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giving up information on powerful people and epstein surrounded himself with like the prince who was seen after he was labeled a sex offender. >> sean: trace gallagher very disturbing. the video.why give him a sweet. we will never be the hate media and let not your heart be troubled, laura ingraham in washington i know you have a big show. >> laura: fantastic show tonight, sean and waiting for the ig report. thank you so much i am laura ingraham the "the ingraham angle" and we are hours away from what we expect to be the first of many doje inspector general reports looking into the corruption and the obama deep state. the fisa courts, all of it first on the docket a previously unknown report on jimco comey conduct written by i.d. mike borowitz. rudy giuliani and dan bongino will be here to respond.- two weeks after epstein suicide sean talked about this, but why does alan dershowitz now believe
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he is a victim of the me too movement. he is here to tell us about ite. plus, an active stress has been cast to play michelle obama in a new showtime series. but who might play the other first ladies? and "good morning america" succumbs to dance in twitter mob, raymond arroyo will be all over it from "seen and unseen." but first from burlington tot beijing, that is the focus of the first of tonight's angle. in the media world that we live in with candidates hopscotching and across the country making multiple appearances a day, it is sometimes easy to miss the most revealing moments. case in point, speaking to the hill, bernie sanders praised china. >> if i'm not mistaken, they have made more progress
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in addressing extreme poverty than any country in the history of civilization. they've done a lot of things for their people. >> laura: [laughter] yes, they've done a lot of things for their people all right, bernie, including the ongoing brutal violation of basic human rights. crushing political dissent, all of it, bulldozing churches, and interning a million muslims and controlling all information and media. the prc even enforced a one child policy. senator sanders, you know about that, by physically dragging women to abortionists. and people say, well, trump has said some nice things about china, too, but that was in the midst of trade negotiations. but, bernie sanders, he wanted went a telling step further ande poverty. of course, he left out that it was largely through a brazen 20 year stretch of cheating on trade. and stealing our intellectual property. but it really shouldn't be all
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that surprising, i guess, that bernie has a soft spot for the chinese thug. socialism ultimately leads to more power for the state. and less power for you and your family. from what type of car you will drive toto where you set your thermostat and how you will even be allowed you to defend yourself. heck, if they have their way, they would penalize you for having too many children. and wasn't bernie the guy who honeymooned in the soviet union and even praised breadline? >> sometimes the american journalist, people lining up for food. that is a good thing. in other countries, people don't line up for food, the rich get the food and the poor starve to death. >> laura: p so ration cards and justice for all, okay. republicans, though, must remind
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young voters there is no such thing as free health care, free college tuition, for universal pre-k or income inequality. it is all a scam. all it does is to grow the government and your dependence on it. andnc the green new deal, it all sounds so clean when you consider what you would have to trade for it. your freedom. and that is when feeling the burn becomes a socialist sting. >> oh! [laughter] >> speed bag meet windbag, and that is part 1 of the angle. and joining me now with reaction, judge jeanine pirro, host of justice withit judge jeanine andd author of the fabulous brand-new book "radicals resistance and revenge: the left's plot to remake america." also with me is chris hahn former aide to senator chuck schumer and progressive podcast. judge, congrats on the book.lovt
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today. obsessed bernie. he's obsessed with the communist regime. and the top of the 2020 democrat heap so what does that tell us? >> what it tells us is there are a number of young radicals who have been educated by radical professors whoe. are actually buying into this stuff. the truth is, he loves venezuela left socialism until that went to hell in a handbasket. he wants to bring it here. the amazing thing, he was the first democrat socialist to run for president but now all 20 or whatever number is left, they want to implement socialist policies and free health care free everything. basic income. they are absolutely convinced in the end of the rich will pay for it but this guy cannot do basic math which is no surprise since he never had a real job. and they can't possibly pay for any of the stuff. the bottom line with bernie sanders ishe that there s
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no such thing as democrat socialism unless it is just socialism for the democrats. you know, maybe they will buy into it but america is not going to do it. >> laura: chris, do you agree that china's approach and bernie was saying they are bernie's approach to reducing poverty is something that we in the united states should admire and perhaps even emulate? t >> no, i don't. and i think that the united loud, clear voice clear voice address china's human rights violations, especially if they act negatively in hong kong in the coming days and weeks. i have not seen that from this administration. as for socialists, and i heard the argument, judge jeanine talking about that. i can think of nothing more socialist than a presidentni telling u.s. companies where they can or cannot do business. that is the definition of
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the government intervening in the marketplace. >> laura: it is also the law. >> something bernie has never been able to accomplish in his life. if the president ever uses that law and that is there to stop terrorism, not a trade war, but if the president uses that law and the market willth collapsed he should be careful. >> laura: what do you call chris, by the way, china's rampant and deadly exportation of the substances that go to make the most deadly of opioids fentanyl, going through mexico coming to the united states. that is kind of a weapon of mass destruction, is it not? they know what they are doing, they're killing tens ofas thousands of americans with the fentanyl component and it's arriving in the united states. with the idea china is cheating i think trump is making an offhand comment there, pretty t deadly. >> you know what, laura, i think we should be very tough with china. you are absolutely right. the president telling where they
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business where they can or cannot do business socialism, communism >> laura: he is a socialist. >> he is not a capitalist. he absolutely is not. >> laura: jeanine. >> the bottom line china is conducting business in a way chris, that is hurting americans. when fentanyl that comes to this country and killing the americans. >> laura: where is bernie on this? where the heck is bernie about this? he is focusing on to help poverty and look at what they have done and they've done more than i anybody else. >> that's good, lawyer ram air good. >> raymond is better. >> you know what, we are in violent agreement on china. >> laura: bernie, bernie is like the roads are nice, the airports. but come on. stay right there, judge jeanine and chris. time for my angle part 2. aoc's climate change. i have some bad news for you. aoc has insomnia. and she thinks this one thing
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should keep you up, too. >> you know, when i was on vacation, i woke up in the middle of the night at 3:30 in the morning just concerned about climate change.glaciers are mela levels are rising. >> laura: i have a question, does that boxed mac and cheese that she was making come with a tinfoil hat? bernie with his comments about the chinese, aoc's late night musing the true agenda off the climate change crew. >> this is not about justputtins roofs, this is about changing the consumption. this is about living our whole life in a way that is more sustainable and inhumane. we are not trying to end cows and plane travel, but we need to change our lives. >> laura: there you have it. as i told you part 1 of my
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angle, this isn't about science. it's not about facts. this is really about government controlling almost every aspect of your life. but, the liberal elites won't change their lifestyle under the system. they will not change their lifestyle one iota. in any socialist state, the very rich way of the top and the stooges and government who dictate the terms for everybody else. then, there is puny, beleaguered middle-class, and the rest are the poorss people. leonardo dicaprio, he is still going to fly to movie shoots on a g5. >> you think overhauling our economy to decarbonize and fe try not organizing the economy and allowing sea level to rise every coastal city to go underwater every midwestern city experiencing drought on a level that we have not seen.
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that is going to be way more expensive. >> laura: that means the obamas will be way out of their house in martha's vineyard,w! too. wow! don't sweat the $93 trillion price tag for the green new deal. it will practically pay for itself.at now, where have we heard that before? and that is the angle, part 2. all right, back with me judge jeanine pirro and chris hahn. judge, your take on the late night mac and cheese musings of aoc. i mean, i don't know, was she in full makeup? she looked good and very excited about, you know, this big power grab for the american people.th. >> i can even focus on what the woman looks like. i'm so stunned just listening to what she's saying. but listen, here's the bottom line.ke isn't she the one that said the coastalng cities will be melting
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and fall into the ocean and the ocean will be destroyed in 12 years. so why spend $93 billion on the economy, hell.go out and have a. >> laura: trillion, jeanine, trillion. >> there's another piece of this nething. basically, shens is saying the insects will come out and kill us, well the glaciers will not melt until we are underwater so what is she worried about? the amazing part of this thing is when she came out with this $93 trillion deal to destroy the economy, she says we want net zero admissions and only net zero because the cows have flatulent and flatulating or fartng or whatever, and then she says the next day, you know what, we really don't need to eat hamburgers for breakfast, lunch and dinner. >> laura: chris. >> you're not going to tell me what to eat. >> laura: chris, here's the deal.ri it is a hard to tell people, you have to lower your standard of a living. you have to radically alter the
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way you move and the way you live because i'm telling you nebraska is going to be in severe drought. the east coast of the united states underwater. i just think nobody will sign onto radically altering their life because the rich won't. they won't. and neither, i bet, will aoc much. >> well, you know what, i have less concern what a first-year congresswoman says than i do when the president of the united states who skipped the climate change meeting after the g7. >> i'm glad he skipped it. >> me, too. >> and climate change, which really there is a problem affecting this climate. maybe her ideas are not the ideas that we will go with, but we have to start working at it. the president seems to deny and we are wasting time. that is why he will be gone in a year and a half. >> laura: chris, why do all your answers come back to donaldat trump? we are talking about aoc. she is a wack-a-doo.
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a conspiracy that we are dealing with here. >> she's a first-term congresswoman. >> laura: so what she's in congress. don't write her off. >> let them put it out there. >> laura: guys, come okay. >> an individual member of congress to put out ideas and that's what she's doing. enter come to add to those ideas >> laura: chris you are writing her off. she is the closest to a thought leader in the democratic party today. >> laura, she is the democrat party. >> laura: we've got to go hold on. time for my angle, part 3. okay, something i'm diagnosing as california's fervor. as we have been documenting this week, the human and economic toll of homelessness is overwhelming cities like los angeles. >> you see outside of the back door of the gym, there are really a string of homeless encampments, garbage-covered goods. >> one of my neighbors last year was riding his bike on that bike pathth over there. one of these young kids freaked
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out on meth stepped off of thege head as he passed by and knocked him out. >> laura: raymond arroyo will bringto up part 2 of that story tomorrow night, and what he saw with his own eyes will shock you. so where is the political will to address o this problem? well, democrats dominate everyme state government. and progressive policies have only exacerbated the problem. so what is their next big idea and how to solve homelessness? maybe a ban on sidewalk camping? no. a ban on fur. >> there is no necessity to wear fur. >> you can't sleep at night once you've seen. that's it. it is one of the most horrific things i've ever witnessed in my life. and i know if any of you had it in front of you, you would make the right choice. >> laura: now, i'm a big
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animal lover, and you all know that because i say it all the time, but is this the most pressing piece of business before a state official? plus l.a. and san francisco already ban the sale of thefursa statewide deal. meanwhile, democrats throw more taxpayer money and homelessness to no avail. let's face it, legislative virtue signaling, that is easy. eso here's an idea. address the suffering of minks and rabbits after you address the suffering of the actual people clogging the crosswalks of venice beach. and that is the angle, part 3. how many parts are we going to have to this angle? [laughter] triple the work. and, back with me again, judge jeanine pirro.chris hahn. judge, would you give up your fir? come l on, lady, tell us. >> you know what it's so warm with climate change that nobody needs fur anymore, but i digress. listen, here's the bottom line.
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they have been living in la la land on the west coast forever. the fact is, they don't care about typhoid and i wouldn't walk my dog on the streets out there i because my dogs are cleaner than the human feces that they are dumping from the homeless people living on the streets. they can't get their priority straits, but that is californias they been a little bit lu-la-lu-la-lu, and that's all i'm going to say. and not resolving anything. >> laura: chris have you ever wore a fur coat, be honest, have you ever wore a fur coat. >> i don't even own a fur coat. no, i've never wore a fur coat ever in my life. >> laura: do you have a leather belt on right now? >> i do have a leather belt on right now, but look, i think the problem, it's a real problemho, and while i do think legislators can walk and chew gum athe the same time, i think that should be a priority for the federal government and california and something that should not be happening in the richest state
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in the richest country on earth. something needs to be done right now. >> laura: it is a shock. they had a press conference about the fur. i'm not aa big fan of the fur i've a got to say. i've worn fur but i can live without it.. >> it doesn't work that much. >> i can live without it, however you've got real health crisis and raymond arroyo report tomorrow is shocking. i know that they have not seen what he found in venice beach. but, guys, great to have you here for triple, historic triple angle. be sure to pick up jeanine's amazing new book "radicall resistance and revenge" now. now we're just hours away from what we are expecting to be the first multiple ig reports an obama-era the fbi and the fisa court, now we expect this one te concern james comey. rudy giuliani and dan bongino react in moments.
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the long-term have to be ethical truth, which is the heart of this country. our president must embody respect and adhere to the values and the core of this country. the most important being truth. i knew i was telling the truth the whole time. i knew i was telling the truth, and i think the country knew i was telling the truth. i'm a big believer in the truth. >> laura: you should hide behind those blue curtains. horowitz report and the doj handling of the trump russia probe, but it's still to judge the former fbi director quite harshly. here to respond to a bombshellfy giuliani. we did not know horowitz was blocking out a separate report. just on call me like the big book launch so maybe he can do another book tour coming out
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tomorrow. >> well, i don't want to oversell it because i just think i know horowitz, not personally but assistant u.s. attorney and asi good one and i hired jim coy so i know jim comey. >> laura: so you are responsible. >> the president always reminds me i'm responsible for comey.an. but the reality is comey's conduct was outrageous for a prosecutor and any decentprosecf the walls, starting with a completely fixed hillary clinton investigation. that was a sellout, a fix from day one, a disgrace. and i don't think jay hoover ever did that. i think if you take us through the steele dossier, steele affidavit, and steele dossier was validated and putting his name under oath and straight up perjury. >> laura: the fisa court -- >> he and i have put people in jail for much less than that. >> laura: it does not reveal
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dossier funded by the president's opponent, material fact. >> i was there for the beginning of the fisa court. andd one of the first. and that is a sacred duty because nobody gets to respond. i did hundreds of affidavits for regular wiretaps, for mafia people. somebody challenged those p eventually in court, but when i did a fisa affidavit, nobody got to see it. it was my responsibility for the court. that man lied, straight lied. no way he didn't know the steele dossier was a big phony piece of junk. you read the first three pages if a professional and this is like "national enquirer." >> laura: you wanted it to be true, rudy.re so the president would leak it out. >> he knows it's not true. he's like a 3-year-old. that is pure jay edgar hoover. man, i've got something on you. >> laura: is as a crime or is acts?eries of unethical >> how about a simple one, the signature on the fisa affidavit is a crime. >> laura: how was it a crime?
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>> it's a crime because it's a false statement under oath. he signed under perjury. it's a five year statute. how many people did comey put i. martha that stewart, she made a statement to the f.b.i. >> laura: what about the leak of the document. the memo to the file, his own file, he he writes memos and then gives it to his pals "the new york times." >> the leaking could be more unethical than illegal. i think there was a conspiracy, however, to frame trump. i think there is a conspiracy to frame trump. >> laura: the players were? >> i can't name them yet because they are not identified, but this is a counterintelligence conspiracy feeding information of papadopoulos and then having papadopoulos regurgitated it to a ukrainian ambassador.
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it involves ukraine. it involves italy. it involves u.k., australia at the bare d minimum. who could do that for the cia? comey couldn't actually do that. comey could know about it, comey could be part of it, comey could be a player in it but somebody else is the brainchild of this. comey played his part as a liar to the court. there is no confusion about the crime. there is nothing clearer than you are swearing under penalties of perjury, name, james comey paragraph such and such, total like, go to jail. >> laura: he actually tweeted out last night. you might have missed this. he said he will keep speaking out against the president. he said i'd told a former colleague i'm tired of being a trump critic. here i responded with encouragig words that apply to all of us, where you see wrong, inequality or injustice, speak out because this is your country. he is right, keep speaking out. >> james cardinal comey. >> laura: that's hilarious. >> james cardinal comey. what a phony. and what a total phony. he will have plenty of
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opportunities three or four years in a federal prison writing about all this. then we can read about all this. he will have time to reflect. >> laura: explain further. >> you don't get to commit perjury and get away with it, not if you put people in jail for perjury.and on a trivial st. >> laura: but explain for the viewers, rudy what the ig's role is. he can't indict the ig, the ig cannot indict. he can recommend various actions, but it is different. explain that veryan clearly. >> he is basically an internal monitor. a person who works for the company who tells you how bad your people are in a company but he can't indict anybody. he's very, very valuable. he's beenpe there 35 years, bute can refer to prosecutors. he has already referred comey for prosecution once. and since the prosecutor the first time, you don't refer for prosecution but i think bill barr gave him a pass. i don't think he gets a second vpass. >> laura: i'm skeptical. i'm skeptical about what
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horowitz --y >> how can incredibly stand up in court and prosecute someone for perjury if you don't process him for perjury. you lose all credibility. >> laura: rudy, thank you for being here in d.c. former west wing, larry o'donnell teasedos a big story. >> the single source close to -- has told me that the trump, donald trump's loan documents there show that he hasce co-signers, that is how he was able to obtain those laws. and that the co-signers are russian oligarchs. >> what? really? >> even she doesn't believe it. >> laura: even rachel is like dude, i know you need the ratings but even that is too much for me and all those wild etch-a-sketch crafts that she does. come on, a producer had to do damage control in the morning. maybe it was an old west wing
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script he had. tweeting nbc could not verify any of that. so much for the single source and the single source had not actually seen the bank records. tonight at the top of the showw o'donnell retracted his own thinly-sourced dribble. but that's not fake news, right? here now, dan bongino, former secret service agent contributor of the author of the new book "exonerated: the failed takedown of president trump by the swamp." dan, you would have think they would have learned following the last two years of embarrassment but here we are. >> you know, laura, i rarely keep a pen and paper for hits, but i had to because i had to keep track of all the stories because they've blown. someone said to me today, well, this was a big mistake but what evidence do you have to say? this is standard operating procedure. we had the mike flynn story remember instructed to contact the russians during the
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campaign, false. the don junior wikileaks story. the back channel called google what are you talking about?ca false. some -- we had all the stories false. the list goes and i had to write them down because i was afraid i missed a few. they are actually a lot more of these but for the fact they are putting out like some isolated incident or some failure is nonsense. >> laura: dan, it is a one-off.r but the thing about it, look, and people make mistakes, honest mistakes or you want a do over. i give people the benefit of the doubt, but i think you are right. there is a pattern and a practice of trying to connect trump to putin or oligarchs. it is all total bunk, false and they stuck with it because i had -- they had nothing else except an economy that was rocketing up and they didn't know what to do. so they are obsessed with russia. meanwhile, china t does whatever it wants to do. they don't spend any time on china.
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it is really disgusting. it is bad for the country, and it reveals them night after night, day after day. >> and i did not report this story on my show today because i obey what i call the bongino rule. wait 24 hours for any big anti-trump bombshell and because it will fizzle out and i'm serious and you don't humiliate yourself, i refuse. i would not cover the story because i knew, it would be debunked. and you are right mistakes are made by the journalist all the time, but the way to prevent these mistakes and i don't pretend to be a journalist but i'm interested in facts, you don't a single source a story an end then go on a show, all right not that many people watch but whatever come a show and say hey, listen if this is true that is really ridiculous. that is not appropriate for cable news channel. >> laura: dan, i love the double boxes and all the drama like, okay. >> i know. >> laura: we've got the checks.
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i'm sorry, i give creditt -- >> i was waiting for a soccer red card to throw down on donald trump. >> laura: i give dread maddow, the around ten in the antenna going up. maybe women's intuition. > you saw that? >> laura: this sounds bad but real quick, and 15 what about the ig report and what do you expect? >> well, three quick things. remember comey hit the investigation from trump statements from congress and secondly the leaks could be a big problem. third, i'm hearing an interview in january of one of these russian sources where he was entirely discredited and comey went on to continue the investigation anyway. he could be in big trouble. >> laura: dan rattled those off and it's all in the book, i know. great to see you tonight. coming up, john travolta goofs up on another award showow fictional first ladies and why "good morning america" host grovel to ballet dancers, raymond arroyo with
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>> laura: it is time for "seen and unseen" segment where we unveil the big cultural stories of today. the first lady, runs another award show and why gma, well apologizing for male dancers? joining us with the detail raymond arroyo fox news contributor. all right, raymond and new series, but who have they cast asri michelle obama? >> it is good casting.
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they cast academy award winner viola davis who will play mrs. obama. she's around the right age and the acting chops for it.un with makeup she might be able to look like michelle obama. look there is a tendency to clam up certain political figures. michelle in a biopic a few years ago, she looks nothing like michelle. felicity jones played ruth bader ginsburg. and who might play some of the other first ladies in the show time series? who might hollywood cast say rosalyn carter? >> laura: since liberals are probably doing the casting, i don't know. someone like julianne moore? >> probably. dead ringers. how about hillary clinton? e hillary?play >> laura: if you are a liberal casting this, someone who looks
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nothing like her like tia lioni. >> that is perfect. laura:a: absolutely perfect. once they turn to the first lady like laura bush, who might they cast in the showtime series? >> laura: well, she is a reading advocate. she'ser well-liked, a very nice person. >> start at the national book festival. >> laura: started the national book festival that you are always at. i'm thinking hollywood like kathy griffin? [laughter] >> oh, my gosh, that is probably who they will cast. know my first thought who will they cast as melania trump? no secret a lot of peopleke dont like her. >> laura: she is gorgeous. >> who would you -- speaks several languages, formal model probably, lena dunham. look -- >> laura: these are just your suppositions. >> she looks like she has a game show going on in that dress. >> laura: who is that?
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my guess is the liberal first ladies will fare better. >> laura: you think? how many times has melania been on a magazine cover? once. john travolta with another award show. you will remember the music awards, he butchered the name of idina menzel. >> please welcome a talented woman. >> laura: [laughter] >> this week he was at the vmas presenting, watch. >> i shouldn't do this. because i'll would just mispronounce stuff. [bleep] [bleep]. you do it. >> queen latifah had to make the announcement because he didn't want to mess up the pronunciation. that did not save him. joe biden of hollywood hills and taylor swift won an award for her new album, she took the stage with a team of people at the lgbt friendly video including several drag queens. travolta mistook one of them for taylor swift and handed the award to the drag queen. watch this, look, here we go. that is not her but a drag queen. oh, i'm sorry. andg imagine how happy, imagine
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how happy taylor swift must have been to be confused with diana -- >> laura: she would rather go back to kanye west and he tried to take that award from her, remember? that was a better deal for for her. raymond you have to remember it all makes sense when travolta's big breakout. >> he decided to do his term paper. [laughter] >> just give me a second and i will think of it. [laughter] >> does it have anything to do with history? > yes, the great french fried phantom. >> there is a pattern here. >> laura: i have a question did he have a bald cap on? >> no, he had all his hair-- oh you mean award show? >> laura: yeah. >> finally, "good morning america," you have to apologize. the response or an innocent
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story on what william and kate's son prince george will betu studying including his studies in ballet. >> he looked so happy about the ballet class. prince george, prince williams says george absolutely loves ballet. i have news for you prince william, we will see how long that last. [laughter] >> for that comment, spencer was charged with bullying male dancers and being insensitive. a series of apologies, including an act of public contrition on oprah where she sat with three male dancers. >> laura: you've got to be kidding me. >> for me the lesson is that hurt. it was not my intention but words hurt and it was insensitive, and i thank you all for giving me the opportunity to apologize personally to you for you guys coming in here to sit and talk to me and educate me. and again, i'm really sorry. >> apology accepted. >> absolutely 100%. >> can you believe this? this is what politicians woulddc
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group. -- when you offend an ethnic group. >> laura: first of all, i was in ballet class for one class and i got kicked out. >> i did as part of my acting training. if you walk around in tights they will razz you. it is not exemplary for a male. >> laura: i climbed the ropes. >> this ended with 300 ballet dancers mostly boys joining a class in times square. look at this. i hope she offends a mechanic next so the boys have to change oil.: >> laura: we've got to go. >> you are sorry we are out of time? apology. >> laura: i like the praying motion. he was a victim, may be thehe first one of the me too movement. what does he mean by that, though? he is here to tell us next.
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>> laura: more breaking news tonight. an fbi crime lab is examining two broken cameras outside of the new york city jail cell for before jeff epstein died. this comes on the heels of his lawyers, the medical examiner ruling that their client did commit suicide. we have already learned of serious failures at the prison, including guards falling asleep on duty and falsifying reports. yesterday, more than a dozen of epstein's alleged victims appeared inep court seeking justice. here is what one accuser had to say.
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>> do i feel his death was an appropriate punishment, absolutely not. and it makes me sick to my stomach the the perpetrator is out there and obviously helped him in many ways for a very long time and still out there with no punishment. >> laura: well, what she just said about punishment is interesting. our next guest says he's being unfairly targeted or punishedin. and alan dershowitz, a former lawyer and meredith joins me now, alan, you say that you are cta victim of the me too moveme. explain. >> well, the evidence is justoud going to have to judge and show that three years before she falsely accused me, my accuser never heard of me. she said she never met me but then she said she saw me once with epstein. she never said that she ever had any contact with me, but in fact, she said quite the opposite.an and then she meets her lawyers and suddenly she vividly
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remembers she had sex with me. it is totally false. i'm a victim and it's had a terrible impact on me, on my family.i'm going to prevail bece the truth is very powerful. there's going to be a trial and i will prove by these emails and by a manuscript she wrote. she wrote a manuscript in which she details the man she had sex with. a harvard professor namedstevent name. an it professor. she goes into great detail about the man she had sex with him. then she describes meas someoneg business with jeffrey epstein, but she didn't have sex with me. it is so clear her lawyers h according to her best friend pressured her into naming me because they had a financial stake in this. rehave been completely vindicated. >> laura: few and there are other men who say the same thing that their name gets thrown into the mix of whatever allegation whatever circumstance. >> there is a difference. >> laura: i know but i'm just
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saying, the set up often times ise. an accusation. and even when it's disapproved later on, that sting is still there. that taint is still there, so where does an unfairly accused person, and you can apply this to any criminal issue or civil case that is outrageous, where do you go to get your reputation back? >> what you do, what you do is what i'm doing and that is writing a book aboutg guilt by accusation, having to fight against false charges. look, the me too movement is great. the extent that it really produces justice for men who have abused women and i'm completely for it, but victims can sometimes lie, as well. in my case, they have. and i'm going to prove it categorically. i won't ill rest until nobody believes this allegation against me. i'm going to buck the tide and overcome the presumption of guilt. for me, it's not enough to that people presume me innocent
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and maybe i'm innocent. i have to conclusively prove that i never met this woman, i never saw her, she made up the whole story, and anybody who sees the evidence concludes that.and so i'm looking forwarda trial where i can prove my own innocence. >> laura: alan, but you've got this very big deal lawyer, big big deal lawyer, david boyd is representing her, am i correct? it he's presumably -- i know you can represent clients who have a shady past, but he presumably has seen the documents. he knows what's out there. what do you say about his own credibility as a member of the bar to represent her? >> sean: well, boyce has, as you know, no credibility. he was involved in "the new york times" trying to harass people against reporting on harvey weinstein and was fired from the times. he had to quit. he has been accused on ethical
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violations more than any major lawyer in the united states today. in this case, he may be part of the problem because one of the allegations here is he may have perjury on several occasions by pressuring l witnesses to lie ad to make up stories. that is being investigated. and so the fact that he is involved in the case does not increase the credibility of the witnesses, it decreases the credibility of the witnesses. i think, in the end, a jury and a judge by hearing all the evidence will so conclude.look,s others -- >> laura: we've got to roll. >> i speak out and people like prince andrew don't speak out and others don't speak out. and other should speak out. >> laura: alan, thank you so much. and beto o'rourke says america is to blame for the drought in guatemala.a. watch.-- what? a guatemalan official is here to deliver a message to that 2020 candidate next.
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god nor mother nature but by you and me and all of us in ourhe emissions and our excesses and our in actions in theio face of the facts and the science and the truth. >> laura: here to react is mario duarte, the secretary of intelligence in guatemala. mr. secretary, what is your reaction? did mother nature have nothing to do with this? it's really our fault? >> hi, laura, first's of all, wt can i tell you? it is a silly comment to say something like that. obviously, taken away from the environmental issues that the entire world faces but definitely claiming that the united states is at fault for all th eills that our countries, that is simply ludicrous. we have two take into account our own responsibilities as country and our people. and so i think such comments really don't add anything to the political debate in the united states. >> laura: also, take a listenur
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to what else beto o'rourke claims the u.s. is responsible for in your country and the entire northern triangle. watch. >> the people of honduras and guatemala and el salvador reduce violence in their home communities, violence which we are somewhat to blame for. the civil wars that we are involved in, the drug trade we facilitated the war on drugs that militarized and hollowed out their civic institutions in their home countries. >> laura: so mr. secretary, is the u.s. responsible for violence in your country? >> no, not at all. to be honest, like i said, thisn country, in each country is responsible for their own people and for their own present, future and past.
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we have done mistakes, every country make mistakes, but the country to completely blame what we are facing down here, no, that's not right. and id would say that some of te problems weib have right now are the fault of socialists who have tried to be pushed on us by democrats in the united states and by other liberal countries. >> laura: how is the u.n. pushing these policies on guatemala? this is a critical point that i think people need to hear. >> well there are many things for instance, trying to push on to usan what they call kind of like a managed judiciary system. you know, we recently, we're about to kick out the commission with guatemalan on september 3rd their term will be over. it's not going to be needed atr. during that time a lot of things happened, a lot of bad things happened and the citizens, some good work was done. it started as a goode idea, but then it was taken over by ideologist. >> laura: well, mr. secretary
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we need guatemala to be totally on board on this migration crisis. 115,722 guatemalans were apprehended at our southern border in the fiscal year 2018. just devastating numbers for your country and for our country. so i hope that cooperation will continue and grow. thank you very much for being here tonight. hardly knew you. the best or the worst for the presidential bid next. .. the newday va loan lets you refinance your mortgages, consolidate your credit card debt, put cash in the bank, and lower your payments over 600 dollars a month.
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