camera adds 50 pounds, even if it doesn't. the joke doesn't get old, even if i do. but i just might outlive you. have a great night. ♪ >> dana: have a hello everyonem dana perino. this is the five. joe biden's campaign gets out of control as doubts creep in about his electability pitch to voter voters. sliding 13 points in a new poll. this campaign is pushing back. is the damage already done? the media is starting to doubt him. watch. >> i think there's a sense that

he could falter and then someone else would have to rise. >> if i were in the biden camp, i would be very concerned about the fact that right now, he's holding his own in the top three against a whole bunch of other people. >> we are used to seeing him not do too well under folks under 50. >> dana: i would imagine that the biden folks say that he still has this commanding lead. >> juan: right now, i think he's up plus seven. i think this is reassuring for biden's team. but also, it's interesting to me, the question about young voters and black voters. young voters, really dead, as you just saw there in that little graphics, i mean, they're

just not excited about joe biden. i think when we talk about crowd size with elizabeth warren, even bernie sanders, you don't see it, and i think you don't even level a passion. it's more like, yeah, i'm settling for him, because i think he can beat trump. the second part of this, though, as black voters. black voters are the key. >> dana: and elizabeth warren hasn't been able to -- >> juan: elizabeth warren is, i think 15%. pete buttigieg has a terrible time with us too. especially looking toward south carolina. it has now sustained biden. >> dana: greg, one thing about these polls is that because the media likes to have a fight, is there anything that shows that there is some movement, it's amplified. >> greg: yeah, and i think that is why joe is out of this

race. i am a part of the media. it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. it gets everybody thing he that the possibility is there. now you have a bernie, joe, and liz warren three way, which is like a sequel to cocoon 2. extra loud and cranky. i mean, it is. it's getting up there. i go back to my theory that you stole from me last week. biden needs to get to a number that's larger than bernie and liz combined before bernie or liz drops out. because, when one drops out, the other absorbs the other like a strange demon. they only become powerful if they are together. he's got to get that plurality

above 40. >> dana: what about elizabeth warren? she's got all these big crowds. he's been nice to her so far. >> that will end at one point. there will be a moment of time by which they hesitated as to who they go to. but it will be elizabeth warren long before joe biden. it affirms a sense that people have that joe biden confirmed for everybody, when he sat in front of a tiny crowd and said, you know, you may not like him, but i think you're going to have to hold your nose and vote for him. he wasn't even talking to the press at the beginning of his candidacy. i should have run in 2016, but it was hillary time, so i guess i'm going to run now. i'm running under the obama legacy, which the party no

longer wants. >> dana: there are a couple tha. i think that we have this tape that we can play for you. this is, remember, beto o'rourke, he still in the race. let's eat. do we have it here? they want me to read it. beto o'rourke though, he has been marked for this. it was about cooking burgers. i think that people have a lot to say about it. watch. okay, so, what do you think about that? >> greg: i did when the championship. first of all, where's the grill? second of all, you put it on the english muffin? dana: i kind of like that, on a english muffin?

>> yeah. only at breakfast time. >> dana: he was getting in a workout. emily, will have your comment on this. he's got to hit the gym. >> emily: yeah, i found that painful to watch. i'm not going to lie. can i make a couple comments? it was a little awkward for me. if i could make a couple comments just on the biden thing. i think that it's becoming quite clear that he is the start or nominee. he is who everyone came out of the gate supporting while they figured out which candidate resonated with them. regardless of the, there is a trend. a real clear politics trend. it's clearly decreasing. interestingly, the head of the

institute for pole and came out and said, look, yes, i acknowledge that this latest poll shows that he still had in iowa. but, i didn't meet one biden voter who was excited about voting for biden. >> dana: there is excitement around bill de blasio. would you like to see some taping of him? >> greg: no. i do not like him. thus the phenomenon where a robot or a humanoid creature resembles a resemblance to a real human. robots who don't look human freak us. that's what beto is. he's almost, but not quite human, because he keep delmont keeps trying to mimic the behaviors of humans. he's a humanoid robot.

trump is the best at it. >> juan: what has beto done before customer changed a tire. we all know that social media drives politics. >> greg: trump is the master. >> dana: this is social media. this is an actual interview from bill de blasio. watch this. >> you were elected to be president, you would be the tallest president ever. abraham lincoln currently holds that title. he was 6'4". your 6'5". >> i think three times only. there's only three exceptions in the history of the republic. if you want to get rid of donald trump, who is the tallest candidate? >> speak all right. >> greg: all right. all right. every president but one has been

white. so, you should have a white president, because every president has one except for one, who is white. that's how we are going to look at height as him in the future. 14 years ago, there are going to play this video and say, "my god, that's all they talked about short people?" you have height privilege. >> juan: is that right? let me just say, how come you don't pick on trump? >> greg: that's great. he's not drunken. bill de blasio was joking. i don't believe that beto o'rourke actually likes cheeseburgers. >> greg: he is a cheeseburger. >> dana: i've got to run.

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♪ >> greg: are you talking to me before the monologue? all right. "the new york times" is outraged that a trump affiliated group is exposing old tweets made by a staffer. i agree with their concern, except that if there journalists to the same thing to you, they call it journalism. yes, the media hasn't thought twice about using words to cancel the careers of anyone

outside their political world. they will use just about anything that by today's standards looks problematic. but it's hypocrisy. they call it "scrutinizing people in positions of power. "seeking to harass and embarrass anyone affiliated with a lead news organization. they use it and abuse that as they see fit, pushing on ideology that holds you in disdain. this should worry anyone who cares about independent journalism. but why? certainly, journalists should welcome to scrutiny. or is this the kind of power that they hate? maybe it's time to get the gander what they've been doing to the goose. targeting them what with what e

been doing. maybe that forgiveness should be applied to all of us, not just those working at the times. you know, pete i hate this stuff. i hate going after people for their little tweets and stuff that they did ten years ago. i think it's gross how they cancel people. i would rather just have a blanket, let's forgive everybody. but we can only get there if we do this. if we have the journalists feel the pain. >> pete: you, i'm with you all the way. what i said 5-10 years ago. you live a different life. there is context to everything. >> greg: you were horrible back then. >> pete: you probably will. but you are right. until the double standard is gone, you can't get to that zero spot. the media, they always give

themselves a fancy nickname to hold up their pillar of society. they put framed political issues in our country. the times basically exposed journalism. i love this effort. send it right back at those journalists who stand on their moral high ground and pretend that they are the judge and jury of everyone else who jumps on their way. >> greg: i love it. you know, one, it seems to me that their message is that journalists can ruin lives, we r lives to. >> juan: i agree with you, but i just think of the context here is off. i think that what we are looking at here is, are you harassing journalists? are you trying to intimidate journalists question right >> greg: these are public tweets. see five well, they are public.

he's the president of the united states. people look at someone who is running for president. ha, there's a reason for doing this. but if you are saying, look, i think the times editor said something awful in a bar to a woman. i think that's a level that's intended to intimidate and harass. >> greg: i told you i'd stop. >> juan: i say. c. this is about harassing conservatives. that's a limited view of the idea. you had a real argument, which is well, if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander. now it's an ideological thing. >> greg: the gander is the conservative, and the goose is a liberal.

>> juan: he wants to cook another goose. >> greg: i'm tired of being goosed. remember when cnn went after that woman because she retweeted a russian bot? he had a meme with that was pushing around. >> dana: the guy lost his job. >> greg: yeah, the guy lost his job. >> emily: the free press, the concept of it, absolutely is sacred. so should neutrality. so is credibility. we should absolutely hold them accountable, because why should i take as credible or neutral, the senior editor who sent out anti-semitic tweets? i was so uncomfortable reading this. for me, i don't think there's any room for a lack of that culpability, calling someone

out. it's not harassment if you are showing someone what they did. they are expecting you to rely on them to accurately cover our government and our politics. to me, that's the disconnect. see five i think that's fair, but i would say that what would they are doing is putting out journalism. you should judge their journalism or journalism or so. >> greg: that should apply to everyone, dana. correct? >> dana: correct. >> greg: thank you. >> dana: everyone gets a choice about what you are going to put on social media. think about it. if you decide, you can decide to have something on twitter or facebook or whatever that doesn't have to do with voicing your opinion that are going to come back and hurt you later. you can promote things, retweet funny things. you don't have to always comment on every -- >> greg: but the thing is,

what got this guy into trouble and what gets everyone into trouble is edgy humor. the whole point of it being offensive is -- >> dana: but people have lost their entire livelihoods. that's when i say, remember the woman who was from tennessee. a congresswoman. she commented that she thought that the daughters of obama, their outfits were not appropriate. she lost her job. >> juan: 20 years, forget about it. >> greg: all right. we've got to move on. actress, lori loughlin, back in court after her legal strategy backfired let's do it. ♪

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husband are back in court. now they are facing questions about their strategy in a college admission scandal. they could both end up in prison. the couple has pled not guilty. dana, they have the same legal representation. but, of course, this could lead to conflict, because one could have information or reason to blame the other in this case. >> dana: right. they'll have to figure that out. there's two actresses caught up in this. there were 51 defendants total. about half of them have pled guilty. this includes hedge fund managers. >> juan: you're talking about felicity huffman. >> dana: this is a widespread problem. >> pete: all i want to see is equal justice. you want to see them treated in the same way as everyone else.

speak >> greg: i don't. what's the point of being famous if you can't get special treatment? [laughs] >> emily: a quick note about the conflict. we have 28 defendants headed to trial. nine have already faced the same thing in court, which is that they go to court, prosecutors might say that look, we still want to say with the same attorneys. laurie and her husband, they each have their own attorneys, in addition to their joint ones. it's frankly, not that big of a deal. but moving forward, i think the bigger thing is the sentencing, which is september 13th. when she gets sentenced, that's going to be huge. >> juan: all right. johnson & johnson appealing the

hearing in an opioid lawsuit. $500 million, saying the company helped fuel the opioid crisis. "the wall street journal" editorial board is saying johnson & johnson is being used as a scapegoat for addiction. the ruling creates a slippery slope for more product liability losses. what's the problem with holding people accountable if, in fact, they were pushing opioids and leading people to become addicts? >> greg: i don't think this is a logical explanation of the problem. you know, conservatives don't punish legal gun use. but that's what we're doing with pain medications. it's inconsistent. you don't punish patients with medical problems because people are abusing drugs. the media does a really bad job on the story. we have to remind ourselves of

the fact that pushing those overdose numbers, primarily due to a mixing of drugs. they are mixing opioids with other drugs. more people have died from other common medications than pure prescribed opioids. this isn't a prescription problem it is a street problem. trump has some how pushed on this, would you favor your cheap goods, your cheaper iphones and have 16 to 100,000 people die, or would you rather have higher quality goods and stop the influx of drugs in our country? human beings tend to ignore tragedy for goods that are near them. it forces them to pay the piper, so to speak. emily, i'm going to respond with a question. they have settled some of these lawsuits. the reason is that there was

evidence that they were pushing these drugs aggressively on doctors, without indicating the agree to which they were addicted. they were saying, oh, this is less addictive than other dogs. it turns out, it was pretty addictive. >> emily: they didn't admit culpability. the core of the judges ruling is that they had an unbranded marketing campaign that was totally at fault. they said, the judge ruled that the branded element. people were lined up out the door. they provided faulty data and said, pain management is being undertreated. the, there is no risk associated with opiates. johnson & johnson led a concerted effort to literally change medicinal policy.

they also changed government regulations so that hospitals would push those prescriptions. all of these big farmers are facing different results. i think this is a good one. it is >> greg: everything that e said is wrong! >> juan: you want your opioid now? >> greg: i've already had it. >> pete: listen, i think litigation nation is out of control in this country. you reemphasize this over the rule of law. patients are only supposed to be able to obtain these drugs through government licenses. doctors are supposed to be paying more attention. johnson and johnson constitutes less than 1% of oklahoma ' s prescription drug market.

all of the drugs were approved and had warning labels on them. they maneuvered around that. i do think that you can go too far and you can start to stint what these drug providers have done. >> juan: he raises an interesting point. one of the arguments was that people anticipated that the judge was going to have a billion dollar fine. >> dana: they were asking the judge to have a $17 billion payout. i think one of the concerns is, there is a problem that some prescription drugs in america are very, very expensive. the only way to get that down is for more innovation to happen, but it takes a lot of money on the front end in order to find that innovation. believe me, if they could find a way to alleviate pain for people without having to use opioids, they would do it. we have a free market. in some ways, we are barking up the wrong tree and trying to get money paid what are you going to

do with that money? are you going to get drugs off the street? if they do mix the drugs, then, who is at fault? why do people feel like they need to have these drugs? why are they doing it in a way that harms them? it is hurting other people, because doctors are now saying, "oh, i don't know if i should do that. try to take a tylenol or three advil in the morning." >> juan: you think we should be doing pharmaceutical renovation? >> dana: absolutely. >> greg: and the thing is, these drugs are the consequence of innovation. the reason why something gets abused is that it works. nobody abuses things that don't work. these actually have a direct benefit to patients with cancer or other chronic pain conditions.

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>> greg: burn it down. real fake news spread on twitter, calling for a boycott of the restaurant chain. dana, i'll start with you. you hear this expression, which is actually more common than we think. i also hear it from conservatives, who say the last two days so far left, we have irreconcilable differences. there is no room for compromise. >> dana: sort of feels like it right now. the interesting thing about the republican party is that its demise has been written about over and over again. it's actually probably the strongest that it's been in quite a wild. president trump has a 90% approval rating with the republicans. you could wish it away. you could hope that it goes away, but it's not going away. i think there's a lot of wasted energy on that. >> greg: burn it down?

where does that fall on your level of acceptability? >> juan: i don't like the rhetoric. it can be interpreted in the way that you are taking it as literal. >> greg: i don't think it's literal. it's us against them. >> juan: you have a lot of people who fit in this category. now, we have bill well and other people running. the question is, the current g.o.p. has no appetite for confronting trump on anything. we are seeing a record number of retirements among republicans right now. where are the people who will say, "mr. president, we are a free trade. you are not keeping with republican ideology here."

>> pete: greg, you went on to mention for people. jennifer rubin is a conservative. >> greg: yeah, i have yet to hear anything conservative come from her mouth. we have to point out the obvious. she is undergoing on unraveling which "the washington post" is enabling. her ego is not allowing her to admit the emotional damage that has incurred on her after she got elected. it's like a friend of yours who just got out of a bad breakup and lost a job. they are blocked by their own refusal to move on. it's people like her in walsh, from. they also all have an emotionag that they need to let go of. you have to ask, what type of person is attracted to this type of outrage? if you find yourself tweeting

about all of garden, you need someone positive in your left, because there's something missing. if you find value in boycotting a restaurant that is run by employees who have kids, your life is empty. it's actually a positive thing to realize that your life is empty, because you can do something about it. [laughs] i'm boycotting all of garden for the carbs. you're missing out. >> pete: jennifer rubin or olive garden. speedy domains before all start with her. i think it was ridiculous that she was given a thought form. the republican party, she said was essentially for an antigovernment platform, that everyone would suffer if we limited the government. i find that so disheartening that she wanted to get into the actual points of the argument, which is that the government is

laced with bureaucracy and inefficiency. i saw people suffering all day because of that bureaucracy. not because we would take away programs that people depend on, which the republican party is for. she talks about the radicalism. yeah, that's what happens when you get away from tyranny and find found this country on principles of. 60% of people have not participated in one of those boycotts. the number hasn't changed for the last couple years. this hot topic of boycott the trump staff. >> pete: in the olive garden case, it's totally fake news. >> greg: yeah. if you're spreading a rumor that damages somebody, you should be liable. >> dana: people who support president trump should go to olive garden. >> juan: to point the finger at the social media people, if

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>> if you are thinking about unplugging for your next vacation, you should probably leave it at home. it turns out, our selfie x x, obsession. other top tourist spots, overrun with instagram influencers are banning people out right from snapping pictures. okay, dana. >> juan: thanks for correcting me. >> dana: nobody needs an entire of minutes to take a picture of the mona lisa. you go there to actually see it. you can buy a picture postcard of it if you want to. but don't take up people's time taking a picture at the museum. >> greg: she did it herself. that's why it's so bad. women back then weren't allowed to paint, so they had to take male names.

his real name was gladys thompson. >> emily: in seattle, there was a super rare place. everyone went there to take their selfie. >> greg: look emily, the tree had a good run. trees live too long, let's face it. they hang out, they never go anywhere. they're probably tired of the view. [laughs] >> emily: it's running everything. that's why everyone is traveling everywhere. there is no more real curiosity. >> greg: they're not going to see the mona lisa. they are going to take a picture of their self. >> dana: they are going there to show people themselves. >> pete: i was wanted a picture. it's not about the beautiful view anymore. it's turned into, now i want a picture of myself with a beautiful view behind me. >> greg: did you ever take a

picture somewhere where there's a crowd and you see someone in the crowd that you know? >> dana: no. you see people doing not great things in the picture. speak to, like what? >> juan: i think you're onto it, pete. i think people do this because they want public affirmation for the selfie. people say, "man, you were in paris? "i think that, they are not present in the moment. they are not looking at the picture. they are not experiencing it. on a personal basis, they're not with the person they are one with in terms of their relationship, or thinking, this is a very fulfilling moment for me. none of that. this is all about the selfie. this is disruptive. >> emily: quick question, you guys. we have rules limiting a minute of the mona lisa. is that overregulation?

>> dana: look at the exhibit. do not take pictures. >> juan: if i say anything, he's going to punch me. i'm out. >> emily: growing up, i went to yosemite every year. it was amazing. and now, it's basically getting destroyed. so i feel like, to preserve it. -- >> greg: overrated. one more thing is up next. p you quit slow turkey. along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. with chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting. chantix reduces the urge so when the day arrives, you'll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye.

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before she wanted to have it as a souvenir, but she didn't know that removing property from a national park is a federal offense and she wanted to do the right thing, the park appreciated her actions and that can help other people learn something. did you know that? >> emily: what is the phrase? >> greg: they should have gone to her house and arrested her in front of her family. time for this. animals are great. animals are great. a belgian is more of the most amazing police dogs. they are the most athletic dogs in the world and they can hop

over everything including buildings, they are intelligent, athletic, much like pete hegset pete hegseth, they can grab any things that run away from them, if you see a child running away, they will go get it for you. >> jesse: that is remarkable footage. >> dana: you are kissing up to him today. >> juan: take a look at this, pretty incredible. this dancer in the tracksuit at the mtv video music awards, she was invited by missy elliott to perform one of her big hits. take a look at this video from 2002

2002. that is the same dancer, alyson stoner, in the second video, she's just nine years old and you can see her dancing and missy elliott's video for the song "work it." she has become an actress, singer, dancer, choreographer, she and missy elliott remain friends to this day. friends and talent do count. >> pete: when i was nine years old i always wanted to be a world champion, never worked out on the basketball court or the football field but this morning i became the world champion fox and friends grilling champion. >> greg: what was your meat? >> pete: we can cook whatever

we wanted, everyone went with fish and vegan dishes and chicken and i went what does america want? i went with montreal seasoning, usda prime beef, the viewers voted and in a landslide. >> emily: yesterday i had such a special day, i had the honor of attending one of my best friend daniel peterson retirement ceremony. he wanted to be a marine growing up since before we were nine, i learned more about the military than most adults because of him. through his 23 year career with the united states marine corps, he went through 11 deployments and protected our freedom every day. congratulations, thank you for your service, it was an honor to watch your dream unfold for the

last 30 years. >> juan: what is he going to do now? >> he's going to work as a civilian for the same unit, he's not going to go very far. >> dana: "special report" is up next. >> bret: volatility in the trade war with china, is it hurting america's businesses? one day after talks seemed possible, between the u.s. and iran, that president says they cannot negotiate until sanctions are dropped. this is "special report." ♪ welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. president trump insists conversations are continuing with china about restarting trade talks. the chinese are saying they haven't reached out as has been