seeking the truth and after we make a mistake, we will admit it. we will correct it. unlike the rest of the mob that hates donald trump 24/7. by the way, let not your heart be troubled because the news continues. laura ingraham is in the other small. >> laura: it's like christmas. we keep waiting. it's like when the kids are in the car, when are we going to get there? >> sean: where you like me as a kid, i was pretty incorrigible. totally incorrigible. were you like me, i knew every christmas gift santa was giving me before christmas arrive. >> laura: every hiding place. my mother was so mad at me. >> sean: i don't care where they hid them, i found them. >> laura: did you act surprised on christmas morning. idid you feign surprise? i love the socks, mom. thanks. the new love the practical clothing? >> sean: don't buy me

anything. gee, nice sweater. hey, do you want this? >> laura: great show, hannity. i'm laura ingraham, this is "the ingraham angle." what really happened inside president trump's explosive meeting with congressional leadership today? pelosi and schumer have their side of the story. house minority leader kevin mccarthy will give his in moments. also tonight, judicial watch is investigating about whether prominent conservatives, including yours truly, were unlawfully monitored at the request of ousted u.s. ambassador. tom fitton is here with the shocking details. plus raymond arroyo breaks down the gath-castaic tastic moment from thedebate. but first, trump wins make another democratic debate. that is the focus of tonight's "angle." nearly three years ago, donald trump came to office and he promised peace and prosperity

for america. and as he has delivered. even with the heavy anvil of the mueller investigation tied around his neck, though a president has worked tirelessly to drain the swamp with mass safety regulations, phenomenal judges, and a tax cut for working families. markets are up, wages are up, unemployment is way down across all key democratic groups. on foreign policies, he has likewise been remarkably consistent on his pledge to put america first. he said he was going to do it and he is doing it. he is mining on foreign entanglements, long-term military interventions that i seem to recall democrats used to be against. >> we've been to war for many years. unnatural to us but natural for them. they fight. they fight long and they fight hard and they've been fighting syria for a long time. at the border, that is the border with syria. i say, why are we protecting syria's land?

they are not a friend of ours. why are we protecting their land? >> laura: remember when democrats embraced this anti-interventionist approach? >> this war diminishes our security, our standing in the world, our military, our economy and the resources we need to confront the challenges of the 21st century. by any measure, are single-minded and open-ended approach on a rock is not a strategy for keeping america safe. >> laura: now that is totally out the window. the only person on that democrat to bake stage who, on this issue really channeled obama. >> you will continue with this policy of the u.s. actually providing arms to terrorist groups in syria because they are the ones who have been the ground for us in regime change. >> you can embrace or put an end to endless war without embracing donald trump's policies. >> is an endless war?

>> please allow him to respond. >> what we were doing in syria was keeping our word. >> laura: that's nice, pete. by the end of the evening it was obvious that the democrats will say and do at this point almost anything, including contort their own views on key issues just to oppose trump. i don't recall any of them voicing any great concern to what might happen in 2012 when obama drew his redline and didn't enforce it. the kurds were still in located there. maybe it is because they started seeing polls on invading syria, and what were they like back then customer consider what gallup found. 68%, 24% of americans oppose military action to attempt to end the conflict even if all economic and diplomatic efforts failed to end the civil war in syria. have americans today really become a newly pro-interventionist?

i don't think so. but the democrats maybe they have, all because that keeps them in opposition to trump. and nancy pelosi's party essentially believes the american way of life in many ways has become evil and unsustainable. the candidates think trump is a menace and he's got to go. other than that, their policy prescriptions are kind of a mismatch. biden thinks if he wins things will magically go back to obama with stevie wonder and tom hanks. as for sanders and warren, they've adopted a european-style socialist approach, which, last time i checked on him isn't working anywhere in the world now. amy klobuchar, pete buttigieg, they're trying to hold themselves out as more moderate and reasonable democrats but neither of them can get out of single digits in the polls. and beto, he's basically a less interesting and less intelligent

aoc. castro is a radical, open-borders nightmare. booker thinks democrats should just be nicer to each other. like that is realistic. they are all the either running tobe vice presidy have nothing better to do. i don't know. but cnn did try their best to help them all by staying away from certain topics altogether last night. for instance, there was zero questions or discussion about the most important threat to american long-term security. talking about that small, innocuous country called china. mentioned a few times, all in passing. we are supposed to take this crowd seriously? now remember, voters are supposed to believe elizabeth warren is the new, smart and savvy front runner. >> mayor pete buttigieg, you say senator warren has been "evasive" on how he is going to pay for medicare for all. >> we heard it tonight, yes or no question that didn't get a "yes" or "no" answer. your signature is to have a plan

for everything, except this. >> let's be clear, whenever someone hears the term "medicare for all who want it," understand what that really means. it's medicare for all who can afford it. >> i don't understand why you believe the only way to deliver affordable coverage to everyone is to obliterate private plans. >> laura: she's going to out negotiate president xi when she can't handle the mayor of south bend? i don't think so. what we've learned from these debates i think is generally the following. the agendaless democrats have no china policy, other than complaining about trump's terrace, no coherent trade policy except, we will work with the europeans more. like obama didn't already try that and fail. they have no coherent health care policy, and someone wants to abolish health care insurance altogether. wildly unpopular. but it is still a jungle. they have no plan to raise your standard of living, that i can

say. that actually kind of given up trying to argue that point. but their answer for everything is to tax it. if it moves, tax it. if it doesn't, tax it. >> i do think it is appropriate to acknowledge that taxes will go up. >> for people making between $50,070,000 a year, the taxes will go up about $5,000. >> we should look at what germany, france, and sweet and still, which is a value added tax. >> we need a wealth tax. >> sometimes i think that senator warren is more focused on being punitive. >> laura: you know it's bad when even pa beto is saying too much of the taxes. even at the advanced age of the three top candidates, at times it felt like last night you were watching a bunch of 19-year-olds dilettante sitting around the common area shooting the bull about stuff they just read the night before, so cutting edge.

>> that means that our pole solar system could be like, one tiny anime in the fingernail of some other giant being. what? >> laura: if it were only that interesting. on issue after issue, they have all been tied up in knots. they are defining themselves, let's focus on the democrats. they are defining themselves only through their opposite oppo trump. they used to be against government surveillance but the now advance embrace the deep state's powers. these to be for blue-collar workers, but they won't support at the u.s. and ca. they used to be for getting out of endless wars but now they want back in. there is no consistency whatsoever, except on abortion and those things i guess.

obama actually was a smart person. i didn't agree with him a lot but really smart. incredibly talented politician. elizabeth warren? what am i missing? she cannot hold a candle to obama. none of the democrats that i can see on that stage can. the democrats hate to trump. but have a whole lot of nothing to replace him. and i think smart people in the party know it. look at the new study out today, their calculations show at 2020 map that looks like this. when you step back and you look at that field last night, on that democrat debate stage, you can see why so many democrats think impeachment, even if it takes secret hearings, is there only answer. and that's "the angle." get a reaction, mercedes, senior advisor to the trump 2020 campaign along with doug schoen, fox news contributor and former advisor for president clinton.

doug, can any democrat claim victory at last night's debate? were you surprised by the democrat party? >> first i thought the clear winner as you suggest it was donald trump. because what we heard was division, discord, and raising taxes. democrats don't have a message. i think if anyone won, it's still elizabeth warren because she has been the front runner and she has emerged as that. but when the 12 or 14 candidates are all going at each other, as you were showing, laura, it doesn't suggest this is a party ready for prime time or a general election with donald trump. >> laura: i watched and kept thinking to myself, this is it? there's got to be someone else who is emerging. that is why you keep hearing about bloomberg or michelle obama, she going to emerge? there is something about this field that i don't see as a strong competitors to the

president. >> especially when biden was supposed to be the strong competitor against the president. and what we are finding is he is getting weaker and weaker, especially when you look at the fact that he barely has cash in hand while you look at the other candidates who are more extreme, like warren or sanders really taking off, getting small donor donations, and also being able to push a much more radical agenda. when you listen to them, it's a take away your private health insurance, raise your taxes, take away your guns. the common sense american is saying, wait a second, this is going way too far. plus they don't even talk about the economy. >> laura: how can you go to the debate and not talk about china? how can you do a debate and, they mentioned that four times that it was all in passing. >> there was no china and there was no jobs. the democratic party has always consisted -- >> laura: of blue-collar workers. how are they going to raise the standard of living of blue-collar workers better than trump has done a question like they have no answer for that and they know they have no answer

for that. >> and the fact that there villains of the corporations. they're going to go after the businesses. >> it's socialism. >> is completely socialism. when they get excited because aoc just endorsed bernie sanders -- >> the whole squad is doing it. >> laura: what is going on there question right before i get to beto o'rourke del mag and his gun grab, because this is unbelievable what is coming out of his mouth. aoc in the squad endorsing bernie sanders on saturday. i do consider her to be the thought leader of the democratic party. i take her seriously since day one. people ridicule her and we can tease and that's fine. but she really believes a set of thing and pretty much he believes in a couple of weeks what the democrats are going to embrace as far as i can tell. >> sanders calls himself a socialist, and the squad and aoc want primacy and power in the party. if they went with warren, she calls herself capitalist, albeit one with socialist principles.

maintaining power and influence in the democratic party increasingly looks to aoc and the squad for leadership. >> and they are true believers. aoc and the squad are true believers. >> laura: it's kind of the opposite of trump. they believe different things but they are warriors for what they believe in and he is a warrior for what he believes in. may the best group win. >> he started off the socialist revolution in the united states, is when really you saw the groundswell for that, and warren hasn't taken up that mantle as bernie has. >> laura: i keep thinking it's really about a future presidential run for aoc. this is about building, excitement, and bernie still has the excitement. i didn't see a greater groundswell of excitement or hear it, even in that room for warren. i didn't hear it last night. >> you know what days, she is the best of a very bad bunch to the democrats because, you are right, she doesn't offer much. but aoc, laura, i've looked at the bowling. she is among the most popular

democrat in the country including the congressional leadership and a 14 on candidates. >> laura: she has no social media, she's attractive, people watch and say why are you building her up? because this is where it's going and america has to understand, you may not like every thing about trump's tweets, but this is a stark choice. i'm going to be on the sidelines, people trashing -- like, okay, ben. a gentle bend. we will see how it all works out for you when we have elizabeth warren a bernie sanders. >> laura: premarket democrats like me who believe in a strong national defense, helping the middle class. we are left out. aoc does not speak for me and there are a lot of democrats who think like i do. >> laura: i want to talk about what this beto gun grab thing is all about. again, he is speaking in many ways like aoc is thinking and tweeting. but he is out there running for president. he's not ready for prime time yet but this is what happened.

>> let's just assume there is a rancher in texas that doesn't, that says i'm not going to do this because this is an unjust law and is unconstitutional. what is the next step? >> there will have to be consequences or else there is no respect for the law. in that case, i think there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm. >> laura: a visit? what did they say? they said they weren't for gun confiscation. they are for gun confiscation. >> completely. >> i would say he is the stream of consciousness of the democratic party. >> laura: he is saying what they are trying to hide. he knew exactly what he is going to do but he was like, no, of course not. because that is what you do in communist countries. he going to take away their guns. that is where it starts. >> this country can be refer reasonable gun control, expanding background checks and red flag laws but gun confiscation goes way too far. because that is where the democrats are at.

go save that party if you can. >> i am doing all i can, trust me. >> laura: panel, thank you. last week, marie yovanovitch testified behind closed doors for ten hours. part of the impeachment star chamber of trump. most people didn't even know who she was but since she was there to hit trump, the media and the democrats were quick to note her deep integrity. >> there are many civil servants like marina yadav edge who are not afraid to stand up and tell the truth. >> marie yovanovitch, who put on an unbelievable display of bravery today. >> very much on top of her game. >> she is a state prison who serve her country. >> i know marie yovanovitch to be a person of great integrity, and significant accomplishments. >> really solid and a reliable representation u.s. government. >> laura: it turns out that praise may be a bit premature.

the group judicial watch is investigating whether prominent conservatives, including yours truly, were unlawfully monitored by the state department in ukraine. this is reportedly all done at the request of marie yovanovitch herself. joining me now, the man who first uncovered this, tom fitton. president of judicial watch. he is here with us now. what is going on, what have you uncovered, what do we know? >> we understand she directed a list of people, including you, donald trump jr., the president lawyer, rudy giuliani. >> laura: i feel so special. >> sean hannity, lou dobbs. >> laura: okay come all the cool kids. >> she wanted to know, the staff wanted to know, the social media postings of what you were saying about biden, george soros, rudy giuliani, and her. >> laura: why so defensive? >> this supposedly happened back in march when moore started

happening about whether she was a never-trumper, whether she was improperly protecting -- >> laura: people have to understand, this is a u.s. investor to the ukraine at the state department, and you have it on solid gold authority, tommy? >> is sure is. >> laura: i completely trust, but i want to make sure, that she was ordering or requesting that we be tracked. who did the tracking's? do we know customer speak of the staff was doing it and evidently it was a big project and they asked to help e state department here in washington, d.c., someone took the request and, look at what was going on is that you can be doing this. >> laura: did she say look at my dog's tweets? i wonder if those are part of it. >> tweeting about biden. >> laura: why is mcfall on the list, he is a trump hater. >> he was under barack obama, who knows, maybe he was commenting on what was going on. >> laura: i want to show the

comment for march that might have triggered this on this show from me, troublemaker always. >> laura: in may of 2018, former congressman pete sessions said secretary of state pompeo an urgent letter imploring him to remove the u.s. ambassador to the ukraine, marie yovanovitch. an obama holdover, she remains in the post today. she has reportedly demonstrated clear anti-trump bias. >> laura: well, that was the first time i mentioned her. >> and around the same time, this list was generated. the concern is it is in violation of the law. the government can't be tracking people like this. to be on the liberals used to care about this. going back to what i said on "the angle," liberals used to care about police state-like behavior. deep state, endless wars. do you see how they really turned into these political pretzels by the opposition of trump. nothing he does you could ever

agree with, even a smidgen of it. >> you are acting as a journalist, and your fellow journalists were also on this list. the left doesn't care that journalists were being targeted. according to our source, illegally. because you were critical of a u.s. official abroad. >> laura: what is the record is here? >> their privacy act, there are civil remedies. it's being investigated. "the wall street journal" reports that sessions get the subpoena, the man who was sent a letter. rudy giuliani is being targeted. violating the privacy act carries criminal penalties if you're found guilty. >> laura: funding my d.c. bar license is still pretty active. get a little pro bono, i will represent myself. >> we can do it, too. we want more information. >> laura: sent out the email. they don't turn over their emails, they hide the emails peered all right, thank you for doing this and for finding out about the surveillance. coming up, a meeting between

president trump and congressional leadership earlier today. apparently he didn't go over all that well. the media gobbled it up. pelosi and schumer told one story. kevin mccarthy, the house minorities leader, has a different picture next.

♪ >> laura: president trump's meeting with congressional leadership at the white house earlier today, it was fun. the democrats left in a total huff. the three amigos quickly ran to the nearest camera and provided unintentional comedy routines. >> the president, it was a meltdown. >> let me clarify that, the communists are taking over. communists, and he would be

happy with that. that might make you happy. started calling speakers pelosi a third rate politician. >> i wish you were a politician, mr. president, then you would know the art of politics. >> i've served with the six presidents. never have i seen a president tweeted so disrespectfully a coequal branch of the government of the united states. >> laura: can dish it out but they can't take it. boring, boring, boring like the three stooges you were in the meeting, accurate description? >> they left the meeting and we had the most normal meeting you could ever have that was productive, the secretary of defense and the president talking about how to keep the homeland safe. >> laura: -. >> this is how it all starts. the president provides the letter of turkey.

strong letter. as he passes it around, you know what the speaker pelosi does? he turns over flat to show the president she is not going to read the b of the president calls her out, nancy, why are you laughing because mike this is a serious matter. he recommended that she remove some of the men because they were in danger. didn't want them to be harmed. the vice president over in turkey trying to get a cease fire and everything they care about is impeachment. >> laura: they were looking for a fight coming in. when i saw those three come out to the cameras i literally said, the three stooges. that whole thing. >> they meet before hand and say the exact same thing. when they ask the president questions, the secretary of defense says i have that. now, the president has to answer. then the president goes to answer, it was so amazing. >> laura: trump is going to listen to them jawboning for

months. he is a liar, he is this, he is a russian asset. i mean, they have said the most hateful, horrible things about him and he is supposed to sit there and say, how are the grandkids? how's paul, how are they all doing? congressman, here is your colleagues, one of the three amigos said about your characterization of the meeting today. >> i worked closely with mccarthy and i try to be constructive. at times he tries to be constructive, but i don't consider him an objective source of information on president trump. >> laura: americans shouldn't consider you objective, but the media should just lap up everything they said because they would never, ever mischaracterize. >> remember what i said, these are the same people that put adam schiff, who lied to the american people, wish he knew who the whistle-blower was when he had met with them. he lied to the american public that he had proof beyond circumstantial -- these people

are fixated on impeaching the president instead of fixing the problem. >> laura: i think they see, after watching this debate last night, there is no one on that stage. i don't care, you could show me a poll, all these polls. when two people are on a stage and you are not insulated by anderson cooper or by someone, it's going to be trump versus warren, or trump versus sanders. that's it. i didn't see one person on that stage and they know it. they've got to try to remove him from office. they know they're not going to win the selection. i don't care, i'm going to keep saying it. i think they know when they have to come out of a meeting saying, it was a meltdown, it was a meltdown. how many times has she said th that? they said that back in may, that it was a meltdown. speak of the important part, who is the leader? the person who stayed in the room and had a discussion pair the people who leave the room are the ones who can't handle it. if you're going to have an exchange of ideas and you can't

handle it and you get up and walk out. >> laura: it was planned, they plan to walk out. like the kids who wanted a new candy machine at the cafeteria. we are going to walk out. we didn't get the candy machine. that is exactly what is going on here. speak of this isn't the first time she's done it. this is a pattern of behavior. when she left she made a statement that was like threatening the president. >> laura: what did she say? >> she said, you just watch what we do. he could see it in her eyes and i took that to mean, watch what we do about impeachment. >> laura: don't mess with granny. >> she's trying to make a determination without having any facts, just as she moves to impeachment inquiry without waiting 48 hours. >> laura: was trump mad about the vote? >> not at all, he supports it. i'm sitting in the office, the president says he supports all five. this isn't about the president here the president sent a letter to the president of turkey and said don't come in this area. that is exactly what he said. >> laura: he said he was going to pull the troops out.

he ran on it, obama ran on it. that is why obama didn't go into syria, they didn't want it. >> when president obama was president, he put a redline and said he was really going to -- >> laura: how many democrats complained about that? what's going to happen to the kurds, they're going to be in jeopardy. no one ever talks about the christians, they've been completely displaced and subjugated beer no one ever talks about the christians. >> you know why they are so shocked, they have a president who keeps his word. he kept more promises then he made. but he actually is governing exactly how he said he would. >> laura: and they care about the blue-collar workers but they won't pass the u.s. nca. >> canada and mexico are going to be top traders. >> laura: nancy pelosi is hurting mexico and canada. that's the market. >> tell me one problem the democrats have solved. >> laura: secret star

chamber-like inquiries. anyway, that must've been a fun meeting. >> it was a very fun meeting. >> laura: congressman, have fun behind closed doors with that here democrats love to talk a big game. for example, house majority leader, you heard he believes the impeachment ordeal may be wrapped up by year's end. my next guest says the democrats don't actually know what they are doing. joining me now, former deputy assistant attorney general, university of california berkeley law professor. all right, why do you think the democrats have this process wrong. >> first, the constitution doesn't force them to have any kind of process. it's completely up to them. the courts are going to review it. i think basic american principles called for due process for fairness, not just for the minority, for the republicans, but also for the president. this is the way we've done all the modern impeachment. watergate, bill clinton, you had a bow in the house whether to start the proceedings, and they

have the right to call witnesses, the white house is allowed to send representatives. most importantly, you can't rush something like this. if you really want to do justice and find out what happened, you have to take it slowly and give everyone a chance to do what they say. >> laura: they don't care. as i've been saying and as they laid out at the top of the show, they are willing to abandon their entire belief system on foreign policy, on trade, on blue-collar workers, on the surveillance state. they up and everything for the noble goal that they believe is normal and imperative to remove trump. everyone thinks these are principled positions. get out of town. it's ruthless, but don't call it principled. nancy pelosi, it's our rules. we get to make up the rules and all you people, saying there is no rules, no constitutional implications. this is just your dream fantasy

land of fairness rubric being foisted upon the impeachment process. >> what is going to happen is i think it is going to backfire on them because the american people are going to see they are not taking their constitutional responsibility seriously. if we can't trust them to run impeachment proceedings fairly and transparently, how can we trust them to set a budget to fix entitlement programs, fix immigration. this is the most weighty thing the constitution gives. a responsibility for the house of representatives and they are not going to take it seriously. they're going to try to rush it. >> laura: you've been in some top meetings obviously, with your position high up in the justice department. meeting with the president. the whole run out to the cameras today thing, didn't that just a smack of contrived theater on the part of the three amigos? trump probably called them on their you know what. that is what happened and they didn't like it. >> if i was the president, i

wouldn't even meet with them. why should he meet with people who called them all these names and are trying to unseat him from office based on flimsy evidence. i'm actually surprised president trump does them the respect of having a meeting with them at all and gives them an opportunity. he gives them a form to attack them. he doesn't have to do that. these are people trying to remove them from office and undo his election in 2016. if i were him i would say i'm not going to meet with you until you end this impeachment. >> laura: he is kind of like, can i get u.s. nca, can i get some of these customers they're not going to give him anything. i have to say i kind of agree with you. he's being the adult in the room. they're the ones being the, dish it out and you can't take it. the 2020 democrats are opining on the wisdom of impeachment and i have to get your comments. watch. >> our framers imagined this moment. >> impeachment is the way that we establish that this man will

not be permitted to break the law. >> a process that is making all the facts bear before the american public. >> i look forward, by the way, not only to a speedy and expeditious impeachment process -- >> i don't think this impeachment process is going to take very long. >> laura: [laughs] that's classic. >> i'm glad they're reading the constitution and citing the framers for once but they've got it exactly backwards. with the framers thought is that the american people would judge a president at the time of the election. they would never have wanted impeachment within a year of an election. it's up to the american people. if they think trump has done wrong they don't have to return to office. if they don't think this is important they will reelect him. >> laura: thanks so much. great to see you. coming up, biden gaffes, kamala harris tries to be hip and another revealing moment from last night. seen and unseen with raymond arroyo next. energizer. because energizer ultimate lithium is the longest lasting aa battery in the world.

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>> laura: it's time for are seen and unseen segment. we expose the big cultural stories. the telling moments and a saint rises. joining us with all the details, fox news contributor raymond arroyo. the debate last night, was a disaster for some of the democrats was wrecked >> there were a few autumn revealing moments, like this one from, harris. >> a long list of crises of donald trump's making and that is why he has to go and when i am commander-in-chief we will

stop this madness. >> give me liberty or give me death, a house divided against itself will fall. dude got a go. this is going to be ablaze on a monument someday. >> laura: that is what the cool kids are saying, right? >> kamala harris is pulling beneath 10% among african-americans in the democratic party. >> laura: dude has got ago, socialism has got to come. >> joe biden brought the fire, if not the precision in the debate. >> i would eliminate the capital gains tax. i would raise the capital gains tax. why in god's name should someone who is clipping coupons in the stock market pay in fact a lower tax rate. what does the president do? he says i believe vladimir putin. i believe battl vladimir putin. what is happening in iraq, excuse me, and afghanistan. >> people tune into these debates for a feeling.

they want to get a feeling of confidence, of authority for these candidates. that is what they are really seeking. they don't understand the nuances of policy and when you see biden, confusing countries, people clipping coupons at the stock market. it rattles them and that is why he is fallen for two points. >> laura: my friend, as she says, bless his heart. >> okay, laura, the big news. >> laura: bernie's attempted resurgence. his stamina, he was up there for all that time, including a big endorsement in a big rally with aoc. raymond is going to be the reporting and quickly moving into pop star status within the democratic party. >> she is more than a pop star. she already has a comic book from a company. they have three editions. there is also a children's book that just hit the shelves and get this, aoc is soon to be in

action figure. i wish i was making this up. an activist is producing these. they kind of airbrushed aoc. aoc is not alone. they are adding to their line. it already includes elizabeth warren, bernie sanders and others. hillary, obama, and a little trump, too. >> laura: wait a second, hillary? >> you touched on earlier, aoc isn't endorsing bernie sanders. she is endorsing the people supporting bernie sanders. she's trying to collect them for her next move. >> laura: she is running for president. >> she wants to be queen of the left and that is what she wants. it's because she wants to run for president. >> from make-believe to the real thing. i sat down this week with the mario davis. he i has emerged as a leader on

the team, 800 tackles, a man of faith who made headlines for wearing that man of god had banned a few weeks ago at a game. watch. >> you wear a "man of god" headband. he got you into a little bit of hot water. why did you do it knowing that they have a ban on personal statements on the uniform? >> i thought the headband was good because i've been wearing it since week one. it's under the helmet, so it's not really knowing or paying attention. i wasn't really clear about the rule, like if it was covered up or out and exposed, so when i got the fine i was like, oh, man. $7,000. $7,000 fine. >> you decide to appeal it and then you try to turn it into something else. >> i was in a conflict. i was like, man, this is strongly what i believe and i can't do it because it says what it says i can't take it off. it would be a problem for me to be obedient and follow the rules and i did that but then i said,

guys are going to get glory from this headband whether i wear it or not. i didn't know what that meant and all of a sudden, me and my team came up with the idea of marketing the headbands and using them for donations. i have a partnership with saint dominic's, who i spent helping raise money for their emergency room. i said why don't we just get the team. now over $60,000 has been raised. and there's a matching headband that the hospital has for every dollar that has been made so now it is up to $120,00. i never would've thought this whole movement had happened. here in new orleans it's been national. >> we will share more of that exclusive with the mario davis on friday, than the full interview will drop on fox nation. how he became a leader for the team and your breeze 's absence. his prison time and how it transformed his life and what makes the saints so incredible this season.

watch. >> laura: can we get through one show? i love him, he is awesome, can we get through one show with the new orleans saints at not being mentioned? that was a great interview. thanks so much. and coming up, our body language expert, oh, she's going to be here. what the 2020 candidates really showed us. some of the moves last night. don't miss it. stay there.

♪ >> laura: more than a year ago, when basketball superstar lebron james was trashing president trump, i kind of warned him in a flip away about the perils of amateur punditry. lebron took great umbrage to my suggestion. it was a joke. this week, when he was asked to comment on the chinese

government's furious reaction to an mba general manager's tree supporting hong kong and the freedom movement there, lebron kind of threw that sharp elbow. >> i don't want to get into a word or sentence feud with darrell. but darrell moret, but i believe he wasn't educated on the situation at hand. and he spoke. and so many people could have been harmed, not only financially but physically, emotionally, spiritually. >> laura: in other words, lebron thought kind of that the rockets' gm should have shut up and managed. when up or ensued, even among his most ardent supporters and fans, so yesterday, he tried to defend his pro-china stance. >> there is issues all over the world, the best thing we can do is if you feel passionate about it, talk about it. if you are not, or you don't

understand it, i don't think you should talk about it. that just puts you in a tough position. >> laura: especially lebron, who if he speaks out would risk losing millions of dollars. more than any other player in the league, certainly. a massive deal with nike and a big movie release in china waiting in the wings. all the money has made mr. social justice rethink the wisdom of wading into politics. at least some politics. and he is sounding a little bit more like me. >> i would be cheating my teammates by continuing to harp on something that won't benefit us. trying to win a championship, because that is what we are here for. we are not politicians. >> laura: thank you. i couldn't have said it better myself but i already did. also tonight, you heard what the 2020 democratic candidates said last night during the debate, but there's a lot to learn about what they didn't say. joining me now, body language

expert extraordinaire tanya ryman. all right, let's start with the front runners. let's do joe biden and elizabeth warren. at the end of the night, it seemed tensions were getting kind of heart. this is a good old joe addressing liz. >> i agreed with the great job she did and i went on the floor and got you votes! i got votes for that bill. i convinced people to vote for it. so let's get those things straight, too. >> it's and forcing, i feel strong about this, but it's also anger. see how his expression reads anger and what did they do, they release eye contact. one of the things that joe biden makes a point of doing is pivoting his body towards the prison he is speaking to, and in this case, after he realized she

was disrespecting him without giving him eye contact, he pivots his body away, too. >> laura: the tight thumb, i actually didn't mean that as a pun. that just came out. >> when you have your hands are frozen like this, it's more emphasis. when you open up your hands, now you're really angry. this is more emphatic. >> laura: you also noticed this about elizabeth warren when he was talking about the wealth tax last night. watch. >> all i'm saying is, you make it to the top. the top one-tenth of 1% can pitch and $0.02 so every other kid in america can have a chance. >> laura: why was she up here? >> a lot of people don't understand her gestures. her gestures actually follow her words. if you are up here, financially, then her hand goes up here. when she talks about what you need to do, she moves her hands

in and out because that is her way of demonstrating the framing of her thought process. her hand movements aren't really as wild as some might think they are. there actually thought out. >> laura: some of the candidates, the hands don't go with the words so i will take anything i can get at this point. all right, how about this from amy klobuchar going after warren. >> i'm tired of hearing whenever i say these things, always republican talking points. you are making republican talking points right now in this room by coming out for a plan that is going to do that. >> a little shaky and the boys and more pointing. >> right, when she first starts off, she normally has a little bit shaken to her voice and then as she speaks a little bit more, get a little comfortable, the shakes tend to go away. and then when she gets passed in or frustrated or angry you hear the shake again, and you hear a little bit of resting is in her voice. >> laura: you also pointed out

beto o'rourke, speaking of someone who can't gesticulating the right way, looking down after he got a shellacking from mayor pete. what does this tell us? watch. which are showing the b roll. >> here's the interesting thing, and we are watching you have to realize, nonverbal, it's all about perception. it's not that he was submissive in this clip, it's that people will perceive that looking down as a child now being scolded, because mayor pete, what he was saying was quite aggressive. he looks down up out his mouth and starts shaking his head bear that slight head negation. he came across as submissive even though it's not what he was intending to do. it's how we perceive it. >> laura: i think the winner still is joe's tomahawk chop at elizabeth warren. i mean, do you think he did that? maybe it was subconscious but it looks like the atlanta braves. he was angry.

>> people do this for emphasis all the time, that is just one more extra point. >> laura: all right. fascinating. thank you so much. we will be right back with a fabulous "last bite."

>> laura: one moment we didn't play from pelosi's tantrum was this. >> i tell him that i pray for his family, this was a very

serious meltdown. >> laura: we are praying for your health as well, always. mental, physical, all of it, that's what we do here at "the ingraham angle." shannon bream and the "fox new @ night" team take it from here. we are still celebrating the nationals. >> shannon: there are superstitions in the bream house, the hat i wore last night i have to wear for the next two weeks. we begin with a fox news alert, breaking tonight, two very different narratives emerging after a white house meeting with lawmakers about syria. democrats say president trump was rude, the president says nancy pelosi had a meltdown, it happened inside the white house cabinet room. america's top diplomat and