not again. limu that's your reflection. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." hurricane dorian spent two days just devastating the bahamas. if you've seen the pictures you know how awful it really was. now the storm is coming here, could soon make landfall in the carolinas. we will be tracking it of course throughout the night here on fox. first, a major shift in social policy that every american ought to be paying some attention to. yesterday walmart, which is the world's largest retailer, announced that it is now taking sides in the gun debate. the company announced it will no longer sell handgun and it stores nor will they stock common reforms that can be "also used in large capacity clips on military style weapons." then the company went even

further than that. walmart ceo doug mcmillan issued a striking statement calling on congress to ban many semiautomatic rifles that americans have, as well as to seize firearms from some americans who have not been convicted of t a crime or even charged with anything. a for a company that operates primarily in rural america, all of this was a big step. how do rural americans feel about it? we can only guess at that, there's not a lot of polling i going on in two.montana or roxbury maine. but we do know that in the most expensive parts of new york city and washington and los angeles, all the smart people were deeply impressed, they love walmart now. >> good for walmart for doing this. if these weapons of war. >> may be what's actually happening is walmart is listening to its own customers and listening to the american people who want changes not only in the stores, but in society. >> you have business and you have business being able to actb in more agile way the government does. >> at least walmart announced no

action insisting with the status quo is unacceptable. >> i was surprised -- happily surprised. i think this is a momentous decision, a watershed moment. >> tucker: so now walmart is more "enlightened" than government is, says liberals. that's a fascinating turn around, because for years, you'll remember, walmart was the target of coordinated attacks from the left. progressive use to attack the company for destroying small-town america and exporting workers. walmart hired p.r. consultants and union busters to push back for years but the company never really changed the way itne does business and yet somehow the left has mostly stopped attacking them. how did that happen? part of the answer is that liberals got rich and then lost interest in economics. they adopted identity issues instead, but walmart, meanwhile, figured outut it could buy immunity from criticism from the left by mouthing left-wing pieties. that's all it takes, really. sound and woke and they will leave you alone. if walmart plans to sell the remainder of its ar-15ai ammunition, so this couldn't

really be about saving lives, obviously. it's about the money, it's only about the money from and that's not a surprise, because there's a lot of money at stake. by revenue, walmart is the largest company in thef world. the family is the richest family in america, collectively they are worth more than $150 billion. how did they get so rich? selling foreign goods to domestic consumers. cheap chinese garbage manufactured offshore in factories that pay wages, wages that american manufacturers could never match. according to one study from 2001 to 2013, america actually lost 400,000 jobs thanks to walmart's reliance on chinese imports. and it shows. here's what many american towns look like today thanks to walmart. the gleaming of new cities that the communist chinese government built with the prophets. look at that. don't you wish we had that? we don't. at times, walmart sold goods at a loss just long enough to drive american competitors out of

business completely. smaller detail in the jobs they divided justle vanished. in many places walmart became one of the few remaining employers. as of today, more than one and a half millionem americans at any one time work at walmart and is not by a margin improvement over what we had before. it's not getting better. 2005, for example, 20% of lump sum at walmart employees worked part time. today the majority work part-time. why? you know why. if walmart keeps employees hours a lot of it can avoid playing the benefits. people can't really live like that and walmart knows it. but they know the federal government, that is to say you, taxpayers, will subsidize their low wages with welfare benefits. in other words, you are working that the walton family won't have to pay their employees enough to live. that's happening right now, but we are not talking about it because walmart is now pushing gun n control. so take three steps back and let's think about what happened here.at the company more responsible than any other company for destroying integrating rural america, for making our towns

uglier and cheaper and poor, the same people who push the appalling life that brightly colored plastic from china is going to make us happy, that company is now lecturing normal americans, the very americans they have hurt, about how immoral they are for daring to protect themselves with firearms. that's what they're saying. and everyone in washington, new york, and los angeles, is applauding them, as they do. it's not a good sign. victor davis hanson is a senior fellow at the hoover institution and he joins us tonight. professor, does it worry you that the biggest american corporation can work against one of our constitutionally protected -- if you think the left would applaud if walmart made it harder for people to vote or be tried by a jury? with a think that was a good thing? >> i'm worried about it because we have all of these constitutional protected rights, right to free speech and the right to bear arms and the second amendment, but if you

can't actually actualize them, they don't mean much, so i'm a professor, if i go on campus and i teach a class or i give a lecture and i criticize partial-birth abortion or climate change i'm going to have a problem and i'm not going to have full rights of free speech and people are not -- if they can't go to a gun -- a rural walmart and buy ammunition for a legal gun to protect their families, they really don't have full use of theil o second amendment. the problem i think is that walmart told us, and i'm speaking as a rural american, that what damage we did to local commerce is balanced by giving cheap affordable goods to the middleoo classes and that's oka. but once they venture in to cosmic morality, don't fool yourself, it's a bottom business line. they made a business decision that what customers they will lose in rural america is more than offset by what you said, the virtue of signaling left, wealthy liberal cosmopolitan stores, but also they feel that maybe people will go shopp more

of walmart now that they are politically correct. and when you juxtapose this in cosmic morality, then you have to ask themselves -- ask ourselves, they are the largest importer of chinese goods and actual dollar amounts of any retailer and percentagewise maybe not quite as much as target for costco. there's a million people in reeducation camps in china. have surveillance of average citizens, there's no human rights. they stealal patents, copyright, they dump, they manipulate currency, they followed out the interior and are we going to see now walmart say, youu know what, just as we have taken ae courageous stand about the second amendment and we want to curb gun violence, now we are going to curtail our purchases in china and in the finalal thig is, you know, this is what we do now in america, we signal about problems that we can't really understand or solve and that is sort of psychological recompense. so if you really want to stop violence under walmart and

you worried about the 11 to 14,000 people were killed every day, 96% of them are killed with handguns and another 95% are not lost in mass shootings of four or more people. they are inner city using illegal handguns, so walmart could say we need laws that make it really tough for an ex-felon or somebody with a record to have a handgun in his possession or to commit a felony, or we want longer prison sentences for people who shoot people. they can't do that because that's a political firestorm if they were to dole that. that might save inner-city youth, but they pick and choose selectively to virtue signal morality and it's often because the x the central problem they have no clue how to handle and they feel good about doing something that won't have any practical effect. >> tucker: so i'm fascinated by what you said that the left -- and it's not just the left, it's our ruling class, the people who make most of the decisions. >> it is. >> tucker: intentionally seek problems that cannot be solved suchch as climate to focus their

attention on and then at the same time ignore solvable problems potentially. >> yeah, i think that -- i call that once in an article in bloomberg's when mayor bloomberg couldn't get the snow off the streets of new york i think it was 2013, then he started lecturing everybody about supersize coca-cola and we see that in california with gavin newsom and others. they will talk about the dangers of dogs chasing cougars or plastic straws because they don't have a clue how to get 300,000 people off the streets, they are using drugs. that's really a dangerous thing that social media encourages. we are all so careful to offer advice about a misdemeanor because we can't -- we don't have a clue about thehe felony. real courageous decision. >> tucker: you've set up our next segment more skillfully than i ever could and i appreciate that. we are about to have that exact conversation. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me.

>> tucker: so case in point what professor hanson was just saying, san francisco, a city plagued with massive problems, obvious problems if you go there. needles, human waste on the sidewalk, no. exaggeration. car break-ins are the highest level in the country but the city government doesn't care about this, they have other priorities, including this week the board of supervisors imprint san francisco labeled the national rifle association a domestic terror organization. watchup this. >> supervisor wrote this skating declaration reading inin part, "the national rifle association spreads propaganda that misinforms and aims to deceive the public about the dangers of gun violence." >> the nra has it coming to them and i will do everything that i possibly can to call them out on what they are, which is a domestic terrorist organization. >> tucker: the irony of course is that the bay area is the e headquarters of a domestic terror organization, and t4. but don't expect the board of supervisors to contend nt for any time soon pavlich joins us

tonight. katie, really simple question, who was killed more, i would ask you, nra members or judges in san francisco who have let heroin dealers back into the city? >> doctors in san francisco, and let's not -- let's not bring up the illegal alien who used a gun to kill kate steinle illegally, but that's a whole other issue that san francisco doesn't want to talk about. i think with all of the smears the left has thrown at the nra over the past couple of months, but especially in recent times, i think it's important to talk about what the nra is and what it actually does. the nra was founded in 1871. it is one of the oldest civil rights organizations in america. charlton heston, who went on to be the nra president, marched with martin luther king jr., was standing on the lincoln memorial steps when he gave his eye have a dream speech. roy was a civil rights icon. he served on the nra board of directors for 25 years until his death in 2017. i have met thousands of nra

members. i'm a lifetime member. these people like personal responsibility, they like freedom, they believe in the second amendment and that is why they are members of the t nra. and i think it's important to be clear, people don't own firearms because of the nra as san francisco says in the stupid ordinance that they pass. they own firearms because they have a constitutional right to do so to protect themselves and their families. and everything that nra members represent, rural america, individualism, personal responsibility, is what the left hates and if the nra that is responsible for thousands of hours of gun safety training, thousands of hours of hunter education training thousands of hours of work on real legislation that just went through, for example, o the fix next program which actually does more to help with the background check system in this country so people who shouldn't have guns don't have them. whereas the left accuses them of being terrorist and does nothing about the issue. >> tucker: that's kind of the crux of it. by the way, a lot of us who

believe in the second amendment and think the constitution is worth preserving, are rooting for the nra and hope that if leadership gets its act together and protect the second amendment. for real, because it's important. but the irony it seems to me in this case is you just had a guy who murdered someone right in downtown san francisco with an illegal gun and leadership in san francisco is like no big deal. >> leadership in san francisco and the left in washington, d.c., attacked the nra as if it's not made up of people. not made up of americans. there are 5 million members, and yes, the leadership as this very moment has some things to work out, that's for sure, but the membership has been there since 1871 and these are people who believe in the constitutional rights, who believe they should be defended, and the left is deeper for them. it's not just about gone, it's about what people in the nra represent, what their values are, a traditional american value and wanting freedom from the government to take care of themselves so they don't have to go to the government and ask for

help when theof government can't be there to protect them. they want to do it themselves, which is why the second amendment is so importanw to them and for san francisco and other elected politicians to continually smear them and accuse 5 million americans of beings domestic terrorist when they are not the ones shooting up schools they are not the ones carrying out mass shootings, they're doing the opposite by trying to prevent them through legislation and by educating people abouten respectful and lawful use of firearms. >> tucker: yeah, so a moral lecture on the people who preside over violence and chaos aimed at the most peaceful parts of our country is a lot to swallow, i would say, as you point out. >> and those people want to disarm people interpret cisco from defending themselves against a violent people on the streets of san francisco.an >> tucker: are not sustainable. great to see you tonight. >> thanks. >> tucker: turns out san francisco amazingly is leading the way as the rest of the stateam marches off the cli. today the governor of california gavin newsom signed a bill that will let citizens refuse to help a police officer in need.

chief breaking news correspondent trace gallagher has more. >> the democratic state lawmaker who sponsored the bill says that being forced to help a police officer in need is a "outdated requirement that subjects citizens to an untenable moral dilemma." in other words, an internal struggle over whether helping police is right or wrong. now the california governor gavin newsom has signed the bill, residents can rest easy because now they can legally ignore police in distress. though the state sheriffs association argues argues "there are situations in which a peace officer look to private persons for assistance in matters of emergency or risk to public safety and we are unconvinced that this statute should be repealed." others believe this is nothing more than california continuing to drive a wedge between the public and police. in the v publication law enforcement today points out that nobody ever got charged with not helping police saying this is really about reminding people that police officers in

trouble will have to fend for themselves. orthe office says the law is outdated and no longer in use, but remember, it comes just weeks after the governor signed a bill giving californiagn polie officers the toughest standard in the country when it comes to using force instead of reasonable force. it's now necessary force. civil rights groups say the law is aimed at lowering the disproportionate number of police shootings on communities of color. >> tucker: trace gallagher, thanks a lot for that. well, the biden campaign for president was already preparing for a letdown the state of iowa. now they are telling us that new hampshire could be a disappointment too. how does he feel about south carolina ande michigan? we will discuss that question with the great dana perino, who joins us after the break. ♪ tak talk about that when we get back with by the strolle♪s

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♪ >> tucker: we are continuing to track hurricane dorian tonight. here's an image of it from space courtesy of nasa. the storm spent two days pounding the bahamas. now it sitting in the united states. jeff paul is in cocoa beach, florida, at the moment and he joins us live. hey, jeff. >> yeah, hurricane dorian starting to slightly move past the state of florida and move on to other coastal communities along georgia and the carolinas but we are still very much feeling the outer bands of this storm as it moves along, the wind gusts are very strong in the beach right now at least near the water probably not the safest place to surf out there,

very rough and powerful. people away from where we are at a nearby beach, there have to be a water rescue when a woman was trying to check out the waves got pulled in. but this area as the storm moves on, very much fortunate compared to what is happening right now in the bahamas, that's where at least seven people were killed when the storm swept through that area they expect that number to only rise as search and recovery efforts continue their on those islands in the ocean. avril homes out there just leveled, the pictures really just incredible to see, stowe so sad to see those images. long, long, long road of recovery for that area and the people watching those images right now where the storm is heading next, people in georgia and the carolinas have been watching this storm, which is been very unpredictable at times and they're wondering what is going to happen to them, the storm is supposed to bring up to maybe a foot of rain in the carolinas and of course the worry is the storm surge. tucker.

>> tucker: jeff paul, careful. just a few days ago joe biden campaign was telling us they don't really need to win iowa. now they're telling us they don't really need to win new hampshire. speaking with reporters, a biden official told them that elizabeth warren and bernie sanders somehow have a home-field advantage in new hampshire, though neither of course is from new hampshire, so here's what we have. biden not winning iowa. not winning new hampshire. and day after day forgetting basic facts about his own life story. this joe biden really the front runner like b they are telling ? dana perino might know, she hosts the daily briefing with dana perino and she joins us tonight. in the same student. it's really nice to see you. so this is a question i go back and forth on, but it seems like the biden campaign is evaporating before our very eyes. >> is interesting because it does feel that way, it's almost like you can sense it and that everyone is kind of politely not saying that that's true, but he

continues to defy gravity. and the national polls, democrats who say who is the most electable, who do i want to vote for, it's him, but these early states matter. remember what george w. bush said, you have to have the big mo. sthat means the big momentum. you can write off the early states a little bit now. there is some reality to that because were always doing national campaigns, but iowa and new hampshire areit still first and if biden is not going to win iowa, i noted this, the last four democratic nominees have won l iowa. it was gore, believe it or not -- i had to look that one up. carrie, obama, and hillary clinton. on the republican side, that's not always true. a lot of times republicans that win iowa don't want to get the nomination for democrats recently is true, why is that? they are kind of slightly more aligned with the base.it biden is considered a little bit too moderate for iowa, for the caucussi goers. elizabeth warren is exceedingly organized in that state. then you go up to new hampshire

and you think they are maybe a little bit more biden's style but already his campaign is saying we don't need to really worry about that. and you can get down to south carolina. they risk people starting to walk away. as you said, the campaign is fizzling, but his staying power with african-americans is realli high. one thing that's really different is super tuesday this year includes california and it's early, it's like the first week of march. >> tucker: 's what actually matters. >> and also i think it will be fascinating to see if sanders and warren team up. they've had a nice alliance. will they team up against biden at this next debate? because they have to figure out a way to sort of taken down a peg because what do they want to say? they want to say i'm electable and not just crazy. and i don't mean crazy -- crazy in the nicest way. >> tucker: of course. i think it will do that. what's so striking is the number, as you just pointed out, democratic voters who still believe in spite of everything that joe biden is the most electable of the candidates.

that suggests that they view the rest of the field is pretty weak. >> i think that right now -- this is myel opinion. i think that they are really a top-five candidate, maybe just a top three, because -- barring some unforeseen surge by one of the remaining candidates, you've already seen a lot of people step out, the first one was eric swalwell. others are hanging in there. to this next debate if you're not there it's going to be really hard to say i'm going to be able to win iowa and new hampshire, they won't be able to do that either. >> tucker: the latest we are hearing iso bill de blasio make -- i should say we are expecting to haveo mayor de blasio on the show tomorrow night.ow so we will ask them. >> he might be here. you ask him if he can do something about the situation in the city? he logged like seven hours of work time in new york city last month. >> tucker: we noted that in fact on last night's show. he just called me last night and said -- because people say he's a really nice guy. >> tucker: we are going to find out but i have some concerns about the city. you are the best, thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me.

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>> tucker: well, the democrats running for president in 2020 are unanimous on one thing, i o climate change. they tell us it's an existential threat. >> climate change is real, it's an existential threat to our country the entire planet. >> nato is about the common defense. the biggest existential threat is climate. >> this is climate change. it really is the existential threat. >> we are going to have to address the most existential threat to our nation in the world, climatete change. >> on climate change, the greatest existential threat that we face.

>> we are facing a climate crisis. they represent an existential threat to who we are as human beings. >> tucker: do they believe any of that? put it this way, barack obama is spending $15 million on a beachfront compound in martha's vineyard. would you do that if you thought the seas wereey rising? by the way, would you fly private all the time as all these people do if you really believed climate change was an existential threat? no you wouldn't, they don't believe it. they're willing to spend your money as if they believe it. the democratic nomination fight is becoming a contest to see who can propose the most expensive climate action plan with a straight face. a pete buttigieg is planning to spend $1 trillion to fight climate. sounds like a lot, right? not really. in fact, it's tiny by compariso comparison. cory booker of new jersey and elizabeth warren of massachusetts are both promising to spend $3 trillion. but you know what, by comparison to the college, not much either.

kamala harris says her climate plan will cost $10 trillion, but even she isn't the most generous. that honor goes of course to bernie sanders. he's promising to spend $16 trillion to fight climate change. that's, for reference, 80% of the entire u.s. economy. richard goodstein is an attorney, former advisor to bill and hillary clinton and as of this morning, a democrat. will he remain in the party after hearing this? let's ask them wait to see you tonight. so 80% of the entire u.s. economy will go to fighting climate change. 80%. meanwhile, bernie sanders will continue to fly private. does that make sense to you? >> you know, i think if the nominate bernie sanders, they deserve the fate they are likely to get. bernie sanders is an about socialist. the fact of the matter is i actually cite a republican, dick cheney, who had the 1%

doctrine, which is if there was 1% chance that a threat is going to effectuate, we have to treat it as a certainty. >> tucker: how to that work out -- part of that work out out of that workout -- >> you can laugh -- >> tucker: is that really your standard? >> politically i hope you keep laughing all the way to election day because every millennial things what you're laughing at is in fact serious. >> tucker: i don't care if every person on the planet has been brainwashed, i still believe in science and the basic precept of science is don't tell me, show me. prove it, and no one bothers to do that. slogans, they attack you. nobody doubts that climate change -- it always has changed. the question is, is man causing it and can we stop it? and no one bothers to make the case. >> let's talk about scientists. in the trump administration, the official natural climate assessment of people who work for donald trump said that unaddressed, climate change could reduce the size of the

economy by up to 10% by the end of the century. so what bernie sanders is actually preparing to spend his child's plate relative to that possible 10% reduction. we hold on hold on -- i wasn't a math major at harvard. didn't even go to harvard, but you're saying that worst-case scenario, climate change reduces -- who just said this, s reduces the economy by 10% by the end of h the century, bernie sanders is proposing to spend 80% of the entire u.s. economy every year. >> you're mixing apples and oranges. by thehe end of the century the u.s. economy will be about $100 trillion, not what it is now. simple math. i'm just using assessments of national officials. >> tucker: let me ask a really simple question. >> is not b.s. >> tucker: if you know if the economy is going to look like at the end of the century -- only insane -- only d.c. is that considered a legitimate prognostication. really quick, if you really believe this number that this was such a massive existential

problem that you would take over the u.s. economy to fight it, why are you flying on private planes, seriously? >> so it's not a question of taking over the whole u.s. economy. >> tucker: why are you flying private planes? >> every democrat is saying there's going to be a fight between the u.s. and china,s. who's going to tell to the world that wants to buy clean technology? we going to throw up the white flag? that's a socialist thing to basically say we are out. >> tucker: why they're flying on private planes if they think that cartman is destroying the atmosphere? >> you could use that frankly silly, i would call it, stupid analogy. that's like talking with donald trump using a sharpie to incorporate alabama. you're talking about apples andn oranges. >> tucker: noted talkco about? you're telling me i have to change my whole life because this problem is existential. they are not changing their lives at all. >> look -- >> tucker: their hypocrites and liars, that's why. >> either we are committed as a country to doing something or - not. if you want to get the economy to china to sell to the world,

knock yourself out.y spoon the left party to that, thank you. i was here for that. great to see you tonight. thank you. >> thank you.re spoon the press, top liberal t politicians and major celebrities all have a few thing in common, they love flying around the world privately. the love posturing about the environment, they love attacking you. in the past few weeks, the panic has been about the fires in the amazon rain forest and if got all your news from snapchat, as most people under 30 do, or twitter is everybody in d.c. does, you can s be forgiven him thinking most buyers werevi sacd by the right. if there was an apocalyptic event destroying the lungs of the world. it's all fake w though. it is in fact another opportunity for rich hypocrites who care nothing about the environment and know nothing about theoc environment who couldn't name a single bird species who have never been outside giving them a chancee o pose as you are moral superiors. if daniel turner is executive director -- joins us to talk about the amazon fires. so look, nobody is in favor of forest burning, least of all me, i love trees, unlike these

people, who know nothing about trees. but what are we hearing about these fires that's untrue? >> basically everything. number one for starters is that this isn't unprecedented. i've seen that line and basically major publication online print newspaper. we have to remember this is an opportunity for the left. remember the former chief of staff ofti barack obama and faid mayor of chicago rahm emanuel said never let a crisis go to waste, so this is an opportunity to manufacture a crisis to get something passed, so we call it unprecedented. it's not. if the dry season right now in the amazon and this is a standard technique that a lot of farmers use. the fires were worse in 2016, but there was a socialist president, lula da silva for the corrupt socialist president bill murray self and barack obama was president here. so we just let it go -- >> tucker: could you stop their? they were worse? if that speculation? the fires were worse in 2016? i never even heard of the fires --

>> to study the amazon and you can see all of this stuff online. i didn'tlt have to do an awful t of work to find out these facts. this is all readily available. our own nasa satellite imagery shows that these fires were worse. here's where the left is being very, very sneaky. they are talking about fires in the amazon but in reality it's fires in brazil. nine countries make up the amazon basin. right now the fires in brazil are worse than they have been in the past, but the amazon fires are about average. so they conflate the two back-and-forth just like sometimes we call immigrants illegal immigrants or illegal immigrants undocumented immigrants. if you own the i language you gt to only issue. >> tucker: interesting. so the implication is that the fires are burning because the guy who runs brazil is a right-winger. >> exactly. >> tucker: is there any evidence of that? >> not at all. you know what's causing the fires? poverty is causing the fires. deforestation is actually down since 1982.

it is about 800,000 square miles more of amazon rainforest, why? wealth. poor people don't have to burn down land. they have machinery or they don't have to be subsistence farmers. if that is what's driving a lot of these fires. they are man-made what they are not climate change-made regardless of what people like aoc or these unscientific morons on the left keep telling us. >> tucker: the irony is that some of us actually care about the environment and spend time outdoors and we can't help but notice that our country is getting much dirtier. there's more litter -- if you're outside on your average river in this country, there's more litter than i used to be and nobody cares. they don't care but the actual environment, they care about controlling the rest of t us. >> i love the people from new york in san francisco tell the people in rural america to go clean up their areas. >> tucker: no one is defecating on the sidewalk. great to see you. court seal documents couldn't look at hundreds of high-profile individuals, famous people, in the jeffrey epstein scandal. will we ever get to see those

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♪ >> tucker: jeffrey epstein is dead, but the quest to find out what exactly happened continues and now it seems the scope of that truth could be larger than anyone o imagined. epstein associate ghislaine maxwell is battling a defamation suit from one of epstein's accusers. according to maxwell's lawyer, seal documents from the case for implicating i'm quoting out, hundreds of people. the accuser claims to have been victimized by major politicians, business executives, even foreign leaders, heads of state. jeanine pirro, of course, hosts justice with judge jeanine. she also has a brand-new book aj the top of "the new york times" list.

it's called radicals, resistance and revenge, the left 'a spot to remake america. a plot that she is attempting to foil. she joins us. it is great to see it in. >> it's good to be with you. great to have you in new york. >> tucker: i lovee it. i love being in this building. >> it's a lot of fun here. >> tucker: and the sounds ominous. i'd like to know, is this posturing or do you think it's possibly true that hundreds of people could be implicated? >> it's absolutely true. let me tell you, the stage is set. i mean, this is a drama unlike anything you've seen. as the bottom line, just as you said,to virginia roberts had sud ghislaine maxwell for it -- i think at the time it was for some kind of libel or slander. that lawsuit was resolved. we don't know how it worked out or what the end game was there but there are thousands of documents that the second circuit court of appeals has said, wait a minute, these documents shouldn't be sealed and they ordered a district court judge, who is a hoot, to make sure that these documents

are unsealed, because they are saying, look, the public has a right to know. the press and the print media play a very important part in notifying the public of what's going on. on the other side, you've got people were chewing their nails ready to jump off a bridge because we are talking about 10,000 documents, loads of investigative forms and people whose names are in there not just in that blackball, but in the documents. some of them will be implicated in the letterpress graph, the judge, has had i will give you c chance to come in and keep your name out of things. i will give you a chance to make an argument, but the rest of you, if yourr name is just in there, it's going to come i out and that's what's going on. we've got the forces of darkness and the forces of good and like who want to know all the people's names. and for some reason, even the second circuit said this, they said why is this stuff being sealed? it's like everything else that happened with jeffrey epstein from alex acosta being thehe united states attorney cooking up a deal don't know that was

the deal of a lifetime for a aperverted serial. >> tucker: so if the speculation is true and epstein's real business was running -- one of his businesses was runningng an elaborate blackness came against the powerful, then they don't make it there are likely to be tapes in duplicate and documents. there have already been hints that there are tapes, videotapes. >> look, you've got prince andrew at his home with young girls coming out in prince andrew, you know saying goodbye to them. i think you have it right there on tape. that is i think virginia roberts or -- i thinknk it is. but what you also have are individuals who are alleged to be procurers, people who were housekeepers. there are all kinds of people who will be named in this and as you look at the video, look at all the young girls who were going in and out of there. i don't know if that's the one with prince andrew, but i don't think i see him there. but anyway, people on every side of the globe are concerned.

from israel to the u.k. to the united states and there he is, prince andrew and they were all very upset and of course jeffrey is dead, i thought that was going to be the end of it. not a chance. >> tucker: it will be interesting. it will be interesting to see -- my guess, it will be squelched. >> no, second circuit has said you're opening them up and the letterpress because the judge set i'm tired of waiting, get this stuff done. they were that will be a headline. >> she's a hoot. >> tucker: great to see you tonight, congrats on the book. >> thank you, thank you. >> tucker: dave chapelle has an especial outcome of the audience loves it. the press hates it. why is that? dave from barstool sports, who suffered for his humor, joins us next. ♪

. . . >> tucker: well, dave chapelle is back with a new stand up

special on netflix. in it, he takes aim at cancel culture, the impulse where nobody pays attention to buyer or in person anyone whose tquestions are woke overlords. >> i want to see if you can gets i am doing as an impressionmuch. you have to guess the character. okay, here it goes. hey, if you do anything wrong in your life and i find out about it, i will try to take everything away from you. and i don't care what i find out. it could be today, tomorrow, 15t 20 years from now, if i find out you're [bleep], you are finished. who is that? [laughter] >> that is you!! [laughter] that is what the audience sounds like to me. [laughter] >> tucker: it is funny, and it is funny because it is totally honest, for real.r]

he went on at one point he went on about jussie smollett andcal" basically you knew he was lying from day one. and the audiences love the show. rotten tomatoes 99% of viewers gave it a positive rating but critics hated it. why? not because it wasn't funny, it is funny, the problem is, it offends them. he says things they don't think you ought to be allowed to say even for the sake of comedy. david can relate to that, he's not a political figure but he's a funny man and covers sports, but he's taking a lot of crap for being funny and he joins us tonight. dave, great to see you. >> thanks. >> tucker: what do you make of the latest response? >> none of it is surprising. very funny but the people are complaining. again, i don't know what they are complaining about. i don't want to date myself bute andrew dice clay show, he has been doing this a long time.

this is the type of comedy he does. it is a different era, i guesshe some of the people loved him a couple of years ago are turning on him and saying he is lazy. a blue check mark, no fun club people if you don't agree with what they say or they don't agree with what you say, they want to cancel you. it is a cancel culture. >> tucker: it does seem calling him lazy like the slightest and most dishonest because it is opposite of lazy. if you are dave chapelle and you have money and you can spend and live on a farm in ohio, you are just like in your own world, you can do whatever you want. you can show up and basically do a half ass set and get rich from it. he does anyway and it's brave. >> he knows it's coming. even from the title and the preview, he knows there will be criticism. he knows they will be putting i,

and it helps him. everybody is talking about it. it is the number one special with all the publicity, but yet he doesn't have to do it. he'd can do it because he has the crowd and credibility. it is a combo. a lot of this is the media. the rotten tomatoes, most people love it. everyone hates me online. i go on twitter and everybody chirping at me, birds on the m street people like me. the normal people, normal functioning people like me.thate chapelle with rotten tomatoes, the people like to hear themselves talk and like to think they are smarter and moral authority. they are the ones criticizing but it is the minority. most people want normal, funny stuff. it is a comedy show.ci it is a comedy show! it is one thing to pick on one person, one group of people. he doesn't. he is an equal opportunity hater.that's his gig. if you don't like it, don't watch it, don't buy a ticketjuse internet and just be miserable. >> tucker: what is so interesting, so few people do that. you do it, he does it, aen few others but even people who

should know better and rich enough to say whatever they want still toe the line.are still bu. and why is he brave? what does it take to say what you really think in a world where people are threatening you? >> there is a couple of factors but first you have to be secure. canceled he can do that, he is way better than me.el he's a bazillionaire, but also it can make people uncomfortable. even though i don't care what people are saying, hey, dave you are a racist, you hate women, everything, nobody likes hearing that, but you know what, thesep. i'm going to do my thing. i will not be silent or say what i think because a couple of people i have no idea who they are who hate their lives and hate fun are chirping at me. you have to be able to separate it and have some, you know guts. >> tucker: how long is this going to go on, doav you think?e everybody is terrified.ri >> this is a simplistic take but we have been saying donald trump broke a lot of people's brains.he just broke i.

when i look at the people who hate me, and i don't consider myself political. i really don't. if you go look at the tweets and the people who hate me, it is political. within three tweets, within three comments it's all politics. i don't have anything to do with it. the country is so segregated with that. you jump to conclusions no matter what. you don't even listen to what tipeople are saying. you don't think about it, it's just a broken mind-set. it is unfortunate. >> tucker: i have never heard you say a single political thing, i think not ever. i think it is about control. i think they want to control you, and when they can't they get, they get really mad. >> i've been on this show and said things i guess people say conservative audience would disagree with. >> tucker: yes. >> and i still get criticized and they are not even listening to what i say. did you look at the words out of my mouth? >> tucker: thank you for doing that is it for us.th unfortunately, we are out of time. the good news we will be back tomorrow night reliably 8:00 p.m. the show is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness

and particularly group think which turns you into a moron so avoid it. good night from new york city and guess who else is in new york city? we won't keep you guessing, it is sean hannity and he takes over right now. >> sean: i like the free speech issue, and if you don't like somebody, you don't have to stay with them, but we hope they stay here. good show tonight, thank you. welcome to "hannity" a fox news alert, hurricane dorian slowly making its way up the east coast of the united states at this hour. the north carolina, south carolina bracing for a direct impact around charleston area in particular. tonight, the storm is pummeling coastal areas of georgia with heavy wind and rain. joining us with the latest on the ground in savannah, georgia, beautiful town is our very own mike tobin. mike, savannah, one of the nicest cities in america. >> it certainly is right now. it is a wet and windy city in america as we get close to the