institutions are a profiteering from football and basketball, that's bringing in all of the dollars payable, the people who bring it and should be able to share in it. >> martha: thank you very much. that's the story everybody. have a great night that we will see you tomorrow. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome into "tucker carlson tonight." not so long ago, cnn president, jeff zucker, gathered his minions on a morning conference call and commanded them to play up the ongoing impeachment proceedings in the house of representatives house of representatives. impeachment, impeachment, impeachment. nothing else matters. yelled out impeachment into your throat bleeds. that's an order. with that, he slithered off back to his layer, deep in the sand and center of the ace caves. of course, the minions obeyed. they were afraid not to obey. but we happen to disagree with jeff zucker. if you are a committed partisan as he has, impeachment often looks like the most important

story there is but if you're not, sometimes it seems like about the fifth or sixth month in sport and story playing out in america right now. there's an awful lot else going on. that's all we've been covering the story on the show which is to say not very closely but tonight is news to report so we want to take a moment to assess what exactly is happening with impeachment. speaker nancy pelosi has announced that later this week, the house will hold a formal vote on procedures that could lead to a formal impeachment of the president at some point. what exactly does that mean? why is it happening? what will result from it? well, all of that unfortunately is still opaque tonight. we are not clear what high crime the president supposedly committed. there are some as a crewman on that question actually even on the left. so to solve the riddle, we are taking in tonight, as we often do you win claudia to mccarty, to the part of yale law school, the oracle of new york. the single most famous bachelor deacon in the united states senate, ladies and gentlemen and gentlemen, mr. corey a booker

who reads to us tonight from his prose titled, politics be. it dimmed the lights. be still to listen to cory. >> i have a job to do which is to hold the executive accountable. politics be. this is our country. this is our constitution. politics be right now. this is a sad day, a sad chapter in american history. politics be. it's time to do what is right. and politics be, i just want to get the truth. i want to do my jobs. i swore an oath to uphold the constitution but i need to do that. politics be damned. >> tucker: a habit. politics be damned. this isn't about politics, cory booker says, it's about doing what is right, as it always is in washington. and if you have any doubt about that, he will say it again and again and again until you are too exhausted or hypnotized to protest which ought to be a

tip-off that in fact the opposite is true. actually, this is entirely about politics. there is no real crime behind the impeachment proceedings. instead, the president's chief offense appears to be disagreeing with policies set by the bureaucratic state from washington. how do we know that? because he essentially admitted it read over the last two weeks, and the house has heard testimony from a diplomat called bill taylor and alexander vin's been paid at their statements, we are told, will sink president trump. it may be. what are they set? they are intense russia hawks, both have testified that they want heavy american aid to ukraine because they want to weaken russia. both of them decides they don't want any in faith in the u.s. about these policies. they said that out loud. in his remarks, he said he opposed president trump's phone call with the president of ukraine for this reason. quote, "i realize that if ukraine pursued an investigation into the bidens in burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would

undoubtedly result in ukraine losing the bipartisan ports. it is thus far maintained. it" the implication is, that would be unexcept both said something almost identical to that. "to restore ukraine's independence, and russia must leave ukraine. this has been and should continue to be a bipartisan u.s. foreign policy goal." in other words, washington may have two parties but only one position on ukraine is allowed here. trump doesn't have it. his phone call was unacceptable because it might prevent america from automatically unthinkingly spending billions of dollars over many years to prop up a country that most americans could not find o on the globe at gunpoint. there's just one problem with this arrangement. voters disagree. we know this because when he ran three years ago, president trump didn't hide how he felt about u.s. foreign policy. he told voters that america was involved in too many pointless wars but he criticized that then president obama for having

better relations with russia. a trump administration, he promised, would pursue better relations with vladimir putin. that may sound shocking but in fact it was not an unprecedented idea. obama ran on something close to this in 2012 and the public supported it then too. he won that it now that same idea isn't simply unpopular in washington, a ruling class considers it illegal. former cia had john brennan put it this way on twitter. "as in previous times of national peril, we rely on military, diplomats, intelligence officials, law enforcement officers, and other courageous patriots to protect our liberties, freedom, and democracy. may they stay resolute and strong despite corrupt political headwinds they face" got that? unelected bureaucrats uphold, wait for, democracy. elected officials subvert democracy. in john brennan's world, the most pressing and imminent

threat to this republic it is voters. charlie hurt's opinion editor from "the washington times" and author of the book still winning. it why america went all in on donald trump and must do it again. he joins us tonight. what you think impeachment is actually about? >> i think without a doubt, it is exactly as you just laid it out there. it is the attempt by the government first, deep state, whatever you want to call it, they will stop at absolutely nothing to remove this president because this president, as you rightly point out, represents what the actual voters wants. you know, i have always said for our kurdish allies, who have fought alongside us for a long time, i will accept the world for them but it doesn't matter. voters are still in charge and that's what donald trump understands and that's why he is carrying out that agenda they got him elected, however unpopular it may be in the state department or wherever.

>> tucker: you've been here an awfully long time in washington covering the news here. when you see two witnesses, and i give all of these people the benefit of the doubt, i'm not saying they're bad people, but they have deeply held beliefs about america's posture toward ukraine and russia and when he knew him them say out loud, without any shame at all, this is our policy, this is our petition, you can't change that, what is out tell you about their understanding of democracy? >> it's completely backwards and of course, as you point out, they absolutely do believe this and they believe that the survival of america depends on upholding their twisted view of foreign policy but again, it does not matter. that's why we see -- you know, all of these witnesses, donald trump really sort of called their bluff when this whole thing began after we've been through all of these other suppose that high crimes involving russia collusion, all

this other nonsense that never panned out. he really called their blouse when they decided to go with this ukraine call by releasing the trench script or the closest thing we have to the transcript of the call so now americans can go look for themselves and see whether there is a high crime here but what we all are seeing now are all these weird -- they are not eyewitness as they are hearsay witnesses and everybody wants to know what john bolton thinks of the call the donald trump made with the president of the ukraine. well, that doesn't change the facts of anything. all that is is john bolton's opinion of it and sure, i will be interested to hear what john bolton's opinion of it is, if he does testify, but that does not change the facts. the facts have been released in the transcript of the phone call and that's the most important thing that matters here but these people -- they don't care about the facts. it has nothing to do with that. it has to do with the fact that they find donald trump so appalling because he ran an

election on promising to get out of situations like this, find alliances in places like russia to kill people like that horrid animal that we killed -- who blessedly killed himself along with his three children over the weekend, with the help of russia, and when this all came out, what do democrats do? what if they complain about? they complained that they weren't informed about it before the raid and furthermore they complained about that donald trump did it advise the russians but he had to advise the russians because we were a threat flying through airspace controlled by the russian so are complaining that there is this coordination with russia and they are doing that because they're going back to this ridiculous talk about how there is collusion between trum trumpd russia. >> tucker: if the collusion produces the dead, then i think it's collusion right there. >> i'm all in. sign me up. still good to see you tonight, charlie.

thank you. senior political analyst here at fox not just for chronological reasons but for reasons of wisdom. what's the point? as a political matter, is the point of impeachment? we are all under the assumption that there will be no removal so why do it? >> president impeached is a president to some extent tarnished and embarrassed so if they can't get him removed, they can at least touch him up a bit in the hope that that will contribute to his not being reelected it. that's clearly what's in play here and you know, the president really doesn't want this. he said it publicly. no president would want to be impeached. this is something they have the power to do. the question is whether they can do so at and at the same time protect democrats in the house whose districts were carried by mr. trump from being damaged politically by the impeachment, which will not go down well in those districts, one presumes, and whether then they have any

hope of getting his impeachment affirmed as to say by conviction in the senate. everybody said it's clear that the senate will not do this. i think it's very unlikely the senate would do this. after all, the president -- that there are 53 republicans in the senate. the president can lose 19 of them. 19. and still survive in office. so a lot of this is about trying to protect his democrats and still proceed with this impeachment inquiry and it's about trying to win over some republicans in the senate and a majority of them can go against him and he still survives so, you know, i think the president is really in pretty good shape here but think about this. if you are a republican in the senate and the impeachment article that conforms to this conversation, it supposedly all about this, it is -- first while you have to kind of interpreted to conclude that he

was demanding a quid pro quo, that is to say, he was going to withhold it in less an investigation was conducted. in the end, the aide was not withheld and the investigation he was insisting upon was it not undertaken so it does leave you wondering, if you are a republican center, are you going to vote for conviction of a man on that basis? >> tucker: so what you're saying, it's a factual matter as distinctive from and that are of intent? >> exactly. it reminds you of th the trump tower meeting in which john jr. expressed the desire and willingness to receive dirt information from these russian representatives who came to see him in trump tower. nothing came of it. and it was considered to be exhibit a and the occlusion case. >> tucker: so he had it in pure thoughts, basically. >> he did and when he he said the possibility that he received so much dirt was transmitted to him, he said i love it. so that looks bad. so the "hannity" investigates with two years with all of these investigative powers at the

disposal of the federal government and they decided didn't go anywhere and that was the end of it so this, in effect, ended up not going anywhere. >> tucker: it is so like this president to lay about himself d demanding us in inventing out and saying treason and they had to be fired and they ought to go to jail and the rest of if it just bluster. it's just bluster on his part. he's inexperienced in foreign affairs. he has this rambling kind of disconnect and conversation in which he says you need to do me a favor and that he mentioned some things and then later on he says we needed to investigate and see about the body and spirit well, maybe he meant that as a quid pro quo, maybe he didn't. it still was interesting, at least a couple of the people, some of those powerful testimonies, have come from people who were legitimately shocked that the president might have a different policy position. >> yeah. one of the things you keep hearing is that the president was disturbing established

foreign policy and that these diplomats and other officials, they represent that. it's as if the foreign policy is not supposed to be set by the president, -- and democracy are no democracy, we have this constitution that reposes the power to set foreign policy in the president so it supposedly is their job to carry the policies that he says for better or for worse. this may -- are not going to get into whether this is good policy or not but the fact that these guys didn't like it is not one matter that should be in play here. it's to be when they act like it's his job to carry out their views. on the gosh. great to see you. thank you as always. while the isis leader, al-baghdadi, is dead, and the credit may belong to some dirty underwear. true story. we have details on the underlayer next. ♪ turn on my tv and boom,

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countdown clock because baghdadi's next location was thought to be imminent. as he said, the fascinating part, the reason the kurds knew where he was, is because a kurdish undercover operative was able to sneak into the cheerleaders compound and steal a pair of his underwear. a rapid dna testing confirms with 100% accuracy that it was, in fact, baghdadi, and a commander with the courage led. a force defenses, told fox news he also had an informant inside the compound during the raid on the state department has acknowledged the kurds played a key role in the operations. u.s. officials say the raid itself was conducted solely by the u.s. military. baghdadi was killed after he fled down a dead internal with three children and detonated a suicide vest. his head remained intact, allowing u.s. commandos to use biometrics, facial recognition, engineer and student dna analysis to then verify his

identity but the identity of the dog who participated in the rate is still classified and despite at least one news outlet releasing it. for those who think it dog doxxing and is fine, he says revealing the name could instantly reveal the handlers name and the unit used in the raid. a big-time securities concern, especially while the unit remains in concealed. >> tucker: is really a story with everything good from dog doxxing to trapped by underwear. that's by the way, why commandos go commando. over the weekend, congressman katie hill announced she was resigning from congress but she was caught in multiple affairs with people who worked for her. it is evident she may have paid off at least one staffer to remain quiet but according to her, she did nothing wrong. only the right-wingers are to blame for what happen. here's what she said. >> to score need a campaign cared about the right wing media and republican opponents

enabling and perpetuating my husbands dispute by providing him a flat form and it's disgusting and unforgivable and they will be held accountable. >> tucker: the press largely agrees so here was a lawmaker who had with her staffers, 22-year-old, and one case, and that's okay. criticizing her is the real crime. >> i think there is a double-double standard on the hill which is one is that within are treated more strictly than men. our president gets away with so much more than katie hill. katie hill had a very promising political future but now her political rise has been cut short by what she calls a smeared campaign of revenge. there was nothing unnecessarily improper about this woman living her best life, it was the person who was the creep but attempted to humiliate her and literally make her lose her job that is the one who is problematic care. >> tucker: this woman living her best life. we really are deep in the age of

euphemism. i hope someone is keeping track of all this because it's just too great. this stuff can disappear forev forever. the senator of the story and deputy managed editing who broke the story that she joins us. thanks so much for coming on. so first for the legal part, i think she's threatening to sue you because you all ran some pictures, one of her naked coming her staffers hair, brushing it in another, where she smoking a bongo naked with an iron cross tattoo, she says that you didn't have the right surroundings. you expect that you will sue y you? >> i hope not that we haven't received any kind of indication from attorneys that she wanted and i don't have any other comment on that. >> waited these pictures come from, by the way? >> i'm not allowed to reveal my sources. >> i think from her sources, she appears to believe they came from her husband so tell us why

you think this was newsworthy? why did you run the story? >speak of the story was not the picture, the story was the multiple affairs, one with her staffer, one with the campaign staffer, that are illegal and unethical, depending on which when you are talking about, and the story was also campaign funds being used to facilitate these affairs and to possibly pay people off and keep them quiet. the story was binge drinking, making someone, a congresswoman, missed flights to and from washington, d.c. as a lot of other issues here that don't have anything to do with the photos and they are being ignored. >> tucker: to me that sounds like a young progressive member of congress living her best life. just kidding. [laughs] so, no. i guess it goes on side. if this were -- if the situation were reversed, it's very easy to see the msnbc

panel condemning this number as a criminal, no? >> absolutely. if it was a republican or a man, especially a republican man, they would be going after them. >> tucker: like. i don't want to get too far out on a limb here. i'm going to be blunt, i can feel threatened by katie hill but you know, i don't get really hurt the republic but i'm wondering if this can be our new standard where we decided not to hassle people for their personal weirdness but the left won't keep to that standard, will th they? >> no. they absolutely want and i don't care what she does in her bedroom either. i care that she holds up to the ethic standards that she was for and i care that she holds herself to the same standard that othe that she holds other e too.

steel and her republican opponents, what was your response to that? >> i mean obviously she is in a bad place for now so i don't want to respond in times but of glorious i didn't like being sneered at some kind of revenge or that right wing conspiracy because of this are simply not what happened. >> tucker: can i just say, i know an awful lot of people on the right and if any of them were ever photographed naked smoking a bond with an iron cross tattoo it would be on the cover -- they'd be done. anyway. oh, yeah. it would be the screen saver of everyone in washington. anyway. good to see you today. thank you so much for coming on. we often tell you about what's going on in california. maybe that's right wing spaded, right? turns out they literally can't even keep the lights on in california's.

it's on fire and has no electricity. how'd that did that happen? we will tell you after the break. plus, 2020 democrats are to dedicated to confiscating your guns. who did that hurt most? we will explore that question just ahead. >> i wouldn't feel safe anywhere without a fire arm but especially here in detroit

>> tucker: california was once the greatest place in the world. best quality of life on planet earth, and now the state is rega really, a state before the industrial revolution. wildfires are ravaging right now and that's happening partly thanks to the decaying infrastructure of the utility giant g and e. in an effort to stop wildfires, they've been cutting out power to millions of people. the company can't keep the lights on or keep track of the quality of infrastructure. but it's very good at impressing california left-wing politicians. the company keeps, by contrast,

partes data on the skin color of its employees and how many of tr supplies come from diverse or lgbtq suppliers. it is a big donation to gavin newsom's campaign. state leaders haven't minded too much as the state reverts back to essentially the middle ages. on fire with no electricity. dave rubin lives in the state of california and he holds the rubin report on youtube which requires electricity and he joins us tonight. dave, thanks so much for coming on. he went to california because it's a beautiful place and i agree with that. you've seen it degrade in the time that you've been there but pg&e strikes me as almost a medical word for the destruction of the state. here's the utility which doesn't really know anything about its own infrastructure of a every thing about the rates of its employees. how do we get there? >> is just unbelievable. i'm in l.a. right now. i live about a minute away from one of the big fires that is still going for it i have friends that are evacuating.

los angeles, putting politics aside, might be the most beautiful part of the united states. the problem right now is that everything, everything, from academia, to public utilities, to politics, everything that goes woke, that goes and buys into this progressive ideology that cares about what contractors are lgbt or how many black firemen we have or white this or asian that, everything that goes that road eventually breaks down. it is not how freedom is supposed to operate. what are supposed to happen -- imagine if your house was on fire. would you care what the public utility or with the fire company, what contractor they brought in, what gender or sexuality or any of those things he or she was? it's just absolutely ridiculous. right now we've got a situation -- course you wouldn't care and we have a situation right now where they -- we are doing preemptive blackouts in this day, which i

think is the 11th largest economy in the entire world, we do preemptive blackouts because they don't want to put too much power -- too much pressure on the grid. try to imagine the absurdity of what's going on here and i hate to tell you but we just don't have enough clear thinking, say, more libertarian or conservative minded people in california to fight with the progressives are doing to this day. >> tucker: if you can keep the lights on and you can't keep the place from burning down, you've reached the point where there is no kind of lying about it anymore. it's falling apart. it's a disaster. it's not civilized anymore. >> you know, if i've learned anything by living in california and los angeles pacific lake, it's that no matter what happens, ideology seems to trump rationality. it in the six years i've been here, the amount of the homeless have expended. at virtually every edge that you get off of there are no homeless people sitting right there or

have built structures at the exit. it's like if raising taxes on everybody and supposedly the progressive policies they care about poor people, if these things worked, wouldn't the places the progressive policies were active at, wouldn't there be less homeless and less gun violence and all the things that they talk about? no. there's always more. this is not a coincidence made the policies don't work but if you just don't really think about them, if you think we just have to throw money at things, throw money at things and they magically get better, while you do whatever you want to do in your life and don't want to think about the issues, that it all works, and that's what we all have to fight. everyone across the country. i think -- i travel the country often and people say to me did come you have to stop the people from california moving here to utah or moving here to denver or moving here to texas because then they bring the bad policies from california and elsewhere. if >> tucker: walls are just not for the exterior borders but that's something to think about. steve, great to see. >> can i at least get on your

side of the wall? >> tucker: [laughs] a to see you tonight. thank you. some candidates running for president right now on the democratic side are openly promising with a privately wanted for years. they want the nra stamped out, they want to ban guns, they may even want to take guns by force. >> the nra has got to go! the nra has got t to go! >> the nra is the worst organization in this country. >> i am a very much one that is against handguns. i know in my urban environment i see little to no need for guns at all. >> tucker: yet. just some rational discourse for you. we don't need gun spread will of course we need guns. you are not allowed to have guns. that's the attitude. the liberals are obviously higher body guards. they had themselves away in the safety of their neighborhoods. what if people can't afford to do that? what would gun bends mean for people who live in, say,

detroit, michigan? this show went to detroit to investigate that very question and here's what we found. >> my name is alayna and i was in the city of detroit. >> alayna is an arms detroit her. >> i keep my gun right here on my leg. >> she chooses to carry a gun to protect yourself and it helped her survive an armed carjacking at a liquor store on the west side pit she was shot in the arm during an attack and she drove herself to the hospital. police never caught the attacker. because they had an ak and i had my glock and it went down. they saw a pretty girl with pink lipstick and they just thought that they could get me and surprise, surprise, i'm stacked. >> tucker: stories like hers are why so many people in detroit have decided to take personal protection into their own hands. you go why did you carry a firearm? >> because i live in detroit.

>> why not call the police? >> sometimes it takes a while. still in detroit's juvenile police jim cried, agrees >> it only takes a minute or less for violence to happen and then it's over. >> tucker: that's why craig strongly supports the right to carry. >> if the citizen is armed, they have a better opportunity of staying alive then if they weren't. >> tucker: issues gun permits anyone in detroit who takes the class and passes back on track. alayna took her class with detroit native, rick. it did a hike out. shoot. >> tucker: the gun rights group named legally armed in detroit, has helped thousands of women get their carry permits. >> we have a growing number of women here in detroit who are learning more about firearms and what it takes to defend themselves. >> do you recommend that law-abiding citizens go out and get that permit? >> if they are law-abiding, they get the training, absolutely.

i particularly show interest in female's who and support seal weapons. >> tucker: nearly one in every ten people has a carry permit. >> we have professionals, we as a house bombs, we have people who are just everyday normal citizens. criminals pray and look for victims and they usually look for those who they believe are defensive. we are talking about women, we are talking about the elderly. >> it there's always going to be crying. there's always going to be the devil coming to kill in detroit and he's not going anywhere. people will still okay. i would rather my dad always says, i'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by six, is that how it goes? i mean, it's what it is. >> tucker: has all goes. alayna is hardly alone. part two of our series on being merely armed in a city of detroit appears tomorrow night. good luck to beto o'rourke to

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>> tucker: jeff bezos' washington post, that's the newspaper that brought you democracy dies in darkness, that has a new idea. get rid of freedom of speech. that's the case made in an op-ed by former "time" magazine managing editor, richard stengel. he says it's time to cancel america's 200 year experiment with free expression. it may have survived a civil war, half a century of communist subversion, but the

first amendment, he claims, has outlived its usefulness paid why? because stengel is worried that in a marketplace of ideas, the wrong ideas or winning bid according to stegall, it's time for the united states to start passing so-called hate speech laws. it america shouldn't drive their standards or rights from the founders or from our own history or even from what our people wa. instead we ought to be taking our tips from the arab dictatorships. this is a direct quote. even the most sophisticated arab diplomats that i dealt with did not understand why the first amendment allows someone to burn a quran. why, they asked me, would you ever want to protect that? "it's a fair question. stengel's wording tells you a lot about the way he thinks. every diplomats are sophisticated. perhaps they went to the same corrupt school that he did or maybe even eat at the same restaurants. if they don't like free speech that it doesn't matter if all of them represent corrupt, backward autocracies. their opinions are worth listening to a bit of chinese

diplomats are sophisticated too appear they read books and attend symphonies. libby stengel will it listen to their views on human rights nex. in the end what is this really about? to stengel and people like him, only respectable people come of that as members of a coastal privilege of pending sitting class, allowed freedom of thought. can you imagine if you try to circumscribe richard stengel speech? you're not allowed to say that richard stengel, we will throw you in prison. what he be for abridging the first amendment then? no. but the rest of the country can only update on on the terms set by him and his friends. right now that's not happening. it america's husk of the country so or to ordinary people are listening to them. if most people don't care what richard stengel thinks. as "time" magazine even exist any more? probably not. it doesn't deserve to pit it was garbage. he's allowing falsehoods to spread on that line pretty said free speech is undermining tolerance and enabling discrimination. that's a smoke screen it he's

literally advocating against free speech but he needs intolerance and discrimination because that's the only way he and his friends can keep controlling you. ♪ recent public polling on the question of free speech shows an awful lot of young americans don't believe in the first amendment. that's not surprising. it cools that has an infection with an extreme mix woke ideology that attacks the freedom of speech and it's not just in reading or social studies, even math is pray to the politics of the left. in seattle at age educators are pursuing a new study spring works that suggests racial politics to multiplication and division for the framer teaches children that math is subjective and of course is a tool used by some racists who oppress others. jason engel is a professor of math at the university of maryland.

he joins us tonight had whatever happened to the party of science? if you get to the point where you don't even believe in math, why should i listen to you? >> for small, we are not saying -- but i don't think anyone in the world is saying that math in and of itself is racist. it's how it's applied. wake with anything, we can say science can be applied in ways they can be racially biased, math certainly can be used as proxies for a way to teach subjects using ethnic studies. >> tucker: a coffee cup could be used as a deadly weapon but we don't teach kids that it's dangerous because it is not inherently dangerous. it could be misused because people are bad, they are fallen, they are screwed up. math is not subjective. math is >> no paired math is not objective but again, i think people are missing the point here. what they are trying to do in the seattle schools is teach kids math and have them learn better and they have seen results by using this ethnic

studies framework. for example, one of the things that happen in san francisco, they studied this at stanford, is that they saw it when they ethnic studies into the subjec subject's, and to their various subjects, they saw a 21% increase in attendance and grade point averages went up by 1.4% >> tucker: that makes me sad because we both know that's not real. >> how was i not real? talk about the results. >> tucker: let's look at the countries that really do well in math. >> showing how you can apply math is what makes you better at math. >> tucker: let's talk about someone who's serious at math. singapore for example return appeared much better math scores and we have. do you think they infuse their math lectures with lessons about racism? >> they may not but -- something tells me you are not privy to the curriculum over in singapore but what i will say

is -- >> tucker: i'm privy to their attitudes which is one of deadly seriousness where kids have to learn or else they will fall behind. >> the point is, if it works, why would we argue against something that's been proven to work? >> tucker: so you're saying -- in talking about racism involving math -- >> increase and grade point average. 21% increase in attendance. >> tucker: but these are schools that in a lot of cases, to california, the overwhelming majority of kids aren't at grade level and mass of the schools are terrible, the teachers are inept, the system is a joke. are these -- >> were not going to disagree further on things that could be fixed. >> tucker: objective tests of ability, not whether the teacher is pleased with the income but whether or not you can understand a mathematical formula, for example, talking about racism will increase their ability? it's because that is what we've seen in the 2016 study from stanford.

>> tucker: why didn't we think of this before? >> you tell me. >> tucker: this is breaking my heart because we both know that in five years, seattle isn't going to be leading the nation in math scores. >> what we want to see is improve bid and have seen it before. they are trying new ways to teach young children of all backgrounds about math and science and any others. it was due in singapore is enough to gain a diverse place paired why don't we just copy what they do if we really want our kids to be good at math? >> i think there has been many different attempts at trying to make i don't think that's any harder than what they are implementing. they tried many different ways and no child left behind, raced to the top, they are looking for ways that work and they have seen evidence that this works. >> tucker: none of that stuff worked. we know that there be can agree on that. thank you very much professor.

coming to catholic high school, nick sandmann nearly had his life ruined for smiling a man being beating a drum in his face. now there's new hope for a lawsuit against "the washington post." the countries most holistic disseminators of lies. that's next. his

>> sean: it's been close to a year since america's entire media class united as one. over the weekend in fact, took time off from doing whatever creepy things they do on the weekend to come together to destroy a few high schoolers from covington catholic high school in kentucky. just on principles paid didn't like the way they looked. and like the cut of their clothes. and now tonight, it isn't renewed hope that the high schoolers could finally get justice from what they went through. this week, a federal judge partly reopened high school or nick sandmann's $250 million lawsuit against "the washington post," a former newspaper, now a purveyor of filthy and dishonest stories. the ruling will allow steadman

to obtain documents from the post which would almost certainly expose wrongdoing by the post. todd mcmurtry is an attorney who represents nick sandmann and he joins us tonight. thanks for coming on here and watch as this ruling mean in practical terms? >> what the ruling means is that we do get to proceed with discovery. although we had overcome some hurdles initially with the court dismissing our first complaint, the judge did allow us to introduce additional evidence, including some video evidence, some additional allegations against nathan phillips, and now we can proceed. we are not proceeding with the full complain that we initially filed, but we are proceeding with a different one. >> sean: there are things you want to learn from "the washington post" paired what are you looking to learn? >> in litigation like this, what we will do first off is we will ask "the washington post" produced its emails, its text messages, its internal messaging, which i think they use something called flak notes,

and they will review that and figure out what "the washington post" was thinking when they republish the false factual narrative -- >> tucker: hold on. you are not allowed to know that because journalism -- to get to destroy that the life of high school kids but you can't find out why they did it. you know that, right? >> well, i think that judge brill's men in kentucky is going to allow us to inquire into what they did so i'm very hopeful we will be able to turn the tables on that equation. >> tucker: this is a paper that is owned personally by the richest man in the world, jeff bezos. this is his form of lobbying here in the nation's capital, really. 250 million. why doesn't he settle with the students whose lives he so clearly heard? >> we have not really sought any opportunity to settle with "the washington post" but we intends to pursue the cases against "the washington post," cnn, and nbc, to see which of

these cases is the strongest and we will take some, if not all of the cases to trial ultimately paired the truth is that attorneys do get to points where they settle in their clients best interest but we are not there year yet. >> tucker: last question. if you found out this information about why the post try to destroy the lives of these kids, you are going to make a public case? >> yes. that type of information is not confidential. it would be made public in court filings and in motion practice that would proceed with this case so we are basically going to pull back the blinds and see what's behind there and i expect we will get a very good look at the thought process of "the washington post" and others as we proceed in discovery. >> tucker: i'm rooting for you. it's disgusting what they did. characteristically disgusting. thank you so much for coming on. i appreciate it. we are out of time. sadly paired we could go on and on and on but the good news is, we will be back tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m., the show that is the sworn enemy of lying,

pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. dvr. msu has an an advanced degree in electronics -- electrical engineering or whatever. good night from washington. sean hannity takes the reins were not from new york city. >> sean: one swamp to the other paired welcome to "hannity." today is day 3 35 of the democrs secret soviet style impeachment coup attempts. although it's really been our goal, think about it, from the day that you come up we the people, elected donald trump as president. breaking just moments ago, the democratic party may be starting to infection at least one democratic congress woman now reporting to oppose the parties latest unfair impeachment measure. we will have a full report tonight from capitol hill but first, another day, secret meeting, secret hearing, secret transcripts, secret whistle-blower in on whistle-blower, here's a whistle-blower, all because of a