>> i am going -- it is possible producers, everyone on state. >> two storms barreling down, first, dorian, now a category 4 hurricane taking it to florida and it is still gaining strength. residents are being offered now choice. republican senator rick scott is here. to that other storm, the economic one, new tariffs on chinese goods the kick in within hours as they continue to kick it up with these protests.

why what is happening there is threatening to hit your wallet over here, busy day, stunning weekend, welcome, i am neil cavuto. thanks to david asman for filling in. dorian breaking out everywhere. here's what we know right now. a mandatory evacuation is underway in part of brevard county including coco beach, cape canaveral, residents and low-lying areas are told to get out starting tomorrow. florida's republican governor ron to santos telling our residents to listen to local officials free information. orlando international airport will shut down at 2:00 eastern out of abundance of caution. the impact on labor day travel will be felt nationwide whether you are heading there or not. team coverage in west palm beach. we begin with rick. >> such a complicated forecast. normally use a storm will turn in a direction 50 miles one way

or another but when that 50 miles means making a direct impact on florida or not there are big impacts one way or another. this was hurricane matthew a few years ago and the forecast, all the guidance was saying it would go up florida in land. it ended up skirting just offshore sparing florida and causing hurt in the carolinas. this is a similar possible scenario with the storm and it is moving to the west, a lot of good agreement on that westerly track in the short term. where it makes that turn we don't have great agreement between our models, don't have great agreement between each model runs and that's why we don't have confidence in his forecast. there is a possibility the storm turns before it gets to florida, gets very close, big impact on the coast but not as big if we had the landfalling system in florida and then potentially a

landfalling the carolinas is also a possibility it just runs the direction of the coast and stays offshore altogether. just can't say. it is at 145 mile an hour sustained winds, holding together very well. nothing will prohibit this storm from staying this strong or strengthening other than i wall replacement cycles. the inner core of the storm get so tight it collapses and a new one forms on the outside and we can see winds drop a little bit in the cycle. that would be good news if we were in one of those cycles when it gets closer to land. the water temperature is one, no upper-level windss to break apart, no big landmass other than the bahamas. that's not a landmass that will disrupt the storm. northwestern bahamas worried about that. storm looks amazing on satellite image, really well-defined strong storm, pressure continues to drop. this is the official track from the hurricane center.

the center of the track staying offshore and making landfall in the carolinas. we don't focus on the center, we need to watch across all of florida over the next number of days. neil: thank you for your hard work and keeping track of that. a lot of floridians being told you have a choice, you can consider leaving or in some counties no choice at all, we think it best you pack up and start leaving. allison barber with the latest from miami. >> reporter: in south florida residents breathing a sigh of relief, watching those forecasts and for now it seems the kind of concern might not hit this area. that's not the case another part of florida. either way officials are warning everyone in the state that nothing is certain and even in this area they are saying regardless where the cone goes they should still be prepared for and expect wind and heavy rain.

>> it is shifted on the track east and if that trend continues obviously that would be positive for florida. i would remind people as you look at these forecasts, a bump in one direction or another could have significant ramifications in terms of impact. >> this is moderately busy, not as much as yesterday, yesterday people were rushing to fill their cars with gas, grabbing propane tanks, plywood, generators, boarding up businesses and homes, bracing for the storm. >> this is my first one. >> are you nervous? >> a little bit. seeing all the gas stations and things like that, this is real, the real deal. >> i am worried but there is nowhere to go. >> i've been around them all my life. this time i will get ready. >> going to my brother's house.

>> start going to stores to the last moment, this gets crazy, grab what you can off-the-shelf. >> half the gas stations in miami, fort lauderdale and west palm beach ran out of gas yesterday. the governor sent highway patrol, gas stations before the storm hit, they were out last night doing that. the gas station ran out of gas yesterday. a truck came in last night, three people, it is back open today. if yesterday was an indication regardless of forecast predictions, people are taking the gas situation seriously.

>> to that point, two of five gas stations are out of gas and hope to be refueled or replenished, some dicey math stands to work against consumers. national preparedness administrator with us, as far as what you see going on, how do you think it is going? >> it is going very well, category 4 hurricane, we have teams from south florida to the carolinas. what we see from the public, hearing words from local elected officials, the efforts they made to get supplies, it is heartening, and no one should blink. any fluctuation in this forecast would make a huge difference. keep it up especially now, folks in georgia and the carolinas,

use it wisely. >> it slows down mightily as it begins to turn limit and that has given some floridians hope that maybe it dodges the state a little bit and focuses on the carolinas. it is a slow moving storm. given the experience you have been through many hurricanes, slow moving storms whatever the caliber their strength leave a lot of flooding and rain behind them. how do folks prepare for that? >> one is prepare, don't lose your guard regardless, and a cone of uncertainty. stay vigilant, don't lose your guard and make sure you are ready.

to prepare for a storm moving much quicker, a storm that is moving slower sometimes harder to predict, because you don't have those parents. you have a lot more rain, we lose more life to inland flooding than storm surge. very important people stay vigilant. when and if you see standing water don't drown, turnaround. listening to local officials is the way to go. >> thank you for taking the time. you are not getting much sleep this weekend but thanks for the guidepost. a lot of florida residents are waiting and preparing for dorian's wrath. the question is what do they do? a lot of them don't know for sure. keith james joins us on the phone. it has been busy, that's an understatement. what do you tell your residents? >> i tell residents to continue

to prepare. we are cautiously optimistic by the latest advisory but we should not complacent or let our guard down. the thing is life after the storm. so much water and food available because you want people even after the storm passes by, loads are going to be flooded, you have power lines down, you are not going to have power for a while. have a cell phone in place and food until you get the all clear. neil: other counties in the state have talked about partial or fool voluntary evacuations coming in the case of brevard county mandatory for those direct we on the coast or low-lying areas, cape canaveral comes to mind, cocoa beach. what do you tell your residents? how is that done and decided? >> that happens at the county level because the evacuation

zones will extend beyond city limits. we will be -- i expect to hear something later today as to whether there will be mandatory evacuations so people should pay close he'd to the news stations to find out and confirming what evacuation zones they are in. when the evacuation order is issued they know exactly where they are and whether they need to respond to that. if you are near the coast i encourage you to be ready to go in the event you are forced to evacuate. neil: you touched on this yesterday. the issue of how many are in short, flood insurance and this kind of thing. it is mandatory in your city. >> we are seeing flood zones and you are required to have flood insurance if you are in those zones.

there is a way to determine where you are in those zones would go to our website, we should be able to point you in the right direction so you can find out if you are in a flood zone. neil: best of luck to you and your folks. a couple quick updates, florida has delivered 860,000 bottles of water to affected counties. they are ready to go for distribution. when it comes to the logistics ahead of the storm they are out of it. will dorian leave a path of destruction like we saw with katrina in 2005? katrina's commander on what people should be doing now to make sure that doesn't happen again. that sophie opened up a wormhole through time? (speaking japanese) where am i? (woman speaking french) are you crazy/nuts?

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neil: they always look at florida wherever you are in the south, a hurricane judged by katrina standards. it did ultimate devastation after the fact. that was one that hopped over the state of florida, got into the gulf and the rest is history. most restrictive storm in united states history and resulted in 1800 death. former hurricane katrina task force commander lieutenant general russell joining us via skype. thank you for coming. what do you think authorities on the scene regardless of party, mayors, fema officials, what should they be thinking right now? >> they should be refining estimates on the impact of surge water. the fact the storm has turned will not necessarily eliminate dangers for most coastal

communities to the impact of surge and any community that gets brushed by the eye of the storm along the coast, use a couple numbers for reference. when katrina went into biloxi the surge water was at 28 feet above sea level. it literally cut through buildings, was the power of that surge. i don't want to alarm people but listen to local officials, it is time for those local officials and local weather people to talk about the impact of surge because now we have more people that may be affected by coastal surge. elevation in brevard county is 19 feet in miami nine. when you get to jacksonville, all of that is low-lying areas. that surge water went into new orleans at 18 feet. and it overtopped the levees.

there are no levies in florida but there are a lot of canals people used to take their boats in and out through the ocean. all of those canals, that surge water could go in for miles. >> one thing i remember talking about at the time of katrina a slow-moving storm as karina -- katrina was and sticks around and surge becomes a bigger issue, flooding bigger than that and compounds itself. >> absolutely. i haven't walked the streets in this area, they made -- something people could relate to. telephone calls in tampa they put numbers on the pole. if they said eight feet surge, look at where the water will be if you have that surge. that is relative information. a lot of people have a hard time

visualizing what 8-foot surge will be. right now they are using the word evacuation areas that they need to talk about the potential impact of the surge from florida through savannah, georgia. neil: i know you're a very modest man, got everyone together and i remember you are dealing -- at odds with the mayor, the governor and on and on and everyone had to be on the same page regardless and eventually they were but it didn't start out that way. how do you advise local, state officials going through on this? they all seemed to put the party thing aside and deal with the crisis at hand. what do you recommend? >> the florida public sets its tone. they left a good battle book as we call it in the military.

he is executing that and has the right tone, not over exciting to people and it appears he and the mayor started communications and that will work for the benefit of the people. at the end of the day people need to take their own risks. can you live a few days without electricity? is your house in that zone that might flood? will your home flood. more people from the surge and the water from the storm that we do from the wind. neil: that is true, proven in one disaster after another. thank you very much. >> good luck to all. neil: lieutenant general russell honoray. parents heading to stores as kids are back to class, buying a lot of school supplies that could cost a lot more in 24 hours.

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>> because of the tariffs we are in an incredible negotiating position and taking it billions of dollars. neil: the other storm, a new round of tariffs set to kick in tomorrow on chinese imports affecting back-to-school supplies ahead of the back-to-school shopping season. lauren simonetti has more. >> you might pay more for clothes and school supplies because tariffs on a strong list of goods from china going from 10% to 15%. we are talking coffee, whiskey, suits, jackets, pants, shirts,

pencils, pens, textbooks as the kids go back to school and as they sign up for sports you might be higher prices for tennis and soccer balls and cross the -- lacrosse sticks. thousands of items will get slapped with a 50% tariff just 10 days before christmas and that includes cell phones, laptops, videogame consoles and some toys. those are items on some holiday wish list. retailers are nervous about this, the increase that would hurt their bottom line and also nervous about passing costs on to you anytime of the you are shopping for black friday deals. retailers warned a potential tariff increase to 25% would be too much to swallow. that includes macy's, best buy and walmart. investors paying attention to every presidential tweet. the dow suffered the worst day of the year down 18 points,

trade war sparking an economic slowdown. big swings up after chinese trade talks, said it would not retaliate with more tariffs for now. that ends the week sharply higher but not enough to drag it down for the month of august. where it goes from here is anyone's guest. neil: we want you to join this next discussion. the consumers worry about these new tariffs that hit and kick in tomorrow? a lot of them affecting everything from diapers to processed meats and cheeses. marketwatch's michael lee, aaron gibbs, lauren simonetti. one thing that helps, these could be impactful right away. these are not industrial, something consumers would feel the need for potentially. >> people who sell these will feel it immediately, how quickly

they pass it on to the consumer is how much they can shift things around. they are not worried about how the consumers are going to react to price increases but how to pass it on and this is one industry that has seen massive decreases in profit expectations from wall street analysts. we know the us consumer is price sensitive. they don't like when prices go up or they will buy other goods. it will be a tough game of how retailers will pack on a price increase in whether the us consumer will still buy those goods. neil: they have alternatives, the fact of the matter is when we talk about that we forget that it is fewer than one of the 3 goods.

people hear about it and i wonder if it has an effect on their psyche. >> we saw with the university of michigan it had an effect on the psyche. we have seen no real effect on the overall economy. year over year import prices are down 1.8%. it is important to remember the goal of these tariffs is not to tax individuals but to combat a trade war going on for 25 years and moving supply chains out of one of the worst enemies we have ever seen. a communist dictatorship up to very nefarious things. the us and china, not family competing the way pepsi and coke were with a taste test. mistakes -- the stakes could not be higher at this point.

these tariffs are unfortunate that would be better of china was not dealing with $1 trillion of intellectual property on an annual basis among other things. these tariffs may be the best way to combat that because what china needs is foreign investment because they need us dollars. they are a mercantile list economy running a trade deficit, not a surplus. neil: the issue, lindsey graham was with me this past week saying the president should be conveying near-term pay for consumers. a lot of that, trying to push that low. the one paying the bills, trying cannot do do that, there's only so far you can go on that. by not raising that distinct possibility. it will be in your interest?

>> the short term pain worth long-term gain and how long-term will this be? china's endurance is a good word for it. even the president himself. the end game changing theft of trade secrets and stealing our intellectual property. i am not sure tariffs are fixing that. the heart of this administration is in the right place. this is a long game president xi is playing. the michigan consumer sentiment 3-year low is the change in the consumer -- when you see erratic policy moves and tweets, that changes corporate behavior. you have companies spending hours and hours trying to say how do we move the supply chain out of china? neil: many already are, 8% have moved or completely gotten out of china.

>> that is the goal of this. china needs to open up their markets and allow the us to prosper or at some point we have to stop doing business with them. neil: more update on this storm in florida, the state of emergency continues to exist for 67 counties. more than a few counties in 3 saying it would be a good idea, in the case of brevard county including cocoa beach and cape canaveral, you must get out by tomorrow morning and we will knock on your door. the former florida senator rick scott. ch today's goals... ...all while helping you to and through retirement. can you help with these? we're more of the plan, invest and protect kind of help... voya. helping you to and through retirement.

neil: a look at dorian, category 4 storm with winds of 130 mph or more, not far from what could be category 5, storm of 157 mile-per-hour winds or more. it has slowed down a little bit and started turning east, 2 miles an hour. it will bring more rain. and including mime next guest, former governor of florida. thank you for taking the time.

>> it is slowing down and going to get more massive. it is going to become more wind. federal agencies working hard, focusing on georgia and the carolinas and this is turned a little bit. everyone has to understand that whole cone covers most of florida and part of georgia and the carolinas. everybody has to be careful and get prepared. neil:'s what point, you have dealt with more than a few hurricanes of your own, did you make the call to say now you've got to evacuate? i understand holding off because there is no -- to tell people to go inland it could jump the state, go into the gulf. what and how do you coordinate that call? >> you work with local sheriff and local elected officials and

say how long does it take to evacuate? how long does it take? what are your access points? roads to get people out? and you make the decision this is tough because this one appears to be turning but we don't know. everybody in florida is trying to figure this out. you've got to take care of your self, get your water, your food, download the fema apps, tips to get ready and afterwords, shelter and things like that. go to the fema apps and they will keep you informed. going to the american red cross, talking with shelters to open up around the state, we opened 700 shelters, unbelievably helpful in that regard. neil: you mentioned brevard county and cocoa beach, a

mandatory evacuation but for those in low-lying areas, a lot of people even under mandatory evacuation reviews to go. what do you tell them? >> here's what you don't realize. everybody says i have gone through a category 2, i have gone through a category 3, what you don't think about is this storm surge and the amount of rain. what we saw in michael in the panhandle, the number of people that lost their lives because they said it is only a category one or category 2 and it got bigger fast and we had 9 feet of storm surge. going to places like mexico beach, difficult to survive on the beach. so many people died because they wouldn't evacuate because they said i've been through a storm before. you don't know how bad it is going to be. don't take a chance. you can rebuild your house. we all love our family. you can't rebuild a life.

be careful. neil: they don't know where to go. following the katrina model where the hurricane hopped the state and get into the gulf, going in land is pointless advice so a lot of them, maybe i will stay until i know for sure whether -- where this thing is headed. >> you can't wait too long. if you wait to the last minute and everyone is trying to evacuate it will be difficult to get out so that is when places run out of gas so you cannot wait. right now you know you can go west. if you look at if you go west you are in better shape. i follow every day, listen to local law enforcement, they will give you what they think with every community will be different. >> do you get a sense floridians are so used to storms and

dealing with it they've got into a science, you were very effective as governor leading them through one after another. they almost get nonchalant, not saying they're looking at a category 4 storm and writing it off but they get a little too used to this. >> i think -- we were able to survive these storms the go back to michael and remember those pictures of mexico beach, that storm surge. that is what people don't think about the unbelievable storm surge that could happen. they follow this track. look at the cone is the cone is where the storm could be. not the track down the middle, the consensus. the storm could be down to the miami area or the carolinas. you don't know when it to turn west. it could turn west on a dime.

everybody has to take this seriously. this is your survival, your life. neil: good having you, rick scott. preparations are ongoing in florida but you need to pay attention to this no matter where you live. go to an airport, your flight more than likely will be delayed even if you're going nowhere near that area. you boys educated me on this in the past, you don't need to go near affected areas. could you explain that? >> imagine a flight scheduled to come from the miami area to pick you up in philadelphia and then go to london on the same aircraft. that aircraft doesn't get out of miami. it gets put into a hanger or put to the side and those planes are grounded or you have to shift those planes to other routes so

it is a domino effect. someone could be impacted by something in the southeast. that is what could happen and that is why airlines, if you have travel book outside september 5th with the storm really hitting, by monday you are asking yourself why thursday? the domino effect we get hit with whenever there is an event like this. neil: the major airlines associated with switching tickets, doesn't necessarily waive the newer price. some people got the tickets months ago at a sharp discount. they might not get that again. how do you advise that? >> most airlines protect the fair and you have to book within

the window. the airline stating a different window based on different origination city so you have to go look, talk to your travel agent and if you book it on your own you are in line with those folks and say what are my choices? when do i need to book without a fare increase so your protected with most of the airlines was what i saw on american airlines site this morning as they are tapping fares which i thought was great because we heard about price gouging what a lot of people are rushing to get out. they jack the affairs, 500 for an economy ticket and $1000 outbound. you won't get gouged, 1700 $2000 for a 2 hour flight being impacted by a storm and they went proactive on this today. neil: thank you very much. a good read on this. is just air travel.

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>> it's the weekend and guess what is happening in hong kong, demonstrations not only in hong kong but china. there were early signs protesters could not do this but is you can see it is playing out again, very rocky very early.

jonathan hunt has the latest. >> it is approaching 11:00 pm now. a day of the most intense clashes we have seen for pro-democracy protesters and hong kong police, tens of thousands turned out on the streets of hong kong, but that did not last long. >> the clashes began in earnest, you can see the hong kong police position into the crowds down here, now hanging over all of us. as we get closer to sunset.

the teargas comes from the top and a lot of teargas canisters picked up by the protesters and back over the wall right here. central government headquarters. >> from that moment the clashes only became more and more intense, volley after volley of tearing gas fired by the police from their raised positions if they tried to move the protesters back from the government building, they imply water cannons too. it remains volatile, the protesters sent a clear message, they don't care what hong kong authorities say, they will fight for what they consider their god-given freedom. neil: the power of persuasion is

not working, maybe having better luck with the authorities persuading are trying, those in affected areas to listen up and if necessary, pack up. how do you do that? after this.

neil: in florida officials are trying to persuade reluctant residents especially if you're in brevard county to get out of dodge, get out of low-lying areas because of hurricane barreling down. the author of the new book persuasion on convincing others, we could talk politics, we are also talking to keep it

newsworthy with this hurricane advice. it is interesting, in terms of what you wrote it is a tough sell sometimes. >> a really tough sell. to get people to move out of their homes when they are not sure where it is going. a lot of people are used to, too much work, it's not going to harm them, it's not going to do a lot of things, they would rather stay put but the truth of the matter is they need to move because we don't know where it is going to go and bad things happen. how do officials get to those folks? understand the fear people are having that overwhelms what is going on. that would be the first thing. neil: do people trust the local officials? much more so than -- they don't trust the local officials and are not going to listen to words to calm down. how do you play that game?

>> understand where they are coming from. they are overwhelmed and don't trust you. what you need to do is come up with a storyline, a narrative that will make them overcome that fear. you need to give them hope what is the other side and help on the way, tell them what it is going to be like, wanting to focus on. neil: following the trump campaign, he got that narrative, hillary clinton did not. hillary clinton, filling a room, a large park unless you had a star or stars, trump did it was just a message. what was that? >> the president understood how to persuade. with you like it or don't, he had one message, make america great again and every time he spoke he said it over and over. he had some symbolic policies, we were number what they were, the wall, getting tougher on

china, bringing jobs back. neil: it wasn't all over the map. >> you can see speaking to his target audience he knew who he needed to talk to. hillary clinton did not have a master narrative. i can't get people to remember what her story was. the thing that is really interesting right now, elizabeth warren doing an amazing job from pure messaging and campaign perspective, she's not trying to run on 150 policies, she saying i've got for that. neil: something clicking, when fact don't seem to matter, it is timely. i don't know. an update from the national hurricane center next. ect... and find inspiration in new places. leading them to discover: we're woven together by the moments we share. everything you need, all in one place. expedia.

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clearwater, florida not too far from tampa, florida where you might just call this the calm before the storm. dorian is a category 4 hurricane right now with winds in excess of 130 miles per hour. this could very well be by the time it hits florida, we're told that could be late sunday night into monday morning. if it follows its current trajectory, with winds excess of 157 miles an hour. already this has turned slightly eastward and shifting more to the carolinas. they're not taking chances in florida, closing down the orlando international airport as of 2 a.m. monday and already seen one county, brevard county recommending an evacuation. that's the 10th largest county. and now to an update. >> this is ken graham, the official clock on the wall 11 a.m. eastern time. let's get the latest information on hurricane dorian. look how healthy on satellite. you still see that eye of the hurricane right there in the middle and we're noticing a lot

of convex around the center. the other thing we look at, the health of the storm and outflow. you see the high clouds moving out from the center, just a textbook situation of a very strong hurricane here. that's why in the latest update, this is brand new, we're now up to 150 miles an hour on the wind and slowing down, too, moving west at 8 miles per hour. we're getting information from the noaa hunters and the hurricane hunters, flying right into the eyewall. with the hurricane hunters and p-3, we have a radar on board giving us information about the structure of the storm and helps us determine, looking at the winds with the instrumentation and the storms and helps us with the intensity forecast. you can see in the eye here and we also look for different patterns around the outside to look for eyewall replacements as well. a lot of information coming in here and as a result, higher winds and we've updated the forecast as well.

this is brand new at the hour. so you look at the tropical storm force winds and standing well outside the center. we key on that because it's outside the cone. hurricane force winds extending out of the center. you look at the impacts 100 miles or so out from the center. you've always got to keep your eye on that. and further east on the track. the cone shifts a little bit more. a couple of take aways. one is the shift of the track. we don't always concentrate on the center line and center points because we have the tropical storm force winds that extend out and we have the on shore flow which could push water into areas as well and also the rainfall. there's always so much rainfall associated with these and we still need to keep an eye on it. the uncertainty is it there with that cone. two-thirds of the time the center could be anywhere in the cone. this slows down. we're looking at this closely, 8 a.m. sunday, you start getting into monday and that's tuesday at 8 a.m. that's not lot of movement.

every time they make the turns, they slow down, hurricanes slow down, devastating for the bahamas, hurricane warnings up, lots of rainfall and wind and where we move more impact that the folks have in the bahamas so we're going to watch that. that's a key point, a really key point. when it slows, if it turns early it will be on that side of the corner. if it wobbles, we could be on the other side of the cone. that's why we've still got to watch that, still a lot of rain forecast. we will be watching for the forecast and the updates and we'll keep it posted from the national hurricane center. >> you've been listening to ken graham, joining us momentarily on the very show. and a question for some of the updates. this shows what seems to be sort of an eastward inching direction on the part of this monster of a storm, a category 4 storm right now. the question is how are floridians dealing with this amid some recommendations in some counties and cities to voluntarily leave in the case of brevard county, in the middle of

the florida east coast, stand witched between daytona beach and west palm beach, if you will, to voluntarily wind to forcibly, especially in the low lying areas and disabilities and everything to worry about. griff jenkins is live in delray beach. hey, griff. >> hey, neil, take a look behind me. you can see down the beach just south of west palm beach, that people are getting perhaps their last day of sunshine, enjoying a day out here, but that cone we were just hearing from the national hurricane center is what the officials want these people out here to heed. and that is, no one is out of the woods. no one is out of the cone. just because it shifted doesn't mean you will be hit. in this particular area, neil, it's not just the fact that you might avoid the direct hit from dorian, but it is the water and the threat of storm surge. we hear that every time one of those storms comes up, but it's particularly significant in this area this time because they are

in the king tides. you could look at the ocean and don't really notice this is particularly a king tide, but it is the highest tide of the summer occasion with this storm's approach and already you have the inland water ways at their max capacity because of heavy rainfall and that's why the mayor here says that you've got to be vigilant. here is what she told us a little earlier. listen. >> if it starts to track north, we'll be on the southwest side of that storm, which is typically a lot less impactful than that northeast side, which is the tighter side of the storm. as a native floridian, i'm aware of size of the storms and how they affect. i think it will be the better side. we are probably going to be impacted in some way. >> impacted in some way, indeed and there's no evacuation mandatory here, neil, in this area at this time, but the mayor hopes people will heed.

meanwhile, gas station and shelves are running out. we were over at a gas station nearby. the marathon gas station on atlantic avenue. talked to the owner there, howard lewis, here is what he told us about running out of gas. listen. >> i'm not surprised at all. usually the lines are four or five blocks down the road and this time, as people got gas, so we lost fuel about 8:00 last night. >> the officials in this area, the delta impacted during irma two years ago, neil and that's why they're prepared. the message is clear. pay attention, don't think you're safe just because the cone is not on you. more importantly, be vigilant and be ready to act should the officials tell you to do so. >> thank you, my friend. be safe yourself. griff jenkins in all of this. in the meantime, you've probably noticed something out of florida, consistency, no matter the party or point of view,

whether you're an official or one working on the ground in florida, everyone seems to be on the same page. the standard was set some time ago. some say it's a fallout from hurricane katrina back in 2005 when there was arguing and disputing and politicizing back and forth, the president who wasn't in sync with the mayor of new orleans, wasn't in sync with the governor back and forth. michael brown was caught in the middle of that, the former fema director. no doubt encouraged by the cooperation he sees among the authorities and all sorts of parties. mike, good to have you. people forget how important that is, whether there's sniping or finger pointing. help is hard to come by and getting something done is even harder, isn't it? >> it is. i think what's impressed me, i don't want to diminish your point about the cooperation between federal, state and local

officials. as i've watched the news the it's been impeccable. i think going back to what lee said in your discussion about persuasion, they've hit exactly the right tone. look, there's a cone of uncertainty. we don't know what it's going to do, move on a westward track or eastward. in light of that conflicting information, what's impressed me the most have been the people of florida who have said, you know what? we don't know what's going to happen, but we're going 0 get prepared. i've seen stories of businesses going ahead and boarding up even though they may not have to do that. people have learned the lesson, look, it's go ahead and get prepared and some of these may be for naught. if i protect my home and family arealize i didn't have to do that rather that it damaging. neil: in katrina in 2005, not

meaning to point fingers at the right and left, convincing even though the storm was coming and it happened the state of florida and headed to the gulf and people thought this wasn't going to be that big of a deal because it dramatically slowed and you were saying, warning president bush and warning that levees were going to be an issue and it didn't seem to resonate with either party at the time. i'm wondering for people with a storm seeming to do the same thing, it's too early to tell, that they should be prepared with all variables. >> i think that katrina was a tipping point. i was streaming-- even before it crossed florida that we didn't know where it was going to go. i had to look at all of the possibilities. everything from houston, texas, all the way over to miami-dade county. if it goes to houston we have this problem.

if it goes to new orleans we have this problem, biloxi, pensaco pensacola miami-dade. mother nature is going to do what mother nature wants to do and we have to be prepared along the arc. what happened, we just came out of 2004, successfully dealing with hurricanes in florida. everybody thought, no big deal, we can handle this, but i'm screaming, no, we have the serious problems along the coastline. so i think what katrina taught everybody was, there's a cone of uncertainty, we might as well look for the worst and hope for the best. i think that's the lesson people learned. >> we've learned that it's not the mass or the speed of the hurricane, but the rain and everything else with it. if it had been a slower one, you mentioned, certainly katrina then, eight years later and

sandy barely registered as a hurricane and obviously did a lot more damage. what do you tell people now to look for? >> well, here is my biggest concern at this. i hope that it keeps on an eastward track and most models indicate that and hurricanes do what it wants to do. if it stays on the eastern track ap denigrates into a tropical storm or depression, georgia, carolinas, washington d.c. and that means buckets and buckets, boatloads of rain which means flash flooding and flash flooding can be as dangerous or more dangerous than hurricane winds. so this hurricane, you know, may -- it may drop down to a category 1 or may drop to a tropical storm, but that means you've got buckets of rain that causes equal amounts of damage, but in georgia and the carolinas. >> all right, michael brown, the former feema director. ten times more people ultimately

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around 600 delays within the u.s. the worst hit airport is dallas, actually, which is very far out of reach of this storm. that being said some florida airports are warning travelers, things are about to get bad. orlando is the first to announce it's ceasing commercial operations at 2 a.m. on monday, making that call before more coastal yarpts. travelers, miami, tampa. they'll be updating as the storm gets closer. airlines make decisions whether to fly-- have their flight schedules or decide not to fly even before the winds reach hurricane strength. the travelers we talk to are on edge. >> kind of worried, yes, i am. i just want to pray that it will go away. >> more than 17 million passengers are expected to travel this labor day weekend.

several airlines have issued waivers for change frees and delta waiving charges for baggage and pets at certain airports and eased restrictions on travel for unaccompanied minors. one thing for sure, a lot is going to change before the storm makes landfall and no matter where you are' travelling in the u.s. you're likely to receive some degree of impact from it. neil. neil: i apologize for saying how voters were expected, by the way. i meant travelers. voters on my mind. daytona beach mayor on the phone with us right now. thank you for taking the time. >> my pleasure. neil: how are things looking by you, sir? >> well, they're looking quite nice, the weather is always pleasant prior to a storm, but we expect the storm to continue to come in our direction in some way so we're continuing to prepare. neil: you probably heard in other counties where they're

looking at other areas. how do you coordinate that if it ever comes to that, obviously, just beyond your city and town, but to other affected areas? >>. >> we were conjunction with our county, as well as our local police department, and other agencies here to make those determinations and we get out. we've already gone out and start today encourage residents that if that mandate comes down to heed the warning and accept the advice to evacuate. >> we're told that the reason why so many are reluctant, that is officials, to pull the trigger and tell people to leave, to evacuate, they're not quite sure where to tell them to go. the possibility with dorian even though it's taken a slightly eastern turn, it could still wallop most of florida and stands a chance of hopping florida and getting into the gulf.

the route you take further inland might not be an option then. how is that all ahandled? >> it's just difficult because the uncertainty. what you do, you try to wait until you have as much information, but at the same time you're telling people to be prepared for the worst, so preparation is what i always say, no matter what you do is you be prepared. you have to be your own best advocate and then as a municipality it's our job to take care of our infrastructure and do a great job of communicating and we do that around the clock through social media and our hot line, trying to inform our residents to make the best decision for them and their families. >> mayor, thank you for handling this. it's not an easy for a fun time, but sem to be handling it deftly florida is getting attention because seems to be if not a direct hit on florida, but a hit that could include most of

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be safe. and the fellow to echoes that from the weather joe bastardi. you were telling me during the break-- great to see you in the flesh. this happened before. >> you look at matthew 2016 one of the storms we look it, it was supposed to go to florida. it's almost impossible for storms moving that angle hit north of west palm beach and jacksonville, if they don't hit there, they parallel the coast and along the shore and the next shore is the carolinas. first up is the bahamas, grand island could get devastated. and it's a formidable storm. third is the carolinas, and the fourth is new england. do you know what today is?

today is the anniversary of hurricane carol, 1954 new england. why did i bring that up. neil: that veered way off course. >> it was going off course and then went straight up north. my dad is a meteorologist, and i got put to bed with the hurricane carol and the three little bears. he says remember tomorrow is the anniversary of hurricane carol. and my mom's aunt carol. looking at the maps, lo and behold there are similarities, not the same. even after it gets by the carolinas, there's going to be another potential hit up toward new england. we still have it going out to sea there, but i'm nervous about that. for you folks down in the-- the people down there, matthew is a good parallel storm as far as it coming off shore and then hugging the north carolina,

south carolina coast. so, if you can think back to 2016 with matthew, you have a pretty good idea of what this may be doing down the road. neil: all right. and as you reminded me in the path, it doesn't have to have a direct hit, it could hug the coast and with the flooding and more devastating. >> back in the 40's and 50's. the west side of the hurricanes, hurricane helene ten miles south of cape fee and wilmington it was getting wind gusts out of the north and northeast of for norfolk, 160 miles per hour. and recently the western side is not as strong as past years. my father is that even though this is compact, it's not like the hurricane force winds are extending out 150 miles, that that western side will remain intact enough even 10, 15 miles

off shore might be a category 4, but you get a hurricane 2 where you are anyway. >> no mandatory evacuation, but for the low lying counties in florida, and you're careful with. >> i would do what the experts say on that. i do the weather and they figure out from there. i've learned you don't go telling people what to do, but what i do, this is what i believe is going to happen and this is the best we can do, we tell our clients we've been on this since monday with this and we try to get people prepared. if you have an edge, even a 10% edge, you've got a chance to come out okay with these things. neil: all right. joe bastardi. good to see you. i didn't know that about your dad, also in the business. >> i was fortunate with that. neil: and there you go. joe bastardi. and another name, joe namath. he's next. ill be the kitchen.

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good to see you, joe, thanks for coming. >> neil, thanks for having me, man. always a treat for me. neil: same, my friend. what do you do, monitor the weather reports. and your neighbors and friends, what are they doing? i've been living here 30 years and jept, florida, you prepare for the worse and pray to god it makes a u-turn and goes back out to the ocean. neil: right now it does have a slightly eastward direction here, but i guess they worry about flooding and all that. most floridians no matter where they live are well-prepared and know the drill and what to do. are they alarmed by this storm or how are they handling it? how railroad handling it? >> having been here, as i say, we've had a handful of hurricanes and we've been lucky the last ten years or so for the most part, but mother nature can be very vicious and the flooding, the water, the power, you know, it's-- it can be devastating. people can lose their lives, certainly, so, again, we're

prepared with the experience down here, most of the southeast florida right now, is pretty well prepared. neil: have you, in that course of the 30 years, joe, ever evacuated, ever left? >> no, i haven't. i live far enough inland, as the crow flies, so to speak, just a couple of miles, but we haven't been in the evacuation zone at this as of yet. neil: what do you say to those though who are reluctant to leave even when they're ordered to. i know in brevard county, a lot of the areas, cocoa beach, what have you, a little north of you, where they have been ordered to leave, and some are reluctant. what do you tell them? >> can only empathize with them. leaving your home, leaving maybe some of your family, animal life even. it's tough. you worry about your home.

so to each his own. depending on how close they are to the hurricane eye and the powers that be. it's difficult. it's devastating. it's awful, and can only get worse and you prepare for the worst. neil: now, a lot of, you know, stores have run out of goods. how do you ahead of it plan, i guess, water and gas, maybe you have a generator. what do you do? >> for the last four days at least we've been doing our duties and preparing with the food with extra water and buttoning up. buttoning up, putting the shelters or the shutters in position to put up. neil: right, right. >> that particular part i can put up in a few hours and i'm holding off because i don't like that enclosure so much, you know? but we're ready at this point, as ready as we're going to get without the shutters up at this

point. neil: we've already heard, joe, 20% of the gas stations if florida are out of gas. some might be refilled and restocked. how is that, that can be a crazy and nerve wracking hunt. >> it is, lines around the corner two days ago from gas stations. again, we've had some experience down here and people have started earlier than i've ever seen in the past over these last 30 years, it get prepared for what's coming. i believe we're doing a good job throughout the state and we'll be as ready as we can be. neil: i have no doubt. you know, joe, i'd be remiss, in football, who would have thought, 1969 jets winning it all. another football season upon us,

the games begin. any early favorites? >> yes, there are early favorites for sure, the team i'm pulling for -- the team is not a favor at this point. i am a new york jet guy, you know. [laughter] >> and i'll be pulling for those jets and after seeing what we've seen in the pre-season, i'm not too sure that it doesn't behoove lloyd's agent to talk about a field goal i can c -- kicking job. i'm sure that's one of the position that jets will be looking to fill or upgrade. neil: what do you think about that, allow it or opportunity? >> what's that? >> that we mean more women in the business and field goal kickers and all that? >> yes, yes, no. i'm all for opportunity and if she can earn the job, good. anyone, male or female, if they are fit for the job and could do

it better than anybody else, they should have that opportunity to work. i am also a guy that's played the game. i know violent it can be and i really believe the male animal is bigger, stronger for the most part than the female and i would not want to see a lady on the field. if she makes it, then-- >> i have a feeling that you'll get a couple of e-mails. joe namath. again, there has been no statewide evaluation order. and in the state a voluntary one. more after this. oh yeah, sure. um.

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what china is doing to our lives? forget whether they're lying to us. are they literally killing us with what they're doing on the opioid front? my next guest very, very worried about it and the fentanyl trafficking, and that comes from the sanctions act, max rose of new york. good to see you. >> good to see you, neil. thanks for having me. neil: it's an interesting perspective, we're caught up on china will they're pulling a fast one on trade. on fentanyl we have no doubt. >> we have zero doubt. this is a issue that the president is rightly drawing attention to. 90% of fentanyl killing our kids across the country is coming directly from china, mostly from the mail and the other 10% through mexico. we have got to put sanctions on the chinese pharmaceutical companies willingly shipping fentanyl to our shores.

they say they're trying to stop it, i don't believe a word they say. neil: the government says we'll do our darnedest, among before any trade accord was addressed, that this is something we are voluntarily going to do. the president says they're not doing it. >> i don't trust the chinese government as far as we could collectively throw them. another problem, we are not doing nearly enough domestically to stop this fentanyl coming into our shores. think about one thing, 50% of our mail comes through kennedy airport. what we found that they don't have an on-site lab to screen for these drugs. it means that they have to send every parcel that they suspect of being an issue to newark. they don't get results back for two weeks. the money is there and they're ready to change it. it hasn't happened yet. bureaucrats, generally our leaders are dragging their feet. it's a enormous problem and we have to fix it. >> you want to fix it how?

>> this is easy. all this is is drawing attention to the fact that this lab at kennedy has got to be built, but the sanctions, i think, is also incredibly important. we talk about leading with a carrot and a stick. >> it's time that we show the chinese pharmaceutical companies that we're making a profit off killing americans that there are significant consequences to that. sanctions is where we begin. i believe at this point when we actually affect their pocketbooks they'll change their actions. >> they seem to be waiting this president out, on the bigger trade issue? >> we look at the larger trade issue. i'm saying this as a democrat. i applaud the president for drawing attention to the fact that the chinese government overall, whether it is the issue of stealing our intellectual property, cyber attacks, demanding co-ownership of american companies has been making out like ban did i understand. we definitely have to take it to them. this issue with this tariff policy at this point it's gotten

out of hand. at this point these aren't tariffs, they're attack on hard-working americans. the way that we can beat china in the global marketplace is by investing our american workers. our human capital is our most potent work force. neil: i know this pre-dates you almosting a congressman, but the hurricane in florida, dorian, seems to be taken a slight turn, and he's seen history where hugs that storm the coast go up to the northeast. as a staten island, and sandy that didn't register as a hurricane. a lot of floridians, i'm not saying they're' nonchalant, but thinking this, too, will pass. what do you say given the sandy experience, the fact that sometimes a storm can be short

changed. >> look, they cannot underestimate the power of a hurricane or a super storm. put a larger perspective on all of this. we don't trust authorities in the way that we once did. there's this stream of fake news, all of these multiple news outlets. people have got to trust what the authorities are saying. this is a matter of their own security and i urge them to both listen to the reports you're putting out and generally what the government is saying. >> good seeing you again. >> so good seeing you. >> enjoy your summer. >> new york congressman. and the congressman was addressing as well and heeding warnings, here is a fellow tracking it better than i know the national hurricane center's ken graham. what's the latest? >> i tell you, look on satellite. the components of the powerful hurricane. the hurricane hunters are in the middle of the storm with the

doppler radar and the noaa p-3. what we found was 150 mile per hour winds so very dangerous, very powerful america. neil: when you look at this in a slight eastward tilt? what does it mean? if it's slight and it's going in that direction, is it possible it misses flo florida altogether? >> yes, even the forecast shows it off florida, but so many things, a big hurricane like this is like a ship that has to turn, once it makes the turn it's got to slow down. if it turns early it could be on the right side of the coast, if it turns late, impacts could reach 100 miles. we have to pay attention and be ready. neil: you were reminding folks as well. hugging the coast doesn't mean it's avoiding the coast. there's flooding and surging. >> if you think about it, even

hugging the coast, that's a long time to have the on-shore flow. and you could see it to get the wind and rains. and that could do more damage with the trees and power lines. in case we get a wiggle and that makes a difference in the forecast. >> when we talk about the cone as well, you're patient with idiotic questions. the cones seem to have a fix. what are you looking for? >> the cones are an interesting topic. it's based on our error. we expect the summary to be inside the cone. that means one third of the time it could be outside of the cone. we concentrate on it so much. a little change here, in the beginning, could have big consequences down the line and that's why we focus on the cone because we could see the impacts of any given time.

>> so far, as you know, with the exception of brevard county, kind of in the middle of the florida east coast. there have been no mandatory evacuations delivered from florida. officials now, even there, it's for low lying beaches, cape canaveral, some of the others. by and large they avoid that i'm told because they don't know exactly where to tell people to go. it's possible the storm of this size could hang for a while. if they went further inland it doesn't mean they're getting away in florida, they don't know where to go. how would you advise people who are being told to go, where do they go? >> we start losing time as thee speed up. we were given more time with this hurricane so during the briefings and talking to everybody from here at the hurricane center, we're talking about the timeline. think about this. that's 8 a.m. tuesday. this is 8 a.m. wednesday.

so, because the storm slowed down, it bought us some time. so you want to do those type of things really with thought. you don't need people going that don't need to. baying more time we have more time to think through it and make smarter decisions. >> and b and p apparently canceled evacuations from workers in the gulf of mexico, some of the platforms in harm's way if it hopped into the gulf coast. is that premature. >> it's interesting to look at forecast, a faster storm, thinking then you would have had a situation where the gulf could have been impacted, but when you slowed it down like this, it's basically a disturbance over the great lakes. if it slows down it's picking up. we've gained confidence, a models gain confidence, a slower storm will get that, and it's

going to feel the disturbance and it's going to take it to the north. it's too close and too early to tell which side of the track it's going to be. neil: but landfall anywhere would be a monday event? how would you describe it? >> devastating with a major hurricane. for the bahamas we're talking conditions going downhill even tomorrow. very devastating in the bahamas. i can't emphasize that enough. 24 hours of rain and battering storm surge, even staying off shore, this is tuesday, not even making landfall in florida, but could get the impacts. depending on the fracture. south and north carolina, again, it depends on that track. neil: ken, thank you, i know you've had little sleep. and the national hurricane

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>> all right. we've been following competing storms today. not only the one that's happening in our neck of the woods with dorian, but developing and getting worse in hong kong. jonathan hunt on protests that

have suddenly turned nastier. jonathan. >> neil, it's been an incredibly intense day of protests. our crew, as we showed you earlier, the producer and cameraman were in the thick of it today as the hong kong police and protesters fought running battles. they were building barricades on main street in the heart of the city of hong kong. they were setting fires. riot police came in and served volley after volley of tear gasment and they changed the water in the water cannon at one point to contain blue dye. that not only drives them back, but it marks them so then the riot police can find them more easily later as they comb the streets trying to find out who the leaders and organizers of what have become very violent protests are. what we've learned about all

today, neil, is that these protesters, despite the marches being deemed unlawful by the hong kong authorities, despite the hong kong authorities wrangling up many of the leading organizations of the demonstrations, these protesters are not backing down. they are determined to fight for their freedoms, whatever that takes, given that on the other side, you have hong kong authorities and police forces not backing down and above them, you have the chinese central government in beijing absolutely not backing down. it is hard, neil, frankly, to see how this ends without a lot more violence. neil. neil: jonathan, if you want to hang in there, if we take this to the top of the hour, we're learning separately, jonathan that chinese troop part of a normal retatiotation they haven

rotated out. have we heard about mainland authorities have planned for them? >> yes, there's a china army garrison not far from where we are standing right now. that's where those troops that we saw moving on thursday morning, and the vehicles, including anti-riot vehicles, across the border interest mainland china stationed, we have not ourselves seen any sign of chinese army troops on the streets today, neil. but clearly, the hong kong police force is getting some backup it seems. and today, obviously, as they fired all of the tear gas cannisters, they moved in large formations driving the protesters back. they are sending a very strong signal that they can handle it, but the chinese army is here, it is here in numbers, and clearly,

beijing will order those chinese troops to take action if they feel it is necessary. they have not done so, as far as we are aware, as yet, neil, but it clearly remains an option. neil. neil: jonathan, we know that the people in hong kong see the images. we know the world sees these images. do we know if people on mainland china see these images? >> in terms of what they see, what at the did see plainly was the troop movements. that was clearly a message not just to the people china, to the people in hong kong, but to the world. the china central government isn't backing down here, neil. they seem to have no intention whatsoever of agreeing to any of the protesters demands. with the protesters equally as i say not backing it down.

you have a moveable force now on both sides so it's very, very hard to see where it's going to end. it's certainly not going to end soon, quite possibly we're hearing an attempt of protesters to shut down the hong kong airport. the question is how long the central chinese government in beijing will allow this to go on. how long they will allow the hong kong police to be the only force battling these protesters. something has to give at some point on one side or another, neil, and we simply cannot predict where that breaking point will come and on which side it will come at this stage, neil. >> all right, jonathan, excellent reporting. please be safe, my friend. jonathan hunt in the middle of hong kong. yesterday the president hoping that chinese authorities would deal with this humanely. anyone's guess, as jonathan pointed out whether that will be the case.

continuing to follow dorian a category 4 storm, it's tilted slightly eastward and another story to pass along to you, ruth bader ginsburg feeling better, no plans to retire. fox continues. >> and there is the latest track of hurricane dorian, putting the entire southeast, from florida up to the carolinas on high alert. right now bracing for hurricane dorian. welcome to america's news headquarters from washington, i'm leland vittert. a couple of hours ago we got an update from the national hurricane center. it certainly got better, then it got worse as we looked at things. >> yes, encouraging sign for florida, but still that cone of uncertainty is so massive right now. i'm kristin fisher, the slow-moving storm dumping rain in the bahamas as it inches to