ed: happy national tailgating day. pete: ed will be one happy man. ed: join us. neil: finally, dorian is calming but the cost of the storm is growing a lot up to $7 billion in the bahama bahamas and our job numbers are coming down off their blights ring pace the urgency need to strike a deal, nearly all 2020 democrats who want to be president pitching their promises to new hampshire voters today we will take you there live. welcome to cavuto live, i am he, good to have you. first we go to peter doocy with

in manchester, new hampshire, what does it look like there, peter? reporter: neil, we talk so much about national polls and primary polls but this is where the first in the nation primary poll s come to life at the new hampshire democratic party convention you can see everybody that wants to be the democratic nominee is represented, beto o'rourke came, he's been talking a lot lately about gun violence, watch out right behind you, about gun violence and also about families at the border, you've got amy klobuchar here represented, joe biden came to do something he does not normal ly do which is greet his group of supporters and you could see most of them have gone inside because he is about to speak, down here you've got and rye yang pushing for, trying to get support for the universal basic income, $1,000 a month, and at different times everybody has had various amounts of excitement at their tent, but perhaps nobody for as much of a time as bernie sanders over here , because he's doing something nobody has donald that's very few people have been

passing by, they've got ben & jerries giving out ice cream, from vermont right next door, have been some of senator sanders biggest surrogates throughout his campaign and lack at this. you try to get this big contest to see who can get the most people to join them after this and we've got ben and jerry we're live with neil cavuto ben. >> cavuto what's going on baby. reporter: how many scoops of ice cream do you think until it makes a difference for bernie? >> we've been scooping thousands and thousands of scoop s and we will scubas many as we can because bernie is the guy whose going to solve a lot of problems in our country. it works for regular working people instead of corporations that would be nice don't you think? reporter: that is for everybody here to decide. so thank you very much. ben and jerry?

neil: thank you very much. try the chunky monkey, it's perfection. reporter: and neil, they have added on to the sanders slogan and saying medicare for all and ice cream for all. neil? neil: it's a good goal at least the ice cream for all. thanks very much meanwhile the 2020 candidates are promising government fixes on everything from dealing with climate and health care with student loan debt so the president is pound ing immigration reform playing off the good economy that he says is the envy of the world so what are voters going to buy, new york city councilman joins us, nathan ruben, and fox news contributor kat tempf. it's all about showcasing and saying i've got what you new hampshire voter want. so we focus on national polls but really we know this is a race by race event. new hampshire obviously crucial to get that going. >> right and when voters in new hampshire are much more progressive than voters in a lot

of the other states we saw bernie creamed hillary in 2016 in new hampshire, i think it's interesting though that biden is still ahead because the vote is kind of split between bernie and now we have elizabeth warren in the race whose also very progressive, but just because voters are very progressive here we need to remember if the democrats want to defeat donald trump and i'm getting the vibe that they do they are going to want to focus a little bit on the general as well as just the individual state by state, because primary voters are more progressive, overall and then in new hampshire particularly so. neil: new hampshire plays off whose ever close to that market and it would be elizabeth warren , bernie sanders, in vermont, elizabeth warren of course from massachusetts, normally, it's the massachusetts rep who has the edge, john kennedy had it in 1960, john kerry had it in 2004. i'm wondering whether that might have played elizabeth warren now it's possible, definitely but i think bernie sanders looms larn over the new hampshire primary

but what's really interesting about this particular moment there are kind of three thins that stick out to me the most. we're starting to see the democratic field really wind el down to 10 candidates on one debate stage, and of those 10, there are three to five that continually draw big crowds, that is continued support, and what's interesting is in the head-to-head matchup between those top five and donald trump, they're all beating him in those national polls. there was a poll last week that came out that showed biden plus 16, sanders plus 14, warren plus 12, harris plus 11, mayor pete plus nine, so when we talk about which message is resonating with the broader electorate it's pretty clear. neil: but in the battleground states that you indicated it's not a national election well joe biden still enjoys a comfortable lead and with the others it's a little closer. joe i'm wondering in a race by race primary by primary, the president has a strong economy

we've gotten since losing a little bit of wind out of itself but still pretty good. how does this play out? >> i think it's still tremendously good. you talk about new hampshire you only lost the state by 3,000 votes less than 1% so it's a state that's certainly in play. neil: but doing much better now economically but is the president going to get the benefit of that? >> i think the president is getting the benefit if you look at the polls that nathan referenced from barack obama in 2011, he was doing equally poorly in some of the polls and they just proved completely wrong like a lot of the polls in 2016. neil: what are you surprised at this stage where the economy is doing what it's doing, you should be a double-digit sector. >> i'd like to see the president up by a landslide but the reality is what are these democrats offer offering voters of new hampshire. if you looked at the cnn climate change panel just last week and look at democrat voters who said climate change isn't their top issue in new hampshire for 2020. neil: but it is with the

passionate base. >> but it's an open primary state and no republican primary on the ballot so you might have moderates in the race. neil: kat, we'll talk about it but reporter conditions are also facing a lot of incumbents either leaving or indicating that this is it for them. i think we're now up to more than a dozen in the house four in the senate. are they getting out of dodge while the getting is good? >> yeah, some people might say that it's because of trump, some people say no it isn't. things have definitely changed, and i think that republicans overall particularly the president should be doing better more to your point earlier. i think that a lot of it has to did with not staying on message and a lot is because the president doesn't stay on message. he will forever go with the hurricanes, yes, alabama i mean he spent a lot of time and effort on that and a lot of republicans. neil: well they did go over that right? it was a mistake and the president kept on people are dying in the bahamas. >> i don't think it was a big

deal at all but republicans will be better served if they just ignored small things like that, because come on. who really cares? but isn't that indicative of how this president operates though? he gets fixated on something that is meaningless but he has to be right. he can't admit a mistake and that's why he received these republicans getting out of dodge as you said they just don't want to be in an environment any more neil: well you're not blaming all of that on the president right? a lot of people just they get on to that right? >> could be. >> politics doesn't sound fun. i don't think i could last very long. i would win, and everyone would want me back, but it's time for me to start a family. neil: i understand, joseph? >> look i don't think the president obsesses over small things this was an issue driven by the media. i think his last twice actually whether you like what the president tweets it was extreme ly hysterical because it put a lot of egg on the face of cnn when their own people were

saying alabama was in the path. >> i don't want a president that puts egg on the face of people. i want a president who leads and tweets out correct information. >> eggs are actually great for your skin. neil: joe biden now this is the state's convention, with the party and it's interesting, i noted that it says that biden is addressing the group there, he has a lead. it's not a big lead in new hampshire, elizabeth warren and bernie sanders just a couple of points behind him but if he doesn't win new hampshire is the argument going to be what it was before thatwhen he won, well he's a neighbor and that's why. >> i don't think so. i think that we're starting to see the biden campaign temper expectations for iowa and new hampshire pinning their hopes on south carolina where he does have african american support. i think what we'll see is similar to how barack obama's win in iowa settled the elect

ability kind of question. neil: but he went on to lose. >> he went on to win the nomination so my point is if joe biden loses it's really hard to make the elect ability argument because he just lost so i think we'll start to see that support move over. neil: but to be clear one thing to lose one or the other, it's quite another if you lose both. if you were to lose iowa and new hampshire. >> they would be in a crisis i think. neil: what do you think? >> i think new hampshire is a make or break moment for joe biden. they have people that respect the democratic party. david axelrod was tweeting out saying how biden is becoming this gaffe and if he doesn't pull off something in new hampshire and iowa it's tough to tell voters in south carolina that he's worth voting for. >> i think the only reason why he might have more of a chance in new hampshire is because the progressive vote is split

between biden and warren. if it was just one or the other in the race, he wouldn't have a shot. neil: we'll be monitoring that very very closely because they are all there not missing a chance to sort of get their two bits in. in the meantime we are still focusing on the remnants of dorian and that might be dismissing it right now, premature again they are still looking for survivors even the death toll is at 43 fears it could go into the hundreds or thousands. let's go to rick richmuth on what the storm is doing right now. rick: so well this is what the storm did at least in the mainland u.s. , strongest wind we've seen was in cape lookout, north carolina, before it made landfall and we definitely have strong winds that are this morning across cape cod and the islands in in fact tropical storm warnings for that kind of winds winds over 39 miles an hour this is the radar picture you see the rain leaving massachusetts now rain is moving in towards areas of maine that's all part of this exact same storm. that's what is kind of the bulk of the storm right here, still a

hurricane, and winds sustained at 85 miles an hour getting close to nova scotia where it makes landfall as a hurricane and potentially cause pretty significant damage across the canadian maritimes. what we'll see across areas of maine is strzok wind, and definitely rain, and that kind of pink that you see is indicative of the winds we'll see. that's the overall area of low pressure. this is the future radar, what the radar is going to look like throughout the day. eastern maine, you've got the last spot in the u.s. from this, by around 3:00-4:00, this afternoon it's out of there and then we likely have some sort of a landfall there across areas of nova scotia, prince edward island, we'll see winds 80 miles an hour so not fully done with this but we are almost done with this and that will be good news for everybody to begin to clean up across the u.s. which we're doing now especially out across north carolina the bahamas story will be with us probably for years. neil: just amazing almost like

reenactment of the whole puerto rico thing when we got into these rural areas people couldn't access that's when we found out there was quite a few more casualties than originally reported. rick richmuth, thank you very much on all that. well a lot of groups are rushing into the bam has bahamas to help out and deal with a real humanitarian crisis and we'll go oyond anything that you've seen before, after this. ♪ goin' down the only road i've ever known ♪ ♪ like a drifter i was-- ♪ born to walk alone! ...barb! you left me hangin' on the high harmony there. if you ride, you get it. geico motorcycle. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more.

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day, we will be bringing 10,000 meals to the people of grand bahama and then every day after that, we will start a 20,000 meals and if the need is there we will grow it. neil: indeed royal caribbean is putting its money where its mouth and promises are, and then some going way beyond that initiative that was just announced a few days ago by the ceo of royal caribbean on that in just a second we're getting new video that is coming in from the bahamas paradise cruise lines grand celebration docking in freeport earlier today, this is in florida after transporting better than 1,000 evacuees from the bahamas, but again this is something that has grown en politico then shaly as we got more indications of people that have not only lost their homes but many many more might have lost something far more valuable their lives, the early count says officially 43 but as steve harrigan has been reporting it could be substantially worse. he is in nassau the bahamas,

steve? reporter: neil we are likely to see that number change in the coming days because the destruction in the parts of the northern bahamas is almost complete in some areas especially on abaco island where neighborhoods have been wiped off the map. about 13,000 houses gone, tens of thousands of people in desperate need of food, water, communication, they simply don't have anything and anyone who can get off the island is trying to get off the island. we've seen a number of rescues carried out here, helicopter rescued by u.s. coast guard pilots more than 200 people safe and president trump has pledged to continue aid to the bahamas. president trump: i want to give my warmest best wishes to the people of the bahamas i know what you're going through. the united states has come in and we have the coast guard and tremendous numbers of people working there. we're bringing food, water, we're working hard, we're with you and god bless you.

reporter: the death toll officially stands at 43 but where we were yesterday it was clear there are still lots more dead bodies out there in the rubble. here is what that scene looks like. no one knows how many dead bodies are still in the wreckage this was a church where some people tried to find shelter from the storm instead it collapsed killing many. we won't show you but from where i'm standing i can see at least one, two dead bodies bloated and rotting in the sun. the destruction in that area, many people believe will take a complete rebuild. neil back to you. neil: steve, you've covered war zones and natural disasters, manmade disasters, this is in its own category here and it seems to be growing by the hour by the day. you know when you saw that hurricane just sit over that part of the bahamas for 36 hours , you just wondered how

people were dealing with it, with 185-mile per hour winds and when you see the result of it, it looks like someone just shook that island over and over again, down to the foundation. people didn't even know where their own houses were, so the level of destruction is 100% in some areas, neil. neil: you know, steve also thousands, tens of thousands of them left homeless, and that number is going up and it's one thing to return to a home that's battered, quite another to go back to a home that's no longer there. >> or even to recognize the landscape, the trees are down, the houses are gone, so people were actually looking where is my house? they're trying to get on any boat they can to get out of there. it's a desperate situation. neil: for authorities on the scene it has to be overwhelming too. i know the u.s. military officials and the like have sort of been descending on the region to help in that regard but it's just going to take a while, isn't it?

reporter: it's going to take a while and i was surprised at how quiet it was. we saw a few police on foot haphazardly looking for bodies going by sense and smell but no sense of bulldozers, sniffer dogs, you know, people moving some of the rubble around to try and clear roads. that simply isn't happening there yet. neil: all right, steve, thank you very very much. again, we'll update you as well as steve has not only the count they hope for survivors but more often than not those who might have been killed in this storm we told you better than 1,500 evacuees who have been rushed into florida from the grand celebration humanitarian cruise line, to get them the help they need and when they need it. we're told that that ship will be making multiple journeys to do just that. more after this. that is amazing. you wanna see something amazing? go to hilton instead of a travel site and you'll experience a whole new range of emotions like... the relaxing feeling of knowing you're getting the best price. these'll work. the utter delight of free wi-fi... .

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neil: well you want to know just how important next week's session in north carolina it is so important that president trump is holding a rally there on monday with the republican candidate and that candidate north carolina congressional republican the state senator dan bishop we did reach out to his democratic challenger dabbing money creedy. we have yet to hear back. representative very good to have you thanks for coming. >> good morning, neil thanks for having me. neil: it must be an important race if the president is coming to help you . what are the plans for that rally? >> well it's, you know, there's donald trump rallies or an event in themselves and we're looking forward to it. we're surging in the polls. we've had a great week or so and we think the president being here and the vice president by

the way on monday will put us over-the-top on tuesday. neil: you know, it comes at a time when a lot of people are wondering what's going on with republican incumbents who are leaving a special case in your district, or the seat that you're trying to go for but leaving that aside 15 house republicans have opted to take to themselves out of congress right now. it's getting to be worrisome to many in the republican party i guess because this echoes what was going on right before the mid-term election when your party lost control of the house. are you worried about those dynamics? >> not really, neil. i'm focused very much on this race, and from my perspective, this special election and another one that's not really contested in north carolina will give the republican conference the opportunity to go to 200 members on the way back to 218. i think there's a transition based on length of career and so fourth that you're seeing but

i'm confident that we're going to be making progress and retake the house next year. neil: are you surprised that it should be such a battle because people know whether it's republicans doing or not, that under republicans under this white house, the economy has dramatically improved markets despite their gyrations are within a percentage of all-time highs but you shouldn't be in this pickle. why are you? >> well your points well taken. i think we're just sort of in an evolving sense of the country, and finding our new, our way to a new place, and people are actually, if i go across the district talking to people, the things i hear most often is how surprised and even frightened people are by the extraordinary hard left positions you see coming out of the democratic party. people openly embracing socialism and there's a real clear choice in this election between that vision and the trump vision of an economy as you say, that's sort of roaring along, lower taxes, border

security and continue american exceptionalism and on the oater hand you've got a choice of elizabeth warren and beto o'rourke and deborah messing, right down the line, for my opponent and i think people are finding their way to a new moment in american politics, but that's kind of the choice they have, and i'm glad to be on the side that i am of the trump vision. neil: again, the polls mean nothing this early as you indicate, but again, it looked problematic for republicans right now, given all that strength and given everything elsewhere the president is still in a battle just to keep his job let alone you lead an effort to take back the house. having said that, the china trade issue, and the textile industry of course, big not as big as it used to be but in north carolina, are your constituents worried about that and how was that playing out? well what i've heard in talking to people particularly farmers across this distri industry in h

district as well as in north carolina largest industry in the state, their folks are being hurt by that in the short-term by tariffs that they're with the president, and they believe that what the president is doing trying to bring fair trade back and look out for the interest of americans is necessary, and they're with him and so that's the message that i've heard over and over again and i think it's going to be the perspective that i take in congress. neil: so when you sort of size the landscape right now, and you look at interest rates low and going lower, you look at what's happening in the globe and they're going lower too, as a congressman, your responsibilities rise dramatically besides what's happening in your district to take a look at the impact of everything going on in the world , and the fear is that the world could be slipping back into something. are you worried? >> well you always hear talk. things can always be better, but let's face it this economy has

performed very well, and that's what we need. we need common sense solutions to make the lives of americans better and american leadership has always sort of blazed the trail for things to get better, and so we've got a situation in which take my race, you've had millions and millions of dollars poured in here in support of the candidate they want to flip the thing blue to go in a different direction toward ultimately toward socialism, and so there's been all this money flowing in and i've been grateful to have the support of the president. he's contributed to my campaign, we face despite all that money we have others a lot of supporters and we need more support so you got people there go to vote danbishop.com even this weekend and contribute to the campaign. neil: we'll watch it closely sir thank you very much good luck with the rally next week. again we did reach out to democrat dan mccreed it we've yet to hear back but again we shall see. a lot of white house democrats are planning a vote on the

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neil: taking to london right now a little bit of a scuffle going on right now this is for brexit these are brexit supporters those in favor of breaking away

from the rest of europe here, and they don't like the idea of negotiating a new deal or delaying one, until they do get one. but right now, prime minister boris johnson is in the fight of his life. he's not succeeded in that no deal effort, so far, his push for early elections a quick snap election as they call it doesn't seem to have the two-thirds support of bodies of parliament at this stage and these people are frustrated. they all want to make sure it happens. the last case scenario could be they take this to the people again for a vote that was supposedly decided more than three years ago, but so far, apparently it is not decided so we'll keep you up on that. there is separate protests being planned for example, in berlin where they are actually pushing to push against those in britain so, we'll keep track of that and also keeping track right now of the back and fourth with the former defense secretary of the united states who has a book out but here is the difference with the mad dog and his book.

it's not a tell-all. he's not trashing either this president or by and large, the last one he worked for. that mays it stand out because at least in this particular white house when people left that's the first thing they do, they take out a book and usually trash this guy. not so mattis so i asked him why that was or why that is. take a look. >> i'm not going to do what i consider to be the cheap seats having just left the administration and comment or make political assessments. neil: well you did say early on i'm old fashion and i'm right about sitting presidents but you did write about a former one. you didn't bash him but barack obama relieved you of your duties of central command but there, i thought, was very similar rationale for you leaving your post with donald trump.concerns that both men wee

taking troops away at a time you didn't think was necessary. presiden a common theme. >> neil as you know you serve at the pleasure of president whether you're a cabinet, secretary or a again general and those words have to mean something to you when it's not to their satisfaction. i bear no rank to president obama or president trump. the constitution makes very clear the authority neil: but who told you you're relieved? >> in the case of president obama, well what happened was the pentagon announce the my replacement early that i was leaving the job early. neil: did you know that they were going to announce that? >> no i did not but it's not personal. neil: i'm so convinced that's the way i'm going to leave this place. a security guard is going to say here, just follow me. but can you imagine that you get word of mouth through a tertiary

official, scoot down the bench. anyway it's all part of that book that's getting a lot of buzz and the amazon best sell r list is number one on the new york best sell r list without any of the finger pointing or zapping of the former boss that you'd get. charles payne has written a couple of books i've yet to see him trash anyone although i'm worried about the third one because that could be the charm. he joins me right now also a squared research, and our own susan li. charles, you talk about the dynamics for when you sell a book or pitch a book, especially if you come from that world, but you ought to trash people and he opted not to. charles: think about the young lady who just shared information off the record with the journalist recently, and i read reports that she's being offered as she could make as much as $5 million if she wants to ditch the dirt on president trump. i hope she resists it. you've got to really salute general mattis because he has decided to be an officer and a

be man rather than a useful idiot because the same people that want him to come on their airwaves and diss president trump they don't like him. neil: ironically they are the ones who also their ideology is let's get out of this as well, so they aren't pro jim mattis just like not pro a whole lot of other people willing to go on these shows and make this complete turns and say how much they hate president trump, even if they said how much they loved him, you know just not long ago, so he stood up for his principles and you don't see that often and i think we should salute him. neil: he's not hiding his point of view on certain things that he made very clear, he thinks we should value our partnerships and allies, and john mccain was and is a hero and should always be remembered that way but he didn't take the next leap to life, strongly disagreed with the president he just stated that's opinion. i was reading a little bit of the book last night and i really have had a lot of respect, and still have a lot of respect for

general mattis . the book is really about this life and about his whole in the military and he is a revered general. not just from the marines, but across all military people love him, military personnel love him this man is a leader and so it comes across in this book. i'm not his publicist but i was reading it and i think anything he was saying about president obama really was in not necessarily defense just outlin ing what could have happened. for example, he kind of took a hard line on obama not taking that red line. neil: or drawing un line in the sand, the consequence -- >> diminishing the united states role in the middle east and he mentions that but again he doesn't come out against president obama. >> i do enjoy the duty of silence and the elegance general mattis exhibits because he's been pressed on a lot of these interviews on msnbc, they want

this, say something bad about president trump, and the administration. neil: he will never take the bait. you know where he's coming from, because there is a saying in my league, and i stress that a president with whom he's worked between president bush and president obama and president trump that a common theme is when they retreat in the middle of battle or scale back, he thinks that sends it. >> when it comes to foreign relations i spent some time covering hong kong in the asia pacific and they like general mattis are concerned about whether it's short range, ballistic missile tests, going across the korean peninsula and president trump it's not long range missiles but to those in asia they are scared because as general mattis pointed out every ballistic that flies in the air coming from north korea, every time they launch something it could be a start to war. that should be concerning. neil: he made it very very clear what's going on in north carolina he's not a fan of and the letter writing campaign in north carolina and leader to the

president whatever, but he's not smitten by north korea. to that point one of the things he did raise when it comes to china is do not forget what they are doing in hong kong and you were there not too long ago susan but what he seems to be saying is this is linked to these trade talks. you can't not do that. he's worried that china is actually showing its true colors what was was saying is if they can lie to their own people about their own intentions of course the president is right. they are lying to us about what they commit to on a trade pattern. charles: that brings up two things in his resignation letter which wet eappetite of the media he didn't say sincerely, he wrote jim mattis. >> [laughter] charles: but i think he is a little concerned too about this notion he is a war monger. he said like you i have said from the beginning that the armed forces of the united states should not be the policemen of the world so even though i think he's concerned

that he might be painted as a war monger but he also went on to say our approach to china russia governments has to be a lot tougher, so i would think that he would applaud at least this battle we're engaging in with china and it's not just a trade issue it's about national security as well. neil: well he shares the distrust of china. >> he co-authored the counter- injure answer it manual, so of course, he's going to get that reputation of being a war monger, but did he coin the phrase, no better friend no worst enemy than a marine? he's being diplomatic and expresses his diplomacy in ways that aren't necessarily perpetuating violence. neil: guys thank you all very very much and by the way he hates that tag. you have to read the book to find out why but it really bothers him but if that's the worst you could say it's still number one.

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neil: hong kong protesters at it again today this is even after officials were pulling that extradition bill, that was the source of all of this months ago not enough, fox news jonathan hunt in hong kong with the very latest. what's going on there now, jonathan? reporter: neil we're outside the police station in hong kong right now, and we've been in the middle of running battles for several hours tonight between riot police and protesters and this is the police station over my left, you can see one of the offices from that position earlier an officer was aiming a long rifle with loaded with rubber bullets directly at protesters standing right in front of where i am right now.

as far a we're aware, neil this is very interesting, no rubber bullets or tear gas canisters were fired certainly at our location this evening. it was a far more organized, far better coordinated operation by the riot police. they flooded out from the police station here, into the streets and very aggress every went after the protesters, charging at them in large groups, disbursing those protesters without apparently having to resort to the kind of force that we've seen before, the hundreds of tear gas canisters, the hundreds of rounds of rubber bullets being fired in the past and what is very interesting and is worth us pursuing which we are doing at the moment, neil is that there were british commanders involved tonight. very clearly, we heard them, we saw them, speaking with british accents. it appears to me that they have been brought into better organize the hong kong riot

police, to bring their experience of riot control in london and other british cities to the hong kong police to help them out. now, a source told one of our teams from the uk consolate that they deny the addition of any new british police officers here , but i'm not sure that that is true and it might well depend on what the definition of new is , neil but certainly, a much better-organized much more concerted effort to control these crowds tonight on the streets of hong kong without having to resort to violence. that is a significant difference but it has not really changed the crowds a great deal. i can see them they are just a couple hundred yards from me. we can't move this camera because of technological limb limitation, neil, but they do not appear ready to go away as yet we're braced for more clashes but no tear gas or rubber bullets in our location tonight. that is an improvement for everybody after all, neil. neil: indeed, fingers crossed

thank you very much my friend be safe yourself, jonathan hunt in the middle of it all in hong kong where it's 10:50 p.m. there right now. we were getting separate reports as jonathan was speaking that hong kong authorities, police in fact aided by chinese military officials are checking trains going back and forth to the nations airport there, the eighth busiest on the planet to make sure they weren't going there to shut it down and they would arrest a few if they had for example, surgical masks or anything like that hinting they were there to protest and they took them off the trains and nobody knew where he went so no seizure of the airport as they did a couple of weeks ago but authorities on the scene are trying to make sure that does not happen. after this.

neil: all right, the demonstrations at hong kong are continuing on and off this is the 23rd weekend we've been see ing them originally an extradition issue since settled we're told and ripped up and thrown out but not good enough for protesters. this fellow just returned from hong kong, neatly laid it out years ago about the coming collapse of china wrote a book to that degree, gordon chang. you were in hong kong what did you see when you were there? >> what we saw were faces of very defiant, very determined protesters, showing a lot of humanity. this was the night after the hong kong chief executive said she would formerly withdraw the extradition bill which is what triggered these in the first place but is her concession, it did not actually take, it did not get the protesters to back down at all. these people have got a lot of demands. neil: what are they demanding now? it started with the extradition and they succeeded and got that but what are they demanding now? >> they have five demands now.

first of all universal sufferage , but also they want the removal of the designation of riot from their protest and the release of protesters and perhaps most important, they want an independent inquiry into the police tactics, because everyone knows that there's been excessive force, and its been the excessive force of the police that have actually gotten a lot of people in hong kong who aren't protesters on the side of the kids because this is just been awful. so the police have used tear gas , not been disciplined, all the rest of it and so you've got a lot of people in hong kong, who are just out on the streets because of the police tactics. neil: didn't you visit one of the protests leading movement leaders because hours before it was bombed? >> yeah, we had dinner there and after we left about three hours 15 minutes, two individuals wearing masks baseball hats, on motorcycles threw petro bombs at his front

gate. now jimmy gets a lot of harass he's not upset about this. he's just grumpy because the police interview him and he knows the police aren't going to do anything. and his house was firebombed. neil: where do you think this ends? >> i think that this ends with a lot of trouble for china. when we were at that protest at the police station monday night, someone came up to us. he said he was from china. he was down there to support the protesters, and he was just so upset it was occurring. for beijing this is their worst nightmare because this kid goes back into the mainland and tells people what they saw and he will say that the hong kong authorities backed down and that means people with their own grievances in china are going to do whatever they want. people in the mainland don't sympathize with hong kong people by and large but they've got their own problems and if they think they can get something by taking to the streets, they will do that. we know that they do that.

neil: the fear of the chinese government. gordon thank you very much so far so good in hong kong for the time being, but as gordon said it can erupt at any second any minute, any time. more after this. to go where thee and experience adventure in unexpected places... ♪ who were inspired by different cultures ♪ and found that the past can create new memories... ... expedia has everything you need, all in one place.

>> all right. all the problems at hong kong notwithstanding, the president is saying that china needs a new trade deal certainly more than we do, but with our job numbers slipping from their blistering pace last year at this time, have things flipped around? mark, what are you hearing? >> good morning to you. the president doesn't have anything on his public schedule this weekend, but we do know that the economy, as well as trade talks with china are on his mind because he's been tweeting about it. a there was a tweet late last night, china just enacted a major stimulus plan with the tariffs they're paying to the usa, billions and billions of dollars, they need it. in the meantime, our federal

reserve sits back and doing nothing, nothing in caps. and he continues to criticize powell, calling on powell to lower interest rates. powell for his part was speaking in switzerland. he says the united states remains strong, but the constant back and forth with china and the u.s. does appear to be impacting the global economy. >> i think it's the case uncertainty around trade policy is causing some companies to hold back now on investment and so, our obligation is to use our tools to support the economy and that's what we'll continue to do. >> now, a lot of people are trying to figure out exactly what the latest jobs report means for the economy overall. neil, you were showing the numbers. and this is the jobs report. 130,000 jobs created in august, but they were expecting, economists, 158,000, however, the unemployment rate you can see on your screen staying steady right now at 3.7%. we've seen some data that shows wages are on the rise. 3% year over year, something the

white house will be talking a lot about in the weeks ahead. >> all right, thank you very much. mark at the white house, obviously there. who needs this deal more? the president says the chinese do. the chinese seem to be intimating, maybe the united states does. they've been seeing some improving economic numbers, we've seen numbers that are softening a little bit and in the middle of all of that, we saw jerome powell, the federal reserve chairman with his counterpart from switzerland who heads the swiss national bank saying the globe is slowing down and the trade head twinds are a issue. and let's have ethan herzog, and best selling author charles payne and certainly not last but not least susan. one of the discussions from hong kong, they've got crisis galore, but when it comes to the economy, maybe not as much of a crisis? >> i was talk to go a lot of my former economic contacts and ceo's in the asia-pacific.

are you concerned about a crash or a slowdown in the chinese economy? actually a billionaire told me no. you know why? because china didn't unleash a 50 billion stimulus package like they did in 2008. we haven't seen a federal rate cut so far. and the interest rates drop, allow the banks to have less cash and around the economy, hopefully creates more economic activity. neil: 120, 130 billion dollars for businesses and the idea is to boost. >> yeah. neil: and that's paled compared to what they've done. >> paled compared to what they did in 2008. if you want to take a look at real panic, look back then. right now they have a lot of levers to pull and they don't have four-year elections, a leader for life and there's a nationalist fervor taking place. neil: yeah, but mussolini was a leader. >> when they see what's touted

as a u.s. bully right now. people are willing to endure the pain back the chinese president. neil: and speaking of bully, have you seen what's happening in hong kong? >> if they see. neil: charles payne, what's going on. >> right now it's minimal, even the fed says it's minimal impact. this week-- >> it has affected hiring plans a little bit? >> maybe. maybe investment plans more than hiring plans. i really-- listen, we've just-- you know, that's the job support yesterday, for instance, was magnifice magnificent, americans came back to the labor force. unemployment for black women 4.4% down from 5.2% in one single month. i can't tell you how amazing that is. when president obama came into office and time he lift.

1.5 million americans left the labor force and two and a half years, almost 2 million have come back and these are the underpinnings of our economy. china is weaker than they're saying, and i think one of the reasons they're not doing 2008 things, i'm not sure they can. they've got serious debt issues and lost 5 million jobs-- >> they actually own their own debt and not like they owe it to the rest of the world. something they can control. >> guess what? the world wants our debt. and it's amazing to have our debt. the world doesn't want china's debt. >> because it pays. however, when you look at the u-6 number, another indication of unemployment, those were almost 3.5% higher than what was reported. >> and the whole kit and caboodle. >> exactly, people who want jobs who haven't look at four jobs, your cousin vinny-- >> compared to what?

2008, you're down to single digits and coming off-- >> we're talking about the consumer here, susan. and this is sort of a precursor to how the consumer is going to feel in the next couple of months. the consumer is strong. look at restaurant sales, they're strong now and i've been saying a record number. >> however, you have to take into consideration the people still looking for jobs. how long-- >> the ones who have them the wages are going up at a nice clip. >> wages came in strong. >> i would like to see cousin vinny get a stable job in the next-- >> the only problem cousin vinny might have to sharpen up his skills a little bit. neil: when the president talks about this and then you hear jerome powell saying we'll take appropriate action. what he seems to be saying, we'll backstop this, right? >> i was really rooting for powell this year. i thought there was a change. i thought he had an epiphany. january 4th he made the announcement that employment inflation is not price inflation. we are no longer taking

aggressive action because unemployment rates are low and people are making money. sigh of relief. i have not heard a fed official say that ever about you he continues to do these things. three cases he's said things that crushed the market, at least two rate hikes too many last year. so we wanted to hear him yesterday say he's going to continue to take action to sustain the recovery. he gives the fed because of the credit, on his watch he does not want a recession and i'm hoping that he will continue to look at it this way and forget about all the political stuff. >> he says there's no recession. i think that's encouraging for the markets and i feel like the media. we keep bringing up this r-word. where are the recessionary signs? we're look ago at great jobs report. unemployment near a 50-year low. i hope we don't talk ourselves into a recession. >> i think that's exactly what's happening. >> and with the 10-year yield. 1 1/2%. >> recession is inevitable. this is the cyclical pattern of

an economy and people are-- when i look at the consumer because that's what i cover and i think about the vibe that they're feeling, people are concerned about it. i don't think that it's-- >> and to susan's point in the numbers yet. >> it's not showing up in the numbers. but again, i don't think it's of a trade war, i don't think it's reaction of a political siding either way, but a recession is coming, people are getting concerned. neil: and slowing near election day, and in the middle of this, it hasn't been resolved, blah, blah, blah? >> i don't see recession, economy is cyclical, but yesterday the fed put out a piece saying that the economy could slow down and will slow down because of anxiety and they pointed to media research as part of that. >> i think if you have jerome powell in the federal reserve continuing to cut interest rates and by the way what europe is doing, easing and adding more stimulus as well. jp morgan says it's time to buy stocks.

neil: and i don't know about the economists, charles is reading their opinions. [laughter] >> i read them, but i don't always-- >> and the chief deputy whip, michigan congressman dan kildee, nice it would have you. >> thank you for having me back on. neil: if my market sooth sayers are right, no problems until election day, and possibility of no trade deals by election day, how do you sort it out and the impact on the rates? >> well, you know, i do think we've had sustained growth and started soon after president obama took office and it's clearly continued into this term of president trump, but there are some signs that we need to address, the fact that we continue to let our infrastructure deteriorate is a problem for us long-term. the fact that we have so much uncertainty around trade is a problem for us long-term. so, i think in the moment we have an economy that while it's growing, it's not working for

everybody, but the fundamentals, we can't ignore them. you know, i heard some of your guests talk about trade. i think the president was right to take on china. i don't agree with him on everything. i think he was absolutely right to take on china. i wish he'd done it in a different way and i think he would have been more successful had he done it in a multilateral fashion. we have to deal with these fundamentals and china is one of the fundamental challenges we have to take on. if there's short-term pain that comes with that it's a reality, but we have to do it. neil: many of your colleagues in the house are urging moving full steam with impeachment proceedings. how do you feel about that? >> well, i actually think the judiciary committee would do everyone a favor if they did provide some order and some structure to these investigations that partly revolve around the potential of impeachment and partly just deal

with general oversight that congress has. there's going to be a real serious discussion as you can tell. we've been off for a few weeks from session, doing our work back home. when we get back next week, there's going to be some real heart to heart conversations that take place. but i believe, and many people might not agree with me, that it would provide some order for the judiciary committee to step up and essentially allow the rest of the congress, other committees to focus on these big policy questions that we face and provide some order and structure to these questions about presidential oversight and some of the problems that we see with the president's behavior. neil: well, that could spread beyond just one issue though to a host of impeachment issues handled by a host of committees. it would be a mess, wouldn't it? >> i think it's much more difficult when you have six different committees all essentially trying to provide answers to some of the same questions. i think the judiciary committee or a select committee if the speaker were to go that way, that could coordinate and

organize this and not be stuck? what we normally see in these oversight hearings where members go back and forth five minute periods to make a statement and ask their questions. it doesn't get to the heart of the questions we have. i think a much more orderly process would potential will i take some of the emotion out of the question and allow us to get to the facts and make the decisions after we get the information we need. neil: in the meantime, the democratic candidates who want to be president, holed together in new hampshire, state conventions and going on and the one under considerable duress is joe biden, ostensibly the leader. in the new hampshire poll only a couple of points more than bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. his gaffes have not helped him. do you think he's in trouble and do you think his gaffes are a reminder how old he is, and maybe he's lost his fastball?

>> no, i don't think so. what happens, when you're in the lead, the magnifying glass comes on you and whether it's the other candidates who take their shots and try to take advantage of what normally would be not a really news worthy story and making it news worthy, i think what we have in joe biden is a very experienced hand who brings a long record, that record is going to be subject to a lot of scrutiny. that's one of the advantages of that long record of experience, but it's also a disadvantage that he obviously is having to deal with, but, no, i think this process is going to produce the strongest candidate. that person may be joe biden and i hope the other candidates understand what the american people don't want, is not a food fight, that they want a composition of ideas. neil: keep wishing. congressman, good seeing you. be well.

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up the coast, first responders are shuttling supplies to ocracoke island, with no bridges to the hurricane. a seven foot storm surge caused significant flooding. >> we estimate about 800 people remained on the island during the storm, and have reports from residents who say the flooding there was catastrophic. the coast guard has already airlifted from the island a 79-year-old man who needed immediate medical attention. >> the coast guard evacuated two other ocracoke residents who are experiencing medical emergencies and transporting additional three who simply want today leave the island. back to you. neil: jonathan, thank you, very very much. in the meantime, at least 20-- or 43 people are confirmed in the bahamas. they're worried that the number could climb substantially as they reach rural areas, hard to reach by vehicle let alone on

foot. u.s. groups are doing all they can to rush in and aid. one is americares. how are things looking? >> we're seeing a different situation here. we have relief teams in abaco island today. we have firsthand information on what the health needs actually are. we've started sending shipments to address the immediate health needs and we're looking today to assess the health facilities. we know three at least of the 19 health facilities are up and running, but it's still unclear what the status of the others are at this time. neil: you know, you had a chance to sort of surmise that the shape these folks are in and what can you tell us? >> we know that we're just in the early days here and while there's need health needs, we know that there are basic supplies that are needed. hygiene items, basic things like

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>> anything that keeps iran from getting a nuclear weapon is in our best interest. that's-- >> so was that deal, as it was originally constructed in our best interest? >> the deal was working. it was not a deal i was especially fond of when it was signed. i thought the sundown provisions were too soon. >> all right, that is earlier this week. former secretary out with a book he claims at least right now, say what you will of that ripped up deal, at least it was a framework to stick iran to and

now indications that since this president walked away from it and others have been indicating the same, probably not a big surprise that iran is doing the same. we're getting indications now that iran is injecting uranium gas into advanced cartridges. i'm note engineering or expert on that, but apparently is signals it's not buying the limits of the research and development, a key tenet of that accord. and the former u.s.s. cole commander. you could argue that the president was right to be suspicious of the iranians and now they're cheating, it's very clear the french are willing to pay $15 billion to get them back to it. that doesn't look likely. >> i think at this point we have to watch what the iranians are doing. actions speak stronger than words and once again, we're seeing where the iranians want to engage in international

nuclear blackmail. give us what we need so we can maintain our stretch of terrorism throughout the middle east and throughout the world or we're going to build toward a nuclear weapon and have a nuclear weapons program. neil: it's the third time they've moved with an action or series of actions to veer from that deal. obviously, it doesn't behoove those who want to get back to the deal to get back to the deal, right? >> there's really no need. everything iran is engaging in at this point indicates that they want to pursue what the mullahs have pursued from the beginning and that is to obtain a nuclear weapon. when you look at the fact that right now they have violated the jcpoa or nuclear agreement by increasing beyond the 300 kilograms even more and increased the stock pile. two their enrichment limits to 4.2% and what you really need to watch is that one. that will reach a technical threshold, if they get up to 20%

which is what they're gaining the capability to do with better reactors, better secentrifuges spin it faster. you're going to quickly watch them go to a weapons grade at 90% and that's a breakout period that people are talking about how long it takes to get to that point and now the third one is they're continuing with the nuclear research and development into weapons grade type of uranium. so clearly they're interested in a weapons program. when they say it's for peaceful purposes, it's a bald-face lie and i think even the europeans are realizing that at this point. neil: they're still seizing ships. one vessel with a dozen or more filipino sailors on board. so they're hardly humbled or chasened by all of these developments and the foreign criticism, not only this country, but a host of others. what do you think is really going on? >> when you look at sanctions, they've been aimed at the nuclear agreement. when you look at what they're doing around that entire region,

how they've been held to account? they really haven't. we've applied sanctions and the big key one was declaring the irgc iranian republic guard force as a terrorist organization, which it was, but even now, when you look at the fact that they're seizing ships. they're still holding the british ship, even though that one-- one was released and is now off syria in violation of the agreement, it may start pumping that oil ashore. that would provide approximately $130 million infusion of cash into the iranians to be able to continue their reign of terror. there are a number of things they're doing, but we're still not willing to hold them accountable, but more importantly, the europeans are just holding out this false hope. we can only hope at some point they're going to realize that iran is continuing to be an international destabilizing force that supports terrorism across the globe. neil: i'm wondering, if i could switch gears to relate what you

just said. i had jim mattis, there was a book out as you heard and one of the key themes, we have to be aware of the dangers in this world, one of the reasons he resigned as defense secretary because he was concerned with the president pulling troops out of syria at the time we were giving up the fight or looked to the world like we might be and he want today make sure that the president had someone in there who would support what his vision was for the region and beyond. it was the same reason why he butted heads with president barack obama who essentially fired him as centcom commander because he was concerned that the president was withdrawing forces or getting out of iraq and it would come back to bite us. what do you make of that view? because the president, this president has since kept some, promised to keep some troops in syria. he's said, that is president trump, there's a limit to being a police force or an entity that can be target practice for bad guys, but we can't extract

ourselves from there. >> i think what you're looking at, neil, unfortunately, you have a series of presidents, president bush after the 9/11 attacks said we've got this, keep the economy going and stay calm. president obama did not be realistic in what he was telling the american people and the iranians killed over 600 americans between iraq and afghanistan, and they kept that information classified. and even president trump today when you look at the dangers that are going on in negotiating an agreement with the taliban. when you look at the root problem in that area, it's pakistan. pakistan is the root. these are pakistani designed centrifuges that the iranians are using. the pakistanis have nuclear weapons and they're continuing to support the taliban in terrorism that are killing americans and killing afghanistans. the american people have not been told the truth by successive administrations of the dangers we are facing, the dangers that china presents with

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questions that we face and provide some order and structure to these questions about presidential oversight and some of the problems that we see with the president's behavior. neil: that was dan kildee, a key leader in the house of representatives saying if you think you've got enough to target the president for impeachment, then go, go with that and let's simultaneously try to go about and do our business. that might prove easier said than done, but i think i got the gist of that right. where does this all go right now? because there is a battle in the base of the democratic party to get the president thrown out of office and not necessarily wait around until the election to force him out of office. and here is the city council, and policy nathan ruben and kat. nathan, you know a lot about the democratic party, saying among the so-called base, but that's kildee closer to saying i see

what you're saying, pursue it there. >> since robert mueller, we've around 120 democrats give or take, there's a movement in the base, an appetite at the base and starting to see that trickle into the levels of congress. i think a formal impeachment inquiry will allow democrats get oversight and access to information that's been previously stonewalled. neil: do you share his concern of the other committees that trips up their-- >> i don't think it trips them up. it frees them up to focus on health care, gun control, foreign policy, the other committees that are trying to do serious work and allow the judiciary committee to focus on what's important to them which is holding the trump administration accountable. neil: politically that's just what republicans want then? >> you is a you dan kildee have the swing state impeachment.

and one hand, yeah, we can get people on record, but telegraphing that we as a party have to talk about issues that are important to voters. when people go back to their districts, and it's know the universally popular in democrat areas as much as the coastal would have you think. neil: it could go nowhere tht senate presumably, but there's a lot of passion for it. >> i don't understand getting passionate about things that are never going to work out. it doesn't work in love and it doesn't work in politics. just as you mentioned, it would never get through the senate. why spend so much time and so much emotional energy trying to do this when it's not going to happen, and it's going to make trump's base even more fervently support him, even though you don't see it as possible, it is. they see it as people constantly

after trump and-- >> ka it. is right. were some willing willing to see how the russian investigation go. trump talks about a witch hunt, and pulling out a book and dusting it off and saying this is what we'll have a hearing on. they can identify what this they're doing and dan kildee identified what they're not doing. >> hold on a second. you're talking about picking out a cop spkocop conspiracy theor there are things donald trump is doing that could be impeachment. he's funneling money every time he goes golfing there.

and crime that sent his personal attorney to prison. and there are real issues that he have-- >> that's completely missing my point. that's missing my i'm going to correct me because it's missing my point. i said it's never going to happen. >> the american public would have faith in people had the democratic party not flown so hard to him on russian collusion. we'll see the pendulum swing back hard and fast, the moderate voter is saying enough is enough, let this guy do the job. neil: and there are reasons to do this or not, wouldn't republicans welcome democrats going on a rampage like that. right now they're leading in the polls against the president and focusing ironically enough on the economy which otherwise appears good and they're doing okay with that. >> going back to kildee the first question you asked him about was the economy and he struggled to make that case. i think the impeachment argument

is one that's going to cause a lot of democrats and town halls problems. we can bask in the problems it's going to bring, but not fair to donald trump-- >> and joe biden, despite his long service, the old man moments-- getting closer to that age, and that he has problems. >> and you asked the question, does joe biden lose his fastball? i'm not sure he's had a fastball. 's run for president and not done well. i think this is a testament to the nostalgia that follows him around for the barack obama days. neil: if you ask who you like, if that helps. i don't know that elizabeth

warren has that, or bernie sanders-- >> i think that some of the gaffes makes him more likeable. kind of funny if he doesn't know what state he's in, but then it's funny or not, i kind of do want a president who does know what state he's in. neil: and president trump has had some doozies. >> of course he has. of course, you'll never hear me arguing against that. neil: where is this going? if the economy is the centerpiece of this and again polls are polls and remind to be careful, but you would think in a strong economy that the president would be running away with this, but he's not. >> the president is going to make a very effective case. we see the trend lines in the economy and we see the jobs number. people are making hay over the job numbers not leading up to expectations. the reality we have more jobs than ever before. unemployment as low as it's been. neil: you made my case, then he he should be running away. >> i wish he was doing better in the polls, but at the end of the day what are democrats offering to voters as the alternative. they can't come up with the economic measures.

they have to find a small submarine group here. the farmers in wisconsin that wear red shirts aren't-- >> and care about the farmers in wisconsin, you're going to get a lot of angry-- . the fact that donald trump is not winning in a landslide in an economy like we have, that's a testament to how much voters are turned off by his style. neil: if barack obama was running for reelection and the economy vastly improved from that time from the present levels we're at. he was in the fight of his life. >> time will tell. neil: i like that. guys, thank you for coming in on a saturday no less. beautiful weather. >> so fun. neil: we were competing with that. you don't mean it. >> i had the best morning ever. neil: you haven't complained about the cold in the studio. >> no. neil: we have a lot more coming up, including facebook and google in the cross-hairs of attorneys general from both

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>> all right. it's one thing if the federal government is eyeing you, but a coalition of attorneys general, facebook, a separate probe into google. something is going on here. good to have you. >> thank you. neil: where is this going and what are these guys saying about these companies? they are shooting for the moon right now and really, the state attorneys general want their piece of the pie. so far the department of justice and the ftc, sec, all of these are going after big tech, google, amazon. neil: they're saying they're too big for their britches? >> yeah, too big for their britches, and the state attorneys general want their piece of the pie now.

neil: what's weird about this, it's rallying republicans and democrats, more democrats to be fair, but it's a bipartisan bashing going on? >> yeah, it's so important to have this joint effort across the aisle because it's really hopefully going to benefit consumers. whatever kind of money we see out of this, hopefully it will change the strategic positioning of google and facebook, so that-- >> are you worried we're going after all american success stories? i'm not an apologist, but be careful what you look for. >> and wouldn't like the situation. but the eu, for example, they've already fined almost $10 billion against google for anti-trust practices for all different things and right now, even though these are american success stories they're not allowing for other american success stories to happen because if you think about did-- >> microsoft the same argument and netscape. whoever is the dominant force of the moment isn't always the dominant force. >> right now google and facebook

have been dominant in social media and internet searching for a really long time. if you think about it, there's no real competitor to facebook even though they continually say we have competitors. they buy up their competitors. instagram was a competitor and they bought it and-- >> i'm always worried when the government says to do their bidding. >> it's protection of private data-- >> some are policing their content. blah, blah blah. >> that's what republicans are worried about. the really the problem is we can't see the inner workings and what they're doing to protect our data or using our data or selling our data. whatever happens, maybe the trial is the punishment itself. we don't know. hopefully it will lead to something better than we have now. neil: we shall see. lisa a cyber security date an

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>> all right. going right now to the streets of jolly old london. not so jolly when it comes to brexit. these are brexit supporters who don't like the way these things are melting before their eyes. nigel farage is one of the earliest endorsers of exiting because they said they would and could and survive. nigel is on the phone. where is it going? >> dead simple we voted three and a half years ago to leave the european union for brexit. we were promised by the

conservative and labor parties at the last general election they would deliver it. and now, here we are just 55 days away from the date which we would leave and what is happening, our politicians, parliament, our professional globalist political class are using every trick in the book to stop it having and they've passed a piece of legislation this week forbidding for boris johnson taking us out without signing a new treaty. we're very deep in crisis and i can tell you, millions of people are angrier than i've ever seen them before. neil: what happens, nigel? he failed at trying to get this no deal thing done. he failed at calling, so far, for snap elections. a lot of people say his days are limited. is it that bad? >> well, he's in trouble, yes. he's had a very tough week, including, unbelievably, the resignation of his own brother.

and that must hurt. i mean, you know, you think of all the things that happen in politics, you know, family, my goodness me that must have hurt boris and he looked visibly wounded i thought the other day. neil: yeah, but my brother and i would fight all the time. we love each other. so he's just going to have to deal with it. i'm kidding, kidding. nigel, i guess what i'm asking is the other possibility is to put it before the british people again and i'm wondering how that would be? >> well, there is now a big push to make us vote again, this movement is led by tony blair, supported by of course his friends in the democrats in america, and rather like with trump, there are many that won't accept the results. they would like us to vote again because they hope to get a different answer. all i can tell you if they do make us vote again, they will get the same result and what we need now is another general

election to sweep away the politicians destroying the united kingdom. neil: you will get another election, obviously, boris johnson wants that to happen and if he doesn't get it all bets are off. >> they might have an election in the short-term, i will bet you every money you like there will be a general election before christmas this year. it's coming. they can't deny it forever and that's when the people will really get their chance to speak. neil: they'll get it before christmas election, but you'll still be part of europe at that time, right? >> i'm sad to say as the leader of this movement for a quarter of a century, that's where we are, but i haven't given up and we won't give up and in the end we'll get there. we'll be free. neil: you were ahead of this curve before anyone was, nigel. we'll see the people laughing at you then and i don't think they are laughing now, and dismissing

too soon. in london the protests continue. the hope is that they can cobble something together to make sure they get elections and keep putting the pressure on the europeans to get out of the club. good luck on that. fax continues. fox continues.

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