they respect her. civility and mutual respect. what a radical concept right? that's a nice moment and that's the story on this tuesday october 8th 2019. the story goes on tomorrow. we will see you then. have a good night, everybody. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we live, as you may have noticed, and the age of woke capital. not just selling products, we are selling more than that. you see it everywhere. you see it in every movie come every commercial, repress release from the diversity division of your legal hr department. the message is always the same. companies aren't just soulless profit seekers, they are more than that. are they that have values and they have principles. they cared. they probably care more than you do. once upon a time corporate america flatters its customers and now they dare you to be as virtuous as they are. is that real?

are they actually virtuous? or is all of this a cynical post? we will let you decide. consider this. last friday darrell moorings, the general manager of the houston rockets bus while tian said what seemed like a noncontroversial tweet. he wrote this. fight for freedom, stand with hong kong. that's it. now china, as you may have seen, is now trying to crush hong kong and it's not hard to pick a side. china is a racist xo state that bands dissent and murders of clipped political opponents. if you would think every american would stand with hong kong without even thinking about it. but not the nba. the nba is on china's side. so he was forced to delete his tweet. the nba issued a statement making it clear that under no circumstances do they support hong kong or human freedom. today basketball commissioner adam silver emerged clarified. he repeated the for refrain of

every person who opposes free speech. sure, you aren't safe from the consequences. speak of the long-held values of the nba are to support freedom f expression. daryl morey is the general manager of the houston rockets and enjoys that right as one of our employees. what i also tried to suggest it is i understand that there are consequences from that exercise is in essence his freedom of speech and you know we will have to live with those consequences. >> tucker: so it's not hard to say that we support freedom against of the fastest government of china. apparently it is. steve kerr is the coach of the golden state warriors appeared on the question of american politics, you may have noticed he has no problem speaking his mind. he embraces the hard left socialist policy. he doesn't hesitate to demand stricter gun laws for the rest of us.

in the words of one fawning media outlay, there are many, he speaks truth to power. all right. so what truths were he ready to speak to china? nonit turns out. not a single truth to the government of china. choosing between freedom and fascism turns out to be really confusing choice. who knows with the right answer is. it's as you pointed out, it's really above his pay grade. >> bizarre international story. a lot of us don't know what to make of it so there is something i'm reading about just like everybody is but i'm not going to comment further. >> tucker: not going to comment further. a bizarre international story. in other words steve kerr is a phony. he's brave when the crowds applaud but when money is at stake, he shuts up and obeys like the cowardly little corporate stooge that he is. it's hard to imagine how a man like that can look himself in

the mirror at night. yet he's not alone. hardly. there are countless steve kerr's in corporate america. all of them happy to lick the boots of their chinese masters for pay. they just banned a top player from one of its games because he gave an interview supporting the demonstrations in hong kong. just last year right outside of washington, the hotel company marriott fired one of its employees. why? for liking a tweet that recognized taiwan as a country. that's it. that tweet offended china. so marriott did the bidding of the fascists and fired him. that actually happened. this is common by the way. in hollywood pandering to china is so common and so fragrant that the show south park produced an entire episode mocking it. >> we want those chinese viewers. >> seriously? >> it's okay. there's plenty of other things to talk about with your story.

how about what kind of things you are into you when you were a younger? >> i always liked winnie the pooh. >> no. that's definitely off limits. winnie the is illegal in china because some chinese student said he looks like the chinese president. >> come on that's ridiculous. >> tucker: may be ridiculous but south park was banned in china after the episode you just saw. you got to respect the craters for making the episode anyway and a comedy central for airing it. most companies in america would never do that. why? you know why. china has 1.4 billion people. companies want access market. if it is a choice between supporting the united states, our country, and our people, or getting rich in china, it's no contest for many companies. for decades neoliberals assured us that it was our duty to embrace free trade with china as the rest of it sat by and try to steal technology and stature of our properties in cities driving up the rates and the rents and decreasing the rates of homeownership and destroying

millions of manufacturing jogs making a communist country -- china inevitably -- these things are always inevitable, that would become much freer. that was in explorable because capitalism always leads to democracy. remember that? they were lying. it turned out to be completely false. instead of exporting american freedoms to china, or ruling class instead imported chinese authoritarianism here. 30 years later ordinary americans are poor and all of us are less free but china and our neoliberal elite are a lot richer. it turns out that fascism is pretty good for business bid that ought to worry you. fs1's jason whitlock will talk to us in a moment but first we are joined by michael. an author of the fantastic book the hundred year marathon, tran's secret strategy to replace america as the global superpower. no longer such a secret strategy. thanks so much for coming on.

what do you make of a company like the nba which enjoys an awful lot of support from american taxpayers taking the side of the chinese government against american citizens? >> as you say, it's kind of craving surrender. a lot of it comes from the power of the chinese economy. the chinese financed by us instilling our technology come a lot of it will we provided directly to them, chinese reached at least 75% of the size of our economy. the chinese themselves believe they surpassed our economy five years ago. by the way, -- you are talking about a very powerful country. this is not anything like even japan was only 10% of our economic power when they bombed pearl harbor. this is really a major power stronger than the soviet union ever was in comparison to us so these companies are reacting to real facts. they can be punished and they can be rendered bankrupt by chinese powers so i don't forgive what they've done but it

really is where is how 20 or more years or even support for china has got us into the situation where president trump is just starting to fight back. there are some interesting news today that he's going to put 28 company is, the most advanced technology companies in china, artificial intelligence, special kinds of cameras, special kinds of surveillance, they can buy american products anymore because of this order that president trump at all this morning but he said several times that he doesn't want china to surpass us on his watch. and then he says is hilly clinton had been elected, china wouldn't be surpassing us right now. >> tucker: given the stakes are as high as you just outlin outlined, that suggests that now is precisely now the time for american companies like the nda to cave to the fascist government of china. >> they shouldn't do it but they really need american government support. this is one of the things

president trump is beginning to do is hurt chinese companies that misbehave. it's hard to really punish the nba for being craving. maybe we can shame them into better conduct but they are nothing like the power of the federal government and our federal government now is saying look, china is getting ahead of us and in our space. the reason for creating the space for us is chinese satellites now can do things we can't do in space. they've got a saying that our air force calls the kidnapper satellite. top opens up, it can grab another satellite, steal it, go away. we can do that. we haven't gotten a counter major. >> tucker: a metaphor for what they have done for our technology sector for decades. they give very much for joining us. jason whitlock is the host of speak for yourself on fox sports one and he joins us tonight. jason, this seems inexcusable behavior from the mba. what's your view of it?

>> i think the cultural impact that china's influence over a great sport, great american sport like basketball, is just now being exposed and just how dependent the nba is on the chinese economy and the chinese money to put on the appearance of how great the league is doing. without the chinese money and without -- you really have to understand the shoe companies, nike, adidas, they run american basketball from the high school level all the way to the pros and the shoe companies are dependent on the china market and that's where all of this is coming from. you see nba players constantly over the summer in their off-season running to china to do the bidding of their shoe companies and to fill their shoes in the china market and so the nba is really being exposed as not nearly as much of

american business as it is a global business with china perhaps having more influence over it than even america. >> tucker: that's shocking given that of course -- shocking because they don't view them people know that but i alss of course incubated in this country which wouldn't have been possible in any other. basketball was invented in massachusetts and a ymca. i don't know that there is any basketball that wasn't subsidized by american taxpayers so how could they possibly take that position? >> the cultural impact of this and what a great teachable moment it is for most american citizens. when people start talking about being a global citizen, i don't think people really understand what that means for american culture and i think for a lot of the everyday typical american sports fans, this is an educational experience. this is what people are talking

about. we can't let our corporations, our country to be totally by china because it's driving out of culture. these laws called players, james harden, lebron james, actually apologized on behalf of daryl morey to the chinese government. we are apologizing to a communist government and then we have athletes here and coaches that railed against our government. we are the bad guys in the minds of these nba players and coaches and their little parade of being so low. all of it to me is at the behest of the shoe company. they are doing the bidding of the shoe company and protesting china and demonizing us and our culture and dramatically changing our culture. these athletes are young and i'm not giving them an excuse but they're young. many of them didn't go to college, they've only spent a year or two ago in college. they don't understand how they

are being used and played to promote a communist and a marxist agenda. they have no idea that their actions and a lot of the things they are promoting come of this victim mentality, all the identity politics and everything in america's racist, all of it. it's all a scam by the shoe companies. look how socially aware we are, look how we fight against injustice. no. you actually are doing a marketing ploy to pretend you have a social conscience and you actually are doing the bidding of the communist regime in china. >> tucker: may be the single most racist government in the world. it's literally an act no state and here's the socially conscious nba -- very quick. it's a little shocking to me that kerr, of all people, who never hesitates to give his opinions, can't manage to say that he takes hong kong side.

>> tucker, these guys can rail against our government, our president come and be applauded for. they don't have the courage to speak out against a communist government. all kinds of human rights violations. it's the epitome of hypocrisy and cowardice. >> tucker: it really is. thank you for putting it into context with the shoe companies. i think that's the most interesting thing i've heard in a while. good to see you tonight. well barely one year from right now, about 13 months, democrats could potentially be in charge of the executive branch of government. what would america look like? we have a thought experiment for you straight-ahead. it might alarm it. we will give you that warning. we will be right back. ms. good musical

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field is suddenly looking a lot smaller from accounts that would seem like hundreds of people. next week's primary debate will feature only an a dozen candidates. 13 months from now one of these people could be president of the united states and if that happens, what sort of country will we have? that's the question. really the only question that matters. one thing that virtually every democrat seems to be running on is more weed and allows law enforcement. >> expunged the arrest records for everyone has been arrested and then use our clemency powers to free all of those who are serving time for marijuana possession. >> expunged the records of those people arrested for possession of marijuana. >> decriminalize marijuana. automatically expunged marijuana

convictions. >> it's doing more harm than the original the offense. >> we will expunge the records of those who have already been convicted. >> tucker: the great expunging begins. it's not just drugs but legalizing them retroactively. that sounds radical. it's nothing compared to what they are planning on doing though as soon as they can. congresswoman alexandria ocasio cortez who in effect functions as a kind of one-woman think tank for the democratic party, our culture on that, it is now demanding the elimination of prisons on the grounds that they are racist. here's the quote. mass incarceration is a system whose logic evolved from the scenes lineage as jim crow american apartheid to end slavery appeared to end it, we have to change. that means we need a real conversation about d incarceration, prison abolition. of course there were no prisons

before racists in america thought them up. so with no more prisons presumably that will mean no more prisoners right? so with all of those felons back on the street and in your neighborhood, pay phones, you may suddenly be a little bit concerned about protecting yourself and your family but tough. in democratic america, self-defense will be banned because they are taking your guns. >> so to gun owners out there who say they are going to come for my guns -- bingo. you're right. if you have an assault weapon. the fact of the matter is they should be illegal. >> do agree on the buyback of assault weapons? >> i do and i will tell you why. they are weapons of war with no place on the streets of the civil society. >> yes we are going to take your ar-15 and your ak-47. >> tucker: that kid is so

white you wonder why he doesn't blow away like an autumn leaves but whatever. by the way, that'll make home invasions a little tougher to deal with. lots of luck with that. let's hope you don't get assaulted and need to go to a hospital because in democratic america you might find the hospitals a bit overcrowded. why? while the left is giving free health care to the rest of the planet. >> you support giving universal health care, medicare for all, to people who are in this country illegal? >> let me be clear about this. i am opposed to any policy that would deny it in our country any human being from access to public safety, public education, or public health. >> do you believe that undocumented people should have

health care in this country? >> i think an argument and people need to have the means by which they can be covered when they are sick. people need it -- this is just common decency. >> raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants. [cheers and applause] >> tucker: raise your hand if you don't wants a single normal person to even consider voting for you ever. free health care for illegal aliens. quite an idea. it how is our already broken country going into pay for that? here's a calculator. you figured out. but don't even think about heading to a bar to drown your sours stomach sorrows with a cocktail. >> do you banned plastic straws? >> i think we should. yeah. >> would you support changing the dietary guidelines? the food pyramid? >> yes. i would. >> tucker: yes. whatever you are for kamala harris' forbid yes. tammy bruce hosts get tammy bruce on fox nation which is absolutely fantastic and reason enough to get fox nation.

she joins us tonight. this is the country we are going to be living in very soon. are you cite? >> i am but people can be -- they can get a preview. new york transformed into a maximum security prison so technically prisons would be close but it would be in the entire city that you live in because that's where all the criminals are and they have a freewheeling way of living and so every major american city that is run by liberals -- already people are trying to escape from them so there is sad but yeah it sounds thrilling but here's the irony of all of this. the left and the democrats crow about being the ultimate champions for the individual and he had what they are doing of course is setting up policies and suggesting things that require the government micromanaging every single aspect of our lives. see you know, the pothead out there who wants to be left alone or the person who wants to enjoy their steak but worries about the climate, they don't realize

that this is inviting and the suggestion is that you as an individual are to be wiped away and we will control everything that you do from morning until night. he had a big conversation about china and the problems with china. well, you know, the chinese did not do well without a cultural revolution where it was about getting rid of before old. it was about wiping away the old customs and ideas and there was a very specific applied framework about how to erase the idea from people that you can think for yourselves and effectively live freely. this isn't new what the american left is doing and what these candidates are expecting. it is and it's always failed. it's always destroyed lives. the great thing about america is we can laugh about it. we've got a good film like escape from new york and we can warn people that it's a very bad idea to vote democratic. >> tucker: when people tell you that the past is off limits,

you shouldn't make any reference to the past, he shouldn't be left to see the pastor think about it, that's usually a tile is in it? >> it sure is. the past is prologue of course. this is what -- why the left has and limited to requirements like in california for history courses in order to be accepted into the uc system. they don't want you to learn about what that history is because it tells you very specifically what happens. ideas are powerful and what happens to certain political philosophies that i failed and it's not because the right people didn't implement them correctly. it's because they are simply bad ideas. we've got a chance here of course to push it back and send a message to the rest of the world but americans get it and the democratic candidates i think are not only making fools of themselves but they are proving that you can be an american and have some very bad ideas and that's what's so great about her system. we cannot vote for you and vote for other people. >> tucker: i think many will

take that option. it was great to see you tonight to me thank you. well, for alexandria ocasio cortez, the past began right around 2012 when she graduated from college. on the basis of that information she is calling for the abolition of prisons. something she believes were thought of by americans during the jim crow period. what would america look like if we got rid of all prisons? former deputy director of illegal policy at the manhattan institute. great to see you this evening. so what would be the practical effects of this? >> there prior to practical effects would be that vulnerable communities around the country would experience very large increases in violent crimes. we have plenty of data on what people are concurrently like and what those data say is that about 80% of them come when they

are eventually released, are going to go on to reoffend in some way or another. many of them are going to reoffend violently. the high crime cities around her countries are all experiencing some version of the same problem which is violent crimes committed by recidivists. nationally i think more than one-third of all violent felons committed their offense while they were either on probation, parole, or awaiting trial and pending. so the idea that prison abolition carries no downside risk is not only not a thing but it's dangerous. >> tucker: but it's everywhere. it certainly among our decadent elites like alexandria ocasio cortez or the koch brothers. the people who are actually making policy in this country have seemed to decide all the sudden that no one is imprisoned justifiably. it's all racism and it's all reefer madness and craziness and we seem to open the doors and we will be a better country. is there any data to support our? >> not at all.

alexandria ocasio cortez and, i wonder who she's talking about. is she talking about murderers or robbers or, assailants, aggravated assailants, burglars? this constitutes the vast majority of our prison population in this country. not to mention the fact that even people on lower public order, you have to keep the mind that their conviction ruptures obviously understate the crimes they have committed. a means of the attorneys ultimately reflect some sort of downgrading in exchange for a guilty plea and a reduced sentence so the idea that the people who are behind bars don't know the significant danger or haven't gotten a second chance, it's nonsense. 40% of felony convictions result in a state prison sentence paid only 40%. that's it. i mean the idea that we are living in this overly committed society just doesn't jive with the reality which is that you can commit a lot of crimes.

>> tucker: you listen to guys like beto o'rourke and it's like in on any in question mike it's 1965 in their world. they never update their assumptions to match the current reality because they are down i think. thank you. good to see you tonight. i appreciate the context. last night we gave you evidence that bill clinton, conclusive evidence, that he sought political help from foreign countries but we don't think he should be impeached but it's true. it happens. john carried at the same thing could we will show you how in just a minute. plus we will talk to a top house republican member about impeachment. how's it going? we will bring it to you next. ♪ with va mortgage rates near record lows,

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the china nba story proves a peer by the way, the ukraine impeachment saga also does. everyone in washington is telling you it's unbelievable that donald trump would have used a conversation with a foreign leader to help politically. that never happens. we are not endorsing it but we would like to give you some context so last night we showed you a phone transcript where bill clinton who was the president asked tony blair who was the prime minister of great britain for political booster for the 2,000 election. we weren't singling out bill clinton. this is very, very common. now john kerry has been talking to anyone who will listen about the president's shocking behavior with ukraine. watch. >> my reaction is one of absolute shock and the basement. that is a fundamental profound abuse of power. there is no other way to put it. >> tucker: no other way to put it. cliche. he's full of it.

you knew that. but just to put some meat on those bones, during the 2004 election, which he lost, john kerry openly bragged about full sitting support from foreign leaders against his opponent that year the incumbent president george w. bush. i've met foreign leaders who can go out and say this publicly but boy, they look at you and say you've got to win this. you've got to beat this guy. we need a new policy. people love john kerry. he was asked to which leaders told you that john kerry? what'd you say to them when they said that? and what new policies did you promise and how did they pledge to help you? john kerry said he wasn't going to be specific because it was his right to keep his conversations with foreign leaders confidential. that's absolutely necessary for leadership. right. you see the point. while earlier today the

white house in a letter to the speaker of house nancy pelosi calling ongoing impeachment effort illegitimate and unconstitutional and furthermore saying it will not cooperate in less a full house vote is held to begin a formal inquiry. congressman devin nunes is the ranking member of the house intelligence committee and former chairman when the house was under republican control. he joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. so if i'm understanding this correctly, the white house is saying once you make an official we will cooperate but not until then? >> the house intelligence committee has become like the secretive impeachment committee but with no rules and so i don't blame the white house for saying look, we will see you in court. we are not going to provide you any witnesses, we are going to provide you any documents, and we will let the house of representatives vote like it's been the tradition. if not, you can hold us in contempt and we will see you in court in a matter of months. >> tucker: beds as but as a

procedural matter, is it true or not that the house -- and order has impeachment coming out to have a vote. leadership can't just say there's an impeachment. there has to be a vote. >> right. it traditionally -- the house makes its own rules so one could argue that they are just making up the rules as they go along but we do have tradition and you have precedents so it's relatively recent. you have the impeachment of bill clinton and the impeachment of richard nixon so if you really are going to truly get this to the house, open up an investigation, pass it, vote to impeach a president, send it to the senate for trial, you have to have a system of government where you would have something that is fair where both sides can actually go out and gather evidence and that's what doesn't exist today and i think the white house has a very good point because as someone who's been in all of these meetings, i can tell you i think it was

described today as a kangaroo court and is probably being ni nice. >> tucker: right people to have a vote. it's a democracy. we vote on things here. so you have sued twitter and you sued them because you think twitter users defamed you and made up fake accounts to do so. there was a development in that lawsuit today per tell us what it is. >> well, thankfully a judge has now decided to agree with us that twitter can be held accountable for its actions. for its negligence. so as many people know who have been on twitter, especially if you're conservative, it's quite often that things randomly happen to you. you lose followers, some people can't see what you post on twitter, you get shadow band, and my kids what was happening as they were allowing anonymous accounts, to slander and defame me on a daily basis. finally a judge said okay twitter, that's it.

they rejected all of their arguments and now that case is going to move forward in virginia and you know i think it's really important for the american people to understand that twitter is -- its public come company. to the supporters really know what they've been up to? >> tucker: it's hard to think of a company that is hurt this country more than twitter. maybe there are some. i can't think of one. if you look at the hate and the cruelty that is now common, it wasn't common in ten years ago, twitter is a huge part of that. they should be ashamed of themselves. if nothing else i hope this suit calls attention to that because it deserves more attention than it gets. thanks so much and i hope you will come back. and then pretty good to see it. at a louisiana editorial candidate is under attack for holding a position that most sixth grade biology professors hold there are two genders. that's just the point of view. we are warning you he is going to come on and say that next so make the children leave. ♪

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great police officers and law enforcement of minneapolis and the great state of minnesota. see you thursday night. the mayor responded, quote, ," someone tell the president of the entity's that he can afford to help pay for the extra pay our officers will be putting in while he's in town." the police are already angry at the mayor because it presents them from wearing their uniforms a political rally so instead they will be wearing red t-shirts that say cops for trump. watch this. >> we don't want any issues so we just thought we will turn the place into a sea of red with the shirts we designed and they are available and we can't keep them on the shelves. speak of the police also said the security charge for the trump rally is ludicrous considering the cost for securing an obama rally a few years ago was reportedly around $20,000. so now the point is moved because a short time ago the city backed off the five net $30,000 security bills.

though the president still thinks the city should drop its mayor as well as congresswoman ilhan omar. spewing trace gallagher, thanks for that. well there is an election in louisiana this week to help determine its next governor. congressman ralph abraham is running. but abraham just ignited a storm of outrage from making a very bold claim. he said there are only two genders. >> i'm ralph abraham. i'm running for governor and here's the truth. life begins at conception and the government is too big. our taxes are too high and our core insurance is too expensive. president trump is doing a great job. facts matter more than feelings and the second amendment is self-explanatory and as a doctor i can assure you there are only two genders. >> tucker: wow.

over at msnbc they were outraged and told her viewers that agreeing with your eighth grade biology teacher is quote incendiary. he has a physician. we recently talked to him about all this. here it is. steel and so did you think that in declaring that there are just two genders that you would be causing a controversy? >> what a strange word we live in where something that simple and not statement would set off a firestorm. everyone knows these transgender laws are about lawsuits. i live in louisiana and if you live there you are a four times more likely to be sued for anything. that's why our car insurance in some of the highest in the nation. that's why this current governor has decimated our only gas industry with frivolous lawsuits and a look, i just simply wanted to send a message that when i'm the governor of louisiana, that ends. >> tucker: how are your trial

lawyers doing question mike they seem like they are pretty prosperous. >> we have some of what i would imagine the most prosperous trial lawyers and may be the nation and perhaps the world. we are lawsuit happy in louisiana and that's why we are 5,850th out of 50th in everything. we are in the ditch on the economy, our jobs are gone, we are the only state in the nation that lost jobs in the last 12 months. >> tucker: i know some of your trial lawyers actually. so as a man of science, we often hear the debate about science and conservatives who are opposed to science but you are a medical doctor. if you could just settle this question conclusively for us, how many genders are there is a scientific matter? because a scientific matter, i've delivered many babies as a family doctor.

i can assure you it takes me about three seconds to tell the parents, whether it's a boy or whether it's a girl. >> tucker: so what happens to a country -- go by the way, you saying that out loud is not an attack on anyone. but what happens to a country where you are not allowed to say things that are objectively tru? >> well you've seen what's happening. you see the culture in the direction our country is going and it's really one that i don't approve of and you know that's why i am the congressman and that's why i will be your next governor of louisiana because we have got to get some common sense back into our culture. >> tucker: it's amusing to watch reaction to your campaign statement. thanks for coming out tonight. i appreciate it. well nothing enrages permanent washington more than the idea that at some point, a foreign war might end. they hate that more than

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>> tucker: one of the many unconventional planks in donald trump's platform is getting the u.s. out of foreign quagmires. it turned out there was a deep reservoir of support for that idea and so he won. the promise that you are going to do something and trying to do it is not the same as doing it. it turns out unlike the bureaucrats can prevent you from doing it if they so choose in this case they so choose. the latest example, on sunday, the white house announced u.s. troops would be withdrawing from northern syria and washington people went insane immediately. >> what we have here is a betrayal. what we might have in the coming weeks is a bloodbath. >> with his impulsive, hideous last night, trump has endangered

not just the kurds but the progress made against isis and the entire region. >> what is happening now is that those promises don't matter. we are not going to stand by and it and the handshake doesn't matter. >> i can't figure out anyone in washington who thinks this is a good idea. trump is betraying our allies and the kurds who bled and died to defeat isis. >> i woke up this morning to hear that news and as i do it seems like six days a week i just put my head in my hands. this is crazy. >> tucker: they say the people who actually destroyed american prestige consistently over decades, those are the people who did it. while in a conference call with reporters yesterday, and the unnamed trump administration official, believe it or not, did his best to placate the you just saw on the screen. trump said he wants to pull out of syria but don't worry. full pullout won't happen

anytime soon the official assure those on the call. bill burned out as a retired marine captain and he joins us tonight. thanks much for coming on. so are you surprised -- the president unequivocally states his intention of doing what voters voted him into office to do witches remove these troops and washington basically says no. we are not allowing you to. does that surprise you? >> yeah, i mean we have seen this story before. we should have left syria some months ago after we destroyed isis last stronghold. we have no vital interest left there and instead there is this universal pushback within the establishment which you have said and it looks lik like a tactical pullback from the reporter or not will will withdraw so i think the president has not encouraged his convictions. >> tucker: so you want to believe in democracy and you want to believe that over time the majority can have an in court on the country.

but they're starting to believe maybe it doesn't and dumb people are in charge. >> well, what happens on the hill is the most disappointing thing. we have a rule roar that congress never authorized and they are climbing over each other. that's probably worse than everything you hear among the pond and class. >> tucker: that's right and that such a smart point. this is a war they never -- -- didn't have the courage to make it official widget about war. why shouldn't they be required to be on the record in support of this thing is actually supported? >> absolutely. the authorization of the use of military force is a farce. we are still fighting in countries all over the greater middle east on authorizations designed to track down al qaeda in the wake of 9/11 so that's one of the problems but obviously we've got to call for a problem in congress were half of those people at least in the senate think they can be president and that's the

priority being on tv not taking difficult stands. >> tucker: we ask a -- the services to do an awful lot including in syria. this must be dispiriting i would think for then. >> i think it is but i think people get the mission when the mission is narrow and focused and achievable. when we are stuck there in the definition of mission as they are stuck in somebody else and their civil war, i don't think that's tremendously encouraging or something people want to do in uniform. >> tucker: i can imagine a worse position to blend americans in. it's shocking we would do that. thanks so much for your perspective tonight. we are out of time. good news, we will be back tomorrow as we always on weeknights. 8:00 p.m. the show that is the sworn totally sincere and we hope cheerful enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and

groupthink. once again we encouraging you to dvr it if you can figure that out. godspeed. in the meantime, good night from washington but don't despair. we have great news live from new york city comes the man at the helm of 9:00 p.m., sean hannity. there he is. >> sean: that might've been live from new york and saturday. all right sucker, great show as always. welcome to use "hannity" barely begins begin tonight with a fox news alert. we are now tracking major breaking stories including a bombshell developing from the department of justice. fox news now reporting that the barr investigation into the origins of the russia wish hon is expanding. fox's reporting it is our chemical, mr. jerome has expanded his investigation and is adding agency resources, one of the multiple administration officials. the time i know has grown from the beginning of the probe through the election and now includes a postelection timeline through the