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for today, have a great week, we will see you next fox news sunday. >> buzzfeed of this sunday, president trump says primeory opponent in his campaign is, the quote, fake news media and suggest that two washington post reporters who wrote should be barred. during devastation of hurricane dorian ripped the president for playing golf. >> watch hurricane tear through the atlantic and watch the president lose his mind. >> second time he went golfing over labor day weekend and that has drawn criticism. >> east coast prepares to be hammered by hurricane dorian democrats are are racing to
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score political points. howie: huge media storm of trump's map to include alabama possibly after saying state might be impact. >> someone doctored this, folks, the white house is saying it's not the president. >> the absurdity of he can't even yeah. >> this president gets the worst coverage than any president, reveal him to be stupid or uninformed, liar, howie: scandal or sit trump that keeps relitigating on minor misstep,
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joe biden opposes only to be contradicted, is the press taken these mistakes serious enough, seeking fun raisers, should the president be calling for the actress to be fired. i'm howard kurtz and this is media buzz. ♪ ♪ howie: if there was one moment that seemed to capture against the backdrop of damaging hurricane, the tornado of the hostility the tornado and the prez, he unveiled earlier map of projected possible map of dorian, after trump included alabama contradicting the the national weather service, include a sliver of alabama.
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>> i don't know, i don't know. i don't know. >> here is the president tweeting on another map this was the originally projected path of hurricane in early stages, he says as you can see all models predicted, hitting georgia and alabama, i accept the fake news apologies. joining us to analyze mollie hemingway, justice on trial the kavanaugh confirmation and the future of the supreme court. crystal anderson, columnist for the washington examiner cofounder and clarence page columnist for the chicago tribune. molly, what do you make of torrential amount of media coverage to the president, the map, the sharpy, during this devastating hurricane? >> it was unbelievable to watch this week, so much coverage devoted to sharpy gates, they say the president can't let things go, that's absolutely
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true but in the media in no position given how they handle this, earlier predictions and nobody is denying that and seeing later than it should have been. minor point that even if you put the worst conception on it it does not deserve 7 days of coverage, hundreds of stories, front-page news. >> you think? i have to agree that both sides have not been able to let this go. i've gotten hammered by both sides, you have to hold the president accountable for lying, you all are on assessing on the stupid on map that i could care about, it's been torrential, impact public opinion? >> absolutely not. very little. i can't think of a single voter voted one way and because of the single sharpy story will vote another one.
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media that is willing to go after in a way that they're not willing to do but reminds them of the personality and the approach that the president takes that they don't like, the kind of story that confirms what they believe about the president and you probably tuned it out. >> so many trump controversies, the president did tweet about this 6 straight day with 5 or 6 day-old maps, i had updated like 12 times before it aired. on friday the president tweeted nonsense never happened to another president, 4 days of corrupt reporting, no apology. howie: didn't the president keep story alive of what was worse minor misstep. >> you're absolutely right. nobody mentioned that this story, the president led to a dispute between the national weather service and noa, the
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agency that is in charge. >> i have the details. >> this story was not a 7-day story, it became one because new developments kept coming back to it with another example that really wasn't, didn't show the weather conditions at the time, anyway, it was something that the president couldn't let go of and what are we supposed to do as reporters, my wife says what do you cover trump so much, he's president. howie: sorry, clarence, it's not a 7-day story but 7-hour story. let me put cnn headline, take a look at it. as people die trump defends using doctored map. are we losing all sense of proportion? >> think about that, as people
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die trump is doing this and as people die cnn and media outlets are focusing on what exactly? you almost get the feeling that the media decided tat beginning of the meet make trump handling of the hurricane major story and turned out that it didn't make landfall and all they were left with the map and they went with that anyway. at that point, a, you shouldn't have just oppositional stance as your approach but you need to have better news judgment than they showed. >> late in the week the president had noa, oceanic administration, he was briefed of the possibility of alabama being affected and contradicted whether service scientists some reported in washington post today they thought it was political, post story says that one top noa official says back on september 1st, don't contradict president trump on this, and the post reporting saying it was trump that used the black sharpy to mark up noa
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map. this kind of thing where you pay attention to keep all the details straight. >> yeah, i think average voter that you're looking at what's the difference between noa and the national weather service, the timeline is more confusing this of, trump reporting for briefing where he was given accurate information and came out dated and so many moving pieces to this and i want to know data from scientific entities and i don't want politics influencing how the weather is reporting, the story is con as a -- convoluted by whd unlikely to change how many people view weather services or the president himself. >> it's also true that we've had history of politicization of noa and weather services, this was a
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huge story during the obama administration, leading up to paris climate accord where false information put for the world and later revealed that it was false, these are things that we didn't see the kind of coverage with the obama administration than we do now, the way they are reporting the supposed scoops -- >> comparable to a hurricane? >> putting out false information to pass -- to pass paris climate accord. it wasn't sa they were saying don't tweet against the president, incorrect information that was put out, alabama does routinely get affected by storms that hit florida and incorrect information. washington post story didn't say that trump was the person who had operated the sharpy, it had one anonymous, of course, who else would have done it, it's actually different. howie: white house official does say it was trump, the president does use sharpies a lot.
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doesn't make it truth, white house hasn't explicitly denied. i want to play the president's tweet because he likes to tweet video, cat video that you can go online and see but this one a little more serious, trump clapping back at cnn with this edited clip, take a look. >> even into the gulf of mexico, louisiana, alabama, alabama, alabama, alabama, mississippi, you need to be on the lookout. howie: we cut it off too soon, august 28th when the projections were less clear. video while clarence is talking. my question to you is this going too far or is this entertainment at this point? >> you're talking about the president going too far? >> the cnn global --
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>> there we go. howie: had to show to america. >> the president has blurred line between that and serious politic, but the situation is one in which the spaghetti model the president followed early on they call it showed multiple tracks, including touching alabama and delighted the hurricane didn't get that far. thank you, that's the seriousness. we are talking about hurricane, a lot of people lost their lives. >> you're talking in the bahamas. >> trump shouldn't have played two rounds of golf over labor day weekend when dorian was hitting the bahamas and heading to u.s., opposition party that says the president shouldn't play golf during crisis. >> when president trump started calling the media opposition party or using harsh language,
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fake news is the enemy of the people, this is ridiculous, we have seen media outlets and there's no question that they're the primary people opposing him and leading the effort, everybody sees it, that's bad for the media because they need to have credible voice. >> one legitimate point that journalists an commentators made is donald trump the private citizen repeatedly slammed obama for playing too much gulf, it is legitimate to point that out but partisan divide, golf is bad when you oppose the president who is in office. >> and vacation time, obama was hit of vacation time and turns out not -- howie: presidents are always working doesn't matter where they are. >> that's right, i will come back to that question, how would we react if obama had behaved like this at a time a hurricane was hitting us, he would be
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slammed too. >> there was something, kristin about donald trump and hurricanes in the way covering taking the puerto rico devastation and throwing paper towels do the crowd, the media seemed intent i would say in portraying the president lacking empathy, screwing things up. the truth he's not a politician, whenever he's a hurricane he seems to get hammered. >> the golf story, peoplic want the media to be adversary, they want to hold our leaders accountable and want to make sure that leaders feel pressured in order to live up to what is expected of them but the opposition political parties tend to sort of overblow it, you have gone on vacation too much, you played golf too much, average sort of voter is the media treating this president the same as the last president, if you have somebody who doesn't really tune into things, doesn't really watch this moment by moment, it does seem as though president trump gets flag from the media not just from opposition party over the sort
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>> joe biden was one of 10 democratic candidates during 7 hour scene and form on climate change but got the most attention both because eyes turned red and this exchange with audience member. >> how can we trust you to hold corporations and executives accountable for their crimes against humanity when we know that normal -- tomorrow you are
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holding fundraiser hosted by andrew goldman fossil fuel executive. howie: mangled the facts while appeared with steven colbert. >> you said bobby kennedy and mlk were assassinated in late 70's a sured us i'm not going nuts. [laughter] >> follow-up question, are you going nuts? >> look, the reason i game on the jimmy kimmel show is because i'm not. [laughter] [laughter] [applause] >> hey, look -- howie: that got a good laugh, kristin, why is there so much critical media attention on joe biden besides the fact that he's the front runner, fundraiser host was not executive but the founder of the fossil fuel company, joking with somebody like colbert. >> colbert response was probably
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the right one but i don't know that ultimately after enough of these kinds of things begin to accumulate will biden be able to withstand in the long haul, the number one thing democratic voters care about is choosing someone that they believe can defeat donald trump's next november. joe biden is saying things that are indelicate, misremembering details, part of the good-ole joe sort of brand for a long time, that's priced in people's assumptions about biden, anything about his health, perhaps too old to take on trump. howie: which is something that they raise a lot. >> more about electability. >> i have a sound bite for you, molly, podcast on the iraq war, play it. >> immediately the home started i came out against the war, now
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the judgment of trusting the president to keep his word on something like that, that was a mistake and i apologize for that. howie: now as npr's pointed out as part of interview package, biden for months after voting to authorize the war defended or at least said he would vote the same way, until 2005 a couple of years later biden turned against the war, so my question is, i don't think this is a gaffe, i think this is misstatement of record and the media treating it that way? >> if donald trump remembers details and when joe biden continues his decade practice of saying things that aren't so, serious problems, bothers so many people, this is something that has been and will probably
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will continue. >> clarence, npr did their job that was the story of more -- less significant mixing of vermont, new hampshire or mixing up margaret thatcher and theresa may. >> in the context of it all this was part of debate going on at the time, you may remember, howard, between joe biden and president bush and later biden said that he had agreed to -- not actually go to war he just wanted permission to be able to go to war if necessary. after we did go to war, biden said he was against that and against it before and afterwards. now speaking with hyperbole, if hyperbole is going to knock you out of the race it would have been 4 years with donald trump because he was hyperbole king and still is, i don't think this is a deal-killer for biden.
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howie: right, iraq war was huge issue when hillary clinton ran for president. one for you, kristin, this is about the washington post revealing that had conflated different stories and asked about that on npr. >> the details are irrelevant in terms of decision-making and so the fact that i would forget that it was rodríguez who was -- i believe this is the case, pinning a star on young man was, it's it's irrelevant to the point. howie: a lot of details that he got wrong, is the rest of the press largely giving him a pass, the washington post reported on this. >> this is a story that is being discontinued. nothing that has come up in the last 24 hours, it's been covered a bit, in the last couple of years brian williams at nbc, hillary clinton, her story about
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facing -- you can't do this anymore, you can't come out and say that something happened in terms of combat and whether it's your own actions or you're sort of trying to stand in the bravery of someone else that you were pinning a star, you owe it to that soldier to get the story right. >> i just do think you can mess up details and it's something that happens commonly with politicians. howie: and journalists. >> it is understandable it's just a different ways that are treated, genuinely frustrates people who watch media coverage. >> people won't remember what you said but they will remember how you made them feel and joe biden, donald trump, et cetera, people care about that more than the little details of the story but the general messaging, that's the argument biden is making. howie: when you say details don't matter it's close to say that facts don't matter and many journalists are saying donald
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trump is not has always played straight with the truth. thanks so much for coming by this sunday, ahead donald trump say it is media not just fake but corrupt, we will look at that story and the story that trigger the attack but up next why administration official was pushed out of bloomberg story and turns on boris johnson with the
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>> i spent the other day working on a special report story of administration official who was forced out of his job following a bloomberg inquiry and it was striking how many journalists on the left and the right called the piece unfair, bloomberg reporter ben tweeted this scoop, posted on facebook that jewish media protect their own, accepted resignation 4 hours after penn called for comment,
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also story seized on sarcastic joke he posted 3 years ago, i never thought i'd see the day when making fun of alt-right semites, also has history of advancing controversial conservative and faith-base causes in court which has nothing to do with the facebook post. also facebook exchange with obviously sarcastic language with corporate tool paul ryan when a commentator said ryan was jew, you know they protect their own even the liberals like fox who have the charge of bigotry unfair and misleading, bloomberg stands by reporting and did take anti-semitism and we told department we were doing the story and that he was rehired and boss said they made a mistake, bloody big story when prime minister tries to fail
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parliament, own brothers expels other members including winston churchill's plan and fails in attempting to call new election and the london prez is savaging boris johnson, some headlines about bojo, boris loses control, humiliation for johnson, now the mp's take control, pm cornered. is this the most dangerous chicken in britain? britain's worst pm since the last one and the columnist brutal, boris johnson is a hostage in number 10. johnson knows only tribal machismo. boris building case against own leadership, the telegraph fail to go deliver brexit will inflict national humiliation,
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in the white house because reporting is disgusting and fake, joining us from flashing, radio talk show host and former cia analyst and in washington national political reporter for npr, buck, the post story said that trump, some trump allies and advisers say it's a lost summer of self-inflicted controversies, is that presidential suggestion, not a threat but a suggestion that perhaps they should be barred from the white house grounds? >> well, look, the president doesn't like the way he's treated by the media and nothing new, you will see numerous pieces by the post and other major outlets that are quite similar to this one, probably next summer, labor day around this time. howie: probably next week. >> knows he won't be treated fairly by the press and he's been saying that all along and he likes to punch back hard, his suggestion that the primary opponent that he faces is really the media and not the democratic party is largely true because by undermining what we all know is
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a very antitrump press overwhelmingly it'll make it harder for them to have narratives that damage him when people are thinking about who they are going to vote for, i think he's laying the battlefield right now and trying to prepare for what's coming. howie: federal judge this week overturned the white house suspending pass of cnn contributor saying the rules were too unclear, by the way the off the record reference is that he leaked information from off the record dinner from the president's assistant marilyn which ended up losing her job. let me read to you reaction from editor, he says both ashley and tucker superb journalists, attack to denigrate the press. >> not the first one, the fight with the press is what matters for trump, he wants to be fighting, whether he's going make good on any of this he hasn't been able to, jim acosta
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is still covering the white house. brian karim sounds like he will have pass reinstated, he's not going to vanish, i don't think, the two washington post reporters from the white house grounds, it's kind of like saying i hereby american companies to stop doing business with china, i mean, the threat is the message. howie: somebody says to suggest that because he doesn't like somebody's reporting this is not about acting unprofessionally in terms of personal conduct that maybe they shouldn't have -- >> this shows this is a revealing moment for donald trump, he's very thin-skinned, he's a media creature, he lives in the media, lives inside the tv box and he cares what people say about him, i don't know if it matters at the bottom line for the election. >> on that point, let me put up on the screen long tweet in which the president, the mainstream media has gone
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totally crazy, write whatever they want, never do fact-checking anymore, only looking for the kill, they are beyond fake, they are corrupt and then he says a real opponent is not the democrats or the dwindling number of republicans, our primary opponent is the fake news media, buck, does it help the president when he says there's no democratic nominee to say the primary opponent is the media? >> yeah, i think it helps him because right now, by doing that, what he's establishing is that he's, you know, his sporters for one love it, they see this as one of the main reasons why donald trump should have been president in the first place, say things about the media that needed to be said, most of the mainstream media is a bunch of activists, they don't really present themselves as neutral arbiters of fact and a lot of picked up because of trump and keeps them going forward when they do thicks
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outside of bounds of what so-called should be doing. cnn had trump during the hurricane -- howie: we mentioned that earlier. i mean, this is absolutely preposterous. everybody should know that. the point about source, that's cardinal sin for journalists, how many prominent journalists in dc burned source to get somebody during obama administration fired from the job, i think the answer is zero. howie: quick comment for you. >> what was i don't understand the bounds of the story that the post ran about his summer? >> i was referring to burning a source -- howie: all right, let me do turnout by playing beto o'rourke who said that we are going to bleep but wasn't bleep live on state of the union. >> 301 mass shootings a year, no other country comes close so this is -- howie: keep dropping
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f-bombs, do the media contribute the notion this is a cool thing that gives them street cred. >> using the f-bomb is lame, it is, i spend hours a day trying to excise the f word from his have cabbulation, -- >> what's your blanking opinion on this. >> look, i think beto o'rourke, candidacy has turned into something like a laughing stock already despite having raised more money which is pretty amazing in retrospect than any other senate in history because people were so desperate to defeat ted cruz, trying to get attention, that's what it looks like, somebody who is isn't getting for action and it's also a really bad thing for democrats and are always telling us that
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trump's course not reason to vote for him. howie: but as political piece points out it's not just beto o'rourke, president trump used bs, you can hear the words at any news rooms, folks but different when you're in front of cameras, good luck with your teenagers. [laughter] howie: after the break whoopi goldberg trying to blacklist donors and wants
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>> stars of will & grace start a furor of trump's donors in beverly hills, the reason mccormick tweeted so the rest of us can be clear who we don't want to work with. >> this is not a good idea. your idea of who you don't want to work with is your personal business, do not encourage people to print out lists because the next list that comes out your name will be on and people will be coming after you. howie: that didn't stop the president from hitting back hard saying nbc should fire her,
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joining us from chicago, carley shimkus, 24/7, siriusxm 115, what do you make of urging trade publication to print the names of those who are exercising right to go to a fundraiser, this one on behalf of the president, move that outraged whoopi who is hardly a trump fan. >> this was a really bad move on debra and eric mccormick and the crazy thing is that they both denied calling for a hollywood blacklist of conservatives when that's exactly what they did especially eric more cor mick who as you just said kindly reporting on who is attending the fundraiser who the rest of us know who not to work with, if that's not somebody to lose employment opportunity and i do not know what is, i only think that a lot of democrats read the tweets and cringed because this is just straight up flat-out bullying and a lot of people in the democratic party don't subscribe to that behavior, look at how whoopi goldberg respond
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today it, she was horrified a lot of people do. howie: i do not support blacklist or discrimination of any kind, who don't we want to work with, if that's not a boycott or a blacklist, what is, some say as we have been through this before, these are public records that donate to presidential candidates, why shouldn't the lists be made, it's easy if people compile it and say these are the people who dare give money to donald trump. >> you have the right to work with whoever you want to work with and look up things on your own and when you call literally a list to be made so that everybody knows who is conservative and who may be supporting president trump and cast them out i think crosses the line into dangerous
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territory. >> right, in the way same issue raised when people work with trump or support the president, refuse service in restaurants, protest at their homes and shouldn't go on dancing with the stars, case of sean spicer that seems to be tolerated if not encouraged by some elements of media i would say. >> yeah, you know, kanye west said a lot of interesting things when he came out as a trump supporter, i think dragon energy was one of them, one thing that he said that everybody should feel free getting behind, freedom of thought, you should feel comfortable supporting any political candidate, you don't have to feel pigeon hole into supporting a certain candidate based on community or your race and debra apologized for a tweet -- retweet that she posted and it talked about how black people who -- who vote for president
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trump have a mental illness. she apologized for that. howie: church in alabama, we can bring the camera back. bad actress is in hot water, blacklist of trump supporters, being accused of mcarthurism. fake news nbc would allow mccarthy-style to continue. actress should be fired from a network, does that cut the line? carley: listen, i don't think it's helpful to compare, draw comparisons between two tweets that should have never been posted, rosane barr apologized, sort of unhelpful move for the president to no matter what -- no matter how wrong debra was in this to be targeting her and
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saying she should be fired, however, will & grace is over i think in 2020 so she will no longer be employed by any nbc any time soon. howie: get his wish because the season -- final season would have ended. >> exactly. howie: good to see you, thanks so much. still to come, cnn dropping contributor until she took a job editing the conservative washington free beacon, that's (client's voice) remember that degree you got in taxation?
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aggressively conservative washington free beacon, will no longer be white house reporter breaking stories and, quote, pursuing a different career path and off that beat. johnson responded on twitter, i didn't know realizing becoming first editor-in-chief was pursuing career path, aisle still be in news business and perhaps covering white house. >> makes no sense at all when you go from one job to a better job, a reporter to editor-in-chief of news site, that's something that normally a news outlet would be happy about, your career is flourishing, not something to fire someone over. howie: johnson has not been on the air since and contract expires in november. cnn has dropped some of contributors, steve cortez, it does have some conservatives, do you see larger path here of
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johnson and what happened to the other poll snks. >> they are not hostile to conservative voices, the case of johnson, she has worked as conservative outlets but never seen indication that she's conservative on air and her work but they have people who are on air including post contributors and everything in between who are on the left, people who work for previous political administration, you have people spousing conspiracy theories from the left and that seems to be fine when it's reporters who are providing content, makes no sense, jeffrey zachary used to say you couldn't have a network where you didn't hear from both sides and people get frustrated here that they hear from both sides on panels but increasingly cnn is making it so there are no voices from side contrary. >> they do hear from people on both sides and people react the way they want to act, is it sort of she's taking over the free beacon, johnson and coming out
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as a conserve sieve and even -- conservative, and if so as paid analyst and now suddenly she's not? >> right, having more voices that understand conservative viewpoints would be good, we have a president who is in the republican party, you have the senate led by republicans, the idea that you're not going to hear from voices that understand voters that put the people in power is absurd and, in fact, rather than having moderate voices or people who show no indication of being conservative who might be friendly to conservatives, good for them to have far more voice who is were conservative and thinking and explaining the position to people. howie: not just cnn, cnn does have conservatives and so does msnbc and mostly happened to be conservatives who can't stand donald trump, and some cases careers are flourished and gotten from the right and not people who support the president, 85% support among republicans or 90%.
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>> donald trump is more well liked by people in his party than most presidents enjoy, many media outlets only have people on as republicans or as conservatives if they are cartoonishly hostile to donald trump that represents such a tinny fraction of the republic that it's really ib defensible to have the people having such high profile positions, they are obviously being used as way to further the antitrump extremism of many media outlets but why people will find the media still lacking in credibility. >> i have no problem having on conservative voices of people who don't like the president but i think there should be other conservative voice of people who do like the president, mollie hemingway, great to see you as always, that's it for this edition of media buzz, check out podcast, hottest stories that you can subscribe at apple itunes, google play or fox news podcast.com and we hope you like facebook page, post daily columns and original videos for the web, you comment and i comment back at howard kurtz, i
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would like to have dialogue and a week like this i have a feeling that we will have a lot of dialoguing going on, we will see you next sunday for the i would like to take a moment to address my fellow veterans, because i know there are so many of you who have served our country honorably. whether it's two years, four years or thirty-two years like myself. one of the benefits we as a country give our veterans is eligibility for a va loan for up to 100% of your home's value. so if you need money for your family, call newday usa. with automatic authority from the va, we can say yes when banks say no.
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>> we've made real progress but taliban overreached. they tried to use terror for negotiating. heather: happening at 4:00 a.m. on the east coast, fox news alert for you, enough is enough. president trump cutting all peace talks with the taliban after weeks of deadly terror attacks, outrage of camp david invite as the white house renews pursue to end the war
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