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range. the markets confused. cutting rights, but not indicating they are going to keep cutting them. here comes "the five" ." ♪ >> juan: hello everyone. i'm juan williams. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." musical medical >> juan: it's an california. the president visiting the liberal stronghold and having major disagreements with its leaders. the president setting off legal activists after raising millions in the state. outside one of the fund-raisers in beverly hills. this happens after hollywood celebrities threatened to out
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his donors. threaten to attack cities there saying "we can't let los angeles destroy themselves by allowing what's happening." there are policemen who are getting sick. they are actually sick. they are going to the hospital here and we let that happen. and earlier today, to set its own auto emission standards. let me begin with you. auto emission standards. i would think that most conservatives would say that's a states rights issues. >> emily: i think part of his arguments, which i firmly support, the ability now for the market to set prices rather than the state to do it in kind of this manufactured way. if i can speak for a second to on his disagreement "with those liberal leaders" he's exactly exactly right. there was a letter that governors send to trump on behalf of most of the mayors.
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he said it was a decade old problem. to increase the value of the vouchers. i would be saying, where is my taxpayer money that i gave you last year? where is the additional billion dollars it was just budgeted for my tax dollars? where is that going on dominic now? they are arguing with the president saying that he is not interested in fixing homelessness. even though they are spending millions of dollars. it will start an epidemic in that state. >> juan: will go to homelessness, because there is so much. trump is in california. go right ahead. >> dana: this has been going on for a long time. california, as you might remember, you are a little
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older. >> greg: am i? 53. >> dana: it's amazing. [laughter] >> greg: what surgery can do. >> dana: you're going to put up with that? [laughter] >> dana: in california has long had air quality issues. they were given permission to deal with their air quality issues, meaning, pollution. remember how brown it used to be in los angeles peered what president trump is talking about is about greenhouse gases. about climate change. climate change does not just affect california. that is like a carbon goes, one molecule goes all the way around the world in seven days there and so, -- >> greg: oh, wow. >> you like that fact question must be one that's an amazing fact. >> dana: you are not going to be able to dictate the rest of the world, while the rest of the country's emissions when it comes to safety and miles per gallon, just because of climate change. that's more of a universal thing. i think it got a little bit out of whack.
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it's just not about air quality. you can still do things in terms of pollution. other cities have done that. >> juan: jesse, what you see though is that 66% of americans oppose the president. fuel efficiency standards in the state of california, 66% of californians support their own standards. the car companies are saying, we are willing to go along with california, because we see the advent of electric cars, getting cars to move. >> jesse: the car companies want a uniform standard. he hasn't stopped it. he's just stopped it from growing to a uniform height which actually can kill people. if you make it like 58-55 miles per gallon or whatever, you are creating these very, very light, costly cars. you get into an accident with a car like that, there's more people that die. cars are going to be safer, because they are going to be stronger and they're just going to be a little more affordable
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for regular middle-class americans. i think that's fine. in terms of the homelessness situation, california wants to be a republic. they ignore federal marriage law, federal drug laws. they are always ignoring the federal law. then, all of a sudden they have this homeless crisis, and they say, hey feds, can we have some of your money to fix this? democrats control every level of government, so why aren't they doing anything about a question mark scott adams retorted a very nice article the other day and it says, why california keeps making homelessness worse. a number of reasons. they have no mandatory treatment if someone is running around like crazy, a lunatic, they can't help those people. and they screwed up their houses. other warm weather states like arizona, has less tax revenue there they don't have this problem, because they have strong oversight. the long enforcement.
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they coordinate with them. they don't let drug addict, crazy people roamed the streets and keep coming in and out of prison. so, if you look at the way they've mismanaged this, think about how they've mismanaged the high-speed rail? remember the strain that was supposed to go from san francisco to los angeles? it was supposed to take ten years. we were going to do it under three hours. now, they have a cost overrun of $44 million, 13 years in addition to the ten years it's going to take. and now, it's going to take over three hours to get to and for all. they've barely lay down any truck either. so, if we can't even do something like that, no wonder they can't fix the homeless problem. >> dana: how can you cite to scott adams for a retweet and not give credit to the guy who wrote the article? [laughter] speaker thank you. so, greg. let's start with homelessness.
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>> greg: right. >> juan: i think president trump likes this, because he likes to go after democrats who run big cities. the one right. >> juan: against democratic ron or liberal. he's not doing this in kentucky or west virginia. >> greg: he's doing a lot with the opiate thing. whether or not i actually agree with some of the things he's doing. so what. so what if this is a political stunt question works seriously. so what. if a political stunt result in saving the lives of a lot of people, getting people off the street, getting people into treatment, i say, let's have more political stunts. i'm for political stunts if they actually solve problems. but what's interesting to me is how do you get such neglect to be acceptable for so long? because you live in a huge state where the rich never have to see the poor. this is the ultimate inequality. the rich never have to go downtown.
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they don't take the subway. i don't know anybody who takes the subway and allie. being the government governor a is such a cushy job, because the rich don't have to care about the taxes, because they can afford it. they don't have to care about the homeless, because they never see them. they don't have to care about the disease that's been spread, because they will never step foot there. they don't care because they don't have any pressure. if you subtract politics and the media, who are basically driving divisive business models, you could solve these problems, and you could accept that trump would, but you can't expect trump to solve the problem, because your ego won't let it. we all know we want to get drug addicts off the street. we want to get the mentally ill into institutions, and we want to get people who are truly down on their luck to get what they need. >> juan: i think the only solution i've heard though is there is a federal office building vacant, and he's going to make that available. but that's not speaking to the issues. >> dana: i was just going to
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say, they haven't presented all that they would do. that was a possibility. i think that if it's a political stunt, i think it's politically smart for republicans to campaign in california, because remember, one of the things of the democrats constantly say is that he lost their vote. but if he could increase his margins where you do still have pockets of conservatives, it's a big state. i'm not going to say that a republican can win california in 2020, but can you increase the number of people that vote for you? yeah. i would. he's raising a ton of money for his campaign. >> emily: we did a whole homeless segment. i did this with dr. drew. it's a multifaceted issue. what's so disturbing about the governor saying that it's only about affordable housing, first of all, he is ignoring his past. when he was mayor of san francisco, cash did not work. there is still a homeless problem that is increasing by the year.
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by continuing to focus on just one aspect of it, they are ignoring everything else that this president is at least touching on. everyone should care exactly who is addressing it and who is not. they were screaming for federal dollars just two days ago, ignoring it. it isn't helping the problem. >> juan: the trump campaign, mocking joe biden in a new ad. elizabeth warren gets stumped by stephen colbert. that's all in our 2020 2020 ro, straight ahead on "the five" ." ♪ i get it all the time.
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♪ >> jesse: time now for our 2020 roundup. job item keeps stumbling on the trail. everyone is taking notice. >> i think biden looked unsteady at many points. >> excuse me. make sure you have the record player on at night when you pick up the phone. they go he's clearly not the best candidate, thinking on his feet. >> drove biden was really shaky. >> there are deaf and only moments where you listen to joe biden and you just wonder. >> all right. what are the strengths of the presidential campaign? are these well produced ads? they are not very expensive. there will be more to come. >> dana: it's interesting that it's the trump campaign and not one of biden's opponents. he was still up six points over
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other people. they've got a lot of time and a lot of money to burn. >> jesse: that is true. and the fact that they used mainstream media criticism of joe biden, i think, makes it more powerful. see one good point. i don't know if it went the same way as when people spent so much time talking about trump's personality paired people just accepted trump's personality. they might just be accepting biden as the bumbling guy and they are going to pair him with a young female vp to balance it out. i'm not so sure now. she looks to me like she's got a confidence leak. she was confident at the start. now, she is laughing at her own jokes. it looks like she's little tryia
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little too hard. i hate that. >> jesse: what you think question works the five i went to a broadway show last night that was totally focused on subliminal messaging. didn't you feel uneasy and terrified afterward? also, the use of booker. one of the most effective messages for his campaign was the bernie original identification of hillary's untrustworthiness. >> jesse: what documentary do you did you see? >> juan: i would double down on the thought that this is not coming from the democrats. this is a strike by republicans. apparently, the president thinks biden is going to be is god, because he is constantly going
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after biden. >> greg: but you understand that. they are not related to mental decline. >> juan: i wonder if it is mental decline? do you like hispanics or do you like the country? i mean, today, there is a controversy about him re-tweeting something about representative omar dancing on 9/11. it's the one that could just be something that you don't like about him. it's not mental decline. you are saying he's intentionally retreating it. >> jesse: up next, elizabeth warren sat down with stephen colbert, then got grilled on exactly how she's going to pay for medicare. watch. >> you keep being asked in the debates, how are you going to pay for? are you going to raise middle-class taxes? how are you going to pay for it? are you going to raise middle
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class taxes? >> hardworking middle-class families are going to see their costs go down. single or their taxes go up? >> here's the thing? tell my parents to go but here's the thing, i've listened to this before. i just want to make a suggestion for you that perhaps you are not mentioning. >> jesse: oh. some unsolicited advice from stephen colbert. why shouldn't she just admit she's going to raise taxes on the middle class? >> juan: i think she should. her argument is that you do away with the deductibles. you do away with some of the other costs and make a better deal. >> jesse: yeah, she's having a hard time though. >> emily: exactly. we all deserve specificity. in the beginning, it was artful. now it's agonizing to watch. she needs to admit it. >> jesse: one is she going to admit it?
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>> dana: probably not until she becomes the nominee. she is talking about, even though she's not admitting it, a middle tax hike. >> jesse: yeah, they are making a lot of news on these late-night shows, greg. >> greg: yeah, it is tax the out of people. they can't say it, because they are to lose. she said that she was going to. the left, they don't know how to do math. they don't know how they are going to pay for stuff other than punishing with taxes. >> jesse: she says the deficit under republicans should go down, not up. >> jesse: so much for home-field advantage, 2020 kamala harris, . she's behind sleepy joe. do you think this is because she is bombing or yang is rising?
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>> greg: he's open to new ideas. i don't actually see him as part of any party. you know what i mean? i think he's like a walk on. he might make the team. by comparison, he just makes everybody seem cliche. >> jesse: unundrafted free agent, right? >> dana: i think he's very clear about why he wants to run for president. she is still having a hard time. in terms of like he can defend his, for example, his biggest idea is the universal based income, whether you like it or not. he also talks about american manufacturing. >> jesse: he >> juan: he says oe things about asians. and asians get upset.
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>> jesse: are you upset on behalf of asians? >> juan: i'm just telling you, i read it. i do think that it's much more about kamala harris, not performing in the way that people expected. >> emily: yeah, this doesn't surprise me at all paired he's fresh, his consistent, he is an outlier, he is new. come alive is none of those things. his record is that he failed as a leader. >> jesse: juan not on. >> greg: i do. i really do. ♪ ent loan debt i have i'm embarrassed to even say i felt like i was going to spend my whole adult life paying this off thanks to sofi, i can see the light at the end of the tunnel as of 12pm today, i am debt free ♪ not owing anyone anything is the best feeling in the world,
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is a medical >> greg: bash the y chance i can. here goes. after the el paso shooting, 26%
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jump in hate crimes linked to trump rallies. it went everywhere. thank they also analyzed the eft that hillary clinton's campaign rally. they found that her rally led to an even greater increase in hate rallies than trump rallies. what happens when science marries the media. the political rallies are usualy held near large populations where crime is higher. there were also a few incidents of hate crimes, unlike smaller towns without rallies, who reported no such crimes. quite easily, reason shows that you could see the same with
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hillary rallies. how could the media fall for this question a while, they wanted to fall for that. they sell junk to people who need to believe the same thing they believe. maybe they should report that crime, since that business model seems closer to a felony than it does to journalism. you know, dana, i hate this magazine. while, i applied for a job there in 1989 and i didn't get it. >> dana: who was the culprit? >> greg: well, the editor was, i think victoria. but they do stories like this, almost weekly, for the past 40 years. >> dana: i bet they are going to do one on california emissions. no, i'm saying that they would explain it to people so they don't go around saying oh, wow. california is so much better than everyone else. >> greg: they are doing work on vaping. they always take the other side that people are reporting on,
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and in this case, they found no detectable impacts, jesse, from the rally. they just showed that it was all junk. >> jesse: i am so glad that you are doing this story. [laughter] one is that, professors aren't really that smart. people hold them in high esteem, and yeah, some of them are doing groundbreaking work. but a lot of them -- >> juan: i think your sister's on the phone. >> jesse: yeah, she's exceptional. in this case, they are not even that book smart. let's just check ourselves and push a lot of fake news. look how easy it is for fake news to go mainstream. they took an opportunity to write this as a legit article and then everybody reads it and it gets on cable tv, and then politicians start talking about
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it. how many science studies have they done on global warming, on guns, on russia. think about all the other fake things that have gotten mainstream that a simple fact-check prove them wrong. and then lastly, conservative media is basically saving this country. they are doing god's work. they are fact-check in "new york times," cnn. they are constantly poking holes. it's exhausting. >> juan: yet. >> jesse: 75% of conservative media are rebutting the lies by democrats. >> greg: it is not a conservative magazine. it's libertarian. they hold trump to the fire more than anybody, but they also are so good at reading stuff that the other journalists don't rea read. >> juan: i'm all for them. i like that kind of journalism. i think they debunk myths.
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it's very important. i'm listening to jesse, and i think wow. i think jesse sees it as somehow confirming his perspective. not debunking anything. it's in a debunk the idea that hate crime really has struck in the country. [laughter] between 2016-2017, 17% drop in hate crimes, 37% on a tax on jewish people. it's the one i don't think you want to chase that number. >> emily: just from a criminal justice background, it was the most disturbing thing. the fact that public perception matters. it matters for law enforcement. it matters for safety. it matters for the victims. that had a real effect. the sad part to me is that we are the only ones kind of putting forth the correction.
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>> dana: thankfully, we are the most-watched show. >> jesse: it was retweeted by presidential candidates. >> greg: i'll never forget that. but that ended. i ended up here. >> dana: you'd be reading footnotes. >> greg: ib reading footnotes. now he is charged with running a drug scam. the details next. ♪ the highest growth in manufacturing jobs in the us. it's a competition for the talent. employees need more than just a paycheck. you definitely want to take advantage of all the benefits you can get. 2/3 of employees said that the workplace is an important source for personal savings and protection solutions. the workplace should be a source of financial security.
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two men died from overdoses 18 months apart. he was not charged in those cases. explain this to us, trace what's happening. because they didn't have enough evidence back then. a violent predator who preys on men struggling with addiction and homelessness. a 37-year-old man with methamphetamines. that man survive. but if you remember back in the past few years, two other men have been found dead inside their hollywood apartment, including 26-year-old jim . at the time, there was not enough evidence to charge, but even though he wrote in his journal quoting "i've become
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prosecutors clearly believe have enough evidence to put him in prison for quite some time. >> dana: all right, trace, thank you so much. emily, you talk about the fact that sometimes people who are wealthy don't get the same kind of privilege that others would get. >> i think so. he said what was happening in 2017-2018, when two men died under his care. where were prosecutors then? they said that there wasn't enough evidence. but a couple of extra details about this particular overdose. that guy was there on september. he was injected on that night. he thought that he was overdosing, so he left, went to the hospital, got help, whatever, and then came back on the 11th, and injected him twice more. this is so nefarious.
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the cops come and they find hundreds of photographs, which we knew about. we find the diary of the guy who passed away in 2018. quick note on the penalty. he's just facing five years for these three charges. obviously, more evidence will come to light. the wealthy to poor disconnect and also the fact that these men were particularly vulnerable for a multitude of reasons. this guy was fetish and on injecting them. >> juan: i think he had a fetish for black men. others were saying, why weren't police paying more attention? he so rich. he's a democrat. don't forget, this guy was a republican for many years, and then, this is the really crazy part to me. he's active in lgbtq circles politically. i don't see why they don't come out and scream body murder about
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this. >> jesse: i don't think this is going to clear his name in any way. he has donated to hillary. so much money around california and democratic circles that maybe he did feel invincible. you know, when you keep having dead bodies show up at your house and overdosing at your house and nothing happens, maybe he thought he could get away with it. this kind of stuff continues. obviously, he had a fetish for injecting young black men with massive amounts of methamphetamine and then doing all sorts of acts on them while they were inebriated. and then, you know, i think he got away with it because of the money and because of the wealth gap, and because of maybe the racial -- >> dana: there's just not much of a penalty. five years is not that much. to the one i lesson is that if
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you want to get away with murder's, give to left-wing causes. harvey weinstein was a predator. you have jeffrey epstein, who was a writer. they all realized that if you give some money to the right people, you will get off. he had to kill three people in order to get people to finally notice. how do you stay in an apartment? you are staying in the same apartment after bodies are found there? i don't know. >> emily: these charges aren't manslaughter, these charges are administering methamphetamines and battery. bottom-line, sexual predators come in all shapes and sizes. they have to be held accountable moving forward. >> dana: all right. emily. good job.
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♪ >> emily: welcome back. time for the fastest seven.
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such an appropriate intro song. remember those videos we showed you a question mark the u.s. navy is confirming for the first time that three encounters released in 2017 are in fact genuine. but they can't explain what they actually are. the navy says they are working to fully investigate them. i have to say though, you guys, if we didn't point out that it is an unexplained aerial phenomena. >> juan: you know what greg is going to say though don't you? >> emily: what? >> greg: no, i'm going to say you actually can't identify it. here's why. either one, we are too early in the universe and they are not born yet. number two, we are the last in the universe, and they are all dead. now, they are just metal and exploding in space. >> juan: you told me that you thought there was a mosquito or a fly.
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>> dana: it was either that one or another one. stay when i can't remember. we do a lot of these shows, juan. who are you again? >> juan: i'm a big dance. >> dana: if you the investigative team for the navy you have job security, because they are never going to know. >> greg: why does he have to be green, jesse? >> emily: next topic. remember the throw back the 90s? ♪ stew on whole thing? >> emily: is coming back. mario lopez and elizabeth berkley are on board.
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juan is so stoked. >> juan: no. i just read this week that " "seinfeld." anything that will just make your brain go dead, people will watch it. >> dana: speech awaits, seinfels actually brilliant. >> juan: i agree. something that you don't really have to pay attention to. you can giggle at it. >> dana: i didn't watch the show. >> greg: it's all [bleep]. you know that no one in this entire series was actually saved by the bell? the bell never did any saving. they should reboot the brady bunch. here's a million-dollar, alien dollar idea. take them back into the original house. do it like big brother and just let them live their big brother
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brady bunch. it's already copyrighted. call me. >> emily: has everyone thought about how there is so much fresh content out there and that we have $500 million being spent? see for you, i can't think of any reboot that has been successful. rebooting is one television executives are lazy and they prey on nostalgia. it wasn't good. i watched it. that was right on my wheelhouse saturday morning. but i think there's better stuff out there. >> emily: i feel like the movie was so much better. anyway. finally, so much for brownbag lunches. parents finding a new way to show up on instagram by making elaborate meals for their kids. some making many meatballs and sushi rolls. also, by the way, i had to make my own lunch. who is making lunches for everyone else? i hate this.
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>> juan: why do you hate it? >> emily: because it's parents enabling their children and becoming competitive. what these kids are learning is that it's all about show and not learning how to manage their own time and make their own lunch. >> juan: if my mom was doing it, i'd say, "thanks mom." it's a little bit like that japanese mom who has everything in order. on the other hand, you get good lunches. >> greg: this is obviously, when you look at it, this isn't for the kid. this is for the parent to show off. look at what a great parent i am. when you know they are actually just mean, bitter, scary people. they need to do this. they are covering up for a heinous crime. >> dana: remember at lunch, when you are like have a peanut butter and jelly. i'll take your pizza. remember that? >> jesse: this should be done for husband. this is wasted on young kids. if they did this for husband's
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at the end of the tunnel as of 12pm today, i am debt free ♪ not owing anyone anything is the best feeling in the world, i cannot stop smiling about it ♪ ♪ >> time for "one more thing" right now. i'm going to start. with all the controversy about justice kavanaugh in the news, i want to suggest you take a look at a new documentary on fox nation. it's about clarence thomas. my desk was ringing, no clarence thomas, was involved with drugs, did clarence thomas do x, y, z? just every kind of scurrilous possible rumor. >> the thomas hearings still resonate to this day and remain
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a source of controversy for presidential candidate joe biden, and of course the #metoo movement. at the show is called high-tech lynching. if you can watch it on fox nation. dana buried >> i'm going to talk about fox nation as well. i did an interview with tyrus, he has a show, he likes to talk to people at all sorts of things like her childhood, et cetera. he asked me why it is a positive mind-set so important, i talked about that then he asked me this question, what is your favorite emotion, and this is what i came up with. >> i think my favorite emotion is pride in other people. being happy for somebody else is probably when i feel the happiest. especially the tv business, and politics, if you can't be happy for somebody else's success, you will feel constantly diminished. >> my colleagues are barfing. >> get real. >> i will be on tucker tonight at 8:00 p.m. >> i loved it.
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>> i think you have heart, dana. >> thank you. >> greg, you're up. >> i'm not going to be here tomorrow. i'm doing jury duty, can you believe that you might i feel bad for that suspect because you're guilty. if you've committed a crime, you're guilty, no matter what. go to fox nation, a great interview with terry sheppard my hilarious. he teaches me how to create improvised weapons out of stuff in your house and in the podcast -- my podcast on fox news radio, van patten, amazing poker player, tennis player, but a legendary actor. we talk about every tv show that you can imagine because it was the bionic boy! >> digital talk about "saved by the bell"? >> i know, i hear you. fox news radio.com. >> mr. due process. there he is. back by popular demand, jesse foster best bonsai tree news. after my bonsai tree announcement about its impending
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death, we got a lot of questions. here are some of the responses we are. jesse has an assistant that takes care of his bonsai tree? it sitting right there by his desk, water it yourself, jesse. how about this from jacqueline, repotted, change the soil, make sure you're using bonsai soil. i didn't even know that existed. good luck. and then from facebook, jesse, check for spider mites. i might have spider mites in my office, that's disgusting. from curtis on twitter, it's an outer tree, it belongs outdoors, hopefully you can save it. ps, your assistant is not overwatering it. and then tom, get the bonsai plant out of direct sunlight, are you stupid or a democrat? >> do you have any more? >> emily, please go. >> best seasonal job of all time, i'm totally applying. one viewer to watch 13 stephen king horror movies before following a document their experience, heart rate, how much they jump from everything, i'm totally applying for this. the best movies obviously are
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thinner, the shining, misery, kojo, christine, it's so exciting, i'm totally applying. don't apply because i want the job. >> wow, you like horror stuff. >> stephen king. >> never miss an episode of "the five," we want to see you. "special report" is up next, hey, bret. >> bret: hey, thanks. good evening, i'm bret baier. breaking tonight, joe biden is still the democratic front runner. he and his two closest challengers all beat president trump in head-to-head matchups in the latest bowls and supporters of both parties say they are extremely motivated for 2020. those are all takeaways from this brand-new fox news poll. biden up 11 points on bernie sanders and 13 on elizabeth warren. all three of them must kamala harris are pulling ahead of president trump in one-on-one contests, and there is plenty of enthusiasm on both sides with two-thirds of respondents saying

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