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you on a spectacular level. it advancing their rage trumps psychosis. we will never be that and we will have the details, more tomorrow, coming, i promised her let not your heart be troubled because the news continues. back to the other swamp where we just wear. laura ingraham. >> laura: no. i'm in chicago. i'm done i'm in a different part of the country. >> sean: d.c., illinois, california -- >> laura: no. we are still here. they have their shoes that you're going to talk about tomorrow but -- >> sean: can we keep chicago safe? >> laura: you come i think we can keep it safe. they further. speed you can you believe this is that facts are the way it ha? b1 people are coming up to me in the airport today saying tell me this isn't happening. this one guy who i met years ago in new york, he's a great guy.
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he said i'm not even a big fan of trump. i voted for him but i'm not wild about him but this is going to kill the market. this is going to kill our business. this is got to stop. tom is going to stop. and i said well, talk to your democrat senators in new york. talk to them about their colleagues in the house. >> sean: there was market watch today and they had a story about being democratic and saying you give us one, we are going to be the biggest trump supporter's because they are business people. have fun in chicago. i love the people in chicago i just want the city safe again. >> laura: are at. we will get there. and hannity, thanks so much. i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" from chicago and he is back. president trump's personal attorney, rudy giuliani. oh, boy. he is here tonight for an extended interview you do not want to miss that he promises to set the record straight about his involvement in the ukraine and he will respond to some of
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the criticism leveled by some of the current democrats at today's heat hearing. plus, he spent decades working at various intel circles. he says, that this whistle-blower complaint reeks of coordination he and dan bongino explain who might actually be behind it and kim strassel, while not, she exposes the media devout face on the biden family trouble in the ukraine and she's been all over that for "the wall street journal" but first, impeaching the punishment party. that's the focus of tonight's angle. it seems like just yesterday, doesn't it? did -- speaker to just be grossly generalist it, you could be half of trump supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. >> laura: all of that. it lives on. but could trump supporter's, when i heard that from hillary,
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it was ten times worse than when nick bromley talked about the 47% because she was saying out loud with the democrats had felt for many years. that basically they had nothing but utter disdain for conservatives. their pace, cultural and political, all stupid rednecks off. it's all like they were just waiting for all of those flyover people, to die off. so the progressives could get ag with implementing their utopia. now, remember when obama came up with this gem in 2010? >> we are going to punish our enemies and reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us. >> laura: enemies. well, this wasn't the language was it that many expected from the man who is a lofty change
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rhetoric helped propel him to the presidency? there was a lot of hope there but beneath his cool exterior, there was anger two. anger that developed when obamacare and dhaka and bailouts and the paris accord turned out to be deeply unpopular with millions and millions of americans. and then with the election of trump, the anger simmering beneath the surface bubbled over and became the driver of almost everything that the democrats did and said. >> i have a very low regard for people who know he's doing wrong but still enable him to where they will go down in history as despicable actors who have enabled one of the presidents was doing some of the worst things to that office and the entire history of our country. >> laura: well, we went from deplorables with hill rates are despicable's of cory. john jr. intuited out today,
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what's next, disposables? well, the victory all started, remember, it was the mueller investigation. that the entire cooking fiasco was born out of an almost insane desire to punish trump for winning and then believe it or not, to punish you, the american people for electing a man who vowed to drain the swamp. leftist anger and fury also drove the cavanagh confirmation fight. christine blase for the letter to the "washington post" after being sent to a democrat senator's office. the purpose? to force an ugly judiciary committee circus and then punish trump for nominating someone who could vote may be to overturn roe. >> the elves engaging him in weeks ago and nothing was done with it by the ranking member. the net was sprung on me. >> i have heard your lies and
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overt state over and over again. look what you are doing. i ask that you not interrupt me. >> are we going to rush to put someone on the supreme court with us clouding over him. i cannot stomach that we are going to move forward. >> laura: a few weeks ago, the disgraceful "new york times" try to resurrect that trauma with more allegations against cavanagh, this time without even a victim. they keep punishing him even a year after he was confirmed. well, the punishment party became so unhinged by trumps very existence that they even decided to take it out on his death. on a daily basis, they brutally vilified his top aides throwing around casual charges of racism and white supremacy and encouraging activists to hound them in public. >> you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, and a
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department store, and a gasoline station, you take wrath on them. >> laura: well, sarah santos, christian elston, ted cruz, they were all treated to the equivalent of verbal stoning. their punishment was a warning to others who even thought about joining the administration. meanwhile, well, 150 trump appointed judges have been confirmed and our economy under his policies as the strongest by far. no comparison. the whole world. he's taken on the chinese and made huge strides in trade. if obama had done the stuff, it would be striking of the band. remember, obama said it can be done but trumpeted and mueller came up with goose eggs. in recession? that seems unlikely. again, all of this infuriates the democrats. the happier you are, the more infuriated they are at an out his fury and anger has brought
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us all to the brink of impeachment. the democrat and pulls, again, to punish their enemies, has only gotten stronger over time. it's metastasizing like a cancer. the cells are replicating out of control until the patient goes into organ failure. ♪ >> laura: they are the punishment party, not a governing party. >> they don't want to talk about infrastructure. they don't want to talk about lowering drug prices. they don't want to talk about anything because they are fixated on this band and nancy pelosi has been hijacked by the radical left and everybody knows it. we can talk about anything because frankly, they are so tied up, they are so screwed up, nothing gets done. except for when i do it.
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>> laura: yet the ones who really need to be punished here are the democrats. and their enablers in the press and the deep state. those are the ones who need to be punished. because washington has got to learn once and for all that they work for us, not the other way around. we are not going to let them take our jobs, all the wage increases people have seen, our stronger investments, or any of the other eight benefits that we now enjoy because of this economy. they try to convince us that america could never get better but they were wrong. and we cannot and we will not go back to the way things were befe and that's the angle. the punishment party is using what was supposed to be an explosive whistle-blower complaint that turned out to be anything but. joining me and i was a reaction, sol wisenberg. former whitewater deputy and defending counsel, john eastman,
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while professor and senior fellow at the claremont institute, alan dershowitz. an author of the book the case against impeaching child. and alan, let me start with you. after watching today's hearing, did democrats do anything to strengthen their case for impeachment? >> no, not at all. i think they're weak in their case for impeachment everything they speak because they make it clear that they don't understand the impeachment provisions of the constitution. they also don't understand article two of the constitution. big picture. article two of the constitution says that the executive authority of the united states shall vest in a president. 535 members of congress, that's the legislative authority. nonmembers of this supreme court, thus the judicial authority but one president decides it was classified. the president decides who to speak to about foreign policy. the president decides what to
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ask ukraine to do. only subject to not committing treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. unless those criteria can be met, there's only one way to get rid of a president you disapprove of, vote against him. the democrats are doing that. what they are doing is gritting away and moving toward impeachment which will never occur. it certainly won't result in removal of the president. >> laura: the reelection is right around the corner. it's coming out. the freight train is coming on the track where they don't away for that. gentlemen, there were also -- there was a section from the complaint pointing to the records of the cause with foreign leaders being put on lockdown and a classified server and this detail was the nixon moment for our media brethren. watch. >> why did they go to such lengths to hide the transcript? >> every scandal needs a cover up and i think this is part of the cover-up. in our hands, this document
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detailing not just a phone call but a possible attempts to cover up the confidence. >> nancy pelosi said it is clear what this sounds like to her. >> this is a cover-up. this is a cover-up. >> laura: cover, cover, cover-up. what's go to you first solve. what is this because political is reporting tonight at the white house started this after other leaks that happened early on, i think in the first couple months of the admin is rich with foreign leaders. assuming that's the case, does the white house have a pretty valid reason to deal with these records in the way that they di did? >> well, i think it's important that the white house started doing this before this particular event for laura, it really doesn't matter here because the whistle-blower complaint came out, the transcript came out very soon.
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this is kind of like the nonsense about bars alleged mise mueller report. it all comes out with in a matter of days anyway. i think it's an illusion. it you want to know what a cover-up is? it's president nixon ordering john dean to pay hush money to the burglars. that's a cover-up. whether or not you think it's impeachable, a cover-up is asking betty curry to retrieve gifts from monica lewinsky and then she hides them under her bed. at the cover-up. >> laura: you are taking us back to impeachment. when you say betty curry and then we are all getting all back to that. johnny, you are a law officer. you've been watching this entire thing unfold. this has gotten into cover-up mode. they are releasing all the documents. i think they are releasing too many documents frankly but they
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are releasing documents, former leaders are complaining i understand. but in impeachable offense behind a shadow of a doubt, we have heard that length from democrats all day long. >> that's what i want to pick up on, that last piece. the foreign leaders to be upset about this and that president to be upset about this. as professor dershowitz pointed out, the executive power is invested in the president pretty is our sole organ on foreign affairs and what the democrats are doing here and playing petty politics is threatening our ability to engage with foreign leaders into into conduct foreign affairs. nor foreign leader in the ray mondrian out would have a candid conversation with the president expecting to see it in the front pages of "the new york times" the next day. this is unbelievably damaging to our ability to do what we need to do on the international stage and of the fact of the democrats are doing that to make -- score cheap political points, demonstrates how deep into the
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hatred this president they are. >> doesn't even require talk into foreign leaders. the president has on occasion asked me for my advice on israel, not in yahoo, he's asked me my advice on who to appoint and nod to a point in the supreme court, i don't want the media to get that information. i don't want them to know which judges i said didn't think would make good supreme court justices. i didn't want them to have the information about who in the israeli government i might've said negative things about. the president under article two has the absolute advice to seek advice from anyone that has to be held confidential. if you want all of those rules are thrown out the window though because they believe they have the president on the ropes here. watching the commentary today, and that's why say, it's got to be motivated by fund a controlled anger and a segment that trump keeps plugging along while they are hoping he gets knocked off by mueller or a
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session and none of that happens and they are completely consumed by their own anger but what you look into them today, it is -- all of that is irrelevant. they don't care if it's that for the country. they don't care if the people for the most part don't want this. they seem to feel like it's their moral right to unseat a president for what they feel is a pattern and practice of corrupt acts and if that means they have to get another call saul and other transcripts, they are going to gripe about that too. i promise you they are going to ask for their calls and transcripts bear they are going to ask. they are going to do it. >> never stops. i told you last night in the night before, i think the call itself showed poor judgment which was not close to being impeachable but the democrats continue to overplay their hands to cry wolf and instead of just saying this was a bad thing and talking about it, everything is impeachable. keep in mind, impeachment is there is an emergency mechanism
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if the country can't wait until the next election to find out that the president has done a serious abuse of public trust. as you pointed out, the election is around the corner. by the time the process is over, it will be an election season. we are already in election season. though it's really an abuse -- whatever you think about what the president did, it's really an abuse of what the framers had in mind of what impeachment was all about. still want to have to go to johnny's men on this. john, again come going back to your constitutional law classroom, when you teach your students about the extraordinary step of impeachment and why our framers put that into the constitution, why they worded it one way and not another way, what undergird that ultimate language and text of the constitution? >> well, it's exactly as has been set. it's not any petty crime and there is no crime here at all. its high crimes and
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misdemeanors. it's an abuse of the public trust so serious that it threatens the very existence of the government. that's why that is they are. it uses the language of treason and bribery and high crime to misdemeanors. that was well known. in fact, there was a discussion about whether maladministration whether to be included in that and they rejected that because they thought it would remain probably petty politics and would launch impeachment anytime we turn around for they know ful there is nothing in this call that is even close to this and this is why adam schiff began his hearing with a blatant set of lies about what was said during that call. >> laura: let's play that. not everybody knows what john is talking about. i know our panel does but this was adam schiff, okay, claiming the president said something. it was a total lie, and then we will play his justification. watch. >> this is the essence of what
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the president communicates. i hear what you want, i have a favor, i wanted from you. i'm going to say this only seven times so you better listen good. i want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand lots of it, i'm going to put you in touch with people, not just any people come and go to put you in touch with the attorney general of the united states, my attorney general, bill barr. he has the whole weight of the american law enforcement behind him. >> laura: he eventually fessed up when he was called out by a g.o.p. congressman. >> my summary of the president's call was meant to be at least part in parity. my point is, that's the message that the ukraine president was receiving and not so many words. >> laura: the ukraine president said that he was not prescient at all, this was normal conversation, he wasn't
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feeling pressured it at all. this is a waste trump talks. it's ridiculous and adam schiff was caught lying and he dined out on all, it's a parody. start about adam schiff is about as funny as a toothache. >> we shouldn't be. dinging the constitution paid one of the reasons we had this impeachment provision because we didn't want the united states to become great britain. we rejected a parliamentary system and that system, if the president acts abusively or corruptly or in a way that peope don't like, no vote of confidence and he's out of the office. we rejected that appeared we wanted the president to serve for 40 years and less he committed a serious high crime and what the democrats are now trying to do is use that against them till next time they are in office. they would be using the same presidents that the democrats are using their that's why everybody has to pass the shoe on the other foot tests. if you wouldn't do it to your political friends, don't do it
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to your political enemies. >> laura: are a gentleman, thank you very much. incredible panel book. you always do great but tonight especially we needed you. the country needed you. coming up, he is been waiting all day for this. a moment, did rudy giuliani sets the record straight about his own involvement in ukraine who gave him the green light and you can respond to some of the vicious criticisms about his own competency. don't move. memory loss related to aging? prevagen is the number one pharmacist-recommended memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.
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>> laura: rudy juliana as the president's personal attorney and the man in "the wall street journal" referred to as the center of the ukraine controversy. now this after the whistle-blower accused him of going rogue is saying the officials, including -- had spoken with him in an attempt to contain the damage to u.s. national security. rudy g joins me now to respond. all right rudy, i want to start with these tax that you sent my team which our audience now can see. you only gave us two but i want to show them. let's show them. let's show them. they are dated before trump's call with ukrainian president president and involve
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correspondence with the ambassador voelker who is the u.s. special rep to ukraine. now one is of significance to these and are you concerned that you are unnecessarily dragging his name into this? >> who? whose name? >> laura: voelker's name. >> he should step forward and explain what he did. the whistle-blower falsely alleges that i was operating on my own. well, i wasn't operating on my own. i went to meet mr. belinsky's aid at the request of the state department. 15 memos make that clear. i didn't know him. on july 19th, you see it right there. when he 19 at 448 in the afternoon i got a call from voelker and he said would you meet with him? it would be helpful to us, really, really want you to do it. for five conversations late later, i met with him and now with him in madrid and reported
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back to them and by the lengthy conversations, i spoke to the investor's son four times, i spoke to the volker eight times, they basically knew everything i was doing so it was being done witht the request and then i have a final one in which there is a big thank you about how my honest and straightforward discussion went to solving a problem in the relationship. i should actually get some kind of an award. >> laura: well, they say -- we're putting coming on, we are putting it up on the screen for this is the one we have. we really enjoyed breakfast this morning and discussed -- all right all right, will of either the once you get. i well, these are the ones i have. >> the one i sent you is one at the end of all of this, they sent me one saying you're honest frank discussion helped to solve
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this and it's going to help settle the relationships with between the two countries. i don't know why they haven't said that to the press to kind of explain this very false picture which is being created but there's another significance to that particular text. note the date, july 19th. in the statement that he made, the complaint that he made, the whistle-blower asserts that the meaning that i had with zielinski's aid was a direct result, encoding, direct result, of the conversation between president trump and zelinski. he couldn't possibly be true because if you look at that juls where we started setting it up. the meeting was set up three days before the telephone conversation. just to get even more careful about it, the ig has to be one of those sloppy us guys around because zelinski makes it clear on page four of the transcript that i already had talked to his aid when he tells the president
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that. so this guy doesn't know what happened. he gets the prosecutors confused, he falsely asserted -- i talked to two people, my representatives, one of who i was specifically told not to talk to because he was described as a crook. this is still -- >> laura: i want to ask you this. so where did the state department get its marching orders from here because people i think are extremely confused. all of these wild allegations about you, you have a series of tax that refute pretty much every single one of them and so the state department was then -- it was then told to connect you with them how? how did that again? >> there's a reason i'm in the middle of this and it emerges from the corruption of how they tried to hide this for years, including trying to cover up biden for years.
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i got this because the fbi wouldn't take it. the ukrainians who came to me back in november of 2018 and then subsequently have told us to five other people who have testified to it, told me that we -- we have been trying to get to you for over a year, year and a half. we have solid evidence of collusion. not russian, ukrainian. not with trump, with hillary and the dnc. we believe he is behind it because his company, josh horwitz, was involved in it. by the way, when biden's son's case was dismissed, the other case a crooked prosecutor had dismissed as irrelevant to me because biden's corruption, his compromising the president of the ukraine led to the dismissal
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of the case against his organization. advocates gone on, we would've had the evidence to refute the mueller investigation on day on. this is a gigantic scandal. >> laura: did you see biden last night with jimmy kimmel where he was basically saying there's nothing to see her? no reputable organization -- i mean he blows it off like this is ridiculous. >> i have a visceral reaction to that man. he's been doing it since he was a senator. his son took over where his brother left off and -- >> laura: i want to move the conversation along because a lot of other stuff is out there. that's obvious. they're just going to push away. they are not going to take it seriously. there's nothing here. the rudy, i have to ask you. i have to move this conversation along. i have to move this along ready. the republicans in the senate, mitt romney, ben sasse, a few
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others, they say this is deeply troubling. this is deeply troubling what we have seen and in this whistle-blower complaint through transcript. what do you make of these republicans? the president has a 94% approval rating or around there among republicans yet the mainstream media is always looking for that crack, well, how wide will the division get in the republican party? what you said and that romney tonight given that he runs to the cameras to express his deeply troubled opinion about this? >> i don't know, maybe he's as confused about this as he was when carly contradicted him and his campaign fell apart. i mean, come on, he's not the strongest guy you're going to find anywhere. i wouldn't count on him. every time he -- it's like a child. i mean, look. trump did what you couldn't do. trump has ability to relate to people, you don't.
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that's always been true. at one time bill clinton asked me, what is this guy romney like? you know what i told him? he's our al gore. do one hold that thought. stay right there. my predictors are telling me that we need to squeeze in a break in a bit but i want you to pick up right where you left off. we also have all the text now so don't go anywhere
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>> laura: our free ranging conversation with rudy giuliani. welcome back. mayor kamala harris is demanding that the state department inspector general investigate you now and anyone working with you. watch. >> i'm actually calling on the ig and the state department to actually investigate and figure out who in the state department was in cahoots or was facilitating giuliani's interactions with ukrainian officials. who facilitated rudy giuliani's to conduct himself as though he is in emissary for the united states. they probably need to disbar him. i think he really needs to start talking into get a lawyer. >> laura: your response? >> well, here's kurt saying great, i will tell him and he will visit with you there. mr. man, how would your meeting with andre?
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you have time for a call? i mean, they are all over me asking me to do it. i was happy to do it. i helped my country get this relationship in good shape and at the same time, look, i began this, i don't know if kamala harris understands the sixth amendment but it relates to being represented by counsel. i'm the president's lawyer. i know they don't think that donald trump is entitled to constitutional rights but i was trying to make it clear that the charges against the president were completely false because what they charged as russian collusion was really ukrainian collusion. now why are they doing this? what they're really trying to do is to intimidate me and to discredit me because i'm doing such an effective job of showing what phonies they are and i am uncovering what you will find to be an enormous game.
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not just one but several in the obama administration and it goes back to hillary and the clinton foundation. the 8 million from the crooked -- >> laura: why the state department? why not work with the doj and the fbi as we said before? when i work with them? >> what i say about the fbi? for a year and a half they were trying to get these -- this information to the fbi but they weren't interested. they even hired a lawyer in america. they even gave it to several u.s. attorneys. when i first got this, i said to my colleague that this is a really sad day. i don't know who to trust you. i didn't reach out to the state department, by the way. you said why go to the state to mormon? well i did on my own because in fact this thing had been stunted for two and a half to three years. i also knew from day month one the minute i laid out the evidence from biden that they were going to kill me. i told my colleague that they
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are guy guys involved in this. the washington swamp people are going to come after me like crazy because they can't face it. everything we are talking about is almost irrelevant grade is kamala harris weren't a phony, she would be saying i'm shocked that a vice president of the united states sold out his office for $8 million and we haven't gotten to china yet or at least a sold out his office again. ukraine and china, they believe they bossed the president of united states. how can you talk to you the ukraine about russia if you're being corrupted? biden is completely discredited. >> laura: as a lawyer though, i think it's confusing. i just want to understand it it's confusing to people. were you acting as the presiden president's personal representative interfacing with state? or were you working as kind of a pseudo-government emissary working to ferret out corruption in the ukraine?
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where they duel roles? i think that gets confusing. >> let me tell you the facts. they asked me if i would take a call from your own back in and if i would meet with him and i did and i reported it back to them and the conversation was completely normal and there was no bribery and there was no extortion. nothing like what budgeted. i didn't do that in the president didn't do that. so why are we talking about us and not biden? because the media in the city is corrupt. that's why. there is not the same standard. i did this in the open. i did it with notes and with texts. it's the yeah, you were coming on my show in may talking about it before there was even talk of ukraine where there was no hiding this. >> joe biden has been hiding this for years and they don't know. >> laura: state department --
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is your relationship with pompeo go to? are you guys good? because maggie eber men said pompeo is unhappy with you. is that true? i know both of you. i haven't heard about this except from maggie k abraham. >> i think they should congratulate him because if it weren't for me nobody would unveil mass corruption by the vice president of the united states. in fact, i'm the legitimate whistle-blower that i have uncovered corruption that the swamp has been covering up effectively for years and is state department, you know, asked me to do this. so mike, if you're unhappy with me, i'm sorry but i accomplish my mission. i even -- you didn't put the last one about how good my conversation was. >> laura: we will put that up on the screen. i like that one. >> i have no idea if he is unhappy with me or not. frankly, i don't care. i'm the president's lawyer.
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the president is as clear on this charge completely and the reality is that joe biden did everything that the stupid fools accuse the president of doing wt she didn't do and now they are doubling down on a whistle-blower complaint that is falling apart. he's not even a whistle-blower. the inspector general decided the hearsay witness was credible. how could he possibly decided that unless he had some kind of severe bias? you know the definition of hearsay. hearsay is inherently unreliable as as a source. >> laura: the acting tni director said that as far as he could tell, the whistle-blower l representing the whistle-blower did everything by the book and did it because they thought it was right so that's what mcguire said today on capitol hill. >> i think you missed the 16 areas in which the
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whistle-blower either give false statement and wide which could easily have been investigated by the ig before he pronounced that he was credible. but you begin with the fact that you cannot say i hearsay sources credible because it isn't about his credibility. it's about the underlying credibility of the people who were speaking to him which is why for a thousand years it hasn't been allowed into evidence but may be the ig is in a lawyer but i don't know. but he certainly didn't do anything to figure out if this was credible or not otherwise he would've found out that it was totally mistaken that this meeting was the result of the telephone conversation. it was the result of a conversation a week earlier. he would've figured out that this guy mentions the wrong prosecutor but he's got the wrong credit security of the president was talking about. >> laura: the whistle-blower in this complaint said i was not a direct witness to most of the events but then he said however, i found my colleague's accounts
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of these events to be credible and went on and information consistent with these private accounts has been reported publicly. so the private friends have been echoed in the media and i didn't witness any of this, believe me. i found a hole saying to be -- it's preposterous. >> let me give you another overview. this whole complaints is all about biden. there are 197 lines in this report appeared only four relate to biden. biden was an afterthought. the president was seeking an investigation about how in fact, ironically, the democrats did exactly what they accused him of and paid for it in the ukraine which will be proven and then as an afterthought he mentioned biden and the first president named me was not president trump. it was mr. belinsky who said i had a good conversation and
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basically -- >> laura: ready, thank you very much but we have a hard break. i think it cleared it up for a lot of people. i appreciate appeared up next, more report about a whistle-blower complaint when we come back these are real people,
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documents. >> laura: those comments tells chair adam schiff today at raising eyebrows among experts. the question, did somebody help this whistle-blower right to complain? joining me now is someone who edited transcripts of presidential phone calls of foreign leaders. fred flights is the former cl c analyst. and also dan bongino, former secret service agent and author of the new book, exonerated. all right fred, you say that you are troubled by this complaint. tell us why. >> it's great to be had. this is one of the most unusual whistle-blower complaints have ever seen could have seen a bunch of them. not only was a perfectly written but it was written with long legal citation suggesting that it was written by a teen of attorneys and frankly for me ths didn't add up but also this isn't even an intelligence matter. the presidents intelligence
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official, it didn't belong with this intelligence community inspector general or the intelligence committee what we know at the same time that adam schiff was making all of his identical complaints about the president meddling with aid to ukraine in august of last year and now this whistle-blowing complaint basically shows up in his lap. i got to tell you, it looks to me like there was outside help with this. i suspect the outside help for democratic attorneys or the house intelligence committee and today a staff with the house intelligence committee, a republican staffer, called me and said i think you are exactly right that we think this was a group project. >> laura: a group project? dan bongino? we don't know this for a fact but in reading the whistle-blower complaint and i was a criminal defense attorney years ago, it is exceptionally well-crafted. rudy giuliani says it's filled
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with all of these falsehoods but nevertheless to layout the language. it it is very precise. he or she is represented by a very well-known democrat lawyer in town who has done a lot of days but does that smacked her to you that this could have been orchestrated effort by democrats who didn't get trump on mueller, they want to get trumped down? >> you you may have doubts but i don't. this was a professional hoax on tron. i've no doubt. let's look back it up look at the rollout first. it mirrors what happened with this by collusion hoax as well. what are they due? they leaked out hyperbolic ridiculous talking points and compliant collusion hoax and others out there would be more than willing to scoop them up. remember the promise? we thought he promised the nuclear code for kim jong un. then we thinned out later that
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there is no promise at all. the favor wasn't even about biden. it was just to look at the corruption most of us already know happened. we have that. then we have a spread accurately stating the siding of legal codes which by the way doesn't apply to the president of the united states at all. you think the whistle-blower just fabricated that out of thin air? listen, the probability that this was a professional hit is overwhelmingly high. >> laura: that they promise to the moon with this complaint though. like if they had known because democrats on the hill were part of this, why would they over promised and under deliver? they would have under promised an over delivered right? >> i suspect the democrats think the american people are going to be fooled by this. what i think is very significant is the fact that adam schiff said in a tweet on the 28th of august that almost exactly mirrored this
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whistle-blowing complaint. and was going to happen now is the house intelligence committee republican members, if they get to grill this whistle-blower, they are going to ask him specifically, you know, when did you start talking to the committee? what staffers? >> laura: hold that thought. we are going to follow up with kim strassel up next on the biggest media failure. ke... i found the experts at safelite autoglass. they have exclusive technology and service i can trust. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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♪ >> laura: for months of the media was publishing stories on the biden family's troubling ties to ukraine. just a couple of months ago in july, "the washington post" reported this. "as vice president biden said ukraine should increase gas production, then his son got a job with the ukrainian gas company." and here's what abc news reported in june. biden sidesteps questions about his son's foreign business dealings, but promises ethics pledge. but now, the media sounds like this. >> there's no evidence of joe biden doing anything wrong, this is something that has been looked into. >> his accusation is that biden's son hunter biden -- there's been no evidence to prove this by any means, was corrupt. >> he's trying to equate joe biden's work with ukraine on rooting out corruption with his ask of the president here. they are just not the same, there is no evidence of
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wrongdoing by joe biden or his son hunter. >> laura: nothing to see here. joining me now, kim strassel, "wall street journal" editorial board member, fox news contributor. all right, kim, what's changed? >> so it's pretty easy, what's changed is that republicans are now focusing on joe biden and so the media, as you would expect, are regrouping and deciding that joe biden is perfectly fine. so as you just very well pointed out, the very same people who were happy to go after him before because they wanted to mix it up in in the democratic primary, they are now rolling out their fact-checkers with lots of soothing assurances that it's all okay. and they've all adopted the same line. if it's not just that they are defending him now, laura, but they have a new line that's even worse, which is, not only did everything biden do is okay, but to ask about it is it self corrupt.
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>> laura: that's good! that's good. so reporting on it. you're corrupt, you're corrupt, john solomon is corrupt. all the people writing about this, "washington examiner," "the federalist," we are corrupt -- okay. that's easy. we got about 20 seconds, wrap up your shot. >> well, this is going to come back though, because they've already got a lot of things on record about him and the problem for joe biden is not whether or not he engaged in criminal behavior, it's whether or not there was appearance of a conflict, and appearance of corruption, and that's already out on the record and it's going to dog him. >> laura: oh, yeah, well that's beyond obvious, a conflict of interest from the very get go. kim, thanks soct much, will be right back. relievers first. salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors for effective, non-addictive relief. salonpas lidocaine. patch, roll-on or cream. hisamitsu.
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♪ >> laura: it's time for the last bite. all this talk about trump asking for a favor got me thinking, is
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that kind of the way he speaks? >> i said, fellas, do me a favor -- i said do me a favor. >> will you please do me a favo favor? >> laura: we had like 50 of those. it could have gone on for another few minutes. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team take it from here. shannon. >> laura: hurry home safe when you can, laura. great to see you. >> laura: i will. >> shannon: tonight to the fox news alert. a brand-new video tonight of the president commented on the whistle-blower in this evolving showdown with democrats and any number of unelected government actors over the commander-in-chief's call with the president of ukraine. and as inconsistencies regarding the whistle-blower's complaint begin to surface, republicans are pushing to uncover the sources identified as "white house officials." so what happens next? the former acting attorney general matt whitaker is here on deck. plus, as americans are buckling up for the impeachment ride, lawmakers are prepping for a two week

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