i don't know if it will be five years from now. >> and bag begging, please retire. as an eagles night. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." for 10 minutes hillary clinton appeared to retreat into conclusion. she went to the woods near her home looking a little lost. some people made fun of her for doing that, but in fact it was a promising start. humiliation can be the beginning of wisdom for those of us that have been fired in public. the period didn't last long. before long hillary was back on the road for years, like the circus. so many cities, so many excuses. >> the russians, wikileaks, same thing, they dumped the john podesta emails.

i have my complaints about the former director. the use of my email account was turned into the biggest scandal since lord knows when. they covered it like it was pearl harbor. if you look at facebook, the vast majority of the news -- news items posted were fake. there's all the stories about guys over in macedonia who are running these fake new sites. i inherit nothing from the democratic party. i also think i was a victim of a very broad assumption i was going to win. at the election but on octobe october 27th i would be your president. it was on october 28th and there was funny business going on. >> tucker: the russians! wikileaks, the macedonians! the democratic party itself. hillary clinton blamed them all. this is not somebody coming to terms with a loss, it was somebody refusing to admit one. in fact overtime that became her position on the whole thing.

despite what you may have heard, she didn't really lose the 2016 election. she won it, she's the real president right now. this is a reelection campaign. as recently as a few months ago, democrats would've laughed privately at that idea. not anymore. now some of them are taking hillary more seriously than they have been a long time. an article in yesterday's "new york times" describes growing panic, joe biden looks weak and incapable. much of the field clearly is too extreme to win a national election. who was going to be donald trump next year? some are starting to think it could be hillary clinton. clearly this is a thought that's crossed hillary clinton's mind. in private she has expressed her willingness to go into the race. they just added a policy suction at her website. that doesn't mean that's running, but she very well could run. to judge the likelihood of a 2020 heavily campaign, we are joined by a man who has served for decades. but to see you.

i am assuming what i just said and what we are hearing is true. if she thought she was the best position to be donald trump she would get in the race. >> i would take issue with the macedonian parts. she ran for president because she thought she would be the best person. if she still thought that now, if she thought she had the best odds of beating donald trump i think she would think about it long and hard. >> tucker: really the question and that doesn't surprise anybody. i guess the question is, has the democratic party changed so much and the last three years that it would be possible for hillary clinton to get the nomination? a lot of democrats say hillary clinton is the real president, it was stolen, but at the same time you think may be they have changed and they don't want her anymore. maybe she is to right wing. >> this is a huge if, but if she would jump in and the party has moved someplace that she hasn't,

she will get the votes. that's the point of the primary. there are still 19 people, a few that are double digits. if she would run and people would think she is to left, to left, to center, that's the beauty of it. they get to vote against whatever they want. i don't know. she is not running because she has any anxiety about the democratic field. she really likes a lot of the people running. she knows them well. she thought about some of them. there might be a reason that she would be the best person, not only to be donald trump, but to govern after donald trump. you can make fun of for all you want, but 65 million people voted for her and that second-most -- >> tucker: i'm not making fun of her >> i watch fox news. >> tucker: we don't talk about her very often. >> come on. >> tucker: at so interesting, hillary clinton was always at the left edge and has been for 50 years since her 1969 speech, she's been on the leftward edge

of the democratic party. she denounced bernie sanders medicare for all proposal is a terrible conversation to have. she's completely against it. >> the lady knows her health care. she was ahead of her time in 1994. >> tucker: to get the nomination? >> that is needed by the party is having right now. the candidates who are full medicare for all are talking about how it would be structured and he wants war against our pressing those questions. if it's a health care debate, i would take that. >> tucker: it's not just health care. i want to put a quote up. this is from 2015. here's hillary clinton's response. what should be done is and he said he should listen to the department of homeland security which as i understand, they should urge them to deport this man after he got out of prison another time. here's a case where we have deported, we've deported and he ends up back in our country. i think the city made a mistake.

the city made a mistake not to deport someone with the federal government, i have no support for a city that ignores the strong evidence that should be acted on. wow. if that is not racism, i don't know what is. >> that's not racism. >> tucker: she wants to deport the guy. >> you think deporting people is racist? >> tucker: i have personally been denounced as a racist for using the word deport. you haven't been following your pd. that is racist. >> you know i like donald trump when she was practicing for her debates. i threw those quotes at her like anything else. i threw that at her. there's a difference between now and then. the man has a record and he's been there for three years and while make america great again was the tagline that got the most attention, he said something else which was what do you have to lose? if we now ask yourself that question, 40% of us are going to say we haven't lost anything.

we have gained. 60% of us seemed to think we have lost. one of those things as immigration, peoples freedom and health care. >> tucker: when she says it's not racist, that was a couple of years ago. >> anybody who runs against donald trump, if it's a referendum on racism. >> tucker: you have somebody who is calling for explicit -- people are kept out of jobs because of their skin color. >> the bottom line is immigration and i know you believe the president and his plan on immigration has not worked. that's not what you believed it would be. >> tucker: let me ask you this. just last week she and her daughter chelsea were talking about the book. the sunday times. >> it's a book about women through the ages. >> tucker: this is an interview they did with a british publication the sunday times and they were asked, the journalist asked the clintons if somebody with a beard and a

penis but never become a woman, chelsea said yes. hillary looked uneasy and then said this, i'm just learning about this. erasing trans people in the process. it's a very big generational discussion because this is not something i grew up with or saw. it will take a lot more time and effort to be understood about dividing yourself differently. >> tucker: that is transphobia. >> the community knows where she stands. she made sure to give passports to people and relationships. she made sure that if they had a health problem. >> tucker: that's different. everyone bundles this all together. this is a very specific question about trans orthodoxy and hillary clinton is like, it makes me uncomfortable, that's creepy. you're not allowed to say that. >> if she were to run which is unlikely. if you give me a choice between betting on her running or

parable, people get to decide. it's a cottage industry. to some extent, she might as well grown. >> tucker: she's become the most reasonable person on the democratic party. >> she might be the best person to beat president pence, i mean president trump. >> tucker: thank you. >> i need some help. i'm here listening and i don't have a dvr so i can't rewind. did did not close the door on hillary clinton's open to running in 2020, to have that right? >> tucker: absolutely not. we spoke about it before. we talked about it on the show but he is nodding like this. he's not saying she isn't going to ron. he said very clearly, under certain circumstances should be happy to get it. what you think about that? >> i know that -- maybe he's not

an official spokesperson anymore, if somebody were to say to me one george w. bush thinking about running, if i said that then people would take it very seriously. i think i feel stunned right now because i thought that this was just rumormongering or you had establishment people in the democratic party where there is nobody in this very large field of what you can even figure out a way to do two debate stages to fill out all of them in a room. that they think they have to look around for somebody else. i just read a story that said even oprah is unhappy, unsatisfied, worried there is nobody in this field that could be donald trump. >> tucker: the hill everything is totally real. it doesn't mean she will do it. the possibility. >> i don't know if they're wasting our time and thinking about it because you have to get on the ballot and i also think that elizabeth warren might have an opening here. one of the thing she could do and say, i see what is

happening. the establishment, they are afraid of me. they want to shut off the opportunity for me because they're afraid i'm going to strip them of their power because i want to change how things are done. i'm going to be the disruptor. she might be able to figure out a way to get in there and make that argument. just like president trumpeted during the primary. >> tucker: i don't think there's any question about it. maybe donors are discovering that, you can spend all your time creating the perfect candidate in the laboratory, but if voters don't want to vote for the person. they're not going to be the nominee. >> exactly. that would be coming from the democrats if they were willing to do that. another thing that happened today, despite the months that he has had. joe biden getting attacked from a few democrats, but mostly from president trump. the new cnn poll showed that he has widening his lead over her. again, i go back to those parallels in 2015 and 16. the voters are going, we're good

here. we're sticking with him even though from -- if your political pundit you think, you don't have any money, excitement. the inquirer reported that at a debate watch party last week, one person showed up. compared to the rallies that president trump is having where he has all of his energy and the people are turning out to. i feel little stunned right now. >> we have one big advantage but we arty know the transparent >> tucker: what does that mean? >> we arty know the chance that will be thrown at her. we've had a head start. i'm allowed to stir the pot. i don't know. >> tucker: you not the only one stirring the pot. you've confirmed it we will stop there, thank you both. >> thank you. house democrats of course trying to impeach the president doing it behind closed doors, some republicans disrupted that effort earlier today.

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♪ >> tucker: if you're going to overturn a democratic election you should do it transparently in the open. that might reassure people. if you think that you're not a conspiracy theorists flora congressman adam schiff from burbank, california. today he was close and closed-door impeachment hearings over the republican members of congress led by matt gaetz of florida. he demanded to be let inside. watched. >> behind those doors they intend to over throw the results

of an american presidential election. we want to know what's going on. were going to go and see we can get inside. let's see if we can get in. >> tucker: he and other members ultimately delayed today's hearing by about five hours. he joins us bro thank you for coming on. what was the purpose? >> we had the audacity to want to know what was going on behind closed doors where democrats have engaged in a strategy of secret interviews, selective leaks, theatrical, weird performances of transcripts that never happened and lies about whistle-blowers. it's reasonable to suggest we would want more transparency on behalf of the millions of people we represent. >> tucker: do you have a right under congressional rules to demanded? >> there are no rules. if we had rules nancy pelosi would have put this to a vote like president clinton, president nixon. the democrats want to preserve the most like operational flexibility. if they're going to have a world

with no rules, we have to stop thinking we can use the marquis of queensberry rules of engagement one were fighting against an angry pack of rabid hyenas. i think the president is right. we need to be tougher and expose this. >> tucker: can you impeach a president without holding the vote? >> that seems to be the democrat strategy and with her trying to do -- >> tucker: are they voting? >> we appropriate money all the time without voting it. as you people show up at the middle of the night. democrats have learned a lesson from russia. they did hold open hearings and we saw a robert mueller and his failure to adequately defend his reports. we saw the corey lewandowski hearing which was a total disaster for democrats. they moved away from allowing republicans to have cross examination thorough review, testimony against documents. they're trying to use the natural advantage they have with the mainstream media to have secret interviews and selective

leaks and they're trying to pollute the american electorate. >> tucker: is there any way for the rest of us following at home to know what is going on inside? >> members of congress need to hear from their constituents. the american people need to demand more transparency and i think regardless of what people think about president trumpeted as a legitimate question to ask. why does president trump knock at the same due process from nancy pelosi and the democrats that newt gingrich gave president clinton? >> tucker: how long can this go on? >> i think that they don't want an extended process because they can't withstand any review of the facts were a long period of time. i think were on a rocket docket to impeach. if there was, the moments that nancy pelosi grabbed the gavel. the radical left cannot would make a fair debate or a fair. everything is trying to deplatform and destroy those who champion the american first

agenda and we have to stop reading and reacting. we have to be very proactive in terms of exposing this corruption. >> tucker: matt gaetz of florida, thank you very much. only wall street journal editorial board, also a new book out called, "resistance at all costs." she joins us tonight. you've spent a lot of time thinking about what is happening right now and almost running the predicate to it. what do you think is likely to happen? >> we are going forward and congressman gaetz made a really important point which is he was pointing out -- some people are pointed out that nancy pelosi hasn't pulled an authorization vote because she wanted to spare her members to do that. the dirty little secret is that it allows them to not have any rules. adam schiff can do this exactly the way he wants to do it. they can protest as they were just doing today.

there is nothing they could do to stop it. the message has to get out. there are literally, his office did a calculation about how many millions of americans their elected representatives have not been allowed to see. they transcripts from any of these events have not been allowed to see. you have got the majority of the american country whose people they sent to washington to do the work of the house have no idea what's going on. >> tucker: what is the point of this? they can't hope for a conviction, i don't think, particularly if it's as open partisan as it is. why are they doing this? >> i think they're fulfilling a campaign promise. what else can it possibly be? they're progressive-based demands this all along and you have a lot of members who ran on this and they pushed nancy pelosi and they said you have to do it or else the base will revolt. the neck went to vote unless you do this. the problem

is whether doing it, they're guaranteeing they won't get a conviction. if you cared about doing this the right weight you would be convincing people. what they're doing is giving republicans and the senate and greater reason to vote against it. >> tucker: what you said is exactly right. if you're going to impeach a president, you better convict him or else it could boomerang as it did before clinton britt i was there for that. the democrats picked up seats and that by term and it's only happened twice in the way it did in american history and it was because of impeachment. i still don't understand, what is the point? it will hurt themselves. >> the process is becoming an issue. they're doing this to jen up their base and get them to go out and vote, but for every person, i go out and i talk to americans. some people who are not huge fans of donald trump are getting motivated to vote. much as i did after the brett kavanaugh hearing. they see these radical tactics

and they feel if they need to register a protest. i'm not sure there helping themselves at all. >> tucker: they're also turning up the volume which was high already, to such a point -- the subtitle of your book. what is the effect on america? >> look at impeachment. i have a chapter on the book. if we will turn impeachment into a partisan tool, you are completely contorting the meaning of it and the framers thought about not putting it in the constitution because they were so concerned it would be misused like this. if you will do this, i tell people on the liberal side of the aisle, wanted on the road there is going to be a democratic president and a republican house, do you want to set the president for the first and that happens is impeachment? this is where were taking some of these very important tools. >> tucker: it's not good for the country at all. you don't like him, beat them in the election. >> it's only a year away. >> tucker: we have 240 years

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got caught doing it, that would include the president of nbc news. no, we learned yesterday that he has in fact had his contract renewed. how did he do that? how do you get caught covering up a harvey weinstein crime and get a new contract? any report from "the daily beast" provides a hint. turns out that his wife wrote a couple of books and has a line of baby clothes, they have talked on the air repeatedly about it. that's odd. i've never seen that arrangement on television. they have been one of the top offenders at nbc. here is another question. why was he so eager to protect harvey weinstein? it may not have been about protecting matt lauer. it turns out weinstein had something that he wanted. he was immensely powerful in "the daily beast" reports that he were to leave used his nbc post to advance a second career as a screenwriter.

that's not news people have been watching, we told you but long ago. >> nbc had this story months ago, brought to them by their former anchor. the company not only turn the story down, they actively tried to suppress it. what happened in this case? nbc news president noah hoffenheim may be the key to that question. he doesn't just oversee nbc news, he's also a screenwriter was written several films, apparently profiting from his work in hollywood as he runs the division. screenwriters of course are dependent on phone producers of whom harvey weinstein was perhaps the most powerful of a all. we reported that two years ago, they denied it and it turns out they were long and we were right. the breaking news reporter for the "washington examiner" joins us right now. thank you for coming on. it is not normal, correct me if i'm wrong, for network president

to have a spouse who enters into a business relationship with one of his anchors and then sells products. have you heard of anything like that? >> i haven't heard anything like that. >> tucker: it seems like that would give rise to conflict potentially, like real conflict. >> especially with how on airport he would go when it came down to any kind of issue. in hollywood or the harvey weinstein reporting that we have seen. >> tucker: all of this adds up to -- i mean, more than just hints of misdeeds, more than smoke. there is clearly fire here. do you think that mbc can continue -- they can continue to employ people who are caught doing this? >> it's hard to see them continuing to push forward with their current executive structure, however we haven't seen any reason to say they would change it.

>> tucker: and elect now runs the overall company, 72 years old, hoffenheim is in his early 40s. the plan is for him to serve through the selection through 2020 and then for him to ascend to the position. what you think the odds of that happening are? >> it depends on what comes out moving forward. it seems pretty unlikely that he will serve into that next possession. >> tucker: you would think. how difficult -- nbc is a liberal place. i worked there and i can tell you. it's obvious. the people who work there are nice people, but their activist liberals. how long until they have a revolt of the newsroom? >> it's interesting because you see a lot of former nbc staffers or television personalities come out. we set megyn kelly do that here. we saw chris hayes come out on his own show on msnbc to call ford and vega station. it seems unclear

moneanything stronger. >> tucker: do you think it's weird that female news employees who hold themselves up as champions of woman and empowered people, feminists, they can in effect defend someone who covering for harvey weinstein? >> we saw savannah guthrie in this latest report was a business partner of his wife. when the matt lauer allegations came out earlier in october, we saw savannah guthrie on the air express or dismay at the matt lauer accusations that came forward. she called for an investigation, expressed how shocking it was that matt lauer was accused of that years ago. she still is "the daily beast" reported earlier today has gone on the record and defended noah hoffenheim and called for him to keep his job. >> tucker: i have always liked

savannah guthrie. she is a very nice person. it's hard to understand why she is doing this. great to see you and thank you. last night on this program grown in pharaoh's producer explained how he was treated by nbc's leadership. >> at one point you say, noah oppenheimer was exchanging texts and gifts with harvey weinstein after killing your investigation into him. how do you feel about that? >> i was pretty upset to learn a lot of that stuff to be honest. i have no animosity against these people, but that's clear to me that we relied tom mack were lied to you over and over again. it's not right coming from a news organization. >> despite the growing pile of evidence, they still have their jobs. tammy bruce hosts every weeknight on fox nation.

we when she was every weeknight. tammy, what you make of this? you are always able to connect the macro themes to today's news. the story seems redolent. >> "the daily beast" or i think is very good because it touches on a lot of issues. your interview last night also was very valuable. after everything with what this network has gone through and other networks, the education everybody has had with the nature of the workplace, but also the education of the importance, if you have the power of the security to stand up against an abusive environment. that's one thing to have an abuser, that person man or woman who is doing their thing. if you are in a position of power and you're not involved and your job is going to be okay, if you can stand up against it and make the workplace better for everyone. if you don't do that, that makes you as bad as the perpetrator

one may be even worse because you are in a position where you can make a change. this is where the savannah guthrie, she also defended him and said to the chairman, that he should keep his job. one has to wonder, do you only come out if you have been fired? do you only condemn someone if there is blood on the water? is the challenge and may be chris hayes is the best example and all of our experiences of saying something at the time, when there may be some risk? ultimately it should be the sanitizing of fact of sunlight, people having this conversation and also the internal talent. women like guthrie, they're very respected and doing a very good job britt i don't know either one of them. instead of defending that, being willing to say, we can do better. the argument was, the same with

harvey weinstein. don't bother them because either the ratings will go down or he so good on the issues. when matt lauer went, "the today show" ratings went up and never came back down. these are excuses and we all have a role to play and women in particular in the workplace. >> tucker: i think that's right. there is a theme here though that connects the store to so many other stories in corporate america which is that no one is ever punished for screwing up. ever. >> it's usually a small group and the idea and the notion of having other business ventures entwined. a savannah guthrie doing very good in a business with his wife, it seems like there is an effort. the same with weinstein and may be the matt lauer information of creating webs that sometime make it difficult to speak up and say, needs to end.

may be because people get comfortable with the status quo. >> tucker: if your boss came to you or me and said, would you go into business with my spouse? would that make you uncomfortable? >> it depends on the nature. part of the nbc statement is that, this is standard operating procedure. hosts all the time have books, but this is a news division and not the executives. >> tucker: we don't do this at fox. that's crazy. >> when you're forward facing is one thing, it's another thing for executives to use the environment to forward a personal agenda of their own and using a spouse. it makes it very difficult to then be able to stand upon your own and speak out against it. >> tucker: you are the head of the news division and your writing movie scripts? >> it's a web that becomes kind of sick and yet, obvious on the surface and nbc universal,

comcast, someone should be able to make a better decision. >> tucker: great to see you tonight. one of the biggest scams we have seen in a long time has been exposed in the business world, but instead of going to prison, the perpetrator is getting nearly $2 billion. this is a particularly unbelievable story. scientist discovered good news about the ozone layer. that's ahead. ♪

♪ >> tucker: and looks like the end could be near for a company that was talked about as the most valuable start up in the world. earlier this year the company

was valued almost $50 billion. they often described them as a tech company, but that was never right. it was a real estate operation. office space in big cities and then write today to individuals or small companies. that's fine, i guess but it's hardly a revolutionary idea. investors always want more flash, so the ceo of the company adam newman posted a world transforming ceo and babbled about making himself immortal of becoming the firs first ever trn were using it solve world hunger somehow. they were banned from buying meat because climate. meanwhile, he himself bombed around in a $60 million private jet. it worked. they attracted billions of dollars in investment based on its rapid growth. there was no real growth, in reality it was a bloated office rental company with more expenses than revenue.

he made millions by buying up properties and then leasing them to his own company. in other words, he looked a lot like an old-fashioned scam. here is the dispiriting part, it worked. softbank, one of the investors just announced that's paying him $1.7 billion to step down as head of the company. give up his voting rights for running a sham corporation. he is not a billionaire. has employees, there is the rest of the story. most of them got nothing. they have postponed thousands of layoffs because it can even afford to play employees a severance package. this cash infusion won't save jobs, it will allow the company to fire people. that is infuriating, it's also a metaphor for the broader finan finance. this is not sustainable. don't lie to yourself and someday when alexandra court

becausalexandriaocasio-cortez d. you know what happens. you've taken a good look at this company. what was the business model he here? >> it's pretty much as you described. i'm going to fly around and go to los angeles, new york, london and find the most expensive buildings i can and get into really long leases and spending money. i'm going to rent them out on a daily basis to people who can afford their own office. that was pretty much it. really. >> tucker: how is that worth billions? the most overfunded start up of the year, if not decades. >> it's the same kind of unicorn silicon valley tech bubble we've been suffering. the same nonsense, apparently the world of we work was fundamentally transformed.

none of us go to work. we all need a hot task and people apparently buy this and chuck billions of dollars when it's a fantasy. >> it's a scam i would say. >> it's totally a scam. in previous generations when you were caught running a ponzi or ripping people off, you are punished. goldberger's went to jail. these guys, this guy walked off with $1.7 billion. how did that happen? >> that's an outrageous question. how can you authorize such a payment? the guy has basically acquired these as part of a fraud, why are you buying them from him? this is a massive failure. the basics of what we understand of capitalism. we are risk and reward. if you go to a world like that, it's not just a loser takes everything. how can you have faith in that system? >> tucker: you can't and it's not just this guy. i will give them this, he was

quite a great actor. he was a flamboyant character. they presided over the implosion of that company's value and walked off with more than a hundred million dollars. you see this all the time. how long can this continue? >> it can continue until basically investors wake up and smell the coffee. it can continue until politicians recognize it as a fundamental problem. capitalism works best and it does work very well sometimes when not just risk and reward are balanced, but basic investment decisions pay off lots of different people. if you have a world that which you have a handful of people who have so much money there personally too big to fail. they can fail and fail again and investment in stupid stuff that has no value. that's a problem. >> tucker: speaking of that problem, another failure like we work, it tanks the broader

economy. >> that could happen. we worry about things like corporate debt and low interest rates, if you've an ipo value of 47 billion, let's assume this goes through and they find out it's a fraud to. then what happens if the stock market finds out and everybody starts to dump it? the reverberations could be quite consequential. wells fargo, little while ago, let's remember all the other things that have been going on. this stuff gets normalized and that's really dangerous because that's why people lose faith. >> tucker: it's true and they also get radical. we will get a radical system unless we get this under control. it's great to see you. thank you for that. biological mail just dominated the competition at a women's cycling race, not all women are happy about it. some are saying the obvious, that's not fair. we'll talk about it after the break. ♪

♪ '>> tucker: women's sports exist in a separate reality, men and women are different physically and in some sports it would be unfair for women to compete on the same playing field as a man. for centuries we have recognized that and for decades women have benefited from having access to a separate playing field. now the gender identity is just running that.

last week, a biological mail won the cycling world championship and set a world record in doing so. now several current and former cyclists are coming out to defend their support from a takeover by men. a board member at women's liberation front, happy to have her back on the show. what is the case they're making that -- you are making against what happened? >> thank you for having me here and i want to take brief issue, i want to say there are many democrats and people who identify as being on the left who are very angry about a takeover of woman sports and how the democratic party is there. >> tucker: you are on the left and i was stress and the commercial break, takes guts for you to come on the show. >> thank you for having me. i am a lifelong member of the democratic party and many of us can get a voice on the media. i'm grateful. >> tucker: let's point this out. if you had told me and i cover

politics and have for 30 years. five years ago there be a consensus that you're not allowed to question this. so be insane. today there is that consensus. what happened? >> agreed. getting back to the case at ha hand. mckinnon is a male cyclist who won a championship in the women's cycling competition and manchester, england, and there are many feminists, women who are questioning the right of male athletes to compete in women's sports and this seems to be unacceptable for us to take this position, but we will continue to take this position that it's unacceptable for male's to compete. it's very important in this country for the purposes of maintaining title ix protections for women and girls which is something that my organization, the liberation front cares abo about. >> tucker: you are making a pretty straightforward reality based case and by doing so you

risk that. physical harm. >> social authorization. risk to livelihood. i personally know several women who have been fired from positions or voicing concerns for the privacy and safety of women and girls. i want to also make the point that many of your viewers may not understand that there are many people on the political left including, especially feminists,, gay man and bisexual people who are gravely concerned about what the democratic party is doing on the topic of gender and pushing the notion that men can be women and women can be men. first of all, it's progressive politically because it aligns with the notion of gender which we want to abolish, but it's also inaccurate scientifically. there are many democrats who are willing to say this, but many of your viewers may not know that

because we are generally subjected to a media blackout. >> tucker: you are always welcome on the show. i never hear from them, ever. >> you don't hear from them, the reason is that those of us on the left, democrats cannot get a voice on npr. we cannot get a voice on "the new york times," "the washington post." we have tried. we have said we have an feminist and gay rights objection to the trans movement, trans-ideology and no one will hear us or publish us. >> tucker: as i said, you're always welcome on the show and i'm happy you came tonight. thank you very much. that's it for us tonight. i wish we had more time. tune in every night at 8:00 p.m., the show that is the sworn enemy. we are on demeter if you can figure out how you can do that. good night from washington d.c. this show will transition

220 miles to the north. sean hannity will take the helm from new york city. have a great night. ♪ ♪ >> sean: hi, welcome to this busy news breaking addition reporting from california. were on the west coast and tonight we have breaking news on multiple fronts. at moments, lindsey graham will join us to respond to susan rice, calling him a piece of the dash. we start in the washington swamp where house republicans are today fighting back against this corrupt, secret behind closed doors, smoke-filled room, the impeachment coup attempts. hours ago, a group of lawmakers literally stormed into yet another top-secret session of the corrupt adam schiff's kangaroo court. once again