a short time from now. thanks for joining us. >> he's speaking to reporters before he departs for south carolina. you know he has a lot on his mind. >> next hour, i'll have that for you. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> fox news alert. we've been covering the funeral of congressman elijah cummings that passed away last week. a huge voice in the house of representatives. with his passing today, we knew the funeral would be filled with notable speakers and beautiful comments. it certainly has been as we've shown you some of that. we're awaiting next to hear from former presidents bill clinton and barack obama. as that happens, we'll bring that to you live. already we've heard memories and eulogies from many members of congress starting off with nancy pelosi and of course we saw the former secretary of state, hillary clinton. keep watching.

we'll bring you this live as soon as it happens. we're also awaiting remarks from president trump who is speaking to the media right now. as he's leaving the white house headed for columbia, south carolina. sources are telling fox news that the justice department's review of the russia investigation have become a full-fledged criminal investigation allowing u.s. attorney john durham the power to subpoena witnesses and file charges. the news comes as the justice department inspector general michael horowitz is finalizing his report into alleged fisa surveillance abuses. john ratcliffe thinks the two go together. >> i think when people read the inspector general's impending report, it will be very clear why the durham investigation has now moved to a criminal probe,

which will allow him to enpanel a grand jury and bring in witnesses and perhaps bring criminal charges. >> this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. we have dagen mcdowell, executive of the serve america pact marie harpf. and we have bill mcgurn. he's outnumbered. i love introducing you. a lot going on there. >> i am outnumbered. i have three daughters and a wife. this is another night at the dinner table for me. >> this is one of my favorite people in the building. he's one of the smartest. i don't want to offend anybody. you as well. >> i pretty much tackle bill in the lobby when i see him. i want to pick his brain.

>> you want to know what's going on. >> my daughters have a different point of view. >> excited to have you here. a lot going on. it fits into your coverage editorially of all of it. is this a game change, to have a guy like john durham on the case? because everything that i'm learning, bill, is that he is dogged in his chase of whatever it is. now he's scooped up a lot of power as this becomes a criminal investigation. what will we likely see? >> well, if you contrast it with bob mueller's investigation, which was counter intelligence investigation, you know, criminal investigation is somewhat different. since he's a u.s. attorney and they do criminal investigations all the time, i'm not sure what the actual designation is, the difference that it means. presumably he's been investigating these things. if he suspects there's criminal activity, he will act. so maybe it's more official now. i'd rather see reports than

constantly -- we're getting snippets and little changes. i want to read the report. >> just before we widen it out to the couch, you know, as we look at where the russia investigation kind of started and bill barr and his testimony before and the hearing initially saying this is a place where he was going to be. are you at all surprised that we're doing a deep dive, as you say, in terms of this? >> no. the more we learn, the more questions we have. that's what the attorney general said when he was appearing before congress. he didn't say i know there's been wrongdoing but the answers he's been given to explain why the intelligence agencies behaved the way they did weren't satisfying. the way its proceeding suggested that there's more questions about this. plus, he and they have presumably read the i.g. report, which i'm going by reports -- >> we're all waiting since june. >> he can only interview people that are still in the building.

>> he can only compel those people. he can ask. >> right. >> is lying on the fisa warrant, is that a criminal act? is that -- >> i think it is. i don't know whether -- i would think that that is a big question in the i.g.'s investigation. i mean, there's also a question with prosecutors. i mean, i think they behave badly. but there's a question of why they behave badly. a lot of the president's opinions is they behave badly because they want to bring him down. that could be. but prosecutors tend to believe that they're prosecuting the worst guy in the world when they can just be overzealous. that's the real question. what was the intent of what they put in the fisa warrant and how they verified it. >> marie, you know, you can look at this without political lens and you can say the problem here is that you start off an investigation looking with the premise and narrative that it's

not necessarily a crime, collusion. we saw that. as you go deeper to see where the investigation started, it makes us look at the fisa warrant situation and those courts, which are supposed to be secretive. maybe it needs a closer look. you think democrats would step up and take part in this voluntarily? it does benefit everybody. >> it remains to be seen if it benefits every one. you heard from mark warner, the ranking member today saying he wants barr to come testify about this. he and senator burr have been running a bipartisan comprehensive look at the russia investigation. they haven't found anything that they thought rose to a criminal level. so they want barr to come testify. so the real answer, harris, we don't know. criminal investigations could be about everything from leaking of classified information. there's some reports -- >> it would be nice if they start there. that's rampant right now.

>> could be reports of leaks of the transcripts of mike flynn's phone call. although i think transparency is good -- >> we know they lied on the fisa warrant. we do know that. that state department official, kathleen kavalek met with steele, documented his motivations that she said his client was keen to see the anti-trump materials come to light. his claims about the miami whatever -- the miami consulate where they were looking at russian assets. she forwarded that and let the fbi officials know that he wasn't credible before they went to the fisa court. nine days later and signed that there was no question about the credibility of this witness. that is for sure a lie. >> let me finish my thought. >> and also hillary clinton's role is very vague. >> none of us have seen the fisa warrant. we've seen bits and pieces that leaked out. i would love to see it. none of us have seen it. a criminal investigation, my

point is, it can mean many things. it can mean big things and small things. i think barr should testify about it because the more information we can hear about this i think the better. there's been a lot of allegations and accusations. we don't have the information. >> dagen? >> i would guess that bill barr would say if it's an on going investigation, he would say i can't comment on an ongoing criminal investigation. i talked to andy mccarthy that worked in justice. he said there were many, many investigations he did and it doesn't always mean you bring charges. you have to wait and see what happens. >> this gives him subpoena power and witnesses and -- >> he can panel a special grand jury or he can use a regular grand jury. i just want to finish this. we have a norm in this country where you're in power, you don't abuse law enforcement and the intelligence community to put your thumb on the scale in an election. you don't abuse the surveillance powers. ultimately as andy has said, the american people will demand that they get taken away from you,

andy mccarthy. >> another andy in all of this at the fbi. i was just -- >> we need to get to the bottom of this properly predicated, what was the evidentiary base of this. what was john brennan's role. the american people deserve that. without drawing any conclusions. >> i agree with both of you. the answers and information -- i think the intelligence agencies behaved really badly. it's hard to have an innocent explanation for what they did and the use of the steele dossier coming out through the fbi, the state department and so forth. so i think there's -- there could be criminal charges. we don't normally settle our political disputes with criminal charges. the most important thing to the american people is to find out what happened. that's why it's discouraging. it looks like the fbi and the

cia are fighting this action. i'd like bill barr to go up there but after the information has been put out to declassify documents, all of these redacted areas. that's more important to me, who did what and why than necessarily criminal -- and i think -- if criminal charges are warranted -- >> you don't punish people for do that, they do it again. it's like lying to congress. >> i want transparency. i worked in the obama administration. we didn't do anything wrong. >> a member of the trump campaign was spied on. that warrant was gotten with evidence -- with information, the steele dossier, that was paid for by president trump's opponent. we do know that. we know that -- and we also know that durham's probe is a criminal inquiry in part because

of the upcoming report from the i.g., the horowitz, the inspector general on the alleged fbi surveillance abuses. >> we also know that they reuped on those fisa warrants, too. some of the people that handled that were republicans. so there's been a question of was that court actually manipulated or lied to via evidence that should have never been entered. >> i just want to add that in terms of the steele dossier, which we -- it smells bad from here. "the new york times" reporting about this becoming a criminal investigation, framed it as politically tainted without evidence. it did not mention that steele dossier once in that article. >> the fisa process is very secretive. when you have a secretive process, you need more safe guards. i'm of the view there shouldn't be fisa courts. the judges -- >> i'm hearing that argument a lot. >> as in this case, the judges

can't evaluate. they don't -- it's not their expertise. >> and they also -- >> it's like -- >> they also avoid accountability. the judge signed off on it. that's the defense. >> the white house says they will cancel subscriptions for "the new york times" and "washington post"s and may instruct federal agencies to do the same thing and save taxpayer money. we'll get to it. for a lot of employees, the papers are free. and joe biden putting the spotlight on president trump's children amid scrutiny over his own son's bill dealings in ukraine. whether flipping the script is a smart strategy for joe biden, the 2020 candidate. >> they can speak for themselves. i can tell you this. if i'm president, elected president, my children won't have an office in the white house. my children are not going to sit

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>> a fox news alert. we're waiting to show you the videotape of the president moments ago. we don't show them live as you well know. it's a moment or two later. so we're waiting for that. the president is departing. we're getting some notes of what he's been talking with the media about. investigate the investigators, great attorney general, honorable man. can't tell you what is happening but i can tell you i think you'll see a lot of bad things. the president now. >> the stock market is doing very well.

the economy is booming. we have a new record in sight. could happen even today. we have a new stock market. it will be about 118 times that we've broken the record. jobs look phenomenal. we're doing very well in syria, turkey and everybody else that we're dealing with. we have secured the oil. we have a lot of oil. we've secured the oil. we have a couple of people that came knocking. we said don't knock. i think -- i would say things are going very well. i know people are still in the basement, in a secure room in the basement trying to make us look as bad as possible. it's not working too well. a lot of things are happening. i appreciate republicans. they're just outraged and the american public is outraged that the do-nothing democrats are doing nothing. there's such an opportunity to

get things. we need usmca passed. it's a great deal for our country, for our farmers. it's a great deal for our country. we need usmca passed. >> [question inaudible] >> it's a word that many democrats have used. it's a word that many people have used over the years. but that's a word that's been used many times. let me tell you something, the level of unfairness for a perfect conversation with the president of ukraine, this was a perfect conversation. and frankly had they known what the conversation was, they wouldn't have even wasted everybody's time. this was a perfect conversation with the president of ukraine. president of ukraine and his foreign minister separately came out and said there was absolutely nothing wrong with the conversation. president of ukraine and a

foreign minister came out and said there was no anything. there was no -- he used the word "no blackmail." they said there was no pressure. nothing done wrong. this is a hoax just like there was no collusion after two years they found out and wasted $45 million. this is a disgrace that this could happen to our country. but remember -- wait, wait. the president of ukraine right new, the president of ukraine said no pressure. the president of ukraine at his foreign minister said again, no pressure, no blackmail. they don't even know what you people are talking about. it's a hoax. it's a hoax. it's just a continuation of the russian witch hunt, which turned out to be phony. the mueller deal was phony. now they have this. all it is very simple. it's one conversation that i had

with the president of ukraine that was perfect. that adam schiff defrauded everybody and he made up the conversation in the halls of congress. >> are you worried about the criminal investigation to rudy guliani? >> i don't think so. because i think rudy is a great gentleman. he's been a great crime fighter. he looks for corruption wherever he goes. everybody understands ukraine has big problems in that regard. rudy guliani is a fine man. he was the greatest mayor in the history of new york and he's been one of the greatest crime fighters and corruption fighters. rudy guliani is a good man. >> would you like to see your justice department still investigate biden? >> i think what biden did and his son and now they're finding also romania, that just came out or some other country and i'm sure there's more than that. when a man walks away who has no talent, no skill, no experience

with $1.5 billion out of china, when he walks away with $168,000 a month for him and his friends from ukraine, when ukraine supposedly gave him $3 million, whatever the numbers are, then he's got no experience in oil, no experience anywhere and now other nations are coming out. i heard one today, i want embarrass the nation. all he's doing in my opinion, that's a pay-off. you don't pay that kind of money for any other reason and then you look at what the father did with oil. let's get oil and all of a sudden let's not get oil. now he's a great environmentalist. ukraine benefits by that and other places benefit by that. no, i consider what they did to be an outrage to our country. >> [question inaudible] >> i consider that to be an outrage to our country.

>> [question inaudible] >> some of them weren't even spoken to yet. they got 40 very quickly. i think 47. some of them haven't even -- don't even know about it yet. it only took place yesterday afternoon. so they had a great response. we have great support. we had 185 out of 185 the other night, the republican congressmen. i think we had 185 present. we had 185 positive votes. with the senators, we're doing great things. >> [question inaudible] >> we're doing very well with china. we're dealing with them right now. moving along nicely. a lot of good things are happening with china. they want a deal very badly. >> [question inaudible]

>> we're moving with afghanistan. doing well in afghanistan. slowly bringing things down to a certain level. we're doing very well. things are moving along. >> [question inaudible] >> the problem -- here's the problem. here's the problem. he's a never-trumper and his lawyers are never trumper. the other problem is -- hey, everybody makes mistakes. mike pompeo, everybody makes mistakes. he's a never trumper. his later is the head of the never trumpers. they're a dying breed but they're still there. here's the other problem. you're with cnn. you're fake news.

>> [question inaudible] >> they have to do usmca, they have to do guns. many things -- we want to reduce drug prices even more. we can go so far. we can get drug prices down. the do-nothing democrats have no time to do it. >> [question inaudible] >> he which ones? >> [question inaudible] >> we have a great republican plan and if we take over the house, which we should, especially because of what they're doing with impeachment, i think we'll take over the house by big numbers. you'll have healthcare, the likes of which you have never seen. much less expensive. deductibles will be lower. you'll have great healthcare. why have to take over -- because the democrats don't have time to to anything.

>> [question inaudible] >> well, i know he made the speech yesterday. i went over the speech. the speech was fine. it was fine. his speech was fine. i'm also working very closely with china on a deal. his speech was fine. >> are you trying to intimidate the whistle-blower? >> [question inaudible] >> we're doing very well with china. very good with the farmers. the farmers are going to do better than maybe everybody. china wants a deal. they'd like to see some reductions in tariffs. they'd like to see tariffs that are scheduled to go on very soon. they'd like to see them not go on. but china -- look, you know it. they really want a deal. they're going to be buying much more farm products than anybody ever thought possible.

>> [question inaudible] >> only for one reason. i did nothing wrong. the only reason. i had a perfect conversation with the president of ukraine. perfect. had they seen that conversation before they made up the story -- they made up the story. had they seen it, we wouldn't even be talking about it right now. the conversation has been perfect. for that reason, i have tremendous support. >> [question inaudible] >> so they started and it's been going on a long time. i read the papers probably in greater detail than you, actually. i try and sift out the fake news from the real news. but as you know, there's been a long-term look at -- looksy and

looks like it's becoming very serious from what i'm saying. investigate the investigators. whether it's page, clapper, comey, all of these people. terrible things went on for our country. we have a great attorney general a highly honorable man. they've been looking at it for a long time. i can tell you what is happening. i will tell you this: i think you're going to see a lot of really bad things. a lot of people think that -- and they know they have problems because they were very dishonest. again, i leave it all up to the attorney general. i leave it all up to the people that are working with the attorney general who i don't know. i will say this: you'll see things that nobody would have believed. this was the worst hoax in the history of our country. a lot of people say the phony deal on impeachment where i had a perfect conversation with the

president of ukraine and they're using that to impeach one of the most successful presidents. we're going to hit another stock market high. we have the best jobs report. we have the best unemployment numbers. we have the best employment. more people working today in the united states than ever before. i've rebuilt the military. we're strong. we just did a great thing in syria where we're getting our troops out. we took over oil. a lot of great things are happening in this country. i will say this: if anything ever happens with this phony witch hunt that the democrats are doing, the do-nothing democrats, i believe that you'd have a recession depression the likes of which this country hasn't seen. now, a strong statement was made by a very highly respected man this morning on wall street. a man who is very respected about that. that if anything happened to trump, president trump, you would see repercussions in the

market like you haven't seen before. but here's the thing. i don't have teams. everybody is talking about teams. i'm the team. i did nothing wrong. this has been going on since before i got elected. this was going on from the insurance policy strzok and his lover, page. this was the insurance policy with strzok and page. we did nothing wrong. strzok said oh, she's going to win, she's going to win. but if she doesn't, we have an insurance policy. so let me just tell you something, this has been going on since before i got elected. people are angry about it. you know who is angry about it? the republican party is angry about it. this isn't a take-down of the president. this is a take-down of the republican party. frankly, the democrats should be ashamed of themselves.

>> [question inaudible] >> if you let me know who they are. who are they? tell me. tell me who the never-trumpers are. i'm not a fan of the never-trumpers. we do have them. i'm not a fan. i think they're bad people. some have recovered. so kay? they went through i guess a recovery program. it's called they learned how to win through me. but others haven't. i'm not a fan of never-trumpers and i never will be. but a nevertrumper sometimes is more vicious than a failed obama candidate or a failed clinton candidate who i beat in the same election with very little experience. don't forget. i beat the obama people. i beat the bush people. i beat the clinton people. i had no experience.

that's not a bad job. but there's a lot of angry people out there. that's the way it goes. thank you. >> president trump right there answering questions from reporters talking about china, the market, the investigation, the durham probe, which we understand has turned into a full-fledged criminal probe. touching on joe biden and hunter biden and the $1.5 billion that he talked about being given to hunter biden but was invested in a fund that hunter biden is a partner in. we don't know what portion of that money he get when they exit that fund. that is still down the road. now we want to take you to the capitol and elijah cummings' funeral. this is former president bill clinton. let's listen. >> depending on people giving voice to them in elections. in a debate.

then i got to listen to elijah talk that day. you talk about a lousy deal. it was -- i had to follow both the bishop and elijah cummings. at least i'm ahead of you and president obama today. [laughter] in my old age, i'm the warm up act. i'm glad to do it. anyway, elijah was great. and he ended with his quiet and reasoned and rhythmic voice growing into his booming voice by quoting that wonderful verse from the 40th chapter of isaiah. those that wait on the lord will have their strength renewed and

will wind up with eagles. he kept doing more and more. the crowd was going crazy. over the course of these last few days, i've had a chance to think a lot about elijah's life. he really did sort of mirror isaiah. who had one of the greatest one-liners in the history of human affairs. when the lord asked whom shall i send and whom will go for me. isaiah said here am i, lord, send me. elijah cummings spent a life saying send me. [applause] an entire lifetime.

it's not even a teenager when he hauls down to the swimming pool and joins a group to integrate it. for his trouble, he gets banged on his head leaving a lifetime score which he wore with honor. and then the people of baltimore sent him to annapolis and then to washington. on behalf of the rest of the nation, i'd like to thank you. you did a good thing. [applause] and then i was looking over all of the things that he worked on just in the four years we were together. he was elected the year i was re-elected, 1996. he had this amazing array of interests.

we all know now that at least until certain things happened, his legacy is how ardently he honored his oath to protect and defend the constitution of the united states. [applause] i think he did it for a lot of reasons. he loves the fact that his parents humbled lives made his a great american story. and he loved that it confirmed his nate. he knew without the constitution, the laws passed under it, the rights guaranteed by it and the abuses it was designed to prevent, without that constitution, he wouldn't have been in congress and so he

said to himself, i am certain every day i will not let this promise be gone. and he did his best. and while doing his best and fighting his heart out, sticking up for hillary and lots of other people, many of whom were voiceless and weak and will never be known, while doing all of that, he actually made one of the most partisan periods in our country's history a lot of republican friends. why did he to that? how did he do that? i think he did it because everybody could see he was a

real deal. if he was doing what he believed, his heart was in it. and i think he did it -- [applause] -- because no matter how hard he fought and how passionately he argued, he tried to treat everybody the way he wanted to be treated. the way he thought america should be treated. [applause] you know, you can't run a free society if you have to hate everybody you disagree with. [applause] i mean, sooner or later, if you've been married 45 years, both of you are thinking you're going to have a disagreement or two, sooner our later if you're in a business or a team or in a campaign and you're thinking

you're going to have disagreements, he believed that he should treat people the way he wanted to be treated. he believed if everybody accepted his broad endearing and inclusive definition of one america, where we respect our differences and think what we have in common matters more and we all live under the same set of rules and we all believe that under those rules those of us that have more than we need should do more to help those that don't have enough, everything would work out okay. [applause] that's what he believes. and being friends, he was so proud that he could help resolve the personal spat between his republican congressional friends

and the member of the democratic caucus. he believed. so here's what i want to leave you with. elijah spent his working life in a tradition of isaiah. he went again and again and again. but i think in his lasting legacy to us, we should think again about the prophet elijah for this reason. he was about to be killed for his ardent promotion of his faith. he hid in a cave either within

or next to mount sinai. he received a message from god to go up and stand on top of the mountain and wait for the voice of god to speak to him. he had had a hard time. just like at the end of elijah's life, he had a hard time. you have to go through this, too? so there's elijah standing on the mountain. a huge wind came so strong it broke the rocks of the mountain. the lord was not in the wind. then an earthquake came, shaking everything. the lord was not in the earthquake. then the fire came. but the lord was not in the

fire. and then what to the scriptures say? a still small voice. elijah by that point had gotten rid of all the pomp, all the circumstance, all the glory for this still small voice. i love this man. i loved every minute i ever spent with him, every conversation we ever had. i loved his booming voice. but we should hear him now in the quiet times at night and in the morning when we need courage. when we get discouraged and we don't believe anymore. we should hear him. [applause]

but our elijah be for us what he himself heard, the still small voice. keeps us going, keeps us grateful, keeps us happy. keeps us moving. thank you. god bless you. [applause] >> the 42nd president of the united states, bill clinton there. giving his remarks reminding everybody that congressman elijah cummings said that he wanted to treat everybody the same way he wanted to be treated. you know, you can't run a free society if you have to hate everybody you disagree with. those are the words of bill clinton. now we await the 41st president of the america, america's first

black president. why is that significant? because -- here's president obama. >> to the cummings family, maya, mr. president, madam secretary, madam speaker, governor, friends, colleagues, staff, the seed on good soil, the parable

tells us, stand for those with a noble and good heart who hear the word, retain it and by persevering, produce a crop. the seed on good soil. elijah cummings came from good soil. [applause] in this sturdy frame, goodness took root. his parents were share croppers from the south.

they picked tobacco and strawberries and then sought something better in this city, south baltimore. robert worked shifts at a plant and ruth cleaned other people's homes. they became parents of seven. preachers to a small flock. i remember i had the pleasure of meeting elijah's mother, ruth. she told me she prayed for me every day. and i knew it was true. and i felt better for it. sometimes people say they're praying for you and you don't know. [laughter]

they might be praying about you. [laughter] but you don't know if they're praying for you. but i knew miss ruth was telling the truth. so they were the proverbial salt of the earth. they passed on that strength and that grit, but also that kindness and that faith to their son. as a boy, elijah's dad made him shine his shoes and tie his tie and they'd go to the airport not to board the airplanes but to watch others do it. i remember elijah telling me

this story. robert would say i have not flied, i may not fly. but you will fly one day. [applause] we can't afford it right now, but you will fly. as grandmother, as elijah related and as grandmothers do, with a little more inpatient with her advice. your daddy, she said, he had been waiting and waiting and waiting for a better day. don't you wait. elijah did not wait. against all odds, elijah burned his -- earned his degrees and learned about the rights people

in this country are supposed to possess apparently with a help help from perry mason, eli jay became a lawyer to make sure that others had rights. and his people had their god-given rights. and from the state house to the house of representatives, his commitment to justice and the rights of others would never ever waiver. elijah's example, a son of parents that rose from nothing to carve out just a little somethi something. a public servant that toiled to guarantee the least of us have the same opportunities that he had earned. a leader who once said he would

die for his people. even if he lived every minute for them. his life validates the things that we tell ourselves about what is possible in this country. not guarantee d, but possible. the possibility that our destinies are not preordained. but rather to our works and our dedication and our willingness to open our hearts to god's message of love for all people. we can live a purposeful life. we can reap a bountiful harvest. we're neither sentenced to wither among the rocks, nor assured a bounty but we have the

capacity, the chance as individuals and as a nation to root ourselves in good soil. elijah understood that. that's why he fought for justice. that's why he embraced this beloved community of baltimore. that's why he went on to fight for the rights and opportunities of forgotten people all across america. not just in his district. [applause] he was never complacent. he knew that without clarity of purpose and a steadfast faith and the dogged determination

demanded by our liberty, the promise of this nation can wither. complacency he knew was not only corrosive for our collective lives but for our individual lives. it's been remarked that elijah was a kind man. i tell my daughters and i have to say listening to elijah's daughters speak, that got me choked up. i'm sure those of you have sons feel the same way. but there's something about daughters and their father. [applause] and i was thinking, i'd want my

daughters to know how much i loved them, but i'd also want them to know that being a strong man includes being kind. [applause] that there's nothing weak about kindness and compassion. there's nothing weak about looking out for others. there's nothing -- there's nothing weak about being honorable. you're not a sucker to have integrity and to treat others with respect. [applause] i was sitting here and i was noticing the honorable elijah e.

cummings. you know, this is a title that we confer on all kinds of people that get elected to public office. [laughter] we're supposed to introduce them as honorable. [laughter] but elijah cummings was honorable before he was elected to office. there's a difference. there's a difference if you were honorable and treated others honorably. outside the limelight.

on the side of a road. in a quiet moment counselling somebody you work with. letting your daughters know you love them. [applause] you know, as president, i knew i could count on a large being honorable and doing the right thing. people have talked about his voice. there is something about his voice. it made you feel better. some people, the deep baritone. a prophetic voice. when it was good times and we achieved victories together, that voice and that laugh was a gift. but you needed it more during tough times. when the path ahead looked

crooked, when obstacles abound abounded. when i entertain doubts or i saw those in the fight start to waiver, that's when elijah's voice mattered most. more than once during my presidency, when the economy still looked like it might plunge into depression, when the health care bill was pronounced dead in congress, i would watch elijah rally his colleagues. the cost of doing nothing isn't nothing. he would say. folks would remember why they entered into public service. our children are the living messengers we sent with future

we will never see, he would say, and he would remind all of us that our time is too short not to fight for what's good and what is true and what is best in america. 200 years to 300 years from now, he would say, people will look back at this moment and they will ask the question, what did you do? and hearing him, we would be reminded that it falls on each of us to give voice to the voiceless and comfort to the sick and opportunity to those not born to it, and to preserve and nurture our democracy. elijah cummings was a man of noble and good heart.

his parents and his faith planted the seeds of hope and love and compassion and righteousness in that good soil of his. he has harvested all the crop that he could. for the lord has now called elijah home to give his humble, faithful servant rest. it now falls on us to continue his work. other young boys and girls in baltimore, across maryland, across the united states, and around the world might to have a chance to grow and to flourish. that's how we will honor him.

that's how we will remember him. that's what he would hope for. may god bless the memory of the very honorable elijah cummings. and may god bless the city and this state and this nation that he loved. god bless you. thank you. speak to the 44th president of the united states, barack obama, in his eulogy and remarks about congressman elijah cummings. he said cummings reminds us all that being a strongman means being kind. the funeral continues in baltimore, maryland, at a church where cummings attended for decades. the new psalmist baptist church, and we have shown you presidents bill clinton and barack obama who were there among those who were talking. a highlight today among some might be the spouse of

elijah cummings and her very poignant and very powerful remarks ahead of both of the former presidents. we wanted to bring you that today. you are watching "outnumbered over time." i am harris faulkner. fox news alert on this. we showed you live the president talking outside the white house weighing on just last hour as the justice department's review of the russia investigation's origins, how it all began, has now taken a dramatic turn. u.s. attorney john durham's investigation has shifted into a criminal inquiry. it allows durham to issue subpoenas, convene a grand jury, file charges. the justice department watchdog is expected to soon release its report on alleged fbi surveillance abuses as well. republican congressman john ratcliffe says that's no coincidence. >> the work done by