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good morning. and we go straight to this fox news alert. the leader of isis is believed to be dead. sources telling fox news that u.s. led forces in syria has killed abu bakr al baghdadi. he had a $25 million county on his head. >> u.s. forces targeting forces in syria with heavy air strikes. president trump is expected to formally announce this in just a few hours. >> we've got lucas thomas son life at the whois this morning. >> president trump is expected to announce the death of the isis leader from the white house
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at 9 a.m. eastern time. u.s. special forces operations forces carried out the raid to kill al baghdadi not far from the turkish border in the sea. there are unconfirmed reports that he was killed in an explosion possibly from a suicide vest. if confirmed, a major victory for president trump who days ago was being criticized from lawmakers from both parties by pulling troops out. the turkish defense minute trisaid in a tweet a short time ago, quote, prior to the u.s. operation in syria last night, information exchange and coordination between the military authorities of both counties took place and the top kurdish leader of the u.s. backed forces saying it helped
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the united states in a tweet, quote, due to a joint intelligence work with the united states of america. it was five years many ago that the isis contained an area the size of ohio. and guys, this is a major victory for president trump. we should hear more in the next few hours from the white house. >> i want to drill a little deeper this morning. i was there at the white house covering white house when he announced to the nation that we had killed osama bin laden. a lot of people pointing out that it was a victory for president obama and this is now a victory for president trump. but at the time a lot of people warning that puttin this is a bg victory but we can't take our eye off of the ball in terms of the terror threat. >> the ideology continues to
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exist worldwide. for five years, remember those videos that filmed in hd showing americans, western hostages, muslims being beheaded wearing orange jumpsuits, the gruesome videos shocking people in the west. but for others it was recruiting. isis inspired attacks. after baghdadi's death, if confirmed, there could be more attacks. certainly the ideology has not been defeated. >> thanks, lucas. appreciate it. >> let's bring in don, a former naval intelligence officer, former bush administration official. after 9/11 he left capitol hill to personally enlist in the navy. sir, rethank you for our service to this great nation. this is a big morning to have you. what are your thoughts this morning as we try to piece together what this means? >> the first thing i would like
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to say is bravo to the men and women responsible for carrying off the raid. these take a remarkable level of precision and professionalism and the fact that we were able to do it with no loss of life from our side, i commend them. you're right. this is a huge blow to isis as they have to reconstitute where they go from here. it will be a setback. this will become a call to arms as they look to see where they go from here and whether this will be a huge recruiting tool moving forward. >> let's look at the information of what we know about baghda ba. he's a high sources target wanted on a $25 million bounty. he was last seen in video in april of 2018. he spent time in u.s. custody after being captured in 2005. i want to get your sense, what
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do you think this will do to the perception of president trump's policy with respect to syria. he's taken a lot of heat over that for the last few weeks. but how will this be viewed in forms of a foreign policy win for the white house? >> this is a huge win for the president. you know, i remember being in iraq as the navy senior interrogator when we had baghdadi in custody. and you know, he prophesied what he would do in the future. what the president has done is shown maybe there's a larger picture to his foreign policy than we thought about for some time. i thought earlier this withdrawal from syria could have been the move that made baghdadi surface enough for the raid to take place. >> if you think about what mitt romney and some other republicans have said, romney
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denouncing the president's decision about syria as a blood stain on america history. chuck schumer saying, among other things, that he doesn't believe the president grasps the gravity of his decision in syria. you're saying this morning that maybe it's just quite the opposite. >> i joined a lot of people a few weeks ago saying that this was bad news, that we should not have been in the kurds. but we're not the ones sitting in the chair with access to the highly classified briefings. and if you have news and credible intelligence of where the leadership is, and this provides an opportunity to take this strike, then it's a very difficult decision that i applaud. >> president trump is going to address the nation live at 9 a.m. eastern time. what are you anticipating to hear from the president on this and what details are yet to emerge that you're hoping he'll clarify? >> there are a lot of details. we've yet to see the dna
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confirmation that this is baghdadi. many times over the past few years we've heard of his death. that's going to be very important that we confirm this was him. baghdadi, just like a lot of people of his kind, they don't want to be captured, they don't want to release the intelligence information so they take a coward's way out, blow themselves up and take their loved ones with them. the president will use this as an opportunity to hopefully show what the u.s. military is and continues to be as one of the strongest fighting forces in this world. >> don, given your vast experience, what would be your recommendation to the president about the way forward. his critics seem to forget it was a few short years ago that his predecessor, barack obama, claimed that isis was the jv squad. now you have people saying this is a serious threat to america and its allies. as you say, the president has won a major victory in that
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fight to isis, a huge blow to isis but what's the way forward to make sure we build on the success? >> the president continues to see isis as a credible threat. they may be much smaller and weaker than when he took office. and aapplaud them. they have an area the size of ohio and now they're hiding in holes and caves. let's commend him for that. look at this one opportunity and the big thing is, let's look at the people who made this happen. our intelligence forces, our military, the president completely respects and holds those people to high regard even when he gets attacked for it. so let's move forward, let's use this as an example to bring this country together for a moment. >> what is the impact for people watching at home, they see one leader, a leader of isis, a powerful person, will be confirmed by the president but
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we suspect has been killed, what is the impact on the ground when it comes to local units, the terrorist compound, what that does as it reverberates through the followers of a al baghdadi s they see that their leader has been taken out. what does that do on the ground? >> it does several things. a lot of people are going to see this as the fact that he did not allow himself to be captured, he took his own life. they're going to see him as a martyr. and that will inspire son. he is more than a man to these people, he's an ideology. he's an inspiration. a lot of people will mourn but they will also rejoice and rethe step. >> i want to make sure that i tbet a full translation of how you started. you said bravo diseu lew? >> it means job well done. >> a victory for president trump
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as you noted but a victory more importantly for the men and women who fight in uniform every single day. we appreciate you reminding us of that. we hope to get back to you throughout the morning with your insight. >> once again we'll hear from the president directly in the 9 a.m. hour. i'm sure he'll have a lot to clarify about this. we're going to turn to your headlines. right now police are on a massive manhunt for the gunman who shot up a college homecoming party overnight. two people are dead and 14 will heard at the university. there is no active shooter threat on campus. also breaking this morning, raging wildfires. the fire torching northern california with high winds in the forecast. the state's biggest utility is cutting off power to nearly one million people to prevent downed lines from sparking more fires.
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about 400 miles south, incredible video of a family escaping the tip fire as it closes in on their home. and a live look in hong kong this morning where the tensions are high between police and protesters. hours ago police releasing tear gas at the demonstrators. the months' long movement now aimed at holding police accountable. they're using water cannons and pepper spray against the protesters. big news morning for you. your breaking news coverage continues. the leader of isis believed to be dead this morning in a u.s.-led raid in syria. we'll bring you the latest details as he get it throughout the morning. >> and a brand-new wall being built along one of the busiest sections of the border. our next guest says it's badly needed. don't miss it.
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. we are back with a fox news alert. the leader of isis abu bakr al baghdadi killed by u.s. head forces in syria. we're awaiting final confirmation of all of that. forces targeting syria with heavy air strikes for two hours according to a witness on the ground. the president of the united states, president trump expected to formally announce the leader's death at 9 a.m. eastern time. we're going to cover that live. we're all over the story all morning long but we're also watching other stories. brand-new border wall is under way in the rio grande valley of south texas. according to cbp, 325,000 people have been apprehended in the region this year alone. a spokesperson told fox getting this new wall capability for the agents is truly a game changer. here to discuss live, the
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president of the border council. good morning. >> thanks for having me with you. president trump just beat the -- i'm sorry. i just cut you off. president trump just beat the obstructionist. he went forward and had the political will to do what was needed. and the winners of this is the american public. the american public want border security, they want the worder secured not just from the illegal crossers but from the ilillicit drugs coming across te board. this is a tool they can use to secure the border and put the pieces of the border security together. >> let's look at the numbers. southwest border apprehensions down almost 65% right now from the peak in may, 2019 more than 800,000 people have been detained while crosses america's southern border. that again this year.
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brandon, talk about what you think the biggest factors are in terms of that decline. at the biggest part of the year there had been a surge, the president cut that deal with mexico. a lot of scept sicks saying it's not going to change anything. it seems like it has. >> when you look at the landscape of border security, you have to understand that there are several pieces of the puzzle that we have to put together. these husband l pieces have been separated across the border and we haven't been able to take them and put them together to create that one landscape that will allow us to drive illegal immigration down. and that's when president trump stepped in. he took a look and spoke with the experts and they told him, if we can hold people in mexico pending their asylum from seeding, that will help. if we can get the technology and the personnel, that will help. if we can get the walls with, that will help. all of the pieces of the puzzle are now coming together and we're seeing it pay huge
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dividends. slong questioas long as we conth forward we'll continue to get huge gains across the southwest border. >> we're showing the video on the scene of border wall construction from california to new mexico and now arizona. how much border wall construction are we talking about, do we know how many miles and talk about the impact you think that will have. >> ultimately what we're looking at is approximately 200 miles by the end of 2020. and if we put those walls -- and again i know we're going to. but when we put those walls in the strategic locations, it's going to allow us to dictate where the flow of illegal border crosses, the illegal narcotics are coming across the border. by allowing us to dictate where that takes place, it will allow us to be a lot more successful and be able to keep those criminals out of the country, we'll be able to keep the drugs
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out of the country and what that's going to do is that's going to help suburban america where the drugs are coming into and all of our children being killed, we're going to be able to save thousands of live doing this. >> brandon judd, appreciate you coming in. >> thank you. there are growing calls this morning frr republicans for adam smif to place an ethics probe as the impeachment query continues behind door disbloos breaking coverage of our top story all morning long. the leader of isis believed to be killed in a u.s.-led forces in syria. "fox & friends" continues in mere moments. no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on our car insurance with geico. i got snacks! ohhh, i got popcorn,
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we are back with some quick headlines. a truck driver charged with manslaughter after 39 bodies were found in the back seat of a semi truck. maurice robinson is the fifth person arrested in the case. the truck was discovered in england and all of the victims are believed to have come from asia. north korea sending a warning to the u.s. senior officials say even a close relationship between the president and king jong-un isn't enough to salvage nuclear talks. the official adding that hostility could lead to an exchange of fire at any moment. over to you, pete. democratsconduct their impeachment query behind closed door, tea party patriots urging the congressional ethics office to investigate whether adam schiff violated house rules in pursuit of the query.
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thank you both for being here this morning. lay a out your case on this. >> well, it's clear that adam schiff is determined to get president trump. he's willing to run roughshod over the american values of due process, minority reitz, innocence until proven guilty and the right to face one's accuser. he shouldn't be -- adam schiff should not be chairing a committee of congress let alone the so-called impeachment query. he's lied to the american public. he's lied before his committee. he had contact with -- he and his staff had contact with the whistle-blower and he said they did not, and we know that was a false hood. he also lied in the opening testimony on september 27th to the committee about the transcript of the call that president trump had with the
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ukrainian president disa linsky. he made up a transcript rather than reading the official record of the conversation and putting that into the congressional record. he's violating rule 23 of the house rules which says a member of the house shall behave in a manner at all times that reflects credibly on the house and that is not what he is doing. >> richard, setting aside whrorpt you think there are impeachable offenses, when you compare this to the clinton impeachment, nixon and others, do you feel that they're playing this above board in a way that will give bipartisan credibility to this if you really believe in it? >> they are doing that. if you look at the rules from the bill clinton impeachment, they're being followed by the letter of the law. what happened in the first stage of this investigation is fact finding. and in those fact-finding conversations, in those depositions, both members of the
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democratic members of the committee and republican members of the committee are allowed to say. there's 45 minutes of questioning around a witness, democrats get 45 munlts, republicans get 45 minutes. we're not in the phase of the investigation. >> something that consequential, richard. we know i nothing about it. >> this is the same rules followed under bill clinton. >> yes. it with as conversation between both committees with both parties in the room. is that not what's happening now? diswhr no that is not what's happening now. when president clinton was going through this the full house actually had a vote. >> we're not at that stage of the investigation yet, though. >> well, if you're going to compare it to clinton, you're the one who began comparing it to clinton. >> i did. a correct comparison. >> in that situation the house of representatives took a vote on what the rules for the
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impeachment query would be. >> we're not in the. >> that has not happened yet. >> richard, you have to acknowledge. >> sit an impeachment query. >> richard, this is in the intelligence committee, not the judicial committee. there has been no vote to establish the parameters. the minority has no ability to subpoena witnesses. there's no council fo count swee president involved in this. how can you compare this. >> we're mixing apples and oranges. right now the intelligence committee and the gov oversight committee are engaging in an investigation np in this investigation both republicans and democrats are allowed to ask questions and they're both given the same amount of time. number two. number three, this is the discovery part of the investigation. the defendant is not allowed to see the witnesses because they're not in a trial part yet.
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that's what it says per our constitution and that's what the process is. >> jenny beth, last word on the process. >> the fact is it is not happening the way it happened under president clinton. that had a lot of sunshine. we saw things happened in the committee. >> what's different? >> we, the american people, knew what was happening. >> do we not know what's happening now. >> we have a right to see what's happening inside this committee. >> no, richard. >> adam schiff. >> richard, they're trying to impeach a president and we don't know what's going on. we have to leave it right there. we got no more time. e-mail us mayb friends@foxnews.. thank you both for being here this morning. the leader of isis believed to be killed by u.s.-led forces. our next guest is a former foreign policy adviser and says the move is the president fulfilling his most important
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. we are back with this fox news alert. the leader of isis is believed to be dead this morning. sources telling fox that abu bakr al-baghdadi has been killed in syria. >> u.s.-led forces targeting syria for some two hours according to witnesses on the ground. >> president trump is expected to announce the death of one of
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the world's most elusive terrorists at 9 a.m. eastern time. >> we want to bring in a hudson institute fellow. good morning to you, rebecca. >> good morning. >> what are your initial thoughts as you wake up and make sense of what seems like a big victory for the president? >> one, that he did this in the face of mounting political pressure to get out of syria. the president constantly has this on his mind that he promised his base that he was going to get out of the middle east. and in the face of this he said, wait a second, we've got baghdadi, we can go to him, get him. and so he defended the american people, which h is his primary responsibility above all of the campaign promises this is what he has to do. i'm hearing word that the united states cooperated with kurdish forces, it was the kurdish forces working with our intelligence community to find babaghdadi and go in there and make sure that we take him out. if we can take out the physical
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caliphate and take out their leadership, the last little bits of leadership, that is a huge victory for the united states and our allies. >> talk to us about the significance of this. you kill the leader, you don't necessarily defeat everything involved with it. but the significance of he stood on that podium in july of 2014, declared a caliphate. for him to be dead, what does that say about the state of isis today? >> it's a huge victory for us. if they can keep their leaders hidden so that the united states can't find them and then they occasionally pop up a leader to do a video, they use it for pr, they use it for propaganda to say look, even the world's super power, the united states, can't find our leaders. and so that gives them great momentum and great confidence in their cause that maybe, you know, allah is behind them and that they're able to sustain even the biggest military onslaught from the united states and our allies. but if the united states can cut
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off the head and take out somebody like baghdadi, it's a huge -- it's very demoralizing for isis and it puts a big dent in their operations. but to your point, there can be other baghdadi. that reminds the american people that what president trump has done here -- he carried on some of the efforts of president obama -- is to keep a small light special operator's u.s. footprint in the area but rely on local fighters so that we know where the bad guys are and we can conduct air strike to take them out. >> how does this impact our foreign policy in the region and how does it affect the perception of the decisions that president trump has made with respect to the rejoon? >region?>> it's a reminder thatd as we want out, sometimes the enemy suggests that we're not the only ones that have a say. president trump made some interesting comments in light of his announcement previously that we're leaving syria.
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he said i don't want war but maybe we'll have it. he kind of goes back and forth which is interesting. it shows you where he is on this. he desperately doesn't want to see american servicemen killed. we've lost eight american servicemen in syria since we began fighting there but we're relying on the kurds. the kurds have had 11,000 deaths. that's why we've been successful. it's a reminder that maybe a light footprint is a small cost if we can actually protect the american people and keep isis and other islamic mil militantst bay. >> a few moments ago we had another expert on saying maybe the president's approach, people have simply not given him enough credit. when you have mitt romney calling the president's moves in syria a blood stain on the u.s. history and days later we apparently take out this isis leader. don's point is that maybe
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pulling troops and having that lighter footprint that you mentioned actually smoked out baghdadi and led him to believe oh, i can come out of hiding now and then we went in and got him. >> it's hard to know all of the different moving parts that happened behind the scenes that allowed this to be a success. even though we're moving forces, we're going to add forces now to protect some of the oil fields in the region because we want to ensure that isis doesn't take those over. what the president is primarily concerned about is having the u.s. military in the middle of a conflict. he's much more comfortable putting u.s. forces in a place where there isn't a lot of conflict happening to serve as a deterrent and again the let the local fighters do a lot of the fighting and to let us know kind of what's going on. i think president trump learned a lesson here that even if he's right about what we need to do, he needs to lean on the process, cooperate with our allies and partners. and we can have great success
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and hopefully get what the president wants politically but again doing what's most important, getting the foundation right and the foreign policy right. adds for mitt romney, he's fairly irrelevant at this point when it comes to foreign policy sphwhr rebecca, thank you so much for joining us this morning, bringing information to this historic moment. reappreciate it. as you mentioned, the president will be speaking today, this morning, in a couple of hours, 9 a.m. eastern time on this very subject. a lot has changed in that region. we've heard in reports up to a week this has been in the planning. we'll get more details. >> understanding that chuck schumer a few days ago u was saying the president doesn't quote the gravity of the situation heb does not understand it in talking about the syria decision. it will be interesting to get reaction from romney, schumer and others who have been critical of the president. >> and the point that rebecca made that a lot of things go on
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behind the scenes that we're unaware of. sometimes it takes that to see if there is an underlying strategy that we're not aware of that could be impactful in the vie john. region. hoping to get clarity from him at 9 a.m. about what else is going on, if any other leaders of isis were impacted by this and what may be his long term vision. >> and we'll get details on the actual raid itself. >> reports saying that baghdadi's two wives were killed in the operation, his children were not harmed. there's a lot more coming out 9 a.m. eastern right here on the fox news channel. the fbi joining the massive search for a missing teenager in northern virginia. 14-year-old isabel hicks vanishing from her home. authorities believe she was taken by a 33-year-old man, bruce lynch. there's a felony abduction warrant out for his arrest. he's considered armed and dangerous. police believe they a may have
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left the state in this silver toyota and could be stay in camping areas. new york city accused of secretly sending homeless people to live in cities across america without telling those cities, according to the new york post that reports that the city's one-time assistance program has cost taxpayers $89 million in rent alone. the program giving the homeless one year of free rent along with travel expenses. the post reports that more than 1200 homeless people have been shipped out to other cities across america since this program started in 2017. have a look at this. a suspected drunk driver crashes his pickup truck through the front of the gas station. after yanking his license plates off, the driver strolls out of the store like nothing happened. he was later caught by a michigan deputy and facing multiple charges and has been ordered to never ever return to
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the station again. oh, boy. an and kamala harris speakig at a criminal justice forum after dropping out. the 2020 hopeful refused to attend the bipartisan justice centers event in south carolina. obviously a critical primary state. after the group honored president trump for his work on the first step act. she only reversed course when the group was removed as a sponsor. >> i said i would not come because i couldn't believe that trump would be given an award as it relates to criminal justice reform. >> harris is one of ten 2020 democrats attending the forum. those are your head lines. might be symbolic of how her campaign has gone. >> perfect representation of where does she stand, what does she stand for. >> on anything. >> i don't know. i'm in, i'm out. >> we'll be talking politics but
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staying on top of the breaking news. kanye west slamming liberals in an interview. >> last year you tried to tell me who i'm supposed to vote for because i'm black and now this year white liberals telling me who i'm supposed to vote for because i'm christian. >> what else he said that's making headlines this morning. plus we begin to follow the breaking news overnight. the leader of isis believed to be killed in a u.s.-led raid in syria. more flnd "fox & friends" cominp next.
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determine what exactly the substance is. and connecticut state troopers stopping a massive drug shipment with the help of their k9 companions, sniffing out more than 400 pounds of marijuana hidden in a truck pulled over for a violation. the truck's driver and passenger were arrested. well done, dogs. >> good for the dogs. they do a lot of hard work. kanye west has a new album out and he's making some news. it's interesting given the political situation in the u.s. right now. he was in the oval office and the democrats were fired up because it turns out that kanye west is thinking on his own. >> remember, the cap makes him feel like superman. >> yeah. he was on his interview with big boy tv and as you all know, kanye west doesn't hold anything back. he's unapologetic about his beliefs often talking about race, religion, politics. check out this sound bite. he's talking about liberals
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sayinsaying that they're tryingo control who he votes for based on his race and religion. >> they were fighting for us to have the right to our opinion, not the right to vote for whoever the white lib. liberal said black people are supposed to vote for. last year you tried to tell me who i'm supposed to vote for because i'm black. now this year white liberals are trying to tell me who i'm supposed to vote for because i'm christian. your vision of what i'm supposed to do. and i understand like a lot of people, it's not a matter of whether you like it or who like it, we are in a country where we're allowed to like whatever we like. >> and his new album is called jesus is king. in l.a. he started out doing these religious services, getting all kinds of young people who are not going to church coming out to hear about scripture. he did it in howard university in washington recently. getting people of all faiths,
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all races, all ages, all groups, white, black, whatever you are to come out and talk more about your faith. of course he's going to get attacked by some. >> his individual is see me as an individual, as who i am. not the color of my skin. i want to be judged by the content of my character and i have the right to decide what my politics are, what my faith is, who i associate with and why. he's precisely right. it was flawed at the beginning but that has been the premise of america to start. you're equal in the rights of god and the right to pursue your own happiness. not because you're a black man or a white woman. but we're in this age of politics where we put you in a category and based on that category you're for something. he' rejecting all of that. for someone of his pop culture significance to be speaking these truths, it gets through to people. >> it's very gutsy for someone
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to do that. you know, he's in hollywood, has this album out. he's not worried about how it's going to affect his album sales. he's saying what he wants to say. he's hoping to inspire other people who may disagree to come out and feel empowered to have a voice. many critics have said that he has turned hi back on black culture in particular and he had a response to that. take a listen. >> i have turned my back on the idea of victimization mentality. we're locked up. the culture has you focused so much on [bleep] somebody's [bleep] and pulling up and rapping about things that could get you locked up and saying you're about prison reform. this is a free man talking. democratshad us voting democrats for years, bro. what are you talking about. guns in the '80s, taking the
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fathers out of the home. plan b, lowering our votes, making us abort our children. >> talking about things people don't want to talk about out loud. they don't want to hear it from kanye. >> they need to hear it from kay yay bukanye. they're hearing it from someone who they don't necessarily expect to be so outspoken 0 on these issues and it's an important position that he's taken. >> he's supported the president but it's bigger than that. it's a larger cultural there teak. big plans for president trump today. we thought the biggest thing was that he was going to go to the world series, game five in washington, it's all tied up. >> but first he'll address the nation. the leader of isis believed to be killed by u.s. forces. we're live from the pentagon at the top of the hour.
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list. >> what does this mean to you? >> it means everything to me. the most special thing is the kids and the parents. >> what is it like to have someone like that in your community? >> the kids respond to that positive role giving. the last person they saw said have a great day. >> we feel so lucky to have mr. jeff on our street. >> he's someone that shows up and does his work every day with so much heart. >> every day is a beautiful day. i'm just serving those kids. >> thank you. it's been our pleasure. believe me. >> thank the kids. they made this happen. >> so certainly not necessarily probably the outcome he wanted toe see in the game but he got his bucket list completed in going to the world series game. the series is two games apiece. game five tonight, 8:07. back to you. >> looks like it may be raining on the nationals parade.
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. we are back with a fox news alert. the leader of isis this morning believed to be dead. forces telling fox news that abu bakr al-baghdadi has been killed in syria. >> u.s.-led forces targeting isis positions for some two hours. >> president trump is expected to announce the death of one of the most notorious and elusive terrorists at 9 a.m. this morning. lucas has been following this story at the pet gone. >the pentagon.>> president trumd to make this announcement from the white house in a few hours.
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officials tell me that u.s. officials carried out the raid in syria, a known terrorist strong hold not far from the turkish border and the mediterranean sea. there are unconfirmed reports that baghdadi was killed in an explosion, possibly from a suicide vest he was wearing. baghdadi's death marks a major victory for the u.s. military and president trump who just days ago was criticized for pulling troops out of syria. the turkish defense ministry said in a tweet a short time ago it helped the u.s. military in the raid, quote, prior to the operation in syria last night, information exchange and coordination between the military authorities of both countries took place. the main u.s. ally in syria against isis said that his forces helped the u.s., quote, successful and historical operation due to a joint intelligence work with the
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united states of america. it was just five years ago that isis controlled an area the size of ohio in syria and baghdadi made a speech on march 4th declaring himself rule. >> our entire knew team has been working throughout the night. appreciate it. >> al-baghdadi a mysterious figure. hi served in iraq. he was born there and grew up there. he was detained. there was a lot of radicalization that happened there. he wasn't known as a scholar or particularly intelligent. he wasn't nearsighted so he couldn't join the military. but over time he was able to build this army. and sort of a totally accidental leader. i'll never forget where i was on july 4th when he took to the
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podium and declared a physical caliphate between iraq and syria ultimately because the vacuum has been created it took us until the election of president trump to take it seriously. >> with is it impactful when one leader is taken out? he's the leader but there are other people in the region doing the damage. what is the impact on our military in those a regions? >> i think this is devastating for isis only because their physical caliphate has been destroyed. there are remnants and people still associating with it. but the fact that he could evade the u.s. forces gave him an air of mystery. when he's killed, there's no longer a caliphate. it's not the kill shot for the whole ideology at all but man is it a big one overall in the fact of who leads them, where do they go, what's the next step. >> let's start answering some of those questions with steve rogers, fbi and joint terror tax
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task force. good morning. >> i covered barack obama when he wu saying that isis was allegedly the jv team. when president trump takes office, isis has a caliphate and has control, as pete was referring to, about the size of ohio. now they're basically hiding in caves and gasping for breath. talk about the arc of isis and what president trump has done. >> well you used the word hiding. i remember some time ago president trump said in reference to baghdadi he can run but he can't hide. and the president provided u.s. intelligence agencies with the equipment and the resources that they needed to capture him or kill him. and i'll tell you what, he did the job. the president made a promise and he did the job. now keep in mind that u.s. intelligence will not release how they got the information. that's very important. you have human intelligence on the ground. as you know, they have leg
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strontic intelligence forces. but the fact of the matter is the president was criticized for taking forces out of syria but he knew what we didn't know. the president knew that u.s. intelligence was working with the kurds to get this guy. >> and he authorized this operation days ago. >> days ago. >> while everybody was pounding him, he knew in private that something big may be coming. >> he certainly did. that's important. to the point of when you said, this is big. it destroys the morale of isis and all of our enemies. as the president said, you can run but you can't hide from the united states. >> and obviously we're going to hear from the president at 9 a.m. we're going to hear more information about how this takedown actually happened. but in terms of the larger picture, what do you expect to hear from the president with respect to overall strategy in syria itself? >> well i believe what we're going to hear is that he continues to work hard with our allies contrary to what everyone else is saying to gather intelligence and information. a lot of what we're seeing now
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are special operations where u.s. forces are no longer in harm's way. let's make it clear that there were no u.s. losses or even what we have heard as of late, no injuries at all. it was a clean operation. i believe that we're going to hear that the united states did receive a lot of intelligence on the ground when they conducted this raid. there's probably more to come and he may release some of that information at 9:00. >> steve, we hadn't heard much about al-baghdadi, a tape here, an audio recording here. but initial reports are he had changedded what he was doing. he was wearing regular civilian clothes, no one around him could have a cell fon obviously. they don't want to be attacked. what changed in the fee ralety viewing what we know openly that changed the game so we were able to target someone like al-baghdadi who could have been hiding in one place for a long time. we don't know. >> one game changer was the president saying he was
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withdrawing troops from syria. he let this guy's guard down. he was out dressed like a normal person out in the area he was hiding in. so you know what, hay believe the u.s. is on the run, they're getting out of here, not paying attention. boy did he get a surprise because the president was paying attention. >> and the last time the president made major remarks on this, a formal speech, several days ago at the white house, i recall the president saying that the cease-fire was going to hold on the ground. he was putting a positive foot forward and there was one pundit after another saying this is his mission accomplished moment meaning it's going to blow up in his face. all of this negativity in the media about what might go wrong. we woke up this morning and found out what went right. >> as a former u.s. navy intelligence officer web i see these people, pundits, former officers, they politicize this process so badly, they hate
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president trump so badly they're not looking out for the interest of the country. thank god he's focused on keeping his promises and defending us and he did through this operation. >> you're saying that al-baghdadi could have potentially let his guard down in response to the president calling for the troop withdrawal in syria. do you think that was strategic on the part of the administration, to announce that in order to achieve that effect? >> i think a lot of people underestimate the president's tactics and his strategy. he did something that was unexpected. getting out of syria or at least announcing it. did we really get out? there was a redeployment of the troops. yes, i believe the president had this information probably workinworking with his military strategist. this was a good way to get this guy exposed . >> the president has taken a lot of criticism for his policy in the region. al-baghdadi presumably dead. the caliphate destroyed. you've got a situation where the
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u.s. presence is standing between multiple forces that want control of that ground where we have poured precious lives and money in for a long time. as you step back, what is the criticism? >> it's all politics. i've seen nothing of a pounding of this president for doing his job. and when you ask for specifics, there are no specifics. what are they going to say when they wake up this morning? what on earth are they going to say when they wake up after they've pounded this man week after week about his strategy regarding the mideast. all they can say is here we go again, he wins, we lose. diswhr a lot of the pounding came from the republican party. >> fortunately the president quinns again. he's fulfilled his promise. >> has anybody checked on mitt romney this morning? we'll be watching his twitter feed. steve rogers, appreciate it. >> appreciate it. we're going to turn to
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headlines for you beginning with a fox news alert. police will on a massive man hupt for the gunman who shot up a college homecoming party overnight. two people are dead and 14 are hurt after the off-campus party at the texas a&m university. there is no active shooter threat on campus. and also breaking this morning, raging wildfires forcing 90,000 people out of their homes. the kincade fire torch 26,000-acres in northern california with the possibility of hurricane-like wind gusts, the state's biggest utility is cutting off power to 2 million people to prevent downed lines from sparking more fires. 400 miles south the tick fire has scorched 4600-acres in southern california and only 55% contained. we're going to turn now to extreme weather for you. tropical storm olga tears through alabama and mississippi.
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the storm spurring two tornado in alabama damaging homes and downs trees. the storm knocking out power to thousands of people. dozens of flights were canceled or delayed at the new orleans airport. olga downgraded to a post tropical cyclone as it well apart in the gulf. >> those are your headlines. in meantime, historic changes could be coming to the catholic church. bishops pushing the pope on a plan could married men become priests. isis leader al-baghdadi confirmed dead. reaction from congressman devinn nunes coming up.
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al-baghdadi confirmed dead. military sources telling fox news by u.s.-led forces in syria. forces targeting isis positions in syria with heavy air strikes for some two hours according to witnesses on the ground. president trump is expected to talk about the takedown of the isis leader at 9 a.m. eastern time this morning. of course we will carry it live here on the fox news channel. and to another big story, catholic bishops backing an historic proposal to allow some married men to be ordained as priest to address a clergy shortage in the region. according to a cbs poll, nearly 70% of catholic americans are in favor of letting priests marry. but with pope francis approve the proposal? here to discuss, jonathan morris. jonathan, thank you for being here this morning. this is a big question. this is a way the church has
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seen marriage for priests for quite some time. does this change make sense? do you support it? >> well, first of all, it is a huge fact. even now i would say six months ago but ten years ago it was unheard of to think that two-thirds of bishops in a meeting like this would make the proposal to pope francis. pope francis has said i want the hear from you. he would have a hard time not approving this. this is a big deal. do i support it? i support the conversation. why? above all because i think having married priests in the priesthood will kind of open up the doors and i think it would also increase the quality. there would be a greater number of candidates. i agree the conversation should be had. i don't like how pope francis did this. he brought representatives together from a small region of the world, the amazon region, using that like a laboratory. once the door is opened, i think
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it's impossible to stop it throughout the rest of the church. cheurnl i think it would have bn better and more transparent if the pope would have had that conversation with those around the world. >> so many people do support the ability of priests po marry knowing full well that it will keep more people in the priesthood. so where does the objection arise? >> well, theologically it really comes from st. paul and first corinthians talked about if somebody is not married and dedicating themselves to the lord, better that he stay not married. when you're married you're concerned about the things of the world and the concerns of your family. but i think there's practical reasons as well, maybe not good practical reasons. it's cheaper if priests are single, cheaper for the church and easier to move them from one parrish to the other. the combination of theological and practical. but the scarcity of priests in
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the amazon region is immediately going to go there's a scarcity of priests in new york city, san diego, california, all over the world, in vienna, austria. this is a big step. >> i got to ask about your story. our viewers know you left the priesthood. if you had been able to be in a relationship or be married, would you still be a priest today in. >> that's a good question. i don't know is the short answer, the direct answer. but i think it would change a lot. and i think it should be open, the conversation should be open. i say i don't know personally because i've made a huge transition and my priority is going to be professional and then if dwod gives me the gift of a family, it's going to be family. when it happens i'll reconsider. >> do you think if priests around the world were posed that question, catholic priests posted that question, how would a lot of them answer? i think i would be more inclined
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to uphold their commitment to the church if they were allowed to have an outside life in terms of a relationship, a marriage and a family? >> it's a great question and i think this step is important. i think it will be a very good thing for the church. they're talking about not just telling all of the priests now you can get married. but they're talking about orda ordaining tested married men already. so married men who would now like to become priests. and i think it's going to be an earthquake for the church. >> you mentioned earthquake. there's a reason this has been done as you talked about back to paul. there's thee logic reasons. does this have a ripple effect inside the catholic church when a land-standing rule like this is changed? >> it's not just married priests that we're talking about here. also there was a prac paragraphn this proposal about female decons and that was also passed.
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pope francis will have to look at that and go into the tee logicatheological issues there. why did clies choose 12 men to follow him as his closest collaborators. i think as soon as you open this door to having decisions made and what they're talking about, a meeting in which people are basically -- these representatives are voting on their ideas to be presented to the pope. and now he has to -- you know, he has to make the decision. but it's a big change. >> thanks for being here thoad, jonathan. always appreciate it. well, fired fbi director james comey ready to move? >> what if he wins again, will you still believe that? >> i will be from my new home in new zealand i will. >> oh, boy. here we go again. >> here we go. >> how many times have we heard that. a trip down memory lane coming
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. we are back with this. fox sources telling us that the leader of isis is confirmed to be head. a u.s. military source confirming that abu bakr al-baghdadi has been killed in syria. >> we're getting brand-new details on exactly what happened on the ground. >> we're live in jerusalem with the later. trey? >> good morning. military sources are confirming to fox news that the leader of
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the iz lac islamic state abu bar al-baghdadi is dead. dna tests were used to confirm his sidety as president trump is expected to make a formal announcement from the white house at 9 a.m. eastern time. here's what we know so far. according to defense sources sos speaking with fox news, we want to be careful in our reporting about some details of exactly what happened are unclear hat this point. according to sources just after midnight a group of eight helicopters attacked positions s held by an al qaeda group. the u.s. forces conducted a raid to capture or kill the leader of the islamic state who had a $25 million bounty on his head. sourcestell us that he detonated a suicide vest killing himself. there are no news yet on whether any of the special forces were injured during the operation.
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turkey is trying t -- u.s. forcs saying that turkey had no involvement. they did not help in any way. russia was notified ahead of this on a deep confliction line to warn them this was going to take place in order to secure the safety of the u.s. forces conducting the operation. a spokesperson for the kurdish forces fighting turkish forces tweeting out this morning taking credit for the intelligence that led up to this operation. all we know at this moment is that the united states says that russia was notified ahead of time and turkey did not participate in this operation. the death of al-baghdadi is symbolic. the united states has been chasing this terrorist for a very long time. it's important to note that while the islamic state is not
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completely destroyed, this will be a major win for the president who has been trying to target al-baghdadi for a long time. >> thank you for that report, on the ground in judo. jerusalem. we'll get back to him. >> the reports are that al-baghdadi detonated a stdz vest whesuicidevest when they e- courageous to the end. it's being described as a dangerous raid, which of course it was. >> the president will talk about it at 9 a.m. eastern at the white house. >> incredible what these guys do. >> looking forward to hear his context. a little politics, fired fbi director james comey, just reveal what will happen to him if president trump is reelected. >> our leaders must reflect the glue that holds us together. they can't be people who lie all of the time. they just can't. and i hope people see that's true whether they're republicans
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or democrats. >> what if he wins again, will you still win that? >> i will be -- from my new home in new zealand i will. >> not the first time we've heard something like that. despite staying put, many celebrities made the same vow as soon as the president announced he was running. >> actor dean cain joins us to weigh in. welcome back. >> great to be here on a wonderful rainy sunday. >> this drives me crazy because actors and politicians, i don't know what comey considers himself these days, but then i brace myself for the exit and they don't go anywhere. >> it's a lot of hot air. but if james comey does actually go to ne new zealand. he'll be unarmed and he'll have wonderful places to take pictures of his nature walks. >> he's not going anywhere. >> what is that mind-set?
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is it because they see the president as just an absolute enemy untenable, i can't live here if he's the president? i didn't support barack obama but i never said i'm leaving the country because he's elected. where does that mind-set come from. >> i'm going to take my ball and go home. it's a playground menta mentali. not a seng l person has left. as far as i know, nobody has gone. so it's just a lot of hot air, a lot of, you know, if i don't wiy don't like the president. it's not policy, this or that. they don't like the president so they'll do anything and say anything to disparage him or the country or the party or whatever it happens to be. i just don't like him so much that i'm going to go to new zealand. >> wouldn't it be smarter for them to say i don't like the president and i'm going to stay here and fight against these policies? that's what they do. they don't actually leave.
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say what's going to happen. >> oh, stop making sense. what are you talking about here. you're going to have a baby like on air. >> like this hour maybe. >> incredible. >> you want superman to deliver it. >> i would help out. >> that would be great t. >tv.>> i was like, she might hae the baby going up the stairs. >> it could happen. >> less than two weeks. >> you've been pregnant for 15 weeks. >> 15 years. >> none of those people are going anywhere. and it would be smart to say they're going to fight. that's too sensible. >> it's pretty cavalier for him to do it. but he's staring at this report from the inspector general that's going to look at comey's report and others and now there's a criminal investigation. i'm not saying he's going to be charge. we don't know. we have to follow the facts. but comey and brennon and all of these other guys are under the microscope. d>> do we have an extradition
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treaty with new zealand? i'm kidding. that's the whole deal. there's a lot of heat going to come down on these guys. >> it's one thing for an actress, it's another thing for the former fbi director to echo those things. >> because we know actors are ridiculous. >> no. it may be raining but you brought the sunshine like you always do. >> one other thing, princeton tigers. >> beat harvard. i was watching the game. >> you said you brought your game and you did. >> never ever disappoint. >> thanks you, as always. on to a serious fox news alert. the leader of isis, abu bakr al-baghdadi, confirmed dead. and we're learning brand-new details about what happened inside the compound on that raid where u.s.-led forces ultimately killed him. congressman devin nunes joins us to react. riendly ghost? hey jill! hey kurt!
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. the leader of asis is confirmed dead at this hour. abu bakr al-baghdadi killed in syria after a u.s.-load special forces operation. >> a defense official telling fox news the isis leader detonated a suicide vest killing himself after troops stormed a compound. >> despite claims i from turkey, u.s. sources say they did not help in any way. >> there's a lot happening and we're going to go to u.s.
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congressman devin nunes. dad morning. wgood morning.in addition to thf taking out a critical terror leader of isis, you have the broader picture in washington where you are where not just democratic leaders like chuck schumer but republican leaders like mitt romney have been criticizing the president's policy in syria and now we see there may be some fruit to this. >> here in the swamp everybody thinks they're a genius. as pete knows because he's served there, this is a very difficult situation in the middle east and we've long been dealing with al qaeda and isis. this province, we've been watching it closely. it's been difficult because you've got to conflict between russians and syrians and turkey. it's a tough place for us to get to to gather intelligence. we've known that isis and al qaeda remnants are hiding out there. it's the last place that's
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ungoverned. the other place is near the oil wells that the president wants to secure. so i think a lot of this, dealing with this situation in the middle east, it ebbs and flows and no one should take -- there is no genius because we haven't been able to solve this for hundredance hundred hundredf years. baghdadi if in fact he's killing witkilled,which all indications, next on the list is stil. >> you being on the intel committee, did you have a sense that was imminent i? did we know where he was and were tracking him? the president has taken criticism for his approach in that region saying we can't stay here forever. how does that fit together? >> there are only remnants left of the house intelligence
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committee. i think it's better known as the house impeachment committee. we haven't done a briefing in over a month. i have to do my briefing separately. like i said, we've been well aware that it has been the focus for not just isis but other a al qaeda figures. as to a tipoff to congress we did not get that, nor should we. we don't need to know about operational issues. and you know, pete, serving, you don't want one of the politicians here to leak out. it puts or armed forces in danger. >> i want to shift topics with you. you have been at the forefront of exposing the deep state, with respect to the steele dossier. there's an yowp coming book by lee smith "the plot against the president, the true story of how devin nunes uncovered the biggest political scandal in u.s. history." can you tell us a little bit about that?
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>> one of the things that i learned in the last few years dealing with the russian-gate hoax, there were a few reporters that tried to get to the bottom of actually what was happening. and lee smith was one of them. lee smith is one of those old school reporters that gets his feet on the ground and gathered information. and i think what you're going to see in this book that people don't know about yet is that christopher steele was more of a salesman for the dossier. you know, the infamous do dossir that the democrats paid for and gave to the fbi. this is his research. there were only a few people, few journalists around the country that tried to get the real facts and he's one of them. >> there will be all kinds of revelations coming out with that book as it is published in the days ahead. but in the meantime we're all waiting for what john durham may
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do. do you believe that now that we're learning this is officially a criminal investigation that john brennon and other obama-era officials are going to be held accountable or is this another washington thing where we hear a lot of gashing around, we're going to hold people accountable and at the end of it there's nothing there? >> i don't think so, ed. here's why. we have been on this case -- house republicans have been on this case of what was the real start date of cross fire hurricane. we know it wasn't the end of july. okay. and we were obstructed in our investigation and we continued to find bits and bits and pieces of evidence, including, to give credit to the good journalists out there, some of the jowcialists had to bring us information because our own doj and fbi wouldn't give it to us. what is clear is that papadopoulos, carter page and others were targeted likely by
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our government or some combination of our government and people who were being paid for by the clinton campaign and the democratic national committee. we believe the information into the trump campaign began in late 2015 for sure no later than early 2016. and i think lee smith lays out in his book pretty well ow that happened. >> real interesting stuff. they say the news media journalists are the first draft of history. now we're getting to the second or third on what really happened. fascinating book. thanks i for your time. turning to your headlines. the police chief the victim of theft. while out to dinner in chicago, chief maggie deboard in the city for the international chiefs of police conference. her purse was taken off of the chair next to her while she was eating out. no one was hurt and the incident is being investigated. a county sheriff in north
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carolina slammed for refusing to work with i.c.e. the agency blasting the sanctuariry's policies after the sheriff asked them to open up the dialogue and now accused ignoring repeated requests to talk in private. and joe biden says he's not worried about 2020 rival elizabeth warren's rise in the polls. >> she doesn't affect any strategy period. i think she's a fine person, good candidate. but, you know, i didn't get involved in deciding to run because of poll og ar particular strategy. i got involved to run because i thought it was so critical that we defeat a man who is absolutely ripping this country apart. >> that's what it looks like when you don't believe. a recent poll of likely iowa
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caucus voters saw biden fall to forth place twiend warren, buttigieg and bernie sanders. >> elton john still standing but needs a little rest. ♪ >> legendary singer canceling a show in indianapolis because he felt extremely unwell, this after the death of his mother-in-law. john promised fans the show they deserve at a new date in march. the 72-year-old is on a three-year farewell tour set to end in 2021. and those are your headlines. >> we wish him well. >> for sure. kanye west says liberals are trying to control his vote ahead of 2020. >> last year y'all tried to tell me who i was supposed to vote for because i'm black. now this year white liberals are trying to tell me who i'm supposed to vote for because i'm christian. brand-new details on the
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. kanye west taking on liberals again when it comes to casting his vote mpl. >vote.>> they were fighting foro have our right to our opinion. not the right to vote for whoever the white liberals said black people are supposed to vote for. the same people that are telling you that you can't have a right to say who you will vote for, those people will be soon to take jesus out of the school. they will be soon to remove jesus. >> david webb, a fox contributor. good to see you. how do you react to kanye. he was in the oval office with the president saying things that the left didn't want to hear sometimes. >> there's even something more important that he says in this
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entire interview. i went through and watched a good amount of it. he said this is a free man talking. that's who we are as a country. the evolution of kanye west is his own evolution, personal evolution. he's speaking his mind the way he feels but he' getting to some principles that are true and need to be discussed. when he contrasted the music that people are put out or the way they talk or act and then they complain as he puts it about criminal justice reform while you're pushing the criminal justice lifestyle. >> with the rap lyrics that are disgusting. >> i'm someone that goes back to the days of working with the former rapper for the get t geto boys. people who lived the lifestyle and grew out of it. a lot have grown out like kanye has done. he's talking to others. he has a platform. he's being responsible saying think for yourself. we don't have to agree with each other.
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the whole idea is we have to stop being told how to think. it's fundamentally who we are as americans. >> he answers critics who say he's turned his back on black culture. i want you to talk about that. >> what a load of you know what. i'll say that just for kanye. you don't turn your back when you demand more freedom and more voices. what he's doing is empowering other to think this way they want. he's not saying think republican or think democrat. he's got a right to be righteously angry about the white liberal elitists who turn around saying you're black and i know what's good for you. it shouldn't be about black and white. it should be i'm a man, he's a man, man or woman you know what's best for you and we want some place where you can go explore that in america. >> he's talking about faith a lot more, holding sunday services in los angeles where he lives, getting pees people of al faiths and races together. it's going to be interesting to
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watch. >> not only is he doing that, think about the black church and black life in america. it's so important that they go to the pulpit. his new pulpit is worldwide and he can open a lot of people's eyes to free thinking. coming up, big plans for the president today. we first heard he would be at game five of the world series after the astros tied it up. we're going to talk about that. but this morning he will address the nation and the death of isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi as we learn new details about the raid that killed him. he's live at the white house at the top of the hour ahead of the president's remarks 9 a.m. eastern time right here on fox.
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series in d.c. last night. >> they whooped them. >> our "fox & friends" cohost was there. the president is expected to be at the game tonight. >> the secret service has been out here doing a sweep inside and outside the park. that's what's happening here. boy, you mentioned it. it was a whooping last night at nationals park. he's take a look at the pitching. this is the story coming out of this game and potentially coming out of the world series itself. jose, you know the name, you should now. this is his story. he was in aaa to start august. that's where he was pitching. called up in september. now the foirt rooki fourth rooke past 40 years to u thou throw a scoreless start in the world series making him the second
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pitch tore do that since jim palmer in 1966. this is not the game that was intended as far as the pitching goes. this is essentially supposed to be -- let's take a look at the other highlights of the game. astros get the early read putting two runs on the board in the first inning and that set the momentum for the game. heading to the six, rbi on the board and that would prove to be the nationals only run of the game. a big disappointment for the nationals, for their fans. in the seventh, a grand slam. this is what we're talking about. that's juan soto. now let's take tight the seventh inning. a grand slam making it 8-1. this was the moment everybody was like, it's over. this is game over. as you know, the series is tied at two games a piece. game five tonight 8:07 p.m. here on fox we'll have you
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covered and then the series heads back to houston. a couple of days ago i was giving a bunch of stats on the world series and three teams in mlb history have come back from the 0-2 deficit losing the games at home and then going on to win. is this how it's going to play out for the astros? the final two games are going to be held in houston. this is not what anyone in washington expected. a lot of disappointed fans here in washington. >> thian keys the yain keys th n time. jillian, great job as always. see you soon. great pitching coming up. >> yes. but on the real big story this morning, brand-new details come in about the raid that
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with no obligation to enroll. or visit us online at aetnamedicare.com/tv. pete: we start this hour with a big fox news alert. the leader of isis confirmed dead, abu bakr al-baghdadi killed in syria after a u.s.-led special forces action. ed: a senior u.s. defense official telling fox a short time ago that the isis leader detonated a suicide vest killing himself as u.s. troops stormed his terrorist compound. jedediah: kevin corp joins us live from the white house as the president prepares to address the nation. >> we do not expect the president to tell us exactly how they were able to find the isis leader whether by human intelligence or communications collection but we do expect him to talk about the successful execution of that particular operation. we've been watching our
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reporting all night long, jennifer griffin, our sources trey yengst and others, this was a tremendous end to the life of an isis leader that had been wanted for quite some time. you may remember that the president had warned that baghdadi could run but not hide. some have referred to him as an accidental leader, others a-would-be leader of a movement that simply won't die with his death but it will certainly be fractured perhaps now more than ever. meanwhile, our partners in the region are claiming that they cooperated with this cooperation cooperation. baghdadi has led isis since 2010 when it was still an al-qaeda offshoot in iraq. the manhunt had a $25 million bounty on his head. he was thought to be hiding somewhere along the iraq-syria border. let me tell you what the turks are saying about it. prior to the u.s. operation in the offensive of syria last night information exchange and coordination between the military authorities of both countries took place. the kurds are also weighing in. they say this online: successful
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and historical operation due to a joint intelligence work with the united states of america. as ed pointed out, we anticipate hearing from the president around 9 a.m. this morning. we continue to get more information not just about how this operation was carried out but also who was involved, american forces, delta forces in particular. for now, back to you. ed: we take a step back, you've been covering the story for a week or so now about the president's decision to fulfill a campaign process saying i'm going to take most or all of u.s. troops out of syria. there's been some pushback on that in small peters and he's decided to keep at least a small force on the ground to protect the oil fields in eastern syria among other important responsibilities but talking about the incoming there at the white house and maybe the sense of relief they have this morning that maybe the president's policy is being vindicated. >> this is exactly, ed, you're right on the money, this is
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exactly what a white house source said to me previous to this operation. the idea is simply this: we have poured billions into this region literally billions into iraq and syria since 2014. i reached out to our sources here, and they say it was around 25, some estimates upwards of $50 billion since 2014. the idea the president has made clear: we needn't spend our blood and treasure when we have people on the ground who are most impacted by those particular groups and that seems to have vindicated by this particular operation. it will be interesting to see how much he has to say about that, guys, coming up at 9 a.m. pete: kevin, real briefly, do you have a sense of how long that has been in the making? is this something had a happened quickly or had they known about his -- al-baghdadi's wear about his for a while? >> we do know that. that's for certain. and i think jennifer griffin with her sources may be better to answer this question. but i can tell you certainly from the political perspective this is something that has been in the works for quite some time
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because from the white house's point of view you want to make certain that this is part and parcel to our mission, which is let's root out terrorism, not be the police force for the world. and this is something that has cost us billions if not trillions of dollars over the last several years. so this very specific, targeted, coordinated operation is precisely what this white house has had in mind for quite some time, guys. ed: a big morning indeed. that's why we've got some of our best, kevin cork at the white house, jennifer griffin at the pentagon along with lucas tomlinson. in the meantime, we're trying to dig a little deeper on exactly what al-baghdadi.is jedediah: let's take a look at that. according to sources high value isis target he was, wanted an $25 million bounty. purported audio recording last september. he was last seen in video in april of 2019 and he spent time in the united states custody after being captured by u.s. forces in iraq in 2005. i'm really president when the president speaks to hereafter him talk about his larger strategy with respect to syria.
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we have seen so much criticism in the last few weeks not only from democrats, which is to be expected, but from republicans. i think rand paul was the only republican at one point that came forward and actually defended the president's decision. maybe there was some intel that he had -- i don't know -- on what was going on behind the scenes. but it's really interesting when these things play out, it just showcases how little we really know on what goes on behind closed doors. i'm curious whether he will talk about his larger strategy, how long they had this information, which u.s. forces were specifically involved and if any other leadership in isis was taken out or what we can expect moving forward. pete: in some ways al-baghdadi is the story of iraq and syria. this is the guy who after the invasion? 2003 was part of the insurgency. he was originally from sam mara, the town that i served in. his name was al-mara. he was in camp buka which was a hotbed of radical information, where insurgents gathered and re
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reradicalized. when he was released then america pulled back. after the surge was successful, he took advantage of that then you saw the rise of isis and he moved into syria. you heard kevin refer to him as accidental. not particularly smart, not particularly a good public speaker. when we saw that video in the mosque with the fan behind him that's where the caliphate emerged and he said we are making a country based on an islamic state and the brutality we saw in the weeks and months and years after that only to be eradicated after president trump got elected and said we're not going to treat you like the j.v. team any more, and he did, the physical caliphate destroyed. the detrimental effect to the psychology of islamists who believe they should be winning is massive today. al-baghdadi is their leader. you couldn't find him. they found him. ultimately he died like the coward he was, blowing himself up rather than shooting back, and 50 to 70 heroes, think about
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that last night, 5070 heroes, americans came in in six blackhawks into the middle of the night into a terrorist compound. ed: and talking about those men and women in uniform who serve bravely for us every single day. as we've been noting this is a victory for president trump the commander-in-chief no doubt but also the men and women on the ground every day they've been in the middle of this, as politics flying around in washington, democrats and republicans criticizing the policy. rebecca heinrichs was on earlier earlier. she said the bolts this is a huge blow to the caliphate. >> what isis does is, if they can keep their leaders hidden so that the united states can't find them and then they occasionally pop up a leader to do a video, they use it for p.r. they use it for propaganda to say look, even the world's superpower, the united states, can't find our leaders. but if the united states can take out somebody like baghdadi, it's a huge -- it's very demoralizing for isis, and it does put a big dent in their
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operations. if we can take out the physical caliphate and also take out their leadership, the last little bits of leadership, that is a huge victory for the united states and our allies. jedediah: it will be painted in the media and also by democrats by the likes of joe biden and others who are going to be forced to talk about foreign policy in these upcoming debates debates. will they give the president due to credit for this foreign policy accomplishment? this is obviously something regardless of where you stand on the political spectrum if you're rooting for your country and your military you are rooting for your president on these issues. we'll see where that falls in line. we also spoke to devin nunes, republican, ranking member of the house intel committee on this issue, and we asked him what could be happening next. listen to what he had to say. >> a lot of this dealing with the situation in the middle east it ebbs and flows, and there is no genius because we haven't been able to solve this for hundreds and hundreds of years. so baghdadi, if in fact he's killed, which all indications are, is true, you know, next on
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the list would be zawahiri, you know, which he's been elusive now since 2011 since bin laden was called. pete: it's not over just because one guy thankfully was killed. ed: zawahiri is an al-qaeda leader. let's bring in joey jones, fox news contributor, served this country as well, retired marine, bomb technician. good morning to you, joey. >> good morning, guys. ed: what is your immediate reaction to all this as we wait to hear from the president at the top of the next hour? >> it's important on to point out here it brings the two political sides together on a mission today. we've spent a few weeks now having establishment republicans the democrats condemn the president, criticize the president over his strategy, and the president continued to say we're not a police force, and now while they're saying, well, we're not asking for a police force, we're saying leave a contingent for small operations, the president is saying, well, that's exactly what i'm doing. so i think a lot of the communication from the white
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house, a lot of the criticism from congress can be confided today and we can know that we killed one of our enemies, and this is a sign to the world that if you come after us or come after the free world it will take a year or two, but we will come after you and kill you. much bin laden, i don't know that al-al-baghdadi was calling the shots at the time he was killed, but whoever takes over knows that will be their fate as well. pete: joey, reports are we de deconflicted with russia. some of the you are a space they had control over. turkey had no role in this. the kurds we're hearing were involved, although we heard so much about we're turning our backs on them. the dynamics of that based on this raid, your take? >> we have to believe that the kurds had their own personal interest in having this person taken off the map and having isis eventually taken out now. the kurds are in a bad place right now. no one believes that isn't true. at the same time this war started because something like isis came to be and the kurds didn't have much choice but to fight it to begin with.
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so to have partners like this throughout this fight has been an incredibly positive thing. hopefully after they we can continue those relations. the white house has said the fate of the kurds i think isn't a hundred percent up to us and that's hard for americans to believe or realize or to see actualized, but to have those partners and to go after al- al-al-baghdadi today or last night is really important for our mission. i think most importantly it shows the u.s. military that has been fighting over there that doesn't know from one day to the next if they're going to be there or be pulled back or go somewhere else, there is a mission at hand and last night they accomplished a big part of that. jedediah: you just referenced the military we still have troops in eastern syria. speak a little bit about when something like this happens, the death of somebody like al- al-baghdadi, what sentiment goes through the troops over there who are fighting hard who really don't know day to day right now what their mission is going to be. does it provide some clarity? >> i don't know that it honestly provides clarity. i think it provides a sense of
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accomplishment in the sense that we still have a mission and we're fighting it. i covered this in d.c. but i had friends in afghanistan during that time; so we knew and understood, hey, listen, killing osama bin laden today is not going to change really what the taliban's doing, but it will send a ripple throughout the taliban that we will go find you and kill you regardless of who you are or where you're going. and i think that much the same is being said today throughout our military that listen, whatever sacrifice we perform, even though people back home are yo-yoing every week or whether they want us here or don't want us here or thank you for your service at the airport is genuine or not, we know we're here for a reason and tonight is one of those reasons. ed: joey jones, we appreciate your insights this morning. president trump addressing the nation again live 9 a.m. eastern time, the top of the next hour will be all over it and i want to make sure we give credit the raid led by u.s. special
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operations forces, army delta force as well as the 75th army angry regenerate. pete: when you lose your physical caliphate and you lose your leader, it doesn't mean it's over but you're in a really bad spot and we've gone on the offensive. good news this morning. we've got more on our top story as we've been mentioning, the leader of isis confirmed dead in the military raid that led to his death, as ed pointed out. an update minutes away. ed: and another big story we're following all morning long. thousands forced to evacuate, millions left in the dark, wildfires in california coming up next. i wish i could save faster. you're making good choices. you'll get there. ♪ were you going to tell me about this? i know i can't afford to go. i still have this car so you can afford to go.
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who shot up a college homecoming party overnight. at least two people are dead and 14 are hurt at the off campus party near texas a&m university in commerce. university police say there is no active shooter threat on campus. pete: and in california raging wildfires fueled by historic winds forcing about 90,000 people out of their homes. ed: the state's largest utility company cutting off power to nearly two million people to prevent downed lines from sparking even more powers. jedediah: christina coleman is live in southern california with the latest on the situation there. christina, good morning. >> good morning. well, even though some southern california residents returned home to damage like this, this burned-out car, the tik fire in southern california is under control for now. now, it's a different story in northern california where there's mandatory evacuations have just been expanded. they expanded overnight from 50,000 to 90,000 residents because of the kincaid fire in seasonoma county.
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that fire has burned 26,000 acres and it's only 11% contained. >> if you receive an evacuation notice, you need to get out now. >> evacuations are not suggestions. if you are in an evacuation zone you're in the path of danger. if you are in an evacuation zone there is an imminent threat to you and your property. material goods are not more important than your life. >> execs for utility company pg&e said one of the utility towers malfunctioned just before the fire started. the cause of that fire is under investigation. wind gusts are reaching 90 miles per hour in that region. they cut off power to 140,000 customers yesterday and those outages could affect two million people. meanwhile, the tik fire in southern california in santa clarita is more contained, three firefighters were injured, but
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it's unclear the extent of their injuries and exactly what happened. the good news is that crews have been able to stop this fire from spreading. but here in southern california those strong winds still a concern tonight. so firefighters are going to continue to monitor them closely closely. back to .ou ed: christina coleman reporting on the ground. the president set to speak at the white house just a few moments from now as we learn new details about the raid that killed abu bakr al-baghdadi our team coverage continues throughout the morning. jedediah: plus a new documentary is sounding the alarm about the fight for free speech. dennis prager created it and he joins us next. >> creating an atmosphere of fear and repression, it's going to bust. >> makes it difficult to learn from other people. >> the type of diversity they hate is diversity of thought. y ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪ philadelphia cream cheese. made with fresh milk and real cream makes your recipes their holiday favourites. the holidays are made with philly.
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♪ pete: just to quick headlines. three of the suspects arrested in connection with the gruesome discovery of 39 people in the back of a semi-truck are now out on bail. the bodies found inside a shipping container in england are believed to be connected to a human trafficking ring. the victims are believed to be from asia. the suspected driver of the truck is now in custody. and we've got a live look in hong kong this morning where tensions are high between police and protesters. earlier the streets filled with flames as demonstrations entered their 21st weekend. the months-long movement now aimed at holding police accountable in addition to standing for freedom. officers using tear gas against the courageous protesters. a brand-new documentary "no safe spaces" shedding light on the growing loss of free speech on college campuses.
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>> anything you say will be used against you. >> there's no free speech for fascists. >> the posts by facebook, twitter, and social media will be used to shame you. anything you say that we don't like will be used to shut you u. jedediah: radio talk show host and founder of prager u. dennis prager joins us. dennis, welcome to the show. >> hi. good to be with you even though it's a bit early here. jedediah: let me tell you, i'm really excited as someone who's taught on college campuses, taught in high schools, i see the trouble that's happening in academia over time. why should people go see this film? >> i believe that the greatest -- the greatest danger confronting america today is not coming from abroad, but it's domestic. and it's specifically related to liberty, and specifically free speech. this is the first time in american history we've had
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terrible crises -- a civil war and the depression and much more more. but we have never had faced the danger to free speech like we are now. do you know there is a poll just released reported last week that about half of millennials and in fact almost half of americans believe that the first amendment should be changed, that there should be a ban on hate speech, which means no free speech, because what you consider hate speech i may not consider and vice-versa. when i was a kid, i'll never forget this, nazis applied to march in the jewish neighborhood of skokie, illinois, 'cause there were a lot of holocaust survivors there and it was a particularly crew thing, obviously, swastikas in front of holocaust survivors. jewish organizations, liberal organizations, conservative organizations were almost unanimous in saying even the nazis have a right to
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demonstrate in a jewish holocaust survivor neighborhood because in america there is something called free speech, and it's sacrosanct. it is being demolished on our campuses. it's going from campuses outside of campuses, and this movie is a wake-up call. jedediah: now, we have some -- >> i only had one further -- go ahead. jedediah: i just to want get to some clips from the film to you can talk about them. we have from the film some examples of attacks on free speech that are happening. let's take a look at that and we'll talk about it. >> you are not listening. i want your job to be taken from you. >> a protest has turned violent in california berkeley. >> creating an atmosphere of fear and repression, and it's going to bust. >> makes it difficult for you to learn from other people. >> type of diversity that they hate is diversity of thought. >> you're not going to protect people and so the best you can do is to make them strong. jedediah: you know, dennis that's a great point. everyone talks about the importance of diversity, but diversity of thought and the
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importance of that is getting lost. >> entirely. i mean, diversity, all other diversities are ephemeral. they're superficial. who cares what color you are in? in this regard i'm a completely traditional liberal. your color means nothing. god created the human being. we have no idea if that first human, whether you believe in the story or not, the whole point was, has no color. we're all human beings. we're all children of god. that diversity is irrelevant. the diversity of ideas is what makes a society function. jedediah: dennis, you also partnered with adam carolla, the comedian, which i think is important because there's been much talk about the death of comedy because everyone is offended all the time. let's hear from him on the need for free speech. >> you should be able to share ideas without fear of being fired from your job or shouted
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down. the only way we separate the good ideas from the bad ideas is to be able to say whatever we want about t.em jedediah: your reaction? we have about 30 seconds. >> well, adam and i are the so to speak stars. i don't quite consider myself a star, but we're the focal points of the movie, and he's a joy to be with. he is completely insightful. and i'd just like to note -- this is critically important to note -- this opening this past weekend, this very weekend in phoenix is the greatest one-day, first-day opening of a documentary, the second greatest in american history in one day, in one city. so we have hope that people are aware of how important the film is and how important the subject is. people should go to nosafespaces nosafespaces.com and find out where they can see it. i promise you it will shake you
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up . jedediah: thanks, dennis, for telling us about this. an army first lieutenant sentenced to prison for killing three afghans, now a new documentary is examining his case. >> he was the hardest working soldier that ever worked for me. >> the military justice system can be manipulated. >> he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. jedediah: that soldier's lawyer is here to react next. plus, new details coming in about these special operation forces that killed the leader of isis. our coverage continues right after the break. t friends. you just saved a bunch of money by switching your boat insurance to geico. it was easy. folks, can it get any better than this? is that what i think it is? that is an armada of tiny sushi boats. awesome! i forgot to pack lunch. you had one job... chopsticks wasabi and soy! comin' in a little hot. it only gets better when you switch and save with geico.
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ed: we are back with a fox news alert. isis leader abu ghraib is dead. jedediah: military sources confirming that to our jennifer griffin this morning. a defense official says al- al-baghdadi blew himself up with a suicide vest when special ops forces stormed his terrorist compound. pete: following closely from our middle eastern bureau in jerusalem is. trey, this morning. >> military sources are confirming to fox news that the leader of the islamic state, abu bakr al-baghdadi, is dead. he was killed overnight in a ray in northwestern syria. biometric facial recognition was used to confirm his identity as president trump is scheduled to address the nation in just about 30 minutes. sources say 50 to 70 u.s. members -- these are special forces operations from the u.s. army delta force and the rangers assisted in the raid and six
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helicopters were used. al-baghdadi detonated a suicide vest. blood strewn clothing and rubble at a site where they say the attack occurred. he was extremely dangerous as residents in the area have surface-to-air missiles and rpgs rpgs. only russia was given advanced notice on a deconfliction line. kurdish forces still fighting syrian forces are taking credit some of the intelligence that led to this operation. the death of al-baghdadi is a symbolic blow to the islamic state. it is important to note amid all of this information we are receiving today the president will be addressing the nation in about 30 minutes and isis is not completely destroyed in the middle east, but again a major blow to the islamic state. the ideology behind isis still alive and well, though. back to .ou ed: great work from trey and jennifer griffin who was mentioned a moment ago.
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she was active throughout the night and confirmed early on that in fact al-baghdadi was dead. pete: we'll stay on the topic of killing radical islamic terrorists. you did it the case of army first lieutenant clint lorance who was fighting the war on terror when he ordered his platoon to fire at three afghan men who were approaching on a motorcycle and they were on a patrol. now he's serving a 19-year sentence in leavenworth after being convicted of two counts of murder on the battlefield. in a new docu-series. >> i was dreaming of the time when i would become a platoon leader. >> the military system can be manipulated. >> clinton was in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> my job to get the guys back home safe. >> clint lorance's version of events are a lie. >> an illegal order. >> army's scapegoat. >> was this someone who sought to do what was right or is this someone who just disregarded
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procedures? pete: you hear from clinton himself in the film. so is this new series an accurate portrayal of the case? joining us now is jamie lorance, clinton's first cousin and don brown, a member of lorance's legal team and the author of the book "travis of justice: the shocking prosecution of lieutenant clint lorance." donald, we'll start with you. this five-part series on starz about clint's case is it accurate? >> partially. it's designed to create controversy. if you want to read a review, the new york times had a good review, says it doesn't give any answers. the documentary does have good things. pay attention to the leading biometrics expert. the army hid evidence that clint killed taliban bomb makers and so the documentary does good there. pete: i'm holding a report right here which you got released through foia which shows that the bomb makers that clinton's
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-- the guys that clint's platoon killed were bomb makers. >> absolutely. the government held that from the defense team, colonel maher who led or defense female found that out. then they coughed it up. what you're holding is red hot evidence that clint lorance killed the enemy and seven years on a 19 year president and we're respectfully calling on president trump to bring him home before veterans day, do the right thing, as you just pointed out, al-baghdadi was killed, al-baghdadi's been killed today, and clint lorance went to kill guys like that, all he did was protect his man from keeping them from going home in body bags, it's time to put an end to it, pete. pete: jamie, he raises the point this morning we had the great news that al-baghdadi is dead because men who we asked to go serve in a foreign land were willing to go kill him. your cousin did the same thing,
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led a platoon in afghanistan, there's a common tactic of the enemy, approach your patrol on a motorcycle. they can be a suicide bomber, who knows. in this case we have the evidence now that they were members of the taliban and bomb makers. yet he's in prison at leavenworth. your response? >> i would really like to call upon president trump to just take a look at this case, look at all the facts, and let him free. he would happy go back and fight again. he is not turning his back on -- he wants to do the right thing, and he wants to help his country just like he's already done. i would really like for president trump to look at it himself and make the decision himself because if he sees all the evidence, you can't turn an eye to that. pete: as we've had learn whether this case or eddie gallagher or matt goldstein which is ongoing, the military justice system can and will be manipulated by prosecutors who want to put our guys behind bars and they'll hide evidence to -- evidence that would set someone like clint free.
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>> it's become corrupt. this case is not even a close call. it's a slam dunk defense win. we should not be prosecuting warriors who kill the enemy. clint lorance we prepared the paperwork for the president to sign, 15 seconds of the president's time and this travesty of justice can end but we can't be prosecuting our war fighters. president trump on the fourth of july asked for young men and women to come into the military. mr. president, you got to have their backs. you can't let them be prosecuted for killing the enemy. now is the time to do a great act of righteousness and end this and once you got clint out of president stop this against matt goldstein too. this travesty should end today. pete: this documentary shows that and new information i got on matt goldstein's case what they're doing to him to hide evidence, it's unbelievable. here's another clip from the trailer of the film "leavenworth "leavenworth." watch. >> when i saw them i went into this panic. these were bomb makers. there's bay hundred different
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versions of what happened. >> there were political influences in the army and there might have been a rush to judgment. >> this kind of war puts people into situations where there's no right answer. >> these can be life-or-death calls with consequences for either decision that you make. pete: jimmy, when viewers hear from clint himself, what are they going to hear? >> they're going to hear a true american hero. he will let them know that he will have their back, he will fight for them. he 100 percent believes that he made the right call that day and he will stand behind that. pete: he made a split second call against an enemy, and, don, last word -- >> she's right. it's not even a close call. it had been done. he would make that call again. less than 15 seconds he had to make the decision to keep his men out of body bags, he opened fire and the army prosecuted to protect obama's rules of engagement which put the taliban ahead of american soldiers and we must end it now. pete: jamie, don, thank you very much for your time.
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ed, over to .ou ed: to headlines. the f.b.i. joining the massive serf for a missing teen in northern virginia. 14-year-old isabel hicks vanishing frommer had home early monday morning. authorities believe she was taken by this man, 33-year-old bruce lynch. there was a felony abduction warrant out for his arrest. he is considered armed and dangerous. police believe they may have left the state in this silver blue toyota matrix so be on the lookout. they could be staying in camping areas. that from law enforcement. and out on the trail senator kamala harris speaking at a criminal justice forum after dropping out of the forum just hours earlier. the 2020 hopeful refused to attend the bipartisan justice center's event in south carolina initially after the group honored president trump for his work on the first step act. she then reversed course when the group was removed as a sponsor. watch. >> donald trump, to be receiving
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an award for criminal justice reform is an affront to the very issue and the work that has gone into it and the work yet to do. and because today i was asked to participate in a different event i am participating. nothing has changed about my perspective. nothing has changed about my approach to this. ed: nothing has changed, she says. seemed like it changed but, anyway, senator harris is one of ten 2020 democrats attending that forum. a suspected truck driver crashes his pickup truck through a gas station and after yanking his license plates off the driver strolls out of the store like nothing ever happened. guess what, there was video, bro bro. he was later caught by michigan deputies. he's now facing multiple charges and has been ordered, yes, to never return to that gas station again. all right. ex-f.b.i. director james comey is not sweating over the d.o.j. d.o.j.'s russia probe becoming a criminal investigation. at least that's what he claims. >> i'm not worried about a
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single thing in connection with any of the matters under investigation. i'm confident that when the american people see the picture of why we did what we did, their confidence in the institution will be maintained, restored, and protected. ed: the justice department is looking into the origins of the f.b.i.'s probe of the trump campaign. of course there's a criminal probe as well. comey praised lead investigator john durham who's conducting that criminal probe as a, quote, unquote, excellent prosecutor but warned him to make the probe transparent to, quote, unquote, protect his reputation from those in leadership. pete: transparent just like what schiff is doing? ed: yeah. interesting also that he's telling the prosecutor what he should do. i think maybe the prosecutor's going to have other ideas. jedediah: and he's saying he's not worried. sure. sure. ed: we're just a few minutes aware of the president. pete: the leader ofizes confirmed dead as we learn what happened inside the compound in the raid that led to his death. we're live with brand-new details coming up. jedediah: and another story we're following overnight. two people shot and killed at a homecoming party near texas a&m
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when bipolar i overwhelms, vraylar helps smooth the ups and downs. pete: fox news alert. this morning police still at the scene where overnight two people shot and killed and more than a dozen injured at a homecoming party near texas a&m univers.ty ed: outnumbered cohost harris faulkner is gracing us with her presence today because she is hosting a town hall tonight in prime time in the dangers facing law enforcement. >> so great to see you. congratulations. this is so excit.ng jedediah: any day now. >> you know, there is never a time that police officers get to put their guard down. and we'll talk a little about that tonight, but when we awakened this morning, some of you earlier than i and you see the news coming together still, i think it was four hours ago that the texas a&m commerce
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university police department tweeted out that the active shooter situation had subsided but they were dealing with with quite the scene of injur.es ed: and there was video on social media that was just terrifying of the aftermath of this -- >> it's graphic. ed: it happens too much. >> yeah. it's graphic. in fact, there were a lot of graphic warnings where you click on video to open it this morning morning. so, you know, we think about the people there in greenville, a suburb of dallas, texas. many of those people, they weren't sure at first how many involved were students. it was not a sanctionsed by the university event so it was separate from that but nearby, nearby enough that there would have been likely a lot of young people there in that venue. so i say all of that because now you've got a middle-of-the-night call for police officers, they're rolling up, they're called upon to do whatever is needed at that scene. it is why they are among those who wear that title and that badge of honor of first responder. i consider our military members part of that, too, pete, like
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yourself. pete: you come from that backed, from a military family. jedediah: right. pete: you appreciate and understand service and stepping up. so the idea of this town hall, what do you want, what are you hoping viewers get out of hearing from law enforcement? >> i love the connection point that you just made because my interest lies in those who serve and make the decision to go into danger no matter what. when my dad came back from vietnam, he was spat upon. when he left this country, it was civil unrest, civil rights unrest i should say. but he still loved it so much he said, "it doesn't matter. america is the greatest nation on earth. we'll get through this. i want to serve. and i want to serve even when people are mad at me. they have free speech." i saw that segment this morning. it was excellent. so you look at all of that, and our home team, if you will, not the one we're sending abroad to protect democracy and the way we live america and let other people touch freedom, but our home team is our law enforcement enforcement. and so when they're out dooring their jobs, they're a microcosm of greater society.
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there may be some challenges there with certain personalities or certain persons but of the estimated 790,000 of them, wow, that's a lot of people to protect and serve. but they're still outnumbered by everybody else. so when you saw what we saw this summer, buckets of things being thrown on police officers right here in new york city, some of those same people, though, might want to call 911 when something goes wrong. i really want to dig into what's driving one thing that's happening across the country, one thread, and that is rise in suicide rates among our police officers. that cannot happen. so we have a lot going into this town hall tonight. a lot of big issues. i'm excited to be here this morning to talk with all of you about it. jedediah: so glad you're doing this. so many people have felt that law enforcement has been under such attack throughout the country so so many will also be looking forward to hearing it. jedediah:. >> p8: there's video of it. jedediah, you're right -- ed: check it out, 8:50 p.m. the
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ed: good morning. we are back with this fox news alert. we've been on all morning. the leader of isis confirmed dead. abu bakr al-baghdadi killed in syria after a u.s.-led special forces operation. jedediah: a defense official tell fox news the isis leader detonated a suicide vest, killing himself as troops stormed his terrorist compound. pete: jennifer griffin has been working her sources overnight and joins us live in washington as we ahate the president's address to the nation, expected any minute now. jennifer, good morning. >> good morning. senior u.s. military sources confirmed to me overnight the
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u.s. military has confirmed isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi is dead, killed in a high-risk u.s. special operations raid in idlib province in northwest syria where he was hiding in a compound. baghdadi's identity was confirmed through biometric means, i'm told. the confirmation came from a senior american military source. i'm told 50 to 70 american special operators were involved in the raid, including u.s. army delta force and members of the 75th army ranger regiment, about six special operations helicopters were involved in the raid. it was a partnered mission, a u.s. official tells me. baghdadi was killed when he detonated a suicide vest. biometrics, facial recognition immediately identified the isis leader whose caliphate has been destroyed. typically in a suicide bombing the head of the bomber is removed intact. dna was also used to identify baghdadi which takes up to a day for those results. u.s. forces launched from a base in irbil, iraq.
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there had been reports of sightings of baghdadi in id lid for some time according to my source. general maslum, the kurd urban leader of the syrian forces, said, "quote successful and successful operation due to a joint intelligence work with the united states of america. kurds have always been good partners according to a military source. idlib province in northwest syria say terrorist stronghold. isis and al-qaeda have been rivals for years so it's somewhat surprising that baghdadi would hide there. the compound raided by u.s. special operations forces is in barisha, a town only three miles from the turkish border. no u.s. special operations forces were hurt or killed in this raid to kill the isis leader, abu bakr al-baghdadi. back to .ou ed: jennifer, remarkable mission obviously, for the u.s. military military. you've done a remarkable job of covering this story. we want to continue that this morning. i wonder if i can ask you the big picture here, 'cause you've been all over this the last week
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or so, not just overnight in terms of the policy shift from the president. there's critics on the left and the right about it. on one hand no doubt as the president speaks at the top of the hour he will want to get some sense of vindication amid all of the criticism. on the other hand, is this a reminder when the special operations forces in the region take down a terror leader like this, is this a reminder to the commander-in-chief about the necessity to keep some u.s. forces in the region? >> i think that's really the lesson here. it's a lesson that was learned during the obama administration when they tried to pull all u.s. forces out of iraq. you lose your ability to share intelligence. you lose the basing that allows for quick action to respond to intelligence. so as we reported, those forces launched from irbil, iraq. if they are forced to leave iraq it is much harder and much harder to share real-time intelligence and act on that intelligence. so i think that is really the lesson of this.
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the u.s. special operations raid high risk, based on very pinpointed intelligence. but it has to be done like clockwork. and having those bases in the region, having the foothold inside syria as well as inside iraq, these the reason these small units can do what they did overnight. pete: jennifer, you say it right high risk. it's precisely what it is. in this case, thank god, successful. ultimately, do you have any sense of the calculation between doing a high risk raid versus a couple of 500-pound bombs which would be another option in a situation like this? >> well, the reason that the u.s. military opts for a high risk raid like this is they want confirmation. it's no good to say we think we bombed a building where we think baghdadi was. that's not the kind -- so they took huge risks by sending u.s. american forces into syria to carry out the mission, but they do that in a case with a bin laden or a baghdadi where it is very important in terms of crushing the will of isis and
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al-qaeda. they want to have dna evidence. they want to know for sure because certainly in the past there have been reports that baghdadi was killed, and those reports proved to be wrong. in this case, they say that their biometrics and the dna taken from the individual who detonated that bomb were in fact baghdadi, and that is helpful in jedediah: jenny jennifer in light of these new developments do you expect to hear any changes with what might be happening for american troops in syria? >> i think we've already heard and confirmed that the president has adjusted his plan to withdraw all troops from syria, and in fact he has agreed to keep some u.s. forces down in the south of syria, and that's to counter iran and then sending forces to secure the oil fields in the east.
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ed: jennifer we want you to stand by. we're just getting words from the white house. we're getting word the president 's remarks will start at roughly 9:10 a.m. eastern time. i want to reset things and in the moment here is a fox news alert. the president speaking at the white house, and formally announcing the death of isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi. jedediah: military sources confirming that a defense adding he detonated a suicide vest killing a special ops forces. pete: we have team coverage following this breaking news jennifer griffin is live in our bureau and jennifer we'll go back to you this morning. it's great news to americans waking up to this, the last thing that al-baghdadi heard were the blackhawk helicopters and the thump of boots before he cowardly blew himself up. how significant is this raid? >> well it's extremely significant in terms of
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psychologically, in terms of the propaganda value, it will the message that it will send to isis fighters whatever isis fighters remain, remember there's still 10,000 or so inside those prisons being guarded by kurdish forces so this is an extremely important victory in terms of propaganda victory. it's not clear how much role baghdadi really had in terms of the isis fighters who were out plotting more attacks, but he had not been seen since, in several years, and then he's put out an audio tape back in september but again, any time you kill a top leader, the head of the snake if you will of these organizations, it is a blow to the morale and to the recruiting efforts of these group, so the timing could not have been more important. what is still unusual and a question that we don't have answered is what is the relationship now between isis and those al qaeda-linked groups up in northwest syria?
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they had been rivals in the past they had been wanting to kill each other as much as they wanted to carry out attacks against westerners. is there some sort of marriage of convenience taking place with reports that the u.s. is pulling back from that border and repositioning repositioning. ed: real quick to follow-up about your analogy about the snake in this case, al-baghdadi. i remember covering president obama when he came out sunday evening and surprised the nation with the news that osama bin laden had been killed and there was talk then about how yes you can kill the leader but they can reconstitute themselves and here we are several years later still talking about the al qaeda leader we're still trying to track down maybe they aren't as strong as they were back in 201l around. talk about isis and keeping our eye on the ball even as we take down their leader. >> well i think the best analogy is that isis, quality these groups are like cancer. they spread, they metastasize, they have cells in other
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countries. isis is not only in syria. so killing the leader of isis, while significant, is still does not mean that isis cells in north africa, in libya, in afghanistan are not still plotting attacks and that is why it is so important according to the u.s. military and from the u.s. military point of view to be based overseas, to have those bases close to these cells so that they can react and that they can keep them down if they are forced to respond from the united states, it's going to be a lot longer flight and a lot more difficult to react with realtime intelligence. jedediah: the president has faced so much criticism not only those from within the democratic party very few republicans coming to his defense on his syrian strategy. how aggressive or assertive do you think he will be in terms of vindicating his strategy in light of his events when we hear from him in about 10 minutes? >> i think what you'll hear is
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you'll hear praise for the u.s. military and the special operators who carried out this incredible high risk operation. the president is the commander-in-chief and he gets to, he is going to certainly praise those military leaders who carried out this as well as the intel community that provided the intelligence for this operation. ed: jennifer we want to give you a chance to go back to working your sources which you've done an amazing job all evening long of so you can help break this story confirming first that al-baghdadi was in fact dead so we'll get back to jennifer and the president don't forget is coming out in just about six minutes or so. stay with us fox is all over that in the meantime i want to bring in rebecca high rick and she is of course the hudson institute foreign policy advisor to the house armed services committee. rebecca welcome to you about the significance of this takedown. what do you expect to hear from the president in a few moments? >> i expect him to praise our military. this was a high risk operation.
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we had over 50 u.s. military men and women possibly risking their lives to go in and actually have verification confirmation that we actually got the kill, that baghdadi was actually kill in the operation. i expect him to praise our allies who helped us in this, and to make a larger case for a strategy that no matter what all of the political controversy, or criticisms of him that he will always put u.s. security first and that's ultimately what this is about. it's an american victory. pete: rebecca you touch on american strategy. is this evidence that we can pull more troops out and the situation should be held by folks on the ground or is this, does this go to the case that we need to keep a footprint in order to stay closer? >> we would not have been able to conduct this operation if we did not have basing in the region to actually get the men on the ground quickly and to take this intelligence that we
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got in cooperation with our partners, and allies in the region from the kurds possibly from the iraqi government and take that intelligence and then move on it and actually get in there and get the kill, so i think that this is a small, again this was we have a small footprint in syria. it's getting a little bit larger as the president adapts his strategy to things that are happening on the ground to his credit so i think that the lesson here ultimately is that we can't completely get out of the region unfortunately even if we can do it with a smaller presence. jedediah: what details are you hoping to hear from the president in terms of clarity not only about the raid itself but about the implications of that raid at this point? >> i'd like to hear about other leaders we're possibly worried about, significance of what baghdadi was actually doing that actually gave oxygen to isis. remember, isis was operating on multiple continents and so this had a global reach. this man, baghdadi who we are able to just take out was
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extremely significant for isis, for coming up with ideas for how to recruit and so i'd like to hear more from the president about what we expected to do in terms of isis's overall operation. i don't think anybody's naive to think that this means that we're done with the threat from islamist radicals. quality is still alive and well of course, but isis is still existing but this is a major blow to isis taking out the physical caliphate and then taking out one of its major, its major leader. ed: you can see the podium there at the white house, diplomatic reception room where we expect the president of the united states in just a couple moments pointing out this major takedown in the war on terror. remember this is a president, rebecca, who for a week or so has taken a lot of criticism not just from democrats but republicans like mitt romney who have claimed that the president 's move to bring u.s. troops home from syria would be in the words of romney, a stain on america, american history. what do you think some of the critics are thinking this morning?
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>> well i hope that today is a day in which we can today politics aside. this is an american victory regardless of what anybody think s about president trump's overall strategy or the way he's caring out his strategy. he is the commander-in-chief and the one that authorized this operation just like president obama was the one who authorized the operation to go in and ghetto sam a bin laden so i think this is an american victory. i hope, of course i'm not optimistic of that but that the political nining needs to be set aside and i hope that the president gives all the credit to the men who are actually the ones putting their lives on the line and this is a good day for america to have baghdadi gone. jedediah: i would love to say that i'm optimistic that will happen but as we head into 2020 when foreign policy and national security is at the forefront, democratic candidates will be asked about this, the media has already by and large in many parts weighed in and said the president's foreign policy is a disaster as a result of his decisions in syria so i'm not as optimistic it will go that route but i think it's great you think that could happen and it's true, because we
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are all americans and when it's a victory for america it's a victory for our president we should all be standing behind that. >> well and it's also important to remember that this is in the middle of this firestorm in which president trump is getting pressure from all sides from his base to get out of the region and once he made the decision to get out of the region, he had to make the difficult decision to kind of adapt and to go back and say wait a second we're not going to totally get out of syria and we'll have to protect those oil fields and we'll still have to move troops to iraq and work with the iraqi government to make sure they can continue to host u.s. forces so president trump does deserve credit for even whenever he might decide okay maybe i didn't go about this the best way possible based on the facts on the ground i'm going to adapt and that's to his great credit. pete: we're looking at the live shot at the podium where the president will speak in just moments and we see the army flag , marine corps flag, navy and air force flag behind him obviously speak to the military piece. you're there, there's questions politically about the mission, does it stay or go and their
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commitment in moments like this? >> isn't it amazing they are just unwavering and they are a rock and regardless of what happens politically, they are holding the line, they are continuing to do their work overseas. they're away from their families and they're prepared to sacrifice their lives to make sure that the head of isis is dead, and so this is just another day to remember all of those who have given their lives we've lost eight service members just in syria. we've lost countless more in iraq and afghanistan and the region taking out those who would do harm to americans if they could get here. ed: and to underline your point, u.s. military did not just take out this terrorist leader. our own lucas tomlinson saying he's looked at the video closely it appears military just blew up the compound where al-baghdadi was after the raid. again, rebecca to your point to make sure we're not just going after the head of the snake which was jennifer griffin was saying but going after the whole
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snake. >> it's even smarter than that going after the whole snake but also making sure that there isn't propaganda left over to make sure that isis foot soldiers can't come in and make a memorial out of that building because of the loss of their leader, so we're going to the heart of the propaganda effort. i remember when president trump gave that speech in the middle east, i believe it was in saudi arabia whenever he talked about his anti-isis and islamic radicalism campaign and he said we're going to drive them out so you have to hit at the propaganda effort, at the ideology and so taking out that whole building is part of that strategy. pete: rebecca thank you very much for your insights we appreciate it . we'll bring in more insight from don bramer, a former naval intelligence officer former bush administration for after 9/11 and he left to enlist in the navy on the combined joint special operations task force. we're awaiting the president's remarks he should be there in moments what do you anticipate to hear from the president? >> well good morning. i think what the president is going to share with us is as
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much details as he can about this operation. obviously for security reasons he can't give much, but he's going to talk about what led to this and hopefully, what his plans are moving forward with his plan in syria, how he will adjust that and how this will change, if possible, what he's going through in the middle east jedediah: i imagine that his critics are also writing up their talking points people who are committed to saying that the president has a failed strategy regardless of what comes through as in the success of the raid of al-baghdadi. what do you think the critic's response will be to the events that have emerged today? >> well you know they are always going to find some way to turn every positive into a negative and while we may not always understand the president 's strategy or this administrations strategy, this is an exceptional win for the president and for most importantly our u.s. forces, in the region. ed: and don, to your point, you think about the story and just less than a decade, several years ago you had president
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obama in office claiming in an interview with the new yorker magazine that isis was the jb squad dismissing them as a threat and by the time he handed the reigns to president trump, isis had land mass that was about the size of the state of ohio and you said earlier they've gone from the state of ohio to hiding in caves . it's a big win. >> it's a huge win. when the president took office, i believe there was something over 7 million isis fighters around the world and they've gone down to hundreds we've got them in prison. almost a 98% of that force has been eradicated, and of course, any time you're dealing with an enemy that is non- conventional you'll have hiccups and obstacles but look at where they were and that in itself is a huge success and the biggest success is the fact their leader is now gone.
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pete: don the complexity, 70 special operators we're hearing six to eight helicopters but these high value target raids over the course of almost two decades of warfare in the middle east this is something our special operators do very well. we'll get more details but to go in and kill him or have him blow himself up in the process and leave with no one wounded and injured is truly remarkable. >> absolutely. these forces, they train for this day in and day out. when they're not deployed they're training and an operation like this doesn't just happen overnight. we've had series of human intelligence on the ground as close as possible giving them every detail. you no one of the best ways of the details this came for is many people haven't spoken about one of baghdadi's wives was detained in sentence one of the nephew and the couriers and undoubtedly this is where a lot of this intelligence came from and giving him the details where he was hiding.
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ed: don it's interesting because we've been highlighting the reporting here at fox news all morning long from jennifer griffin at the pentagon, gillian turner also sending out a note about the former official at the department of homeland security saying among other things on one hand this would be the most significant counter terrorist success during the trump adminitration but this former official adding that it should not be a mission accomplished moment because it should be a sobering reminder of the need to fully eliminate isis talk about that balance that president trump has to strike. >> it's a victory and the president should be very proud of what was accomplished; however, forces like isis, forces like al qaeda are still out there and while you may take the leader away for some they will see this as a motivation, an inspiration to find a new leader. because they operate in these
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small sleeper cells throughout the world, it doesn't take but one or two of these terrorists to do huge amounts of damage and we have to appreciate that and make sure that we do not stop the fight until we know for sure that it's completely eradicated. pete: don bramer, thank you for sticking with us and your insight on this big day. we appreciate it. jedediah: we're bringing in michael waltz, former u.s. green beret a member of the house armed services committee. welcome to the show. what is your input with respect to the latest developments on the raid of baghdadi this morning? >> there's a few key factors here. one, i find it somewhat surpris ing that baghdadi was near idlib in a small village between idlib and alepo, that is a witch's brew of quality, turkish forces, russian dominat ed air space and of course the assad regime. that's dominating there, so it's
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interesting that that's where it almost reminds me of osama bin laden where he went hiding almost in plain sight, just a few miles from the pakistani military headquarters, so there was a lot of coordination that had to go on to strike him and hit him in this area. that's one. number two, look, this is the message and this is the important message to terrorists around the world. you could run but you can't height forever. we will find you and my hats off and my hearts out to our special operations forces who while everyone was watching the world series last night and enjoying the free air that we all breathe as americans they were out there on the wall taking care of the nations business, supported by the cia, the nsa, and so many others, to keep america safe. pete: well said and amen. that spot in syria in idlib as you're talking about which has so many overlapping factors, the
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fact that he was there, what does that tell you about the state of isis, of his leadership , and what can you glean out of that? >> so it's interesting that isis had split off from al qaeda when baghdadi became the head of what became isis it was al qaeda in iraq and a lot of critics and i was one of them, blamed the obama administration from pulling out of iraq too soon, and creating the conditions for al qaeda to then turn into isis. now there has been a split between isis and al qaeda given that al qaeda's in idlib, that may have indicated a convergence i think that will come out in the coming days, but it also indicates to me that abu bakr really wasn't in control of isis any more, he was a figure head, keeping him alive was important symbolically for isis and taking him out, i think, will have not
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much in the way of operational impact but has a huge symbolic impact for isis. ed: congressman i wonder if you could weigh in as well as bring this back home. you're laying out some very important strategic decisions in the days ahead in the region there in the mid east but back here at home earlier in the program one of your colleagues devon nunes was on and there's something he said that really struck me among other things. he said very quickly that the intelligence committee has not had a briefing on some of these kinds of matters in about a month, because they've been focus focused on impeachment. aunt that kind of interesting the contrast of the big big moments happening, these big challenges around the world and the house intelligence committee is focused on domestic politics. >> yeah, that's all the intel community is doing, i mean, all the intel committee is doing right now is focusing on impeachment. i think representative nunes is absolutely correct. ed: well congressman i don't want to interrupt you or cut you
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short but here is the president of the united states. we've been anticipating him let's hear from the president. president trump: last night, the united states brought the world 's number one terrorist leader to justice. abu bakr al-baghdadi is dead. he was the founder and leader of isis, the most ruthless and violent terror organization anywhere in the world. the united states has been searching for baghdadi for many years, capturing or killing baghdadi has been the top national security priority of my
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administration. u.s. special operations forces executed a dangerous and daring nighttime raid in northwestern syria and accomplished their mission in grand style. the u.s. personnel were incredible. i got to watch much of it. no personnel were lost in the operation while a large number of baghdadi's fighters and companions were killed with him. he died after running into a dead end tunnel, wimpering and crying and screaming all the way the compound had been cleared by this time with people either surrendering or being shot and killed. eeleven young children were moved out of the house and are
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uninjured. the only ones remaining were baghdadi in the tunnel and he had dragged three of his young children with him. they were led to certain death. he reached the end of the tunnel , as our dogs chased him down. he ignited his vest, killing himself and the three children. his body was mute it lated by the blast, the tunnel had caved in on it in addition, but test results gave certain immediate and totally positive identification. it was him. the thug who tried so hard to intimidate others spent his last moments in utter fear, in total panic and dread, terrified of the american forces bearing down
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on him. we were in the compound for approximately two hours and after the mission was accomplished, we took highly- sensitive material and information from the raid, much having to do with isis origins future plans, things that we very much want. baghdadi's demise demonstrates machining's america's relentless pursuit of terrorist leaders and our commitment to the enduring and total defeat of isis and other terrorist organizations. our reach is very long. as you know, last month, we announced that we recently killed hamsa bin laden the very violent son of osama bin laden who was saying very bad things about people, about our country,
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about the world. he was the heir apparent to al qaeda. terrorists who oppress and murder innocent people should never sleep soundly, knowing that we will completely destroy them. these savage monsters will notice cape their fate and they will not escape the final judgment of god. baghdadi has been on the run for many years, long before i took office. but at my direction, as commander-in-chief of the united states, we obliterated his caliphate 100% in march of this year. today's events are another reminder that we will continue to pursue the remaining isis terrorists to their brutal end. that also goes for other
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terrorist organizations. they are likewise in our sights. baghdadi and the losers who work for him and losers they are. they had no idea what they were getting into. in some cases, they were very frightened puppies. in other cases, they were hard core killers, but they killed many many people. their murder of innocent americans, james foley, steven s aplof, peter kasick, and caleb mueller were especially heinous. the shocking publicized murder of jordanian pilot, a wonderful young man spoke to the king of jordan. they all knew him. they all loved him.
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he was burned alive in a cage for all to see and the execution of christians in libya and egypt as well as the genecideal mass murderer, the rank isis among the most deprived organizations, the history of our world. the forced religious conversions , the orange suits prior to so many beheadings, all of which were openly displayed for the world to see, this was all abu bakr al-baghdadi, this is what he wanted. this is what he was proud of. he was a sick and deprived man and now he's gone.
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baghdadi was vicious and violent and he died in a vicious and violent way as a coward, running and crying. this raid was impecable and could only have taken place with the acknowledgment and health of certain other nations and people i want to thank the nations of russia, turkey, syria, and iraq and i also want to thank the syrian kurds for certain support they were able to give us. this is a very very dangerous mission. thank you as well to the great intelligence professionals who helped make this very successful journey possible. i want to thank the soldiers and sailors, airmen and marines involved in last night's operation. you are the very best there is anywhere in the world, no matter
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where you go. there is nobody even close. i want to thank general mark mil ley, and our joint chiefs of staff, and i also want to thank our professionals who work in other agencies of the united states government and were critical to the missions unbelievable success. last night was a great night to the united states and for the world. a brutal killer, one who has caused so much hardship and death, has violently been eliminated. he will never again harm another innocent man, woman, or child. he died like a dog. he died like a coward. the world is now a much safer place. god bless america. thank you.
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any questions? reporter: [indiscernible] president trump: we had him under surveillance for a couple of weeks. we knew a little bit about where he was going, where he was heading. we had very good information that he was going to another location. he didn't go, two or three efforts were canceled because he decided to change his mind constantly changing his mind and finally, we saw that he was here , held up here. we knew something about the compound. we knew it had tunnels. the tunnels were dead end for the most part. there was one, we think, that wasn't, but we had that covered too just in case. the level of intelligence, the level of work was pretty amazing when we landed with eight helicopters, a large crew of brilliant fighters ran out of
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those helicopters and blew holes into the side of the building, not wanting to go through the main door because that was booby trapped and there was something, there was something really amazing to see. i got to watch it along with general milley, vice president pence, others in the situation room and we watched it so clearly. reporter: how did you watch? president trump: well i don't want to say how but we have absolutely perfect as though you were watching a movie. the technology there alone is really great. a big part of the trip that was of great danger was the, it was approximately an hour and 10 minute flight that we were flying over very very dangerous territory. in fact, some of our leaders said that that could be the most dangerous flying in and flying out and that's why last night we
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were so quiet about it. we didn't say anything and i didn't make my remark until after they had landed safely in a certain area, but the flight in, the flight out was a very very dangerous part. it was a chance that we would have met unbelievable fire. russia treated us great. they opened up, we had a fly over certain russia-held areas. russia was great. iraq was excellent. we really had great cooperation and you have to understand, they didn't know what we were doing and where we were going exactly, but the isis fighters are hated as much by russia and some of these other countries as they are by us and that's why i say they should start doing a lot of the fighting now and they will be able to. i really believe they will be
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able to. yes, jennifer. reporter: what role was played in this generally? president trump: they gave us not a military role but they gave us some information that turned out to be helpful, the kurds. reporter: the role of turkey by chance and iraq? president trump: who? reporter: what was the role of turkey? president trump: turkey, we dealt with them. they knew we were going in. we flew over some territory. they were terrific, no problem. they were not a problem. they could start shooting and then we will take them out, but a lot of bad things can happen, plus it was a very secret mission. we flew very very low and very very fast but it was a very dangerous part of the mission. getting in and getting out too, equal. we wanted an identical, we took an identical route. we met with gunfire coming in but it was local gunfire. that gunfire was immediately terminated.
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these people are amazing. they had the gunfire terminated immediately meaning they were shot from the airships. reporter: can you talk about the timing? you talked earlier about pulling troops out and then bringing troops in. we're trying to distinguish the typing of when this operation -- president trump: well from the first day that i came to office and now we're getting close to three years, i would say where is al-baghdadi? i want al-baghdadi and we would kill terrorist leaders, but they were names i never heard of. they were names that were un recognizable and they weren't the big names. some good ones, some important ones but they weren't the big names. i kept saying where is al-baghdadi, and a couple of weeks ago, they were able to scope him out. you know, these people are very smart. they're not into the use of cell phones any more. they're very technically brilliant. they use the internet better
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than almost anybody in the world , perhaps other than donald trump, but they use the internet incredibly well and what they've done with the internet through recruit recruiting and everything and that's why he died like a dog, he died like a coward. he was wimpering, screaming and crying, and frankly, i think it's something that should be brought out so that his follower s and all of these young kids that want to leave various countries, including the united states, they should see how he died. he didn't die a hero. he died a coward. crying, wimpering, screaming and bringing three kids with him to die. certain death, and he knew the tunnel had no end. i mean, it was a closed end tunnel. not a good place to be. reporter: was this going on before? president trump: i've been looking for him for three years. i've been looking for him, i
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started getting some very positive feedback about a month ago and we had some incredible intelligence officials that did a great job. that's what they should be focused on. reporter: about what time did this operation start yesterday? president trump: well this operation started two weeks ago in terms of the real operation, because we had him scoped. we thought he'd be at a certain location. he was. things started checking out very well. we were involved on our own with some brilliant people who i've gotten to know, brilliant people that love our country, highly intelligent people and we've had it pretty well scoped out for a couple of weeks, but he tends to change immediately. he had a lot of cash. he tends to change like on a dime, where he'll be going to a certain location, all of a sudden he'll go some place else and you'll have to cancel, but this was one where we knew he
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was there and you can never be 100% sure, because you're basing it on technology more than anything else, but we thought he was there and then we got a confirmation and when we went in , they were greeted with a lot of fire power, a lot of fire power. i tell you, these guys, they do a job. they are so brave and so good and so importantly, many of his people were killed and we'll announce the exact number over the next 24 hours, but many were killed. we lost nobody. think of that. it's incredible. reporter: you told the russians -- president trump: actually the k9 was hurt when it went into the tunnel, but we lost nobody. reporter: you requested to the russians the area that was controlled. president trump: we spoke to the russians. we told them we're coming in,
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and they said thank you foretelling us. they were very good. they did not know why. we did tell them, we think you're going to be very happy, because you know again, they hate isis as much as we do. you know what isis has done to russia? so, no, we did not, they did not know the mission but they knew we were going over an area that they had a lot of fire power. reporter: had you notified the congressional about this? president trump: we notified some and others are being notified now as i speak. we were going to notify them last night but we decided not to do that because washington leaks like i've never seen before. there's nothing there's no country in the world that leaks like we do and washington is a leaking machine and i told my people, we will not notify them until our great people are out. not just in, but out.
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i don't want to have them greeted with fire power like you wouldn't believe, so we were able to get in. it was top secret. it was kept. there were no leaks, no nothing. the only people that knew were the few people that i dealt with and again mark milley and the joint chiefs of staff were incredible. we had some tremendous backup, robert o'brien, secretary esper, secretary pompeo, pence i told you, he was great. this is a very small group of people that knew about this. we had very very few people. a leak could have cost the death of all of them. now, they're so good that i think nothing was going to stop him anyway if you want to know the truth. that's how good they were. we had them also surrounded by massive air power, up in the air yesterday, surrounded at very high levels, we were very low. we had tremendous air power. reporter: and you watched all of
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this from the situation room? who were you with when you watched it? president trump: secretary esper , a few of the joint chiefs , mark milley, some generals, we had some very great military people in that room, and we had some great intelligence people, robert o'brien. go ahead. yes? reporter: with the pullout of the u.s. troops in syria last month, was it tied in with this raid? president trump: no, it's a great question and you're doing a great job by the way, your network is fantastic they are really doing a great job please let them know. no, the pullout hads had nothing to do with this. in fact we found this out at a very similar time. it's a very good question. we're after these leaders and we have others in sight, very bad ones but this was the biggest
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one, perhaps that we've ever captured, because this is the one that built isis and beyond and was looking to rebuild it again, very very strongly looking to build it again. that's why he went to this province, this is why he went to this area. a lot of people i was watching this morning and hearing and they said why was he there? people were so surprised so that's where he was trying to rebuild from because that was the place that made most sense if you are looking to rebuild. yeah? reporter: you said at what moment [indiscernible] president trump: so i said that right after i knew they landed safely. reporter: when they returned? president trump: right and that was to notify you guys there was something big this morning so you wouldn't be out playing golf or tennis. or otherwise being in disposed. reporter: where they were based or landed? president trump: i'd rather not say but we landed in a very friendly port in a friendly country. reporter: do you have anything about your decision to withdraw?
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president trump: no i think it's great. look, we don't want to keep soldiers between syria and turkey for the next 200 years. they've been fighting for hundreds of years. we're out, but we are leaving soldiers to secure the oil, and we may have to fight for the oil that's okay. maybe somebody else wants the oil in which case they had a hell of a fight but there's massive amounts of oil, and we're securing it for a couple of reasons. number one, it stops isis because isis got tremendous wealth from that oil. we have taken it, secured. number two, and again, somebody else may claim it, but either we'll negotiate a deal with whoever is claiming it if we think it's fair, or we will stop them very quickly. we have tremendous power in that part of the world. we have the airport is right nearby, a very big, very monstrous, very powerful airport and very expensive airport that was built years ago.
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we're in that middle east now for $8 trillion, so we don't want to be keeping syria and turkey. they are going to have to make their own decisions. the kurds have worked along incredibly with us but in all fairness it was much easier dealing with the kurds after they went through three days of fighting because that was a brutal three days, and we would have said to the kurds hey, do you mind moving over seven miles because you know, they were in the middle mostly, so you have seven or eight miles, could you mind moving over, because i have to say, turkey has taken tremendous deaths from that part of the world. you know, we call it a safe zone , but it was anything but a safe zone. turkey has lost thousands and thousands of people from that safe zone, so they've always wanted that safe zone for many years. i'm glad i was able to help him get it but we don't want to be there. we want to be home. i want our soldiers home or fighting something that's meaningful. i'll tell you who loves us being
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there. russia and china, because while they build their military, we're depleting our military there so russia loves us being there and russia likes us being there for two reasons. because we kill isis, we kill terrorists, and they're very close to russia. we're 8,000 miles away. well maybe they can get here but we've done very well with homeland security and the ban, which by the way is approved by the united states supreme court as you know. you know there was a report that said we lost the case and it was right and he didn't want to say, just refused to say that we won the case in the supreme court, so you know but we have a very effective ban and it's very hard for people to come to our country, but it's many thousands of miles away whereas russia's right there, turkey is right there, syria is there. they were all right there, excuse me, iran is right there, iraq is right there. they all hate isis, so we don't,
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you know? in theory, they should do something and i'll give you something else. the european nations have been a tremendous disappointment because i personally called but my people called a lot. take your isis fighters and they didn't want them. they said we don't want them. they came from france, they came from germany, they came from the uk, they came from a lot of countries, and i actually said to them, you don't take them i'm going to drop them right on your border and you could have fun capturing them. but the united states taxpayer is not going to pay for the next 50 years. you see what guantanamo costs. we're not going to pay tens of billions of dollars because we were good enough to capture people that want to go back to germany, france, uk, and other parts of europe and they could walk back. they can't walk to our country. we have lots of water in between our country and them, so yeah, go. reporter: you mentioned that
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you'd met some, gotten to know some brilliant people along this process who had helped side information and advice along the way. is there anyone in particular or would you like to give anyone credit for getting to this point today? president trump: i would but if i mention one i have to mention so many. i spoke to senator richard burr this morning, and as you know, he's very involved with intelligence and the committee and he's a great gentleman. i spoke with lindsey graham just a little while ago. in fact lindsey graham is right over here and he's been very much involved in the subject and he's a very strong hawk, but i think lindsay agrees with what we're doing there and again, there are plenty of other countries that can help them patrol. i don't want to leave 1,000 or 2,000 or 3,000 soldiers on the border, but where lindsey and i totally agree is the oil. the oil is so valuable, for many
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reasons. it fueled isis, number one, and number two, it helps the kurds because it's basically been taken away from the kurds. they were able to live with that oil and number three, it can help us because we should be able to take some also and what i intend to do, perhaps is make a deal with an exxon-mobile or one of our great companies to go in there and do it properly. right now it's not big. it's big oil underground but it's not big oil up top. much of the machinery has been shot and dead. its been through wars, but and spread out the wealth but no, we're protecting the oil. we're securing the oil. now that doesn't mean we don't make a deal at some point, but i don't want to be, they're fighting for a thousand years, fighting for centuries. i want to bring our soldiers back home, but i do want to secure the oil. if you read about the history of donald trump, i was a civilian.
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i had absolutely nothing to do with going into iraq and i was totally against it, but i always used to say if they're going to go in nobody cared that much but it got written about, if they're going to go in i'm sure you've heard the statement, if they're going into iraq keep the oil. they never did. they never did. i know lindsey graham had a bill where basically we would have been paid back for all of the billions of dollars that we've spent, many many billions of dollars, and i hate to say it, it's actually trillions of dollars but many many billions of dollars, and by one vote, they were unable to get that approved in the senate. they had some pretty big opposition from people that shouldn't have opposed like a president and they weren't able. if you did that iraq would be a much different story today because they would be owing us a lot of money. they would be treating us much differently but i will say iraq was very good with respect to the raid last night.
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reporter: just to pin down the timing a little bit better here, you got back to the white house around 4:30 yesterday afternoon. did you immediately go to the situation room? president trump: i knew all about this for three days. we thought for three days this is what was going to happen. it was actually, look nobody was even hurt. our k9 as i call it, a dog, a beautiful dog, a talented dog, was injured and brought back, but we had no soldier, injured and they did a lot of shooting and they did a lot of blasting. even not going through the front door. you'd think you go through the door, if you're a normal person, you say knock knock, may i come in? the fact is that they blasted their way into the house in a very heavy wall and it took them literally seconds by the time those things run off they had a beautiful big hole and they ran in and they got everybody by
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surprise. unbelievably brilliant as fighters. i can't imagine there could be anybody better and these as you know are our top operations people. reporter: baghdadi apparently has been for some time is there any indication of that? president trump: well we don't know that but he was the last one out and his people had either been killed which there were many, or gave up and came out because with the 11 children that came out, we're able to do that, we don't know if they were his children. they might have been but as i said three died in the tunnel and the tunnel collapsed with the explosion, but you had other fighters coming out also and they're being brought back right now. we have them in prison. reporter: if you remember what time you went into the situation room? president trump: well, i started at 5:00. we were pretty much gathered at
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5:00 yesterday. we were in contact all day long through hopefully secure phones, i'll let you know tomorrow but nothing seemed to leak so i guess they were secure for a change, but we gathered more or less at 5. the attack started moments after that. the liftoff started moments after that. again, the element of attack that they were most afraid of was getting from our base into their compound because there's tremendous fire power that we were flying over and i won't go into it, but you had a very big russian presence in one area. you had a turkish presence. you had a syrian presence, and you're flying low, it's very dangerous, and there were shots made but we think these were people shooting that within shooting and the helicopters
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took some shots but we think these were people that were just random people that don't like to see helicopters i guess. reporter: was there any kind of dna test done? president trump: no. that's another part of the genius of these people. they brought his, they have his dna. more of it than they want even and they brought it with them with lab technicians who were with them and they assumed that this was baghdadi. they thought visually it was him , but they assumed it was him , and they did an on-site test. they got samples and to get to his body they had to remove a lot of debris because the tunnel had collapsed but these people are very good at that, and as i said they brought body parts back with them et cetera. there wasn't much left. the vest blew up but there were still substantial pieces that
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they brought back, so they did an on-site test because we had to know this, and it was a very quick call that took place about 15 minutes after he was killed and it was positive. this is a confirmation, sir. reporter: it was also reported his wife or one of his wife's detonated a vest. reporter: so there were two women, both wives, both wearing vests. they had not detonated but the fact that they were dead and they had vests on made it very difficult for our men, because they had vests on and it made it very difficult for our men because you never know what's going to happen. they are dead, they never detonated but they were debt. reporter: on the possible successors have you been briefed president trump: yeah, we know
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these successors and we've already got them in our sight so we'll tell you them right now, but we know the successors. hamsa bin laden was a big thing, but this is the biggest there is this is the worst ever. osama bin laden was very big but he became big with the world trade center. this is a man who built a hole, as he would like to call it, a country, a caliphate, and was trying to do it again, and i had not heard too much about his health. i've heard stories about he may not have been in good health, but he died in a ruthless, vicious manner that i can tell you. reporter: was any adults there? president trump: yes we have people that were taken. many of the people died on the site but we have people that were taken, yes, and the children, we left them under care of somebody that we
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understand. eleven children. reporter: how many adults? president trump: i'd rather not say i'd leave that to the generals but a small group. more dead than alive. reporter: which special operations teams were involved? president trump: many of them, and at the top level, and people that were truly incredible at their craft, i've never seen anything like it. reporter: the first partnerships were there any other forces involved or was this only american troops? president trump: no only american forces. only american forces but we were given great cooperation. reporter: did the u.s. rely on -- president trump: we told the russians we're coming in because we had to go over them, and they were curious, but we said we're coming. we said one way or the other look, we're coming, but they were very cooperative. they really were, go ahead. we did say that it would be a mission that they liked too, because you know again, they
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hate isis as much as we do. reporter: for intel purposes was there any foreign intel that proved useful along the way? president trump: so we had our own intel. we got very little help. we didn't need very much help. we have some incredible people. when we use our intelligence correctly, what we can do is incredible. when we waste our time with intelligence, that hurts our country because we had poor leadership at the top, that's not good, but i've gotten to know many of the intel people and i will say that they are spectacular. now they're not going to want to talk about it. they want to keep it quiet, the last thing they want because these are great patriots but the people that i've been dealing with are incredible people and it's really a deserving name, " intelligence." i've dealt with some people that aren't very intelligent, having to do with intel but this is the top people and it was incredible
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it was flawless and it was very complicated, but so i do appreciate russia, turkey, iraq, and syria to an extent because we're flying into syria, a lot of syrian people with lots of guns, so we had good cover for probably the most dangerous part it would not sound, you know when you fly in, it doesn't sound like that would be the most dangerous when you're going into shooting nests and all of the things that happened once they broke into that pretty powerful compound. that was a very strong compound and as i said had tunnels, but the most dangerous part, we had great cooperation with, yes ma'am? reporter: did you inform speaker pelosi ahead of time? president trump: no i didn't do that. i wanted to make sure this kept secret. i don't want to have men lost and women. i don't want to have people lost reporter: do you anticipate inviting the special forces team to the white house?
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president trump: oh, yeah they will be invited. i don't know if they will want to have their faces shown to be honest with you. they are incredible for the country. they aren't looking for public relations, but they love doing what they're doing. i've seen it. first lady was out there recently looking what they do. she came back and she said wow, i've never seen anything like that. the training, you know all of the training, and the power of the people. the men and women, the strength, the physical strength, the mental strength. these are incredible people. these are very unique individuals. reporter: the wimpering could you hear that on your video hook up, you said the wimpering of baghdadi. president trump: i don't want to talk about it, but he was screaming, crying, and wimpering and he was scared out of his mind and think of james foley. think of the things he did to
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kayla. what he did to foley and so many others and for those people that say oh, isn't this a little violent? think of how many times have you seen men, i think in all cases, men for the most part, but in terms of this, where you see the orange suits and you see the ocean and they're beheaded, or how many of you got to see, because it was out there, the jordanian pilot whose plane went down, captured him, they put him in a cage and they set him on fire and the king of jordan actually attacked very powerful ly when that happened. they've never seen a thing like that but he set him on fire. this was al-baghdadi and you should never ever hopefully see a thing like that again. now, there will be new people emerge but this was the worst of this particular world. this was the worst, probably in certain ways the smartest.
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he was also a coward, and he didn't want to die, but think of it. everybody was out and we were able to search him down and find him in the tunnel. we knew the tunnel existed and that's where he was. reporter: you've taken a lot of heat for the pullout. do you think this will change your standing? president trump: well i don't have a syria pullout. i just don't want to guard turkey and syria for the rest of our lives. i don't want to do it. it's very expensive and dangerous. they've been fighting for centuries. i don't want tv my people, 2,000 men and women or 1,000 or 28. we had 28-yards and i said i don't want them there anyway. i don't want them but now i will secure the oil that happens to be in a certain part, but that's tremendous money involved. i would love to, you know the oil i mean i'll tell you a story in iraq, so they spent president bush went in, i strongly disagreed with it even though it
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wasn't my expertise at the time but i have a very good instinct at the time and they went in and i said that's a tremendous mistake and there were no weapon s of mass destruction. it turned out i was right. i was right for other reasons but it turned out on top of everything else they had no weapons of mass destruction, because that would be a reason to go in but i heard iraq actually discriminates against america in oil leases. in other words, some oil companies from other countries after all we've done have an advantage in iraq for the oil. i said keep the oil. give them what they need. keep the oil. why should we, we go in, we lose thousands of lives, spend
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