limit his testimony. therefore, the house intel committee issued a subpoena to compel his cooperation. a reminder to catch me on bulls and bears on fox business every monday at 5 p.m. eastern. we'll see you there. ♪ >> well, a federal judge dealing a blow to the trump administration, the justice department must provide emergency emergency evidence from the mueller probe to the judiciary committee. >> it's great to be with you all at home and great to be with you, leland, i'm gillian turner. leland: nice to be with you as well. busy week and then we've got that ruling which has significant implications to what's happening today, that ruling also saying that a house vote is not needed to begin a impeachment inquiry, rebuffing, essentially, the white house

claims that the democratic-led inquiry is in the white house words invalid. lucas tomlinson is breaking it down for us. >> hi, it's a major victory by house democrats aby a judge appointed by president obama in 2010. democratic lawmakers are questioning a witness force first final over the weekend. ambassador reeker, the 54-year-old career diplomate arrived on capitol hill a half hour ago. fox told the state department ordered reeker not a pie -- not to appear today. they are expected to grill reeker over the firing of marie yanukovych and asking his ukrainian counterpart to investigate joe biden in exchange for nearly $400 million

in military aid. republican lawmakers demand more transparency to the closed door hearings. some democrats agree. >> every single hearing, they're having down in this secure facility has been announced as unclassified. there's no reason he is having them down in this secure facility, except to control the information that's coming out. but he leaves it unclassified so that he can selectively leak it to the media. >> i do think it will obviously lead and always the intention of mr. schiff to hold public hearings. we would all be far better served sooner rather than later to get to the public hearing phase of this. >> democrats say their need to hear from the witness today because elijah cummings' funeral was yesterday. and we were surprised that you agreed to appear for a deposition on saturday. we encourage you to' peer on a business day for rebust

appearance. and it should end in two to three hours, but could stretch langer. leland: theres' a chance that a few of the members would have something to say. if they do we'll check in. gillian: the president is out at his golf club in sterling, virginia, not too far from washington d.c. and he arrived a bit ago, tweeted, slamming several democrats. rich edson is the at the white house. >> and the justice said that they'll r is turn over the grand jury information and testimony. the administration is expect today appeal that. and jerry nadler said the statement of that, the court's thoughtful reeling recognizes that our impeachment inquiry fully comports with the

constitution and the emergency emergency that the administration has tried to block the house from seeing is critical to our work. and doug collins writes, this ruling is dangerous for every american. the grand jury secrecy rules protect innocent people against public disclosure of information and hearsay that could unfairly harm them. the white house has had no comment on that decision. collins says he's looking forward to an expeditious appeal. the judge also ruled the democrat's impeachment inquiry is valid even though the house has yet to vote on it. democrats are examining whether president trump obstructed the investigation into russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, and the president's conduct on withholding security assistance to ukraine. democrats charged the president used that aid to force a politically motivated investigation into the bidens. there are no public events to the president today although he's automobiles available on

twitter. among several topics the president tweeted, the ukraine investigation is just as corrupt and fake as all the other garbage that went on before this. this is the back and forth continues between house democrats and the white house, with democrats and the house trying to secure information and testimony from the administration, with the administration trying to prevent that. back to you, galien. gillian: well, if anyone's ever not sure what the president's thinking, they know where to go to check out that information. rich, thanks so much. leland. leland: with that we bring in democratic pennsylvania congresswoman ethics affairs and we appreciate it. we'll start micro and then go macro. dan kildee, a friend of the show, a gentleman from michigan, thought he thought democrats would be better served and the countries better served if these hearings were in public. do you agree? >> well, i have to disagree with my colleague because i think that it's very important to understand we're not having a hearing right now.

we're having depositions. we're having an investigation. we are fact finding. and if the administration, if the justice department was doing its job, a special prosecutor would have been appointed and we would be eliciting these facts not by congress, but by a special prosecutor and that's always done behind closed doors. leland: so, following that along, you were a commercial litigator for a long time. given that it is a deposition, as you call it or a fact finding mission, should the accused, meaning the president, have the right to have his counsel there? >> the administration does have counsel there via the republican members of congress. leland: that's not their counsel though. but i will tell you they're speaking on behalf of the president and they're very much robustly defending the president. i have been present for some of these depositions, i'm on foreign affairs and also on education and labor so i'm not always in these depositions, but i will tell-- including the one that's happening right now. but i will tell you that the republicans are vigorous will

i-- >> if you were. >> questions the witnesses. leland: if the president was your client, you'd want to be there, wouldn't you? >> this is not a criminal inquiry. leland: you just compared it to the doj, you can't have it both ways, a political inquiry. >> what i said under ordinary circumstances the department of justice would be having an independent prosecutor do an investigation. that was not-- that would not-- >> hold on if we're not talking criminal charges, prosecutors investigate crimes, what would they be investigating? >> we know, there was a criminal referral to the justice department which they declined to investigate, during an investigation-- >> during. >> but let me answer your request he. leland: you're saying there was a crime. >> i did not say there was a crime, there was a referral. leland: does the doj get not to say it's not a crime we choose not to investigate, to your point there was a referral and they said, we pass? >> well, yeah, but they passed on something that's very, very important.

we know-- >> but a crime or it's important? >> well, depends whether it's proven or not and that's what the testimony in these depositions try to elicit. leland: you said it's not a crime, it's an investigation. >> it's a referral to the department of justice and warrants bringing out the facts so we know what the facts are and know whether to proceed with an impeachment proceeding. we're not there yet. leland: you say they're not there yet, although your colleagues call it an impeachment inquiry. >> it's a semantic-- >> you're trying to makes a distinction between what's happening now and an actually inquiry, right? but you called it an inquiry and members of your party did. >> it's an investigation, inquiry, one and the same thing. leland: should there be a vote

by the full house between what's happening now and what you would call formal hearings that could come out of this? >> i don't think you need a vote. we know, we had a chief judge. federal district court yesterday and she, she did and a 75 page opinion which i haven't fully absorbed yet, and ruled, as somebody who has been there, that republicans are there, many of them are there, they have counsel who question for hours on end. leland: and you think that's enough to represent the president? >> we haven't having a trial at this point. we are having an investigation. leland: okay. all right. ma'am, appreciate you being here. especially on a saturday. >> my pleasure. leland: and jim jordan said they were worried people wouldn't show up. >> i plan now to go to the

deposition. leland: text us afterwards, let us know what's happening. gillian. gillian: in all of this, california congressman, also a member of the house judiciary committee, one of the committees managing the impeachment probe. congressman tom mcclintock. you heard congresswoman wilde and she says the fueling from the judge yesterday basically legitimizes the probe and says everything that the democrats are doing is aboveboard. i'm betting you don't agree with that. >> first of all, that ruling is not the last word on the subject, it's the first word by an obama appointed judge. it's going to be appealed. here is the thing. this would be so simple if the democrats simply followed the well-established precedent that binds us in any impeachment inquiry and that is the whole house votes to initiate the inquiry, delegates that to a committee to begin the investigation and that investigation follows all of the due process rights that are enshrined in our bill of rights. that's all that they have to do.

at that point the subpoenas by the committee become very powerful and the president has said, as long as that's being followed, i'll be happy to turn over what documents you subpoena. but-- >> congressman, is that the case-- >> a different route. gillian: i don't do you think this judge has ruled that everything is on the up and up? >> i think she's flat out wrong. look at u.s. versus nixon during the watergate period. the supreme court ruled that the president's claim of executive privilege over his conversations with advisors is broad as long as-- with one exception and that is where there's a judicial inquiry, where due process rights are being enforced. this judge's decision, i think, flies in the face of the principles enshrined in u.s. v nixon and i think it's going to be overturned by a higher court. gillian: well, the reality right now is that there is not a law dictating how this must proceed.

all we really have here is precedent, right? we have the way impeachment probe unfolded during presidents nixon and clinton. >> gillian, what you need to understand. yes, the house rules are silent on the procedure for impeachment. when the house rules are silent, then the precedent becomes binding, the precedent is what governs and it's the precedent that the democrats are ignoring. kristin: sir, you said this week that democrats want-- i liked this quote, the illusion of impeachment without the reality. is that what you're talking about, this matter of the full house vote on this? >> i think the reason they have not had a formal vote on it is because you have a lot of democrats elected in districts that donald trump carried who promised to go to washington, not to be part of the resistance, but to reach across the aisle to work with the administration, to get things done, and a vote on the house floor would expose them for the

hypocrites they are. gillian: i want to get your thoughts quickly on the turkey-syria border crisis. you said something else this week that pricked my ears. you said the president's decision to pull out u.s. troops was the least bad, a very bad alternative. and sir, a lot of form policy analysts both sides of the aisle agree with you. the question i have is why do you think that president trump isn't taking that message, your message, to the american people on this issue? >> well, as william f buckley once side of george w. bush, poor george, words just aren't his thing. i think the president can make a very strong case. this is what he promised the american people, to get us out of these endless wars. congress has never voted to put american troops in harm's way in syria to protect the kurds from the syrians. the kurds and the syrians have been at war for over a century and i don't see any american

interest, and obviously, neither does the president, to justify putting our troops in the cross-fire between these two groups. again, a lot of bad things are going to happen regardless of what the president does. i think this was the least bad of the alternatives that he had. gillian: the least bad of bad alternatives. very bad alternatives. you're right, no other way to say it. i think a lot of folks on the administration's communications team have been trying to take that message on behalf of the president to the people. a lot of folks want to hear it come from the president himself. congressman, thanks for your time today and we'll get you back soon. >> my pleasure, thanks for having me. leland: there's a saying in arabic for that, i have two choices, both of which are bitter. gillian: oh, very good. and for more on all of this, chris wallace has an exclusive sit-down with kellyanne conway and they'll talk about this and a host of other things, and checklistings for time and

channel. leland: she has been in the news lately. gillian: she has. leland: chris wallace will have good questions there. coming up now to california where firefighters till cannot -- still cannot get fires under control. christina coleman, where there are a lot of homes destroyed by los angeles and tens of thousands. >> right. we have some good news. a fire captain says the situation has improved. the winds have died down and the fire is 25% contained. if you walk with me, you can see the firefighters, still hard at work. and they have their hoses on and they're checking on the 18 structures damaged or destroyed in this fire to make sure there's knoll smoldering debris. they don't want another fire to flare up. go ahead and take a look at the damage here. again, 18 structures, either damaged or destroyed and this is

one of them. you can literally see right through this house, the second floor here, just destroyed. now, here are the new numbers for today. as of now, this fire has burned at least 4600 acres, the mandatory evacuation has been lifted for 20,000 who live in the area and they're work to go get more people back home today. at least 1300 firefighters are out checking hot spots and the smoldering embers to stop the fire from spreading and with winds picking up in california tomorrow, the state officials are on high alert. >> some of the finest folks that exist in the business doing heroic work and they are preparing for saturday night. they're preparing for sunday, and they are working with meteorologists, they're working with data that's state of the art. they're working with new radar technology, new satellite technology, and working with our

federal partners. >> there was significantly more damage in the kincade fire in northern california sonoma county. 49 structures damaged and 4500 acres burned and only 10% contained. it's in remote terrain making it hard to put out. utility company pg&e admit add power line malfunctioned just before the kincade fire started, but this is still under investigation and as of now at least 2300 people are under a mandatory evacuation. >> and i wanted to go back in and get my jewelry box because it's my dad's wedding ring, and then they wouldn't let me go back in and then now they tell me the house is gone. >> pg&e shut off power to thousands of residents earlier this week to prevent fires. 99% of that power has been

restored, but now the utility company is considering shutting off power to 850,000 customers because of potentially strong winds this weekend and some of those customers can lose power as early as 3:00 this afternoon, but again, that's a very evolving situation. the utility company is going to continue to monitor these winds. they still present a dangerous fire situation, and as you can see here in southern california, the firefighters continue to work very hard. they're actually going to be having a press conference at 5:00 this afternoon so we'll learn more about this developing situation, leland. >> yeah, five p.m. pacific, 8 p.m. eastern. christina, thanks so much. gillian. gillian: the national weather service confirming reports of a tornado in alabama, it's been ripping through mobile county. downing trees and ripping roofs off buildings. according to local reports there, the twister touched down around 4:14 p.m. yesterday. thankfully no immediate reports

yet of injuries. leland: all right, new word from the defense secretary saying that the united states will send reinforcements to help protect syrian oil fields. that's a little different than troops are coming home. benjamin hall on the ground in northern syria with what this means. hi, benjamin. >> yeah, hi, leland. we're hearing about two violations, turkish backed properties not far from where we are now. there's a lot going on on the ground. we'll bring it to you after the break. ted! goin' on a trip, huh?

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>> convicted agent maria butina arriving in moscow after being released from a florida prison. butina served most of her 18-month sentence before being deported back overseas to russia. she pleaded guilty to conspiring to act as an unregistered agent for russia last december admitting to using her contacts inside the n.r.a. to gather information which she then sent back to the kremlin. >> defense secretary mark esper now says the pentagon will send u.s. troops to reinforce those

already there in northern syria. the goal to protect oil fields, benjamin hall, also in northern syria. there are new questions whether or not the turks are living by the cease-fire. hi, benjamin. >> yeah, hi, leland. well there's been a shaky cease-fire and a few violation, but hearing in the last few hours, quite a major one. turkish back forces, and pushing in 50 miles from here using artillery drone strikes, and heavy cannon fire and now taking over that town. we hear a number of military have been killed and a number of "zillions" number of civilians being killed and we've seen them entering from iraq where the forces that left had gone out to and again, mark esper saying he would send troops in to protect the oil fields. frankly, that's not going to do

anything to stop the attacks along the border. we spoke with people who fled. they told us that they're radicalized fighters, along with turkish fighters, going door-to-door, burning theirs houses to the ground and heard about suspected chemical weapons use. these soldiers we met at a hospital described to us the horrible burning sensation they felt after shells landed near them. how they tried to rub sand all over their bodies to stop it. and tests are now underway in norway and finland to find out what was used and tissue samples have been sent. >> about 30 fighters have come back from the front lines over the last few weeks, bearing these mysterious burns all over their bodies. the worst cases have been moved on to iraq and and the doctors believe it's white phosphorus, if that's the case, it's a

violation of the chemical weapons treaty. >> numerous accusations of war crimes going on, turkey denies all of them. there's a lot happening on the ground and the feeling it's going to get worse in the coming days. leland. leland: so we understand where you and your team are the situation on the ground. give us a sense, is there power there? food there? are the civilians where you are feeling safe or also thinking about leaving? >> most of the civilians have gone around here. there are 100,000 on the move. 400,000 have been displaced along this border region. no, they left about two weeks ago when this offensive started. the last few coming out are the ones that said they had nowhere else to go. there's still power, still electricity, sporadic power cuts, we're on generators, no, the situation is deteriorating and frankly turning into a humanitarian crisis. we have 2000 syrian troops moving north a few hours. south of us we have turks, we have russians, we have iranians,

the u.s. to the east. it's a very messy moment right now, and no one knows how the next few days will play out. leland: messy complicated and dangerous, our thanks to you and your team on the ground frankly at the tip of the spear for the kurds. gillian. gillian: the trump administration announced the u.s. is suspending flights to all destinations in cuba except for havana. a pretty clear reversal. obama administration's efforts to open up travel between the two countries. secretary of state mike pompeo says, quote, this action will prevent the castro regime from profiting from the air travel and using the revenues to repress the cuban people. the notice will go into effect on december 10th. so if you're looking to travel anywhere aside from havana, better go soon. leland: it brings up questions about americans who planned to go back and visit families for christmas. the bigger question and you touched on a little bit in this,

how much of a reversal of the obama outstretched hand to the cuban communist regime is this? and how much of a reversal could the next president, either in four years or a year, put into place? >> well, this is the prerogative of the president. so we could see some pretty wide swings coming depending who is elected. leland: and what happens in cuba. gillian: lots of pundits speculating again about hillary clinton in 2020 prompting comedian bill maher to say the former democratic nominee needs to, quote, go away. more on that.

>> well, the hottest ticket in washington this weekend, aside from anmq is the world series. our own correspondent mark meredith drew the lucky straw.

he's there all weekend long at nationals park. leland: how did the rookie get the job? >> i don't know. mark, are you sick of baseball or going strong? >> not really, i think everybody at work wanted to go to the game, and that's how i got the assignment. we were here last night as some 43,000 folks came through gates like the one behind me to see game three of the world series last night. for the nationals, it was not the best game after the nats did well for the first two games. series back in houston. the game later on this evening, fans are coming out. if you're coming out last minute to get the ticket or those going to the main box office. it's not cheap. we looked online and tickets going for roughly $900 to start. so, leland that would be the money if you're coming out later tonight. that's what you need to have ready. for the fans coming out in addition to ticket prices, a lot of memorabilia and excited to see what the nats have to offer

and fans we spoke with said no matter the price, it's well worth the cost of admission. >> it's nuts, a lot of people never have seen something like this. >> no way i'm not going to miss the opportunity. first time world series here, got to go, got to go. >> and it's a funny thing, one time the ball bounces in a team's favor and the other time. got to keep swinging the bats. >> it's a long time since washington have seen a world series played in its back yard, the last time over 80 years ago, 1933. if they're coming to the game the first pitch thrown out by a young man part of the nationals youth academy. some president trump will be coming out here for the game, but told he will not be out here for the first pitch, instead to watch the game. the weather a big factor now. it's cool and we've seen light

rain. we'll see if there's impact on the game. it's not likely to dampen anyone's spirits. it's been an exciting couple of days. gillian: i got home from work last night. 11:30, walked in the front door. my husband has the game on and as i walk into the living room, who is on the big screen, but chris wallace and the announcer goes and there is fox news's own chris wallace. i think he was looking at his phone or something because he didn't look up. it was great, a great moment. >> absolutely. it was cool. they definitely showed him during the fan cam and went through many things. my favorite part from last night. chris is great, but seeing the entire studio doing the baby shark, the dance with the clap. gillian, that was something else, i'm not going to forget at that soon. leland will do that for the next commercial. leland: it was cringe worthy. gillian: we've got to get him back in the bureau.

leland: game four of the world series between the nationals and astros on fox, first pitch 8:07 p.m. and a man who just can't wait to see more of the baby shark, conservative talk radio host, houston astros devotee, jimmy barrett. they're zooming out on you. there you go, there you go. >> get the full view. and let's get the full view of the astros jersey. leland: and that's just wonderful, jimmy. you guys are down 2-1, sorry. >> hey, you know what? 1996. new york yankees were down 2-0. lost both home games and went on the road and won four straight and won the world series. leland: so you're having to go back to 1996 in order to try to find any hope? that's like two decades. >> this team has broke and lot of records this year. this is another one they're going to go for. leland: normally you're a realist most the time which is why we have you on rather than dreamer, but, hey, we'll move on. you know who was president in 1996 was blin and we're hearing

once again about hillary clinton talking about possibly running for president in terms of just how long the clintons have been on the national political scene and that did not sit well with one bill maher. take a listen to what he had to say about it. >> it seems like every few months hillary clinton bubbles up, the clintons. they've got to go away. the thing is a year out or less, they can't be at the convention. maybe waving or something. [laughter] >> but i'm serious. leland: it's interesting in terms of sort of as we look at this, you think about, say, the 2008 conventions and how the bushes were treated there by the mccain team. and what that looked like. are the clintons do you think that toxic? >> i don't know if they're that toxic or not? she's kind of like the vampire of politics though. i mean, what do you do to kill her off? she keeps coming back over and over and over again. she is on this book tour now

with her daughter chelsea and she's lapping up the love and she's missing the crowds and she's thinking, now what? i could ride to the rescue here. we've got problems in the democrat party. we can't make a choice. we've got a bunch of socialists and a bunch of old guys, and i could make this happen. leland: the flip side of this is that if she-- the clintons are shrewd political operatives certainly not stupid. is there a point in that that if there's an opportunity that says a lot about the democrats? >> yeah, i think so. i think -- i think if they go to hillary, then what they're saying is is that this is the only chance we have to win, or other female candidate, elizabeth warren is too far to the left. most of our candidates are too far to the left. joe biden has his own set of problems so i think it's an act of desperation if they call on hillary at this particular point. leland: in fairness, she did win the popular vote, you flip

100,000 votes in pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin and you've got president clinton. >> well, yeah, you're assuming she does that well again. is she any more likeable as the last time out? honestly i think her biggest problem-- >> is she any more likeable? is president trump any more unlikable? candidate trump, you think he's more likeable. >> he didn't get elected for being likeable. he says saying things people want to hear, things he was going to do and ever since he's got elected, he's been doing it. and granted you don't hear people say it, they're going to say it underground and to yourselves, and you have moderate people voting for him because he's getting screwed over in washington d.c. leland: and a poll, impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. and a majority of americans favoring the impeachment. if you look at the swing states michigan, pennsylvania,

wisconsin, it's exactly what you say. the flip independents, they don't want to see impeachment and conviction, they may not vote for them come november, but they're not yet at the point ready to remove him. >> the other thing, leland, we're still way out on the election and the thing about polls it's all about how you ask the question. how do you phrase the question. you can make a poll turn out just about any way you want. leland: you make a good point on how the questions are phrased. jimmy, good luck. keep dreaming back to 1996 for us, all right. >> i'll do my best. leland: there's always room for hope. it will exist. >> enjoy your moment in the sun. leland: all right. good to see you, sir. >> you, too. leland: gillian. gillian: mark zuckerberg back in the hot seat this time over the facebook and the u.s. election. zuckerberg insisting that 2020 is going to go a whole lot more

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♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ >> facebook ceo mark zuckerberg is getting slammed by congress for not doing enough to prevent foreign interference in the election. and facebook is learning hard lessons. >> on 2016 we were on your back foot in terms of prevent russia for attempting to interfere in our election. we've spent at lo of -- lot of the last few years, frankly governments, too, from foreign interference. this monday we proactively identified a network of fake russian accounts and a few networks of iranian fake

accounts we proactively took down. >> during that testimony, zuckerberg got hammered on political ads. that allows people to post fake news and information in ads everybody knows is false. elizabeth warren took them to task last week. leland: it's remarkable that mark zuckerberg has managed to do what no one else has in washington, which is to unite elizabeth warren and mark howley. listen to maxine waters and zuckerberg go at it in the hearing. let me interrupt you for a minute. are you telling me-- i think as you said to me before, you plan on doing no fact checking on political ads. >> chairwoman, our policy is that, we do know the fact check politician's speech and the reason for that is that we believe that in a democracy, it is important that people can see for themselves what politicians

are saying. gillian: so to me, one of the most interesting things about this testimony was tech sources here in washington have been saying for weeks that this was going to launch his big apology tour for facebook. but that wasn't at all what happened on this hearing. i listened to the entire thing, it went on for five or six hours. what mark zuckerberg is doing here, we're working to do better going to do better in the future without accounting for any of the mistakes for the past. leland: you've been covering this so much and look at it from two perspectives, both from your time at the national security council and now as a reporter looking at tech companies. they say they want to do better, but is it possible or like saying i want to do better at jumping high and being able to fly off a building when i flap my arms? >> that's the thing. you can try to do better, you can enact better policies, but it's like fighting the waves in the ocean. there's just new and more and constant problems here, it's not

an easy thing. leland: it makes you wonder. they say they took down one group of fake russians accounts and three fake iranians accounts. there's got to be a lot out there. gillian: there's already 10 new ones. leland: and you'll have a lot to cover coming up to the election. speaking of the election, this is an issue as well. president trump's personal attorney rude guiliani may have gotten himself in hat water. it started with a butt aisle to reporter jacqui heinrich has been breaking down the transcript of said butt dial. >> hey, leland. guiliani had speoken to an nbc reporter and inadvertently called him back leaving a three-minute voice mail while he was asleep. it sounds like he's talking to a man in the same room and unclear what the context of the

conversation is and beginning to say a man named charles would have had a hard time with a fraud case because he didn't do his due diligence. later guiliani tells the other man he needs to quote, get him on bahrain and says he needs a few hundred thousand dollars. he inquires about a man named robert who is in turkey, but the reporter he called said it's not the first time he's gotten a butt dial from the president's lawyer. a few weeks ago he got another voice mail from guiliani where guiliani spends three minutes disparaging the bidens, claiming the former vice-president tried to stop the ukrainian gas company because his son hunter is on the board. and there's no proof that joe biden was acting out for his son. a part of that. >> the secretary of state and vice-president--

investigating him and blocked it twice, have to investigate this and affect the 2020 election. >> the calls might have gotten the president's attention and tweeted last night to tim, as in tim cook, the button on the iphone was far better than the swipe. mr. guiliani has not returned our requests for comments. >> it's interesting, rudy guiliani is slightly less available these days than he was. both on and off the record. jacqui heinrich in new york. jackie following this, thank you. gillian. >> president trump is hitting back at the democrats' impeachment inquiry harder than ever. stick around. we've got a lot more on this coming up next. proof of less joint pain and clearer skin. man 2 vo: proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis... woman 2 vo: ...with humira.

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>> president trump ratcheting up hits counter attacks against the impeachment inquiry. media buzz howie kirtz has more on how the press is covering all of this. >> there's one clear sign the impeachment coverage is intensifying, the much rougher language. as acting ambassador to the ukraine william taylor and other diplomates testified behind congressional closed doors the president denounced them as

human scum and no regrets. >> the people who have been against him and working against him since the day they took office are just that. >> as the media portrayed taylor's testimony as demanding a quid pro quo, the president tweeted a racially charged term, all americans must look at what they are looking at here, a lynching. >> it's a horror and whether it's to democrats or republicans to say lynching-- they're saying that trump is hitler, and all rolled in one. >> and joe biden used the same word during clintons impeachm t impeachment. >> it's part of a lynching-- >> and the security advisor is reported to to have channinged the ukraine dealing.

house republicans increasingly frustrated by the secret impeachment process and selective leaks to the press, seized the media barging into a room. >> and some called it a stunt. of the justice department is now pursuing a criminal investigation into the origins of the russia probe. >> some unnamed officials are out to damage the president such as anonymous and parlayed trashing trump into a book somehow he'll do one interview. and others are caught up if in the probe because they worked on ukraine and public opinion could turn on how the media judged their motivations. gillian. gillian: we'll be right back. or it isn't. it's either testing an array of advanced safety systems. or it isn't. it's either the peace of mind of a standard unlimited mileage warranty. or it isn't.

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leland: a grand jury investigation and don't need to have a vote to continue the inquiry. we bring in richardson who is at the white house wondering about the president's twitter account which proved time-consuming. >> reporter: especially as democrats move forward on impeachment inquiries. the president is defending his conduct saying, quote, the ukraine investigation is as corrupt and fake as all the other garbage that went on before it. this is centered on the ukraine investigation, donald trump according to the democrats investigating this the ukrainian government was pushed into investigating the bidens with security assistance to do so. house democrats are examining

whether donald trump obstructed the investigation into russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. part of that inquiry and siding with congressional democrats, the federal judge has determined the justice department must share with the house judiciary committee grand jury evidence from the mueller investigation. democrat chairman of the house judiciary committee jerry nadler writes the court's thoughtful ruling recognizes our impeachment inquiry comports with the constitution and rejects the spurious white house claims to the contrary. this grand jury information the administration tried to block is critical to our work. his republican counterpart rights, quote, when we consider removing a democratically listed president our yardstick is historical experience and the decision ignores that. while failing to answer the crucial question of when the suppose it impeachment inquiry

actually began. the white house has no comment on the judge's decision. collins is looking forward for the white house to move forward and appeal that decision. leland: we will check back with you later. jillian: defense secretary mark esper says the us will send reinforcements to a syrian oilfield after troops began applying from other parts of the country. benjamin hall got the details. what are you seeing tonight? >> the cease-fire is falling apart. there are heavy clashes of turkish militias pushed out and hit the kurdish forces head on. we are hearing about a number of people killed. we've also heard about possible war crimes and suspected use of chemical weapons.

we were at a hospital. have a look. 30 fighters have come back over the last few weeks bearing mysterious burns all over their bodies. the worst cases, one has been taken to france. the doctors believe it is white phosphorus and therefore a violation of the chemical weapons treaty. >> reporter: soldiers describe the horrible burning sensation and how they rolled in the sand to try to stop it, couldn't prevent from tearing away at their clothes. there are tests in norway and finland, tissue samples, not far away from there we spoke to the families who fled from the fighting. they told us how radical islamic fighters announced joining with the turkish army, they have been allied with al

qaeda in the past looking for kurds, killing some, torturing some, burning down some houses to the ground. evolution. well over 100,000 people have been displaced by fighting on the turkish border. they are fleeing where they can to find safety. some have come to this school and telling us or stories about the crimes committed by turkish militias. 45 of them are sleeping in this room alone. you see they stacked up their bedding here but they are just on the floor, their lives are on hold. certainly a lot of accusations of war crimes. us forces coming in, bashar al-assad pushing north for the next few days and syria. jillian: thank you for that thorough reporting, we appreciate it.

we turn to former member of the foreign service, retired ambassador to yemen and senior vice president of the middle east institute gerald fireside. you heard what benjamin reported, turkish militia going house to house in kurdish villages, raiding homes, killing families. does this sound like the behavior of a trusted nato ally? >> know. this is a catastrophe. what we heard is 300,000 kurds have been pushed out of this so-called safe zone that the turks are operating in, 120 km long and 30 km deep and this is the area that the turks have an agreement with russia that they are going to clear the syrian defense forces and kurdish forces and push the kurdish civilian population on.

>> we are only a few days into the turkish incursion into the border region. it sounds like there are reports of a humanitarian crisis, we saw footage of patients being treated for what patients believer white phosphorus related injuries. that is some pretty heady stuff. this takes us from questionable military incursion to war crimes. >> absolutely. this is the concern and this was the concern at the time that donald trump and president erdogan agreed on the strategies that the us would withdraw from that area and allow the turks to come in and operate. the turkish intention is clear, they want to get the kurdish population out so they can send refugees across the border from turkey where they are defense

of political problem for erdogan and in order to do that they are clearly using brutal and perhaps criminal methods. jillian: donald trump says the cease-fire is holding as we are getting the outcome we expected and things are going well. how does one square that with the footage we are seeing? >> the operation probably will be successful, syrian defense forces will have to evacuate from that region and the kurdish population will need to leave that region. if you are president erdogan you will say this is going fine but the cost, the human cost of what is happening is catastrophic. jillian: one of the arguments donald trump has made of withdrawing us forces, the kurds and the turks fighting in the border region for decades, they will fight if the us withdraws, continue fight if the us stays.

how can we risk anymore american blood in that part of the world? the outcome will be the same. >> we are there not because of the kurds in the turks but because the kurds were cooperating with us in order to defeat the islamic state, to prevent the islamic state from using the region to mount attacks not only in the region but against the united states and our allies. that is why we were there. the kurds were our partners and accomplish in that and once they shed blood in that operation it wasn't the americans. you have seen 11,000 kurdish fighters died cooperating with the united states. jillian: is it fair to blame donald trump as a lot of democrats are doing for the death of kurdish civilians,

some of the gruesome scenes we have seen on the ground? we didn't pull out with benefits of happened? >> it is fair to say as long as the united states put down clear position to the turks, the turks would not have gone in. the fact is we engaged with the turks and the kurds over along period of time. our special envoy was working out methodology for securing what would have been a peaceful operation and by pooling us forces out we signal to the turks they come in and take on this military action. jillian: ambassador jeffries said in a close to a deposition that the president did not consult with him at all about moving troops prior to announcing the decision, thanks for joining us and we appreciate it.

leland: the syria issue is one on the campaign trail. yesterday the president and several 2020 democratic presidential hopefuls are taking the stage at a historically black college in south carolina. kristin fisher outside their in colombia, south carolina. >> reporter: the big story has been this back and forth with kamala harris. she was all set to attend the form and backed out after donald trump attended a justice board and only a handful of students at this historically black college were allowed to hear him speak. senator harris is back in after getting the group that gave donald trump that award removed as a sponsor. an hour ago her campaign put out a statement that reads,

quote, as a result of her leadership the 2020 bipartisan justice ctr. has been dropped from the event. it was made free and open to the public, more students at benedict college have been included in the event. her campaign has taken issue with something donald trump said yesterday, he equated what he views as the unfairness of the impeachment inquiry with the unfairness african-americans have faced in the criminal justice system. >> we will never let up on efforts to ensure that our justice system is fair for every single american. i have my own experience. you see what is going on with the witchhunt. >> reporter: despite the criticism from democrats, this forum is called the second presidential justice form, playing off of one of his signature legislative accomplishments, the first step act of criminal justice reform which he signed into law last

april. today democratic candidates like we book ran john delaney gave the president some credit for it but john delaney also said campaign secrets, what wrapped up an hour ago. listen to this. >> the strategy of my campaign is surprise in iowa. that doesn't mean you have to win it by the way. surprise means doing better than you think i'm going to do. >> reporter: john delaney managing expectations ahead of the caucus is a big milestone today, the iowa caucus exactly 100 days away. >> we had the lady on the show a couple times, if he is still in the race come the iowa caucus that might surprise folks. >> that is true. i appreciated his honesty, surprised everybody not with how well he is doing but how

well he may do. leland: kristin fisher will be there all weekend reporting. one of the candidates, elizabeth warren will be there tomorrow and at her own event, this is a newly released quinnipiac poll showing the massachusetts senator holding the lead over joe biden and the rest of the primary field. warren is on top 20% among democratic voters. biden is in second place at 21%. with that we bring in a correspondent from the economist, long time reader of the economist, for some i got to interview someone from it. this is the cover story you were part of today as we pop up the cover. inside elizabeth warren's plans

to reshape american capitalism. you guys wrote this. do you think of the rest of america understands what elizabeth warren's plans will do? >> i don't think so. she has released a breathtaking number of proposals that would totally remake the economy from healthcare to fossil fuels to private equity. most people might know of the wealth tax or universal childcare but they don't know about the totality and that inspired the piece, to get a clip on what her presidency would mean. >> you have a way of putting things in historical perspective. other than the new deal, franklin roosevelt, has there ever been a time a political candidate talked about remaking america in this way? >> know. roosevelt, the biggest person you could make him you could look to johnson's great society or reagan's effort at deregulation but it is sweeping in scope in similarity to those ideas and would change the

economy looked if she got everything past which is a big maybe. >> she would have a lot of help. george soros did not make up secret of his political leanings but what about where he spends his money? he does often not endorse somebody. in this case he had. elizabeth warren emerged as the person to beat. i don't take a public stance but i do believe she is the most qualified person to be president. where does that leave us in terms of the typical wall street elite going after elizabeth warren or elsewhere? >> there has been a lot of reporting suggest folks on wall street are unhappy with elizabeth lauren and that make sense. >> he wears as a badge of honor. >> he tweeted congratulatory

early after an article saying they would not vote for her or raise money. she was happy about that. it is not just george soros from wall street. she has had a sustained increase in the polls because american voters are responding to her plans and they think she has a well researched agenda to take on income inequality, driving her popularity as well as joe biden. leland: they like that she has plans, one plan she does not seem to have thought out told the rest of the world is how she's going to pay for medicare for all, she just wants to do it but won't say that will raise taxes. >> her plans in total would cost $8 trillion over ten years. she shows her math. this would raise $8 trillion. medicare for all is a $32 trillion plan over ten years for which he has not put out a plan and that has caused her opponents to hurt her efforts. leland: the criticism of elizabeth warren is she has

plans to raise this money with her wealth tax but each plan seems to spend the same to sense over and over again. >> he allocated universal childcare and student debt cancellation and things like social security she has come up with other means. some are less publicized like social security payroll tax and corporate profit tax and the social security one brings us $4 trillion as opposed wealth tax. it is less exciting to talk about that. leland: the cover story is on news stands and there's the editorial the democratic front runner has too little markets or business. read it online. thank you for being here. jillian: the trump organization considering possible sale of one of its premier hotels. they are looking at offers, the

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gmd warning californians they may have their power cut as wildfires rage in different parts of the state. christina coleman has the latest. >> reporter: in southern california the winds of died down giving firefighters a chance to get in and get the fire under control. the tick fire is 25% contained but there is significant damage, 18 structures have been damaged or destroyed like this house here. you can see the second floor of the building completely gone.

as of now firefighters have stopped the tick fire from spreading. 1300 firefighters are checking hotspots and smoldering embers. 40,000 residents were under mandatory evacuation. it has been lifted for heaven. 4600 acres of burned in this fire. governor newsom has declared a state of emergency so resources and age can be provided as necessary. fire captain tony tells the crews are concerned about the wind picking up tomorrow. >> sunday evening we expect a significant santa ana cycle so it is an incident for us to continue to shore up and reinforce our containment line so if the wind kicks off it will not cause smoldering debris to be kicked out of the burn area and go into unburned vegetation.

>> some new information. sonoma county officials urging people who could be impacted to evacuate the area by 4:00 this afternoon before another blackout goes into effect. the kincaid fire has 202500 acres. that fire is only 10% contained. there are no reports of injuries. 2300 people are under mandatory evacuation. >> i want to go back in and get my dad's wedding ring and they won't let me go back in. jillian: pg and he admits a transmission power line malfunctions right before the fire started because of the fire is still under

investigation and pgn the is considering shutting off power to 850,000 customers because of potentially strong windss and some customers to lose their power as of 3:00 this afternoon. i'm waiting for a callback from pg&e. firefighters and state officials, a lot of people monitoring the winds and dangerous fire condition out here, something we will continue to check on and hope no other buildings are burned or damaged like this one. jillian: if you feel back at it here back let us know. leland: a little farther north, wine country, shasta county fire inspector scott ross. over the past couple years, sonoma county and napa county got brutalized by these fires.

does this have the same potential? >> reporter: potential is always there. last year the car fire in reading and the camp fire in paradise, decimated that whole town. this doesn't have that kind of population but anytime you have these winds predicted heads are on a swivel. leland: we keep hearing about planned power outages and rolling blackouts that are supposed to prevent wildfires, the electric company has gotten really lampooned because of how badly they messed it up and we are hearing about more power outages once fires have started. is this seeming to make sense and we are not understanding it or is it organized at the scene? >> don't get me started. the plan, we don't have confirmation they will shut things off.

i wouldn't be surprised if they did. the predicted winds, more than likely they will be turning things off to prevent further ignitions. we have our hands keeping this fire in check. last thing they want is new start and we have multiple things to deal with. leland: and important thing about new start was where are we in fire season? sometimes it is difficult to keep track of the calendar. >> july, august are the hot months, the fire danger months but primarily october and november is when the big ones happen. that is when you get the wind event. by the end of summer things are real dry, they haven't recovered from rain and then

winds pick up. you wouldn't think we would get big fires but we do. jillian: are using any trends and how these begin and spread and how easy it is to contain that and bring them to a end or is it too unpredictable? >> not a trend in how they start. the car fire was started by a trailer and they had a wheel blowout and parts got blown. anything can start it. the problem is want to get started with low humidity, they get up and run and getting enough resources at those beginning stages is difficult. leland: godspeed to you and your fellow firefighters out there.

>> just a correction. i heard 2500 acres, 20005000. leland: we are up against a hard break. back in washington, the federal judge's ruling against the trump administration.

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>> welcome back, everybody digesting a federal judge's ruling that appears to be a legal victory for congressional democrats. the ruling says the house impeachment inquiry is legal, donald trump's claims that the probe is invalid. lucas tomlinson joining us with more, lay it out for us. >> major victory by house democrats by a federal judge appointed by president obama who ruled the impeachment inquiry may proceed over

allegations the with held military aid from ukraine and the house judiciary committee can give secret evidence from special counsel robert mueller. at this hour democrats are questioning a witness for the first time over the weekend. ambassador philip rieger is the current acting assistant secretary of state for european affairs. the career diplomat arrived on capitol hill 3 hours ago. fox told the state department ordered him not to appear. the house intelligence committee then issued a subpoena forcing him to testify. republican lawmakers demand more transparencies to these closed-door hearings, some democrats agree. >> i fought over the world from afghanistan to africa and those countries have more do process than what is going on here where at least the accused can have counsel present. this is a sham. >> it will obviously lead to hold public hearings. we would all be better served to get to the public hearing phase of this. >> house democrats are expected

to grill him about donald trump's abrupt firing of former ambassador marie yavanovitch it at his ukrainian counterpart investigate joe biden's $400 million in military aid. democrats say they need to hear from the witnesses today because of elijah cummings funeral in baltimore yesterday. republican congressman jim jordan urged the ambassador not to show up. >> we hope you are from lawmakers following the closed-door testimony. leland: important to note they are in this secure facility at the capital. they can come out and talk on and off about what they might have heard. does it move the needle etc. whether or not the testimony is truly open? >> these hearings are unclassified so where are the transcripts, demanding more transparency. leland: there are so many

republicans were not allowed in. great reporting, jillian has more on what this means. jillian: we have fox news contributor and democratic strategists dug showing and the chairman of gopac, gentlemen, thanks for being with us on a saturday. we love seeing you. the judge's ruling is a victory for democrats but is it, as they are saying, legitimizing everything we are doing giving them carte blanche to proceed with impeachment however they want? >> i don't think it legitimizes the process. it says it should have access to the grand jury information robert mueller had a, a precedent established in the nixon impeachment. it is the right decision but i share the views of democratic

and republican congressman you just interviewed indicating i would like more transparency. for the american people to make a judgment about what is going on we can't do these hearings only in secret without transcripts, without disclosure. i think that is wrong. there is plenty of evidence to suggest this is a reasonable process. the trump administration is wrong discouraging people from testifying but ultimately transparency in this process as we had in the nixon administration is only a good thing. jillian: republicans want more transparency in this process but there is a trend where republicans are hitting the democrats impeachment process, the process itself, they are contesting every move to the point that jim jordan spent is a railing that today adam

schiff has gotten ambassador phil rico testifying on a saturday. are these the fights you want to spend your energy fighting? >> given how the hearings are being run, every action the democrats take is not about finding the truth. it is about getting the outcome they ultimately want. you see republicans pushing back and looking for more transparency but the bigger issue is for the democrats. as we get ready for 2020, all voters here, look at survey after survey particularly among independent voters. what we hear from democrats? they hear this impeachment. what they don't hear his ideas that will make their lives better. americans may want to learn more about this impeachment they really want for congress

focused on what they are caring about and they are not getting it from this congress. jillian: a fair argument. >> democrats won the midterm in 2018 not on impeachment but on climate change, they won on healthcare, they won it on economic inequality and those select democrats in 2020. i differ with david because the impeachment inquiry is a fair one but we don't differ on the fact that i think impeachment is a political loser for the democrats with anyone save their hard-core base. jillian: what about the investigation into the origins of the russia probe the doj headed up by william barr and one of his deputies, durham, is conducting right now. i want to hear from both of you.

>> they wanted the mueller investigation, there might be questions how it was conducted or did the justice department work with the democratic national committee to bring it about. that is -- we don't need that. and what can we do to keep the president focus on investigations, >> i democrats quaking in their boots over the fact there's a criminal probe? >> they are not but they should be. >> we will leave it there, we are back soon. thanks so much. >> the vice president going after the nba.

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leland: adam silver says his legal keep doing business with china despite a very pointed accusation by the vice president of the united states. >> side with the chinese communist party and silencing free-speech the nda is acting like a wholly-owned subsidiary of an authoritarian regime. leland: that was until prompted too. my response, we need to adhere to our core value from the first moment. i will say once again we are going to double down on engaging the people china and india throughout africa regardless of their governments. you could say that a little bit of a daca. >> from the nba's perspective they are bringing the game,

that is what they are doing. leland: you want to bring the game to fans and to do that do you have to adhere to the rules those fans live under? jillian: if you want to get paid. leland: or your visas allowed. charles barkley had the same thoughts as you did. take a listen. >> vice president pence needs to shut the hell up. i don't understand why these holier than thou politicians if they want to worry about china why don't they stop all transactions with china? leland: remember when the airlines changed how they listed taiwan, you didn't hear these statements from the vice president. when marriott had to fire an employee because of something they tweeted you didn't hear this from the vice president. why the nba? jillian: this problem is literally the problem of the future. you have the fastest growing

economy in the world today. the future isn't big here. this is the question we have to answer over and over in every sector of us industry. >> the chinese do not seem willing to stop trying to influence us businesses, how they do business in china but in the united states they talk about china. this is something that has been on the campaign trail is a big issue, china overall but a little how the nba as well. life pictures from south carolina, joe biden is holding a townhall at wilson high school, one of several candidates in the palmetto state today. kristin fisher is down there on the ground. she will be monitoring the vice president. jillian: the nation's capital

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leland: long animation, fox news alert, bipartisanship has come to washington. democrats and republicans in this town have united around a single cause. at least for a couple days, reading for the nationals in game 4 of the world series, mark meredith live in nationals park to witness history in the making. >> reporter: i would agree 100%, you get a sense in the city that people are united for the washington nationals, people who live in dc, the astros are feeling excited after claiming victory in game 3. they lost the first two games of the series in houston. if you are a baseball fan coming to the city tickets will not be cheap. we will see prices starting for standing room only seats, seats that are not even seats themselves, just a chance to get into the stadium starting at $900 and prices are going up from there.

we had a chance to talk to someone you don't hear from often when it comes to major league baseball games, the authenticators, people that are ready to see what is happening with the game whether it is a baseball baseball battle get the merchandise and make sure it is the real deal before it ends at auction sites or retell partners of major league baseball. >> the authenticators are on hand to authenticate when they come off the field so it could be the basis, dirt, lineup cards, the jerseys they are wearing, there is an to end to it as long as the authenticators are there to witness items being used. >> those authenticators have years of law enforcement training and they want to make sure what does for thousands of dollars is not something anyone can claim was real and once proven by authenticators they put a unique program, where baseball was before it was sold out to the general public.

it is amazing to see the behind-the-scenes moments that happened with the world series. you can see the game is not open yet. fans are coming out in a couple hours. 5:00 is when the gates are set to open. 43,000 people expected to come out here. i'm sure you will be cheering on the net tonight. leland: thanks, mark meredith. keep up the hard work. jillian: don't pay any mind to him. for everyone at home you can catch game 4 of the world series between the net and the astros tonight on fox. the first pitch at 8:07:00 pm. leland: we have video of one person training in the world series. this is a cat named cinder but lovingly called cinderblock for obvious reasons. cinder was surrendered by her

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arthel: high drama in the nation's capital, the latest witness in the impeachment inquiry appears before house panels under the order of subpoena after the state department directed him not to show up and tried to limit his testimony. all this as republicans turn up the heat on democrats claiming there needs to be more transparency in the entire process. >> when they try to do this in the open of day and judiciary committee, it failed on them. so when they get in that room where they can keep the press out, they can selectively leak out this piece and that piece, instead of getting the whole storely out, and that's what we want. >> i probably share some of the views of my republican colleague, mr. burn, that