killed al-baghdadi, but this canine american is already back on the job. well done, conan. you are a hero. thanks for your service. that's "the story" on monday of october 28th. we will see you here tomorrow. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "the tucker carlson tonight." a moment that could have united this fractious country, became more fodder for those who profit off our division. late saturday night, the trump administration announced that thing they'll make the excessive military raid in northwest syria, the isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi had been killed. >> he died after running into a dead end tunnel, whimpering, crying, screaming all the way. he was a sick, depraved man, and he died in a vicious and violent way, as a coward running and

crying. he died like a dog. he died like a coward. the world is now a much safer place. >> tucker: "second depraved" is not an overstatement. al-baghdadi ran one of the most gruesome death culture and history. in syria and iraq, his followers killed untold thousands. them, tortured them, set them on fire on camera. so bug dottie's here in washington, manycomplaid to kill him. house speaker nancy pelosi wind hadn't been given notification. former obama national director james clapper told viewers that somehow the killing of the isis leader would make isis stronger. on cnn, some compare the president to isis.

>> there were a lot of moment during donald trump's speech which jarred in some degree, echoed frankly the crudeness he would often expect to hear from somebody in isis about the whimpering, screaming baghdadi pin that down in a steel tunnel. it was disturbing to hear to some degree. >> upper level on this, you do not celebrate that. don't care if it's a terrorist, i would not use that. it's embarrassing. >> tucker: i would not use that language. says the guy who makes a career of screaming and filming on television. over at cnn.com, one of the reporters combined a list saying, 41 of the shocking things -- there was max boot, always the most arranged. also because he's probably the dumbest, that trump was not respectful enough of baghdadi.

trump could have not heard whimpering and crying because there was no audio. the assertion that baghdadi died as a coward that rather than to be captured, he blew himself up. in other words, according to max boot, baghdadi was a hero of sorts and shame on trump for calling him a coward. that sounds sort of far out. you should know that msnbc devoted significant coverage to the question whether baghdadi actually whimpered before he died. >> he was talking about baghdadi's final moments. take a listen to this. >> he died after running into a dead end tunnel whimpering, crying, screaming all the way. >> as you point out in the piece, there was no live audio from the raid. so square that circle for us. >> tucker: square that circle? beyond parity? a lot of word goes to "the washington post" tonight. "abu bakr al-baghdadi, oscar religious scholar head of isis,

dies at 38." you can file it with other memorable history, "goal oriented leader with distinctive mustache found dead in bunker." "usama bin laden, husband to five, killed in home invasion." what is this about? ultimately you are watching the flailing of a leadership class that despises the country it governs. they loathe the elected president so much they are incapable of acknowledging any encouragement what it is. trump is bad, trump killed baghdadi, therefore killings be 25 was bad. that's how these reported geniuses think there they are purely reactive about everything. not just the death of terrace. the ears of the people who sat by idly as the entire middle-class died in china rose to take america's place as leader of the world. alone in political figures, trump noted these things.

he ran on these issues, and he won. in response to that, rather than learn something, our leaders took the opposite side, took the side of the fentanyl smugglers from mexico. to the side of our mortal enemies of the fascist government of china. these are oppositions you would take if you cared about people but it's pretty obvious they hate trump far more than they love america. piers morgan is watching all this from across the ocean. he's editor at large for dailymail.com, a brit but a keen observer of all things america. i know you are not in agreement with the president on a lot of things. but to assess, if you will of the response of our press to this latest announcement? >> is terrifying, talker speak up terrifying, >> my mind went back to when usama bin laden was killed and i was in new york city. i remember the reaction. i remember the reaction from every body.

there was widespread jubilation throughout new york, throughout washington, throughout america. this was a unified response from a country jubilant as seeing the end of the grisly demise of a leader of al qaeda. compared to the reaction yesterday to the demise of baghdadi who i would argue, legibly i would think, has committed even worse atrocities. may not be in a motive of but the words done under his name of isis have been barbaric, despicable, he did this at any level, they should be a moment to celebrate a brilliant operation by american armed forces, a courageous and bold order to conduct the mission for the president of the president of the united states. and a moment for americans to show the world that when they said they would get tougher terrorism, they meant it. this would've been able to plant the flag firmly of the american flag on that stand of we will not tolerate terrorism.

but instead, the stance has become, let's just [boos] boo the president of the world series, let's respond by booing him. let's chant "lock him up." whatever you think of trump, there is no middle ground with him. you love him or you hate him. the opposite of the presidency deserves more respect than i saw last night. in light of what had happened few hours earlier. there is no comparison between donald trump and baghdadi. baghdadi rendered organization that likes to burn people alive in cages, that likes to throw gay people off rooftops, that likes to kidnap and rape thousands of women. they like to eliminate pathways of their rival muslims. bomb, massacre, shot their way around the world, committing

appalling atrocities against people in paris, in nice, in london, running people over on the promenade. let's not forget what this guy was. yesterday should've been a great day for america and a great day for the world. instead, the narrative is let's try to find where trump went wrong and the way he spoke about this. let's try and find a way that makes trump look bad. by doing that, the message of the world is, america is bad. this is not a good day, this is a bad day -- i don't get it! >> tucker: i don't either but it's worth to figure out what's going on here but it's like a rorschach blot, i want to say with our viewers, you had many disagreements with trump. you are not a trump acolyte at all, but your first reaction is of course that's a good thing. but a lot of people here in washington to whom that wasn't clear. what does that say for them? >> i was on twitter as rumors were bubbling about what this

was once president trump started tweeting, people started to guess it might've been baghdadi been already i saw the reaction of what i would call the more deranged liberals of america. boiling themselves up. not in jubilation of what had happened, but infuriated somehow, trump may have done something right. he may have out some credit for that simply unconscionable. they were not going to allow that to happen. the narrative that planet ever since then has not been what it should been, which is the destruction of -- by the way, i take great pleasure in celebrating the death of baghdadi. this is one of the worst terrorists in modern times. >> tucker: that is true. >> i'm glad he's gone and i quite enjoy the gory details the president gave about that sniveling cowards last few seconds on this earth. i did enjoy it. i want him gone. i wanted him to stop maiming and killing people.

let's put that on the record. what does it say about these liberals -- so-called liberals. they stand for the complete antithesis of liberalism. they don't believe in free speech, they do not believe in fairness or anything. they believe right now screaming at anyone who doesn't fit their narrow worldview, there narrative of events. when that is applied to something like the death of baghdadi, the leader of isis, it's a shocking moment. i thought last night, frankly, was shameful. i thought -- james themselves, shame their country. >> tucker: i think that's exactly right. piers morgan, good to see you. a former u.s. army captain who think will add more voice be great to see you. >> great to be back, talker, tucker.

killings for 25 was a victory to the united states and that was a great day for all americans weather on the left or right or center. but instead, some in the media on the left, to repeat myself, seem to be incapable of viewing anything issue outside the prism of what is good for donald trump is bad and what is bad for donald trump is good, and so immediately after the story broke, you saw a cascade of attempts to either downplay the significance of the mission, or to find a negative angle from which to spend it. so john horwood from cnbc for example compared killing baghdadi to killing an ant. cnbc had a front-page story, "how does killings b26 affect impeachment inquiry?" >> tucker: did it actually say that? >> no kidding, on the front page. and max boot, he takes the cake has he normally does with stupidity, decided to defend

baghdadi with charges from him being a coward. >> tucker: stand up for the manly virtues of baghdadi. >> speed 26 ran down a tunnel with three children as human shields and got to the end of the tunnel and was cornered and he blew himself up. and the children with him. that's not anything other than cowardice. but go back to this prism of what's good for donald trump is bad and what's bad for donald trump is good come of all that to the logical conclusion, you have max boot somehow defending the leader of isis. which if you find yourself defending the leader of baghdadi, take a long walk, take the fedora off, look in a mirr mirror. >> tucker: when you find yourself hating trump more than you love america -- very quick, give us the perspective of the guys who did this. what do they think of this? >> i don't want to speak for them in particular, but what i can tell you that any time you

take a major player like baghdadi off the battlefield, anytime you have a major success like that, it's huge for morale. it sends a message that the matter where you are, the united states is going to come hunt you down and bring you justice. they did that and deserve all the credit in the world. >> tucker: even if you are underground. thank you for that. >> thank you very much. >> tucker: joe biden's residence or campaign, not trying to be mean here, struggling. having the endorsement of america's most popular democrat seems like a buddhist, but according to biden, he doesn't even want the endorsements. >> why hasn't the president obama endorsed you? you have served with each other for eight years. >> i want this on my own. >> did he ask to endorse you? >> i think he thinks it's better for me. >> tucker: yeah, he thinks he's better. i asked him not to endorse him. already the saddest thing that's ever happened in american politics, but somehow he's working hard to make it sadder.

richard goodstein is the former advisor to bill and hillary clinton. can we just dispense this sad psychodrama here, do you think it's plausible that the former vice president called barack obama and said, please don't endorse me. >> he said that back in april when he announced -- let's keep this in perspective. ronald reagan did not endorse george w. bush may 1998 after it was clear he would become the dominate. when dwight eisenhower was asked to tell about richard nixon's accomplishments as he was running for vice president to secede eisenhower, eisenhower said give me a week and let me think of one. in contrast, barack obama could give you a whole list -- be what does barack obama have contempt for joe biden for democratic reasons? he had to -- he was badly treated by the obama people. nobody ever talked about it, but that's real.

ask around. why is he not endorsing some of my question is why did biden saying when that's so not obviously not true? >> i think that bromance was real. look at all the picture of the hugs. this was a real friendship. i would defy you to show one picture of donald trump and mike pence -- b would let me just say, some of the family members were close. that's absolutely true. but biden himself was told on by a lot of the obama people. that's also true. i'm not going to force you a question you aren't going to answer. he's lying to us for the whole campaign is sad. what does that mean for you? what does that mean for basically moderate democrats, the biden thing is not working for you? are you going to support elizabeth warren? >> pardon me, but joe biden wants to win from the grassroots up. if obama endorsed him and somebody else when met, person

is like -- >> tucker: i live in this country! i'm not for some crazy person for the democratic nomination. i'm not attacking joe biden. i feel so bad the whole thing is imploding. what are you going to do when the whole thing does implode? >> with all the ukraine stop and the attacks on his son has held up as well as he did and if the last ten democratic nominations, the first in the polls in december won a grand total of three times. howard dean was first, john kerry was sixth in december of '03. five weeks later had the nomination locked up. we just don't know. could cory booker win -- >> tucker: if cory booker won, we'd have to leave the country. if biden doesn't get it, i'm not being mean here. i honestly don't think he's gonna. if he doesn't, where does that leave noncrazy, nonsocialist democrats? are they going to support elizabeth warren? >> we don't know if that

happens, if biden falls away, against the odds he'd hasn't, but if he does i do not know if there's going to be around amy klobuchar, cory booker, michael bennet who i'm supporting. i think any democrats out there watching his support somebody who's a nonsocialist, keep supporting them because you just don't know how things are going to break. >> tucker: i've never rooting for anything for the democrat party because i think it's corrupt, but i'm rooting for america. i wanted to be the most reasonable force it can be. richard, thank you. record numbers of america saying they are open to implanting socialism in america. young people mostly. why? part of the reason, the main part of the reason is because our college system explodes and destroys young people. it's an existential threat to this country. the student loan crisis is that the heart of it and we'll explain it after the break.

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polls like this predict a looming disaster. in order to prevent that, we need to be clear about what has gone wrong. you often hear it said that young people support socialism because they have been brainwashed by their professors. of course, there is truth to that. if you've got kids in college, we let the most vital job in america, educating the next generation of citizens, to some of the most mediocre people in society. that's a huge problem. we need to fix it. but believe it or not, it's not the main problem. the main problem, the reason that capitalism increasingly is discredited and socialism is increasingly popular, is that our current system is making young people poor. go to college, you'll be successful if you do. but too often, that advice is outdated, if not an utter lie. huge numbers of our kids wind up in impoverished by the experience of college, their dreams afforded forever. the reason for that is debt. 45 million americans now labor

under student loans by the average debt burden is $37,000 per person. that's the price of a brand-new car. imagine starting your first job with that hanging over you. keep in mind, college debt isn't like ordinary debt thanks to well-funded lobbying campaigns, student loans cannot be erased by bankruptcy. they last forever. many of today's college freshmen can expect to spend their working lives interest on loans in the end that didn't help them at all. no wonder young people aren't getting married or buying homes or having children. they can't afford to. and no wonder so many of them support bernie sanders and lisbeth warren. if this is capitalism, they don't want any part of it. the irony, of course, is the only people benefiting from this current system are on the far left, the college presidents with multimillion dollar salaries. the authoritarian university administrators and the suddenly ubiquitous diversity and inclusion offices. the tenured pressers down the

professors of nonbinary feminist poetry and other fake academic disciplines. without question the least impressive people in this country. and yet they are the only ones coming out ahead of the deal. they are feasting on our children's debt. an entire generation of americans enslaved to interest payments so that a small number of left-wing academics can have lifetime employment making this country worse. that's the arrangement we've struck. and for the rest of us? socialism for that's what we are going to get out of it in reaction to it. there's got to be a better way to do things. some on the left propose for giving student loans entirely, which is to say sticking american taxpayers with the bill for all of this. if there is one thing that can make a terrible situation even worse, it's that. taxpayers didn't cause this problem here they shouldn't be punished anymore than they already have been. the corrupt higher education establishment concocted this scam. they should pay to fix it.

harvard's endowment is $40 billion. yale's endowment is 30 billion. let's start there. what's clear is we need to move the crashing financial burden of student debt off the shoulders of middle-class families and 22-year-olds and back to the people who have gotten rich from it. that's an idea that every sensible person can support. in fact, there's a big political payoff or any politician wise enough to adopt it. the candidate that promises colleges to ease the student loan burden without question will be the next president of the united states. in samuel has been a great deal of time in academic america. a former supreme court clerk among other things but thank you for coming on. because a small group of greedy, totally mediocre liberals have wrecked the u.s. economy, the rest of us get socialism. does that seem fair to you?

>> well... obviously i like the idea everybody getting socialism, but to one part of your proposal. i do like the idea of helping the people cause a problem pay for it and i wonder if there's real promise in saying, look, these endowments are big and rich. much bigger and richer than the debt load of all the students out there who are sort of carrying this burden. so let's make a deal, right? will have free public colleges and universities and we will relieve student debt burden of all the people who are hoodwinked in per dissipating in the system in the first place. not for nothing -- i don't want to forget this, by the way. the real people who get screwed by the system are the people who are chased off going to college in the first place because they don't think they are going to be able to afford and the not want that crushing debt burden. they are a prayerfully reasonable target to distribute the wealth of the endowment. >> tucker: you are getting warmer in my opinion, but why is it the student radicals telling us how radical they are, so

radical -- of course, they are just slavishly devoted to protecting the ruling class, of course, whether they know it or not, but none of them ever suggest just seizing the endowments of these arbiters quickly 40 billion, gail 30 billion. why does nobody stand up and say we are taking your endowment and using it to pay off student debt. nobody says that. why? >> all you need to do is to shout the idea out loud a few times. i like that idea and it's amazing how fast this stuff can work. i think that's a perfectly reasonable idea and it's a reasonable idea for all sorts of debt that exist out there. >> tucker: if trump wants to get reelected, he'll suggest that. because who is against that? but i bet you 20 bucks that none of the radicals out there, if trump suggested it, would be for it. >> well... i don't know about that because i think we may have a slightly different idea of what counts as

radical, but i think -- i was thinking the other day it's unfair if you'll have a gun buyback program for it why does the taxpayer have to pay for that equipment shouldn't you confiscate the profits of the gun company? that's this -- you caused this problem, you have a nice house. maybe some of these people should get some of these profi profits. it's restitution, in other wor words. >> tucker: no one has hurt this country more than the academic establishment. that's the reason an entire generation is in getting married, having kids. we are going to see a demographic collapse -- that's bad, by the way. if you care about america, you care about it citizens for all backgrounds to multiply and get married. they can't because a small group of left-wing creeps is taking all the money, living america. why is elizabeth warren -- why doesn't she defend that? >> what i hear there is a very good financing proposal for universal public child care. these are big endowments.

we may have child care -- >> tucker: they do not want to -- they want to raise their own kids! parents want to raise their own kids but how about even more radical, let's have an economy where one parent can support a family? >> that sounds good. i'll raise you one better but how about universal allowance for a parent who stays home to take care of the child? >> tucker: i would be for that. good. >> we've produced an unusual level of consensus. although i don't think my old colleagues at harvard are going to love it. >> tucker: for decades, the american left shied away from socialism even as it took off around the globe. we aren't so fearless, we are liberals. now the situation is reversed. socialist governments are collapsing around the world because the economics don't work, that we know for certain, but here in the united states democrat epidemic i proudly pushes a socialist agenda. >> i tell you what are the terms

of democratic socialism. i agree what goes on in canada and scandinavia, guaranteed health care to all people and for human rights. >> i think a document and people need to have a means to be covered when they are sick. >> raise your hand if you work health care plan would provide coverage for a document and immigrants? >> tucker: author and columnist mark steyn joins us. with the perspective you have the rest of the world, you are seeing with lots of even the left in europe are saying, may be open borders doesn't work. maybe we can't afford a welfare state for the entire world. and yet, why is that message not filtering down to liberals in our country? >> well, because i think there is a huge constituency for it and i think it's very different from the way socialism took off in europe, for example. socialism got a hold because you were a coal miner and your family had been coal miners for

generations and you were going to be a coal miner all your life so you wanted to organize to protect the economic security of being a coalminer. and just as in the modern era, america has helped china find the only economically viable form of communism. so at home, it has had a knock on effect and now we have a kind of prosperous people who have had one of the most privileged upbringings of all who are socialist because as you are talking about with your previous guests, they spend six and a half years getting a worthless piece of paper, which leaves them with six figures of debt. so that means that they enter adulthood later. we have huge numbers of people in their late 20s and early 30s still living with their parents, tracing up the stairs

every night to the same bedroom they slept in when they were seven, with the teddy bear wallpaper! we have deferred adulthood. when you maintain people in adolescence, it's not surprising that essentially adolescent philosophical philosophy like socialism retains a grip on them. you know, 1970 -- >> tucker: can we acknowledge that steeper than anything that has been said -- so smart! exactly right. >> goes back to what you are saying about family formation. in 1970, 70% of 25-year-olds were married and had a family. and that has fallen by more than half. in other words, the churchill line about how if you are not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, and if you are not a conservative at 40, you have no brain, we actually extended that lower limit.

so by maintaining people as children, until their late 20s and early 30s, why be surprised that something like socialism has gone the purchase on them? >> tucker: it's totally true, but we are robbing them of life's great pleasure which is becoming an adult. >> absolutely. absolutely. that's at the core of it. the solution, if we just had more government credits for this so you could hire somebody from yemen or venezuela to look after your child -- that doesn't correct the problem. >> tucker: no. hiring other people to raise her kids is not the answer, obviously. great to see you tonight. >> thanks a lot, tucker. >> tucker: in case you've been gone the last several years, all official washington who insisted the war russia hoax absolutely real demanding to believe that the investigation into that hoas fake, a conspiracy theory. okay. we'll have details after the

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>> tucker: the russian collusion hoax wasted millions and millions of dollars. much worse than that even come up it wasted a lot of time, the final remaining reservoir of goodwill in washington, congress paralyzed by a witch hunt by traders under the bed. people becloud themselves, the tape will live forever in infamy until youtube describes it, which i'm sure they will in some point. the credibility of the fbi, cia, institutions we need was destroyed. figuring out how all that happened is critical if we want to restore public trust in our system if you want a system worth trusting. but officials in washington do not want that to happen. the hair and feet and without any sense of irony, they are telling us the whole thing is a conspiracy theory. >> the justice department pursuing a criminal investigation into its own investigators elevating what had

been widely denounced as a conspiracy theory. >> a baseless conspiracy theory about the 2016 election. >> he's running around trying to base o on the piercy theories wt happened in 2016. >> traveling the globe in effort to dig up conspiracy theories. >> reviving a discredited conspiracy theory what happened in 2016 campaign. >> look at this "deep state" conspiracy theory, the present has been pushing a long time. >> some of us, saying personal grievances and conspiracy theories that fuel the interactions with ukraine. >> isn't that what got the administration in trouble in the first place? >> it is and it's a conspiracy theory. >> the president says he's a victim of a deep state spy operation in 2016. conspiracy theory that the attorney general has embraced. >> noticed how politicians and journalists use the exact same talking point. congressman devin nunes noticed that, heart of the russia probe at the very beginning.

what washington did to reverse the 2016 election. that story in a new book, the plot against the president in the true story of congressman devin nunes uncovering the biggest scandal in american history, number one inamazon li. thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you. very kind, but there's a lot of people we did a lot of great work. >> i'm going to read it. tell me what you make of journalists in washington demanding that we stop asking questions? our default is we always want to know more. that's our job. yet they are telling us, no more questions! why are they telling us that? >> more than that, it's even worse. you have all the conspiracy theories, they are chasing daily conspiracy theories on these ukraine hooks. what i've been trying to tell my colleagues, if these are mainstream reporters and they are out there asking you questions about conspiracy theories about trump and what do you think about -- did you send

anybody to this place quick to make every day is a new conspiracy theory. when i walked on the hall, i'm not going to tell you in this lifetime or the next, they aren't real reporters. they are assassins, they are spreading it out there. >> tucker: they are dnc operatives. >> sean: >> we need a free and fair press. that's not we have today. >> tucker: i don't know. we aren't rushing to reflect -- i don't work for trump. these people worked on the democratic primary. they are hacks. what do we know on this late date what exactly happened. why did not we see many examples, the full-size applications the fullfisa applications. >> horwitz is gathering all

the -- he said last friday, i believe, it's going to have very few reactions. that would tell me we are going to get to see a lot of that fisa. when you go to the broader investigation, why did mueller spend $35 million and not get to the bottom of what actually happened, and i think this needs to happen. there are investigators and lawyers that were on the steele that also have to be looked at. because if they didn't get to the some of the stuff that horwitz is going to get to the bottom of, we have a lot to be concerned about. just today, in other breaking news, there's always breaking news every single day on the subject, but general flynn who was maligned, and lee talks about in his book the monkey was maligned back in 2014, the maligned and in 2016, had this russian girlfriend, all nonsense. nonsense.

finally today a judge canceled the flynn hearing. i hope the judge will read -- the judge will throw this out. this is not a way to treat a war hero. >> tucker: of course not. meanwhile, he's not the only one. next week, roger stone going on trial and likely going to spend the rest of his life in prison. >> that's questionable. we'll see what happens with that but there's a lot more to learn on that case. >> tucker: congressman, things are coming on tonight. there is something of the revolution underway at nbc news. a couple of networks and hosts are openly defying their bosses, the same bosses who covered up the crimes of harvey weinstein. where is this going? will give you that next. it's the reason you chose to serve our country. so you'd have a safe place to come home to, and eventually, a home to call your own.

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>> tucker: it's been almost two years since report her rowan pharaoh broke the harvey weinstein story. and you lack oppen hein claim no wrongdoing , now the on-air talent over there at nbc appeared to be so angry, they can no longer contain themselves. just last week, chris hayes on the air suggested that lack and hoffenheim's denials denials are not credible, the guy who is opposite o of us in a cloud. watch this. >> accusations of people in authority in this building that

had been complacent in some way in shielding those guys in accountability, those accusations are very hard to stomach. whether rowan we have independently confirmed that nbc news did that. that that did happen, he was told to positive reporting. >> tucker: senior correspondent from variety. thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> it seems like this would be the beginning rather than the end of the conversation. there is rachel maddow, who is the most prominent female anchor at that company saying, yes, it's true. our company copied covered up for harvey weinstein. how can that be the end of? >> she went on her show and she also spoke about this whole saga and spoke about her whole network, she's dedicated three

segments to it and brought rowan farrow on the air who has not appeared much. this cannot be the end of it, the fact she came out guns blazing and spoke out against her bosses, she very much told of yours what the climate is like at that building. that's a huge deal. it's pretty much unheard of for anchors to go on and report about the networks on the air. seen that numerous networks throughout the #formealso movement, this is quite -- when i saw this, i thought to myself rachel maddow knows what her staff is feeling pure they are angry, confused, quite possibly living in a climate of fear for that's what i heard from sources. she's really speaking for her staff as well. >> tucker: it's not a mystery as to how this happened or who did it, noah oppenheim did it,

andy lack did it, you've got noncrazy people at the helm higher up, you got steve burke who is the ceo of nbc universal. why has no one asked them what they think of this and why they are continuing to employ these guys? >> comcast have stood by noaa, they stood by andy lack, when i broke the story of the matt lauer allegations in 2017, they released a statement that we knew nothing about lauer, the woman came to hr, they've been singing the same tune for two years. it's hard now to backtrack and say, just kidding, what we set for two years actually is in the truth. >> tucker: how about oppenheim

shielding products on the air and selling screenplays to hollywood while he supposed to be -- >> that's been a complaint that people have pointed out, that he was a screenwriter of "jackie," and there's been a rumor that rowan farrow has alluded to this, is that why he was in bed with harvey weinstein? that has been denied. comcast has released comcast down my comments in support of that. i think chris hayes, rachel maddow going on air there've been a similar reaction to yie yield. >> tucker: if you're brian robinson, on the treadmill and you look up and this is happening, you think, why do i need this? you know quick snack i don't know. >> i think that's exactly why rachel metal said that. she knows that she's fine. she knows the ratings, shall be protected. i think quite frankly she's

pissed off, this doesn't make sense, i want answers. give me answers. >> tucker: this reflects poorly on everybody who works there. good to see you tonight. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: a former member of a thruple is becoming a former member of congress. an update on the katie hill story. that soon.

>> tucker: katie hill is humbled. but she's not defeated. america's most famous polyamorous is leaving congress their head held high. trace gallagher has the latest on this story. >> following a series of reports following katie hill's so-called thruple with a female contains came reports of an affair that

sparked a house ethics committee investigatg she's ever done but it was best for constituents, community, and hig quietly, claiming now she's the victim of revenge porn, a reference to copper mines and photos that rose along news with her thruple, claimed a smear companion by her estranged husband and political opponents. >> others call it revenge porn. as a victim of it, i can say it's one of the worst things we can do with victims and daughters. i'm grateful for all of you who spoke about it in recent days. >> katie hill also says she's reviewing her legal options, though it should be noted that she admitted to the thuple and

the female staffer who says it was held abusive to them, house speaker nancy pelosi also says that errors in judgment says that she not continue her service as a member of congress. >> tucker: sat she has to play the victim. "hannity" is right now. we'll see you tomorrow. >> sean: tucker, thank you. busy "hannity" tonight, and we start with amazing, great news. the goal blooded, the evil, the mass murdering terrorist known as abu bakr al-baghdadi is now de dead. after a top-secret raid by our elite u.s. forces who breached his compound by force, they chase the cowardly terrorist into a recorder with a dead end. president trump watch the operation play out in real time with a live stream and on sunday morning 9:00 a.m. eastern, he described baghdadi's pathetic final moments. take a look. >> the thug who tried