i know. (vo) go national. go like a pro. we will see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight" ." national security advisor john bolton got fired this morning, as you know doubt n hae heard. it's a major personnel change, but it's more thann that. it is great news for america. especially for the large number of young people who would have been killed and pointless wars if bolton hadto stayed on the jh they may not be celebrating tonight, but they should be. international oil prices, by the way, on the international market, dropped immediately onon the news. investors knew for certain that bolton planned on launching yet another middle eastern conflict that would inevitably spike energy prices. no doubt some energy speculators were disappointed to see bolton go. certainly many people in washington were disappointed.

senator chris murphy, democrat from connecticut, a progressive one at that, tweeted that he was well until mike "legitimate when shaken" to see john bolton leave the lighthouse, quite us. some of the power from a primarily responsible among other things for the historically catastrophic destruction of libya, the move that flooded europe with refugees, that official, samantha power, told reporters that the firing was a very troubling sign. believe it or not, a number of republicans made similar noises. senator met romney himself declared that heil was "very, vy unhappy" that bolton was reading done mike leaving. he went on to describe the national security advisor is "a brilliant man with decades of d experience in foreign policy." romney didn't say much about this experience -- he wasn't specific about it. why? probably because none of bolton's experience in the end helped america. romney is right. bolton has in fact been on the scenee for decades.

all of us are suffering the consequences of it. in whatever. details like that take no difference at all. in washington nobody cares what kind of job he did, only that you did the job. nobody learns from mistakes because mistakes are never even acknowledged, ever. john bolton himself took this form of selective amnesia to an art form. watch him perform it on the sho show. >> so so you called for regime change in iraq. in the first two countries with had regime change and honestly it's been a disaster. >> i don't agree with that. i think you need to understand that life is complicated in the middle east and when you say the overthrow of saddam hussein is simplistic. >> tucker: i would argue that -- >> it's your long experience in foreign policy. >> tucker: better record than yours, i would say. >> tucker: did you catch that?

rather than justify or even explain his own record, bolton instead brags that he spent a lot of time on the job. if you're wondering why so my progressives -- eke himself fundamentally was a man of the left. there was not a human problem that john bolton wasn't totally convinced could be solved with the brute force of government. that's an assumption of the left, not the right. don't let the mustache for you. john bolton was one of the most progressive people in the trump administration and by the way, naturally, once she was a sconce there, bolton promoted obama loyalist within the national security council. that shouldn't surprise you either. from the very first day, john bolton acted in effect as a fifth column within the white house. we want about him frequently on the show. when the president calls for peace with a heavily armed nuclear power, that is considered treason but when thec national security advisor calls for yet another pointless war, that's just elite consensus, and it's fine. a lifelong neocon bolton has

repeated the call for toppling the iranian government again and again. tellingly, he is never suggesten what might replace the iranian government wants of travel. to this day, max boot takes a paycheck -- bill kristol appears on msnbc, john bolton is this country's national security advisor. there's no consequences to the foolishness and dishonesty, none. yes, mr. president, john bolton does want to get you into a war. it's all he wants. it's what he dreams about. many wars, if possible, and if you're not careful, he'll do it. >> in between administration jobs, there always pushing pacing to paid speaking gigs, news contracts, disaster for america, but for john bolton and his fellow neocons, it is always good business. >> tucker: we invited him on the show tonight, he did not respond, he's always welcome,he that's a sincere invitation but in some ways the story isn't simply about john bolton, it's

about it's about the countless john bolton's who currently staffed the federal bureaucracy. deeply mediocre life are stronger on hubris protected by bulletproof job security. they're more likely to die on the job then be fired and they know it. these people have done an awful lot to make this country poor and sadder and more divided. the actual john bolton is gone, likelyev forever. the question tonight is will he be replaced by another john bolton just like in and are signsely there that that's possible. in fact in washington, it's always possible. change is not always for the better, don't lie to yourself. apparently on the short-list tonight to a place bolton is the president's special eepresentative for iran, brian hook. cook may be a good person. he's too an unapologetic neocon. sourcesru say he has undisguised contempt for donald trump as john bolton did he particularly disliked the president's nationalist foreign policy, which is one of the reason people voted for donald trump in 2016. one administration official recalls hook announcing that "i

think the president is reckless and doesn't understand policy." another source purge them directly say something very similar to foreign officials at a conference abroad. a choice like that, and here, by the way, is not the only one, not even close, a choice like that is really no choice at all. it's more john bolton with the same protectable disastrous results. at least met romney in the energy speculators will be happy. but the country won't be served. retired u.s. army colonel, author of the fantastic book margin of victory in the first man we go to for clarity on questions like this. colonel, thanks a lot for coming on tonight. >> sure. >> tucker: looking at the national security apparatus in washington post-john bolton, one of the things that need to be fixed first? >> well, i think the president has to go back to his first principles. hees recognized two things, whih is one of the reasons he was elected. first, it's been 75 years since the end of the second world war.

the war has changed, as has the interest of various countries in the world that once saw the world through a bipolar lens, they now see a multipolar lens. in the second part of it is we need to put an end to the global police missions, the use of military power to impose solutions on other people that other people don't want or need. put an end to the forever war is, if you will. those of the two things. we've got to go back to that. those have to be the lodestone lodestone's, the guidelines, if you will, for whatever happens from now on. >> tucker: so if you were given the president advice, what are the first things you would do? >> well, let's look at the broad-spectrum right now of what he's got in front of him. first of all, he's got to get out of afghanistan. that has to happen as soon as possible as i think i explained pretty clearly last night, talking to the taliban isar not goingy, they are to honor any agreements. it's time to get our forces out, get the. embassy out, the natios

in the region have an interest in the place, they want to have to deal with it, let them deal with it. we got to take a similar approach in syria. if we have perhaps 2,000 men on the ground in syria right now, very vulnerable force. iran, russia, turkey, israel, the kurds, iraq, all of these countries have an interest in what's happening there.f we really don't, but we do know that if we withdraw our force, they will come to an accommodation, because all of them want to see the same thing, an end to the fighting in the region, so we'veve got to get tm out. l and then we need to listen verys carefully to the iranians privately behind closed doors, find out what their interests are, and then look for areas where we can cooperate. and this is, after all, what president trump set out to do with president putin. he set out to do it with president xi. we need to do the same thing with iran and then beyond iran and afghanistan in the near east we have korea. he's got to start with an end of

war declaration. president xi, president trump, president moon, and premier cam all need to come together, sign and end of war declaration, because it renounces the use of force to change anything on the peninsula. that's what beijing wants, that's what pyongyang wants. then he needs to turn the operational control of the peninsula militarily over to president moon and the koreans, make them a truly sovereign state. give them responsibility for their ownry. country. and then we can sit down and then we can come up with a measured, delivered approach to dismantling the nuclear weapons and at the same time, linking that dismantlement to a troop withdrawal plan. there is no threat to us in south korea or a soft green allies or to japan from north korea.a. president trump was the first to recognize that north korea was circling the drain.

he was right. it's time for us to get out of the way and let the problems on the peninsula be resolved peacefully and deliberately as i've o outlined. and then when it comes to venezuela -- one thing about venezuela, we have been sanctioning everyone all over the world constantly. venezuela is probably become the poster child for the damage that sanctions can do. we have sanctioned that country to the point where if we do not relief -- will leave the sanctions, we run the risk of 8 million more people leaving that country. if that happens, then maduro has no opposition in the country. that is a catastrophe. so you've got to go back to these sanctions. look at what makes sense and does not make sense from a humanitarian standpoint, because the only thing sanctions have done is make the populations miserable. they do not change regimes. >> tucker: exactly. very smart and the implication ---- i know that you believe this, if that immigration ultimately is a national security issue. the sad thing is that everything

you outlined is t something that the president has either explicitly endorsed in public or suggested that he believes and it's been very hard to get any of it done because he's had the wrong people working for him and i really hope that changes and i hope he listens to you. thank, great to see you tonight, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: well, the departure of john bolton is done. how it happened turns out to be more confusing. chief breaking news correspondent trace gallagher joins us tonight with all the details. hey,ils. trace. >> hey, tucker. what is crystal clear is that john bolton on the president have strong disagreements on the handling of syria, north korea, iran, and afghanistan, and apparently it all came to a head last night when both of the president got into it over the taliban in afghanistan. john bolton says he offered to resign, but the president said let's talk tomorrow. then after sleeping on it, bolton issued this letter, quoting, "i hereby resign effective immediately as the assistant to the president for national security affairs.

thank you for having afforded me this opportunity to serve our country." 28 minutes after the resignation was delivered the president tweeted that bolton didn't quit, he was fired. "i asked john for his resignation, which was given to me this morning, but in a message to fox news, alton immediately fired back saying there wasno no request for resignation. a person close to john bolton wouldn't comment on the was he fired or wasn't a controversy, but that person did sneak in a last word n saying that since bolton has been national securitye advisor, there have been nono bad deals on iran, north korea, russia, and syria. the standoff on who fired who goes on. tucker. >> tucker: trace gallagher, thanks for that. some years ago cnn hired former obama official jim shooter, he's been delivering for them ever since. on monday, he appeared with what sounded like a blockbuster story. here's what it was.hat the cia, he said, had forced to

spirit an agent outside of russia because the president bungled handling of intelligence and put that agent's life in danger, watch. >> multiple trump administration officials with direct knowledge, that in the previously undisclosed secret mission in 2017 the u.s. successfully extracted from russia one of its highest level covert sources inside the russian government. person directly involved in the discussions says that the removal of the russian was driven in part by concerns that president trump and his administration repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence, which could contribute to exposing the covert source as a spy. >> tucker: another bombshell from jim and the geniuses at cnn, just like the last tenen bombshells that are going to bring down the president. this one turned out to be a little more complicated than itd seemed. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has details on that. hey, catherine. >> based on two decades covering the intelligencegll community, there is no harder decision for

the cia and pulling and intelligence asset, it's along a deliberate process in the final call based on multiple factors, not a single event or individual. responding to the cnn report blaming the president, and the cia took the unusual step of issuing the statement. misguided speculation that the president's handling of our nation's most sensitive intelligence, which he has access to each and every day, drove an election infiltration expression is inaccurate. citingte anonymous sources, to e russians about terrorism was a pivotal moment, renewing discussion among intelligence officials about the assets risk of exposure, but the oval office meeting was described to fox news as "irrelevant to the cia's decision-making." fox news have learned that the intelligence community assessment of russia's election interference publicly released in 2017, as well as media attention aboutth the source and their proximity to president putin, were major factors for the agency.

and it's important to note the cia does not pull an asset based on a single factor because once the asset is pulled, they can't go backnt into play in significantly the assets remaining network of contacts, in his case russia, could be retaliateder against. >> tucker: catherine herridge from a fascinating report, thank you for that. >> you're welcome. >> tucker: present a strategy from the left in washington for in effect ending the second amendment, it's called the red flaghe law. suddenly a lot of republicans are supporting the idea of a red flag law. but what is it exactly? how does it work, could it be misused? we will bring you the answers to all those questions next. ♪ ♪[upbeat music]

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♪ >> tucker: following the mass shootings last month in dayton, ohio, and el paso, texas, some democrats are pushing hard for the adoption of the federal red flag law. you may have or the phrase. what is that exactly? a red flag law would allow police to seize a person's guns without convicting or even charging that person with any crime. all they need to the do is decide that person is a threat to public safety. beto o'rourke is a big fan of red flag laws, he says they will dovetail perfectly with his other big policy idea, which is seizing americans guns out righ right. >> not only must we have universal background checks and red flag laws, but we also got to do this. we've got to stop selling weapons of war.

in the millions of weapons of war that are out there, we need to bring them off of the streets. get them out of our lives. >> tucker: okay, so that kid is annoying idiot, but just because he said it doesn't mean it's not going to happen. it turns out a lot of republicans are now saying they are open to red flag laws. they are upset about mass shootings. everybody is, everyone is looking for a way to prevent them. but a red flag law is the answer. if governments can simply take away her constitutional rights by deciding are dangerous and not proving it, and howard a constitutional in the first place? and ifri red flag laws require o criminal charges at all, what will protect you from being abused for political reasons? last week and synthesis scope the city's board of supervisors, remember, designated the nra and its 5 million members "a domestic terror organization. if if you think authorities in san francisco are going to do much to make certain your rights are protected? you think authorities in any big

tty will? where is this going exactly? it's worth asking thosena questions. dana loesch is an author, she thought a lot about red flag laws, she joins us tonight. thanks a lot for coming on. >> of course, thanks for having me. >> tucker: so this is one of those ideas, it's new. if you hear part of it, it kind of makes sense. you can sort of tell who the crazy people are. se think we can, anyway, and some of them have guns, and that's obviously bad and so why don't we just take the guns away to if you it that way, a lot of people support red flag laws, including a lot of republicans. younk say it's worth thinking through thewh consequences. what are those consequences? >> well, those consequences are great indeed and it's not just san francisco. there are even elected members of our house of representatives that have referred to a law-abiding gun owners as, and i quote,st "domestic terrorist and these are the individuals that would be implement think this red flag system. first off, the red flag proposal, and i've read the language of the laws in the 17

states that have passed these, including the district of columbia as well, it's all an inversion of our due process where you are presumed guilty and theny later on maybe -- i think in indiana on average it's about nine months, you have your day in court and you can try to get your property back and clear your name if you have been falsely accused. it is an absolute removal of a cornerstone of our republic and if republicans right now under the trump administration -- if they support this, if they support this and if they go in with universal background checks and everything else, they will have done more than barack obama when he was president, to undermine our second amendment rights. is that what they want their legacy to be? >> tucker: you never go broke underestimating the dumbness of some electric republicans, particularly in the senate, but this seems like going pretty far. you thinkkdo it's possible thatu would get on the record republicans supporting this?

>> i think so. i mean, there are a number already thatat have indicated tt they will. lindsey graham says that he supports red flag laws. we also have elected officials like dan crenshaw who said he's open to the idea of discussing them, so there's a lot of concern here. what people need to realize is the way that red flag laws work in the way they've been outlined in 17 states is that -- of the states differ as to who and how many and how close they are y to you, who can petition, who can report you, but in some states, pretty much any tom and harry can report you and say that they think are dangerous in your firearms and law enforcement -- they are not required to give advance notice. you're talking about serving no knock warrants and all of this other stuff, this kind of goes along with that. they can show up, no advance warning. in maryland there was a man killed. gary willis, 61-year-old man was killed when law enforcement showed up at his home before sunrise knocking on his door demanding to take his property. he had no idea what was going on

and they put law enforcement in a very uncomfortable spot, which is why a lot of sheriff's in a lot of different states are saying that they will not uphold these red flag laws also, but we have to think of these consequences. first off, it's dangerous. secondly, due process is inverted. in many instances people who are accused, like i said, indiana, the loss stipulated a 14 day waiting period, but that's on average nine months, you assumes the court costs for clearing your name, there is a florida man right now name jonathan carpenter whose name was similar to that of a criminal and even though they know it's not the same person, he still has to go through the court system, pay a lot of money, clear his name to get his property back. we are not thinking of the consequences. >> tucker: we are not, and we are not, we are also not remembering that for the left this is not about public safety or reducing violence,du please, it's about power. let's not lie to ourselves, great to see you tonight, thank you. >> good to see you, thank you. >> tucker: thought a lot about firearms, he is unfortunately the father of part one shooting victim metal pollock. he has a new book out called "why meadow died, the people and

policies that created the park when sugar and endanger america's students." he joins us now for his first interview about that book. thanks a lot for coming on tonight. so let me just ask you a questionir taken directly from e title of this book. the people and policies that made this possible, who are they? >> well, there's nothing i can do to bring my daughter back and i wish i could have taken those bullets that day and i couldn't, but what i can do is honor my daughter and expose what's in that book, why meadow died, and the policies are in there that made me so sick during my investigation other parents to t this book -- i even call it a manual now. a manual for parents to read to see what happened to me in parkland and my beautiful daughter and make sure it's not happening to their kids in their schools, because t these policis introduced by the left, what you call them, these obama era policies have been putting our

schools throughout the whole country and i had to expose it and nothing is going to stop me from exposing these people that let my daughter down. >> tucker: good forgo you. you hear almost nothing about this and i would encourage our audience of course to buy the book and see the whole c story, but pulled one of those policies out and hold it up to the light for us. give us one example, if you would. >> one of the examples in broward, when my daughter was going to school, students were allowed four misdemeanors per school year without being introduced to the judicial system and then at the end of oue year, if you can believe this -- that was in ninth grade you had a kid next year get in the classroom, commits four misdemeanors and then at next year in tenth grade, resets at zero again and is allowed another four misdemeanors per school year. so that's one of them. >> tucker: so that basically makes it impossible for school authorities to do anything about a threatening kid.

>> and the worst thing about it is, they don't make the parents aware of it. i found out recently that they actually had to frisk this kid before he went to school every morning. heed wasn't allowed -- with a backpack, that's how dangerous he was, and they put him in the school with my daughter and of parents think that it's only going on in broward county, they are mistaken, because these policies for obama has been pushed throughout all the schools throughout america and it's my job now, because the left, they don't want to hear my story. they want to blame the big old black scary gun, but that didn't happenen in broward and i know s facts and parents -- they be irresponsible not to read this book and send their kids to a school and say -- to me, the book is to educate parents. i want to be the last father that can save i truly didn't know what was going on at the

school. now parents have no excuse. >> tucker: and none of us do. i don't know where the rest of us were when these changes took pplace but i'm glad you're bringing them to light and i'm sorry about the circumstances of course. thanks for joining us tonight. >> thanks. >> tucker: pete buttigieg isn't just running for president. he's auditioning is the holy man. a biblical scholar. his latest lesson, using the bible to justify abortion through the third trimester of pregnancy. tonight, mayor pete's own brother-in-law says this is too much. an exclusive interview next. ♪

>> tucker: on the campaign trail, mayor pete buttigieg frequently uses religious rhetoric. he says american politics can be invited into the people and dissenters and you can guess which side republicans are on. now mayor pete is getting into biblical scholarship as well. in a recent interview he explained how actually the bible

says that unborn children are not alive and so abortion is okay. >> you go through the new testament, sure, and every other word that comes out of the mouth of christ is about things like open those in need and you got a republican party dedicated to its opposite. there will be a reckoning over it. right now they hold everybody in line with this one kind of peace of doctrine about abortion, right? which is obviously a tough issue for a lot of people. then again, as a lot of parts of the bible to talk about life begins with breath and so even that is something that we can interpret differently. >> tucker: at ryan glassman is senior pastor a community church of god in cleo michigan, he is also the brother-in-law of mayor buttigieg and called on his brother to repent after his latest remarks. joins us tonight. thanks for coming on. you are, by your own description, nonpolitical, and

are not seeking to attack your brother-in-law, but i felt it would be worth getting a review of the theology involved in this explanation of abortion. what do you think of it? >> absolutely, thank you for this opportunity and i would like to make a plea to pete buttigieg, my brother-in-law, that we he would reconsider his position and the way he has misrepresented scripture to push this pro-abortion platform that he's pushing. i would like to make a plea with him that he would reconsider and actually open his bible. i actually ask all people to open up their bibles as they are watching this in turn to psalm 1:30 nine, specifically verses 13 through 16 and how can you read those passages that talks about we are fearfully and wonderfully made in the image of god, intrinsically we are woven together in the woman's womb. i don't know how you can read that and come out of that with any other understanding that

life begins at conception and what's even more alarming is that those questions will withstand like mayor pete would and say that god condones -- that god says that abortion is okay according to scripture. that's just absurd and outlandish to me. >> tucker: so his contention, as i am interpreting it, is that the new testament says that abortion is fine until the child draws breath in other words, really through the end of the third trimester. do you -- i just want to be absolutely clear on this, is there any, in your view, christian interpretation of the bible that leads to that conclusion? >> absolutely not. i would just encourage all people to look at scripture -- again, back to psalm 1:30 nine, that we are created and life begins at conception. we need to get away -- this isn't a political thing to me, this is a spiritual thing to me and this isn't the dial of --

this is a god issue. this is a spiritual -- not a political issue and to be honest with you, this isn't even my opinion or pete's opinion. this is what does god say, what does the word of god truly say in the bible is just being misrepresented and misused to push a pro-abortion agenda and that is alarming, it's disgusting, it's frightening and it needs to stop. >> tucker: it is all of those things, i agree with you completely. having said this to your brother-in-law? >> i have not spoken this directly -- i hope he sees this. i hope all people watch this and he will reconsider, he will change his position, he will actually open up the bible and read through scripture, what scripture actually says. we need to create a culture that speaks of human life and human beings who have value. we are commanded by christ himself to uphold the dignity and respect of all human life. we need to stand for all the born and all the unborn.

>> tucker: so, you just said you would ask your brother-in-law to open up scripture and read this. his presidential campaign, as i've been watching it, is based on the idea that he is deeply versed in scripture, that he is a deeply christian man, he is running an explicitly, he says, christian campaign. >> i don't know how anyone -- what happens, we see in second peter, chapter four, that is a time, more people will turn away from doctrine and accumulate teaching that each their ears. basically what that persuades his people -- we are living in a time now as we see with mayor pete, that people are drifting away from sound doctrine to make the scripture say whatever they want to do to manipulate and distort christianity and what the word of god says to make their own desires and own pleasure. really it boils down to this, is what i believe, people either seek power when they are going to stand up for the powerless

and people -- the baby in the womb -- in the mother's womb is powerless. it's the most vulnerable person, human life, and so people have to make a decision. pete has to make a decision, are you going to stand up for the most vulnerable are you going to seek the power and distort scripture to meet your own political agenda that's exactly what we are seeing not just with pete, with the whole democratic, right on the line. >> tucker: that's exactly right. i think it's nicely put. let me just and on this, pete buttigieg is married to your brother. have you spoken to him about this? >> i am very open about all of this. and i hope all of them see this. i am very unashamed of the good news of. i'm a pastor, i share the gospel. politics is secondary to me, i'm about sharing the good news of christ and i hope people watching this -- i really -- i challenge americans as these democratic debates come up here in a couple of days and i'm assuming this topic is going to be brought up, the people would stop and actually think and

actually think, what are we talking about? we are with human life here. we're not talking about just a little blob of cells, we are talking about human life, and are we going to stand up for the dignity and respect -- when people stop and really think what do you really believe, not what your party believes. it would be wonderful to see a democrat -- i'm not going to going on the trail leveled the democrats are going to vote on, i think life in the womb is valuable and has intrinsic value and i would like to see someone stand up and do that. >> tucker: democrats say she thought third trimester abortions bad. glad you came on, hope you get a chance to talk to brother-in-law. thanks. because thank you. >> tucker: in montgomery county maryland the toll of illegal immigrant sex crimes keeps rising. we are now at eight, eight reported, and just the last six weeks. local government is not

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♪ >> tucker: illegal immigration in the montgomery county maryland continues unabated. in fact, authorities there are helping it, but the toll is rising dramatically. an illegal immigrant from nigeria. according to county authorities, the recently raped an intoxicated woman inside her car, that would make in the eighth illegal alien charged with a offense and montgomery county in the last six weeks, since july 25th. amazingly, this man, now charged with a sex crime, has stayed in the united states despite past very serious run-ins with the

law, not minor stuff, major stuff. for example, in august 2018, this man was charged with second-degree assault, folsom prison meant, and a fourth degree offense, but somehow prosecutors drop those charges, stayed in america despite being here illegally and the new charges of the results of that. ken cuccinelli is acting director of the u.s. customs and immigration services and he joins us tonight. thanks very much for joining us. >> good evening. >> tucker: so we've been following, horrified, as the toll of offenses and montgomery county maryland has risen by illegal aliens. clearly the county -- the flaming neo-nazis. they are completely unwilling to protect their own citizens. can the federal government do anything? >> even though montgomery county won't cooperate with eyes, it still does its job of removals.

you noted the most recent illegal who was charged with sexual assault, rape, most recently, had previously ceidentified to law enforcement- they didn't let ice know. they undoubtedly knew he was illegal and get did not notify federal officials. when they don't know when a criminal is present, ice doesn't even know to try to pick them u up. alonemery county is still on this, their major pg county. we've all been reading it in the last few days about north carolina, the victims down there, almost 500 of these folks released without giving ice notice and is a people know we want to get rid of the criminal aliens, but they are the very same ones who enact the sanctuary policies that in

fact harbor these exact illegals who are committing other crimes in the communities in this country. >> tucker: is there anything the feds canan do? montgomery county maryland and all of these jurisdictions are in defiance it seems to be a federal law. is there anything that can be done about t t it? >> they're certainly not cooperate with federal law and i can tell you is a former attorney general that it is a long really nonpartisan history about cooperating across levels federal, state and local law enforcement. this is a very recent phenomenon where people see political advantage to playing games with more enforcement and public safety on the left. and it is having tragic, tragic consequences for these communities. >> tucker: it certainly is. thanks so much for joining us tonight. >> good to be with you. >> tucker: well, for decades,

conservatives for some reason have conceded the environmental issue to the left. cy? the left is dominated by climate extremists who want to bound airplanes and take away a plastic straws. people who know nothing about -- never even go outside and environmentalwh issues. what if it was concerned enough to try and win over people who care about nature, preserving green spaces, natural beauty, ending letter, keeping this country clean, that's most people, by the way, certainly me. chris buskirk is editor and publisher, a fantastic new piece which you shouldul read called w conservatives can protect the environment and win voters too. joins us tonight. thanks so much for writing this piece and for coming onom tonig. why have conservatives allowed this issue, love of nature, to be hijacked by the left? >> i have no idea. i've got this theory that for the past 20 years everything has

been sort of defined by the climate change debates, so the left says climate change, climate change, climate change, if we don't do something extreme tomorrow that allows the government to intrude all over every personal liberty that you have, than the planet is going to be destroyed in five years in the human race is going to go extinct. it's one side, on the other side, conservatives have allowed themselves to do nothing more than try and negate it. to say no, we don't think that's true and it's just another example of the ethic that conservatives, american conservatives seem to have which is our only job is to stand and yell stop and it's stupid. it is just a loser philosophyg and we have to come up with b something that's better than that. we have to be able to put forward good policies that actually promote and protect the environment, that promote green spaces, that you are saying protect nature. these are things that should be uncontroversial and hit climate change has become an excuse not to do anything.

>> tucker: that is it and you make your point in his piece that's exactly right. it's become an excuse to let the actual natural environment to grade. one of the great things in my opinion -- the great thing about this country is its natural beauty, it has no parallel in the world and yet it's getting dirtier. there's litter and graffiti everywhere, why wouldn't conservatives spearhead efforts to clean up america? >> this is a huge pet peep with me. i don't understand, you're conservative so we have the self image, where the people who clean up our lawns. where the people who just sort of do the right thing and the people of personal responsibility. why doesn't that apply to the country as a whole? who would rather have beautiful cities, go to new york, los angeles, these are cities degraded quickly and that is part of the environment too. the u.s. serve a study that i cite in the piece that the united states loses 36 million trees in urban areas every single year. that makes those urban areas less beautiful, it makes them a less pleasant and by the way it

also makes them hotter and drie drier. our reforestation program should be something that is totally uncontroversial that will be very popular and got conservatives seem to lack the vocabulary talk about these issues. >> tucker: i absolutely couldn't agree more varied by thee. way, crowded places are uy places. i mean, you could make a really strong case for restricting immigration on environmental grounds. we've made that case on the show, i believe it strongly. i hope conservatives will read your piece and reclaim their birthright given to them by teddy roosevelt, i would argue, as storage of the environment because we should be that. thank you for beginning that ke>> thank you. >> tucker: chick-fil-a has a lot of enemies, but it keeps getting bigger. there's a new protest against its growing influence around the world in canada. wait until you see the video. canadians mad about chick-fil-a. we've got to chat with more to respond to their concerns next.

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>> tucker: chick-fil-a has been offering tasty chicken sandwiches and great service in this country for many years.suc. finally, this week, the company expanded its brand to the frozen north, canada. not everyone is happy about this.zein toronto, activists carried signs andheldd dead on the floor. played dead on the floor. what are they mad about? basically, everything. some didn't like eating meat. some said the company is anti-gay.somehow, one activists claimed that chick-fil-a's existence is an attack on canada's indigenous people somehow. chad mcmoore is a journalist in. he joins us tonight to explain what the heck just happened. what you think this is about? what is the main problem people have with chick-fil-a? >> well, the lord's chicken, as you mentioned, is very, very popular.heand it has come to ca.

what is the exact problem? was chicken lives matter, was gay lives matter? was it gay chicken lives matter? the answer is yes, all of the above. >> sean: all of the above. the big issue that they seem to have with chick-fil-a, at this point, the attacks are so regular that you can set your watch by them. a i have this theory that the reason is that the ceo of the company, who's a christian and gives his own time and own money to christian causes has never apologized. he's never bowed down to the left. he's never gone to the lgbt reeducation camp that someone in his position is expected to do. this really throws them for a loop. they don't know how to handle it. if you have an obnoxious child throwing a temper tantrum, youay

can either run through it and coddle it and say, what can i do? or just don't like you to be quiet. tell me what you want? of course, that's just reinforcing negative behavior. w or you can ignore the child and let it scream and let it cry. hopefully, it will shut up eventually and learn a lesson.tl scanment the chick-fil-a approachou when it comes to thee protesters. >> tucker: let them cry. >> chadwick: it let them cry. it's a tough love approach. but it's going to be a tough few years. they announced that there are 15 locations opening into toronto areaar in the next few years.i . >> tucker: that's our approach on this show. let them cry. they want you to kiss the ring more than anything. they want you to bow down and acknowledge their authority. i think people with dignity will never do that.very smart. thank you. great to see you tonight. >> chadwick: great to see you. thank you. >> tucker: we are out of time amazingly. we are celebrating john bolton's departure so much, the hour went by.we'll be back tomorrow night 8:00 p.m.

the show that is the sworn enems and group thing. hopefully the cheerful enemy of all those things. have a great evening with the ones you love. sean hannity is next to live from new york city. >> sean: all right tucker. great show as always. busy night tonight. welcome to sas hannity.we begin. tonight, we are tracking three huge breaking stories, including in an important special congressional election in north carolina.we will bring yos live as they become available. also, we have huge news surrounding lieutenant general michael flynn.his attorney is pt today, and she is fighting for the release of exculpatory material held by andrew weissmann.around his cro. sidney powell will join us with an exclusive interview. that's all coming up. but, first, we start with an egregious example of fake phony fraudulent news as always. just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, well