that is still unclear. it could be hours. could be days. neil? >> neil: good job. grady trimble in the middle of that in detroit. a little more than a week now. let's hope they get something done. here comes "the five." ♪ >> dana: hello, everyone, i'm dana perino along with katie pavlich, juan williams jesse watters and greg gutfeld? 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> dana: president trump attacking democrats after a high stakes hearing on capitol hill. acting director of national intelligence joseph maguire testifying on the whistleblower complaint after it was made public. the whistleblower accusing the white house of putting a transcript of president trump's call on a separate computer system. mostly used for classified information. here's chairman adam schiff clashing with the director. >> i don't believe it has corroborated by other folks. the whistleblower says that he spoke or she spoke to about a dozen other people. this is second hand

information. >> you made the decision to withhold it from the committee for a month. >> at no time was there any intent on my part, sir, ever to withhold the information. >> but would you agree that. >> [inaudible] investigation. >> you agree there should be an investigation? >> i believe that it is a matter to be determined by the chair and this committee. >> dana: president trump responding after the hearing. >> it's another witch-hunt. here we go again. it's adam schiff and his crew making up stories. the democrats are going to lose the election. they know it. that's why they are doing it. my call was perfect. the president yesterday of ukraine said there was no pressure put on him whatsoever. what these guys are doing, democrats are doing to this country is a disgrace. and it shouldn't be allowed. nancy pelosi has been hijacked by the radical left and everybody knows it. >> dana: another moment that's getting a lot of attention and a doosie.

adam schiff creating controversy after mischaracterizing trump's call with the ukraine president. >> i'm going to say this only seven times so you better listen good. i want to you make up dirt on my political opponent, understand lots of it. and by the way don't call me a again. i will call you when you have done what i asked. this is in sum and character what the president was trying to communicate. >> dana: schiff later claiming it was just a parody but greg, aren't parodies supposed to be funny? >> greg: apparently that one wasn't. can we get a single shot of dana really quick? doesn't she look like a secret agent from dandy alan? [laughter] >> greg: you are right. adam schiff openings up by making up passages on transcript and contributing it to trump's voice. when he is caught he says oh this is a parody. some people that pars over trump's words. if the transcript was truly damaging, he wouldn't have needed to make up anything. he truly is full of schiff.

[laughter] about this complaint so the media and democrats are embracing second-hand gossip over an actual transcript. thethere are like 20 variations of the guy saying i was told. the media sight sites as evidene media. they cite politico. abc, george stephanopoulos. complaint is a mixture of hearsay, falsehoods, media clippings. basically the steele dossier less peeing and more lying. they realize they couldn't beat the transcript because those facts go against their story. finally, i want to address the bombshell that everybody is talking about. the lockdown. the tighter restrictions on the transcript. why would they do that? do you think it may be because two years ago people were leaking transcripts from the leader's conversations with mexico and australia so think were putting this stuff in a

separate code word system because it was being leaked. doesn't that kind of make sense especially when trump releases the transcript why would you release something you were hiding? it wasn't about trying to hide something. it was about trying to protect something from being being leaked. that is common sense. when you are flooded with cognitive bias you can't see the sense. can you only see what you want to believe. >> dana: especially when they say this is a practice we started after that. if they were to say that that would certainly help them. and to your pointed about the complaint and second hand knowledge, a lawyer i talked to today, jesse, said this document would be inadmissible in a court of laugh because it would be considered hearsay and no judge would allow it. >> jesse: well, i read the complaint and it reads like a thriller novel and it reads like it was professionally teed up by conspiracy inside the white house trying to destroy the president before the president destroyed them. remember the context about this. bill barr, durham, and these investigators are about to

blow up the entire spy gate cabal. they are about to name names. and this whole thing is about to unravel. so, before they do, this is the intelligence community again striking back at bill barr and donald trump. this is warfare now. because, if you read the complaint, this is stuff that is so detailed and so comprehensive and so sophisticated and coming from so many different sources, so many different levels, this has to be an organized cabal of people inside selling this guy the bill of goods so then he gives it to the democrats because it reads like a thriller. this doesn't come out of thin air. and there is no guessing why bill barr is specifically named in this whistleblower complaint. and it's because they need to discredit him before this thing is released. and you are going to hear, also, requests for him to recuse himself from not only the ukraine investigation

but also the spy gate investigation. this is what this is all about. this is sick. and it's no coincidence that adam schiff is running this operation again. he has been totally humiliated. remember, he was on a phone call trying to get naked pictures of donald trump in a prank phone call before that was exposed? the networks took this live all day, interrupted regular programming. huge mistake. the thing had no energy. and, remember, this guy adam schiff was the one that said he had proof that there was russia collusion. and he never produced it. now he is saying he has proof that there is a quid pro quo. he still has not produced it. so now he has to fabricate quotes to sell this thing to the american people because he can't sell it on the substance. >> dana: juan, speaker pelosi had a press conference at 11:00 a.m. and she flat out said dni broke the law. the democrats think this is a very good day for them. do you? >> juan: i do think it was a very good day, dana. the reason they think it's a good day let's get back to

the heart of the story. basically the whistleblower complaint was backed up by the transcript released yesterday. what the whistleblower had to say, again, confirms all that we read yesterday in the transcript and the idea of the lockdown, there was no national security issue here. none. >> greg: how about the facts. >> juan: it was about politics. that's what they were protecting. in addition, according to the whistleblower, you have lawyers in the white house who are saying you know, we had several of these conversations that we put into this secret system. they are concerned about protecting this president. >> greg: from leaking. >> juan: own political damage. and so when you get to that point, you start to wonder what else is going on inside this white house. >> jesse: citing anonymous sources from the "the washington post." >> juan: no i'm not. >> jesse: yes, you are. who told you that? >> juan: i said the whistleblower. >> jesse: who was told by someone else. >> juan: correct. >> jesse: so that's hearsay.

>> juan: everything he has said has been backed up. >> jesse: not true. >> juan: idea interfering for the foreign country for the 2020 election. >> jesse: isn't that what obama and hillary did, juan? >> greg: did trump ask for the servers back? >> juan: this is the gateway, isn't it because they were afraid of joe biden. they want to demonize joe biden just like that was the game plan to go after hillary clinton. >> katie: they are afraid that joe biden is going to taken out and trump is going to run against elizabeth warren and win. they think joe biden is the best person to take him on in swing states like pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, et cetera. but, one thing i think that's really important to continue pointing out. i talked to a couple of people today who deal with whistleblower complaints about the side of receiving complaints and putting on protections for people who issue these claims. and they said that it is highly unusual that a claim with second or third hand knowledge would ever be considered something that was legitimate because

specifically the law protects people with first hand knowledge. when you look at the complaint, there are multiple references to a number of white house officials who told me x. well, if that is the case and if it is so egregious that it requires executive privilege to be waived and for the inspector general and the fbi to get involved, those white house officials have the protections to present this information firsthand. and the other big thing is that was detailed today by the acting dni chief is that congress wouldn't have gotten the information that they have with the complaint being released if president trump hadn't released the transcript of the call because it got rid of the classification and it got rid of the executive privilege. and so the only reason why congress got this is because the president was transparent in doing an unprecedented move and releasing this call and rest of the country has been able to read this complaint and to what you said, it is not consistent with what the transcript says there is a lot in the complaint that doesn't add up to -- and the number of times biden was

mentioned. >> juan: the reason is not because of donald trump. the reason it came out is because somebody had the heart, had the strength to say i'm going to be a whistleblower and put my career at risk in order to save this country. >> jesse: juan, can we establish in order to move the conversation along because we will be talking about this for a very long time. >> juan: okay. >> jesse: would you concede that the democrats were suspicious of something donald trump did wrong during the last election and they used foreign country's help and foreign assets to help them investigate donald trump and his associates? >> juan: that's not true. >> jesse: you can't admit to that we can't have this conversation. >> juan: you think fusion gps is a foreign. >> jesse: hard guy investigate this stuff. >> juan: hard news. >> jesse: put your hard news hat on juan. it was more than that and also the obama administration sending up. >> dana: all right. i'm done. more to come. president trump is getting ready to go quote nuclear on joe biden as democrats ramp up impeachment pressure.

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>> jesse: donald trump ready to quote go nuclear on joe biden as the former v.p. faces tough new scrutiny over ukraine. here is the president tearing into biden today. >> adam schiff doesn't talk about joe biden and his son walking away with millions of dollars from ukraine and then millions of dollars from china walking away in a quick meeting, walking away with millions of dollars. he doesn't talk about joe biden firing a prosecutor

and if that prosecutor is not fired he's not going to give him money from the united states of america. they don't talk about that. >> jesse: it all comes as serious new questions are being raised by joe biden's son hunter including how he received a $50,000 monthly salary from a ukrainian gas company. check out what liz warren said when she asked about it. >> in a warren administration would your vice president child be able to serve on a foreign company? >> no. >> why not? >> i don't know. i have to go back and look at the details. [laughter] >> jesse: this old nugget from the "new york times" getting a lot of attention. biden got angry with the obama campaign research team back in 2008 when they dug up dirt on hunter telling them, quote: keep my family out of this all right. dana, a lot of experience in government. do you think it's normal for

the children of high ranking officials to then be getting, you know, big-time salaries from overseas companies while their parents are doing deals overseas? >> dana: i don't think it's explicitly illegal. i think it might show some really bad judgment. and i think that you have to wonder okay, so why was somebody without experience in energy be approached by the ukrainians and get $50,000 a month as a retain retainer. for elizabeth warren this is like a kill two birds with one stone kind of thing. she can wail away at trump and draw blood from biden without having any boomerang effect on herself. she also has no problem putting obama on the spot. there is no love loss between the two of them. so she has nothing to lose here and everything to gain. without having to put forth a lot of effort. >> jesse: that's a good point. she kind of realized what she was saying during the answer to the question, juan, but, like dana said, she now has benefited from

this scandal in more ways than one. >> juan: i don't think she needs it. i think she is hot. i think she is rising in the poll. she is doing very well, especially in iowa. that's the big threat. if biden, you know, reason for running is that he is so electable that he can beat trump. he has to first prove that he can win iowa and new hampshire. >> jesse: she pulled her punches though because maybe if he wins the nomination maybe she is on the ticket. >> juan: that's fine. what strikes me is we are going through here this exercise is it seems to me likes the same playbook that worked for donald trump in 2016, which is you make biden into the new clinton and what that involved here in this case is no no substantiation and have you democrats and joe biden trying to prove a negative. oh, no. my son has been cleared of all charges but, oh, i got to prove it now because donald trump is making outrageous charges. >> jesse: he was investigated? >investigated? >> juan: everybody checked and everybody said nothing wrong here except for republicans and donald trump worried about joe biden.

>> jesse: i didn't know hunter biden was investigated and cleared. >> juan: breaking news. ukrainians said that today. former prosecutor. >> dana: deign. >> katie: the one that biden bragged about firing? >> juan: oh, stop. >> dana: the entire eu and everybody. >> katie: fair enough. >> juan: why is that unfair to say. >> dana: unfair to say that joe biden himself was the only one saying that that prosecutor former prosecutor in u.k. the entire eu. all of them. >> jesse: that's what the biden campaign is saying. it wasn't just me that wanted them fired. it was the entire -- >> katie: if dana is correct, there is also a fact that the prosecutor was circling around hunter biden and his dealings with ukraine. and that's also a question. >> jesse: he was looking to interview him and he never did interview him. >> katie: right, exactly. i'm glad that juan agreed with my point about this being with influence with family members and powerful people just like the clinton foundation when hillary clinton was a secretary of state and there are lots of

questions and me mails showing there may have been quid pro quo about access to the secretary of state in response to checks that were written and huma abedin did a lot of that running around. but i think it's interesting to look at the double standard of what this means for moving forward. the president is trying to expose that the political elite in washington, d.c. have a double standard when it comes to who gets to make the $50,000 a month and who doesn't depending on whether you are a republican or a democrat. whether you are establishment or grassroots. and the justice department actually just this week just issued new guidelines for applying for farrah, the foreign agent registration act. and so they are definitely stepping up their enforcement of that. >> jesse: 50,000 a week. >> katie: a month. >> jesse: that's greg gutfeld money. >> greg: hunter biden is the chelsea carter of clinton. i don't know what that meant. >> juan: every administration, did you go back and what was it obama's brother was doing something?

everybody is doing -- getting sucked into like a bird getting sucked into the engine of the impeachment plane, right? it's not going to do well for him. can i quote scott adams? we haven't got to a scott adams quote brings up how clever democrats have been getting us to think past the sale instead of thinking about the legitimate questions about joe biden and corruption, we're focusing on how dare trump ask those questions. how dare he ask part of his job seek out potential corruption because we're giving this country tons of money. you might as well ask what's going on over there before you give them the money. you don't just give them the money and then ask. you ask and give the money. the point is we are not thinking about that. we are not thinking about that we are thinking about how dare he ask those questions. >> juan: that would be extortion. >> greg: no, it's not. >> katie: we don't owe them

money. >> juan: only few my political dirty work. >> greg: that's not dirty work. that's your job. >> juan: greg, this is what this is about. donald trump knows that if the 2020 election is a referendum on him he loses. he is trying to dirt upjoe biden. >> greg: okay. we started out saying trump going nuclear. let's use the phrase -- this is mutually assured destruction. if the democrats apply the nukes to this past election, ie try to undo an election, they don't have a first strike advantage because then when the democrats are in power, it's gonna happen to them. they have been pressing that but ton for three years, right? and they think they got it this time. they didn't. but they are going to keep doing it. if it happens when a democrat ever gets into power again, you wait. it's going to happen. >> jesse: i can't wait to impeach elizabeth warren. [laughter] next up is an impeachment disaster looming? while thwhy the push to get trup could backfire on the democrats.

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premeditated criminal conduct. >> juan: so, katie, the polling is interesting here. we have a new political morning concept they have support for impeachment up 7 points in the last few days. it's now 43, 43. what's interesting to me by the way is like 40% of independents now support it and even a 5% jump from 5% to 10% among republicans. what do you think? >> katie: well, first i'm a little nervous about senator whitehouse saying a nothing burger is going to get stuck in the president's threat. a little weird blumenthal weird with language and description with what they think is happening. i think the idea that impeachment is now moving forward with nancy pelosi at the helm proves that she is no longer in charge. aoc is in charge. republicans are raising millions of dollars off of impeachment. the trump campaign is celebrating saying that they think now president trump will certainly win in a landslide in 20206789 president trump now every time he does a briefing or a

gaggle with reporters, he picks off all of the things he has been wanting to do. gun control, legislation, or reform. he wants to do, you know, all these other issues, infrastructure, healthcare, the budget, and now he is saying we can't get that done because the democrats want to focus on this. and americans look at it who don't want impeachment according to all the polling which hasn't moved much and saying i'm either not going to vote for democrats or i'm going to sit it out or, you know, maybe i will go to the republican side because they want to actually get things done with my tax money and votes i have given them for the power they have in the house. >> juan: jesse, i noticed today the president tweeted if he gets impeached, the markets are going to tank. so, i guess he is trying to have some impact on what he consider to be the shifting sands of public opinion with latest poll. what do you think? >> well, i don't believe the poll number one. i have a rasmussen poll. very accurate. 44% of independents. so i have seen some different opinions about that. i'm not ready to take that

to heart. before we talk about that juan, i brought something for you. >> juan: oh, please. >> because now we have to deal with source documentations on the show. >> greg: yes. >> jesse: i have found from 1999-2,000 a treaty with ukraine searched by bill clinton legal assistance and criminal matters which basically establishes a range of cooperation between the two governments of ukraine and the united states about making testimony available, making people available, making documents and records available and assisting in the cooperation of mutual criminal matters. and they don't even have to be criminal. they can just be allegations. so, there is a firm legal under pinning to the request, the commander-in-chief to a country dry an ally who we have a treaty with about criminal procedure to say hey, can you look into some

potential corruption allegations involving a u.s. citizen? now, if you are going to say that biden is not, you know, under this treaty that means because sea potential, you know, candidate against the president, since he is a political opponent in an election season he can't be investigated that means any time that i'm accused of a crime overseas i can just declare i'm running for president and then i can't be prosecuted by the government? >> dana: under that then to your point about the obama team and hillary clinton team under that same treaty asking for ukraine help to investigate donald trump would fit underneath the same treaty. >> jesse: if that is an investigation that is a counterintelligence investigation, that does not fall under criminal investigation because that's what that was under barack obama. and, remember, there were no basis for those inquiries, either. if you are going to say that that's okay, then what trump is okay, too. >> juan: okay, okay.

you win. i give up. greg,y give up with you. i want to ask you something. what does the right do right now? do they have to close their eyes, their ears? do they have to turn the blanket over their head and say trump did nothing wrong? >> greg: no one is doing that. what we are doing and i count myself as one of them is sticking to the facts. the polls reflect that the public does not want impeachment. that means the media needs to get to work and change their minds. which is what they are doing. my job and the job of a rot of people is to expose how obvious the media are in shaping the environment to benefit the democrats. what they are willing to do over a casual phone call because they haven't recovered from 2016, is risking the social cohesion of a country. the media doesn't care about that because this is the profit model. division is their profit model, it's a strategy. so they are willing to upend an economy, stop a peaceful prosperous nation in its tracks because they can't get over the fact that trump won. in fact, they are impeaching

over a personality defect. they don't like him. that's pretty grotesque. >> juan: all right. more ahead as democrats ramp up the impeachment battle with president trump. all for you on "the five. ♪ ♪ i will love you ♪ forever and ever jamie. you're going to be seeing a lot more of him now. ♪

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much that it will be used as a routine tool to fight political battles. my fear is when a republican wins the white house democrats will demand pay back. >> katie: are you ready to respond? >> dana: yes. i'm not for term limits but then you watch that and think wow that's been a long time. i worked on capitol hill at the time and it was something else. first of all, i do think it's important for people to understand even if the house votes, the house democrats vote to impeach the president that does not mean he is leaving the white house. that does not mean he is no longer the president. i feel like we are getting maybe a little bit ahead of ourselves. we need to explain this is a political decision. it is political indictment. it's not good. nobody wants to be impeached, i don't think. but, remember bill clinton, he was impeached. he stayed in office. >> juan: wait, wait. he didn't face another election. >> dana: that's true. we are in uncharted waters. this is right. politics is about taking

risks and calculated risks. for a long time nancy pelosi was trying to protect her majority by saying 31 democratic freshman who won in trump districts. how did they win in trump districts they were very moderate people. their constituents were saying no we do not want it. but that has possibly changed. you might see a little bit of change possibly because of media attention. possibly because now nancy pelosi has said we are for this and those freshman are saying actually our constituents want us to hold this president accountable. that is why this spin machine for both sides means so much right now. because no matter how this turns out, it's not going to end in the next day or two. i think i said this in the green room the democrats have basically like cortez they burn the boat so no going back. >> katie: you are not talking about alexandria ocasio-cortez. >> dana: yes from history. >> katie: history with dana.

>> greg: dana piano accuses aoc of burning boats cat indicate i wanted to make that clear. democrats introduced articles of impeachment on the floor as individuals six months into his presidency. this is another excuse to keep going. >> jesse: that's true. they need he had another bite of the apple. i don't know. i think nadler looks a lot better than he did back in the 1990s. i have got to tell you that god, man, that was just tough to watch. i am glad he was looking to do better. i don't know if you are a democrat and you are a house member and under pelosi's wing. what are you going to run on in 2020? what are you going to say did you? this congress? what are you going to say you? might have impeached trump? they have no other accomplishments and i think it was al greene who said we have to impeach him or else he will get reelected they have been trying everything. they tried the coup, they tried witch-hunt they tried

the 25th amendment. coup part 2? where does it stop? >> katie: what are the democrats going to run on. >> juan: accomplishments green reaper in the senate belonging everything. for a while they were running against mitch mcconnell. >> dana: i think they still are. >> juan: this is going to be about impeachment the way we are going right now. i don't know how it plays out. i will say there is a big difference in my mind between what happened with bill clinton impeachment which was about sex in the white house and this one which is about national security and extortion. >> jesse: juan, there is no quid pro quo. read the transcript. >> juan: look at aoc or the left wing. they do not run the democrats. >> katie: they run the democrats. >> juan: not only does pelosi run the democrats she resisted. >> katie: not anymore. >> greg: i would say it's the media who run the democrats. this is the big problem for the media and future democratic candidates.

we have a massive paper trail showing evidence impeachment was on the books before inauguration, right? this was a concerted mob action by the people in the media and spirit animals in politics. so which leads me to a question for the media the democrats. if trump is the worse individual alive, the 340es corrupt depraved leader in history. why are you so desperate to use a flimsy phone call based on hearsay and gossip? clearly something more damaging than that. but there isn't, which is why they are clinging to this. if they just waited a week. you could probably find something else just as bombshelly, right? >> katie: greg again is going to tackle the latest vaping hysteria. (cow mooing) idle equipment costs you time and money. that's why united rentals is combining equipment,

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copied by other businesses could push users to the bootleggers. this is a new prohibition the drug war, opioids. when you eliminate availability of the legal substance, people often move to the illegal market, where safety is never guaranteed. users, many who took up vaping to quit smoking could end up dying, thanks to decisions that run roughshod over data. because vaping is far less harmful than smoking, smokers who switch to vaping improve their health. why? it's not the nicotine that kills combustible secrets. it's the tar. this is how politicians deal with facts at a hearing about vaping. >> you call yourself a converted conservative and reformed marxist. are you a conspiracy theorist? >> i think my politics are imirl irrelevant to this hearing. >> oh, okay. why were you winking at one of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle? you winked. >> i know glen grossman. he introduced me. he is a friend of mine. >> okay.

understand. i don't know what the winking was i thought maybe there was something like a conspiracy thing going on there. i didn't know. >> you think there is a conspiracy in the hearing, ma'am? >> no, no. >> greg: she is the opposite of not annoying. that's an elected official. these shouldn't be marketed to kids. something harm envelope a vaping product that product has got to be removed. too often bureaucrats prefer fear mongering over fact checking. helped many to stop smoking including me. entire industry because of illicit imitators ends up throwing the baby out with the bath water. never thought i would use that phrase but i did. you know, the thing is, if this confusion and fear over vaping steers vapors back to cigarettes it's going to kill a lot more people. >> dana: more people would be here like my grandparents my mother's side in particular because they smoked. it was an addiction. my husband's mother smoked. she died when she was only 43 years old. i mean, so there is that.

there is also reports now that the federal government, the department of justice has a criminal probe investigation into juul. which was the inventor of these products. you just had the juul ceo resign two days ago. >> greg: right. >> dana: that makes it look like okay, there is something wrong with product. want to resign to spend more time with his family, whatever. the replacement ceo is someone from the tobacco industry. he could be a totally great guy it's not like it looks good to have the tobacco guy come in for the vaping products supposed to be healthier. >> greg: investigating jewel the singer. >> jesse: do you think she suspect to something? >> greg: i think she is up to something. >> juan: i know. she winked at greg. >> jesse: man, tlaib, you are right. so unlikeable and really got the tables turned. you have got to love that when you see that happen to politicians. they did, juul, target teens early on in advertising campaign. this is like a bait and

switch. they are investigating them on that premise once they get in there they can do whatever they want. destroy the company. there is nothing in juul that really kills people. they have the chemical and then they have the water. but when you add things to it, it's these oils that those are the cause of the deaths and they are, i guess, being blamed on juul when juul is not responsible. not the singer, the company. >> greg: juan, they always say like the kids being marketed? did it ever occur like things that appeal to kids also appeal to adults like ice cream, you know, video games? do we have to stop using these valuable products because kids like it. >> juan: no they were marketing to kids and kids became addicted. even so a lot of kids would go on from vaping to cigarettes. i think it helped you and we appreciate that. but i think you also have to understand that a lot of these kids are now going to be smokers and also.

>> jesse: i disagree. >> juan: everybody at the table can agree with this. we want to know why so many people are dying from vaping. >> smoking the wrong thing in the vapor. >> katie: they are not smoking something that's sold on the market legally. they are putting bad product into the vaping device. >> juan: we don't know that for sure. >> greg: when the government cracks down on anything, it's never thoughtful. it's always ration. all these businesses started up by people who quit smoking and happy and trying to help other people and now they are going to close their business. >> jesse: if you look at the trends quickly of smoking and vaping, young people as the trend has gone way down for smoking, vaping has gone up. those vapors do not become smokers, it goes in the opposite direction. i will draw you a chart. rut. >> greg: draw a chart in the break. got to go. one more thing up next. ♪ ♪ drive safely.. .

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>> time for speech 25, we just found out what greg is going to get for us next. >> i'm going to get some nuts. my podcast promo, foxnews.com with douglas murray to discuss the new book, the madness of crowds. it is insanely good and you will of the podcast. now it's time for this. you know the rules of the cat-off. we watched three cat radios, everybody votes. cat video number one. look at this, i think this is kind of interesting. it's a cat playing guitar but then you realize it really isn't a cat playing a guitar, it's a get that wearing a guitar custom, so i'm not really a fan of this cat, you're a liar, cat. next one. here's a cat surrounded by a bucket of baby chicks. >> i don't even need to see the rest of them. >> all the chicks. know what i'm saying? speak a womanizer. >> finally, we have a cat

dressed as online. i believe it's dressed as a lion. i don't know, this doesn't seem worthy of a cat-off. >> it's pretty cute. >> lets vote, katie. >> i'm going to do the guitar. >> lien. >> interesting. >> cat with chicks. >> cat with chicks because it doesn't need an outfit to be cute. >> i go with the cat with chicks, that wins. >> that was easy. >> jesse. >> this morning i spoke with a breakfast for the american supply association down in washington, d.c., where i wowed them with my brilliant anecdotes and witticisms, including some not-so-subtle greg gutfeld. you think it was a psychedelic invention by the backdrop but there was no lsd done in any of the meetings that day. also, we have my feeding frenzy. taco bell has furnished us with some reaper rancher chips.

these are made with carolina reaper peppers, they are some of the hottest peppers that money can buy. would you guys like to try some? >> is a really hot you might >> seriously, dana, be a team player. >> i took one earlier. >> take a half a chip. if you die, it's not my fault. >> there's no waiver. >> not bad. >> no, that's bad. >> it's pretty hot. it's pretty hot. if you want to try these, go to 7-eleven, cvs or one of her fine stores around the country. >> why would you do this to us? speak of is awful. >> i will save you from the reaper, the reaper ranch. he may be in the sixth grade but he's already taking a hair styling. started working on hair when he was a little kid and now he had his first customer at five, he's nine years old and he can die here and he can style -- cut and style it, his name is vince, listen to him. >> i like all the different textures and i can make somebody

else feel happy. >> he's very super cute and also i have a podcast, i will tell you what, talk about going to a chiropractor is like vaping for me. >> well. >> trust me. we'll talk about it, we talk about the politics of impeachment. >> here now, the theft of the century. take a look at the picture of a russian man caught red-handed loading the son into an suv. as you can see come he pushed him into the trunk before raising his hands in victory, and he closes the trunk on the sun. course the pictures, trick photography done by the man's wife. she told fox news that the car was a mitsubishi so the actual sun couldn't have been in there anyway but there were good pictures. >> go, go. >> happy birthday to my amazing younger brother, i would call him my little brother paul but he's actually much taller than i am. there he is with the little puppy leo, happy birthday to him, hope you had a great day. >> where does he live now?

>> arizona. a tour when they visited for fourth of july. >> i know you love your little brother. even though he's bigger than you. >> my little big brother. >> never miss an episode of speed 23 -- how could you miss an episode, never do it. "special report" is up next, hey bret. >> bret: thank you, just on the hall. the country of us to best top intelligence officials as who complained about the phone call with his ukrainian product on my counterpart follow the law, but it was not an urgent concern. president trump says the impeachment inquiry is a disgrace, keeping congress from getting anything else done and we ride along with immigration agents trying to find convicted criminal illegal immigrants in the largest sanctuary jurisdiction in the country. this is "special report." ♪ >> bret: good evening, i'm bret baier coming to you again tonight from