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this, the obvious, and trying to fix it. for once, americans are coming home from a middle eastern tar pit rather than staying forever, and we ought to be celebrating that. across the country, people are, but in washington, people are apoplectic. they are telling us we are not allowed to leave syria, it's immoral, they say. it's a betrayal. not a betrayal of americans, that wouldn't be a problem here in washington. it happens here every day. it's much worse than that. it's a betrayal of an ethnic group in the mountainous parts of southwest asia called the kurds. what exactly do the people on tv know about kurds? nothing, really. it would be shocking if anyone at msnbc had ever met occurred, and yet suddenly today everyone washington seems thoroughly outraged on my behalf. >> it's psychotic, it makes no sense. you can go to the slaughter at the hands of turkey. i'm washing my hands of. >> what is the message to

abandoning the syrian kurds who have fought so valiantly for the u.s.? >> now it seems if the u.s. is hanging them out to dry. >> being betrayed by those who help them. >> i just wonder where his u.s. credibility in the region, both its friends and his adversaries after abandoning the kurds again? >> tucker: would love to tell you it was just a lefty hacks on cnn demanding that we stay in syria forever, but unfortunately it was not, not even close. a ton of republicans on capitol hill made exactly the same point. mitt romney did, so did pat toomey of pennsylvania, ben sasse of nebraska. even mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader. all of them seemed far and we are about the prospect of leaving syria than they ever do about illegal immigration or americans dying of sentinel ods. some of the angry senators cited vladimir putin as if it were somehow 1982 again and russia was the preeminent threat to american interests. the professional neocons, not

surprisingly, there are a lot of them here, when completely bonkers, wilder even than they usually are. former speechwriter for bush suggested that president trump must be paying off turkey for covering up jamal khashoggi's murder in the saudi consulate in istanbul. wow. provided no evidence that this was true, but no one in washington asked for any evidence. they were too busy nodding along an agreement, yes, watch senator lindsey graham of south carolina for example get so worked up by the idea of americans leaving a foreign war zone, one thing that's never allowed, but he forgets to make any sense at all. >> if i didn't see donald trump's name on the tweet, i thought it was with the obama's rationale for getting out of iraq. so here's what's going to happe happen. this is going to lead to isis reemergence. nothing better for isis than to create a conflict between the kurds and turkey. the kurds will now align with assad because they have nobody to count on because we abandoned them, so this is a big win or

iran and assad, big win for isi isis. >> tucker: whatever politicians in washington tell you they know exactly what's going to happen, be sure not to bet on it. but more deeply, think about it for a second, assad and isis and iran, for that matter, are on different sides of the conflict, so how can an american withdrawal be a win for both sides? that actually doesn't make any sense at all. he didn't explain how that might work, he turned down our offer to come on site so we can only guess. nikki haley meanwhile strongly agrees with grant after resigning as u.n. ambassador, took a job on the board of directors of boeing, the airplane manufacturer. three months ago charge he suggested they may back out of a $10 million deal with boeing to buy jets for turkish airlines. today, perhaps not quintanilla, she tweeted this, "we must always have the backs of our allies if we expect them to have our back. at the kurds were instrumental in our successful fight against isis and syria. leaving him to die is a big mistake. #turkeyisnotourfriend .

turkey is not our friend? that's a surprise to those of us who have been paying attention. it was barely a year ago that official washington -- i mean everybody was outraged. they were savaging the president for the crime of undermining nato. the atlantic is one example, ran the semi. trump's biggest gift to putin's questioning nato, just questioning nato was totally for putin. it was a sin and people like nikki haley strongly agreed with that. but here's the weird thing, the kurds are part of nato because there is no curtis tan turkey is part of nato, they are one of our fabled nato allies. that means we are bound by treaty to defend the turks if they are attacked. indeed, at this very moment you may not know this, turkey is hosting about 50 american nuclear weapons, so does that make turkey our friend or our enemy? washington can't decide. the only point that everyone here can agree on is that the interests of foreigners are far more important than our own interests. it is immoral, they are telling

us, to look out for our own people, but it is virtuous to suffer for others, particularly for those who hate us. hundreds of thousands of americans died from drugs manufactured by our enemies abroad. mexico and china. how do our leaders respond? they shrugged. they couldn't care less. if they do nothing. and then turkey threatens to invade northern syria, a place not one in a thousand americans could find on a map, and guess what that is? at the historic crisis and lindsey graham won't stand for it. what you're looking at is a set of priorities so mindless, so perverse and distorted there is in fact no fixing them. in the end, the only solution may be the obvious one, recoat dominic relocate the kurds to youngstown, ohio. only then will washington finally care. doug mcgregor is a retired u.s. army colonel, author of the book "margin of victory" and maybe the wisest voice on foreign policy that we know and on nights like this we are always great fun. what do you make of the response

to the president's announcement? >> welcome of the swamp is clearly very disturbed, because the president has done something that i have not witnessed in the last 30 years. he's actually injecting strategy back into american foreign and defense policy. let me explain. he's turned to the turkish president, who's been trying to carve out a portion of syria now for a very long time. remember he is also partially responsible for standing up isis. then isis turned out to be a frankenstein's monster if you decided it needed to be brought under control. now he wants to resettle sunni arab refugees in northwestern syria and create a kind of security zone for turkish interests. but he's also simultaneously told him you can do this, but now you are responsible for dealing with isis if isis rears its head. if it comes back, it's your problem. this is a very important point. the president has shifted the burden of responsibility for

something that is clearly regional, clearly goes back to turkey to him. at the same time, russia has promised to maintain the territorial integrity of syria, come what may. how is russia going to deal with the president who has decided to carve out a piece of syria for his own purposes to make and then we have iran. iran wants to maintain its connectivity to lebanon and its shiite allies in that country but with the turks dominating northern syria, iran now is going to be unable or at least will find it far, far more difficult to connect with lebanon. the point is, the president has checkmated all of the key players in the region in syria. now they must confront each other for a change. >> tucker: wait a second here, you're leaving out a key point and the one i've been hearing all day long on the loop on television, which is really our only allies in the world, the kurds of syria. what about them? everybody on television basically spent 12 hours today

in a kind of tribute to the syrian kurds. >> before we arrived the communist kurds in northern syria who have a long history and a close relationship with moscow as a result, were always interested and allying themselves with anyone that would further their cause when their cause involves independence for themselves from syria and also attacks against the turks, whom they regard as enemies. in their absence, the kurds know how to make a decision. do we make a piece with damascus, which is what the russians have told them to do, which is what we have privately told them to do, which is what the syrian government would like them to do? or to the kurds decide to take on the turks independently? i rather think of the syrian kurds will decide it's probably in their interest to side with damascus, so once we pull out, i think we will see that happen. but here is something else, israel benefits from this because iran is now at loggerheads with turkey.

iran is interested in connecting to hezbollah. the russians have no interest in turning syria into a platform for attack against israel, so the russians and the iranians who are checkmated by the turks, now the turks and all three of these people have to deal with the reality that israel and the united states benefiting from our withdrawal. >> tucker: that's not at all what nikki haley said in her tweet but i think you make a persuasive case and i think i believe you. great to see you tonight. >> great to see you. you and thank you very much. former state department official spent a lot of time in the region and joins us tonight. i know that you're a big believer in multinational organizations, particularly in nato. if you've defended it on this program and fax turkey is one of our nato allies, our sacred nato allies whose defense we are now obligated to provide if necessary, you're telling us that we need to take the side of turkey's enemy. how does that work?

>> just because turkey is a member of nato doesn't mean it's always doing the thing that we want, the u.s. wants or that nato wants. in this case it's doing exactly the opposite of what nato wants. it's been doing that for a long time. if you watch what's happening with turkey for instance, is now accepting rockets from russia. this is something the u.s. did not want and also nato did not want and it compromises nato security. >> tucker: so you're saying that our job is to arm, with weapons of war, as the democrats describe them, the opponent, the mortal opponent of our nato ally and get if turkey is attacked, we are obligated under the treaty to defend turkey? >> but turkey is not being attacked in the alley you're talking about -- tapping tax. >> tucker: turkey is absolutely in a state of conflict with the kurds. >> the sdf is a force of moderate kurds and of moderate arabs in syria formed in part with the part of my cup of the u.s., that u.s. special forces are fighting alongside with

against isis. we would not have defeated isis in syria without the help of the sdf. and a u.s. soldier that has served in syria will tell you that. that's why the department of defense -- >> tucker: i'm asking you a broader question. i think a lot of what you're saying is open to debate, for sure, but what's not open to debate is that our nato ally, turkey, and we are supposed to revere our nato allies from estonia on down, very much including turkey, think that the kurds that we are arming our its opponent, so how does this nato thing work? trump is evil because he questioned nato. but now you're undermining -- >> logic here. just because they're part of an alliance we are part of, that's an important alliance, doesn't mean we agree with everything they do. they do lots of things we don't agree with. we went off the kurds attack its demo we have to defend his temple against them, correct? >> the cards are not going to attack his temple. >> tucker: therapy and all kinds of -- there have been a

lot of terror attacks within turkey committed by kurds, occluding some of the kurds that we have armed. why are we bound to take turkey aside? >> when kurds engage in terrorism, we do take their side so many instances where the it's demonstrated that the pkk, the kurdish separatist group in eastern turkey, has engaged in terrorism, we have sided with turkey. in fact, we've labeled the pkk a terrorist organization but the sdf is not a terrorist organization. they are fighting right alongside our special forces in any u.s. special forces soldier at at the display in the trenches with them will tell you that and you need to talk to them this is why -- >> they actually don't get to make -- i'm sorry, they don't get to make our policy. civilian control of the military, thank god and i know the democrats would be happy to undo that for the time being, but it would be wrong. the president has the support of the public behind us and why not acknowledge that most americans don't see any vital interest in syria, because there isn't one? >> here's the point, the president made this decision

yesterday after a call with president air to one. >> tucker: has been talked about this for three years and the neocon wackos like you have successfully -- >> let me finish. he made no attempt to hide the fact that he was directly influenced by him. he made this decision against the advice of every single senior u.s. military official. >> tucker: the one who have kept us >> fox news have been reporting -- how shocked are dod officials. who do you trust? >> tucker: i will tell you i don't trust, the people who have kept us in afghanistan for 18 years. they should be ashamed, some should be in jail, i mean that. good to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: just before the weekend began news emerged of a second anonymous whistle-blower making allegations about the president's phone call with ukraine. to sort out exactly what this is, catherine herridge joins us now. >> thank you. tonight fox news can confirm that on july 26, 1 after the president's phone call with ukraine leader, the first whistle-blower wrote a two page single-spaced memo to themselves

documenting secondhand information from a white house official. "the following is a record of a conversation i had this afternoon with a white house official about the telephone call yesterday morning between president trump and ukrainian president zelensky." using dramatic land which i'm told, which is worth contrasting with the publicly released transcript from the white house, the whistle-blower writes "the officials describe the july 25th call us crazy, frightening, and completely lacking in substance related to national security" and there's a key section about this transcript of the call. some critics initially called it a summary or notes that in the memo, the first whistle-blower suggests it is a complete record that the standard practice is for "the white house situation room to produce a worker were transcript that memorializes the call." after questions were raised last week about the first whistle-blower's contact with stafford democratic chairman adam schiff before the complaint was officially filed, the whistle-blower's lawyer said over the weekend it confirmed

second whistle-blower does possess first-hand nozzle atomic knowledge of certain information. there is no legal requirement for any whistle-blower to have such knowledge. law only requires a reasonable belief. fox news asked the legal team for comment on the first whistle-blower's memo, though they have not responded to our recent questions about their clients democratic political connections, trucker. >> tucker: hope they do. >> me too. i will bring it to you. we want to know that you will, the best. thank you so much. washington is panicking over the president's latest efforts to create a rational foreign policy with ukraine impeachment effort trudges forward. you've heard endlessly on cable news it's unprecedented that the president would seek political gain from a conversation with a foreign leader. it turns out it's happened before. back in 2000, we can report, president bill clinton had a conversation with tony blair of the u.k. and asked him directly to intercede in a dispute between british airways and american carriers. the president at the time was much more direct and

president trump was in his conversation with the ukrainian leader. this is bill clinton back then. i'm quoting. "in a political season, it would be big over here to get this open sore resolved. if you could have somebody take a look at it, he asked." tony blair responded that he would. is this a big deal? not really. is it nakedly political? is in an effort to use a foreign country to influence the outcome of an election in a presidential year? yes, it is, obviously. incidentally, it did not take us long to find the transcript from will interdict her old clinton transcripts for about 15 minutes. they are all caps, they are all in line. probably a lot more examples and if we find that we will bring them to you but the point is anyone commenting on this, anyone staring at the screen, and there are countless people who fit the description and telling you this is never happened before, it's outrageou outrageous. none of them took the time to check because whatever they're

telling you that something is without precedent, you can be certain, it happens every day here. washington is of course totally addicted to impeachment over the ukraine scandal. on msnbc, a contributor spun a wild fantasy where in fact in the end, nancy pelosi could become president. watch this. >> you could impeach pants first. the problem is that donald trump been asked to name his replacement, but i think that maybe a deal could be struck where he was told if you don't make a replacement, then nancy pelosi does become president and so you are going to be impeached and convicted, you need to make this replacement so that the proper party remains in power. >> tucker: who are these people? i mean, just a plea to tv bookers, before you put some on the air -- people are watching this! people on treadmills across the country are listening and saying

what what is a person saying? try to make sure that the person you have on the screen knows what he or she is talking about, it's kind of credible, and then saying. how about that as a baseline requirement? this is fantasy, as you know. the entire ukraine saga is starting to resemble another fake scandal, the character assassination of justice brett kavanaugh. former state department official in the whistle-blower, he joins us tonight. so, peter, we've been at this for a little over two weeks now, the ukraine story. i don't think of you is especially partisan. what's your assessment? do we know more now than we did two weeks ago and enough to justify impeachment? are you starting to think this is a real story or no? >> essentially the first complaint surface the phone call. the full transcript is available online, anyone can read it and it's clearly not crazy or frightening. it clearly doesn't represent any

kind of demand for political quid pro quo or anything along those lines. what we've seen however is some very clever teeing up of information and kind of a three-way pitch and toss between the democrats, the media, and what's going on with this so-called whistle-blower. now there's a cycle stomach second whistle-blower that we are led to believe is added to e narrative but i think what is emerging as the second whistle-blower is actually the source for the first whistle-blower, which means it's all the same thing. now, this is different than in the kavanaugh case where they set michael avenatti out to find additional victims wherever he could. in this case, there's other lawyers who have taken time off chasing ambulances to get on twitter and play up their second whistle-blower, but in fact he is simply the source for the first whistle-blower. the cia -- this is an old trick, it's called a feedback loop and essentially what you do is you set up one of her sources to back up another source and you

make it appear that your initial source is more credible by feeding information into the loop. if that's what seems to be going on here. they are repurchasing a witness as a second whistle-blower. >> tucker: it does have a hallmark of that, thank you for pointing that -- i was trying to think i'm watching this. since we have the transcript of course, all of this is kind of superfluous. but i'm watching, what does this remind me of? and that's exactly right. it is a feedback loop. thanks so much. >> we saw that, thank you. >> tucker: exactly. elizabeth warren spent years lying about her ethnicity in order to scan the affirmative action system. now another lie about her early life has been exposed, reminiscent of the first. it's a booth investigates after the break. plus mark steyn is here tonight. we will be right back. ♪

♪ >> tucker: for decades elizabeth warren pretended to be an american indian in order to game our affirmative action system. but it turns out it might be something of a trend. warren has repeatedly claimed that she was fired from her first job forom getting pregnan. another level in which she claims she was a victim but no evidence suggests that was a lie too. she's actually is entitled as she seems. lisa boothe is a senior fellow at independent women's boys and she joins us tonight with an update on the story. >> so at the heart of elizabeth warren's stump speech is the story about gender discrimination. she was a young special-needshe teacher at riverdale elementary school, she was fired because she was visibly pregnant by her male principle. listen to what she's been saying

on the campaign trail. >> i wasn visibly pregnant and the principal did what principals did in those days, wished me luck and hired someone else for the job. >> i was visibly pregnant. and the did what principals did in those days, wished me luck and hired someone else for the job. >> i was visibly pregnant. wish me luck and hired someone else for the job. >> i was visibly pregnant.re wished me luck and hired someone else for the job. >> i was visibly pregnant. he wished me luck and hired someone else for the job. >> so obviously a terrible story if true, but the problem is there's been video that has surfaced in 2007 where she told a different story. >> i worked -- it was in a public school system, but i worked with the children with disabilities and i did that for

a year and then that summer, i actually didn't have the education courses, so i was on an emergency certificate, it was called. c and i went back to graduate school and took a couple of courses in education and i don't think this is going to work out for me. and i was pregnant with my first baby, so i had a baby and stayed home for a couple of years and i was really casting about thinking what am i going to do? >> so in addition to this video that clearly contradicts the story she's been telling on the campaign trail, "the washington free beacon" reported that the riverdale board of education actually voted to extend a second year contracton to her ad that they were disappointed when she resigned and said that they accepted it with regret, regret. >> tucker: that's shocking. >> is it though? >> tucker: what you have here is a pattern of someone who's been successful and, by the way, she has been successful.

she's a u.s. senator, but rather than say i've been successful, she has climbed repeatedly to be the victim of discrimination. she clearly has a need to see herself as a victim and to lie about it. >> absolutely this comes at a time where she is clearly surging, where she has emerged as the front runner in the iowa caucus and new hampshireas primary. what's interesting is 5:30 eight's nate silver was saying today that the story is not being picked up by the p mainstream media, which is actually to the detriment of democratic voters, because she's going to head and potentially to a general election where she's not really been impressed by the media, where she's not going to have to answer these tough questions and at times where she has she released a video after being called pocahontas telling americans that she's actually less native american than the average l white person, or in interviews where she's been even remotely oppressed, she's completely foundered and being able to answer why she lied to us for so many years about being native american, and she has not been pressed on this. >> tucker: and how her b parents were not allowed to get married because one of them was an indian -- i think i'm much more

native american than she has. >> i probably am too. >> tucker: lisa boothe, great to see her tonight. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: hillary clinton it has not, as you -- spent the past three years on a worldwide excuses to her. now she's stepped up our game. hillary isn't just telling her that her 2016 defeat wasn't her fault, it was the fault of faracist and sexist, now she's saying she didn't actually lose at all. donald trump is an illegitimate president. >> in the 2016 election, trump basically said russia, if you're listening, you will be richly rewarded if you can find hillary clinton's emails. and of course we know the russians hacked the dnc, hacked my campaign, et cetera. trump knows he's an illegitimate president got illegitimate foreign help. >> tucker: author and columnist mark steyn joins us tonight. so trump isn't really the

president, i think that's what she's saying. >> yeah. yeah. and there is a logic to this then that if he is anhi illegitimate president, the only way we can correct this is by hillary jumping in the race and claiming what is already rightfully hers in 2020. and i don't know about you, but elizabeth warren looks heavily pregnant to me,el visibly pregnant, andis it's time for hr to step aside and give the job to hillary. that's the logic. that is the logic of what hillary is saying. now if only she had fought the election campaign as tenaciously and obstinately as she's fought the three years since the election campaign. she would be president. there would be -- no one has ever seen anything -- this is what is so spectacular and impressive about it.

if only she'd been that way on election -- i think we need to tie up all the big stories on the show tonight. you know, she was blaming, as you know, she blamed the macedonian content farmers were delivering the united states election to president trump. we've taken lindsey graham's boots off the ground in syria and he and mitt romney at all the rest of the gang are mad about it. i think we need boots on the ground -- i think these macedonian content farmers could use a little bit of shock and awe. that's where the boots on the ground should be. >> tucker: i totally agree. in ten seconds, is she getting in the race or not do you think you might >> i think she wants to be invited. she feels she's already president and she wants them to -- she lost last time because she thought it was a coronation and she wants them to hand her the crown again. >> tucker: i totally agree with you. as i always do. great to see you tonight, thank you. >> thanks a lot. >> tucker: at the nba is proud to push our left politics in this country, and they often do,

but at the same time, t they alw no criticism of china's fascist government. that tells you everything you need to know about the real beliefs, that's next. ♪

>> tucker: that we live in the age of woke capital, and that means it's no longer enough for a company to sell your product you want to buy, they sell you a worldview whether you want it or not some google lectures about diversity, starbucks tells you you're a racist and the nba is no exception to this rule. the league moved to the 2016 all-star game out of north carolina, for example, because of the state's policy on transgender bathrooms, a policy that the voters of north carolina ratified. it doesn't matter. nba players regularly make left-wing clinical statements on the league approves of that but it turns out there's a limit to freedom of speech over there and basketball world. over the weekend, houston rockets general manager daryl morey tweeted support for the pro-democracy protesters in hong kong. that implied criticism of tran's

fascist government and that was too much for the nba. his tweet was deleted and the nba immediately groveled to china's a authoritarian american-hating leaders. the league issued an apology, making it clear that he did not represent the nra. he may support freedom and democracy but thehe nba certainy does not. j.d. vance is the author of hillbilly elegy one of the clearest thinkers on modern politics. he joins us tonight. what does this tell us about the nba and woke capital were generally? >> well you know, some of the examples you highlighted, starbucks picking sides in american politics, target picking sides withinin american politics, these companies positions might be stupid, but they can at least say they are choosing the side of political interest. in the case of china, whether with apple helping the chinese security state, whether it's hollywood bowing down before china, or in this case, the nba bowing down t before china, thee companies can't even claim that

they are defending an american value for an american interest and i thinkor one of the thingst tells us is that american business interests, if they see the almighty dollar in the hands of a foreign rival, they will go and chase it even if it's not in the best interest of their own country. >> tucker: and not the best interest. i mean, this is our preeminent rival, enemy, actually, i think from their perspective, on the world stage, a country that's about to overtake us economically and militarily. siding with them seems like a profound betrayal. >> it's a profound betrayal in a couple of different ways. the first is what you mention. i think we are in a geopolitical struggle with china unlike anything we've seen since at least the early 1930s with germany. we are not yet at physical war and hopefully of course we don't ever go to war with china, but we are in a struggle really for global preeminence with this country and they have ambitions to be a global superpower. that is necessarily going to take them in competition with us. the other way that this is a

really significant betrayal of american values is that china actively does so many of the things that the left says that it hates about our own country. you want to talk about islamic persecution. the chinese are running actual concentration camps for some of its islamic population in china. you want to talk about treating gender minorities fairly, which is the favorite topic of the left these days, go try to find a transgender bathroom in china. go tryry to find a two gender bathroom in the state of china. they are actively doing things that people in this country say that they hate and violate their political beliefs. course, when republicans do it, if the target of criticism, but when the chinese do it, people seem to be okay with the violation of core values and of course, as you probably know, the most egregious hypocrisy on this front is climate change. if you actually buy the argument that co2 emissions are causing global climate change, the worst

offender by far today and in the future is china. there is a reason that climate change activists go after americans and american consumers but they don't go after china, and it makes it pretty clear that it hast nothing to do with climate change, it has to do with frankly taking the side of a really vile regime over the interest of our own country. >> tucker: and they know that we are so self hating that can control us. they can bully us into submission but the chinese don't hate themselves, do they? >> no, they don't, that's one of the craziest things about china, is whether it's chinese nationals who are living in america or western europe, whether it's folks who maybe go on a student visa and then come back, what's pretty clear is that china is very good at ensuring that its own citizens actually love the country and i don't think there's a whole lot that's especially lovable about the chinese nation these days, but they are very good at making their own citizens patriotic anm unfortunately we have a country that has a lot to be -- we have a lot to be proud of in america

but unfortunately a lot of folks don't think that this country is something to be proud of, and when you are in a global geopolitical struggle or one nation is afraid of it's own shadow and the other nation is a proud of itself, it's not too difficult to imagine which nation is going to win and i think because of this, just one really important point in all of this is that we have to be willing to push back against this stuff using political power. you know i'm a republican, but one of the things i don'ton like about the republican party d the days is that we are afraid of actually using political power. there are things that we couldan do to push back against these companies that are taking the side of china over america. we could go after their stadium subsidies, but what happened last time we had significant political power? the very same companies that are taking the side of china over americans and american consumers got a big tax break. we can't keep doing this. we can keep shooting ourselves in the foot. >> tucker: 's masochism and it's terrible for the country, i couldn't agree more.

j.d. vance, always great to hear from you, thank you very much. >> thanks. >> tucker: so that is the world we live in. it's a rivalry between the united states and china.ed flat out, there's no denying that, and get for years against that backdrop joe biden has downplayed the threat that china poses to the united states. only in the last few months as he tries to become president has he at least pretended to care about china. >> china is going to eat our lunch. come on, man. they are not bad folks, folks, but guess what? they're not competition for us. >> while trump is tweeting china is making massive investments in new technologies. and artificialin intelligence. >> you bet i'm worried about china. when it comes to taking on china, first let's invest in america. >> tucker: does anyone really believe that though? china recently walked out of trade negotiations with the president. one possible reason they are expecting a better deal from the next guy. maybe president biden.

orton chang is the author of the coming collapse of china lee joins us tonight. so gordon, if you're china, you're looking at a pretty clear choice. or you have, for whatever his flaws, donald trump is the only president in recent american history who has challenged chinese -- called china out on a bunch of different issues and then you've got everyone else, so aren't you rooting for everybody else? >> they certainly are. you have to go back to eisenhower to find an american president who had as robust a policy as president trump does in the chinese look at trump and they don't like them for two reasons. first of all, it's because he's hammering them day in, day out. also because he's unpredictable. they can't figure out what he's going to do next. they like sort of the establishment view in the u.s. where we try to engage the chinese. they can figure out what we are trying to do. trump says i'm not doing that. >> tucker: so why wouldn't they, being the chinese, and of course looking after their own interests is the first concern,

only concern, and being unscrupulous, why wouldn't they work to defeat him in the coming election? >> i think they are. if they looked at the impeachment inquiry right now and they have coming in -- they are going to come into washington on thursday for the 13th round of talks. they have signaled in the last couple days they are just not going to talk about the core issues that u.s. negotiators demand that we discussed, so i think it's because they look at trump and they say he might not be here. we saw a really good glimpse of this in march when the special counsel robert mueller hinted that there was going to be no charges of g collusion, that the was nothing there. the chinese and their trade talks with us immediately became conciliatory because then they said president trump might actually be here after 2020, so they are looking very closely at what's going on in the u.s. in this impeachment inquiry is affecting i think their negotiating position, making them much tougher than they ordinarily would be. >> tucker: that's fascinating, but not surprising if you think about it.

thank you so much for that. >> thank you. >> tucker: politics is supposed to be the one place in academia that is politics-free because numbers don't have political opinions. changing.at's some public schools are working to make certain that math is woke. our investigation into that, next. ♪ what are you doing back there, junior?

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>> tucker: a radical ideology and dumbness has infused our education system from top to bottom, english, reading, social studies, all of them are almost worthless thanks to the political agenda that has distorted them but mathematics stands alone as a clean discipline, it's abstract, it's rational. it can be political, by

definition. yes it can. seattle's public school district has produced a tentative ethnic studies framework for studying mathematics. this won't teach kids long division. nobody learns anything in the middle of the revolution, as you may have noticed if you have a kid. they are not learning anything. instead, kids will learn in math class that math itself is subjective and has historically been used by the west, by you, to oppress the poor and racial minorities. radio show host in seattle joins us tonight. i hope to soothe our concerns and tell us the story is not real. is it? >> i wish i could. no, it's absolutely real. the state legislature basically said you have to come up with this committee to look at frameworks to teach ethnic studies at public schools and they went around the state, they spoke to folks about how they teach math. they decided for some reason to look at math as an avenue to explore ethnic studies. they met for the first time last

week, they put out this document with all of the ideas and questions that they wanted to pose. again, coming from actual educators right now within the state, and the document, which i have, it's legitimately troubling and insane because at one point they go trying to look at the power structure it was using this to oppress, which i'm assuming math is being used to oppress white cisgendered heterosexual christian males, who gets to see if an answer is right? well, it's math. we know that for example two plus two equals four and not five and someone says five and you call them outou apparently, according to these guidelines you might be oppressing that individual. >> tucker: so why are people -- this is french revolution assault on reality type stuff. presumably -- not presumably, there are a lot of normal people in washington, good people,ri right-wingers who believe in reality, where the putting up with this? why isn't there just like a full-scale protest but the man's anyone who supports this to

leave immediately? seriously? >> and i'm asking myself that same question because the people who have seen this document who are progressive, and they'ress openly progressive, they are embarrassed by it. so the question is why are they actually doing something about q it? maybe this is going to push them in a direction but the problem is when you call it anything having to do with social justice or woke culture in seattle, you get called out immediately and you are ashamed and bullied into submission and unfortunately that happens way too often here. >> tucker: there are very few brave people and liberals can't say no. people defecate on the sidewalk in front of their house and it's like i don't know. i can't -- do you know what i mean? that's why liberal places are dirty and disorganized despite the best intentions always. >> i hope so many people call this out.th we are trying to save our stay. you've got to win in seattle first, that's been historically a problem for progressives and for obviously conservatives. >> tucker: good luck, such a beautiful place. and q, good to see you.

>> thank you. >> tucker: for weeks, ilhan omar has faced allegations that she had an extramarital affair. but we can tell you omar is now getting a divorce from her husband. trace gallagher will explain next. ♪

>> tucker: there is an awful lot of evidence that congresswoman ilhan omar married her own brother illegally as a kind of immigration fraud. that's not the only trauma in her personal life. now omar has filed for divorce from her next has been, that comes after allegations of an affair with a political correspondent. trace gallagher has more on the story. hey, trace. >> she filed for divorce on friday, 37th birthday to split the marital assets. pretty basic stuff. court papers say representative omar said the marriage had an irretrievable breakdown, unclear if that breakdown involved a dc consultant named tim mynett who she was allegedly having an

affair, denying affair curious considering his estranged wife said by publicly introducing the boy to omar who, "at that time garnered a plethora of media attention along with death threats, one rising to the level of arresting the known would be assassin that same week." says the affair began while her husband was working for ilhan omar's campaign and now conservative watchdog groups have filed complaints with the federal election commission because omar's campaign reportedly paid him for fund-raising, crowd expenses. question if those funds were used to pursue the affair. ilhan omar married back in 2002, they separated 2008 and legally married last year.

omar as you said accused of marrying her biological brother so he could obtain american citizenship, tucker. >> tucker: amazing. thanks, trace. good to see you. we are back tomorrow. 8:00 p.m. sean hannity right now. >> sean: tucker, great show. welcome to hannity. buckle up, we are going to put buckle up, we are going to put!! this all in perspective. many of you might be worried about the ongoing political tornadoes and hurricanes out of the swamp in washington. the mob and our corrupt media. by the way, you should be. it's repulsive what they are doing again after three years of lies and conspiracy theories. i can't tell you how it's all going to play out. and likely may be the go-ahead and impeach president trump over nothing. bill clinton had 11 felonies in the ken starr report, nothing here. we will see. i can tell you this with confidence, i can tell you how this is going to end and it's going to end with the reelection