"hemmer time." or member when we are the debate about ncaa 11 college players get paid? you know what my position was. these guys on the other side of the ocean compared to me. check it out online now. >> sandra: got it. "hemmer time." have a great weekend, everybody. "outnumbered" starts now. >> harris: it's a busy friday. fox news alert, president trump weighing in on a q prime center nancy pelosi and mouse as early today. he is daring her to hold a vote on the patient inquiry. they will not complain until a formal vote is held. a short time ago, the president predicted that vote will backfire on democrats big time. >> issuing a letter, as everybody knows we've been treated very unfairly, very different from anybody else. the democrats, unfortunately they have the votes. they can vote very easily. even the most of them, many of

them don't believe they can do it. i really believe they will pay a tremendous price of the polls. them don't believe they sdo it. >> harris: all of that after speaker pelosi rejected top house republican kevin mccarthy's calls to suspend the patient inquiry, saying there is no requirement that the house most of vote first. meanwhile, house democrats threatening white house subpoenas if secretary of state mike pompeo does not turn over ukraine documents by today. it's a big friday! let's rock 'n' roll. you are watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. fox nation host, tomi lahren. fox news contributor, jessica karloff. in the center seat, the stire is on fire! chris stirewalt. he is "outnumbered." let's jump right into this discussion. the president taking the bully pulpit outside the white house. at the end he says, "in two hours i'll be back." >> chris: it's like chuck woolery! this is a good gambit for

republicans because there are democrats who feel queasy about this and who are from swing districts. especially states like texas, the suburbs. maybe they don't want to be out on a limb on this. but the timing is not great for republicans. it follows after a string of bad news for the president about the tax and the other things. if they held the vote today, she would have plenty of votes to get the job done. democrats have seen poll numbers turned their way on this and they feel optimistic. it doesn't mean that stays that way. but right now the clock is working in democrats 'slavery. >> harris: jessica? >> jessica: i agree with chris' assessment. if the vote was today -- and we will probably make it to monday, it'll still be okay. that's when he delivers the letter that the politics of impeachment are swinging in democrats favors. they want to focus on stamping out corruption, but the text messages that were revealed are absolutely damning for the administration. >> harris: i was going to say, we got the president on the

text. i will come right back to you. let's do it. >> the one text message that i saw was just about the last text message. i don't even know was to be ambassadors. i didn't even know their names. but the text message that i saw from the investor, who is highly respected, was that there is no prequel appropriate he said that. he said, "by the way, there is no quid pro quo." and there isn't. for biden, there would be. >> harris: jessica? >> chris: [laughs] >> jessica: there was a quid pro quo. we now know there were two things on the table. >> melissa: it says right here, there is no quid pro quo. >> harris: so you disagree with ambassador? >> jessica: i would argue with him about that. in all the arguments documentsd over, there are things at stake. there's the meaning at the white house on the line.

we learned that u.s. officials were working together with rudy giuliani to draft a statement that the ukrainian government was going to put out, saying they would investigate joe biden. it wasn't good enough to say they will investigate corruption, which the president pretends that's what he's interested in. they had to name burisma specifically. sondland took five hours to respond to that text. he then comes back after bill taylor said, twice, "we don't exchange assistance --dash >> melissa: i think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign." one reason he would take hours to respond to it, doesn't feel like a set up? one of those situations where you say, "gosh, do you feel bad about the fact he murdered that person last night?" in a text. it just sounds -- i don't know. it's a little bit difficult to believe. the other point i would say, you would have to prove that he has

no interest in ferreting out corruption in order for it to be strictly that this is about a political campaign. and he does have a responsibility to not send my tax dollars to a corrupt nation. you have to look into things that smell of corruption. by the way, especially in the case of china, there is zero doubt that that is public corruption. what happened with the bidens. >> harris: one of the push back, "do you want to go to a communist nation to give you your facts gimmick" >> melissa: you'd need them -- >> jessica: but he asked them to. >> melissa: we will talk about that in the next block. >> harris: tomi, i want to come to you on this idea of the president now going hard on offense. we saw it with him and vp pence yesterday, as well. >> tomi: i think he's right to send the letter. i think it's exactly right to say vote on it. like i said earlier today, if you want to raise your pitchforks, graze on all the way and lets go for it. i think it's a challenge to the

democrats. they've been squawking for so long. if all the evidence is there, if they are so sure on it, vote on it. but see them put their money where their big mouths are and see what happens. >> harris: chris, this idea that -- and i'm asking our brain room research team to give me the breakdown, because one of them was in the 1800s. [laughter] it may take a little time. >> chris: andrew johnson for the win! [laughter] >> harris: impeachment past. has the other side had subpoenaed powdered the president brought it up. we brought it up on the couch for a week now read without holding an impeachment vote on the house floor, you do block the other side, politically, from calling its witnesses. is there a legal unfairness at play until that what happens? >> chris: i have every reason to believe the house will impeach donald trump. that is going to happen. that this inquiry will conclude with an impeachment vote. i have no doubt of that. and i have no doubt, as mitch mcconnell has said, that the senate is going to have to

take this matter up. how that shaped what mcconnell will do, mcconnell is the cagiest and most effective operator in washington. he will wait and make a determination at the end, "how long will this go?" will he pick it up and spike it right away, will they have two days of testimony? will they have weeks of testimony so that team trunk and bring all their witnesses in and they can call hillary clinton in? and they can do all that? >> harris: if you trigger that now, everybody gets to make a case. if the president is pressing -- and some of his circuits are saying, too -- doesn't the president have a right to be defense? you talked about attorneys today, which haven't really heard much about. the >> chris: but the house has time. the house is driving the bus here. they can do what they want to do. the president can -- >> harris: how much time do they have? >> chris: that's a political question, not a constitutional question. they can go until she thinks it's bad for her to stay in this space. up to this point, it's been good for her to be in the space because they can continue the

inquiry, not force painful votes, and you know the other side the chance to get back -- >> harris: so the backdrop on all of this -- and i know you don't want to be talked about, on the back burner -- the 2020 0 democratic candidates? you're caught up every time -- we just showed some video, and literally i'm on mode now. "is that love, is a tape, is he talking chemical school he's coming back after the walter reed meeting with our veterans. jessica, how much of a distraction is this away from the campaign of all of the candidates, particularly joe biden? >> jessica: joe biden has changed his strategy and gone the offense. >> harris: how is that now? >> jessica: it's working out for him. when he makes the forceful comparison of his character versus donald trump character, when he talks about a lifetime of corruption of president trump from new york city to deals abroad, that works in his favor.

but the evidence is also on joe biden side. that's why these conversations -- >> harris: nope. >> jessica: with the text messages, it is. >> melissa: not with joe biden. joe biden has a giant problem with public corruption on this. his son has no right, there is no financial history that you can point to where somebody has held these various positions in these two countries, having no background in these fields at all. you don't need any additional evidence. you need just a brain in your head. i mean, i have covered financial markets for 20 years. i have never seen anyone -- and i know we will talk about china in the next segment -- >> harris: it's okay, go for it. she's fired up! >> chris: [laughs] >> melissa: no one goes to china and gets money for their fund when they have zero experience in private equity. i defy you to find one other example where this has ever happened.

you don't need any more evidence. without question, public corruption. >> harris: hold on one second, i want to hear from tomi before we hit the commercial break. >> tomi: i agree with you wholeheartedly. anything you say, i will say i agree wholeheartedly with that. the fact that we should be talking about biden. regardless of all these other things going on, i think you should be scared. because the brick and people, like you said, all it takes is a brain to see the corruption. >> harris: president trump says we are but there is nothing wrong with asking for country to investigate option, even though it's a public level. with the public agree as impeachment increase continue? stay with us. because there was tremendous corruption with biden, but i think that was beyond. beyond corruption, having to do with the 2016 campaign. ♪ for strength and energy! whoo-hoo! great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein and twenty-seven vitamins and minerals.

ensure, for strength and energy. welcome to emirates, mr jones. just sit back, relax and let us entertain you. with over 4,000 channels of entertainment, including the latest movies and box sets from around the world, we even have live sports and news channels and your free wi-fi will start shortly enjoy your flight mr jones. world's best inflight entertainment. fly emirates, fly better.

even since 2000, the value of gold has increased by over 400% and owning gold is easy...

...with rosland capital, a trusted leader in helping people acquire precious metals. call rosland capital today at 800-630-8900 to get started. gold bullion, lady liberty gold and silver proofs, and our premium coins, can help you preserve your wealth. call rosland capital now and ask for the million dollar special. $1,000 in gold and silver for the first 1,000 qualified new customers. with rosland, there are no hassles, no gimmicks, and we have the fastest shipping around. time tested. easy to own. make gold your new standard. call rosland capital today at 800-630-8900 and ask for the million dollar special. that's 800-630-8900.

what are you doing back there, junior? since we're obviously lost, and ask for the million dollar special. i'm rescheduling my xfinity customer service appointment. ah, relax. i got this. which gps are you using anyway? a little something called instinct. been using it for years. yeah, that's what i'm afraid of. he knows exactly where we're going. my whole body is a compass. oh boy... the my account app makes today's xfinity customer service simple, easy, awesome. not my thing.

>> melissa: president trump a short time ago defending his public calls for china as well as ukraine to investigate joe biden and his son, hunter. watch. >> if we feel there is corruption, like i feel there was in the 2016 campaign, there was tremendous corruption against me. if we feel there is corruption, we have a right to go to a foreign country. i'm only interested in corruption. i don't care about politics. i don't care about biden's politics. i never thought biden was going to win. if you look and you read our constitution and many other things, i have an obligation to look at corruption. >> melissa: he also clarified that a treaty with china is in no way tied to the nation's willingness to investigate the bidens. in return, ukraine's top prosecutor and i think he will

review 15 cases. as predecessor closed, some involving the energy company where hunter biden sat on the board of directors. this is not the new investigation the present as requested. we are all laughing when he said this was not about politics. he said so many times that this was about corruption, making sure he knew the point that it was about corruption. then he said, "i don't care about politics." well... come on, no. >> chris: come on. that's why the president shouldn't have done this stuff. he can't do it himself without it smacking corruption on his end. that's we work through channels. that's why you let other people do it. that's when you tell your attorney general, your secretary of state. >> harris: what about rudy giuliani? >> chris: you should definitely not do that very differently not send your personal private attorney out on a wild-goose chase across the continent of europe looking for meetings, trying to get stuff,

you should be working with state department officials, you shouldn't do any of that stuff. you end up at a point that looks like you're using your office for political advantage. >> melissa: not only that. jessica, i would bring this to you so you can respond. i know there was more that he wanted to say the last segment about this. you don't need any more evidence come in my opinion. and i think in the case of fact, in the case of china, to prove any more public corruption. you have somebody going over on the plane with the vice president, introducing vice president to the person he's about to get money from. getting money a government official ten days later. that's it. there's no possible reason why anyone would give him any private equity money investment. you can give it to blackstone, to goldman sachs, or to hunter biden, who has never invested in anything. you don't need any more evidence. he doesn't need people to investigate. that was a bad move to call for that. >> jessica: it's always a bad idea to ask a communist

dictator, who he says is our number one geopolitical flow , for a favor. for that favor to be investigate your political opponents, the chairman -- >> melissa: making the point of, "look at china." >> jessica: i don't think it matters. it's a very specific think about abusing the power of office. that's what chris just said. this is not some trump is him "i think he meant this, i think he meant that." he said specific things. "the new york times" did a piece about what hunter biden did in china. the firm he worked with has long been established there. he's worked there for over a decade. there are multiple deals, including the one president trump is talking abou about. >> melissa: what was the added value? >> jessica: nepotism. this is the acceptable kind of swampy nepotism. >> melissa: the only thing he added was access to the vice president. there's nothing else about the table. but how can you dispute that point? what is your response to that? >> jessica: i'm bringing it to the floor, it is -- >> melissa: that's public

corruption. >> jessica: it is not public corruption for there to be nepotism. first of all, under biden's lawyer said he didn't make a dime off of that deal. by the way, second of all, ivanka trump has over a dozen trademarks that she has -- >> melissa: not whataboutism. how's a public corruption? >> jessica: the skanska branch with w they can get money for >> melissa: you know what the main difference is when you make arguments? those kids were in that business before. hunter biden has zero -- >> jessica: jared kushner has br investor in real estate for decades. you don't cover financial markets they don't do that. >> jessica: okay, how about this? jared kushner is in charge of --

>> harris: it's been a minute, and i missed the sound of her voice, tomi. >> tomi: [laughs] >> jessica: jared kushner is in charge of mideast policy. i don't even know if you took a particle science in college. >> tomi: is always back to trump, back to trump. i agree with you and chris and i think we all agree, it was this the best move for them to do this? no, he could have kept his hands clean and it would have been much better for everyone at the seat end of this country. it is what it is. the media should have covered it, asking questions pay the media should have, others should have done it. donald trump and rudy giuliani, probably not. it puts us in a bad situation. but here we are. >> jessica: the difference is what is illegal and what isn't. and what hunter biden has done, it is not illegal. you can say it stinks, that it shouldn't be that way. >> melissa: its public corruption. >> jessica: you keep repeating that, but no one has concluded that is the case. >> melissa: there's a reason it's illegal in this country to hire the children a foreign government officials. you can't do that. because then you are put in a position where you are financially beholden to another

country. there's that whole conflict of interest. there is a reason people like joe biden voted to make that illegal, and then he sends his own children overseas. there is no doubt that is public corruption. and if the trumps do it, too, it's also public corruption. that doesn't make it white don't migrate. everybody should get in trouble for it. >> harris: does the pre-existing notion, that they already have businesses but get new patents, trademarks, whatever the right term is -- >> melissa: i don't know any of that information, so -- >> jessica: it's all publicly available. >> melissa: i just haven't seen it. >> harris: does that frustrate the case, too? is it goes for is it good for the goose of the getter can make i'm asking because you studied this stuff. >> melissa: it's for voters to look at in such themselves. you have to ask yourself, how do joe biden get so wealthy? he's been in washington for 50 years. you make, what, $200,000 a year?

is worth millions and millions and millions. >> chris: he waited to cash in. >> melissa: how did that happen? >> chris: joe biden waited, rode the amtrak, and when he got out of office he did go cash in. >> melissa: in the meantime, his son was getting money hand over fist. >> jessica: in the port to note the president of united states united states america is potentially bad to be impeached for abusing the power of his office to ask a foreign power to look into his adversary. >> harris: and you could also make the argument that the front runner for the democrats, for the highest office in the land, if you should make it to the primaries, is also being looked at. >> melissa: and my point is that it's not for his political gain if he is investing corruption. you can't send my text i was somewhere that corrupt. facebook's mark zuckerberg's responding to bernie sanders comments that billionaires should not exist. we will tell you what he had to say. >> chris: [snorts] >> harris: there's little

sorting out here! >> melissa: the concern joe biden's camp may have about his latest cash all and the impact this could have on the 2020 race. ♪ saturdays happen. pain happens. aleve it. aleve is proven better on pain than tylenol. when pain happens, aleve it. all day strong.

the amount of student loan debt i have i'm embarrassed to even say i felt like i was going to spend my whole adult life paying this off

thanks to sofi, i can see the light at the end of the tunnel as of 12pm today, i am debt free ♪ not owing anyone anything is the best feeling in the world, i cannot stop smiling about it ♪

♪ >> harris: joe biden is seeing a drop in his fund-raising, as he faces new scrutiny in that ukraine controversy. the former vice president so far has run forth in the recently announced fund-raising totals for the third quarter. he's $60.2 million is behind the hauls reported by his opponents, and it's more than $6 million below what his campaign reported in the previous quarter. why is the bank tanking? tomi? >> tomi: [laughs] i think it's pretty obvious.

i think no one was really super excited about him in the first place and others just a shadow and a cloud over him. i think it's continuing to get worse. elizabeth warren should be happy. for me, as someone who doesn't want to see elizabeth warren as my president, i'm happy that she is now taking some of the spotlight. give her more chance to shine, or in this case, just speak and let the american people decide if they want to listen to that for four years. >> harris: chris, where will democrats be if they lose the front runner moderate out of the race? as he talked about socialism, we know how that goes against a generic candidate. they run typically six points behind trump next year. >> chris: are we all that nascar-conversant chimeric elizabeth warren is drafting. she needs him to see the front runner. she needs him to see the front runner, and she's not going to bump him, nudge him, do anything. she's going to stay right there.

if he goes off the track too soon, if he wrecks, there will be time for somebody like pete buttigieg to collect that support. remember, in our most recent fox news poll come in a head-to-head matchup between joe biden and elizabeth warren, he got like 70% of the vote. that's not all joe biden vote, and probably not even mostly joe biden vote. that's anti-elizabeth warren, anti-bernie sanders vote. that can go someplace else. >> harris: i know, normally nascar -- i'm all about the fashion first. [laughter] but talk about the dollars. this is not a little change. >> melissa: it is surprising to me, because i do think he sort of the moderate hope, but i do think in terms of -- money is what talks. i trust it so much more than the polls. i think people respond to polls, and they may or may not be honest.

but your money, you are like, "i don't know that this guy is going to hang in here. he's done a bunch of times but he hasn't gotten over the finish line. i want to keep my powder dry and wait longer and see who's out there." >> tomi: isn't it interesting to you that people are excited to give their money to people running as socialists? that is odd to me. just handed on over! >> jessica: i think that's about the value set they are espousing and their vision for an america that has a broader sense of equality. so i don't think -- >> harris: speaking of socialist-type policies, bernie sanders' camp is restarting his big tv ad buy for 2020 in iowa, and he says he's planning to be on the debate stage on october 15th. this after come at 70 years old, he was sidelined this week for a heart. we hope he is doing well. the campaign says he should be able to return on this we can. "bernie is up and about. yesterday he spent much of the day talking with staff about policies, cracking jokes with

the nurses and doctors, and speaking with the family on the phone. they are pleased with his progress." no word on when he will resume. >> chris: he's having the candidacy people would expect in 2016. he's got things he wants to talk about, raises a ton of grassroots money, the young people love him, and he wants to move the democratic party to the left. he's like ron paul when he used to run for a republican president a bunch of times. every four years, here is ron paul. bernie sanders is filling that role. how does his family feel , though, about people are goins after coroner incidents? is not a small thing for a 78-year-old person. >> harris: that's at the medical experts are saying. because we are not doctors. it >> chris: i mean, i'm a fake doctor. is it not a little reckless to say to somebody, "keep granting it out to come and go out there to do this," when you know he

can't win? >> melissa: i don't think he knows he can't win. i think he's really running. everybody who goes out there and spend that much time and is not enthusiastic, i bet he thinks he can win. i also think, in all sincerity, it is so much more interesting with him on the campaign trail. >> chris: i like it. >> melissa: it so much more interesting. but not even from -- i don't mean that sarcastically. he keeps the ideas, he keeps it interesting. there are those people out there. >> harris: his energy. >> melissa: they keep it lively. >> harris: i remember standing, jessica, at the dnc convention. of course it was going to be other clinton and we all knew it on that night. i wasn't far away from bernie sanders. i saw that straight line emoji reaction. he didn't want to show heartbreak, i'm sure come on the floor of the convention. but i'm sure that means a lot to them. >> jessica: it does. he has the money to go the distance. the system meeting the democratic threshold is mark obligated this time, to make

it a more level playing field. they could be more wild like in 2016. i agree with most succumb he's playing to win. go back to the fund-raising halls, i see candidates not getting strong african-american support. bringing in more money than joe biden, who is. and democrats cannot win the white house without black support. that is something i know elizabeth warren is out there making waves, she's going to south carolina all the time. all of them are showing up. but they are not connecting, certainly to older african-americans. >> harris: antjuan seawright, who of course -- >> jessica: he wrote a great piece about the blackmail black male vote. >> as a junior supporter of james clyburn in the house, our web and that has come , ours as a nation. majority would. he said she's not sure if she can get the vote and subdivided.

that means she probably wouldn't. last quick fight? >> chris: jessica is 100% right, and you are also right about what bernie could do. he could have a chip he could keep to the convention. if you get into a brokered convention and bernie sanders has got some delegates, he could end up getting some of his things on the platform. his ideas. also, by the way, he thinks he's running for president. [laughter] >> harris: your reaction from president trump as house committee chairman adam schiff faces scrutiny from his own political party overhangs or marks marks about the whistle-blower. could he have been more clear? hmm. >> we have not spoken directly with the whistle-blower. we would like to. but i'm sure the whistle-blower has concerns. ♪ 300 miles an hour, that's where i feel normal. having an annuity tells me my retirement is protected. learn more at retire your risk dot org.

but you don't feel good. with polycythemia vera, pv, symptoms can change so slowly over time you might not notice. but new or changing symptoms can mean your pv is changing. let's change the way we see pv. you track and discuss blood counts with your doctor. but it's just as vital to discuss changing symptoms as well. take notice and take action. discuss counts and symptoms with your doctor. visit takeactionpv.com hi, my name is sam davis and i'm going to tell you about exciting plans available to anyone with medicare. many plans provide broad coverage and still may save you money on monthly premiums and prescription drugs.

with original medicare, you're covered for hospital stays and doctor office visits, but you have to meet a deductible for each and then you're still responsible for 20% of the cost. next, let's look at a medicare supplement plan. as you can see, they cover the same things as original medicare and they also cover your medicare deductibles and co-insurance. but they often have higher monthly premiums and no prescription drug coverage. now, let's take a look at humana's medicare advantage plans. with a humana medicare plan, hospital stays, doctor office visits and medicare deductibles are covered. and, of course, most humana medicare advantage plans include prescription drug coverage. in fact, in 2018, humana medicare advantage prescription drug plan members saved an estimated $7400, on average, on their prescription costs. most humana medicare advantage plans help

you stay active and keep fit by including a silver sneakers fitness program at no extra cost. and, you may be able to save on dental and vision expenses, because coverage is now included with most humana medicare advantage plans. you get all this coverage for as low as a zero dollar monthly plan premium in many areas. and your doctor and hospital may already be a part of humana's large network. if you want the facts, call right now for the free decision guide from humana. there is no obligation, so call the number on your screen right now to see if your doctor is in our network; to find out if you can save on your prescriptions and to get our free decision guide. licensed humana sales agents are standing by, so call now.

♪ >> melissa: house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff

taking heat from his own party over the accuracy of his comments regarding the ukraine whistle-blower. in an interview last month, schiff failed to mention that the whistle-blower had approached his committee with concerns about president trump. instead, suggesting there was no contact. a democratic official on the panel telling fox news, "the chairman could have been more clear. he was referring to the committee officially reviewing the whistle-blower, and himself personally." all this as "the washington post" is giving schiff four pinocchios on his comments about contact with it was a boy. president trump earlier said schiff should have been given ten. chris, he is a bad messenger for these kinds of things. he just ends up muddying the waters with overreach almost. he may have a good case underneath it all, then he goes too far. i know another politician like that. 36 he's bad messenger, and this

is two unforced errors. nikki pelosi, i'm sure, was very frustrated to have schiff underperforming in this way, on the heels when he did and sarcastic interpretation of the, "he's not the record for the job." as donald rumsfeld said, you go to war with the army you have another arm you wish you had. this is put his team. she needs to do a better job to not screw this thing up. he's too good of a target for term >> jessica: i think it allows an obfuscation about what's going on. there was no doubt that he was deceptive, saying "we haven't spoken to him, close to what an aide has spoken to the whistleblower. democrats want to focus on the fact that with the dni guidance, when it was followed to a t, going to the intelligence committee can do, and they did the proper thing forwarding it over to their cig. i agree with chris' comment, the

judiciary committee struggled. from the morning versus afternoon. adam schiff does know what he's talking about. so it'll be interesting to see how it pans out. >> melissa: tomi, the problem with him is he always overpromise is what's coming. last time around, he promised that there was all this evidence that was going to be revealed, and then he didn't have -- >> tomi: he's grasping at straws. when trump supporter say "witch hunt," this is exactly what they mean. this continual charade by adam schiff, when we say "witch hunt," this is what we need perception is reality, and it doesn't look good. i think nancy pelosi is probably very frustrated. i don't think she wanted to be put in this position but she's got to do with him. i think you can see the frustration on her face. i don't think she wanted to be in this position. please also try to elevate his name i.d. that's what i see over and over again with adam schiff.

"i want to be in the news, i want the spotlight on me. i want people talking about me." >> harris: the president given a host and they came. "shifty schiff." the president handed him some name recognition. do we know yet, for reporting, why he would not have talked more specifically with the facts? i know you said he was deceptive. so i want to be careful. i don't want to call him "liar, liar, pants on fire," but his parents are smoking. [laughter] maybe there was not complete fact there. what was the point? >> chris: i won't question his motives. i don't know what was going on in his head when he said "we." if you meant to parse that, if he was an intentional, that is too cute by half and what that says is, he was afraid it was the very thing he ended up making it worse. but the president was going to say that he was in league with these democrats.

none of which is true. >> harris: how he comes out and denies everything. >> chris: so schiff made it worse. if he thought that clintonian "we" is in the front and that doesn't count, that -- >> harris: meaning "we," not "me." >> chris: the royal we. [laughter] it doesn't wash. through all of this stuff, it's been a little too cutesy. he ought to tend to his knitting. >> harris: do you think nancy pelosi is telling him that? >> jessica: to push back on your perspective of adam schiff wanting the limelight and being in a position they don't want to be in, when we got the readout or the memorandum of the call, which had invented the phrase -- even though kevin mccarthy doesn't remember -- "do me a favor, though," and the testimony from kurt volker, there is ample evidence of what democrats are alleging, which is

an abuse of power, a constitutional violation and in a an impeachable offense. i think she's been honest. "i don't want to do this to the evidence in the facts are there for this." i know that gets ripped into the timing with adam schiff and when the whistleblower complaint came to the intelligence committee, but the facts are there for this. i think nancy pelosi has seen such a surge in support, especially for members working on the intelligence committee, that she's happy moving forward with this. >> melissa: on the point of schiff, impeachment is political. it's not legal. i've heard so many experts say it comes onto public opinion, and he's not helping public opinion when he's getting pinocchios. that's the problem. facebook's mark zuckerberg was asked about bernie sanders' comments that billionaires shouldn't exist. he is the fifth richest person in the world. >> harris: buy another shirt! [laughter] >> melissa: what he had to say, that's coming up. [laughs] ♪

♪ 'cos i know what it means ♪ to walk along the lonely street of dreams ♪ ♪ here i go again on my--- you realize your vows are a whitesnake song? i do. if you ride, you get it. geico motorcycle. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. i have moderate to severe pnow, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer, yeah i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin ♪ yeah that's all me. ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin ♪ that's my new plan. ♪ nothing is everything. keep your skin clearer with skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. of those, nearly 9 out of 10 sustained it through 1 year. and skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. ♪ i see nothing in a different way ♪

♪ and it's my moment so i just gotta say ♪ ♪ nothing is everything skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms such as fevers, sweats, chills, muscle aches or coughs, or if you plan to or recently received a vaccine. ♪ nothing is everything ask your dermatologist about skyrizi. ♪ the final horn doesn't have to mbecause with nhl center ice on xfinity

you get up to 40 out-of-market games per week. and with the all-new xfinity sports zone, you get everything nhl all in one place, even notifications about your favorite teams. watch every barn burner, barreling check, and all the top shelf action. plus get instant access to your teams with the power of your voice. that's simple, easy, awesome. say nhl center ice into your voice remote to check out a free preview. don't miss out.

♪ >> melissa: billionaire facebook ceo, mark zuckerberg, weighing in on 2020 democrat bernie sanders' recent assertion that billionaires should not exist.

here is what zuckerberg told employees at some level. listen. >> no one deserves to have that much money. that's not, like --dash i think if you do something that's good, you get rewarded, but i do think some of these -- some of the wealth that can be accumulated is unreasonable. >> melissa: but he says being a billionaire lets him dominate -- oh, sorry. [laughter] >> jessica: dominate philanthropy! is free to donate to philanthropic causes like medical research, where he said billionaires make advancements possible. he is reportedly worth more than $66 billion. >> harris: let me yield you my time. melissa? >> melissa: year and it! he earned it. >> harris: this is america. capitalism.

the two he didn't start with anything. he had an idea, he built it. he earned it. yc apologizing for it? >> tomi: a funny thing to me as bernie sanders says no one should be a billionaire, but he says we should send that money to d.c. so the bureaucrats and politicians should spend your money, because you didn't deserve it. you didn't build that, you didn't earn it. it's easy for them to say, was also worth a lot of money. and it's easy to say , that no one was confiscated. should we take all over $66 billion then, and you can live in a tent like people i see los angeles? i bet he wouldn't do it, just a thought. >> chris: always in the face of wanting to be regulated. when you're growing, when you're starting, when silicon valley gets going, you say "we want no limits." they are all libertarians. they are all peter if you out there. " let it rip." then you pull the ladder up on yourself.

that's why facebook wants to be regulated for content. they are dying to be regulated. that's what he wants more regulation, because he's already got his money. "yeah, i'm responsible billionaire, but we need to be careful about this other stuff." is a phenomenon that happens in industry after industry, generation after generation. people who get rich and want to break the game so they stay rich but other people can't catch them. >> melissa: and want to clarify before come to you, when we said "at some level," that was part of the quote. "at some level, you don't deserve to have all that money." i don't know if it makes a difference. >> jessica: a number of billionaires have spoken to that issue. that we should be taxed more, that i don't want to envision a world without bill gates. without warren buffett. the life survey of change because of that. if you do something like invent the computer, i'm cool with you being a billionaire. as long as we have a fair system

of taxation and distribution that ensures that we don't have people living so far below the poverty line and in the richest nation in the world. i shouldn't be taxed less than my assistants. >> melissa: which is interesting, because he's the champion of taking advantage of tax law. he does it completely illegally, but he's welcome to read a much bigger check. he knows he is more efficient than all of these guys that philanthropy and giving away their money. and does so much better versus the leaky sieve of the government. giving a big wrap there. do you have more? >> harris: i told you, i give you all my time! i knew you were so passionate! speech of the candidates are just like us! beto o'rourke sharing his flu shot with the world. the reaction? not too kind! oh, boy... ♪ [ applause ] thank you.

it's an honor to tell you that liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. i love you! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ create up to 12 combinations with applebee's new pasta and grill combos starting at $9.99. and get more bites for your buck with our late night half-priced apps. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.

(past them because she didn't sknow they were talking to her.g and she would just walk right (deborah) i just could not hear. i was hesitant to get the hearing aids because of my short hair, but nobody even sees them. (avo) our nearly invisible hearing aids are just one reason we've been the brand leader for over 70 years. (deborah) when i finally could hear for the first time, i started crying. i could hear everything. (avo) get special anniversary savings and your chance to win a seven day hawaiian cruise. call 1-800-miracle today.

what might seem like a small cough can be a big bad problem for your grandchildren. babies too young to be vaccinated against whooping cough are the most at risk for severe illness. help prevent this! talk to your doctor or pharmacist today about getting vaccinated against whooping cough.

>> take a deep breath. okay? take a deep breath. >> jessica: maybe beto o'rourke should have kept this to himself. he's facing a new round of mockery after posting an awkward instagram video of himself getting a flu shot. it's not the first time he's been roasted over videos like this. he got some of the reaction after posting clips of himself and the dentist chair and getting a haircut and changing a tire. the flu shot drug reactions like this on twitter. "this changes everything. beto is so relatable!" he's not alone, though. elizabeth warren unleashed a wave of social media mockery on mockery on new year's eve when she popped open a beer on instagram. chris, i will go to you on this. i remember the mockery about elizabeth warren, and i said, "this doesn't matter." and she is almost the front runner. people are trying to be relatable and charismatic and all the things that that -- how do you think she ended up

where she is pulling with democrats? it's not because we like her haircut. >> chris: she is, in fact, the best-like democrat. democrats like her, even people supporting other people. she has the highest favorability score of any democrat. but here's the difference -- difference -- beto o'rourke is trying so hard, all of the time. holy it's never filled each is staring into the abyss. open love me, love me, love me." it's too much of it makes him a pitiful creature. >> harris: [laughs] >> chris: elizabeth warren did seem funny that beer video. did you see the video with her husband? >> jessica: he has great legs! >> chris: he has great legs, no doubt. >> jessica: she said it first. >> chris: she is a nerd on purpose. her brand is nerddom and beto's

brand's neediness. >> tomi: is an acronym for president where the candy for the democrats. what he should look into is what many on the "bachelor" series have done. sell fab fit fund boxes, host the election, or do something with tiktoks. make little videos. >> melissa: i bet he has his own show. >> tomi: it's for you. >> jessica: i would like him to run for john cornyn's seat. >> melissa: do you think he has a political life after this? he has stimulated himself. >> jessica: i don't think you should have run for president. >> chris: nope. >> jessica: in the first place. >> melissa: but i would be surprised at the showed up as a host of a cable -- you know, political opinion show. >> jessica: like a "cross fire" type thinking back >> melissa: contributor, crossing over. we certainly seen that happen. in a lot of places, no? >> tomi: i'm thinking "the

real world." " "dancing with the stars." [laughter] >> chris: the alleged charisma of his senate run was not for real. >> jessica: we have to go. thank you for coming. >> chris: my privilege. >> jessica: come back very soon. we are back monday at noon eastern. now, here's harris. >> harris: let's begin with a fox news alert. new pushback from president trump on house democrats' impeachment inquiry. this is "outnumbered overtime" on a friday. and harris faulkner. very busy. president trump confirming today he plans to send a letter to house speaker nancy pelosi. he is warning the white house will not comply with democrat investigation into the whole household the former vote approving the inquiry watch. >> we will be issuing a letter. as everyone knows, we have been treated unfairly. if you go over not only history, you go over any aspect of life, you will see.