more information. we could barely get it in. laura ingraham, she is not in the d.c. swamp, she is in the new york city swamp today. >> laura: i decided to come out and check out your swamp. >> sean: there's a million studios here, i have no idea where you are located. >> laura: i don't know, you are on the 40th floor with the cool people.we're downed in the. >> sean: they want me dead already. >> laura: we are in a big studio, i don't even know what to do, there is so much room in here. bringing in refrigerators. >> sean: your d.c. studios are tiny -- >> laura: tiny things! it's a small studio. >> sean: the place is huge, i can play basketball in here. >> laura: we have tapes in our old studio. old school, i like it. great showt tonight.

>> sean: welcome to new york. >> laura: thanks so much, good to see you. i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle" from new york city tonight. the president's personal attorney back by popular demand rudy giuliani will be here in moments, right here in studio to lay out how he is considering fighting back versus the house democrats. plus, an "ingraham angle" investigation, we reveal adam schiff's long-running ties to ukraine. just how deeply they go? and what does a soviet-born arms dealer have to do with it all? that's later on in the show. but first, the real election interference, thatt is the focus of tonight's "angle." last night, we expose democrats growing destructive democracy especially voters in red state america. who liberals view them with total and utter contempt. socialism is a hard sell in aflyover country. it's one of the reasons elizabeth warren chokes every time she is asked whether medicare for all will raise taxes on the middle class because she knows it will.

>> direct question, will middle-class taxes go up to pay program? >> look, what families have to deal with is cost. total cost.that's what they havl with. >> how are you going to pay for it? are you going to raise middle-class taxes? >> costs are going to go up for the wealthiest americans, for big corporations. >> taxes by cost? > yeah. andd hardworking, middle-class families are going to see their costs go down. >> laura: democrats know their dpolicies are not going to lead to a stronger economy.. certainly it's not going to be stronger than trump's. they don't even bother trying to make that case anymore. instead, they find themselves reverting to the old hillary clinton playbook. in other words, if you aren't confident you can win on the merits, undermine the process. and, if you lose, don't accept the outcome as legitimate. work to undermine its legitimacy by any means necessary. there were four key facts that demonstrate how the democrats

used foreign powers, deep state actors, and targeted leaks to tamper with the election ofli 2016, and they're not finished yet. fact number one: in april of 2016, it was the hillary clinton campaign and the dnc that hired fusion gps, which funded the research in that phony dossier. they relied on a british spy, a foreign agent christopher steele, to compile what they considered to damaging information on donald trump at and his campaign. much of it, of course, unverified and ultimately discredited. but that didn't matter to them! >> christopher steele's dossier says that cohen he was involved with russians and the election interference effort to cover it up. >> go back to the fricking fracking christopher steele

dossier. how was russia reportedly trying to compromise and cultivate donald trump for years? by offering him lucrative real estate deals. >> first of all, there's the question of whether the tape exists which is brought up in the steele dossier, which is, by the way, looking better and better. >> laura: they pass the allegations to anti-trump interest in the government, from john mccain to the fbi. and sought to open up an investigation of any and all figures near candidate trump. what did someone once call it? an insurance policy, that's right. fact number two: the democrats used the fbi and the obama doj to peddle the foreign source dossier to the fisa court to secure warrants against trump's advisors, like carter page. former fbi director jim comey and deputy andrew mccabe tripped over themselves running to the fisa court that ultimately permitted them to surveil america's citizens. and then the same deep state

actors started leaking info to friendly media. >> we have had reporting in recent months that george papadopoulos was involved in tryingos to set up meetings with russian government officials including t vladimir putin, for candidate donald trump. we know carter page was considered by the fbi to be potentially a knowing russian agent, you can see why the mueller inquiry might look for communications related to them. >> laura: oh. fact number three: democrats used foreign agents to do their dirty work in 2016. do you remember how george papadopoulos, a low level trump volunteer,ve got roped into this entire drama? in april of 2016, he had a conversation with this man joseph mifsud, a professor from malta withct long standing tieso the state department for this

professor tried to tempt papadopoulos, claiming the russians had dirt on hillary. well, not exactly a political sycophant, papadopoulos repeated the information to alexander downer. according to reports, theni meeting with downer was set up by people papadopoulos didn't even know. papadopoulos later accused downer of recording their conversations, how convenient. and somehow, the those conversations made theirnt way o the deep state channels and became the predicate for the entire investigation into team trump. and it all happened courtesy of two foreign actors, an alt aussie and a maltese, not talking about a cute puppy. now the democrats are telling us they are worried about foreign intrusion in elections? fact number four: when the mueller probe fizzled, democrats needed a backup, and quick, and they thought they found it. democrats prayed and hoped that robert mueller would unearth something, anything, to justify the impeachment of donaldo trum. well, basically found nothing.

>> i have to say that, far from breathing life into the report, he kind of sucked the life out of the report. >> i was struck by the enormous personal contrast between robert mueller and donald trump. >> i think he is out of legal jeopardy, i hate to say it. and you're putting my blood vessels at risk, but my hunch is he has gotten away with it. >> laura: which brings us to the present. the democrats know the department of justice is actively investigating the deepno state machinations in 206 and the role played by the foreign actors we just told you about. they will do anything to destroy not only the president, but attorney general bill barr, and a state department on the brink of uncovering their election tampering. >> i thought pompeo was just an ambitious guy. and i'm finding out he, like william barr, are trumpian. >> one would think with all that is going on,

bill barr, i d don't want to sound sassy, but globe-trotting on an issue that is highly personal to the president, doesn't seem o like the job function of the attorney generam that seems like, i don't know, someone from trump's 2020 reelection campaign. >> bingo. >> laura: now, what the media is missing in the much discussed call with the ukrainian president is that trump requested ukraine's cooperation to investigate not only wrongdoing by the bidens, butt n the entire deep state, as well. in other words, he is working, the president is working, to uncover election meddling. i thought that is what the democrats wanted. just today, "the daily beast" reports that barr traveled to rome to listen to a secret recording of a deposition by the professor mifsid. the attorney general is clearly closing in on the foreign players from 2016. come on, this all explains why

the democrats are freaking out and they are so determined to stop trump and smear barr. they bet that it is safer to sully trump with bogus accusations and finally face the music themselves. a true investigation of their actions to interfere in a presidential election using foreign actors, phony information and a complicit deep state. and that's "the angle." herere in studio to respond alan dershowitz, harvard lawaw professor emeritus, and author of the great book "the case against impeaching trump." tom fitton joins us in washington, the president of judicial watch. alan,l great to see you. all democrats have to do to find foreign election interference is to look in the mirror. we just laid out, mifsud, alexander downer, the australian involved, this maltese connection, and now we find out more about the ukraine and what dirtwere doing to dig up on president trump. isn't it funny how all things are coming around? >> this is great stuff or

political debate. let's use it inn the campaign let the democrats throw mud at ethe republicans, let the republicans throw mud at the democrats, but stay away from impeachment. the framers of our constitution did not want to see impeachment used for partisan, political advantage. there was a great debate in the constitutional convention, mason said, let's have maladministration, and madison said no, that would turn us into great britain where the parliament has control over the president, so the democrats are trying to undo what our constitution did in terms of making the impeachment provision and emergency provision, only for a crime, not for this kind of political back and forth. >> laura: even assuming tom fitton, that they were right about this being an impeachable offense, which it is not clearly, anyone who understands the constitution knows it is ridiculous.it doesn't even passe straight face test. even if that, even if we give

them that, what we show, and you've done this with all of your great work to get these documents, the election interference that has been ongoing has happened at theg hands of democrat actors, hillary clinton, her minions, complicit deep state members and they trolled the globe to try to set up these minor players to get information on donald trump.? that is the election interference and don't blame donald trump for beingteched off about it, but also not wanting it to happen in the 2020 election. >> well, it's more of the same in 2020. the deep state actors during the obama administration, with the approval of the leadership of the various agencies, concocted this theory of russia collusion against president trump. remember, state department official h admitted to helping steele write the dossier. and we look forward to the 2020 elections, you have deep state actors pretending they are making a whistle-blower complaint, which is really just another dossier full of frankly illegal leaks and spying on

president trump to concoct another false theory of collusion, i guess with russia's enemies in ukraine. it's just incredible. the president called it a coup earlier today, or suggested it might be a coup.this is not a rt process. if it were a regular impeachment process, the president would have rights.ht a procedure that rolls over the president's prerogatives as president of the constitution and the civil rights of those involved. i really fear for our constitutional republic. the democrats are trying to protect themselves from a criminal investigation by auusing their powers to takeoute president and the attorney general. >> laura: it is so on use what they are doing. -- it is so obvious what they areis doing. but i got to this point, because it dovetails into what you and alan are mentioning, but it's a current fact, this ongoing internal dispute looks like it is developing within our state department now. because on a related point secretary of state pompeo, he fired back at these impeachment-hungry democrats and he is denying their demands that his staff testify before congress.

he wrote the following: "i'm concerned with aspects of your request that can be understood only as an attempt to intimidate, bully, and treat improperly the distinguished professionals of the deferment department of state. let me be clear, i will not tolerate such tactics." but the state department ig alan dershowitz responded today calling an emergency meeting with house dems tomorrow. what does this mean? >> first of all, adam schiff threatening the state department, saying if you don't respond, you will be clear -- if they don't think they are obligedd to respond, they don't and then take them to court, let the courts decide, but this idea of congress threatening the executive branch, or the executive branch deciding it would cooperate in a partisan investigation, it seems to me is itself a risk to the constitution. you know, "the new york times" had an op-ed today saying unless

trump is impeached, the election of 2000 will be invalid because -- >> laura: this is what they are setting up, though. is it not showing us that this is a political endeavor? >> undoubtedly. >> laura: say what it is! >> and the courts are eversionally going to come and say this is an improper use of congressional committees to make partisan advantage. so i understand why the republicans are resisting partisan efforts by the democrats. ultimately, the courts will decide. >> laura: they are big talkers. they never want to take it to court because they know they are going to lose. >> everybody says nobody is abovewi the law, referring to te president.but congress is not ae law either. >> laura: is not, either. recent trips to italy, and the democrats screaming about this. how can use taxpayer dollars to go on his quest for mythical documents that don't exist? we are learning more about that though. mccabe, andrew mccabe, spoke out today you can kind of guess what he said. watch. >> why did the attorney general feel it is necessary to

personally interact with those folks and make this introduction to prosecutor durham, and what is taking place in those m,conversations? what sort of assistance or objectives is he actually advocating for here? laura: we know they are there to hear the deposition of the man we discussed in "the angle," joseph mifsud, who sparked the russia hoax early on. that is why they were there, and they don't want them to find out any more about mifsud or what he did or how he was complicit. they don't want that coming out. >> it's rich, coming from mccabe, we just got a memo from the fbi, laura, documenting thae talking about wearing a wire on the president of the united states in the oval office, and talking about the 25th amendment to overthrow him, and to hear him complain about the attorney general beginning to ask questions about the genesis of that illicit investigation, is just rich. even as he faces potential criminal investigation from the

same man. i tell you, they want to criminalize any attempt to investigate the corruption ofim the spying on candidate trump and president trump. it's a real concern here that you've got this effort to stop a criminal investigation the justice department isundertakin. they are leaking out conversations the president had with foreign leaders again to stop this from happening. to give mccabe a platform rich.ust >> laura: we've got to get to rudy in a second, but one final question. the lawyeror for the whistle-blower was apparent the also working for schumer and hillary. people are raising a question of conflict, but is not really conflict, it's a political alliancenf and it would call ino question the results. but clarify real quick. >> it is into the conflict, but we have to know who the players are so we can evaluate their credibility. >> laura: should be know who the whistle-blower is ultimately? >> there is no way this whistle-blower's identity will be kept secret forever. we will have to know, and we will be able to assess

credibility. but we can't punish the whistle-blower, that's crucial.. >> laura: motives are important, though. >> and backgrounds. >> laura: alan and tom, great to talk to both of you tonight. as impeachment fever is sweeping d.c., the president's top lawyers are taking heat themselves from the left. today's target? attorney general bill barr. >> i do think the attorney general has gone rogue. he has for a long time now. and since he was mentioned in all of this, it's curious that he would be making decisions about how the complaint would be handled. >> you have to appear to be neutral when you are the attorney general of the united states, and i fear that he has crossed a political line. t>> i think the attorney general needs to resign. he is no longer even pretending to be objective. >> laura: and today "the wall street journal" is reporting that barr and trump's personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, are now butting heads. they are like on opposite sides saying the relationship complicatesyi trump's impeachmet defense, and they are struggling to get on the same page!

so we thought, to figure this all out, we couldn't get barr to come into the studio, so we found rudy walking the street. rudy giuliani, the president's personal attorney. rudy, is it true there is trouble in paradise with you and barr? you don't text anymore, you're not friends, what's going on? >> it's really terrible, we fight every day. >> laura: seriously? >> no, i have great respect for him, think he's doing a great job.we never fight. obviously, we have somewhat different goals, sort of come together in a few places, and i think i've been very careful never to even talk to him about this.pretty sure. >> laura: have you never had a conversation? >> not about this, i don't think so. if i did, it was at a social -- i don't think so. >> laura: you did or you didn't?on >> i do not think i had a substantive conversation with him about it at all.

>> laura: the president seem to indicate,il why don't you tak to rudy, and maybe bill barr about general corruption? >>. the president knows this is complete s nonsense. coming from a few staffers in the white house who do this all the time because they want to talk to reporters, and i say to them, will you just calm down, vtake a little valium, calm do. they did this last time they were complaining about meand co. coming after the case was won. they're going to do it again. this is all a bunch of nonsense. this is easier than mueller because it is so absurd. >> laura: i want in your reaction to late breaking. kurt volker, trump's former special envoy to the ukraine, is confirming he will appear before three committees in the house on thursday. you have showed us a number of text messages from him, one pushing you to meet with someone close to the ukrainian president, soro oin are you cond about his testimony? >> no. i'm not concerned about his testimony.y.i have all the text. he didn't push me, he asked me. i would say push goes a little too far. he asked me to do it, and i said yes, after a day's consideration.

>> laura: who asked him to ask you to do it? >> i would assume mr. yeermac did. he said -- i have to take him at his word, right? i've no reason to believe he isn't telling the truth, but i've been shocked before. i do know they were kind of reluctant to admit they asked me to do it. i kept 13 texts, that lay out it out in great detail. >> laura: the committee is saying they are disturbed that they see all these text messages,sh talking about him on our show and others, the house committee wants those text messages and other recordings. are you going to turn them over? >> do you know how complicated an issueth that is? >> laura: yeah. >> this is unprecedented. they are seeking my records as an attorney. >> laura: but those aren't records related to your conversation with the president. >> yes, it is, it's all work product. absolutely representing the president again charges that hes

going to be impeached. this all came to me in november 2018 while i was still defending against mueller. i began gathering all of this to defend the president of the united states, my client. i was brought into it. i s didn't go looking for it. >> laura: but after mueller was wrapped, you still wanted to get -- >> no, no, no. please, these are complicated facts, let me explain. i began the investigation six months before mueller ended. i ended the investigation a month to two months before mueller ended. in july, i was asked -- i was brought back into it by the state department. they asked me to meet and try to work things out, which i did. >> laura: rudy, hold that thought. we're going to get to this more it's important people understand this. when we come back, rudy will tell us about new steps he may be considering against house democrats. they want this information, is it attorney-client privilege? does he want to testify and put them all to shame? we will find out. don't go away.

>> laura: one day after house democrats sent him a subpoena, rudy giuliani is mounting his defense. he just hired watergate era attorney jon sale, and is now considering future steps. rudy, welcome back.

finish your thought, but what are those steps? we will get back to that timeline. >> let's talk about this, this is kind of like the future. i had a couple of talks with civil rights lawyers and the constitutional lawyer today and here's what they are recommending. that we should bring a lawsuit on behalf of the president and several people in the administration,, maybe even myself as a lawyer, against the members of congress individually, for violating constitutional rights, violating civil rights. they are doing extraordinary things. for example, they areat violating -- there are interfering with the president and his rights under article two. the president united states conducts a foreign policy of the united states.they are calling n leaders. they are going to foreign capitalists, senator murphy went and into the ukraine with no democratic support --

>> laura: you want to go to court against the house? they r wouldn't get congressionl immunity unless they said it on the house floor. >> i found a really good case today about a conspiracy to violate civil rights. except for what they say on the floor, they are as liable for that as anything else. how about the congressman who threatened to arrest the attorney general? >> laura: let's remind everyone, in light of what you just said. >> in congress. >> what maxine waters is saying. can we play that? what she said. yes? oh, it's just a tweet. sorry. she basically said the president should be put in solitary confinement. what? >> there is b a congressman who set on may 8th, 2019, that the attorney general should be arrested. that was outside of congress. schiff said he had -- >> laura: they will say trump said so-and-so is guilty of treason. there is the tweet. are you worried that you shouldn'tt have mentioned those texts last week on the show? on our show? because now they know you have them, so they subpoenaed you.ord

you anyway. >> they would have subpoenaed me anything way. >> i'm glad you showed us the texts, you have any more? >> yeah, i do, many more. >> laura: okay, there is another subpoena. >> i also have video recordings and notes. if this isn't attorney-client privilege, there is no such thing. we also sue them for trying to violate attorney-client privilege. s we can also sue them for doing things like obstructing justice. writing letters to italy and to other countries that have evidence of criminality concerning a set up and a frame up is obstructing a criminal investigation.n.nc >> laura: rudy, one of the things that i'm -- >> into the theory of muellers. >> it's a novel, but we never seen congress do anything like this. alan dershowitz just said this is unprecedented. >> this will be a civil case in which we can take discovery.isl

also, we will sue schiff for -- >> laura: they will have to lawyer up. you're telling democrats, if you are doing this to the country our economy, our trade, our foreign policy, lawyer up. >> we have to raise their violation of constitutional civilo rights. thisio is worse than mccarthy. how about a totally illegitimatt impeachment proceeding? >> laura: do you consider this tantamount, what they have donee election. they have accused trump wrongly of that. >> that's what i was investigating , but i was investigating ukraine, what there is plenty of evidence of this. >> laura: you had a brit, a aussie, you had a maltese.you h. pekingese >> interfering on behalf of hillary. >> laura: the liberal media this is part of what the president is up against a media

that refuses, aggressively incurious about hunter biden and joe biden. what they say, this is right-wing conspiracy. this is rudy giuliani blathering. >> go back to my lawsuit. i want to give you another example of what we can do with this lawsuit. >> laura: he is unbelievable. >> let's suppose, just suppose that this whole thing with the witch hunter? >> laura: it's election interfering. >> the guy who put the complaint -- he may be telling the truth, but he may be lying. >> laura: he might be a she. >> okay. suppose it was a conspiracy to develop that with members of congress.that wouldn't be emmunt would be a conspiracy to violate civil rights. >> laura: do you have evidence of that, or we just throwing that out there? >> i just suppose -- >> laura: we could suppose a lot of things.

>> the t right to call witnesses the whole purpose of not getting a vote -- you realize that, the whole purpose of not getting a vote on impeachment, if they got a vote on impeachment, the republicans would have a right to subpoena witnesses. >> laura: they want to drag this out until the end of the year. >> they are depriving him of basicre rights. >> laura: this is a legal tactic, you are discussing a legal tactic which i find interesting. it is novel. but we are in uncharted territory. >> have you ever seen -- >> laura: i've never seenthis. -- seen they of this. >> constitutional rights and civil rights, they are trying to get rid of his government and lawyer, barr, and his private lawyer, me. and you know why they want to get rid of us? because we are effective. how about putting out a demand to silence me?i think that happ. >> laura: that was to set you off, they just wanted to set you off into a frenzy, i think. j >> no they're not.

>> you don't think they were just playing around? you think they are really threatening you? >> i have evidence that people have agreed to do that. >> laura: who? >> i can't tell you yet, i'm still doing my discovery. >> laura: rudy, they want to sayy this is a conspiracy theory aboutyo hunter biden. there is no evidence, or it's been largely, if not totally debunked. that's what they say. john solomon is reporting, they say that has been debunked, it's been walked back. >> except it's totally untrue. no one has debunked it. >> laura: why won't the media focus on it? >> they are covering up for the democrats, more corrupt than anyone realizes. they are up serious crimes committed against the united states by the biden family. and taking millions and multimillions of dollars and putting the united states in a very compromised position. everyone in the ukraine knew. that that money was going to buy joe biden, and everybody in china knows that they were investigating with that stupid

private equity fund with "whitey" bulger's nephew. they were buying, the chinese are buying -- >> laura: i want to tell you what you are up against when you go to capitol hill. i want you to do a preview of what they're going to do, if you decide to testify at all. the use of giuliani as an emissary to a foreign government is not unprecedented but is unusual. woodrow wilson, franklin d. roosevelt had private emissarie. but giuliani wasn't tasked with carrying out investigations for the country, but effectively acting as an arm of trump's reelection campaign. that's an exert -- >> first of all, a private lawyer. second, it assumes it's not in the interest of the country to dig up corruption from one of the highest -- >> laura: you were helping his reelection campaign, or working for him as a a private lawyer. >> i heard about this two years before the election, where joe biden wasn't even a candidate. he hadn't announced. and, it was absolutely necessary, in order for me to

defend it. decided it's not against the interest of the united states -- w laura: we've got to go. rudy, we will have you back, and i can't wait to find out whathan the hill.

>> donald trump is a thug. he is acting like a mob boss right now. >> he is delusional in that he l has a very outside sense of himself. >> donald trump had obstructed justice multiple times, that's

an impeachable offense. >> donald trump will be impeached. >> laura: well, democrats are gung ho about impeachment, but today's news should give them pause. the trump campaign announcing a record $125 million third quarter fund-raising haul. the g.o.p. has raised more than $300 million this year, double what obama raised in 2011 while seeking reelection. in light of this, what are the democrats perils they will they face if they continue down the road of impeachment? joining me now, pollster john mclaughlin, the 2020 campaign pollster for trump. doug schoen, former clinton campaign advisor and fox news contributor. john, let's start with you. you say the impeachment won't hurt trump because it elevates a 2020 dem you all want to face. >> well, it's backfiring on them

right now because the republican base are red-hot right now. if we were worried about themth. if we were worried about them not turning out, they should just keep doing this. the person pushing is nancy pelosi. a good number of democrats don't like. donald trump is in a very good position right now because only polls thing of adults and registered voters that are saying better -- same people want this. what is happening is republicans are opposed to it, over 90%. independents oppose the impeachmentt inquiry. >> laura: theac fund-raising numbers are astronomical. i mean, it's not everything, but it means something.what does te? >> john is right. it tells you there is real enthusiasmit of the republican base, andea i think he is also right that this is going to almost certainly knock joe biden out sooner or later. this is almost unsustainable for him. but i think the democratic base led by warren and sanders will also get activated by this, and i don't believe money is going

to be an issue in this election laura. both sides will have literally a billion dollars or more to spend. >> laura: pete buttigieg every time i turn around, he's raised another $20 million, 6% polling. but he's raising a lot of money. >> he's running for a cabinet spot. >> laura: if south bend's success is any indication, then it's going to be a game buster for him at the white house. all right, john, the last ten days, the major networks spent more than seven hours covering the whistle-blower's complaint and, of course, the cost for trump's impeachment. they spent 46 minutes covering the ukraine-biden scandal. >>ne to which they said it's not true. so we have an ad up, we have campaign ads with video joe biden saying he got the prosecutor fired. and he just had rudy giuliani on, who has affidavit saying that the prosecutor got firedbe.

the facts are coming out, and as doug said, collateral damage in this will be the front-runne. >> laura: people keep asking me this question. i don't have a great answer. do the democrats really think that warren is the strongest candidate to go up against trump? >>um no. >> i think the choice will be democratic socialist, whatever you want to call it, wealth confiscation on a massive scales that show the market could collapse 25 do 30%. seeing that, friends on wall street this is going to crater, versus trump's of peace and prosperity. that's it, socialism or peace and prosperity.stothat's the que american voter. >> i can assure you, the democrats will lose. ssthe only way the democrats win is as obama won in '08, with a massive recession.that's the on. >> laura: they been hoping for a recession.it's not going to h. the may market might go down because of impeachment but it is going to go into recession. >> this president is not going

to get impeached. >> i think he willbe impeached. i think the democrats in the house will. >> they can't prove their case. >> that is less important as getting him impeached and using it in the election. >> laura: hold on, i've got a question. i threw out this theory last night. isn't it, in part, kind of an insurance policy for some of the democrats in kind of the middle, who don't want to be primary by aoc plus three type candidates. they have to prove they are left-wing bona fide to the activist base. stay away from me, aoc plus three. >> that is what is going on now laura. the problem they face, as john was suggesting impeachment is unpopular with the independents and moderates they wanted on to get elected, they are facing the impeachment process at their

peril. 31 democrats in districts donald trump won, and if they vote for this, they will be gone. >> laura: therehe t campaign is working to flip those districts back. they said they're going to be bipartisan and work with trump. great to see you both. something no one in the media is covering: adam schiff's ties to ukraine. how deep do they go? and what does a soviet-born arms dealeran has to do with it? "the ingraham angle's" investigation, next.

>> laura: here's a question the media is ignoring: how do

congressman adam schiff's ukraine connections, how deep do they go? first, i want you all to meet soviet-born arms dealer igor pasternak, the founder and ceo of worldwide arrows corporation. pasternak grew up in the ukraine, but some 25 years ago, his company moved to a location near schiff's district in southernve california. since that time, pasternak continued to receive lucrative surveillance and weapons deals from ukraine's government. huh. here is where schiff enters the picture. in 2013, pasternak hosted a fund-raiser for schiff. no big deal, right? that's until you realize how adam schiff's priorities completely shifted. before this time, schiff rarely if ever, mentioned ukraine. but after the fund-raiser multiple television appearances to basically demand that t we sd money and arms to them.

>> i think that the united states should be very forward-leaning on. ukraine. i do think we ought to provide stronger cooperation to o ukrai. ourng military support of ukraie is an important message to our allies in the region that we will back them up. >> you want the united states right now to not only provide humanitarian aid to ukraine, but also start providing serious weapons, right? >> i do. and i think it is overdue. >> laura: why isn't anyone asking more questions about schiff's place at the center of the left's new ukraine hysteria? to help us sort to this, i'm joined by investigative journalist lee smith, author of the upcoming book "the plot against the president." you believe that schiff's involvement with ukraine makes a lot of sense. how so? >> i mean, i think it's part of a larger pattern we've seen over the last three years regarding the entire russia-gate hoax and operation. first of all, we have christopher steele, who we know is working for a russian

oligarch olig f derigaska. we have the producers of the steele dossier from fusion gps they were also working for russian oligarchs. of course, the press has picked up on none of these things. these are the different things that they turned a blind eye, and instead they fabricate relations and alliances between the trump team and all sorts of figures. >> l laura: i went back and looked at some of the liberals who were writing about schiff and this guy, pasternak, who did some fund-raisers for him. nothing illegal about doing fund-raisers for him, but liberals were kind of concerned that someone like schiff would be going after -- would be the one they choose to go after trump. because schiff was, at that time, a middle-of-the-road, even trending toward more of a, you know, war hawk.

raytheon pac had given him some money at that point. the liberals weren't all that wild about the idea of this schiff character pushing the trump narrative, because they thought, he's kind of a pro-military expenditure, ra-ra get more money to these other governments. they weren't thrilled about that. what else have you found? >> he was running against obama administration policy there.so e democratic party is all in lockstep on trump-russia, and now trump-ukraine, he was going against obama administration policy regarding ukraine and russia at the time. there is another issue, as well, with mr. pasternak, and i want to be very clear about this. i think it is something we should start looking into and know about. as you said, mr. pasternak started getting involved in started doing deals with the ukrainian defense industry, starting at the time of the conflict began in 2014. and now one of his projects with the ukrainian defense industry is under investigation. it's not him, and it is not his company itself, but it's the deal that is under investigation

in the ukraine, and that investigation started july 22nd so i just think that there are different threads we need to pulld out here and find out exactly what is going on especially since representative schiff is throwing out a lot of baselessas charges, but it would be interesting to know since people are making so many charges about ukraine and russia, let's get to the bottom of it all. >> laura: yeah, let's throw all the facts out there. and it did seem his focus became more ukraine-centered after his pasternak help. >> this is another thing that i think, i believe probably attorneyli a general william bar and u.s. attorney john durham, i believe they must be looking into this. they must be looking into -- we know they are looking into foreign influence and are looking at foreign countries. one of the other things i suspect they are looking at is the different relationships that people who were involved in the

dossier and russia-gate operation, one of the relations that they have with ukraine what relationships they have with russia, as well. these are important questions and again, i hope they are getting to the bottom of it. >> laura: again, ukraine probably thought it was probably better for hillary to win then trump, supposedly not going to spend as much money on military, be as much of a war hawk. hillary would be more of a war hawk, spending moree money. i mean, that part of it makes sense. lee, we have to ask more questions and hopefully get more answers. but igor pasternak, i expect we will see his name come up again. coming up, as impeachment mania continues to sweep the nation'ss developments around the world. china unveiling a new supersonic weapon that our next guest says is a direct threat to our

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>> the police are firing in all directions, not just at protesters, but at media. they see us, too, as the target. the main counts are down there holding place, but in fact right here, the police with tear gas and water canons and rubber bullets, trying to get the crowd out. >> laura: that was a fox news

correspondent reporting as communist china celebrates its 70th anniversary byes brutally repressing protesters in hong kong.the footage you're sew happened today. a police officer shooting a teenager in the chest at close range. that 18-year-old reportedly injured as tens of thousands took to streets in defiance of beijing. with me isee michael pillsbury author of the book "the hundred-year marathon." micihael, this is called an anniversary by a lot of people, i think the president congratulated president xi, but to me, this is nothing to celebrate. this is an anniversary of 70 years of oppression, suppression and brutal crackdown on human rights at all levels. >> well, it's the 70th anniversary of the phrase that chairman mao used that china should stand up. what we saw in that parade, what we see in the use of deadly force against the young

demonstrator, is a country that is now almost surpassing our own. it's quite amazing to me. you and i have been among the few who are concerned, up to 20 years ago, laura. most people really played down china would never develop this kind of weapon system. china would be very nice and take advantage of the economics of hong kong. this o just isn't happening. thank god president trump has been so heroic in his efforts. but the problem is the democrats are undercutting him. whether he can be credible with the chinese when they get here next week, i'm very worried about it.hi he's getting too much attack from the democrats. >> laura: michael, nobody is talking about this, really. they are showing clips and so forth.lk this is potentially a cataclysmic sea change of world powers. the balance of powers on the globe. they are our biggest adversarya. they are our biggest adversary and we think russia is a problem?

#*b russia is a tiny little pea compared to china. the economy is tiny, depleted their own military, still an adversary, but nothing like china. tell us about this missile, why it'see such a national security nightmare for our country. >> it's the idea that they had 20 of these missiles, very old-fashioned, obsolete kind for most of the last few decades. now suddenly they've got 90. they are able to reach any target in america in 30 minutes or less. each one can carry 10 h-bombs that big round nose cone you saw, the shape of that nose cone is 10 h-bombs that can fit inside. each one be separately targeted against an american city, or a small town, or an air force base. so that is one huge surprise but there were several others in the parade. this wasn't supposed to happen in china. >> laura: who gave them the money to pay for the military weaponry, the advanced

technology? they stole a lot of it, but who paid for it? >> we did. wall street, basically, through investments., ntone thing they're very upset about. i don't know if you saw the day before the parade, the chinese foreign ministry spokesman was almost in a panic. the idea that the presidentmamif chinese stock companies for investment and private equity. we provide large amount of capital that china uses for its growth. that's being cut back.no one ha. >> laura: we are giving them the rope to hang us with. michael, we could do an hour on china, and not impeachment. thank you very much for yourrco. stay tuned. we will be right back.

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♪ >> laura: we have some good news. this is judicial news out of california. >> good news, judicial news out of california. a rare win for donald trump in

california, a federal judge in california gives a win to trump's attorneys arguing against the provisions that would have kept him off the ballot if he didn't turn over his tax returns. congratulations to harmeet dhillon and her team. shannon: a fox news alert, state department inspector general heading to capitol hill with an urgent matter at hand, that news as mike pompeo arrived in italy. one of two countries along with australia at the heart of the investigation into the investigators. democrats are turning up the heat on mike pompeo. rudy giuliani and william barr. we will tell you what barr and the us attorney dura mater after, the academic epicenter of the counterintelligence russia probe. giuliani calls him a deep state