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agricultural product again. they are starting to go with the beef and all the different things, pork. very big on pork if you look an see. they are starting very heavy to buy our ag again. they should want to make a deal. the question is do we want to make a deal. >> if usmca end of nafta. >> you know how i feel about nafta. worst trade deal ever made. although i also happen to think world trade organization was not one of the greats. not one of the greats. that was the creation of china, which went like a rocket ship from the day they signed. it was terrible. but, we are going to find out. that's going to be a very interesting question. with nannies and chuck and all of these people focusing on the witch-hunt because they can't beat us at the ballot. they can't beat us at the
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ballot. and they are not going to win the presidential. we are having great polls. we have internal polls, ohio, iowa, pennsylvania is looking good. north carolina. we just won two races that a lot of people thought we were going to lose both those races. one was down 17 points three weeks before the race and he ended up winning by a substantial margin. by a substantial margin. and dan bishop. and then we had a second race as you know and he was up one or two points and he ended up winning by, what was it 25 points or some incredible -- i will ask you folks i don't want to be inaccurate. otherwise i have breaking news. trump exaggerated. he was leading by two or three. but he won by in the 20's. so we are looking great in north carolina and looking great in florida. and you had one or two congress men, democrats say
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listen, we can't beat him at the election so let's impeach him. right? didn't you hear al green, that's a beauty. he is a real beauty, that guy. they distinctively, it was all over the place. i don't know, they are trying to lose that tape, i guess. but he said we can't -- he said we can't beat him. let's impeach him. that's pretty dangerous stuff. steve, go ahead. >> thank you, sir. you had expressed some concerns about the president releasing the transcripts. why didn't go ahead and do it? >> because i was getting such fake news and i thought it would be better. now they are asking for the first phone conversation and i will release that, too. if it's important to you. i had a conversation on a previous election plateau that he had hit the current president hit a couple of different plateaus. i spoke to him previous to
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the call that we released, which was a very innocent call, very, very innocent. very nice call. and as he said, i wasn't pushed. i wasn't pushed, meaning pressured. he wasn't pressured at all. but, i don't like the concept of releasing calls because when a president or a prime minister or a king or a queen calls the united states, you don't like to say gee, we are going to release your call to the fake news media and they are going to make you look like a fool. what happens is it's hard to do business that way. you want people to feel comfortable. so i hated it but you folks were saying such lies, such horrible things about a call that was so innocent and so nice. in fact, lindsey graham said to me when he read it, very interesting. he is a good man. he is a smart man. he said i can't believe it. i never knew you could be this really nice to a person. he said i cannot believe it. you were so nice. i didn't think you had that in you to be so nice.
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i was nice. i'm nice to a lot of people. people don't understand that. it was such a nice call. he said there is nothing here. and all fair people say the same thing. but i don't like the president, steve, i don't like it where you are dealing with heads of state and to think that their call is going to be released. but i felt that -- and, you know, we spoke to ukraine about it. mike actually called up his counterpart and we spoke to ukraine about it because we want -- because it could have been. if they didn't want us to do it we would not have done it. but he actually said that was a very innocent call. you can release it all you want. >> and are you now braced for a long impeachment saga? >> well, i thought we won. i thought it was dead. the mueller report. no obstruction. no collusion. you looking at all of the things that happened. corey lewandowski was fantastic the other day as a person that they have been
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tormenting. you look at all the people that they have tormented. all the legal fees. people came here with bright eyes. they wanted to make life so great for other people. and they left where they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees that they didn't have. and it's a sad thing. what these democrats have done to ruin lives is so sad. i have seen people with only good intention. they came to washington because they wanted to make the united states and the world a better place. and they went home. they were dark. they got hit by mueller subpoenas. i think there were 2500 subpoenas or some ridiculous number. 500 people were interviewed yet they don't interview joe biden and his son? if you are a democrat, you have automatic protection. that's years and years of people putting in certain people into positions.
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when you look at all of the trauma that these fakeers have caused and the press, look, the press is -- much of the press is not only fake, it's corrupt. these stories they write are corrupt. they are so wrong. and they know that it used to be -- i used to get great press until i ran for politics. i used to be the king of getting good press. i was very good at it. and i got good. they covered me well for what otherwise i probably wouldn't be here. once i ran i said boy, this is incredible. but, if you see the way they treat my family used to be treated great. my family works so hard. the people that work with me, these people all of these people, they work so hard. they have done such -- look, we have the greatest economy we have ever had. we have a military, $2.5 trillion we have rebuilt our military. you don't hear the vets complaining. we got choice approved. it couldn't be approved. when you see what happened with the viciousness and when you see little adam schiff go out and lie and
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lie and stand at the mic, smart guy, by the way. stand at the mic and act like he is so serious and then he goes into a room with nadler and they must laugh their asses off. they must laugh their asses off. it's so bad for our country. people have said rush limbaugh, great man, sean hannity said it. a lot of people have said it. mark levin, they said they don't know if one man anywhere in the world with all the men they know or woman that could handle what i have had to handle. and i think that's true. but i handle it. to me, it's like putting on a suit. all right. how about one more question. question on the economy. a question on the economy. go ahead. go ahead. >> hi, mr. president. the from venezuela. >> wow. >> yeah. >> how are you doing over there? >> pretty bad. >> i would say pretty bad,
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sad. >> but we are fighting. >> and it was one of the great countries. one of the richest countries not so long ago. 15 years ago. it's incredible. >> but we are going to make it? >> i agree with that. and we are helping you. >> yes. >> we are helping you. >> yeah. i know. and thank you. >> go ahead. >> i have two questions. russia and north korea. two of the most antagonist nations in the u.s. interest. what can be done to contain this -- what are they looking for in that country and because of the special envoy, said that the russians are willing to negotiate. this is one question and the other, mr. president, you say socialists is one of the biggest challenges. you say yesterday in the united nations. but the region is far from
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safe. a dictator, full in power in brazil are under threat about it socialist and populist. are you worried did b. it. >> i will say that socialism will never happen in the united states. it can't happen in the united states. and venezuela, unfortunately, i have to use your country of the example of what socialism can do, how it can tear the fabric of our country apart. because i know a lot about venezuela. i have had many, many friends of mine come from venezuela. they come from miami. i won't mention the name because they will say i'm thinking about my business and i am not. they are fantastic people and they like your president they voted overwhelmingly. they like what i'm doing for venezuela. we have venezuela very much in our hearts and very much in our sights and we are watching it very carefully. and, you know what i would say, we are giving millions and millions of dollars in
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aid, not that we want to from the maduro standpoint, but we have to because of the humanitarian -- people are dying. they have no food. they have no water. they have no nothing. they have no medicine. their hospitals are closed or don't even have electricity. it's so sad to see. let me just say that we have it under control. we are watching it very carefully. and we are going to be very, very -- we are watching it very carefully, including other countries that may or may not be playing games. we are watching it very carefully. >> do you know if russia is talking with u.s.a. or guaido, what can you tell us about it. >> just put this in the back of your mind. it's all going to be fine. we know everything that you said. it's all going to be fine. we very much are involved. we very much know what's going on and we are very much involved. okay? thank you all very much. thank you. thank you very much. [shouting]
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and they impeached like rabbits. might have been a good idea to have waited until the transcript came out. because, when you look at it. >> jesse: they pre-impeached. >> greg: a phone call in front of witnesses where one guy is asking another guy about something that happened in the past that you can look into, which i think is in his job description to ask about corruption. no wonder the transcript suddenly isn't enough. oh my god, we need something else. because they screwed up. almost went in the wrong direction with that verb. anyway, i love how the dems said that we didn't arrive at this conclusion lightly. no. you arrived at this conclusion three years ago. you have been pounding it into the ground ever since. the media cites a growing clamor, right? a growing clamor for impeachment. they are the growing clamor for the last three years. acted like a model of restraint that this was the last straw. no, every day for the past three years has been the
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last straw. so what i say is the country right now is a victim of impeachment harassment. the media expects you the viewer to have a heart attack every frickin' week. every time they come up with a new bombshell. they want you to riffe and care. our viewers and people at home the voters know better than this. there is a disconnect between the way america is and the way the media portrays it. right? americans are starting jobs. there is low unemployment. they have swollen iras and spending their money. the dems, they can't profit off that the media can't profit off that so they have to paint an apocalypse. the viewers should be outraged that they are putting through an unhealthy emotional roller coaster every single day. but i know that they get it. they have always been way ahead of us on this stuff. they see it for what it is. it's not left vs. right. it's not conservative vs. liberal. it's the media vs. you. and they hate you. >> dana: all right.
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>> greg: sorry. i had to get it out. i was home yesterday, okay? >> dana: president all day, john, you will wrap this up for us, thank you. john? >> hey, dana, i'm sorry. it's a little noisy here. can you repeat the question? >> dana: i was suggesting you could wrap up the press conference for us and maybe the week it's been quite a one it's only wednesday. >> you can see that it was airs of agree advances here by the president. almost felt like festivus for a little while the president saying he had all these accomplishments this week at the united nations yet they went unreported because everybody was focused on this idea of impeachment which we should point out is not an insignificant things. the fact that this is only the fourth time that a president in the history of the united states has faced impeachment proceedings. definitely carries with it a measure of significance. the president talking about his phone conversation with
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vlad very le very len zeensky. saying can't believe the democrats are going down the road of impeachment over what was discussed in that phone call. both the president and president zelennsky said no pressure on the call. the president did have a couple of asks, one, which he characterized as being a favor. he asked zelenysky to look into crowd strike and alleged interference in the 2016 election on behalf of hillary clinton by elements in the ukraine. and then the other one, separate to that, which wasn't characterized as as a favor to look into joe biden. the president also suggesting that if democrats want a transcript of the first conversation that he had with zelensky after he won the presidency they are welcomed to that as well. the president talked about transparency in terms of this whistleblower complaint. i'm told the complaint is on capitol hill and the
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question is whether or not the president will actually seek to have that declassified and made public. that may be part of that call that he made with leader mccarthy about transparency. so we will see, dana. still a lot to come in this. >> dana: all right, general. it's been wonderful to have all of new new york, i mean that. >> janice: it's good to be here. >> dana: thank you, john. jesse, you have some thoughts? >> jesse: i just can't believe we have a cheers and seinfeld reference right at the top of the show. unbelievable show already. i think this bottom line of the democrats are trying to impeach trump for crimes that they themselves committed. these are nasty, ruthless, destructive, hypocritical people. and it's going to take a lot of energy to fight back their deceit and lies you know what? dana, i'm up to the challenge. they are being lied. to say this is what the bottom line is donald trump has taken a sledge hammer to the ruling class and the ruling class is fighting back hard as hell and they are not going to stop.
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he beat back spy gate the russia hoax, he exposed hillary and awful her corruption. now is he beginning to expose the biden family corruption in ukraine and in china. and they want to impeach him for exexposing biden's corruption. this is what is going on. the left says they don't believe what biden did abusing his power, abusing taxpayer money and his son enriching himself is a crime. they think it's a crime for trump to say hey, can you look into that? because donald trump is the chief executive of the executive branch of this country. and he is in charge of executing the laws. so some american citizen is committing potential crimes in the united states, or overseas, he has the right to say hey, guys, can you look into it? but the democrats are saying no, no, no, no, no. joe biden and his family, they are above the law. joe biden can't be looked into by this current administration and the ukraine administration. joe biden gets basically a
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free pass. can he run around and commit all sorts of crimes because he is above the law. and to say that this administration can't enlist an ally to look into potential corruption of a political opponent? isn't that exactly what the last administration did listed multiple allies including ukraine no basis, no evidence. yet this time the evidence is right in front of us. we have joe biden on tape and we have his son's receipts. so, at this point, the democrats are accusing trump of crimes they committed and this is in order to get out in front of the durham investigation and the bill barr investigation. it's an admission they can't beat trump at the ballot box. this is nancy pelosi trying to ride this crazy impeachment train the best they can. you know what's going to happen? sadly? coincidentally or not? joe biden might take the fall for all of this. >> dana: i will have to stop you there for one second. come right back for more
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commentary. go to mike emanuel because the whistleblower complaint is now up on the hill. mike emanuel, have you seen it? have you been able to break it down for us? >> no, not at all, dana. it is here on capitol hill, but it is inside what is known as a scif here on capitol hill. a sensitive compartmented information facility. so you have members of the house and senate intelligence committees going in to get a look at this document, the whistleblower complaint, and get, you know, break it down a bit for themselves. but when they have been coming out they have said absolutely, positively nothing, which is pretty common when you have the committee members going into a facility they don't want to be caught talking on camera on the way out. bottom line it has been pretty stunning how quickly things have moved here. yesterday morning you had the speaker saying that something had changed, that it was a time for a formal impeachment inquiry. the president then said fine, you want the transcript of this phone
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call with the ukraine president? i will release it. then senate democratic leader chuck schumer said i want more than that i want the whistleblower complaint. so 10:00 this morning eastern time, you had the president hand over the full transcript of that conversation and at 4:00 this afternoon now the whistleblower complaint is up here on the hill. dana? >> dana: all right, thank you, mike. we appreciate it. we will be talking to you tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. with the director of national intelligence the acting director joseph maguire. juan, do you think that the democrats should have waited until they had seen the transcript and whistleblower before they moved forward as nancy pelosi did last night? >> no. i think that based on what we know and what has been proven, in terms of the release, it's thought a transcript per se. it's more a memo written of people who understood or heard the conversation. i think that they were exactly right. you know, today apparently the white house talking points got leaked to some
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democrats. >> dana: they weren't leaked. they were accidentally emailed to them. that's not leaked. >> juan: they didn't intend it so i guess it was leaked. i think, you know, just listening here boy those talking points they have made the rounds. because the reality is. >> greg: what does that mean? whoa, whoa, whoa. what does that mean are you saying i got talking points? you got to answer to the accusation. >> jesse: i was told what to say? >> juan: all around. >> greg: you had a whole day to talk. let's get katie in and see if she has something to say that is original. >> juan: here we go. asking a foreign government. >> greg: unbelievable. >> juan: investigate a political arrival is illegal. >> greg: did you get that from media matters, juan? >> juan: the president should protect and defend the constitution of the united states. and by the way, this isn't just me. >> jesse: supposed to look away for potential corruption? >> greg: you can't because you accuse us of reading
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talking points. >> juan: judge napolitano who is our senior news analyst what does he say? you don't need a quid pro quo, you just need to ask a foreign government. >> jesse: judge napolitano. >> juan: it's not only that you stop and think about. mitt romney said extremely -- comes from a republican. >> greg: of course. >> juan: you get a situation where the president of the united states is saying i want dirt on my political opponent. and then i hear oh, it's because we can't beat you at the ballot box. it's because he is worried about joe biden. this, to me, is outrage and unbelievable that people would try to throw -- >> jesse: lost the last election. >> greg: juan, you got two days to talk about it. katie hasn't been able to say word. >> juan: good filibuster. >> greg: you were on this show yesterday we weren't, yuan. you had your shot.
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>> katie: talk about two things you brought up. you said it is illegal for a president to ask for dirt. but from a foreign agency or a foreign government. a democrat sent a letter to ukraine in 2018 asking for them to investigate president trump by cooperating with a special counsel investigation. so, if trump is guilty of it, so are the democrats. you also. >> juan: he was asking. >> greg: let her talk, juan. >> jesse: yuan, did you read the transcript or not? it doesn't seem like you did. >> katie: i'm good. >> jesse: go ahead, katie. >> katie: you implied that the transcript was not properly transcribed. the people who wrote the notes were cia agents who were brought in from a cia to do this. we know that people who are -- have done these things before have said on record today that this is the closest you are going to get to a transcribed. >> dana: they are not taped. >> dana: so onto the political aspect of this. you know, the word favor has been tossed around a lot in
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terms of the transcript. people accusing the transcript of giving a favor and asking for a favor of joe biden being investigated. he actually uses the term favor when he is asking about -- ukraine interference in the 2016 election. let's not forget it was the dnc who went and met with ukraine officials in washington, d.c. to ask for dirt on president trump on behalf of hillary clinton. that's the first thing. the second thing is the president this week has been able to set up a huge contrast to what it comes to what democrats are focused on and what he is doing. he has been meeting with a number of leaders. you had secretary pompeo stand up and say we have convinced a number of allies that the iran deal is no longer the way forward with iran. so while he is doing this on the world stage and having serious conversations about the security of the country, the democrats are focused on impeachment based on the transcript that they didn't even see until today and continuing on with the narrative while the president is actually focused on serious issues that effect the country and
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voters are going to be the ones who decide if that's going to happen. >> dana: last month -- i can't remember which poll it was. pretty much consistent across the board that 60% or more of people say they are not for impeachment, that they don't have the appetite for it because they would like to see other things get done. and i do wonder, greg, about the democrats, how do you make a message to the people that it was worth it to put you in power to deal with healthcare, and get deals and get things done with the president if, in fact, you don't have anything to show for it. >> greg: they are doubling down on a pair of twos, right? this is cognitive distance. what happens when the leader's predictions don't work and don't pan out on doomsday. the followers just double down. so what you are seeing is seeing the democrats continually saying that there is going to be an impeachment. there is going to be impeachment. why is that? because they cannot lose their psychological investment in this battle. yet, meanwhile, they are totally ignorant to the rest of the country. that do not want impeachment, which and the
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country that is booming. people are starting businesses. you know, like i said, they are spending their iras. people are actually getting along unlike five years ago. relatives are getting let out of jail thanks to trump. people are having -- it's great -- it's easy to get along when you have jobs. this is what the democrats want you to ignore. what the media wants you to ignore. >> katie: i think on the biden angle, too, why is joe biden even in this conversation? the "new york times" published that story about him bragging about getting the prosecutor fired in may of 2019. trump talked to the president of ukraine in july, short couple of months later. that's why he says there is stuff going on in ukraine about the prosecutor that's possibly why he brought it up in the conversation. the question of biden is, was he selling influence through his son to get access to the white house and washington? it's the same reason why hillary clinton had a lot of trouble with the clinton foundation and why the clinton foundation completely dried up as soon as she wasn't elected
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president. she got a lot of checks that came through when she was the secretary of defense. the same questions that apply to her selling of influence in that situation. also apply joe biden and the vice presidency which is why you are seeing outlets like the rnc calling for him to release the transcripts. >> juan: first of all, everybody has looked into this joe biden thing and nobody has. >> jesse: no, no, juan. >> juan: seriously. nobody found anything and yet all of these conspiracies. >> jesse: what do you mean no one found anything? what does that mean? >> juan: let me finish. to me this is like an intentional act of distortion in order to defend the president. it's not about joe biden. >> jesse: it's not? >> juan: if anything had been found that was illegal here's what it is. no, this is all speculation. what this is about is a phone call that the president of the united states placed in which he says, you know, we have been very good to you over in the ukraine, can you do me a favor? can you interfere in american politics?
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>> greg: he said that? i didn't see that in the transcript. >> jesse: say donald trump flies over to the ukraine because he is the point man on the diplomacy over there and at the same time trump jr. goes over there and gets some nice job bringing home 50 k a week or whatever it is. at the same time wheeling and dealing on energy deals. you think that's okay? let's just the difference between the trump jr. situation and hunter biden? okay? >> juan: oh my gosh. >> jesse: you brought up the fact that hunter had a crack pipe found on him the other day. leave that out of that for argument sake. when donald trump became president, his sons stopped doing international business. when joe biden became vice president, his family started doing international business. >> katie: exactly. >> jesse: when he goes over there, joe biden and he starts pushing new natural gas deals in ukraine, like a month later his son gets this katyushay gi cushy gigginge millions of dollars and joe biden uses taxpayer money to
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threaten them to fire the prosecutor. or when he flies them over on air force 2 to beijing and brings home 1.5 billion with a b from the chinese state national bank and no one asks any questions? all the president is doing is saying hey, maybe there is some corruption out there. we need to look into if we are going to give you guys an additional $400 million to defend yourselves against the russians, which by the way, obama and biden didn't give any money. they gave meals and no money. >> juan: jesse you are struggling so hard to get news of the day. >> jesse: i feel pretty good, man. >> juan: you are gushing. the problem is we have this phone call and it's not a transcript. it's a memo, the best apparently. here's the thing. the president put it out thinking well, i'm going to let him have it. i don't think it's that bad. it came out today it made it worse for the president because people are saying. >> jesse: according to who, juan? >> juan: you are looking
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into hillary clinton and joe biden? we thought you were the president. gut only trump can be investigated. >> juan: no, no. >> jesse: campaign. [talking at the same time] >> juan: you are saying wiretapped trump tower? get out of here. >> jesse: what countries did the obama administration use to help investigate the trump campaign? i have the british and i have the italians and australians and the ukrainians. donald trump can ask an ally hey can you look into corruption where there is actual evidence? >> katie: can i ask a question? >> juan: sure. >> katie: when the ukraine president comes out and says happy on television and not on a phone call and said there was no pressure is he lying? >> juan: i don't think he is lying. >> katie: what's the problem? >> juan: is he compelled to keep the united states as an ally in the readout, katie. the readout from that trump phone call, here is what kiev wrote. made it clear that we have to proceed on this
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investigation in order to have a good relationship with the united states. >> katie: that's not what he said. >> juan: that's what kiev said in the readout on that phone call. >> dana: got to take a quick break not a break at all. there is no commercial but a break from this to greg. he has a monologue for you. >> greg: yea, thank you. you will love. this so right now the media's face is pressed up against the window of the candy store and they are salivating. the glass fog. hoping against hope, staring into a field of dreams believing if they build an impeachment a crime will surely come. so let's step back and see this for what it is. another example of the media and the dims fashioning the worst of things out of the best of times. all to avenge an emotional loss. you want some examples? well, as america leads the way in climate with cleaner energy, the left tells their kids we have a decade to live. as race relations improve from the mass demonstrations of five years ago the media sees racism in every nook. as men and women reach
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equality in all facets, the media questions whether gender is just a fantasy. as women and minorities gain more employment than ever, the guy running the show is called a bigoted sexist. a guy called trump, a guy who wakes up every morning in that candy store called america wondering what we can get out of the world and not the reverse. for him it's not about money, influence, or sex. god knows he has had enough of that for five life times. it's about the job and you are his boss. see, he is a guy who is stingy with both blood and treasure. which is why he is trying to replace real wars with trade wars. sending an accountant, instead of tanks. and, yet, even as america is governed by an orange gandhi, the media and dems see him as hitler. you see the trend? as the world gets better, which the metrics show, the media panics. how can they report good times if trump is involved in all of them. so every day is doomsday since 2016, which is why now
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they are outside that candy store waiting for that sweet impeachment, desperate for the taste of revenge, the sweetist bon bon of all. > dana, while donald trump was talking other networks with cutting in and out to fact check him. isn't that nice? would they ever do that to obama? >> dana: no. and hopefully we wouldn't either. you want to take a president's speech? take it. everybody to each their own. everyone get your coverage and we will get our viewers. i do think when it comes to the media, for example, earlier there was a story that broke around 4:00, "the washington post" said that the acting director of national intelligence was threatening to quit because he was not going to be allowed to speak freely. and the press secretary at the white house said -- "the washington post" gave literally six minutes to respond. that's her words. i don't know exactly what happened. that's what she said. and i know you got six minutes. i have got to call the dni
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and check with the national security advisor and call the cia. you can't do all of that in six minutes. they went to the story. goes out there and all of a sudden you have the acting director of national intelligence say that's not true. i never threatened to quit. i was never going to quit. he will be on the hill tomorrow. i do think when it comes do you feel this the breathlessness of the reporting is always good to remind yourselves that waiting for more information is always a better answer. and i do think that that is true for the democrats as well. i find it really curious that nancy pelosi, who had been so cautious and put -- and kind of like offputting to her -- the rest of her caucus saying we are not going to go for impeachment right now. bad politics, we don't have anything. there is no smoking gun, we don't have the evidence and do this before they get the transcript seems like they went out on a limb and sawed it off. >> greg: she was hesitantly -- she didn't want to kick that soccer ball into the net. oh, they are screaming at me. the base is screaming at me. katie, what happens if they actually undo an election? have they thought it through
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how half of america might respond if they try to impeach a president based on a phone call what would happen? >> katie: mike pence will be president and that will be much, much worse. so maybe they should think about this twice. it's amazing how they continue to talk about the need to protect democracy and the voting and all the stuff but, yet, they are now going down this road of reversing an election that they don't like. and they have done this through a number of steps. through the russia investigation, this phone call now. any kind of high crime and misdemeanor. any of them can cite properly and the question is the media ever going to learn anything. are they activists or are they reporters? joe, everything that happened breathe life into the report. none of that happened. and here we are now with the quid pro quo which was reported yesterday multiple times it.
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doesn't mention. and yet there is no correction from quite frankly anybody about the fact that they got this wrong. i wonder if they sit around in news rooms and never have a conversation about how they can do things better because there is a lot. >> greg: jesse, this is another example of the accelerating mob saw with covington and kavanaugh red pill another 3 or 4 million americans. >> jesse: i don't trust media when they: -- got out way over ski and big nothing burger. am i allowed to say nothing burger? >> greg: nothing burrito. >> jesse: that fits fine. juan said it is a crime. what is the crime? >> juan: american. >> jesse: is that -- statutory crime, number one. number two. isn't that exactly what the obama administration did.
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>> juan: excuse me, the united states intelligence community in the process of gathering information said they had conversations with people in britain. that's not the obama administration. >> jesse: okay so the obama fbi doj and cia aren't the obama administration? juan, go back to school. all right, here, also, how is this they say this is not even a campaign violation. that's the level of the crime. it's not even a campaign violation. because there is nothing, a thing of value attached to it. there is no -- okay, okay. hillary clinton, the 9 million she sent overseas to get russian dirt on trump that they used to spy on them? that's not a thing of value? but this is? nominee and this is his is on the non-democrat
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nominee's son getting looked into as a thing of value? >> dana: apparently the obama team at the time during the presidency was uncomfortable with the judgment that hunter biden was exercising. >> jesse: good for them. >> dana: but didn't do anything about it, right? that we know of. maybe they staved off other things. >> jesse: how do you think they would allow hunter biden to freelance in ukraine while his dad is running point? how would they ever allow that? >> dana: and the china example could be worse. and that story was going to come out. both of these things that nancy pelosi was hoping were not going to come to fruition or at least not right away impeachment and the hunter biden and the questions into the biden whole extravaganza the trip to china on air force 2. those are two things that she was trying to stave off. now they are front and center. and one thing about the election. we are in the middle of a democratic primary. lots of democrats running for office. we still have 20. biden has been able to defy gravity in all of these
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polls for a long time with one key issue, electability. >> greg: yeah. >> dana: now his polling numbers have started to come down. elizabeth warren's have been on the rise. there is still a lot of time. there could be changes. if you are a democrat today and only thing you want is to beat president trump in 2020, and your key issue is electability, does any of this make you feel like joe biden could be more vulnerable in 2020? and i think the answer is yes. you will see. >> juan: i don't think so and let me say why i don't think so. first of all what you got and you were suggesting earlier oh, you know, nancy pelosi is out on a limb. it's been sawed off. in fact, more people after the release of today's memo are saying, you know what? we are behind impeachment. and i think you are going to see the shift in the polls as well. and when it comes. >> greg: no you won't not in the polls. >> juan: joe biden and bo biden this is still. >> dana: hunter biden. >> juan: peter schweizer is the one who started this with his book back in 2018 and you see a lot of this
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echo. >> greg: scott king is conservative? >> juan: people have searched through this and -- [talking at the same time] >> jesse: juan, if don jr. made a deal with china wouldn't you think that was wrong? >> juan: think about this is you say this is the media. is the media not supposed to report when the president of the united states engages. >> greg: they are controlling this. they are controlling this. >> juan: they are not supposed to be, oh the media's fault. >> greg: they are not reporting they are controlling and manipulating. guts gut i have a great montage we are going to compare two different kind of examples of the media. there was this russian vs. now i think that's what we're doing or not? >> can i certainly say with confidence that there is significant evidence of collusion. >> it's a crime. it's on the statute books. and crimes are typically impeachable offenses. >> the beginning of the end
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of the trump presidency. >> this is about a commander-in-chief who actually is medalin medal meddlg with america's national security. >> this is worse than watergate. >> i keep getting asked are there echos of watergate in this and there are. >> greg: cnn different playbook different day talking about trump talking about themselves. >> katie: look at the credibility of who is making these arguments. they are going to say president trump has been right about this and people like adam schiff and people in the media have been wrong. they have never produced the evidence that they have promised. i have got to say democrats better be careful what they wish for. because every time they call for one of these investigations people start looking around about what's going on and it always comes back to prove that they have been accusing president trump and republicans of exactly what they have been doing. and so there are serious questions about whether, again, joe biden was selling influence through his son
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hunter biden and whether these deals being made as a result of his. >> dana: i haven't heard that part. where is that coming from? i definitely hear hunter biden questionable judgment thing or joe biden benefited financially. >> katie: hunter biden benefited financially because of his father. getting influence. >> juan: imagine if, because you guys keep bringing up obama. imagine if the obama asked a foreign leader say hey, can my lawyer, rudy giuliani, or can my attorney general bill barr get involved with your investigation? whatever? >> jesse: juan, juan. >> juan: he is the president of the united states. if he thinks someone has committed a crime, he can go to the justice department and say, hey, we need to investigate. you don't go overseas and say hey will you get involved. >> jesse: that's what the russia investigation was counterintelligence investigation under the auspices of the commander-in-chief. he set that up. they did it for the president. >> juan: they did it for
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obama? >> jesse: counterintelligence investigation. it was run through the fbi and doj for barack obama it was not criminal. >> juan: in other words, obama is the one the russians were giving -- had some interference in the election to benefit donald trump? that was barack obama? >> jesse: they just spied on him and campaign and illegally investigated him. >> juan: this kind of balderdash. >> jesse: you are saying investigated fully and nobody ever found anything. >> juan: nobody. >> jesse: goes to the trump tower hotel and orders a cocktail and liberals fire off five lawsuits and they want to investigate and impeach over the emollients clause. joe biden's son take as billion from china and it's not been investigated fully? it hasn't. it hasn't. >> juan: jim comey who is a republican, robert mueller is a republican. all these guys investigate. it's terrible. >> greg: i love your republicans, juan. >> juan: what happened today we now know no sawing off of
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a branch. we now know that this president tried to get a foreign power involved in a american politics. >> jesse: barack obama admitted. >> greg: do you know what's great? everybody in america is going to read the transcript and then everybody is going to go what a bunch of garbage. the media lied to us again. >> jesse: nancy pelosi and others have spent days telling you president trump violated his constitutional oath and broke the law. but then white house released the transcript of the call with ukraine's president. turns out though there is no smoking gun or a quid pro quo like pelosi and her pals promised. now, despite all new information, democrats are refusing to back away from their talking points. >> we have the president of the united states engaged in a shakedown of a foreign president. this is how a mafia boss talks. that is textbook abuse of power and the transcript has become exhibit a. >> we don't do this in america. it's so gross.
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it's so corrupt. >> if anything is a high crime and misdemeanor, it is what the president did. >> he will be held accountable. no one is above the law. >> jesse: and then there is this. new poll shows only about 1/3 of americans support impeachment. and not only that dana, the president's poll numbers better than they have ever been real clear politics has it at 45%. highest since his election and higher now than barack obama's were at this same time in his presidency. >> dana: one of the things tipping point for nancy pelosi apparently seven members of congress that are democrats that won in 2018. they are freshman that all served in the military or have some sort of intel background. and they had been very resistant about impeachment for a long time saying that, look, and also trump won their districts in 2016. that means 2020 those districts are definitely ripe for republicans to win back. so they had been saying nope, nancy pelosi, we are not for impeachment. don't listen to aoc, et
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cetera. then because of the reporting about this issue, before seeing the transcript. before seeing the whistleblower report. those seven got together and wrote this op-ed and said, actually now we all believe that we should move forward with an impeachment inquiry. and that is when nancy pelosi was like well, what am i going to do now? she in some ways as the speaker of the house instead of saying we're going to stave this off, she had to be for what is going to happen in her caucus. i don't know if it's showing up in the polls, but in that 37%, those are people that are really active in calling their members of congress. i heard a few of them today say you wouldn't believe my phone is ringing off the hook. we have to hold president trump accountable. but i would bet that there is just about the same, maybe 40% of people on the right saying don't you dare do this. and then that margin that's left, they don't want to talk about this. there is not an appetite to do. this this will take several months. this is not something like the trudeau scandal that happened on friday and done
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on monday and nobody ever talked about it again. this is something now because they are ought bought in and anything that happens they will try to shoe horn evidence into this so that they can make their case over and over again. and this will probably go through the holidays unless somebody puts a stop to it. >> jesse: i believe we have some fresh sound from the president on nancy pelosi if we can listen to that. >> she last lost her wa has losy and been taken over by the radical left. she really has lost her way. i spoke to her about guns yesterday. the whole party is taken over by the left. thank you very much. my poll numbers have gone up. but i don't want it to go up for this reason. and nancy pelosi, as far as i'm concerned, unfortunately she is no longer the speaker of the house. >> jesse: that was from earlier today. greg, it shows he usually butters her up a little bit when he talks publicly about her. that's over with. >> greg: i think he realizes that she has lost control. and you have to wonder, so the media -- you got the media and the democrats are pushing for impeachment knowing 99% is not going to
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happen with a republican-led senate. so why are they doing this? to influence an election. to influence an election i don't know but but using millions and millions of dollars and man hours of our government to influence an election is worse than a casual conversation with a newly elected president in which that guy initiates the conversation about giuliani and talks about buying planes. it was a typical -- somehow that's worse? no, this is worse. how is that not a -- >> dana: one other thing about this it was the first time we have actually have a situation impeachment inquiry happening before an election. for nixon and for clinton, that was all after they had already been reelected and i don't know, did you want to say this karl rove thought from earlier how it was hurting the democrats. >> jesse: i was going to ask katie quickly about the transparency issue with the president. now he has come out and released this transcript. he is saying he is going to release more transcript. now he is challenging the
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biden family to release some of their financial records and he is going to expose also some letters and some trips made by senate democrats to ukraine urging the ukrainians to be complicit in the investigation of their political opponent, donald trump. what do you think about that? >> katie: there have also been calls for the vice president joe biden to release his transcripts of his conversations with ukrainian and chinese leaders while he was in the white house to kind of clear the air about their there being no corruption and no paying for influence. but my question is how are democrats going to play this? nancy pelosi yesterday was saying she wants all these committees to come up with more information, more fact-finding and bring her conclusion on impeachment. so after the russia investigation ended, they essentially re-did the russia investigation calling up the same people subpoenaed by robert mueller. who are they going to call up now if they are going for a different direction on this investigation because if they are going to hold hearings, they will have to have witnesses, the whistleblower said they want to come up. you know, lindsey graham saying sure we will have hearing on it.
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who are democrats actually going to talk to when it comes to issuing those subpoenas and getting valid information and fact-finding when we have the transcript. >> jesse: that's a really good point. i hadn't thought of that. i want to ask juan now, karl rove thinks that joe biden might suffer some blow back from all of this. let's listen and you can react to that. >> the democrats have put themselves in a place. think about this. this is going to hurt joe biden badly because we are going to be talking about ukraine and the idea of hunter biden being hired by a moscow leaning oligarch in order to demonstrate that he had juice with the united states. >> jesse: going back to the point before it. liz warren at her primary, i think thing for running one of them at least is corruption and rooting out corruption in the trump administration. now you have a big corruption cloud floating over joe. does that get. >> juan: there is not. >> jesse: you don't? haven't you been following the story? >> juan: the big story what aboutism and an attempt to
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drag joe biden or hunter biden or somebody, get somebody's body in here so we can distract you from what's going on with the news and president trump. by the way, greg, let me tell you something. the house can impeach the president if the senate would have to convict. so he can be impeached. i think the president did not want. this i don't think he wanted. >> jesse: i don't think he wants it either. >> juan: i think he made a tremendous mistake today by releasing this memo because everybody says. >> jesse: so you are against transparency. >> katie: oh my gosh. you were calling it a cover-up. >> juan: what happened in the mueller case and other case. >> jesse: you wanted the president to cover this up? >> juan: can i finish a thought? it goes back to something dana was talking about earlier. she suggested oh nancy pelosi should have waited, should have done this. you have the moderates. this is not the left wing of the democratic party. >> greg: that's the left wing. >> juan: people been in the intelligence community and military reluctant.
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often time people who come from districts that president trump carried in 2016 who finally said this is too much. the second point to be made here is those folks then said you know what? this memo -- whatever that we saw today is perfect evidence as you heard we played some of these soundbites of corruption of the united states constitution. >> dana: can i mention something about the timing of it though? >> juan: yes. >> dana: okay. you have the news comes out that this is all happening, we know that there could be a possibility of releasing the transcript. i was against that because i think the confidentiality makes a lot of sense. the president made a decision he releases it and it's out there and it is what is. you had these seven members release this op-ed on a monday. they get that to nancy pelosi. in the afternoon, she finds out from the white house that they are going to release the transcripts. and then she schedules the 4:00 meeting and then she did the 5:00 statement. i'm just saying from the timing perspective, could nancy pelosi, the most
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powerful woman in government not have said thanks, guys, the seven of you, i hear you, they said they are going to release the transcript let's see what it says and then he wouldn't already be on the road to impeachment. >> juan: what happened with mueller? >> dana: nothing. >> juan: bill barr comes out and says no obstruction, no collusion. he steers the whole narrative and conversation in the country as a spin effort to protect donald trump. >> jesse: there wasn't any spin. >> juan: oh yeah there is evidence, they decided not to indict on the basis of the evidence or the contacts between the russians or they left open obstruction to the justice department because of a policy memo that said you can't indict a sitting president. >> katie: that's not true. >> juan: that's different. >> jesse: that's not true. >> juan: that's why -- speaking to dana here. nancy pelosi said bill barr and the justice department say no, you don't have to release this. don't go forward. we have questions about what the dni acting under. >> dana: i said it would be
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prudent to wait 12 hours. >> jesse: usually you investigate for evidence and then you charge instead of charge and then look for evidence afterwards. >> katie: she not only did that and jumped ahead of it knowing a transcript would be released. why would you release a transcript if it has really damning information it. >> juan: it did. >> katie: an hour after it had been released publicly nancy pelosi still saying on capitol hill that she hasn't seen it. she doesn't know what's in it but it has very bad information in it therefore they are moving forward. >> jesse: said it was a quid pro quo and turns out doesn't even matter it's quid pro quo. >> katie: move the goal post. >> jesse: also in this so-called hearing that they are going to use to investigate the president and impeach him, maybe they could use this comment from the ukraine president as exhibit a. watch. >> [inaudible] >> in other words, no pressure? >> president trump. >> you know what? there was no pressure and by
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the way, you know there was no pressure. all you have to do is see it, what went on in those calls. but you know that. whatever he can do in terms of corruption because the corruption is massive. now, when biden's son walks away with millions of dollars from ukraine and he knows nothing and takes home millions of dollars, that's corruption. >> jesse: i mean, i think that might be played in the impeachment hearing, greg. >> greg: i kind of like that guy by the way seems like a real funny person. none of this matters this is all kabuki theater performed by the democrats and the media which requires total amnesia of every single previous time their hair caught on fire. we know there was no phone call. there was no casual phone call it. would have been another act of racism or perhaps the tax returns would come back up. ritter tax returns were a big deal last week? huh, huh? what about sharpie gate? remember that? remember the things he said about, you know, send her back. everything is this giant thing. and it doesn't work. it reminds me like reminds
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me of when i drink tequila it always makes me sick and time passes and then i drink tequila again and i get sick. that's the meaning of the democrats they keep running into the same wall. >> dana: i'm at a point today where i would actually drink tequila and i haven't had it in maybe 10 years. >> greg: i have some in my office. it's cheap it will hit you really sick. we haven't had time to talk about my new word robe change. this is going to be my new look. >> jesse: i like it. all black. no coat, no ty. >> greg: new greg. >> katie: fall fashion move. >> greg: thank you for allowing me the time to say that. >> jesse: we are learning more about the lawyer, katie, who is representing this whistleblower. is he a schumer guy and hillary guy and run as group that pays whistleblowers which is pretty unethical a lot of lawyers believe. i don't know where this guy came from but he also has connections. >> katie: that's what i'm talking about. >> jesse: labeled as a
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partisan. >> katie: that's what i'm talking about. do democrats really want to dig in on this. >> jesse: is he going to be the guy to testify. >> katie: well, maybe, they will have to ask somebody to testify about this if they want to move forward with a fact finding mission. >> dana: he has been out there i have got all the evidence on my phone. president trump told me to do it. so, yes, that will definitely, it will happen. you know what? i feel like they just relish the fight. and i know even today you mentioned the fax returns i think the president's lawyers were actually in court today in new york trying to stave that off. they have so many different lawsuits that are up against them from democratic politicians, elected leaders across the country that it is irrational to think that they shouldn't be able to fight back. and fighting back in terms of politics i'm just raising questions. what about this? what about that? to me, politics is a contact sport. and we have certainly
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learned that. >> juan: yeah, i think a lot of that is speculation. >> dana: oh. >> juan: i hear people saying well, what about joe biden's tax returns? we have never seen trump's tax returns. that's what we know. here is what else we know. we know about this phone call and we know. >> greg: that's it's nothing. >> juan: constitution of the united states that says you can't do that. >> katie: where is that? >> greg: you can't call. >> juan: defend and preserve the constitution of the united states. cannot get involved in getting foreign governments. >> katie: that's not what it says. >> jesse: that's exactly what obama did. >> juan: number two, what aboutism drives me nuts. what about this guy? what about that guy? go ahead, greg. >> greg: categorize what trump said to him was look at something that already happened. that is not interfering with an election. >> juan: here is the timeline for you, greg. president trump and his administration, he directed his administration not to
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advance military aid to our ally in the ukraine. and then switched -- oh it's about corruption. no, it's really about. >> jesse: obama and biden withheld military aid from ukraine. it wasn't the military that was a bunch -- >> juan: delays the payment and makes this phone call and you guys say is that illegal? >> jesse: juan, let me ask you something. >> katie: can i say something about that really quickly? so news lost in all of the transcript issue is that the justice department announced today that john durham is also investigating ukrainian influence in the 2016 election. >> jesse: yep. because there is a lot of that. >> katie: getting very nervous on that based on their history of working with ukraine. >> greg: we should be championing trump for going after corruption. >> jesse: push the russians back and root out corruption and make sure people didn't interfere with our elections. that's what he is doing but being slapped around for it. >> dana: russians should not have interfered in the first place.
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