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>> thank you. >> tucker: we are out of time. we will be back tomorrow night. 8:00 p.m. the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, groupthink. >> sean: a busy news night. we begin with the fox news alert. the department of justice has now paved the way for former deputy fbi director andrew mccabe to possibly be indicted. tonight, fox news has learned federal prosecutors recommended moving forward with criminal charges against mccabe after his last minute appeal was officially rejected. mccabe was one of the second highest ranking members of the fbi. the interim director after jim comey was fired and mccabe was jim comey's right-hand man and he was trusted to oversee some of the highest profile cases in the bureau and in the country. in 2018 andrew mccabe was fired. why? for lying and for leaking. the doj inspector general issued
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a seething rebuke of the firing of the director and it was determined that he lacked candor. that is what was determined. then andrew mccabe lacked candor including under oath on multiple occasions in connection with describing his connection to disclosure to "the wall street journal." the ig also accused mccabe of leaking sensitive information to the press and blaming the leaks on other people, including "mccabe violated the fbi and the department's media policy and constituted misconduct." as you can see, mccabe's character is anything but sterling. a perfect guy for fake news cnn. he also played a vital role in the fraud against carter page, proving warrants that relied on the dirty dossier. mccabe infamously saying no fisa warrant. he told the committee, no surveillance warrant.
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would've been sought from the fisa court without the steele dossier information. later the fbi found out none of it was true. over 90% proved false. they have been warned of a multiple government agencies by many high-ranking officials. they were also warned about using that dossier by at least one foreign government. his so-called intelligence was unreliable, not verified, russian disinformation." , "the new york times," likely from the beginning. bought and paid for by hillary. that is true. "the new york times" is right, likely russian disinformation from the beginning. that would mean that russia and vladimir putin wanted hillary to win. he testified under oath that he has no idea if any of the contents are true. when the fbi to get around to trying to verify, they concluded we can't find anything true here. they were able to prove under 90% of it.
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three warrants of the four he signed a said it was true and accurate. at the top of the fisa warrant is has verified. that makes his premeditated on the pfizer cord. they were born, hillary paid for it and it wasn't verified. none of that seem to matter. mccabe like his boss jim comey hated donald trump. reporting to the former fbi council james baker, mccabe was a dead about the idea, surreptitiously reporting the president of the united states and making the case that trump should be removed from office. rod rosenstein was serious about the wire and others serious about invoking the 25th amendment. my sources telling me mccabe could face criminal charges but a grand jury will be convened, ten days, seven, ten, 14 days. we will wait and see. but i want to be very clear. i want andrew mccabe to know
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this. oh, yeah, the lawyer for stormy daniels, i give him the benefit of the doubt. we live in a country where accusations against anybody, even from the doj inspector general and former colleagues of the fbi, yeah, they are incredibly, aren't they? but everybody deserves the presumption of innocence. innocent until proven guilty and i will not deviate from that. it looks bad. it looks like mccabe will face just as very soon. no one has to wonder if he's failing to family tonight about his treatment and jim comey's treatment of a 33 year veteran. here with martin i, fox news contributor sara carter. you know, i look at this, i read the original report and i thought, why did it take this long. if you don't tell the truth, look what happened to all the other people on the other side of this thing when there was no russia collusion. >> remember, this is part of a much bigger investigation. what we are looking at here is the u.s. attorney jesse lewis
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was recommending charges against andrew mccabe, but this is just based on the inspector general's report. remember, john durham is also conducting an investigation. an expansive investigation that will include andrew mccabe, james comey, will include all the players at the top of the food chain in the trump-russia bro. they did recommend those charges. mccabe tried to get those charges dismissed. they went and met with line agents. they also spoke with the head, the deputy attorney general, jeffrey rosen. i know they had multiple meetings with them, with all of the folks at the doj, and they denied that. they rejected that appeal. right now, mccabe is actually facing a lot of hot water, and i asked my sources, where does it go from here? where does he go now? what happens next? he says they are not going to
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talk about that yet but it looks like he is facing criminal charges and we will have to see whether or not a grand jury is appointed. >> sean: you say we may have to wait for the durham report in january. the pfizer report by the inspector general, will determine what is clearly obvious, that it was premeditated, those warrants were attained immediately and that is a slam-dunk. you don't have to be a harvard law grad to figure that out. >> you don't have to be a harvard law grad. very familiar, very well connected to the case are saying that they are taking this one step at a time. this was a huge step. i know lawmakers right now, particularly republican lawmakers i spoke with today on capitol hill, mark meadows, these other people that have been directly involved in this, are allowing this decision by saying, this is a step in the right direction, this is the first of the dominoes to fall and they expect a lot more
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information to be upcoming in the next few months. whether that includes other people, i don't know yet. and i don't know at this moment whether or not we are going to see more information come out from this report. >> sean: sara carter, investigative reporter, thank you. tonight federal prosecutors appear said to pursue an indictment against andrew mccabe from a grand jury. keep in mind a new york judge once famously said that a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich. unfortunately it is true. i prefer a system that allows the defense at times, i'm saying this at this time, for a reason. to at least be heard before any indictment is issued. even people i may not like and definitely disagree with. that inspector general report was beyond damning. he is in big trouble tonight. as he wrote in his book, the follow-up to his number one best seller called "witch hunt,"
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let's look at this from the legal side. we read the initial ig report. we know what he said about lying and leaking. it seems to have taken a long time. andrew mccabe, what is he thinking tonight? >> thinking about how to negotiate a plea deal. there will be a presentation before an existing grand jury. your analogy to the ham sandwich, famous old saying is absolutely true. the evidence against him is overwhelming. he denied that he helped deliver evidence to "the wall street journal." in fact, he did. he denied knowing who authorized it. he did. he was given multiple opportunities to correct the record. he didn't. in an audio recording, he doubled down with more false denials. his defense is he suffered an onset of incoherence and amnesia and it was all just a terrible
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misunderstanding and communication. the facts and evidence suggest otherwise. i don't think it will ever get to a jury, i think it will be good for other potential prosecutions because then he may be a witness against others at the fbi, including the fellow by the name james comey. >> sean: i don't have a lot of time, we have a lot of breaking news tonight. you suspect that these fisa warrants were obtained illegally and will that fisa report by the ig say that? >> the evidence suggests they absolutely were obtained unlawfully. the judges were deceived. the court had concealed evidence. evidence was concealed from them. that is a fraud, it is perjury. different felonies. i think the real case is yet to be presented and it will be in
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the inspector general report and there will be, i suspect, criminal referrals. >> sean: thank you. we turn now to a story from the radical left-wing extreme democrats. this time in the house of representatives and speaker in name only nancy pelosi. she is now furious. she is humiliated. she has lost all control of the house. going against nancy pelosi's obvious which wishes. jerry nadler taking official steps towards an impeachment proceeding against president of trump. what bribery, high crimes, and misdemeanors are they going to go with? they have not picked one yet but they are going to. good luck to you democratic congressman, and those districts that trump won. good luck. alexandria ocasio-cortez saying she wants every republican to go on record i knowingly vote against impeachment. okay, that won't be hard. nancy pelosi seems to know that impeachment proceedings are political suicide. he didn't seem too happy about all of this.
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>> are you comfortable with the term impeachment inquiry? is there another term we should be using? >> we are on our path. we will follow the facts. that is what it is. why don't we spend some time going over to see mitch mcconnell and asking him why he doesn't want to save lives. why he will do every day go by where at least 100 people, large numbers of them children and teenagers, die from gun violence. why is it that you are hung up on the word over here when lives are at stake over there? thank you all. >> sean: wait a minute, why don't you want to save lives customer 90% of the heroin and a lot of the fentanyl is coming over the border. that is coming across the border. we are losing 300 americans a
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week on average. at the full report of the democrats' impeachment hysteria, chad pergram is with us. this is getting entertaining. >> very much though. house speaker nancy pelosi is trying to satisfy both wings of the party. this is what happens when you get the majority. you have members across the spectrum. liberal democrats and moderate democrats. this is a risk for moderate democrats who represent battleground districts. take the democratic freshman, he flipped a swing district from red to blue in upstate new york. >> are you at all concerned about representing -- you rep g district, about democrats pushing too much for impeachment? >> as a democrat representing a moderate district, the voters sent me here to get things done. i worry it doesn't take
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attention away from some of the other issues. >> he had won what was a republican state, in florida. he said, impeachment is a sucking all the air out of the good things we are doing. he adds he doesn't know if democrats can finesse impeachment. that is because impeachment is such a key part of the liberal platform. democrats will privately tell you that impeachment is a black hole. its gravitational pull is irreversible. once you cross the political horizon, it consumes everything. impeachment claims into g.o.p.'s hands. republicans, a constant conversation about that could help craft the narrative. >> sean: chad sits at the capital all day. he writes the hitchhikers guide to everything and if you think you know something about congress, forget it. chad, great report. thank you. tonight, we are also tracking breaking news from "the hill's" john solomon who obtained a
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letter from the state department from senators ron johnson and chuck grassley. that letter demands more information surrounding in october 2016 2016 meeting betwn christopher steele and kathleen cadillac and others. while we do know that he issued a warning to the doj, this is not verified. he has a deadline about glaring inaccuracies in the steele dossier and intelligence. a lot of questions surrounding his meet up with the state department. john solomon is with us, investigative reporter. this is huge. you broke the story. she was telling them, don't do this, don't trust them. this is an agenda. this isn't verified. >> absolutely. we broke the story on "the hill," and back in may. the inspector general, the other state department inspector general, he got involved and started looking at this. here's what we have been told they uncovered. they have evidence surrounding
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the conduct of steele, there was anti-trump conduct going on. there was something political about why they brought a steele the state department. they have now been referred to the office of special counsel. that the second thing we have learned, the people responding to christopher steele at the state department were inappropriately using private emails. does that sound familiar customer a guy named john boehner who worked in part of the state department was meeting with steele regularly, he was using private email to do state department business. why are they doing that, what is going on there? here's the third and perhaps most disturbing part. after the ig uncovered all of this, they chose not to interview any of the key player players. they didn't talk to their boss, and there is some real concern between these two senators that this wasn't given a lot of
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attention given how much they are his conduct was uncovered over the last two months. >> sean: the last question, exit question. do you believe the ig report on fisa that this was premeditated fraud on top of bruce ohr and the british government, all warned everyone at the doj, fbi, don't trust this guy. it was never verified. the top of the fisa ward to said verified. i've been told again and again here the question is, premeditation. they were all born, bad idea. they didn't verify it until, as you point out, months and months later when they laid it all out in 90% wasn't true. that was your story also. the question is is that premeditated. will they conclude those fisa were obtained illegally? that is the big million-dollar question. >> i never go to the casino because i never win but i will say this, there is a preponderance of evidence that the fisa warrant was knowingly
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and willfully inaccurate, incomplete, misleading and fisa court. >> sean: is it more than a preponderance? isn't it overwhelming and incontrovertible just looking at your reporting customer if they knew and they didn't care and they didn't vet it, right? >> to get how bad the situation is, we've been talking about a for a long time, i've been hearing that the justice department is nearing a decision to release ten or 12 of the most important documents before the fisa warrant, ig report, that will allow all of us to see how bad it was before we see the ig's conclusion. i think that could happen later this month. >> sean: i certainly hope they don't dump it all in a day because nobody could absorb that. that is my humble opinion. joining us now with more and all the big news today, these developments. president trump's attorney, chief counsel for the american center for law and justice, jay sekulow. he has had that claim for me in the past. full disclosure, i apologize for
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whatever trouble you were getting me out about the time. kidding. no trouble. let's start with the mccabe. your thoughts. >> i think his lawyers made an attempt to get the case killed. obviously, the u.s. attorney in the district of columbia thought there was a case that should be brought. his lawyers disagreed. they took it up to the deputy attorney general under what was basically an internal appeal. the deputy attorney general in contemplation with his team reviewed it and sent it back saying no, we don't think that you are correct off of mccabe's lawyers. in fact, the u.s. attorney now can proceed with bringing a case. it will go to the grand jury, the grand jury will then hear the evidence and in all probability issue an indictment. that is what happens. it's not just one count with the mccabe. it's at least three, according to the report that was issued. let me tell you this, they call
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it lack of candor, but in indictment, it is called a 1,001 violation. it's perjury. that's what this allegation is. i want to be clear on this. i think this is just the beginning of the problem for these individuals that were running the department of justice. andrew mccabe was not a line agent. andrew mccabe was the deputy to james, and then served as the acting head of the fbi. this guy was in charge of what was going on in that fake bob mueller scenario we lived through for two and a half years. by the way, you haven't asked me this yet, listen to what the members of congress are saying about bob mueller's report. we are going beyond that now. we are going beyond that. we've got to go beyond that because there is nothing there. i think mccabe is going to be brought to justice. the grand jury will make a
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decision whether or not to indict. when they do that, he will either play as gregg jarrett said or he will go to trial. that -- look, i still think this is a very small part of a much bigger problem. this is just a little bit of what took him. >> sean: let me ask you this question i've been asking everyone tonight. okay, john broke that story, warning don't trust this guy. he's got an agenda. they never verified the dossier. we now know it is unverifiable. they have bruce ohr and even the british government, can't wait to get that letter. if you don't listen to the warnings and you don't verify a dossier and you present it before court and months later, the fbi determines it is a false, is there anything wrong with me determining as a nonlawyer that that is premeditated fraud, violating the constitutional rights and backdoor spying on a campaign
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into president? >> when he was president-elect in january 2017 he said look, this is unverified and salacious. but they were using it to obtain fisa warrants. again, james comey got off, so to speak, on a leak of a document to a member of the press. this is much more serious than that and that is why james comey was almost trying to take him although he didn't take his victory lap, he could have taken a victory lap because he also knows there is exposure there for him in the statements. he was running this investigation. it started as cross fire intelligence, and to take a document and give it to the court, you know that document, you know that document is not verified, guess what that is called. fraud on the court. it is a felony. multiple felonies.
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>> sean: that his treatment of general plan. i took advantage of the chaos. him and mccabe, wow. >> james comey said it. he said, i went in, mccabe says he doesn't need a lawyer, got in there before the administration was settled and so i could take advantage of the situation. these are the people that are running our federal bureau of investigation. that is not very good for the american people and i'm glad the president took the action he is, fire james comey. >> sean: one last point. when he said salacious and unverified in january 2017, in october 2016 and after january 2017 he said it was verified. wow, he lied. thank you. when we come back, fake news cnn coming to the defense of their liar and leaguer andrew mccabe. shocking. mark meadows next. also tonight, the great one, mark live in. we talk to him earlier. he is on fire. buckle up. if you live with diabetes, why fingerstick when you can scan?
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>> sean: the ig, the guy they said was a liar and a leaguer, andrew mccabe is in hot water after the u.s. attorney recommended moving forward with charges against the now disgraced former deputy director of the fbi and of course, he got
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probably the single worst, dumbest so-called legal analyst on television over at fake new cnn. this guy, jeffrey toobin. he rushed to mccabe's defense, of course. he is sucking up to his boss. watch this. >> and mccabe is a cnn contributor, a colleague and friend to many of us who work here. he is here recently but people need to back that up into what they are hearing. this is an extremely unusual prosecution. you never have the right ally to an inspector general. if you like, it is a crime. but lying to an inspector general is very rarely prosecuted. lying in these very esoteric circumstances where it's about this conversation, that conversation, is rare. >> sean: it's esoteric, it's called lying. problem. here with reaction, congressman mark meadows from the great
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state of north carolina. former u.s. attorney for the district of columbia. the great joseph digenova and the better part of that partnership, former deputy assistant general victoria toensing. you were at the republican retreat, i understand it. the president spoke. how did it go? >> the president brought the diesel tonight. he did a great job. obviously fired up the crowd. was very jovial as he addressed the members of the republican conference. more importantly, set out why 2020 was so important. tonight, it's about holding people accountable. for two and half years we have had a russian collusion narrative not based on facts. we are starting to hold people accountable starting with andy mccabe but not finishing there, including james comey, peter strzok and others that need to be held accountable for their actions. >> sean: i use ww hth standard.
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what would happen to hannity? at the ig concluded i was a liar and a leaguer. in that position i think hannity would go to jail. that is my guess. you're a great lawyer. i would go to you and victoria and say good luck, see you later. or if i had a premeditated fraud on us before court, we know multiple warnings, it's a dirty dossier and agenda. hillary, don't use it but they used it anyway. apparently, the brits warned us including bruce or. why would we ever expect anything but the ig to come back with, this is premeditated fraud against the court, you were born, you never verified it, it is verified. that would be premeditated fraud. why would we expect anything less than that from the ig? >> we wouldn't. remember this all started on july 5th, 2016, when james comey exonerated hillary clinton and at that moment became, what i call, america's dirty cop. he had a subordinate by the name
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of andrew mccabe, who is now known to be a dirty cop. mccabe, james comey, peter strzok, lisa page, clapper, sally gates and othersm going to say this, this is seris stuff, they engaged in acts of sedition against the united states government, against the president of the united states. make no mistake about it. the fisa warneds are key evidence, false fisa applications knowingly submitted to the fisa court, part of a series of acts of sedition against the duly elected government of the united states. i hope that in the analysis of all these cases it's not just about lying, or not telling truth to investigators. these people sought to overthrow the government of the
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united states through acts of sedition. let's see if we get there. >> sean: victoria, do you agree with joe? >> i always agree with joe but i would like to make a related point. >> sean: joe, do you agree with that last statement or is that lack of candor? >> i am agnostic on all these questions. >> sean: over the, okay. a lot of courage you are showing. good luck. >> let me make a related point because you're talking about how you would get treated, the difference. the trump administration created andrew mccabe much kinder, gentler, with much more professionalism than he ever treated general flynn. bill barr's justice department would never have gone to andrew mccabe and said, if you don't plead guilty with this crime we are going to charge you with we are going to go after your son. never what they have done that as they did to general flynn. what's more, mccabe was given several opportunities to clarify his statement.
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general flynn was given one. that was it. one interview. in the last point about this is that andrew mccabe lied to cover up misconduct. general flynn's so-called lies were about a conversation that was absolutely legal. if general flynn can be indicted than andrew mccabe must be indicted. >> sean: i want to know about jim comey. you were born, you didn't verify, then you said, i didn't verify it and i did verify it t. that is a problem, mark meadows, for jim comey. >> it's worse than that, sean. in october 2016, we now know that there were emails and communication back and forth between the state department and others, we also knew there was a real credibility problem. that was before the very first fisa. we also know that there was credibility problems,
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senator ron johnson, senator grassley are looking into some of those state department contacts. there are dozens of protocols that were broken. i would suggest that there were a number of laws that were broken. and ultimately, james comey, andrew mccabe, peter strzok, glenn simpson all have to be held accountable. but more importantly than that, we are going back right now and looking at the testimony of james comey, of andrew mccabe, and peter strzok. now matching it with what we know and we are finding a number of regular inconsistencies there that would suggest that perhaps not everybody was truthful with congressional investigation. a lot more to unfold but certainly today is a good step forward for justice and for all of your viewers who are saying it's about time some but he goes to jail. >> sean: do you believe, exit question, don't have a lot of time, do you believe that in
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fact those warneds were illegally obtained and there will be no ambiguity that those fisa warrants were illegally obtained. >> i don't think there is any doubt that all four warrants were purposely, illegally obtained to cover up other illegal spying that had gone on for four years by stealing data from nsa through contractors. absolutely. all four fisa warrants were purposely obtained illegally. >> end of hillary clinton had been elected we would never know about it. >> sean: powerful. thank you all. appreciated. we have other news tonight. before he asked the great one about this particular question, this tuesday in israel they have a historic election. they have the most messed up a system over there. i don't know how they can even figure it out but he is a man of moral clarity, benjamin met and now who is facing a challenge.
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he won the last time. bombshell report, this is amazing. in israel from channel 12, also reported by reuters and "the new york times," look at this from "the new york times," israel security service discovered iran actually hacked his mobile phone raising questions about israel's national security. reacting to this, the author of, wow, 15, 16 weeks now, number one on "the new york times" best seller, i call him the great one, i'm looking at what is happening in israel, and they have a worse fake news problem that we have come away worse worse, and i'm thinking, this we than a one-day story and don't ask me any more questions. >> i've been watching what is going on in israel and it's very upsetting. in a word, their media sucks.
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it's very left wing. much like our media hate the donald trump. the thing about gantz that amazes me, this is a former general purity think he would know that when he uses a private phone that the iranians or somebody are tapping in. the iranians know what is on the phone. the iranians know what he said but the israeli people don't because he won't come clean. in the united states if you don't come clean about something like that whether it is an affair or whatever else it is you can't get a security clearance. even the lowest official can't, why? because of the potential for blackmail. it's not enough for a former official to say they can't blackmail me, nothing happened. another thing, you see this today and political. politico is a left-wing new site that obama officials loved to leak too. israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near the white house. the target, they say, is intended to spy on donald trump.
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i think i'm israel, why would they do that? then he read in the article, where does this come from? three former senior u.s. officials. in other words, obama appointee appointees. obama appointees planted this. they planted it in an american news site in order to try to create hostility between our president trump and prime minister who are very close. in fact, trump and netanyahu are as close as any president has ever been. the worst president that israel has ever experienced in its short life and by the way, the united states too. i look at this and i think about what is going on here. follow this. closer to who? joe benenson. who is joel benenson, america and israel? he was a strategist for obama in 2008 and 2012. in his campaign. the strategist for
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hillary clinton and her campaign. who is he a strategist for now? the blue and white party. this is a dirty trick. at this a sleazy trick. americans and israelis need to know the left-wing in our country and the media in our country are like this. they worked together. just as they do in israel. they are trying to take on netanyahu just as they are trying to take on trump today paid by the way now that you have me here, do you see this customer and you know what this is quest monkeys at the ridiculous allegations brought by ridiculous allegations against netanyahu. i doubt the american people care and i doubt the israelis have actually read this. i read it. as of former chief of staff in the reagan administration, this is in disgrace. an absolute disgrace like the allegations against our
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president. i looked at the three allegations. the first allegation, the prime minister of israel accepted cigars and champagne. gifts. you know what this attorney general did? he added gifts from another prison to make it look like the cigars and champagne that benjamin netanyahu received was an enormous amount. you know what, mr. attorney general? what you did is unethical. look at the second chart. bribery, fraud, breach of trust. on fairly irrational. the prime minister actually refused to be bribed. one media outlet seeks legislation that would help against of the media competitor in exchange for positive news. the prime minister had no intention of promoting the legislation and it wasn't even possible for him to promote the legislation because the suspension was taking place before it could even happen. then i look at the third, which is supposed to be the big blockbuster charge. it's loaded with hyperbole, idiotic assertions, it's about
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press ethics. not the conduct of the prime minister of the state of israel. claims the prime minister sought positive media, like no politician does that. they might as well take a crime tape and wrap it around because this website was going to do positive news on behalf of the prime minister of israel in exchange for certain policies and regulatory changes. there is no direct evidence whatsoever in this long winded, verbose, full of phony adjectives charge. what he is basically saying is i don't like the press policy of this particular press owner and i don't like the policies of the prime minister of israel. therefore, i'm going to make an allegation. these allegations, like the charges against our president, hang up the head of the prime minister throughout the last several months. i would just say to the israeli
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israelis, you have the modern-day winston churchill. don't make the same mistake the british made, because i guarantee you, the enemies that surround you, particularly i ran, you will come to regret it. that is my personal opinion. >> sean: i happen to share it. moral clarity. look at this relationship with trump. recognized the sovereignty, look at the partnership they have. i hope and pray the people of israel won't coup. thank you. marks show. we have the run. 10:00 p.m. right here on the fox news channel. up next, this is so absurd and ridiculous. i mean, it really is. it's hard to believe. the rate at an art exhibit in italy had a mock oval office desk reading her deleted emails. you can't make this up. dan bongino next. losed off.
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♪ >> sean: by the way, twice failed presidential candidate hillary clinton being mocked tonight. she actually posed at an art exhibit in italy at a mock oval office desk, which is pretty pathetic in and of itsel itself. but she did a live reading of her emails. she even told local media that the exhibit was more approved and nothing wrong or controversial to be found on these emails. okay. let's see. with reaction, former secret service agent dan bongino. fox news correspondent geraldo rivera. if i deleted subpoenaed email, you are an attorney on top of 50 years of journals, we will celebrate your great career. if i deleted emails that were
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subpoenaed and i washed my hard drive with bleach and that i had someone just up my devices with hammers and kill the emails there and move the same cards, i'm guessing even a smart lawyer like you would say, guilty, obstruction 101. >> i don't know if i would make that judgment, but i think that for a person not known for her sense of humor, and considering this was the issue that destroyed her candidacy, i thought it was pretty cheeky, pretty clever of her to sit at her desk and read the 62,000 emails that were obtained by the federal authorities. to make the art exhibit complete, they should've had a side exhibit for the 30,000 that were bleached or destroyed or torn apart, however, they were obliterated. i think that would've made a better, a more rounded our project. >> sean: dan, you ducked the question really, because it is a slam dunk obstruction case on top of a slam-dunk espionage
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case. felonies, right? >> shawn, she wrote in the emails, she told people to -- i'm sorry i'm laughing. it's not really funny, but it's almost comical that liberals have a tough time figuring this out. she wrote in the emails, take the classified markings off. remember, this is a doozy where there was a c on it for classified? she said, scratching her head, i don't really know what that means. i thought it stover clinton or something. come on. she is not stupid, okay? she knew exactly what she was doing. >> sean: you get away with a slam-dunk case. answer dan's point. obviously she knew. >> i think that when you consider how profoundly this person, secretary of state, former senator, former first lady, the price she paid for using the private server.
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without any clear evidence -- >> sean: christian took six pictures of the submarines and spend a year in jail for the espionage act -- >> i'm serious. >> sean: do we have equal justice under the law or a dual justice system? you are dismissing it which tells me you are okay with the dual justice system. i'm not appear she has had such a hard life, i would be in jail. would be in jail and you would bring the file with the case. >> i think in terms of the clinton trajectory, and how even the president of the united states, who was impeached and now his reputation is ruined because of everything that has happened since, i think the clintons are tragic figures in many ways and american history and she of all people was ridiculed beyond compare. she was savaged by the media. she wasn't belittled.
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>> the price you would have to pay to get hillary clinton to speak or her husband at one point is about $500,000. i'm sure they are laughing all way to the bank. don't cry for hillary clinton. she will be just fine. in one of her three houses. >> sean: thank you guys. wow. lawrence jones is at the debate tonight. did you forget what you said 2 minutes ago? he also asks texas what they think of sleepy, creepy, crazy uncle joe. lawrence is next. what does it take,
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♪ >> all right, tonight, 2020 democrats are facing off in houston. we sent our lawrence jones to texas to see what they think up sleepy, creepy, crazy joe, 3-30.
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in the cast. >> who's the candidate right now because mexico and with joe biden right now. >> does the concern about the biting gas? >> i mean yeah, it's embarrassing. it's embarrassing that one of the mainstream candidates can't speaks fluently, is it in touch, the mainstream voters care abou about. >> is contrary to the ability to arguments that everybody tries to portray every day. i think it's hard when your national candidate with candidates in your face. i don't know. >> i think joe biden is the type of man that always lives where the wind blows, wherever the monies blows. >> i don't think he's the best candidate for us to have. >> why? >> this is his third try. it's the third time the charm, i don't think so.
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it >> sean hannity called biden sleepy, creepy, on some drugs. you agree? >> i mean, it's accurate. >> laura: >> sean: wow, i got at out. if we welcomed lawrence jones, by the way, lawrence, we're very proud to announce that he has gotten a promotion and he is now a hannity special 2020 on the road correspondence and investigative reporter. number one, were part of you, congratulations, welcome to the team and always remember what mama tell you. if we had a long discussion abot his mom who was a pastor and she is proud of you, as well. and should be. >> i'm so grateful for you and you have been with me day one. >> sean: don't say nice things, you're reading my show. congratulations. >> i appreciate you guys. >> sean: while, even doing great work for us, thank you. you know what's amazing, you have to get it right, sleepy,
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crazy, uncle joe. 3-0, 0-3. >> that's right. i think the majority here on the ground on the side of the democrats i believe that. it's concerning that the media and the people who are watching this insider and even joe biden's wife have tried to shut him down a lot of progressives. it's a danger that a lot of these progressive folks are going to show up for the general election if they feel like we were forced. much like with hillary clinton as well as bernie sanders. a lot of people feel like it's a shady process and they show up and they got donald trump. >> all right, lawrence, another serious, very proud of you. thank you for all the hard work, going to be on the road for us it's going to be a busy new year coming up here. you have done amazing work for us and i'm so glad you can do this. thank you. don't >> thank you, brother.
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>> sean: just getting started, let it roll. i virtually, that's all the time we have left. if thank you for being with us, laura's next, have a great nigh. ♪ >> laura: on laura ingraham, this is a special edition of "the ingraham angle" from washington. thinking the on the couple. tonight, we are going to show you just how devastating the policies of the 2020 might be and how might the abuse their newfound power if they should be elected. while dominic weil, rudy giuliani is here to go through the reading mccabe indictments and white so devastating. and steve austin, they're going to debate dems reversing the economic prosperity, all the gains we have enjoyed and were going tk