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but, let not your heart be troubled, laura ingraham up next. we'll see you on monday. hope you have a great weekend. >> leslie: aura: >> leslie: this is our "ingraham angle" special town hall, chicago, a city in crisis. we have the airways consumed, it's easy to forget the crisis unfolding on america's streets and the process being ignored as we retreat in our political corners. we were here in chicago a year ago. at that time we promised the >> sean: people in the communities and our office in general that we'd be back and not let the issues go. and tonight, we're here to
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fulfill that promise. we returned to assess how life is changed or not for the violence plagued neighborhoods. and whether the relationship between the communities and law enforcement, whether it's improved or worsened the city was brutalized by gun violence and bloodshed and what are political leaders doing about it? last year, rahme emmanuel was finishing his final year as mayor and now mayor lorie lightfoot is facing a number of challenges, a looming teacher strike, unacceptable level of gang and drug violence, and a city running out of patience. we'll explore all of it with our live audience and expert panels. but i want you to understand what's happening in the area we are broadcasting from tonight. we're here at new beginnings church and it's situated in one of the most dangerous neighborhoods on chicago's south side. do you see the red circles on
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that map? well, those are the homicides that have occurred just this year alone. and children are too often the victims of the violence here in chicago as our own raymond arroyo found on the south side of town. >> we're a few miles from tonight's town hall in harvey. now, the violence is intense and to give you a sense of how intense the violence is, in the city of chicago, there have been 300 homicide plus just this year. over 1600 shootings, and to bring it home for people in this community, the house behind me belongs to kentvania, she's 12 years old. earlier this week, she was making plans for her birthday party. her family was watching the bear's game, when around 9:00 at night, a group of men approached the house and bullets started
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flying, her family hit the deck and she didn't get up. a bullet pierced the front window and struck her in the back of the head. she died on her birthday. the community is still shaken. >> we heard it. my daughter was in the back of the house. told her to get down. and i came out after they were out and they were crying and stuff and singing and hollering, that could happen to us. just random shooting. >> everyone just -- i hear they're not sleeping well. it's just bad. >> shouldn't have to actually see this type of violence, ever. pretty much all question do is just pray. >> i've been here all my life. it's just not like it used to be where i grew up. >> do you bring the kids in early enough? >> oh, yeah. they stay right here. nowhere else. >> who do you blame for this? >> police presence, riding
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around, seeing what's going on in the community. get out, meet the people. >> it's affecting everyone at their core here. there's not a single thing of guns, you know, gun rights, whatever. it's not just a single thing of just that. it's a -- it's a gambit of thing, a lot of things that come in this pot. >> i've been here 50 some years. i raised my kids here. i am scared. >> so far this year, homicide are tracking at a slower pace than they were in 2018. but they're still near the top for an american city, last year, exceeding the murder rates above new york and l.a. but for the people in these at-risk communities, the statistic, they don't mean all that much. they're suffering from unacceptable levels of routine violence. joining me now is tony robinson, former chicago police officer in the violent crimes division, former homicide detective, joseph moseley, and a former
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homicide detective and 30-year veteran of the chicago police department, and anthony williams, pastor and activist here in chicago. tony, i want to start with you. it's hard to watch that story. the facts. the promise of a young girl cut short needlessly. she's, one, though, of hundreds upon hundreds of afterry -- african-american youth that get caught up in this type of violence. people watching tonight say what do we do? how do we stop this? >> we cannot police our way out of this. this has to come from the community. and being a homicide detective, it hurts me just as much when i can't solve that problem. when i cannot get members of the community, who knows? and i understand it, because they have to live there. they don't want to talk to the police. we need to back our programs
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that we used to have on the police department like officer friendly. the explorer scouts, take the youth, give them something to do. we have to really be involved with our community and our youth. when i worked there for 29 years, everybody that knew me knew i was a good cop. and i worked my butt off. i continue to volunteer, go to the academy, talk to our young recruits. policing is a state of mind, not a state of being. you can't just put someone off of the street and say you ear the police. they complain about training. you know something? do what you were trained to do. do what you were trained to do. treat people with empathy. be fair. and understand that just because someone lives in a project or a
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torn-down neighborhood, they don't have that mentality. and it's just a very few people that's in our community that raises all of this confusion. >> we're going to get back to your son who is now a new police officer. >> god bless him. >> in chicago. you didn't even know he was applying for the academy? >> i had no idea. thank you very much. [ applause ] >> i want to go to you. you're an activist. you've been engaged here as a community activist for years and years. people say, well, it's getting better, be patient. it's okay, it's getting better, it's trending better. do you feel that? and do you understand what tony said, it's not a policing problem, it's a community problem. >> i lost a son to violence february 21, 2018, jeremiah williams. violence is the number one problem of the 21st century. what we did -- our response was
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to talk with our state representatives for nine days. we had a resolution passed. violence is a health crises, we're preparing to walk to springfield on october 14. the goal is to pass comprehensive legislation on violence as a help crises and a disease. the system of violence is overwhelming. we all as citizens must deal with this leviathan, the issue of violence is everyone's fight. history shows us that in america, you want to come at justice on evil legislation. we can't legislate ourselves out of this, police ourselves out of this, but we need civility right now. civility is important. violence ain't cool. civility is -- is powerful. this is the human health crises. no one is safe no matter where you live. so, we are working towards
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comprehensive legislation. >> involving what? >> comprehensive legislation will be under health care. the cdc has said that violence is a disease. but it's not a contagious. we do not need vaccines. but we need comprehensive legislation. same thing like cigarettes, it's almost un-american not to smoke at a bar but you can't smoke in a bar anymore, why? because it's the law. it's the law that moves the needle. when dr. king and others got together, we needed an end game. we're dealing with the demon of segregation, legislation. this is just one of many methods. i work towards solution. we know about the problem. but we came along and with our legislators, we're about to have a game changer that's going to deal with the issue of violence like never before. >> joseph, steve, police, trust, distrust level, community to police. gallup poll showing this in chicago.
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it's not great. it's not great. they either know someone or they, themselves, have had a bad interaction with police. how do you as a former police officer feel when you hear that? because as we heard from tony, this is a -- this is a commitment -- to be a police officer in today's day and age, being outgunned and oftentimes understaffed, you're -- you're dealing with the difficult hurdles to clear, yet, the community needs you. >> well, well, i think the problem there is we misidentify what the real problems are. as my learned colleague said, you cannot legislate yourself out of this. you can't delegate your way out of it. however, we have to take a more wholistic approach. understand this is a mental health crisis. understand that we're looking at another group of second generation crack babies, looking at learning disorders. so we have to look at this from a wholistic approach and say
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what else do we do. and understand that a lot of police officers have a big misunderstanding of what their job is. we are social workers. for all intents and purposes, for all of the rhetoric that you hear, we don't get out of the car with the gun out. you're supposed to get out there to help people. plain and simple -- serve and protect. not just protect the other problem is we have to have a paradigm shift within the police department. it has to have another face that says, listen, everyones not your enemy. >> abc news reporting last week, dangerous week leaves chicago police officers besieged by violence. a veteran officer was hot and critically wounded.
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with two collapsed lungs and fractured ribs. i want to return now to the current leader of the city, mayor -- excuse me, lori lightfoot. we invited her to be part of the town hall. the city hall is just a few miles from here. she's very busy. but she declined our invitation. that's okay. but especially with the impending teacher strike, there's a lot going on. i do hope she join us on the show another time back in washington. the door is open. she has an open invitation. yesterday mayor lightfoot did take time out of her schedule to assail u.s. immigration officials. i.c.e. has begun a major effort to remove criminal aliens from
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the street also adding to some of the problems here. the mayor rather than welcoming the efforts chose to defend her city's sanctuary policies that hinder federal law enforcement. >> we are not going to tolerate letting i.c.e. terrorize our immigrant and refugee communities. we will never ever succumb to the racist, xenophobic rhetoric of i.c.e. we will continue to ban i.c.e. from having access to any c.p.d. data bases, we'll not allow any c.p.d. officer to cooperate with anything related to krichlt e. and the immigration rates. >> police officers i talk to said that makes our lives harder because now i.c.e. has to go to the communities to look for the criminals. these are not mothers and fathers in restaurants, these are criminal elements in gangs, pushing the ms13 in gangs, all of the latin kings in these
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neighborhoods. now i.c.e. has to go there, they can't arrest them outside of a courtroom. what are your thoughts? >> let me be perfectly clear for anybody in this audience, i'm a black man first, i'm a police officer second. i was a victim of the police brutality. that's why i joined the police department. then i had to sue the police department to get on because i was discriminated against. so all my career has been upholding the law. and if someone is breaking the law, i wouldn't care who they are, if they are illegal, if they are legal, i'm going to assist. any of the other agencies that come in here. >> joseph, doesn't that just make sense? these are criminal illegal aliens who are running drugs, narcotics rings, gangs, inside the city. and the mayor is saying, no, we will not cooperate with federal authorities here. >> i think for me the biggest problem is that people -- or that we -- all of us in this room use the term "common
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sense." if common sense was so common, there would be no need for this. so i'll leave it at that. [ applause ] >> all of you, tony, anthony, joseph, thank you so much. tony, anthony. i'm going to see you back here in the show when we take questions from our great audience tonight. coming up, a tragic development regarding a young chicago man who was featured on last year's town hall, plus, we talk to a man who has made it his mission to provide much-needed male mentorship leadership to chicago's at-risk youth. stay there.
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>> as someone who cared deeply, i felt a glimmer of hope last year when i interviewed little greg. a young man i offered to get a job, he would get out of the life of crime, violence, drugs gang banging, he accepted. >> if somebody gave you a job, would you get out of the life? i have jobs and opportunities
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and resources. if you get a job, you would get out of the life and no longer be involve in the gangs? 100%. live national television. you said you'll get out of the gang if you have that opportunity? >> i would. >> we're going to make it happen. >> i stayed in touch with him via calls and text messages. then i couldn't reach him anymore. then i found out via media reporting that little greg was gunned down right here behind me. two men walked up and shot him in cold blood at 4:30 in the afternoon. little greg is lost but he's never forgotten. >> laura: that was fox contributor and chicago native giano caldwell bringing a tragic update on a young man we featured as you can see on last year's town hall. another example of how hard it can be to escape the cycle of violence once you're in it here in chicago. without strong male leadership that's so critical in their lives, young men in the inner city are increasingly
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susceptible to being pulled into the gang life. one man here with us tonight has made it his mission to help young people create a better future for themselves. here now with me is dr. devin horton, former principal of phillips academy high school. and joining him are two success stories, brandon lange, a phillips academy graduate who has gang members in his family and a former men tee of dr. horton and a victim himself of gun violence. you saw that young man almost pleading for an opportunity to leave the gang life. and one year later, he's dead. how do we solve this? >> it's a -- it's a multiple layer approach that we have to -- in order to reach these young men. and i'm -- i'm going to speak really from an educational lens. and i really fail in that, working here in chicago for 14 years, leaving six years ago, there was a -- there was a -- we
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have to -- we have to give the students a sense of hope. and it's not about reading and math as much as it's about giving them how to survive in life in general. so something that we currently do as chief of schools in louisville, kentucky, we actually have career education programs where, we have them here. but what's unique about what's happening there, students are getting trained and for ups work for general electric work. and they have an opportunity to get the certifications required to get on to the field when they have the opportunity. >> these are life skills. these are skills to get out and work. >> work. >> work, get a job. where you can make -- a friend of mine is a fedex driver, makes a lot of must be, been there for ten years. big money. >> absolutely. >> laura: be there on time, show up, tuck your shirt in. look at someone. these are common sense. not to everyone. we all have to learn them. >> and yes, i think from the education side, we understand -- we touch these students every day. so more than the police, more than any other community
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organization, we have them in our buildings. and we have to find a way to collectively wrap our hands around adds a group and as a team to support them. >> laura: hope and knowing someone cares about what happens to you in the next 24 hours. we want you back in school the next day. in 2016, you were shot 13 times outside of a hospital. it was a random attack. you say this moment completely changed your outlook on life. obviously, you're in a wheelchair as a result of this. what is your message to young kids toying with the idea of joining gang? >> it ain't -- it ain't fun. it ain't as fun as it's cracked up to be or you think it is. it don't get you far. you either going to get -- something going to happen to you or you're going to be locked up. that's about it. so just -- just try to keep their head up, keep their trust in themselves. don't trust anybody else. don't believe what other people say. believe what you see and what you know.
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that's what i tell them. >> laura: brandon, members of your family have themselves gotten completely sucked into the gang life. you avoided it. there's a cycle in families, there's a cycle in a lot of things, alcoholism touches all families, drug abuse, it's part of this problem we'll get into. you managed to pull yourself out of that. you had a mentor. sedrick, you also ended up having a mentor. and dr. horton, how did you do it? >> so, just like you said, mentor, dr. horton and i have other mentors, john and cory. just those guys really believing in me. i said giving guys hope. he was a principal, but he was a father figure, a brother, a friend. he actually contacted me every day when i was in -- i graduated, what, two years ago. my master's degree now. still contacts me to this day. so basically, you know, not just talk, taking action, actually
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help these kids and not just saying i believe in you. show you believe in them. give them something to believe in. >> laura: how important are male role models, dr. horton, especial will i in situations where young men are in fatherless homes. moms are doing their best. i'm a single mother. but i have resources. a lot of moms don't. how hard is a fatherless situation for any person from any background. >> i will say this. i was raised by a single mother. in the robert hills housing projects in the home. and that's what it was called. but i would say oftentimes our young men are overmothered and underfathered. so, because of our work, it. >>s so important to drive -- i talk to brandon all the time and even sedrick about how do we give back and get back to the classroom and being educators. so that's a direct pipeline to these young men. it's so many young men i had interactions with over my
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20-year career. it's imperative, there's certain things that moms will call me and say, mr. horton, can you talk to brandon about x, y, z, or whatever it may be. and i can have certain conversations that mothers -- they try, they do a great job, but it's tough >> laura: i have that problem with my two boys. again, i have resources. i'm eternally blessed. but i have to bring in male role models, father figures, godfathers. sedrick, how important? >> it's very important. you got to -- you got to have the right man to know what type of man you can be. if you don't have that role model then that's just going to be one of those things that you just get lost in trying to find out yourself, which is real hard without a father or -- i don't know -- i don't know that -- no other way, which other way you can become a man without actually seeing it. >> laura: becoming a man, what it means to become a man today. >> a real man.
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>> laura: a real man. thank you. when we were here last year, democrat rahme emmanuel was wrapping up a rocky time in the mayor's office. a year later, successor, lori lightfoot is facing serious challenges. is she up to it? we'll speak to political underdogs in the city who say chicagoans need to look for a different type of leadership going forward. stay there. man: i've been diagnosed with age-related macular degeneration, which could lead to vision loss. so today i made a plan with my doctor, which includes preservision. because it's my vision, my love of the game, my open road, my little artist. vo: only preservision areds 2 contains the exact nutrient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. man: because it's my sunset, it's how i see my life.
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>> good evening. a federal judge in california has blocked the trump administration from holding migrant children and their parents in detention indefinitely. the judge ruled that the administration cannot end a decades-old policy that holds children for more than 20 days. the justice department will appeal and the supreme court could weigh in. a massive medicare scam involving seniors involving bribes to doctors that send patients to genetic testing companies. the tests were unnecessary and many clients never received their results but the medicare accounts were billed. the scam cost the medicare program more than $2 million in
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bogus charges. i'm jackie ibanez, now back to the "ingraham angle," for all of the headlines, log on to fox news.com. >> a great need across the country for federal leadership in particular to step up and come forward with a real plan to deal with the gun violence that we're seeing. >> >> laura: welcome back to a special ingraham angle town hall from chicago, a city in crisis. now, many people in the city feel that kind of deflection doesn't do a lot to help the continued scourge of gun violence. and end it. as we have mentioned earlier, we asked the mayor to appear, but like her predecessor, rahm emmanuel, she declined. two of them are looking to flip the political script in the city and in the state joined me now. jesus laurio is the chairman of the hispanic republic assembly
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in illinois. and dr. willy wilson who's running against dick durbin for the senate. dr. wilson. it's great to see you. and jesus, thank you for being here. [ applause ] dr. wilson, your story like so many of these stories is both so inspiring and tragic. you've gone into business and done fabulously well, you worked your tail off, incredible work. and your son, omar, was tragically shot and killed within 24 hours of being released from prison. now, you didn't even want to bail them out. but eventually you relented. he was released from prison, 24 hours later, he was dead. you named your business after him. omar medical supplies. and you're here today to tell us what can we do and what can you do and others in the business community to try to give these kids a way out of the life of
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drugs and gangs? >> i think we have to find economic development, jobs, contracts, things of that nature. we have to put our family, our kids first. the city has made an investment, but they haven't made an investment within the african-american community or latino communities as they do other communities, right? we can change this whole situation, it would be different. now, i have nothing against sanctuary cities or anything like that, but if you're going to invest in a sanctuary city, invest it to the city that you have right now today with black folks and latinos. >> laura: black and latino folks want a sanctuary of their own safe from gun violence, correct? >> if you bring them from outside and come in, i got nothing against sanctuary cities, but if you're going to focus on sanctuary cities, focus on what's here. >> laura: their idea is sanctuary cities, illegal alien criminals, not people working in
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a restaurant, but criminals, they'll not work with i.c.e. or federal authorities to get them off of the streets. they're not going to help. that does not help chicago. i would have to take issue with that. that's not helping to make life easier for police or the people. they have enough problem with gangs. they have more problems. >> what does happen in chicago. you take the tax dollars that the african-americans pay in chicago, latinos pay in chicago, it goes to the white community, doesn't get to our community. you close down 50 schools in the city of chicago. >> laura: that was a disaster. >> don't close one white school down. close down 50 white schools, they would have me hanging on state street. >> laura: it's a very segregated city, jesus. it's the second most segregated city next to detroit, i believe, in the united states. people feel that. general crime has gone down in the state as it has in the country since the '80s, but
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crime is disproportionately affecting the minority communities. i think dr. wilson is getting at that as well. what could be done, what could you do as a latino, a republican, wants to get to politics. this is a democrat state. run by democrats. been run by democrats for decades and decades in chicago. >> right. so republicans in the city of chicago are few. what i would like to encourage the new mayor is to come and speak to us because we are in these communities, we're being affected by crime -- we're getting affectled by the high taxes and the corruption going on. we may be a small number, but we are a constituency that have ideas, right? with limited government, we believe in low taxes, like dr. wilson said. we need economic opportunities. that's what's missing from the democratic platform. we need jobs. >> laura: all right, guys, thank you so much for your perspective.
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you're not going to hear it anywhere else. in moments, we're going to give you an exclusive look inside of a cook county department of corrections prison where felons are turning their lives around with the help of local pastors, town hall, a city in crisis continues in a moment. pharmacist-recommended memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.
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>> laura: a key ingredient of breaking the cycle of violence is reaching out to prison inmates. you met the author of the new book taken for granted earlier in the special. he has an exclusive look inside of the cook county department of corrections where local pastors have taken it upon themselves to help felons turn their lives around so they don't make it back in once they're released. here's what i found. >> you guys are being held as you await trial. what is it that you've noticed in your time in the life in the '90s up to now with some of the younger generation you're seeing coming in to the cook county jail? >> a lot of families now are, you know, they don't have parents. they don't have mothers and fathers. in this society, you've got government officials telling you dos and don'ts, what you can't do in your own child when some fathers not there, decades, a long time, never coming home. and you have young kids raising
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themselves. they turn to rappers, etc., to be their god. >> you believe the government has allowed for the violence to stir in a way because you can't discipline your children? >> i was going to school, there was -- you stood up and you said the pledge of allegiance to america. today, you get in trouble if your child goes to school and does that. and this second chance program, this is kind of -- it's crazy. you -- we in jail but we have people coming here to try to help give us insight, motivate us to want to do better, build lives for ourselves and our family members when we want to come out. forget what the street done told you. that's what i got you. >> would you all agree it's time to start snitching. >> standing up and doing what's right is different than snitching. i think people need to understand the difference between telling and -- telling what's right and snitching. it's a major difference between the two.
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>> you agree, the community should work with the police and should be telling on those who are committing the crimes? >> we have to work together if the crime rate is going to drop. if you want this to stop. we have to hold each other accountable. you know? they need to see men like us come into the communities and say, see what we've done? see the things that we've done? and see where it landed us? it landed us in prison, but there's a lot worse things than prison, like an early grave. i want to be the solution and not the problem when i return back to society. i want to be an asset and not a liability when i return back to society. >> thank y'all for spending this time. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> yes, sir. >> laura: joining me now is the director of that program, dr. eddie cornigay of prison ministries, and pastor cory books, founder of new beginnings church, where we are tonight. doctor, the rise program is helping inmates reform their
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life. so what kind of results are you seeing? >> well, what we're seeing is a really transformation in terms of the -- of the possibilities and hope and the hope that people have in a place where you wouldn't necessarily see that. and so our programming begins with the idea that re-entry begins prerelease. and pastor winston started with this declaration that we're going to turn jails into boarding schools. and so we've taken that concept and with that, marshaled all of the resources at living worth christian ministry has and taken it to the jails. it's not just the ministers that go in, it's also professionals that have expertise that go in and teach business, lit financial literacy, to a population that is oftentimes left out, misunderstood, and deemed to be lost. but we understand that they are the solution and they're not the problem. >> dr. brooks, we were at the
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indiana women's prison, recently, featuring a similar program. that -- when you hear about it out when you're not really focusing on this issue, you think, these are convicts. they did their time. we're babying them. but i think what we see are those two men, very well spoken. they don't want kids to get in the cycle of violence insighting fatherhood. men and what our previous guests said, to learn to be a man today. where are you learning your skills? all of us? those types of skills, to be a woman, to be a man, who is your role model? i -- that's inspiring. >> absolutely. it's very much needed. in our society, we need to have individuals who are incarcerated or being inspired, not only being inspired, but also inspiring others to live a better life. it's important we have mentors that are coming alongside. it's important we have churches
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like our church trying to minister to the marginalized. we have project hood, helping others attain a destiny. all about focusing on individuals making sure they get jobs and not going to jail. making sure they replace their guns with hammers. making sure they get jobs and opportunities and not contracts. we believe when individuals have those opportunities, they can turn their lives around. they don't have to wait on people to come and save them. they can do it for themselves. >> laura: and thank you for getting us in this place, you're smack dab in the middle of one of the most dangerous neighborhoods where we are right now. the faith aspect for all of us, society in general, this community, how critical is it that we have a spiritual renewal. a government program can't give you a hug, can't be there at night. can't check in at the end of the day. how important is the faith aspect? >> it's extremely important. in fact, there is no solution outside of faith. everything begins with faith. you have to stay in faith.
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and you have to -- [ applause ] >> laura: both of you, thank you so much for being here tonight and being an example to young men and women. we need -- we need hundreds of thousands of you in all walks of life in all over this country. and we just salute you. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> laura: coming up, last year, we met the aunt of demetrius griffin, a 15-year-old burned alive after a gang tried unsuccessfully to recruit him. he was trying to resist them. at the time, there were no arrests. she's here again with demetrius' mother to give us an update on the search for his killers, stay there.
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>> he wasn't in a gang. he didn't do drugs. that was my only nephew. he was 15 years old. two years, $10,000, nothing. >> thank you so much. thank you so much.
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>> i'm so sorry. >> that's from our town hall last year, the woman i shared that hug with was michelle. her nephew was murdered by a vicious gang. at that time, no arrests were made after two years of investigation, and one year later, have his killers been brought to justice? joining me now is rochelle and poly. it's his mother. rochelle, it's good to see you again. i did meet you last time. you couldn't be with us. >> that was difficult. i know. polly, tell us. you have no leads in this investigation? >> no leads. we need as much help as we can to bring the killers to justice. that's why they're trying for us to keep the story here so we can get help. all kids' lives matter to me.
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and my son was taken from me, and no mother should have to deal with that. so it's kind of hard for me right now. >> polly, no words. rochelle, one in six murders are solved in this city. one in six. it's the lowest solving murders rate in the country. the worst called clearance rate in the country. how does that make everybody here feel? >> it makes me feel horrible. it makes me feel that we as people don't value life, don't value children. because we don't value any values anymore. demetrius, the loving sweet kid. he was 96 pounds, he was 4'9". they burnt him beyond recognition. i haed to get dental records to identify him. we were -- we had to no service,
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no way to say good-bye. we had to take him straight from the morgue to the grave. we had to have a memorial service. what we keep doing and there's been three years. there hasn't been any -- nothing. nobody said anything. nobody has talking about anything. nobody -- nothing. we need to stop waiting until it hits our doorstep. we need to say something if we see something. >> everyone. the no snitch thing, if it's wrong, report it. polly, you see coverage of crimes around the united states, they're serious. mass shootings. do you feel they get the coverage in cities like us, st. louis, detroit, oakland. does it get the coverage? is it acceptable to anyone? >> no, it's not acceptable to
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anyone. no i don't think you have to have coverage of it. we need to stick together, we need to speak out. violence is the worst thing ever. these are our kids. they are important to us. >> laura: thank you for being here. you almost didn't come. we really, really appreciate it. i never forgot demetrius, not one day since last year. it's a $15,000 reward? >> yeah. >> laura: it's $20,000 now. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> laura: $20,000, someone can tell us about this murder. we have some time for some questions from the audience, some points. i think we can go to marlene first. marlene? >> hi, i'm marlene, hi, everyone. i feel your pain. i lost a brother to gun violence. and it was the most heart wrenching thing to ever go through, oh, my gosh, it was.
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but, for me, it's -- it's not a questionable statement, it's like we need the foundation of love and unity and peace. we need to get along with each other. that's what it is. we need to get along. getting along is back in the day we had the big mama, we had people looking out for each other. that's what means the most to me. my brother was loving and kind, he went to school, went to college, wasn't in a gang. he got caught in a cross fire and died instantly. shot in the head. we found one killer. we did. what makes us grounded and keeps us excited, we hold the legacy. and our legacy is to love one another, have peace and unity and stop hating and always tell people, the reason we don't like each other or because we don't get along -- >> laura: we have to care about each other as fellow americans. i want to go back to the panel and thank you so much for that.
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you heard the stories. two women, two tragic stories. let's go to you. lack of -- a lack of love, unity, role models, enough support for the police, enough police. it's a lot. we didn't touch on drugs in this situation. but drugs have been a part of a lot of the violence, selling them, pushing them, being on them, getting on them because of this situation. how important is that? it's very important, i believe some of the mothers here, polly -- my heart goes out. >> thank you. i've seen it when you have children come home with $400 sneakers on, they been out all night long, go to school, they become the head of house hold. a drug kid will tell you,
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listen, why should i go to school when i can make $200 or $300 a day and come home? the foundation starts at the home. drugs is definitely the scourge of any community. but it became an epidemic when it started to go to other communities. it's always been here in the black community. >> laura: joseph, on this issue, we have a lot of pain, opioids, meth. now we're going to legalize drugs. it's going to solve our problem, knock out the violence. you're seeing a lot of violence in communities where it's legalized. you bring in cheaper, more powerful stuff to undercut the legal sales. >> for lack of censorship, i won't say what's in my mind. i'll say it's not just opioid. in one, it's an epidemic. the other it's a scourge. in our community, the second and third generation of crack
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babies. we're seeing a large influx in the number of kids that have learning disabilities. we don't talk about that in terms of how people get attracted to what brings them to the gang. a lot of them are looking for someone to love them, someone to help them. someone to accept them. that's what you find happening in a lot of these communities, particularly ours. there's hope in this room. people came here to share their pape and demand action from within ourselves and from our leadership. >> i want people to know we have put violence on trial in illinois. violence is on trial in illinois. and we are turning pain into policy. pain into policy. i am a grieving father. it doesn't feel good when you lose your child. i need everybody in america to be patriotic.
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help us pass comprehensive legislation on violence and human health crisis, it's a disease. we will all be eliminated from this planet if we do not get control. legislation is very key right now. we need people to walk with us to springfield. >> laura: thank you very much. thank you for being here, panel. stay tuned. we'll be right back.
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>> laura: last year, i said i wouldn't stop covering the violence ravaging one of america's greatest cities. chicago will not be forgotten. i hope we did our small part tonight to do that. i want to thank everyone in the audience. you have busy lives, thank you to all of you. special thanks to cory brooks, pastor brooks, and the new bee againings church for making this evening what it was. we love being here. we're coming back. that's my pledge to you. and thank you all for being here
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tonight. we appreciate it. shannon bream and the fox news at night team take it all from here. >> this is a fox news alert, breaking news on the whistleblower story. questions about why the intel community recently changed the key whistleblower requirement, in order to complain, you had to have firsthand knowledge. not anymore. what sparked the change and exactly when did it happen? plus, the u.s. special envoy to the ukraine resigning tonight. he reportedly leaked to the personal attorney rudy giuliani to ukrainian officials. and they're fast tracking the subpoena push, sending

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