worse for fake news cnn. we will never be the crazy rage hate trump psychotic media mob ever. we will always pursue the truth. laura ingraham is live. hey, laura. >> laura: the camera angles on whether they come a little and cameras. they are not flattering. that's all i'm going to say, they are not flattering angles. if were focusing on that. could they have a better angle, if you're going to do an undercover angle, can you let the people look their best, that's my point. >> sean: the content is the problem, the content is what matters. you're worried about camera angles. >> laura: you know what, hannity, the fact that cnn is pro-impeachment, it's like, you know, we all know that's. so why is that? >> sean: remember. we did an investigative report. >> laura: we did all that, i'm glad we have it confirmed that he doesn't like fox and more

impeachment and wakes up dreaming about it. that's what i'm looking forward to. one has to wonder if this is going to be impactful. >> laura: never doubt the ability of people to fail upwards. we have seen failure where the before. >> sean: by the way, when you get shown door here, it will happen any day. i been expecting it for three plus years, we get the door here, obviously. >> laura: we will be on the front lines. i'm laura ingraham, and that's the "the ingraham angle." a former independent counsel can can star warning tonight that house democrats are in fact abusing their power to go after drug so why every american should be concerned about the impeachment in moments, plus, california is

going from leftist dream to an american nightmare. if you're not going to believe the radical list inflammation. it just signing into law there and what's the real story about hunter biden and china. michael pillsbury has spoken to communist leaders about the former vp son and is here to fill us all in. but first, sean punish and silence. that's the focus of tonight's angle. it's a strong temptation to just shrug off the significant left would shift of the democrat party. they're never going to win the white house, it's nothing to worry about. they've increasingly clear that the fringe is today's democrati party and the masks are off >> there could be nowhere more words, benefits tax rate might

break, for any organization that denies the full human rights an full civil rights of every single one of us. we must stand up as a nation to say that it cannot be an excuse to deny people health insurance, education, or more. this cannot happen. there has to be consequences for discrimination. where religion is being used as an excuse to harm other people. >> laura: it's like one giant echo chamber. a pretty much all the democrats at the cnn equality town hall last week were nodding and their own in agreements. they all have to pass the new democrats in 2020. they do not -- being the only transparent enough to say it explicitly, but make no mistake about where we are. none of the viable democratic candidates will respect religious liberty rights if they in any way conflict with the rapidly evolving secular mind-set.

as site of views that was once only fashionable among the left and is being gradually embraced and hugged by today's aoc plus three democrat themed party. translation, if the democrats went to the white house, christian, judean, the muslim institutions that teach, and sexuality will be shunned, punished, and ultimately silenced by government action. >> even people will agree with the on the underlying point that conservative black churches, mosques, islamic organizations, and numbers of affiliated they could all lose their status under such a plan. >> it should be as you best see >> practice your faith as you best seem that fit but you're not allowed to discriminate against people in this country. >> laura: so the answer, is yes, moments of candor are all too far and feel.

only when beto saw the potential for the political fallout later on that he try not to walk all that back. putting out statements. remember, none of the candidates on stage with him last week they did not object. again, a big echo chamber of course he is right. what turned out to be a kind of uncannily timed appearance at notre dame law school happen on friday. attorney general barr warns of the bold new attacks on the bill of rights by the stormtroopers of the secular left. >> this is not decay, this is organized destruction. secularists and their allies have marshaled all the forces, the popular entertainments, on religion and traditional values. >> laura: it used to be the democrats were all about tolerance. just going to let you live your lives and let you live our lives

and it will all be fine. liberalism, libertarian, fox is basically agrees that it's a punishing banning speech or running roughshod to, it was dangerous. that's what dictators do. but today, the new people are people of faith or traditional strata who dared to stand afoot a full crowd. the shunning and shaming may not involve a scarlet letter, but the effect is the same. don't do business with in deplorbles, don't let them into the universities your clubs, or your companies. all must bow to the new secular creed. >> those who do defy the creed risk if you go to burning at the states. social educational and professional ostracism and exclusion wage through lawsuits and savage social media campaigns. >> laura: barr nailed it.

when democrats say they respect the first amendment rights and religious liberty. they made a similar claim many many times about the second amendment. now there openly talking about the mandatory gun confiscation. >> are you proposing taking away their guns and how would this work? >> i am, if it's a weapon that was designed to kill people on the battlefield. yes we are going to take your a 15's and you're ar 47. >> laura: millions of those taken. already on the local level, we have seen this aggressive push by the secular fanatics and public schools. in orange county, california, of all places, parents were shocked to last year to find out that they couldn't opt out of the controversial gender identity curriculum that they believe was neither age-appropriate or medically accurate. planned parenthood and finger,

other activist groups were all over it parens shared similar stories about the traditional human reproduction curriculum there. meanwhile, showing about 54% of students in the santa barbara school district are actually proficient in english-language and the literacy. again, there'll be no dissent. and religious beliefs do not inflate you. >> the states are requiring local communities to make your public schools inhospitable to families with traditional religious values. those families are implicitly told that they should conform o leave. >> laura: no one and the 2020 democrat field is strong enough to stand up to the secularist radicals. biden is too wounded to do much of anything and is pandering on face with anderson cooper which was an exercise in utter and complete humiliation. even he had a spoof the candor

fest. >> know me, i went back on marriage equality and whether where illegal, whether, transgender, you're all okay with me. >> i have some apple slices backstage and they're hitting me like cooking. >> i went to harvard but they didn't teach you where to put your arms. >> don't think i'm dodging the question so i'm going to go now. >> laura: the democrats have the whole thing before with the move to the left. think about doing to candidacy, i think it takes eventually another electoral whipping to force the democrats to wake up. they are not most of america is and neither remember the bill of rights protects speech and association and religious rights. they are protected, their inalienable rights. right now, today's democrats who thought leaders are the

socialist squad, they intend to rule you, not represent you. no wonder so many of them seem to have a soft spot for china. >> china is going to eat our lunch, come on, man. they're not bad folks, but guess what, they're not -- they're in competition for us. >> laura: it's a thing called real election. look, obama didn't much like traditional americans, but he knew at least how to patronize them. his successor is already pretending these days, they want you punished, period. >> have a very low regard for people for no he's doing wrong but enabling, they will go down in history as despicable actors. >> laura: they have to be punished and if they control again, the doj, and all the federal departments and agencies, they will make sure this time that those of you who

cling to your guns and religion will pay dearly. libertarians, you're going to face some hard questions in 2020. do you think the first amendment is worth saving? do you believe that your fellow american should be punished by the government no less just because they don't agree with whatever secularist claim is now mainstream? if the democrats win, given the support that they have from the media and academia in hollywood, it will be nothing to restrain them. not even the supreme court which they've already threatened to pack anyway. if they don't agree with the secularist collective, they will try to drive you from public life. and destroy you. submit or be shunned, agree or be abolished. that's a reality should be at the forefront of voters minds next november. and that's "the angle." here to respond, chairman of the american conservative union my

fellow of the american principal project, raymond arroyo, fox news contributor. raymond, the 2020 ban, trying to back away from the freedom statements made, is the strikingly really credible? >> i'm not sure it is, laura, because every one of them supports the equality act. speaker pelosi proposes last march, essentially, would give a loophole more protection than the little sisters, let me qualify that. this is an antidiscrimination that exalts a identity, gender preference, about just about anything else. it's a real-world implications, hospitals that refuse to perform certain gender reassignment surgeries and they could be shut down. religious grounds, there are no religious exemptions under the equality act. when you talk about orphanages, about kids who think they're

transgender, the parental rights could be taken away from parents if they deny these kids certain hormonal treatments or surgical treatments. as i mentioned, the little sisters of the poor, they've been battling the obama care no legislation just the rule that forced them to deny their own conscience and play for abortions and contraception. they're still battling that's in court and obama signed it. >> laura: this is -- i want everyone to understand tonight, this is so important i think a lot of people aren't covering this, this is actually where there's a real skin in the game. this is not hyperbole. this sounds good to call something equality act, but like so many other pieces of legislation, the euphemistic language doesn't capture what's in the details. >> what really was was empowerment to the trial to go after the catholic church and the christian churches and shut them down.

here we are today, where to the point where beto says you can't really be a church if you give discriminate. >> that's what he says about what he's mean. >> what he is he's fine with is discriminating against believers and people of faith in the country, the take away the tax exemption to the church and you're not going to allow institutions like the universit of notre dame to receive any kind of federal benefits for th students, that's absolute discrimination. let me tell you, i see this next campaign, it's not about socialism, it's about secularism and there's a combination of the two. socialists, it's about the economics. they don't respect your right to have your own beliefs and to make your own decisions. >> laura: for them, they think your beliefs, it's judeo, it's christian, it's muslim. he was very explicit that, and the beto as an outlier, he's on an outlier. aoc is as close to being a thought leader is the democrat party as there is today.

>> this isn't about the the promotion of secularism, but to be very clear about this, this is canceling christianity. that's what's going on here. it's canceling traditional values even amongst jewish families, christian families. this goes back interestingly about 2005 and lay consideration. they also responded to a conference at yale, it was called the rehabilitating the constitution and by 2020 it was called constitution 2020, they could range the whole thing, removing the undergirding of what america is. when you thing about what has happened since i conference and what the people that were there and they were in the obama administration, were not coming after your guns. look at this now. gay marriage will be the end of it and were not going to go any further. lie. >> laura: obama said he was against gay marriage. it was a lie.

>> do you trust the people who is consistently now lie to you time and time again about incursions into your private life into your children's lives and into the fact, as raymond was saying earlier, an act that you will have young men running against running track against young girls in school. >> laura: happening all over high school in connecticut, huge, huge issue. so, again, people want to say we don't like this tweet or that tweet or trumps tone. at some point it's a choice between religious liberty, free expression, the first amendment the entire bill of rights. were going to get into the next segment, they want to hold a tribunal to pick a president out of office and secrets. >> it just doesn't make political sense. the democrats, this didn't get covered in august, the democratic national committee

to, they voted on a proclamation to exalt and venerate those with no religious affiliation. technically people who are agnostic or atheist, or in trumps camp a try win the people over. instead they built their own wall and it's a wall that pushes . religious people and religious especially for their outside with a consider the mainstream. this is suicide for the democratic party. i don't know why they would do this. but supporting the equality act, i don't see how it ends well politically for them in the national race. >> laura: means that donald trump has to make this a issue, this is women, moms -- it's people across the board. they want to be able to raise their cares but they are told that there are evil and discriminatory and their terrible people and all other things that they are told. and people don't like that, leave me alone, don't cram down your values to me.

by the way, cory booker said he would use the federal government to target schools that resist this agenda. watch. >> to allow people to use the bathrooms but we cannot stop there. we must use the department of justice and the department of education and civil rights division to go after schools that are denying people equal rights and equal protection. >> laura: matt, more people are seeing the town hall on the show but its importance, were playing it for a reason. most people that watch list, this is where the party is going. using government as a weapon against people. not to make the people's lives better. >> it started with obama, spying on reporters, sending fcc lawyers into newsrooms. it was the d.c. government asking for the sermons and pastors seeing if there is hate speech and know you have cory booker who is literally running to the president of the united states and he's going to

use the doj to against them can people who have the same beliefs that george washington had and our founders. >> laura: obama -- i mean, obama would be considered what today? in this democrat party, when he campaigned and when he said. red state america, blue state, no, no, no, they want to just be blue state america. red state america, if you die of opiate addiction, that's too bad we don't care about you. >> you greta thunberg approved paper straw pea shooter and in instead of a gun to take out home invaders. >> laura: there is dishonest moments in the media, this is one of them, elizabeth warren had a viral moments at last week's town hall after an audience member asked this question. >> the supporter approaches you and said my senator, i'm old-fashioned and they teaches me that marriage is between one man and one woman, what's your response? >> i'm going to assume it's a

guy that said that, and i'm going to say, just marry one woman. assuming you can find one. >> laura: i mean, raymond, turns the question are of course, he knew it was choreographed, it was so obviously planned. someone named morgan actually is a big warren donor. he's reached the legal max twice for the campaign of warren and her presidential campaign. they pulled out the little scheme and cnn, they know about >> it was a huge response, but let me lay it out they think. there's a rich religious to social network in this country. they serve the homeless, they pay educational leader, and

hospitals, we are risking shutting all of those down. orphanages have already gone out of business, hospitals are endangered, i just read the case, a man identifying as a woman wanted access to a woman's homeless shelter they turn him down. he continually suing him trying to get access to the place. what you think they're going to eventually do, either shut down or give up because of the litigation? this is what the quality act this is what the equality act could lead us to. it could lead us to. it's a bad end. >> laura: across the board, this conversation is critical for the election next year. these are the issues that must not be skirted. people have the guts to talk about them and they go right to parental rights. guys, thank you so much tonight. coming up, house democrats continue conduct their impeachment probes behind closed doors. g.o.p. lawmaker tried to figure out what they were up to but he was probably kicked out of the hearing. ken starr responds to exactly what that means. what are they trying to hide? next.

♪ >> adam schiff trying to run a kangaroo court. why is he continuing to limit access to members of congress. >> laura: that was congressman matt gaetz after adam schiff kicked them out from impeachment hearing today. he tried to sit in of the security council on russia which was being held of course behind closed doors. but having one republican sit and on the secret hearing proved to be too much for adam schiff. >> we want to make sure that the investigation and not to give the president or his legal minions the opportunity to tailor their testimony and in some cases, fabricate a

testimony to suit their interests. >> laura: oh, is that it's, adam? joining us now, ken starr, andnd former doj prosecutor, another day and another closed-door hearing. should americans be worried here? about how any political party, this happens to be the democrats this time. this time, ten hours of testimony. >> there should be deep concerns. in america, we do not believe in secret trials. remember, guantanamo and the cries, we need to open these things up that involve national security. we are now talking about the fundamental and political act or attempt, to remove a president of the united states. if there were ever a need for governments, pick up all the

acts that are designed to allow the american people to have information. it's we the people, those are the words of the preamble, it's a constitutional affront that this process continues, not adam schiff, it's the speaker of the house, and it's very unorthodox. >> laura: these legal experts, the last four or five days have been saying, well, this just constitutional --pe this is not constitutional prerogative. at the house can determine its own rules to proceed for impeachment. while the president might indicate that should be a little bit more open may be vote, he's complained about procedures are not constitutionally grounded. to what you say? >> it's a little cavalier, the constitution doesn't spell out every nook and cranny and how you're supposed to conduct yourself. i think the founding fathers had some crazy notion to operate in good faith and we be sparing and our approach we had people ofpo good judgment like this guy,

judge starr who would know some thing about impeachment that would be the show, because they know this advocates of the moments and the importance of what they are doing. it cries out for transparency in comparison to what we see with schiff.or >> laura: chad, are reporter on capitol hill is saying that who is formally with an nsc staff said there was concern and alarm about efforts to press you ukraine into investigating bide and that these alarms were raised with nsc lawyers. she testified for ten hours and her testimony is leaking out of what they claim is like a grand jury. do grand jury's traditionally have such leaks as these? >> no, absolutely not. it's a crime for a federal grand jury. a witness can go out and testify or to make comments, hold press conferences, and so forth.h.

but, no, the prosecutor in the grand jurors are sworn to secrecy. that is overwhelmingly honored and our system.se i know this all too painfullyve well because i was accused, our team was accused of leaking grand jury information. we were called to give accounts and we are exonerated. secrecy has a place in american criminal justice. this is not a criminal process. this is the ultimate kind of political action where the house of representatives. think about some of the house of representatives, 435 of them, none of this has been authorized in the traditional way. namely, let's have a debate on the floor of the house so that the american people can watch d and come to their own views and let's have about. if that called basic accountability. i think it's an abuse of power by the speaker of the house of representatives. >> laura: they're hiding the transcripts, they do not want theau transcript out. they will leak, oh, they were alarmed.

the former bush nsc person who was on for sometime in the trump administration. they were alarmed. that's the only thing people thhere. without a transcript, you can't really test the proposition, who is alarmed about what. nor can you test motivation. he spoke out about this today. let's watch that actually. >> the testimony, if you actually believe we should treating this as grand jury testimony, you shouldn't be leaking and cherry picking any fact that you think can fit your narrative. chairman schiff, release the outranscripts. don't give me the grand jury b.s. because you are leaking any information that you fit to spun positively. it is fiction. >> cherry picking is the exact right word, he has a history of verdict first, evidence later and that's how he conducted himself. if we don't agree my rules, whatever they may be, that's article of impeachment.

the history of where this is going is horrifying in terms of the precedent of this is that. >> laura: the things that's been broughthi up over the last i find it hilarious, oh, the white house counsel clearly prepares this letter with input from the president. okay. so, first of all, first of all, they would know any of that and it's all made up. why is that another absurd point? of course, not addressing any factual points, but no, from the letterpo of the white house counsel, why this investigation and impeachment investigation sewas invalid. but why is that point more evidence that they are on thin, thin ground here? the democrats. >> because it's preposterous. he is a great lawyer, but he has a client and the client is the president of the united states. obviously, he doesn't send, well, here's my view.

he's consulting with his client the president. it's outlandish and over-the-top. one final point i would make, i don'tt see a transcript. the great engine for truth ever invented and then american system is cross examination, as well as a public trial. witness credibility, jim can speak to this, we want to get the witness on the stand under oath and have crosshe examinati. then we can come to the own conclusions. >> laura: they say will do that, that's what they will say. >> they have done their damage in the house proceedings with cherry picked info. >> laura: they have that and he goes down in history as the impeached president, that's what they want and it's all about 2020. thank you so much, great to see you both tonight. ahead, to get a sense of where the left wants to take us, just look at california. don't put law enforcement at

risk, but, law can impact your kids as well. hunter biden disassociated himself in the whole story. we will ask explain it though. next.

♪ >> laura: i've been warning you, >> laura: i've been warning you, that the governments are becoming the party of lawlessness and disorder, especially in california.

case in point, the l.a.p.d., announcing yesterday they cut back onun random traffic stops. this comes after months of pressure activists and "los angeles times" reports the practice is racist. joining me now, former l.a.p.d. detective. mark, what kind of message does a sense of the police on the front line? >> it's interesting, laura, whea you read everything and all the statistics, nobody actually even addresses what the crime problem is that actually is creating the need for metro to go into a division. we are not talking aboutro the crimes, or the description of the suspects. when i hear random traffic stops, i don't even know what that is. every traffic stop needs probable cause to actually stop that vehicle. whether it's a traffic violation, and equipment violation, it looks like a vehicle that was used in a crime, or the suspects, or the

people in the vehicle look like the suspects or being involved in the crime. need some thing. what is random? i have no idea. >> laura: the statistics of violent crime. 2017, you 29,661 violent crime. by 2018, it was 22,000, 632. looks like it's going in the right direction. already in 2019, 21,717. i mean, that is kind of wild. we have a problem with mass homelessness, we have a problem with drug legalization. everything that is fond. the policefo are telling me the drug legalization has been a now we have this. it's activists who claim nightmare for them. discrimination based on, i guess, ultimately the results of probable cause stops.

>> well, they want you to believe that, but they are not bringing you the statistics across the states and all across the city and across the county of los angeles.br who is committing the crimes and what kind of crimes? when you're talking about violent crimes, who is those crimes? what race, what sex, what age group? that is your target when you go into a division when you're trying to suppress crime when you're blanketing an area and trying to suppress crime, you're trying to identify the violators and creates a intelligence network of who is on the street and documents where they were and when. this is police work and somehow, the state of california wants the police work to stop. they want everything to be just rosy but they don't want everybody to have to do anything that mightst look ugly. but police work is ugly sometimes and that's the way it is. >> laura: i think signed a bill saying people don't have to help police officers. you don't have to assist a

police officer in need in a situation. >> you know, laura -- >> laura: it's all feeling really wrong to me. across the board. it's an effort to be politically correct when you look at the numbers from 2015 to 2018, the share of black driver stopped stopped and l.a. by the specialized metro drivers doubled their share of the population. they take the statistic, hard to see it there, you take the statistic and it doesn't look good. from the numbers protective. >> laura, laura, that statistic is clear completely flawed. they take the entire city of los angeles and then they concentrate the stops that are created in south los angeles in the very heart of where they have a crime problem where there might a be 75 or 80% black. so, if you're looking0% for blak suspects, you should stop black suspects.

we're not going to let this go because this is going to be the raging debate and people will suffer because of these stupid decisions. mark, thank you very much, speaking of california, very business under minding the second moment. friday, he signed a sweeping gun control measures and making it easier for the state toep confiscate people's firearms. coming to estate near you if th democrats that same day, he sent a bill win in november. requiring abortion bill took students on campus. all right, dan, i would say you want to see with the democratic party is headed it over country is headed under their leadership, look at aoc plus three or california. am i wrong there? >> no, you're not, i feel bad for some of the good conservatives who live in california. n i gave a speech out there a

little while ago, and it was packed. there really being screwed, it's become an incubator for stupidity. you want to really dumb policy that's no basis, you look at california and new york and i'm sure will throw one at you. this gun control policy, california, what evidence do they have that any of this is goingg to work? listen, i'm pro-life from conception to natural steps, but i get there other people have differences of opinion. i think they are wrong and they probably i'm wrong. give me one reason i should fund the termination of life in the womb because you feel differently than i do. it's like i should fund a gun program to put every gun in t america, liberals would laugh at me. it's just a crazy policy. >> laura: ethan, thoughts on this. >> it's wrong, and the firearms the injury lower than the tight gun control, like its dramatically lower than the

loose gun law states, of course california leads the way and saying, theyey set it forth with justice writing and section three that the second amendment was not a unlimited rights. on the topic of abortion, it's only good for the first ten weeks. if this is back to roe v. wade, the first trimester, the woman has the right to control their own body.ac look, if you want to cut down on the abortions, support me and saying we need contraceptives to bebe more freely and readily available. so we can say, reducing the abortion rate is tied in. in. >> laura: ethan, you have any concern about religious or conscious rights in the democratic party? we started out the show by talking about that given beto's comments and colleges, religious institutions, if they run afoul against whatever the secular mind-set of though momentous, they could lose their tax-exempt status. do you agree with that?

>> here's the deal, i'm a religious person, i belong to a congregation, my family is. beto did not say, if you believe something, you're going to lose your tax exempt status, he said if you're going to operate in the public space of getting jobs . >> laura: so does the catholic church, so, dan, is the catholic church or the orthodox church, the mosque, if they refuse to hire a transgender person? they will be sued and they will not stop until they have to change their policy, by later violate their content, or shut down. >> it's a stroke of brilliance there, you're allowed to think religiously, but god forbid you practice it. i love how -- i didn't interrupt you now, so please let me talk. okay, thank you very much. i love how he skirts over the fact that cities have stricter

gun laws, he aggregates the data at the state, cities that have strict gun laws like chicago, l.a., new york and d.c. have become blood baths. he wants the data completely, oak, don't worry, playing for a tax player, there's no big deal, because it's only 11 weeks old. no big deal, he skirts over all that completely and never actually gets to the question. nice liberal trick. nice job. they do it right, quite well. >> laura: speaking as a former embryo t-shirt, obviously, religious institutions are not happy about this. but, ethan, do you think the democrats are on a fine line and walking a fine line on this issue of the first amendment, religious liberty, free expression, when it comes to these types of threats that we siare hearing coming from the me prominent thought leaders of the democratic party? yes or no? >> yes, i believe liberty is

very important in the country. again, i corrected you on that beto statements, i think there's a difference. yes, there are things that are happening that always worry me that the pendulum swings one way or the other, we need to be careful of that we have to respect people who choose not to follow religion and who choose to be atheist, choose to be -- >> laura: to go to our church is. they don't have to go to our churches. they can go to -- we don't care. we are not forcing our views on you, but the other way around, they're forcing our views on us. that's the problem. >> the department did today, on the front page of the department, disagreeing with ads, christian leader from secretary pompeo. that's not right either. >> laura: great to have you both on. and anyways, what's the business of hunter biden and china? bringing us the details, next. d

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♪ >> laura: new insight into hunter biden deep ties to communist china. the son of the 2020 democratic candidate joe biden is stepping down from the board of directors of a chinese private equity firm amidst conflict of interest allegations. but reporting that "hunter biden did not invest in bhr partners b directly rather chinese business records reveal a company called skaneateles llc, which hunter biden controls." he's not stepping down from the board, he's personal stake in the company still remains. so joe biden on the controversy enveloped the daily press act and he claimed he had nothing to do with his son's decision.

>> i never, ever, ever, ever, ever, had a conversation with my son about anything i was doing. if i am your presidents, next president, i'm going to build on the squeaky clean, transparent environments that we had in the obama biden white house. no one in my family associated with me will be involved in any foreign operation whatsoever. >> laura: oh, my gosh, this is like a comedy hour with joe. joining me now, michael perry michael pillsbury. the director of the center for chinese strategy, hudson institute, author of the book. michael, a few years ago you had some interesting conversations with chinese officials about a lot of these issues that are currently swirling. c >> it's in my book, senator joe biden at the time, he was kind ofof a mystery becae he has a long reputation on china.

i felt quote from him on my book where he calls china a "rogue elephant among the nations." neverat you should support free trade with china unless they had better policies. so, human rights, trade, military expansion -- >> laura: like where we are now. >> i traveled with him around europe, he seemed like a regular foreign policy guy to me. >> laura: what change? >> i did not understand that the time that the chinese were telling me and 2012, 2013, thank god, you know, joe biden has changed his mind. he softening obama. he's a friend of china inside the white house, this vice president. and like an ancient prime minister who was corrupted somehow. i thought it was strange, i can't remembern who told me th. >> laura: he was corrupted at some point. joe biden went to meet a china

friend. they'ree not an adversary. >> it's strange things, the vice president all around america. he takes him all around china. joe biden makes the speech in australia. america spent the most time, he changes the view on the dalai lama, used to be pro-dalai lama and for us with him. when obama meets the dalai lama, biden is not there. he changes the number of policy years, starts making pro-china speeches. i didn't know until peter schweizer's book came out, laura, talking about the $1.5 billion that president trump calls the payoff. i did not understand, maybe maybe it's just joe biden changes mind on china. maybe there is a connection. that's a mystery. >> laura: you recently tried tory raise the issue of hunter biden with the chinese. >> no, i raised the issue of the biden family.

>> laura: no pressure was put on you to go to china or hong kong to try to get information on the biden investigation or lack of investigation? >> that's what the left-wing press is trying to -- >> laura: they're trying to discredit you, that's what they try to do, everybody that works with trump is a terrible awful person. no, it in the mainstream media is doing any work on hunter biden except post piece interview with him on nbc. >> laura: it's a done deal, conspiracy theory, but you are apparentlyly fishing around for information. >> i wasn't, i was in hong kong and i stoppedr over one half a day on the way back to see american ambassador and embassy. i did not see any chinese officials at all. all of a sudden, there's a headline on rolling stone, and pillsbury got intelligence about the biden family. >> laura: part of the smash campaign. don't they have some good writers, i guess, but it's a

smash. there's no real effort. i have to say, there is new news that came out about the extent of the money that the nba is making with a china connection. $1.5 billion in revenue from the $0.10 social media streaming of nba games. we learned about the protection racket that's going on in the nba with china no one can criticize and you got to be quiet and no policy. all these guys, all these other players, what's going on? >> looks like an operation going on. they spend lots of money and big targets with a vice president biden, or nba, this is a topic of the institute of independent scholar study last year. just how clever china is.nd just the money to influence people.

>> laura: cultural, educational, across-the-board, the confucius institute, all of that, goes very deep. we have now learned how business came to china. mike, thank you so much.

>> laura: time for the last bite. an irish man of his friends and loved ones with a message from beyond the grave. well, watch. >> hello matt hello.

and loved ones with the message from grave. hello? hello? >> that's all the time we have tonight. he was dying to make them laugh at the very end. the fox news at night team take it all from here. that's totally something my dad would shannon: that is totally something my dad would have done. i can appreciate the fact that she was quite the prankster. >> i thought it was classic. shannon: we begin with a fox news alert. growing criticism of democrats closed-door tactics as they brought me impeachment inquiry, some morning adam schiff and others they really helping make the president's case that it is nothing but a rigged game. and joe