats care more than anything else about beating donald trump, and they could end up picking biden because they think he's that guy, and then biden will go on to lose against trump. >> sean: if i'm donald trump tonight, i'm not afraid of any ff these candidates but that's my own humble opinion. thank you all. coming up, disturbing story out of san antonio, texas, today. the fbi investigating shooting at an i.c.e. office. we follow liberal logic, and they blame top radio, fox news, president trump for what

happened in el paso. but to the people that said all these horrible things about i.c.e. agents, and those that said detention centers were concentration camps, using their logic, doesn't that mean that they would be responsible? trace gallagher, dan bongino, geraldo rivera. then i'm going to explain, i know some of you are mad at what i said last night, defending chris coumo, i'll explain, straight-ahead. ♪ straight-ahead. straight-ahead. ♪ ♪[upbeat music]

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♪ >> sean: a distrubing story developing out of san antonio tonight. police investigating a shooting incident at anni i.c.e. office. fox news chief breaking news correspondent trace gallagher live in our west coast newsroom with the developments here. this is scary. these guys work 24/7. there were people on duty, and

yeah, some of them didn't have bulletproof glass, and they penetrated into that office. >> even though it was overnight, you are exactly right. there were people inside the building in that san antonio i.c.e. facility. no body was hit, but officials say they were working, they were narrowly missed, and several windows were broken. the fbi says the location of the gunshots is no accident. watch. >> all of the shots that we have found are on floors where i.c.e. had offices. so this is, no question, a very targeted attack. it's not a secret facility. you can go online, it's public, it's out there. >> one person was apparently held for questioning, butut released, and while investigators scan surveillance video, there is ongoing concern over the potential for a future attacks, with i.c.e, saying, "political rhetoric and misinformation that various politicians, media outlets, and activist groups recklessly disseminate to the american people regarding the i.c.e. mission only served for further encouraging these violent acts." this comes one month after a man

with a rifle attacked and i.c.e. detention center in washington, trying to blow up a propane tank that could have killed many. the man was shot and killed by responding officers. >> sean: very scary. trace gallagher, tonight. also, congresswoman congresswoman ocasio-cortez doubling down on her comments comparing border detention facilities, the ones that griff jenkins went to that had soccer fields and other rec facilities and telephones and tvs, the same facilities that, let's see, had beds and ilts and blankets and pillows and baby formula and medicine and doctors on hand -- and thdiapers? yeah, the one she compared to nazi concentration camps? she is doubling down on stupid, saying she doesn't regret it at all.re somebody please take her to auschwitz and please educate her. this is yet another glaring example of the left's hypocrisyp now, if this were a liberal

program, let's see, we would be blaming the rhetoric of the left for these attacks in san antonio on the i.c.e. facilities. just like we would blame bernie sanders because one of his supporters shot steve scalise and others at a ball field. just like we blame elizabeth warren for what happened in dayton with the shooter there. just like we would also blame democrats for the 59 shootings that the media doesn't care about that happened this weekend in chicago. 59 people shot. one weekend. not a peep out of them. why? because they can't bludgeon and blame donald trump, and if you can't blame trump, why bother talking about it? anyway, joining us now, geraldo rivera, fox news correspondent at large, and als also, former secret service agent, dan bongino. you know what, it's the truth. if you can't bludgeon trump, you don't care about russia, you don't care about obstruction, you don't care about blaming people and politicizing

tragedies. only if you can use the incident to bludgeon, politically, donald trump, and exploit tragedy for political gain. >> i absolutely agree with you. just as i agree with you about chris cuomo, but that's another story. y i don't blame rhetoric for any of these crimes. i don't blame president obama for the massacre in a church there, or for sandy hook. i don't blame president trump for what happened in el paso, or dayton, ohio, and i don't blame alexandria ocasio-cortez for what happened in san antonio. the people who commito these deeds have to be held responsible. people have to have the freedom to say their mind, and to make their points, and to go on in life. we can't be pretending every time someone makes a fiery speech that that is going to now enable someone to go out and commit dreadful acts of violence. i think that's a transfer of responsibility. it's a coward's way out.

we've gotta blame the people who commit the deed, keep the eyee n responsibility, personal responsibility, and stop with trying to stifle people's first amendment rights. >> sean: look at the top old "new york times" yesterday, blaming conservatives, blaming fox, blaming talk radio, blaming the president for what happened in el paso, but they don't apply these same standards to dayton, to the scalise shooting, to the violence in the cities that have been run for decades and rendered by liberal policies. again, it's selective moral outrage. they don't care about the issue. they don't care about kavanaugh. they used kavanaugh to bludgeon trump. they don't go after the lieutenant governor of virginia. it is because he is something interesting.'t

you said media standards in the same sentence, which i had a chuckle because they don'td actually have standards. sean, the idea of a standard is that a standard that applies to both. you don't go in a boxing ring, but this guy gets to go in there boxing. the media doesn't have a standard. they don't call out the rhetoric on the left, and the blame game here the media is engaging in is important, it's being done for a reason. we should never forget. the reason they do this is because they want to engage in a type of heckler's veto. if they can effectively blame conservatives --t not just donald trump, he's a target now, but conservatives in general, for these horrible deeds, they can effectively gain a veto over their speech and get them to shut off. that's what they really want to do, and that's the danger, and the reason you and i refuse to play in the same game against the left. i don't want to silence him. what i want to do is i want to argue with him. >> sean: we are intellectually honest. i said at the time, you can't blame bernie for one of his dopey, nutty, crazy supporters.

does. but they do this all the time. and geraldo, they talk about the rhetoric of the president, you try to lecture him -- with all due respect, there is nobody that gets more of a pounding every single second of every day than him. and thank god he is strong enough to fight back and take it. >> i spoke to him on friday. i spoke to the president. i said, you know, you are causing a lot of your own troubles with some of the language and tweets, and he didn't respond to my points directly, but he didd s, you know, i appreciate your advice. so my advice to the president is to be more disciplined in his language. >> sean: so he should take it from them and not fight back? >> no, he should fight back. he definitely should fight back. >> sean: you wouldn't be able to not fight back, it is impossible. you are telling him to do something you couldn't do. >> that's why i'm not mad atre chris cuomo, and why i am pleased that you asked it.

>> sean: you know why we love him, dan? because he knows i'm right. he could not take that without throwing a punch. >> and we got it on tape. >> sean: and we got it on tape. this is the first time i actually get to checkmate my friendnd geraldo. he would be throwing the first punch in 20 seconds. anyway, love you both. >> my 9-year-old daughter was with me, or my wife. >> sean: exactly, i feel for him. all right, speaking of cuomo, got it in on tape,sp verbal altercation, the man who frankly was wrong in his confrontation. i'm defending him. some of you are mad at him. i will explain why, next. ♪ ♪[upbeat music]

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this video surfaced showing an intense altercation between chris cuomo of cnn at another man who is lobbing insults. he started it, got in cuomo's face. by the way, that's his 9-year-old daughter and wife there. takeme a look. >> don't insult me like that. >> i didn't insult you. >> did you call me a nickname? you call me for no good, you know my name's not fredo. you know my name is not fredo. i'll throw you down the stairs like a punk. you want to call me fredo? take a swing. take a swing. >> sean: last night on twitter, i defended cuomo.. he did not start this, because i don't support harassment of any public figure. especially in front of their children, and their family, and their wife. no person in this country should be taunted because of their political beliefs or opinions,n and with that said, fredo was designed to be an insult.

meaning, in other words, fredo, the corleone family.y. "i never wanted this for anybody aselse." okay? it was an insult. he was, like, the dumb brother in the show. we've all heard those words before. we watch youtube. and anyone feigning outrage, like oh, your precious years never heard these words before -- frankly, you're probably full of it. or if you act offended, you are acting like a liberal who is offended by everything. anyway, joining us now to discuss, i don't think he should've apologized, the author of "swamp wars," number one bestseller, jeff lord. fox news contributor lisa boothe. what's your take? >> i wonder if this is what the left means when they talk about toxic masculinity. [laughter] >> sean: by the way, have you seen the memes on twitter? >> i mean, it's hilarious. selling t-shirts or someone

changes wikipedia yesterday to say fredo, cuomo, i mean, no, i'm with you on this sense. if you're out with your family, out with friends, i just don't think someone should go up to you and heckle you. i don't think that's cool. i just don't think that's right. >> sean: i guess people think that because you are in the public eye -- by the way, i've been through very similar things, myself. i was never called "fredo," though. called a lot of other things. jeff lord -- and i'm sorry, i kind of admired that chris stood up for himself. good for him. >> yeah, i'm totally with you. >> sean: i'm not chris, chris is the other guy. >> i'm sorry, that's right. >> now that is an insult. >> sean: you just said i'm part of a liberal political family. >> i know chris as a former cnn colleague, and, you know, he doesn't deserve this. he's a good person, and i havee to say, i have family and friends on shelter island. i know where this place is. you go there to relax, to be with your family p and friends,

which is what he was doing. this is outrageous kind of stuff that's done to him, and i, frankly, don't care whether it's chris cuomo, or whether it's eric trump, or whether it's ted cruz. this is totally unacceptable. it's clearly unacceptable. and good for chris for standing up for himself. >> it was really lame of him to try to say that being called "fredo" was somehow akin to being called the n-word or for cnn to double down and say that was a slur. particularly when you go back and you look at the amount of guests that were on cnn, and chris cuomo called himself that, as well, so that part is not okay. >> sean: the guy started it. and chris stood up to him. >> true. >> sean: it's over. all right, when we come back, you won't believe -- doug, doug!

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combat climate change and save the earth. guess what? this is coming to your country with thes green new deal. no burgers, no combustion engine, no oil, no planes, no cows. good luck with that. let not your heart be troubled if this doesn't have enough on this network, we have "watters world", we've got "the five" an. how are you, sir? >> i missed "the five" so i'm just making up for it. >> sean: wait a minute, you missed "the five"? >> jesse: there were delays. i don't have a jet like you sean. >> sean: work a little harder. >> jesse: okay, one day -- >> sean: have a great show. >> jesse: thank you. i'm jesse watters in for laura ingraham from new york city tonight. breaking new details this hour in the death ofs millionaire jeffrey epstein. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani is here on that plus.ni