as soon as i saw your face on this book, you just have such determination and at such an honor to meet you, thank you so much for being there. more of kyle's untold on the podcast, foxnewspodcast.com. that's "the story" for this monday night, i will see you back here tomorrow. good night, everybody. musical speak of the television news business is a very small place some may call it incestuous. creates most of the people to do this where job for a living know each other. many of our together over the years. there aren't that many employers so it's not surprising that a number of people on this channel, including me, once worked across the dial at cnn and as any of us can and will be happy to tell you, cnn has always been a liberal place. it was founded by ted turner. but cnn was not always nakedly partisan. it used to be a news network and it always functioned as it does now, as a political campaign. if that's under development.

what changed? the head of the company change. the president of siena now is jeff tucker. he is responsible for the change. here's how i once described him on this program. summoned his minions. from across the cable empire, they gathered as beckoning, each with talking points ready. so if it sounds like something out of harry potter, that's because in some ways it is. you won't see gargoyles at cnn headquarters but you can feel the political ambitions of the man who runs every detail of that place. it often feels like every segment on that channel is choreographed for maximum political effect. if you've ever seen it, you know exactly what we are saying and it turns out, there is a reason it feels that way. earlier today, the group,

project veritas, released a series of audio and video recordings. it was made by someone within cnn. now we have not independently verified the tape we are about to show you. we did call over to cnn asked them but they did not respond. we have no reason to believe any of this is fake. the recordings we are about to show you indicate zucker dictating every detail of cnn's programming and in doing so, was clearly partisan inductive in mind. this is him telling his minions how to shape the coverage of senator lindsey graham himself. >> i'm hoping there are a lot of people at cnn were friendly and it's time to call them out. >> "provisional government of free joseon" >> tucker: got

that? that's the standard. that's the new standard at the news network. the cable news network. lindsey graham has appeared on fox so i caught him. and so cnn did just that all while pretending coverage was legitimate. here is jeff zucker telling his employees that no matter what else is going on in the world, the impeachment of donald trump, which in effect is a symbolic act, is nevertheless the only story that really matters. listen. >> netanyah speak all of these e moved towards impeachment so don't lose sight of that. >> tucker: for a news man the distinct lack of clarity in those instructions but the effort was clear enough.

don't lose sight of what the biggest story is. that's an order. the message apparently has been received by the people who worked for jeff tucker. listen as the cnn staffer explained that he and of the rest of them know exactly what jeff zucker wants. >> there is nothing we can do. jeff zucker wants impeachment every single day. yeah. he wants impeachment so above all else. >> tucker: there is nothing we can do if jeff zucker zucker wants impeachment every single day. impeachment above all. that's exactly what they delivered day after day. despite the fact that there was really anything new to report, not really. and yet, because projection is the signature hallmark of the left, jeff zucker zucker accuser people of trafficking in fake news. hilarious. listen to this. >> i think what's going on in america now is really

fundamentally the results of years of fake news, conspiracy, nonsense, and i'm dead serious about this. still when i'm dead serious about this. one of the least serious people, least impressive people, least articulate people in public life. [laughs] even his employees can't take that seriously. listen to one of them. >> there's a lot of people who are out here trying to do what they think is instructive journalism and then you get on the call and big boss jeff zucker zucker tells you what to do and it's like to in a certain you have to follow his verdict. >> tucker: we are laughing because how can you not laugh? it's out there.

like there is nothing hidden at this point. but it's also poignant. here you have a kid that works there who thinks his journalism and he looks around and sees people, because there are good people at cnn, who are trying to commit journalism but the big boss, jeff zucker zucker, won't allow it. integrity be. just do what jeff zucker zucker says, whether it's true or not. that's the definition of state media, relentless cheerleading. relentless never ending shilling for the ruling class. america doesn't love it. they don't want to. but everyone in washington loves him. not surprising. mother of panic attack and radicals in the age of trump transition now. great to see around me. i don't have a problem with an opinion program. as i often say, never attacked rachel maddow because she's not lying to me, she's just giving opinion. if jeff zucker liker is out there claiming that he is

running a news network and his employees are saying things like there's nothing we can do if zucker wants impeachment, we have to do what he says, i mean, is that journalism? >> that's the interesting thing about this. there can only be one story. every day, there's nothing else happening in the world, nothing else worth covering, if you are a general worth exploring other subjects, please don't do that. we don't do that here. it's frustrating for the people who are good journalists who work there and think maybe someday it's not the top story or the slightest minute and it is new is pertaining to russia or ukraine or whatever it is, maybe there's something to talk about, no, you can. at such an excellent point. whatever the faults fox news may have, i can say with total sincerity, we never once been told what to cover it. we don't have some centralized morning call where the big boss gets on and says this is the story, cover this. that's why they hire you. to make these calls. he and ann, it's a command and

control system. >> tucker: it while they act like they are the perfect purveyors of knowledge that can never air. i mean, there's a range of people who say them. i agree, there's nothing wrong with abbott's other networks, these other mainstream news outlets, they act as if they represent some central position that is beyond reproach. it's different than what you are doing here what you're doing is weird or strange or what they're doing is just relaying objective information. i think what's happened over the last couple years is realized that's not true. they stop believing that lie, that narratives lie, about what other journalists do. >> tucker: so if you were cnn, why wouldn't you just be honest? you see the rest of these guys, they're obviously partisans. there's nothing wrong with that. why insult this -- he continued

as insult this? >> exactly. most people do have opinions. pretending that you are an objective purveyor of the truth when we know you have opinions, maybe that's the good thing about all of this isn't that's now more out in the open. i think more people realize that there are opinions and you should take that with a grain of salt when you are considering the information you're bringing in. >> tucker: exactly. stop lying and we can get along. great to see you tonight. as project veritas does make clear, jeff zucker's regime was seen and is only possible with the help of others at the network. >> love them or hate him, john lennon is basically like anti-trump, he's going to the left, so maybe don levin could disclose that but cnn makes it appear as though we have 24 hours but that's not true.

>> tucker: i have a sense that nick nevill is in some trouble tonight. author mark steyn joins us to assess all of this bid what you make of what we have learned tonight? >> well, it helps to confirm why cnn is i in the state it's in. if you recall, i think this was the year before president trump came down that escalator. cnn was -- went nuts over the minute malaysia airlines instant leading up to their fantastic fairy that the jet had flown into a black hole which you may recall they respected journalists were advancing at one point and you can say what you want but that has the kind of objective surreal not seen us all of its own. it's in the tradition of a lot of tabloids but it's not just putting yourself at the service of one political party and doing

the bidding of that party and i think that's been a disaster for cnn. you talk about jeff zucker, he has a network to run and it seems to me a lot of the things that are terrible about cnn, before you get to the bias, it's sedentary compared to -- i say this with whatever objectivity you take it with but i think it's dreary compared to fox. i think it's anchors are not compelling. when it has big special events such as its rather curious lgbtq debate the other night when joe biden started riffing on bath houses, in theory, that i want to be a must-see tv but it was a raging blast because of the way that cnn covered it so there are actual things that as a television inc. executive, jeff zucker liker should be trying to correct. and once he's made it less bad in television terms, then if he wants to attend his political biases, he would at least have

accomplished his primary task, which is to be functioning tele- visioning executives. >> tucker: that's the interesting fact of all this. cnn, for all of its effort to carry water for the democratic party, is not actually working. so what's the point of this? >> it isn't and they are in this terrible trap because they started as the first cable news channel and they had a kind of usa today image. people just thought of it as something that was there. when you go to the airport, it's there. like "usa today" is outside your hotel door when you are staying at a marriott hotel or whatever. when you go to a foreign hotel, anna mann or jordan or whatever, they've got cnn international playing over as you eat your breakfast in the restaurant. so they have this bland image and yet at the same time, they are high for partisans and they can't make those two things

align properly. i mean cnn right now is the most irrelevant. if you want a hard-core lefty propagandist, they do that. same with nbc. they do that better than cnn. >> tucker: right. much better. it's actually interesting i think. mark steyn, great to see you. thank you for that. of course jeff zucker wasn't always at cnn. he was at another channel for many years. he ran nbc for a decade. before that, he was the youngest executive at "the today show." things have not changed that much at cnn since he left. he the network repeatedly try to cover up the harvey weinstein story. well, this wednesday night, someone knows an awful lot about nbc and is making her first tv appearance parting ways with that channel nearly a year ago. megyn kelly will join us as a guest on this program for her first interview. she has a lot to say. i hope you will watch.

in many american cities, authorities have decided that probably safety is in fact left important than the feelings of criminals. not surprisingly, crime is rising. ordinary people are becoming victims and that. in washington, a boy was stabbed to death at a station taken by thousands of capitol hill employees every day. trace gallagher has the latest on that. speak on one side of town from the d.c. police chief was laying out an initiative to combat crime but at the very same timee capitol building, a 16-year-old boy was stabbed in the neck allegedly by a 15-year-old girl. the boy who was stabbed stumbled off the train, collapse, and died. police believe the killing was sparked by a dispute between two teens, or two groups of teens driving the train. because she's a minor, the 15-year-old suspect's name is not being released and the dnc believed she was promoting a crime industry because the nation's capital had five murders last week alone.

including a man with special needs. but a violent weekend in d.c. is an average weekend in chicago where seven people were killed, 21 injured, almost 2200 people have been shot in chicago this year. in philadelphia, there were two mass shootings this weekend that left one person dead and several wounded including a 14-year-old boy who has life altering injuries. los angeles has seen 21 murders in the last 28 days. >> tucker: remarkable. thanks a lot for that trace. while in a lot of places around the country, authorities appear to be prioritizing the rights and feelings of criminals over your safety but they're not stopping there. they have measurably more dangerous, the left is taking active to prevent you from protecting yourself. why is that? that's the larger question. here's the facts. in the state of california, gavin newsom started a bill that allows a person's coworkers,

employers, and teachers to seek gun violence restraining orders. in other words, now you can ask the cops to take your guns without a trial. a gun rights activist joins us tonight. so this -- i understand is being sold as a way to make america safer. is there any evidence that this would make america safer? >> no, it's not. you can't make any of the most recent mass shootings that would have been prevented because there was a red flag law in place. to be honest with you, i would go is so far as to say that this is probably one of the most dangerous pieces legislation is passed. he's brought into the type of people who bring these type of claims and it basically turns this all into a social and political weapon. i had a conversation with an individual who thought i was crazy because i had more than three guns. so what you think is going to happen now when you embolden these people with a law that says guess what i can do now? i can get into an argument with

you and if you raise your voice to a certain level i don't like, i cannot consider you crazy, go report that, and how your guns taken away. it doesn't even have to be successful. all it has to do is cause a nuisance in my life because now my guns are gone, i have to pay upwards of 15,000 to 100,000 to get a lawyer to defend the case, and i still may lose. so essentially he's weaponize the idea that if you are anti-second amendment or anti-gun, you now have the perfect tool to use it against people who are pro-gun. >> tucker: i miss this. growing up in this country, i'm 50 years old, i thought i understood our system, and i thought that you had to be proven guilty before they punished you, before they took your property away, for example. but that's not true. >> that hasn't changed except for in places like california apparently but yes, we have a due process right here in this country. just because you think something is a good idea, you don't just get to waive my right and say no, i believe this is going to work, so therefore you're right

don't matter anymore. we only have that liberal type of idea of rights when it comes to the second amendment. >> tucker: so what if i think you have terrible judgment? what if i think you are going to vote for the wrong guy? i take your right to vote away? >> again, i think that's exactly what this is designed to do, i'm going to be honest with you. >> tucker: i think you're probably right. thank you for that. well, it's not even a matter of opinion anymore that free speech is under seizure in america. adam kroll and dennis prager are pushing back with a fantastic new documentary debuting the trailer for that on the show. we will show it to you in just a minute. plus, alexandria ocasio-cortez is so upset about the climate that she is weeping in public. why is she going all the way to europe to prove her superiority? we will investigate afterwards. ♪ here, it all starts with a simple...

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>> tucker: for well more than a century, people in this country have made the case for socialism but that seed has never really sprouted and taken root but that's changing. young americans appear to be, every poll shows, souring on our economic system, capitalism. ilhan omar and the dispute 11 set the agenda. you can see it every day. he is one example. on abc recently, senator bernie sanders blasted his rival list elizabeth warren with the worst insult he could think of. >> there are differences between

elizabeth and myself. elizabeth is a capitalist. i'm not. and the reason i am not is because i will not tolerate for one second the kind of greed and corruption and income and wealth and inequality and so much suffering that is going on in this country today which is unnecessary. >> tucker: and other differences, he might be actually even more self-important than she has. we will let you decide. in any case, and 2019, that's a real attack on the left. my opponent is a capitalist! whatever they choose to call it, the democratic base is demanding socialist policies and increasingly, the candidates are happy to oblige. >> will tell you what i believe in terms of democratic socialism. i agree with what goes on in canada and in scandinavia, guaranteeing health care to all people as a human right. >> i think undocumented people need to have a means by which they are covered when they're sick. >> raise your hand if your government plan wouldn't provide coverage for undocumented

immigrants. [cheers and applause] >> tucker: socialism with open borders! that's the trend. senator rand paul of kentucky is fighting it. he has a brand-new book out called a case against socialism. he joins us tonight. senator, thanks so much for coming on. congrats on the book by the way. i think your book to her is probably a very interesting window with where we are right now. my deeper question is, why are we there? most economic indicators seem positive read why are we embracing socialism? >> when i was again, we would say will that liberal is probably socialist but they would never admit to it. i hope have people who actually are running on the label of being a democratic socialist. i think some of the days that they have forgotten their history. and part of the book we talk about the fact that hitler was a socialist, stalin was a socialist, and about 100 million people died in the last century primarily from and famine and primarily from the collectivism and socialism, but they seem to

have forgotten it. then i went to the fact that they'll say well, we were for castro but not so much for jobs is but what we are really for a scandinavian socialism. so we spent a lot of the book describing the fact that scandinavia first is not socialist, but we also report that bernie is actually too much of a socialist to even get elected in denmark. the prime minister of denmark said bernie, quit calling a socialist, we are not socialist, we are open for business, and you are ruining our business by telling the world we are socialist when were not. >> tucker: the socialism of norway is based on oil deposits. so what's interesting though is that conservatives often say socialism makes people more poor but the people who run socialist systems always wind up very rich, i've noticed. >> we make that point i in a bok that there's always the top 1%. in our country, it's largely based on merit, and socialism, it's largely largely based on

who you know. whether you are wealthy, can have plenty to eat, for example, in venezuela, the average person is lost 20 pounds over the last year. majuro has gained about 50 pounds in the last couple years. so majuro is getting bigger and bigger. he can even fit into his clothes. he so fat, his generals are fat, they are all well thought, but the average person has lost 20 pounds. that's a statement of what the average life is like for someone and socialism. >> tucker: so if inequality becomes so profound it causes instability in your society, but socialism is not the cure for that. >> right. and actually look at inequality also and it finds that the studies are true. if you look at income inequality in developed nations, income inequality is actually promotional to economic growth. it doesn't slow down economic growth at all, and really what we should be concerned about, in which society would you rather live in?

where the average person makes $30,000 a year -- it really shouldn't matter what a rich person makes. you really want the average that the poor folks make to be increasing, and that's what's happening right now. >> tucker: right. so would i have to ask you about the syrian question since you are one of the very few elected officials in washington who appears to be at least sympathetic for the president's position. why has the response been bipartisan in outrage almost universally here? >> it sort of one of those strange compromises in washington. they all seem to be in favor of continued intervention everywhere. they never believe you can come home. when president trump talked about coming home from afghanistan, it was like 19 years and it's precipitous to come home? really it's appalling but there seems to be almost no one looking at the situation. i will tell you one extraordinary thing. for months have been saying the

best chance the syrian kurds have is actually making an alliance with assad to protect them against the kurds. that's already happening. as we speak, they are beginning to have an alliance. the best chance of having some autonomous zone is being part of syria and reassuring turkey that they are not going to be making invasions into turkey. that's what happened into iraq. they are within the government of iraq and they have the a surety that they aren't going to invade into turkey. interestingly, there are 1800 turkish businesses in kurdistan, the kurdish area of iraq now, that are actually getting along well. that could happen in syria too. we prevented it though because we are saying you can't talk to assad but really, you probably do eventually have to talk to assad. >> tucker: of course. sumner, thank you very much. great to see you tonight to congrats on the book. alexandria ocasio cortez isn't simply passionate about socialism, she also says she's so worried about the environment that she can barely function.

last week, she took a jet to copenhagen and was reduced to tears thinking about how irresponsible it would be for her to have children. >> if i were to have a child in the next few years, he, she, or they, will have to contend with the world where some of our most precious, critical infrastructure goes underwater. i speak to you as a human being. a woman whose dreams of motherhood now it taste bittersweet. because of what i know about our children's futur future. and that our actions are responsible for bringing their most dire possibilities into focus. still when he, she, or they. even when she's having a climate meltdown, she always remembers to express the current gender orthodoxy. she knows what's most important. the publisher of climate depot and the author of the politically incorrect guide to climate change. they then give a coming on. i don't want to dismiss this as what it appears to be which is

something -- this does seem like lacking in perspective. i think this is pretty common. i don't think she's the only person who feels this way. >> no, she's not, and there is actually about five decades of environmental, left wing, socialist movement behind going and attacking kids and scaring kids. back in the 1960s, the bomb book led to the same kind of thing. people fretting over having kids. >> tucker: but we don't have enough kids in the west. we are actually due to extinction. are they aiming this at africa? is a conseil cortez looking at people in africa and saying no more kids for you? >> i think she's sincere. al gore himself went to bill gates function and said africa is projected to have more population than china and india combined and he called for what he called ubiquitous fertility

management in africa. here was al gore basically telling bill gates that there were going to be too many africans in the next century and we needed fertility management to keep them in check. >> tucker: what is that? >> i think he's talking about access to birth control somehow. sterilization. but the best access to population control his wealth. the wealthier country gets, the smaller the family size gets. >> tucker: the left really wants to make this argument that the third world needs to stop reproducing? that's a creepy argument, the kids of the problem? is that really what they are arguing? >> absolutely. there was a climate activist who announced they would not have kids. jericho years later, he welcomed his kid into the world and set a grievance on the greatest hobo ever. kids are hold and what they are trying to do is scare the kids that we have and they are trying to scare people out of having them. another scan kids. there is kids who signed a canadian pledge not to have kids

when they're older until government acts on climate change. they have tied having kids and scaring kids to passing the new green deal. they call themselves the green new deal era. the kids of the green new deal era and they will not have a future. they say anyone who says they have a future is in a liar unless we passed the green new deal. >> tucker: this is not science. it's a colt, obviously. children signing a pledge not to have children is hard to believe. this is deeply disturbing. >> it's the regulatory state using kids now to argue -- the latest environmental scare pushes central family planning and wealth distribution. is nothing unique about the global warming scare. every scare since the 1960s has had the same solution. >> tucker: right here and more power for them. thank you for that. adam kroll and dennis prager have a new documentary about the battle against speech on college

campuses. they are debuting a new trailer exclusively on the show and that's next. ♪

>> tucker: america's universities used to be centers of free thought and opening creed. that was the whole point of having them. that's fading from memory. today's fools exist to compel far left orthodoxy and any dissent carries the social economic risk. adam: demos prager are not intimidated by any of this. two of the countries most aggressive advocate who receives and they teamed up on a documentary. they debuted on this program. we talked to them both amendment. but first, here's the trailer. >> you have the right to remain silent. anything you say will be used against you. >> you are not listening.

>> i want your jobs to be taken from you. >> it is turned violent california berkeley. >> this is why we are fighting for the soul of america. >> you should be able to share ideas without fear of being fired from your job or shouted down. >> you are not to be heard. this is one of the few things one could say we have no precedent for in the united states. >> you have the right to remain silent. >> the only way we separate good ideas from the bad ideas is to be free to say whatever we want about them. >> anything you say will be used against you. >> there is no free speech for a fascist. >> kevin hart has stepped down from hosting this year's oscars.

because you can't be funny. >> it's creating an atmosphere of fear and repression and it's going to bus. because you cannot think differently. >> it makes it difficult for you to learn from other people. >> isn't it spooky that you are having this discussion? >> you can't challenge us. >> they never kept score. >> there is no debate. >> its diversity of thought. >> we deserve the right to be offended by everything. >> no university should ever create a safe space. you're not gonna protect people. the best he can do is make them strong. >> it bothers me for the young people who are being deprived of anything that could open their minds. >> you have the right to remain silent. ♪

>> tucker: makes her heart pounded. adam: dennis prager join us tonight. thank you both for coming on. adam, first to you. you spent a lot of time speaking this particularly as you made this film good are you more hopeful or less eschenbach to go i more hopeful because we talked to our mutual friend is dr. drew all the time and i do a podcast with him and he keeps saying, om going to swing back and i said not yet for many years but a few specials have come out. the day's supposed marshall came out bill burke, comedians, comedians are going to lead the charge and those guys did stand of specials basically saying screw you to the pc police and that to me as an indicator, along with movies like this film, that we are starting to swing back toward sanity. >> tucker: i hope you're right. so dennis, for the average person watching this, i think the average person will watch this and they will have the same

reaction i did which is you can feel the blood pounding in your ears, what can they do? how can they advance the ball on free speech a little bit? >> i divide good people into three groups. those who cite it, those who help the fighters, and those who do nothing. unfortunately, throughout history, the third group is the largest. it's just the fact. i'm not happy about it, but it's a fact. those who help the fighters are as important as the fighters. so this film is in those fighting category and it's also in the entertaining category. a laugh and you will cry. but if you go to the film, believe it or not, that will be a huge thing. if this film is a huge success, this is a message to hollywood, this is a message to the universities. people need to know what is happening. as i've said for much of my career, sending your child to college is playing russian roulette with their values.

>> tucker: it's true. so i want to openly promote this film paired how will you be able to see this and when? >> it's coming out in phoenix on october 24th on the first show is sold out, there's gonna be shows added, and if we can get enough people, the way the business works, if we can get enough people in early, then we can expand it throughout the nation. >> tucker: you guys both lives out in california. tell me, how have your friends, people you know, responded to you are doing this? >> let me tell you something. this may be almost out of wine, i did not expect this film to be as excellent as it is. i thought it would be good, it's great. it's not great because i'm innate, it's great and i minute. >> it would be better without dennis, that's for sure. >> nevertheless, it's great.

>> he is kind of sandbag to my gondola but i'm still soaring is what he's saying. >> invents, fact, it's already prepared for me. dennis prager was a sandbag to adams gondola. >> you know, this is a bipartisan picture and i've showed it to crowds and my fans and other people's fans and its equally balanced. there are voices on the right and voices on the left and they all agree on one thing which is the voice, we want our voices intact. >> this, by the way, is part of my thesis. this film proves the thesis of mine. there is a world of moral difference between left and liberal. we have a lot of liberals who are very worried about the suppression of free speech. it's one of the dividing lines

along with race, this free-speech issue should be one of the great reasons why liberals are worried about the left. >> tucker: that's right. and we interviewed decent people on the left all the time. they are every bit as exercised as anyone i know who works here. are there comedians, do you think, apart from dave chapelle, like you were the people who are going to be leading the renaissance of free speech? >> other than the comedians? i think many pod casters, dave ruben, obviously -- >> while he's asking about comedians. are there other comedians other than dave chapelle? >> well, there is david chapelle, an incoming has what comedians do. comedians hit a saturation point and then they push back. i mean, consistently throughout

society, that's what they do. all the comedians i know have been hearing this thing that's been fed to them with safe spaces and you know, the pc police, and it's all just been percolating inside them and then we vomit out the truth at some point. so many comedians i know who were frightened four or five years ago to speak about certain subjects are now wanting to come back with a vengeance. >> tucker: guys like jimmy do on the left, i don't know what else we ground, but i think there are people like that who are totally sick of this. it is a kind of tyranny and thank you both for fighting back against it. this film is out later this month. i hope all of our viewers will watch it. thanks a lot. china come as you know, is a rising country. but momentarily and that's

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>> tucker: for the past 30 years, china has risen from one of the poor countries on the globe to of course, superpower. every step of the way, china has had help from the people who run our country but most of the time have been happy to give the chinese a boost in order to enrich themselves. they've made it far more powerful militarily. he is one example. in 1994, the clinton administration cut a deal with china to let them buy a special machine parts from manufacturing missiles and aircraft spread china quickly broke its terms on the deal and in return for

surrendering a major economic and military advantage, america got nothing. it's a remarkable story and it's painful and fascinating. he wrote about that deal in his book which is outstanding called it goliath, the hundred year war between monopoly power and democracy. he joins us tonight. matt, thanks so much for coming on. i can't overstate how mesmerizing i found your account of this. it's just jaw-dropping. if every detail. it's infuriating. but some it out for us in a few minutes and we have heard what exactly happened here? >> that's a great question. my book is about america's monopoly problem and in the first half of the 20th century, we took on concentrated power and in the second half, this was a way of getting in context of the basic problem. we allowed concentration in markets all over the country, everything from search changes just ranges to baby formula. part of that was a decision by people on the left and the right

to say big is good and let decision happen in the 1970s. by the 1990s, bill clinton came in with a strategy called engagement for the whole world and his idea was that if you would allow our monopolies to trade with china, then china will become democratic. even if you have to make some moral compromises on the way. so part of what happened when they allowed mcdonnell douglas to sell these machine tools to china, they said well that's not a big deal because all we really want to do is establish trading relationships with china and obviously it was a catastrophe but it was seen as sort of not a big deal in the context of the 1990s and the 2000s because the whole goal was to establish more and more trading relationships with our monopolies into china. but it turned out to be a huge deal because over the long run and helped china comes very clo. >> that's true and we are in a really dangerous situation right now because we have monopolies all over our economy and when

you concentrate power domestically, then you empower foreign influences, in particular, china, to take power over us, and you see it with the nba but you also see it in corporate america, hollywood, our corporations, marriott, apple, all kind of couch yelling china because china is a large market. this was a strategy that was put in place by the clinton administration and in the bush administration and it's about concentrating power in a small number. it's a whale to deal with it is simple. the first thing we need to do is make our corporations smaller. if our corporations are smaller, then china won't have as much leverage over them. >> tucker: i couldn't agree with you more. and one of your recommendations you set on the show's to break up some of the big tech monopolies. i hope you'll come back on the show on that. congrats on the book. it's fantastic. up next, washed up professor says that one of america's most

pressing problems is a racist, sexist children's cartoon. it you want to know a lot more about that obviously. after the break. ♪

>> tucker: he lives in a pineapple under the sea. he is absorbing, yellow, and pores. those are the good points. unfortunately, is also racist. the problem according to professor holly barker, who apparently actually works at yale, is that spongebob's underwater hometown is called bikini bottom. at the name comes from bikini at all, the nuclear test site, and that's not okay according to professor barker. spongebob's big pineapple house and the favorite burger restaurant, the crusty crab, normalize subtler colonial takings of indigenous lands while raising the ancestral bikini and people." all of which means, the final and total collapse of higher

education can't come soon enough. that's it for us. we'll be back tomorrow night. they show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. >> sean: thank you. welcome to hannity. breaking news. multiple fronts tonight. bombshell inside fake news cnn just released by project veritas. it exposes all of the face of fake news and its president jeff zucker in his own words hating fox and on a mission to destroy the president. the cnn whistle-blower will be here lies. friends of jeff zucker may want to call him and tell him. they will join us for exclusive interviews and so much more you don't want to miss. it's coming up tonight. but first, biden incorporated has been exposed. the cloud of corruption darkens above joe and the shady families