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meantime, the death toll in the bahamas has risen to 30, and the officials say more deaths are expected. let's go now to meteorologist adam klotz in the fox news weather center, and more on what dorian is doing right now. >> still a powerful storm, and as you mentioned, winds at 100 miles per hour, along the coast of the carolinas, getting close and really brushing against the coast. some of the strongest winds now running along the coastal areas in north carolina, sitting only about 25 miles away from the center of the storm to the actual coastline. because of that, winds are continuing to intensify. some of the winds getting to 80 miles per hour, but right along the coast, winds as high as 50 mile-per-hour range, and that's enough to do damage, especially over a long amount -- long period of time. moving forward, the storm is moving 13 miles per hour, likely making landfall -- likely -- sometime early tomorrow morning, there is the time stamp in the corner, this is getting their

6:00 a.m., and then the system will continue to run very slowly over -- fairly quickly over the outer banks, and running back out into open ocean, before eventually hitting portions of new england. once again. taking into friday and saturday, use the outer bands of rain moving through the new england area, boston included, stretching as far north in maine. not nearly as intense as what they are seeing in portions of the carolinas, that's just driving a whole lot of storm surge, driving a whole lot of rain, and driving a whole lot of wind. those will continue to be the issues. this is stuff we will pay close attention to from tonight, running all the way into tomorrow morning hours, marianne, it's going to be all three of those things. again, likely making landfall within the next five or six hours. >> all right, meteorologist adam klotz, thank you so much for getting us up to date as far as where dorian is right now. let's go to charleston, south carolina, that's where we find jacqui heinrich. jackie, what does it look like where you are right now?

sorry, right now, we do not have jackie at this point. for those of you just joining us, we are following the path of hurricane dorian as it lashes the north carolina coast, and now we do have jacqui heinrich back with us now, she is actually in charleston, south carolina. it looks like by the radar that you should still be getting a little bit of rain. to tell us what it looks like for you. speak on the inner streets, so far, the only real damage is to restoring power. a lot of downed power lines, and some blown transformers. the project now for the city, getting back to normal, is going to be making sure people have their power back up 126,000 customers in the state still in the dark tonight, and also figuring out when folks can go home. at the height of the storm, 830,000 people were under evacuation orders, now as it tracks northward, the governor is allowing some of those southern counties to lift

evacuation orders and people go back into their homes. as it continues to move further north, people will be returning to normal. of course, want to make sure they follow the orders of local officials and make sure they don't walk into any energized standing water. pay attention to local alerts. marianne? >> jackie, it is the middle of the night there. have you seen anybody out and about at this point? may be little earlier? venturing out to check out the damage or get back to their homes and businesses? okay. thank you, jacqui, for that report. she cannot hear us, that sometimes happens. we will have much more on dorian's path, stay with fox news channel for the very latest on hurricane dorian paired for now, back to tucker carlson tonight, already in progress. ♪ >> in low-lying areas. what do you suppose god thinks about? i bet he thinks that messed up.

at least one way of talking about this is that it is a kind of sin. >> tucker: you shudder to think of the torments waiting for you and father pete's episcopalian version of hell imagine him lecturing you for eternity wagging his little fingers in your face and bragging about his virtue. it's enough to make you want to obey. father pete though there is no such judgment because at the very same time he is lecturing you father pete himself is likely to be sipping perrier in the gulf stream. according to an associated press report, buttigieg flies on climate-destroying private jets more than any other democratic candidate in the race right now appeared how can that be? we asked the buttigieg campaign that question today and here's their response. "we fly commercial as often as possible and only fly noncommercial when the schedule dictates." noncommercial, that makes sense. so when it's convenient, father

buttigieg follows his own commandments. the rest of the time, when the schedule dictates, he is happy to belch poison into the air of creation. so you are not allowed to drink from a plastic straw -- that's immoral -- but father pete gets to keep his private plane. no wonder rich people love climate activism. by them, it's all upside. it's not so great for everyone else, unfortunately. for poor people in the third world, it's going to be especially tough. they are not going to be allowed to have as many children as they would like. watch bernie sanders this morning. >> empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population seems a reasonable campaign to enact. would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophes? >> the answer is yes, and the answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the united states of america, by the way, have the right to control

their own bodies and make reproductive decisions. [applause] and the mexico city agreement, which denies american aid to those organizations around the world that are -- that allow women's to have abortions, or even get involved in birth control, to me, is totally absurd. >> tucker: oh, there you go. sanders says it right out loud, the africans are having too many babies. we have to make sure those africans have more abortions. we are going to pay for african abortions. we are also, by the way, going to have to control what people eat, how they travel, what they do for a living. we have to control every detail of their formerly personal lives. we are in charge now of everything. that's the message. suddenly, you realize none of this has much to do with the environment. justin is editorial director of the heartland institute and he joins us tonight. justin, thanks for coming on. so, once again, if you really were concerned about climate

change, your emphasis might be on the behavior of other countries, re-foreign stra d4 station, but instead i notice a theme through these proposals, which is all about control and empowering the people who make the proposals. am i missing something? >> no, you're not missing anything. this is all about authoritarianism. the theme might've been climate change, but the actual theme was authoritarianism. that's what this was all about. force control and be in inflation. if you really care about the environment, i mean really clear about it, the last thing you would want is control the entire country run on solar and wind because if you have the entire country running on solar and wind, you would need a land mass the size the state of california. how many millions of acres of land, how many millions of trees, how many millions of animals would we have to kill in order to make that reality happen?planet?

that's the message that we are getting now? this is not about climate change, it's not about environmentalism, it's never been about that. it's about force control and manipulation. >> tucker: i don't get the sense that any of these people ever go outside. like, when was the last time they went camping? do they know anything? i'm serious, do they know anything about the environment? are they interested at all? do they ever spend time there, really? >> if you look at bernie sanders, it doesn't seem like he does, probably, but the truth is they don't care about that, tucker. they don't care about it. >> tucker: that's very obvious. >> they care about increasing their own power, expanding the power of the ruling class. that's what this has been about 450 years, making climate change predictions. they talk about the global population crisis, global cooling, how we are going to be running out of food -- none of these things have happened, but they keep making these predictions because they believe that if they make them enough, people will listen to them and

give them enough power over our lives so they can control virtually every aspect of society. that's the point of all of this. >> tucker: wait, you are holding them accountable on their predictions? you are making so, for example, i read this a denier. today, 19 years ago the united nations predicted officially predicted that by the year -- by president, bangladesh would be largely underwater. there are many predictions like that. it's not. why is no one who makes those predictions -- al gore included -- ever held account to them? >> to be perfectly honest, because many people in the media and academia and elsewhere have been kind of colluding together in order to make sure that regular people don't find out about it unless they watch shows like this. and unless they are watching "tucker carlson tonight" or fox news, they don't learn the truth about these things. if they are told there is a climate crisis that is going to be a disaster, and if they don't vote for a democrat god was going to save us all from climate catastrophe, we are all

going to die. 20 years or 30 years or 40 years -- 120 years or 30 years or 40 years comes along and we are not dead, just wait another ten years and we will all be dead. and they keep doing this over and over and over again. >> tucker: was truly infuriating as those of us who deeply care about the natural world and the environment, who really do, watch as these people make our country dirtier. much dirtier. and nobody says anything about this. and then they lecture us as if they have moral standing on the environment? they don't know anything about the environment. it's disgusting, it infuriating. justin, thank you for putting that in perspective. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: i will calm down as we move into our next segment. cnn hosts, they were treating hurricanes like something caused by donald trump. watch. >> storms intensifying, that's just one sign of the dangerous

world that scientists tell us we are entering if humans don't cut carbon pollution in half in the next 11 years. >> bigger fires in the west, supercharged storms like the one we see now, hurricane dorian. >> we are seeing firsthand the effects of climate change as a powerful atlantic hurricane is sitting right now off the coast of florida. >> tucker: chris plante hosts "the chris plante show," many years he worked for the cable news network, and he joins us tonight. you look over there, there's a collection of people, not one with an iq over 100, none with a background in science, lecturing us about things they don't understand at all. and i can't help but think it's purely political. >> you can't help but think that? what a cynic you have become, honestly. >> tucker: [laughs] >> that was just good journalism. that was award-winning journalism. they did everything they are supposed to do, adopt the lexicon of the democratic party and the weather apocalypse cro

crowd. the weather palooza, every anchr on cnn showcased at one time or another, who proved every time he gets the chance that he doesn't know anything. they can faithfully parrot the party line. even the graphics had a climate crisis, the word crisis in red, and it was all very frightening. it's an existential threat, and we have only 11 years because some nameless, faceless group in the united nations who aren't really scientist at all came up with a report that we treat as the new bible because, as voltaire predicted, when you kill god, it will be necessary to create him again. they have created god, and it is them. we will be happy to know that it is them. cnn last night, they gifted everything to the democrats. they really -- i guess they should ask questions, they should ask hardball questions, which they are, of course, did not do. they could have done things, you

mentioned the report, bangladesh and being underwater by now. i have a story from 1989, the last century, the headline is "u.n. predicts disaster if global warming not checked." by the year 2000, it was a 10-year timeline, 1989, and if we didn't fix it by the year 2000, disaster would be everywhere, it would be the apocalypse. your last guest, justin, is 100% right. they keep updating the apocalypse. when i was a teenager, it was becoming ice age, armadillos -- because they knew -- remember it, the armadillos were fleeing because they knew the ice was coming. >> tucker: the polar bears of their time. >> they really were. armadillos in a coal mine. >> tucker: [laughs] >> it was a climate palooza, cnn was in on the joke, carried the party line 100% of the way. there are a lot of questions you can ask about whether you really believe if you make these

changes, the storm off the east coast would be smaller, there would be fewer hurricanes. where there any questions like that at all? the trillions and trillions of dollars, radical idea arms, none of this question, the budget was never question -- none of it was ever questioned. it was classic. >> tucker: it was perfect in that way. chris plante, great to see you tonight. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: joe biden was also there tonight, the purported democratic front-runner. he didn't say much about global warming that was interesting. not more interesting than the story he himself created by being there. it wasn't good. at one point, while trying to answer a question, biden aimed to lose his train of thought completely. >> that saves the billions of gallons of gasoline. i mean, billions -- two-point -- i think it is $2.3 billion -- excuse me, $500 billion of savings, to point something

billion metric tons of co2 going in the air. there is a whole range of things going on now, in terms of, you know -- anyway, i'm taking too long, sorry. >> tucker: it's almost mean to put that on tv, i'm being honest, we feel a little bad about it. he's running for president, though, that was on television live last night, so there you go. then, as if that wasn't concerning enough, biden appeared to have blood coming out of one of his eyes. should we be worried about him? dr. marc siegel is a fox medical contributor, and he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. first, the more dramatic news, biden did have blood in his eye. what might that have been? >> that's the more dramatic. and by the way, of course, i haven't examined him, i'm not his position, but that appears to me to be something called a sub contra hemorrhage, a blood vessel leaking just below the eye, and usually it is benign, it goes away on its own, and nothing to worry about.

as you get older, it can have something to do with high blood pressure or bleeding problems or circulatory problems, but most of the time, no. so that, in itself, looked worse than it probably was. but it does -- the other clip you showed, tucker, where he appeared confused, that has been happening in increasing amounts, where he seems to forget what state he is in, the timeline of the parkland school shooting, things like that are really concerning to me. again, i don't know the answer to why that's happening, but i want to point something out: he had those aneurysms clipped, surgically, back in 1988. you know what happened in 1990? we developed a new technique to do that, where we went in through the artery itself, which was a miracle, a change. now we do these procedures are something called a coil that we put right in the artery to the brain, a technological advancement. he didn't have that. he had a great surgeon who said he is fine now, but i've looked

at studies from 2000 and 2006, and again, i'm not necessarily talking about him, i'm talking about a patient who had the procedure he had, with an aneurysm, some leaking into the brain. down the line, you can see, quite often, cognitive changes. problems with thinking, problems with concentration, problems with orientation, so that's on my mind, that might be something we would consider. we don't know if it's true in his case, but i am seeing what looks like it could be problems with thinking, orientation, and memory. >> tucker: i've got to say -- i mean this with sincerity -- i know that will be me someday. speak with man has been through a lot, tucker. a very courageous -- >> tucker: i agree. i just want to make it clear we are not mocking him. good to see you. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: we have mocked the mayor of new york,

bill de blasio. yesterday, he called us and said he has a new policy idea we might be interested in talking about. it turns out, we are. it's not entirely crazy. bill de blasio joins us right after the break that also, hurricane dorian hitting the carolinas tonight, as we speak, we are tracking that storm, and we will bring you those developments throughout the hour. ♪ ♪

♪ >> tucker: so, in the three or so years of this show has been on the air, we have taken a bunch of different positions on a bunch of different topics, but one thing we have been consistent about is making fun of bill de blasio, the mayor

of new york. on every topic. if you watch this show, you know. then, the other day, came to our attention that de blasio has raised issues that too few and either party are talking about, the question of automation. he has a piece in "wired" magazine. his position on automation struck us as interesting, so yesterday we had a very from the conversation, inviting mayor de blasio to come on the show to talk about that, and other things. he was gracious enough to respond, so we're happy to have married bill de blasio join us tonight come alive. mr. mayor, thanks for coming on pit >> thank you, tucker, and i appreciate you care deeply about this issue, because it is bearing down on all of us. >> tucker: it is, it is. my praise of you on this question is totally sincere. very few people are taking this series. andrew yang is one, you are another. i can't think of many who are, so bless you. you're basically saying that companies ought to have too -- i'm not so how much of this i agree with, but i think of raising this correctly -- you

say companies ought to have to bear some of the cost of helping workers transition to something else when they lay them off in favor of robots. >> that's right. right now, let's get the magnitude clear for all of your viewers. middle-class americans, working-class americans whose jobs are not going to be there if we don't do something different. right now, the recent estimate i saw, 36 million jobs that could be made obsolete. we are talking as early as 2030, 12 years ahead, 11, 12 years from now. so here's the reality: right now, in fact, the federal tax code rewards companies that invest in the kind of technology that actually sheds jobs. destroys jobs. our tax dollars are helping companies incentivizing companies to get rid of more and more american workers. so my plan is simple, end that. we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars that we could use to actually address

our bigger issues in this country. >> tucker: i'm completely with you on that one. a lot of details we disagree on, but i agree with that. >> by the way, south korea's doing that right now. they recognize a big nonstop incentivizing companies, companies are making the decision simply because it is better for their tax reality, rather than what is better for working people, or even productivity. the second point of my plan is, let's institute something -- bill gates was actually the first want to call for, i think, which is "robot" tax, which as a worker pays income tax. you take away millions and millions of workers, it's a lot less revenue to take care of our society. it means, of course, millions and millions of people don't have a livelihood. i believe and work, i think you do come too. we need a future based on work. if a company is going to put thousands of people out of work, they should bear responsibility making sure those folks get a job, either the same company or

elsewhere. that tax is both an incentive to keep people on the job, in a good way, a productive way, and also provides money to help foster, from the federal level, the kind of things we need a lot more of. we need more investment in renewable energy, recycling, environmental restitution -- >> tucker: let me ask you this question, though. i'm not sure i think -- it's not totally crazy, i'm happy to read and think about it more. we are together up until this point, but if you really believe that automation is a threat to low skill jobs, why are you for mass immigration? water all of of these people going to do? >> i'm going to finish the point of what we're doing here. i certainly want to answer that question, it's an important one. let's be clear about the central point: right now, there is no american strategy -- no federal government strategy to address automation, and it could be the single most destructive force in our society that we've ever experienced. if you talk about tens of millions of working-class and middle-class americans are no longer have work or the prospect

of work, that's an acceptable. the federal government has to step up. there is no strategy now, no candidate, in my opinion, who is offering coherent strategy. >> tucker: immigration is a close second as a force of transforming the country. the two are at cross purposes. immigrants come here overwhelmingly to work low skilled jobs. a lot of jobs, no matter how hard we try, are going away. this is crazy. why are we doing this? >> let's face it, huge number of jobs right now, and let's take agriculture is an obvious example, in the worst of all worlds. we don't have enough workers to do the work among the people already in this country, and we don't have a coherent immigration system, including something as obvious as a guest worker program, a legal guest worker program. >> tucker: that's a separate debate. i disagree, but that's not -- the much bigger picture is jobs in the service sector are going

away. the immigrants fill. immigrants over a million a year -- >> i appreciate your point, but the magnitude speaks otherwise. again, let's take that number, 36 million. there are estimates that go a lot farther than that, tucker. we are not talking about the impact of immigration, we are talking about something absently seismic. i think you and i share this concern. a huge percentage of your viewers do come too. a threat to our security, to our country, our social fabric, and no strategy whatsoever. recent tax legislation made it worse. encouraged companies to lay off more workers and to put the money into machines. >> tucker: so what you're saying, and i agree with you, we have this massive problem that everyone is ignoring. on that point, i want to transition to the city you run in new york, where i was yesterday. of the city is dirty, and it's getting dirtier. one of my producers told me just yesterday that he was in a

crowded subway car, a man dropped his trousers and defecated, and no one did anything. as a metaphor for what's going on. under your mayor ship, it's dirtier, there is filth on the sidewalks -- do you notice any of that? >> tucker, look, here's what is going on in new york city today. we have challenges, no doubt. i don't accept a situation like that. i'm someone who believes quality-of-life has to be addressed aggressively. i believe in quality of life policing, i always have. that situation is not acceptable for the big picture is where the safest big city in america. it's proven statistically, time and time again, 500,000 new jobs since i became mayor. the largest number of jobs in our history right now, the strongest economy we've ever had. we've got problems, unquestionably. but there's also a lot of areas where this city is doing very, very well. and the bottom line here is that we are addressing -- >> tucker: okay, but you endorsed decriminalizing public

urination. >> that is absolutely false. listen. any offense like that gets a summons, there is a penalty. if there is definitely a sanction. >> tucker: you weakened the sanction against public urination. do you notice that? >> i go all over new york city all the time. i've been here for decades and decades. the city is more orderly and cleaner and safer than it's been for many, many years. we've got more to do, and we're going to keep making it better. >> tucker: 14,000 more homeless people on the streets than the day you took office. >> that's just not true. and the bottom line here -- >> tucker: i have the numbers right here, it's almost 15,000. 64,0664,060 the day her predecer left, now it's -- >> tucker, obviously we can reason together. there is a federal count every year for the number of homeless on the street. it's give or take 4,000.

a lot of people in the shelter system. we are driving down that number. i'm not happy, even, about 4,000 people on th the street. the difference for what you can see in new york, you see it on safety and jobs and higher graduation rate in our schools, we continue to make progress in the city. we are going to make a lot more. but to the original point of the conversation -- >> tucker: let me ask a concrete question. if i live in new york and there is a homeless man outside my building, who defecates on the sidewalk, is not grounds to be arrested in the city? >> it certainly can be. >> tucker: can you be arrested for defecating? >> anyone who is a threat to themselves or others, anyone who violates a law, anyone who is aggressive towards other people, there is a whole host of standards by which someone could be arrested, and we do that, and we will continue to do that.

but again, the bottom line here is we are talking about real issues. >> tucker: these are -- >> we should be talking about -- the future of working people in this country, and where you and i started, i'm coming back. if we don't -- we are two the only people talking about it right now -- if we don't deal with the fact that tens of millions of american workers may not have a job, and we may have a future without work, and our social fabric would be destroyed, and that is a threat to america's security. we don't deal with this with this election, we are going to rue the day. actually do something about it. >> tucker: essentially nonpartisan person, i'm happy to compliment you with total sincerity on matt. i'm just saying, the actual reality of life in the city that you manage matters. the biggest city in our country. i've lived there on and off my whole life. that city is not getting better

under your mayor ship. >> unless you don't -- tucker, unless you don't believe the nypd, which consistently. yesterday we had a press conference, crime continues to go down year after year, it's an extraordinary effort by the nypd, using apologies and strategies that i've instituted in my administration, as part of what is working. how do you have 500,000 new jobs in six years? how do you have a record of tourists? if it's this horrible of a health scape you are describing? >> tucker: you are arguing across what i'm saying. so the city is doing so well, you have a net inflow of people into new york city -- oh, no, just the opposite. you lost 40,000 people in the last year. >> we have 6 million residents, 8.6 million residents, the highest we had in our history. the highest population in our

history. we have the highest population in our history, that's what matters. people are investing in the city because it's working. i'm the first to say because i do live here, and i feel everything -- i've been here for decades and decades. we've got things to work on, for sure. we've got areas where we are not needing to be. but when you go back to the central question -- tucker, do people create hundreds of thousands of new jobs in a place that's not working? >> tucker: most new yorkers are liberal, so they agree with you on the macro issues. if you were to say, what is bill de blasio's belief, your average new yorker's belief, a lot of overlap, but if you ask the average new yorker, has bill de blasio done such a good job in new york city that he deserves to run the united states of america, what percentage would say yes? >> i don't know yes, i know they got to vote twice, 73% in my first election, -- >> tucker: a tiny number -- >> especially in a race for president, what have you done it makes you to know mike able to

be president of united states, e safest we've ever been, the smartest economy we've ever been, the most diverse place, and our social fabric is a lot stronger than it was six years ago. there's a lot i can show you that actually has to do with how you run something and move something forward, and where we started. i'm talking about issues related to working people that, bluntly, neither democrats or republicans talk enough about. my whole reason for running for mayor was to address the issues of working people, and that is what we have been able to do in the city. >> tucker: the biggest private-sector employers -- who are they in new york city? >> chase manhattan is one great example. >> tucker: chase is number one. jpmorgan chase. speak on using an old phrase. >> tucker: the biggest private sector employer in the city that you run, the biggest city in america, so obviously the head of that company, jamie dimon, must be a huge supporter of yours and a donator to your presidential campaign. >> 's logic pattern just doesn't

hold. the question is this, a bunch of people running for president -- >> tucker: don't support you, why is that? >> we have different views. and by the way, a ceo of a major financial institution is the last person to support me because i believe we have to be tougher on wall street, i believe we have to stand up for working people, tax the wealthy a lot more than we are. i'm a progressive who cares about -- why would you think the ceo of a bank with support someone like me, that is concerned about working people, middle-class people? >> tucker: i'll answer your question. because you are the mayor of the city. and they have tens of thousands of employees living in your city. at some level, not ideological. i don't think jamie dimon, the head of the company, is a conservative -- she's not. it's not about the ideology. it's not about banks, it's about when they are making the city better. >> i know him and i respect him, and i think he often speaks about important issues, but we have a very different world view surprise me that he would not

support someone who wants to tax the wealthy a lot more and wants to challenge wall street and believes we have to do more for working people in this country. >> tucker: name one -- just one. >> i don't play these games. >> tucker: is not a game, it's a question. speak of the democratic party, for too long, has been way too cozy with donors, wall street. the whole reason we are having a good conversation on automation is i don't care about what those donors think. i don't care about what folks in silicon valley, who are trying to justify the technology is somehow going to save us all, they are resting their laurels on the universal basic income. and this is another fallacy, tucker. maybe it's part of a solution in some way, shape, or form but when i hear about that kind of idea, it's a crutch, it's a way for a bunch of people to make a huge amount of money, to make their own consciousness

feel better, but it's going to lead to a future without work, and the last thing we need -- i'm a progressive, i'm a democrat, i believe and work. i believe work gives people a lot of value, a lot of meaning, and we need to protect work in this country. there's a whole lot of wealthy people who are happy to run all the way to the bank and leaf working people behind, then they will say i will send you a check. that's ridiculous. >> tucker: you're right. by the way, if you ever known had inherited money people, they are the unhappiest people in america, so you don't want to encourage into lance barrett quick final question: how can you take an suv to the gym and back every day and say that you are worried about climate change? i know it is a petty question. >> is a chrysler pacifica appeared as a hybrid electric, not an suv, first of all. look, i come from a neighborho neighborhood, i go back to my neighborhood all the time. it's the way, to me, that i stay connected to people, i'm able to

have a routine that allows me to be 24/7 the best mayor i can be. >> tucker: should the climate have to pay the cost of that? >> come on, a few miles. tucker here's the great part of all of this -- >> tucker: what do you mean, "oh, come on?" >> no, no, the point is, wherever i go -- if i take a subway, cars follow me for security reasons. anyway you slice it, i'm doing what is going to help me be the best i can for the people of the city, that's my am proud to say this is a city, the safest big city in america, a city moving forward in so many ways. but if we don't get these bigger issues right, and i've got to tell you, you can be mayor, feel like, wow, i'm able to do things, but if washington doesn't address the kind of things that cities and states can't do, if washington doesn't address this automation issue, we are all screwed. it's not a 2020 issue, and we need to make it a 2020 issue. >> tucker: we are going to

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♪ >> tucker: welcome back. we are returning to our unexpected, but i think genuinely interesting conversation with the mayor of new york city, bill de blasio. if you watch the show, you know there is someone we have attacked a lot, gracious enough to have a conversation, and we are grateful for that. i want to ask you about whether you are going to stay in the presidential race appeared there was a maritime space that said you are not, but before i do come i want to ask about one ofr policy positions. you ar have said you are for automatic buybacks of semiautomatic rifles. there are tens of millions of these rifles in circulation, and

presumably some won't feel like selling them to the government. what do you do with those people? >> that's a good question, tucker. i think if you get to the point -- i think we have to do -- were you ban assault weapons, you've seen the horrifying attacks. let me make it human for you, i run the biggest school system, where doing active shooter drills regularly. i hear from parents, go to town hall meetings, they are more worried about their kids than i've ever seen because they really think an active shooter situation could happen, because it's become a norm in this country. obviously, that almost always involves assault weapons. they got to end the availability of assault weapons in this country. i think if there was a ban on assault weapons on there was a buyback program, the vast majority of people would do the smart thing, and they would sell them back. i don't have -- >> tucker: but hold on, millions wouldn't. you would have law-abiding people, like me, and like a lot of people i know, who have

hunting rifles that fall under assault weapon category, and the cops would show up and say, give us your gun, and they would say no, you would have unfortunately, tragically, cases of violence. are you okay with that? >> i'm being honest with you. i think anyone in public life should say, you know, when we think we have an answer or something we still have to work out. when i know is this: we cannot have assault weapons in our society. we've seen the devastating impact where they need to be banned. that means, by definition, you don't leave millions and millions of them out there appear to be buyback is the obvious approach to how we deal with someone who doesn't want to participate in a buyback, i do something to resolve going forward, but to me, the logic you start with -- >> tucker: do you have the definition of assault weapon? a lot of deer rifles would qualify as an assault weapon. would those be taken too? >> i'm someone who understands, under the second amendment, there are going to be plenty of appropriate weapons that people can use for self-defense, for

hunting, if they are a sportsman, a marksman, there's also some weapons that still would qualify for people to ha have. but the military grade assault weapons, those just don't belong in the hands of everyday people. >> tucker: would you subject your body guards to the same limitations as other american citizens? >> again, tucker, i respect you, but that is a question it makes no sense whatsoever. >> tucker: of course it does. i've got a family, just as you do. hold on. you get free bodyguards, i don don't. your bodyguards living at your house. >> by definition -- >> tucker: i know some of the bodyguards living at your house, okay, and they have magazines that i can't protect my family with? does that bother you, as a champion of the little guy? >> tucker, someone who serves in public service and the society where living income i hate to say this, but public servants are vulnerable to violence. >> tucker: a lot of us are vulnerable --

>> absolutely, our law enforcement officers are there to protect all of us. >> tucker: does it bother you that you get guns to protect yourself and your family, but i can't use them to protect my family? >> doesn't make any sense -- >> tucker: it makes sense to me. >> i spent my whole life until very recently, an average citizen with no different protection than you or any other american, for a very brief period of my life -- >> tucker: will you pledge not to allow your bodyguards to carry any weapon that you would -- yes, you will. your bodyguards are outside our building right now. i just want you to say, when you leave office, you will not allow anyone to carry a weapon that you would ban -- >> the point is, let's go back to what we were talking about. there should not be assault weapons endangering children in america. period. and we should do whatever we have to do -- >> tucker: law-abiding citizens like me or not endangering children, okay?

>> you don't think the assault weapons used in these horrible massacres are a problem in this country? i think they are. i think we've seen children killed in their schools with these assault weapons assault weapons. >> tucker: it's horrifying, by lunatics paired the guns didn't do it. >> should not be easily available to so many people, and they are, they just are. it has to end. >> tucker: the people in power shouldn't have special exemptions, like the one you are giving yourself. >> law enforcement -- assault weapons do not belong in the hands of civilians. >> tucker: are you planning to stay in the race? "the new york times" reported -- >> yeah, i said very clearly, my goal is to get to the next debates. a month away until the cut off period, and i'm going to put ideas out there that i think are going to be meaningful to people. if more and more people vote and provide donations, go to bill de blasio.com. even a $1 donation helps me to get to the next debate.

presenting ideas like this that could actually change things for working people, i think the more i get out there with that, the more chances are i can get into those october debates. >> tucker: there was a report saying you worked a total of seven hours in the month for the city of new york. did you think you're shortchanging -- >> it's not even true. >> tucker: how can you run a city of 8 million and run for president of the same time? are you superman? >> you are raising a very important question peer who should be president in the united states? somebody who runs a big, complicated place, and has been able to move it forward? or people who don't run anything? this is my sixth year. i put together a strong team, and we have been able to put up real, serious, foundational changes, the safest big city in america. highest graduation rate we have ever had. showed you a bunch of other examples. >> tucker: most public -- >> i think real time and energy -- but i'm able to come

as a ceo, keep making sure my agencies are doing their jobs, the people i put in charge are doing their job. but any ceo in the world does come up public-sector or private sector, and that is what qualifies you to be president of the united states. you know how to run something as big as new york city, is he warm up for the bigger job. >> tucker: i'll tell you what puts you in a good race, having the stones to come on the show. i respect that. >> you know what, tucker, we should never be afraid to have a real dialogue and a real debate with each other, regardless of use. i've also said i have had real differences with what i think this network stands for, but i also respect the millions and millions of people watching this network, the working americans, middle-class americans, and i think we need to buy for every one of those votes and show people the respect of going on a network they watch. we want to show recently that

will make your life better paired this automation issue is a good point. you are talking about it. a lot of other people aren't talking about it. even though you and i disagree on a lot of stuff, i give you credit, you are talking about a big issue that needs to be every day in this dialogue, every day in this debate. if we're not talking about automation, we are not talking about the honest future for working people in this country. >> tucker: mayor bill de blasio of new york city. come back any time here at >> thank, tucker. >> tucker: not long ago, antifa put the journalist andy know in the hospital. "rolling stone" magazine says no, he's actually the villain, antifa are his victims. andy ngo joins us next. ♪

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>> tucker: washington unfortunately is brimming with fakeke journalists who pretend o be brave dissidents. all of thems. grovel to the powerful, every single one of them sucks up. andy gno is not one of those..

for his coverage of antifa's activities, he was doused at first with a milk shake, obviously an assault they were supposed to laught at, but it's not funny. he was put in the hospital with a brain hemorrhage. if anyone deserves to be considered the victim of political violence, it's andy gno because he wasa victim. stone" magazine argues that actually antifa are the victims and andy gno is responsible for "demonizing them." the dumbest, most repulsive article i've seen a long time. andy gno joins us. g what did you think the piece? >> the reason why antifa is such a potent movement is that theycw travelers in the media to provide them consistent, favorable coverage. these writers and journalists nare trying to finish the job that antifa started in june when they beat and robbed me and tried to intimidate me permanently into silence. >> tucker: they are not hiding it. the woman who wrote this piece is endorsingnghe violence.

i mean, they are kind of out of the closet in favor of political violence. >> what's been fascinating and a bit surreal is to watch the machine of the left-wing mediawo work to amplify the claims of an anonymous antifa activist who made the false and defamatory claims that i am party to a violent criminal conspiracywith. that's untrue. it started originally on a tleft-wing blog and was amplifid in media matters, rolling stone daily beast. >> tucker: yeah, i mean, i hope the rest of us don't lie to ourselves about what's happening here because it's getting increasingly obvious, and you're one of its first victims. andy gno, i wish we had more time with you, but thank you very much for coming on.appreci. >> my pleasure. >> tucker: we lost a lot of the show tonight because of our extended interview with the mayor of new york city. "final exam" was among the things wer lost. but, we will bring it tomorrow..

jesse watters versus judge jeanine. have to wait for tomorrow night. 8:00 p.m. friday and every night, the sworn enemy of lying pomposity, smugness and groupthink.sean hannity, live r. >> this is a fox news weather alert. hurricane dorian weakening a bit it as grazes the car lane in a coast, but the categorystorm still packing 100-mile per hour winds as it aims for the outer banks. the storm is already blamed for at least four deaths in the south east. flash gladding is happening and the national weather service is warning of continued liz-threatening flooding across the eastern carolinas and southeast virginia for tonight. on thursday, hurricane dorian spawned tornadoes which ripped off roofs and flipped trailers. hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses along the