to be the me too movement, but that's not the way it sounds. speak to it doesn't sound romantic. all right, we will see you next wednesday, october 30th, 2019 but >> the story: goes on and we will see you tomorrow night. good night, everybody. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to >> tucker carlson tonight: and by the fourth or fifth decade of communism the experiment wasn't working. almost nothing the soviets said was going to happen ever did. people were restless and frustrated, but they couldn't say so and the authorities lost their credibility and they became hysterical in the hunt for deviations and anyone who complained or asked questions was punished but ultimately the authorities decided any disagreement with official orthodoxy was not simply forbidden, it was a form of mental illness. it had to be. soviet medical literature from the 1960s describes

schizophrenic anyone with skepticism of the party line or displayed undue interest in "truth and justice." in other words in the soviet union anyone who refused to lie was by definition crazy. all which brings to mind the increasingly remarkable case of entertainer, kanye west. for a couple of decades that pretty conventional if highly successful career and producer and musician. then the last few years, something changed profoundly. he jumped into the business of social commentary, but not in the way many fans expected. and please have the usual industry improved chronologies of politics and liberation, heat west started saying things like this. >> my father is a black panther and my mother got arrested at the age of six. they were fighting for us to have the right to our opinion, not the right to vote for whoever the white liberal said

black people are supposed to vote for. >> tucker: wait a second there is obviously a mistake here. kanye is a rapper and he has progressive tummy has to be, those are the rules as you know. and there he is criticizing liberals. so what is going on here? there are only two possible explanations for this. either kanye west is kidding, probable, or he's nuts. for a while it wasn't clear which it was. ironic or demented. when west kept saying things like this, it became obvious. he must be insane. >> you have no idea. you would be out here in l.a. on the new york, and they will have you all jacked up on mountain dew. >> people are connected to the idea of having their own land. people are connected t to the surface of crisis, this is the bible belt, this is america. service to god, and, this man is

a danger to himself. and more ominously a danger to ossified consensus which we should never under circumstances challenge or question precisely because it is totally indefensible. kanye west, ladies and gentlemen and imminent threat to the way we do things here. discredit him before he keeps talking. >> wake up, wake up mr. west, wake up, everybody think they are so following the rules of what woke is supposed to be. >> tucker: wait a second, local politics means giving up the right for yourself? that is what kanye west is saying. or trying to say his former friends to drowned out his voice with patronizing fake concern. this is not the same kanye west we once knew. he is struggling emotionally. maybe he has or may be just decided to embrace human autonomy and live like an adult. >> when i was sitting in front of white people and they thought, it would not have thought you would like trump

because of racism. so you mean to tell me i make every decision based off of my color? the most racist thing a person can tell me is that i'm supposed to choose something based on my race. >> tucker: all right, okay it was funny until now. now we've gone too far. daring to declare dependence from self-righteous liberals come up woke. in case that was not offensive enough obviously it is, he went further to cut the gospel album and then attacked americans publisher. >> another thing is this idea of apologizing, we will apologize for running on stage. apologize for wearing the wrong color, and apologize, i have been through too much. and i have found it a three billion-dollar company. and to listen online tell me who

i'm supposed to apologize for? >> tucker: we will not belabor the point. if you are a local liberal, we have tortured you enough. one last sound bite just in case there was a question that kanye west is clinically insane because you would have to be completely, barking like crazy and in a single sentence, crazed family and attacked big tech. that is exactly what kanye west did. watch. >> social media doing more to hurt families than it is to families and families are the key to health. >> tucker: well, clearly this man needs help. so provided, we are joined by zuby from the u.k. you probably know the most popular wrapped artist and good to see you tonight. this guy is clearly nuts. >> he is clearly nuts. he's thinking for himself and encouraging other people to do the same thing. i stand by that 100%. that is what kanye has stood for and people are surprised that he is shifting sides a little bit in terms of the way people view things politically, but ultimately, his message is not

telling people who to vote for, support, what candidate they should go for it. but basically just telling people, look think for yourself. yes, you're not owned by any party or a politician. you have the right to think for yourself, not as a model list. >> tucker: we both know that you're not allowed to think for yourself. let's not get crazy here. i was not quite sure what he was doing until i read this and i'm quoting "democrats had us voting for democrats with food stamps for years, guns and the '80s taking -- planned become alluring the vote and making us abort the children." >> sean: heavy stuff. >> tucker: once you say that, if you've made your point. >> so i'm from the u.k., but someone who is from the u.k. well over a decade since i started anything politically, i have always looked at the fact that black americans vote around 90% for the democratic party. >> tucker: yes. >> which is weird.

i mean, in a demographic group putting that much in favor of one party sort of raises question, especially when you've got a lot of cities where that party is in charge and people are not happy with the way things have been going for multiple decades. >> tucker: that is right. >> and looking at the other side were questioning this allegiance to it. now, myself i'm not a black american, and i don't want to speak for any other people other than myself, but i get that the core message what i put out there and what kanye west and similar people are putting out there. look you need to be conservative and you must vote trump, republican or anything like that. there are alternative perspectives in its okay to voice an alternative perspective without being demonized and attacked. we see what is happening. a lot of stuff in 2018 when he first came out and had positive things to say about trump or about conservative values or anything like that. he got bombed. that is because he is such a

huge cultural figure both within and outside of music. so with someone with its gratitude is saying that in going out there and get is king trending on twitter with the biggest album and the world, that is a threat to a lot of people. it sounds weird and backwards but that is general general note -- genuinely a threat. >> tucker: tell me if this happened to you, rob, of course a threat and a wonderful opportunity for us to hear these issues discussed. we have a narrow range of things to talk about and it would be boring. it would be interesting whether jesus is king but they dismiss him and many others. does that happen to you? >> it does. it does not work on me. it doesn't work on me. anyone who would try to cancel meat is not part of my true audience anyway. so it's not something that i personally fear. i have not shifted much politically over the years but i've become a little bit more vocal about the things i'm

saying. because culture is in a weird place in a lot of ways. >> tucker: yes. >> anyone who goes out there and promotes self-reliance and self empowerment and self improvement and is not trying to point the fingers outside employment everybody else or blame other factors, that person will get demonized. anyone who encourages other people to think freely and not go along with that kind of weird, woke progressive identity politics games being played, especially if you are a minority. it does not matter if a black asian, latino, same thing spoken to people say someone who is, but doesn't go along with all of the lgbt stuff. most people get demonized because it's almost like you are some kind of apostate, trader or something like that. >> tucker: yes. >> so i am followed by black minority conservatives say in the usa. and they kind of come by to me, man, it is tough. >> tucker: i do see why because if i can say, calm,

clear, cheerful, that works. people can hear you. and you succeed. thank you for coming on, appreciate it. local culture is not unique eve. and even barack obama appears that things are going to four. >> this idea of charity and you're never compromised and always political woke and all of that stuff, you should get over that quickly. [laughter] the world is messy. there are ambiguities. people who do really good stuff have flaws. >> tucker: the host larry elder does good stuff and has few visible flaws. he joins us tonight. larry, thank you for coming on. what do you make of this? the former president generally but still unmistakably criticizing woke culture?

>> i think obama believes the party is being pulled to the left with kingmaker al sharpton. obama ran right now, he would be dismissed as establishment. and regarding kanye west commit is one thing to come out as a black republican supports trump. it is another thing to come out as a christian black republican who supports donald trump. remember in 2012, got booed at the bmc and the idea being the capital of israel also got booed. they had a complicated relationship with god. and you have beto o'rourke who say that if church does not accept same-sex marriage, they will lose. so this is a part of that is comfortable with god and uncomfortable with the sport of evangelicals that donald trump gets in very uncomfortable with the idea that his world should be embraced in part because of one place with god. so barack obama to show how nervous he is about the green new deal, $15 minimum wage from

illegal aliens getting health care, decriminalizing illegal crossing, obama's concern about all this stuff. >> tucker: what is interesting that god is still and jesus is still pretty popular in black america. african-americans are still come i think this is true and it always was, the most religious segment of the american population and yet, they vote overwhelmingly for a party that is aggressively secular. i mean, that is a contradiction -- can that last forever? >> it is a contradiction and they do that because racism is the major problem in america. it is a notion driven by the democrats. it is a notion driven by the media. once the democrats relates black democrats realize it is about education commit is about crime committed is about jobs, they will rethink allegiance to the democratic party and that is why people like kanye west and candace owens and brandon tatum are so, so dangerous for the democrats. we won so when kanye west starts

to, jimmy was talking and he says things like that make us abort our babies, that kind of crosses the line from polite disagreement to relay te. we are exposing what is actually going on. that is dangerous when you start talking like that. they are not going to allow that, right, to continue questioning >> kanye west talking about 800-pound healthy in the room which is absentee fs and obama knows this, racism, sexism and the climate change, a said a kid without a father is five times more likely to be poor and committed a crime. nine times more likely to drop out of school. 20 times to end up in jail and the welfare state incentivize women to marry the government and allow men to abandon financial responsibility and yes, it has. >> tucker: sad. interesting. i think this will continue to play out. who knows where it goes from here, but i think it is genuinely interesting. larry, you explain things well,

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>> tucker: all presidential campaigns and make the same way in chaos and sadness. we see kamala harris doomed campaign right now. she has firing staffers, running out of money and it is clear she will not make the democratic nomination. the news does not come as a big surprise. the junior senator from california, but she has not accomplished anything in congress. she is not likable and even end home state. rather than acknowledge this, she decided to play the blame game. biases the real problem. lisa boothe is a senior fellow independent woman's voice. i almost downgraded you but i don't know why. >> i appreciate that. >> tucker: it is great to see you tonight, lisa. what is she saying? >> she hasn't even lost yet and she's already doing the table setting for a loss. it looks like she's taking a page out of the hillary clinton playbook so she blames everybody else for her troubles except herself. i want you to listen to something she said in an interview with hbo. >> what i describe in what i

believe to be the elephant in the room about my campaign. >> what is that? >> electability. >> what do you mean? >> essentially come is america ready for a woman and a woman of color to be president of the united states. >> america was ready for a black man to be ready for the president of the united states. >> in this conversation happened for him. there is a lack of difficulty in imagining that someone who we have never seen can do a job that has been done, you know, 45 times. and not that person. >> tucker: stomach >> it has nothing with ability to connect with voters or flip-flop on medl or criminal justice. it is because democrats voters are sexist and racist's. >> tucker: before we dismiss this out of hand, she is saying the democratic voters are racist. are they? >> okay, let's take a look at the most recent quinnipiac poll. >> tucker: i want to take the

claim seriously. >> okay let's take it seriously. among african-americans, she is pulling 2% in the latest quinnipiac poll. >> tucker: because they are racist obviously. >> 6% and caucasians, 4%. this has nothing to do with that. it is her failure as a candidate. she sent a memo out today to the staffers and toners telling them she is laying people off. she is reshaping her campaign and she will be sending additional staff to iowa and laying off the staffers in baltimore headquarters because she's only at 2.7% of the real clear politics average in iowa. she is struggling there. even in her home state of california, she has 8%. and i want to get to real quick this quote from axelrod who repeatedly needled joe biden. we can pull it up. they have them in the candidate protection program. i don't know if you can do that. i don't know if you can get through a whole campaign that way. either he can hack it or you

can't hack it. if you are worried the candidate can hurt himself, talk to a reporter is a bad sign. clearly we know the obama team tried to push them out in 2016 and 2020, and table axelrod -- david axelrod knows the caliber of a candidate that joe biden h, clearly taking shot after shot. >> tucker: david axelrod is not just some pundit from chicago. this is barack obama's chief political strategist. i mean, this is the head guy in the obama operation who knows biden as biden as well as anybody, sort of misses biden saying the guy isn't ready to be president. that tells you a lot. >> and so does his numbers, he already has $8.9 million on cash right now and 38% of his donors have maxed out. the vast majority of his money coming from big dollar donors. so where will that money come from if he wants to stay in this, you know, what is going to be a long race with a credit pr? >> tucker: that is a good question. i'm not sending him any. >> i won't either.

>> tucker: lisa boothe, great to see you tonight. >> thank you to enter. >> tucker: if kamala harris is getting out, who is the democratic nominee going to be. socialist bernie sanders beat expectations in 2016. can he do it again? take a look at this rally he held in detroit, michigan, watch this. [cheers and applause] >> you are a loud crowd, thank you. [cheers and applause] >> tucker: dana perino joins us tonight. dana, great to see you as always. >> thank you. >> tucker: i ran into a campaign correspondent, i don't have a tangible senses, but who is coming out? who are the candidates? he said bernie come almost 80, just had a heart attack and diss by people like me as unelectable but really it is still the most inspiring canada on the democratic side. bernie sanders will get the nomination he said. i thought that was an amazing

production. what do you think of that? >> i think it is unlikely. i would never say never. i think after he had his heart attack and he came back and he had that quick debate, and he showed he could take a punch, get back up, and he deftly pulled off getting the squad, aoc and the likes to endorse him. that was actually very impressive, strategically smart, they kept it as a secret. america loves a comeback story. the media loves a comeback story and besides, tucker, what else am i going to write about? we were talking about lisa boothe. what else are they going to write about? with that said, bernie sanders goes in the nomination with 15% or goes into the election. he might be able to fight his way all the way to the convention and then he can fight it out, but i believe elizabeth warren has the momentum. bernie and biden have been pretty static in the polls. if you are not moving, you're not able to go anywhere. the only person that moved up a little bit has been

elizabeth warren, and i think because bernie sanders and elizabeth warren so similar in their views and they haven't attacked each other, that warren with democrats who support bernie and more electable option. in the end they will not have a problem voting for her. >> tucker: they won't. they don't see her as they would joe biden, someone who is a front to the values. >> even though she says she is a capitalist, she is regressive. she actually wants to change things. she's a little bit of a disruptor like bernie sanders is. i also think about "the squad" endorsement that bernie, strategically smart to get the nomination, right? however, i don't know any other candidate that thinks that would be a good idea to get "the squad" endorsement going into the general election against donald trump. i think that is probably, okay, fine, bernie can have it. >> tucker: that is a solid point. if it is bernie where you are predicting the odds are it will be elizabeth warren at this point, but if it is warren, they

will have to raise hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to run a credible national campaign. they think they do anyway. where's that money going to come from? they cannot raise it from the finance sector, can they? that is where all the money is spirits because they have grassroots, bernie sanders and warren to come together with small donations so they can show they have the grassroots support behind them. remember when you turn to the general election and you go against donald trump who is well funded and organized, all the combat -- the benefits of the dnc. the dnc democratic national committee, that is your fund-raising arm and the dnc does not have qualms taking money from anybody. they will be the ones. bernie and elizabeth warren or whoever it might be. today i had jim messina with david axelrod, he thinks there will be a late entrance into the campaign and i said, who? he said a lot of people talking michael bloomberg. michael bloomberg could fund it all himself.

i said what about hillary? he said no, he does not think hillary is running. but then we are already here in a year from the election, by next week i'll hear to the election and the democrats are thinking is there anybody else out there? that is not good. >> tucker: that is not good at all. if you watch fox news, dana perino -- dana perino, thank you. >> have a good night. >> tucker: up next, the autopsy from jeffrey epstein's corpse suggest that his death was at least more complicated than initial report suggested it was. they were new developments on that tonight. we will bring it to you straight ahead. plus the series on legal arms in the city of detroit continues tonight featuring another good guy with a gun. >> detroit has a lot going on so sometimes, you have to sit there and wait and hope an officer will pull up in time to stop the situation. ♪

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♪ >> tucker>> i'm trace gallagherd releasing video from the dramatic raid that took out isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi. general kenneth mike enzi the commander of u.s. central command describing al-baghdadi final moments in detail before he blew himself up. general mckenzie addressing the status of the u.s. service dog injured during the raid confirming the dog has now been returned to duty.

away with wildfire burning dangerously close to ronald reagan presidential library and to protect the simi valley hilltop museum with ronald reagan and his wife nancy. the wildfire is fueled by santa ana winds have been plaguing california for weeks. the getty fire in los angeles and vic kincaid fire in sonoma county have burned dozens of homes. i'm trace gallagher, now back to tucker "tucker carlson tonight." the medical examiner's office in new york city ruled jeffrey epstein killed himself in prison in august, but not everyone is convinced that it is true. take a look at what forensic pathologist michael baden told fox & friends this morning. >> i think that the evidence points towards homicide rather than suicide. >> why? >> multiple fractures in the thyroid cartilage that are very unusual for suicide and more indicative of strangulation.

homicidal strangulation. >> tucker: what do you make at this? dr. marc siegel is a fox news contributor in the man we go to when we have questions. doctor, what do you think of this? >> just the point you brought up alone, i would agree with dr. baden. those three fractures and it looks like a lot of force was applied. you can see how extensive that is. so this could easily occur by someone grabbing you by the neck. a fracture here and over here. well, that is the most common way that that happens, tucker, with literally a homicidal strangulation. so that has to be rolled out. now, of course, a lot of other suspicious things taking precipitously on suicide watch after having been attacked. he's put in a room with a murderer, a murder removed and the bunk bed is left there with sheets. water sheets doing in there? there hasn't been a suicide in this prison and only one, cameras are broken, guards falling asleep, simultaneously

and left unobserved for hours. this does not pass the sniff test. so dr. baden and the viewers are right to be saying, wait a minute, what don't we know? was there more dna evidence? he brought up this morning where is the dna evidence on the sheets, under epstein's fingernails? these are questions, but i want to add one other thing. the pathologist ruling on this form of the medical examiner the chief medical examiner in new york is quite reputable. she came back and said, this is a suicide. she better be right because she's putting her entire career on the line here. the determination, tucker, is made by putting a lot of facts together. maybe there are things we don't know that she knows. i want to know what those things are. >> tucker: way with there be things that she knows in the case of this nature? where the public's trust in the system is also on trial, in effect. why would she be keeping facts from the public? >> i don't think she should appear to think she should be releasing the answers to dr. baden's questions.

in other words, was there a suicide note? he supposedly rewrote his will. i want to know, did anybody observe this? were people seen coming and going from the cell? what was the time of death? all of the things have not been released and especially dna issues. whose dna was on the sheets? with only epstein's? if somebody killed them we would see evidence of it. i want this information released. >> tucker: down. >> she can't keep saying it is suicide. i have reason to believe she is credible, tucker. i'm not rolling that out. we went right. >> she has come out and said it is suicide but the public wants to know more in this case. >> tucker: of course in this case, we should have no reason to believe that the authorities are holding back any information that this man is dead. >> by the way sexual predators like this, like this who routinely kill in prison, especially with murders running around. so that is another reason to be suspicious. >> tucker: that's right. >> the bones themselves look

like homicide. >> tucker: yes, one suicide in 40 years. that tells you a lot. >> that was a mobster, by the way. >> tucker: doctor, it is great to see you today. >> thank you. >> tucker: detroit, michigan, the most violent places in the united states, and the place will be there in minutes and that is why thousands of law-abiding citizens in detroit carried their own firearms and defend themselves so we went to detroit to meet some of the good guys who carry guns. part 2 of the series on being legally armed in detroit. >> detroit from emergency 911. >> leapt >> it was a nightmare situation with a concealed pistol license. >> i was arrested, handcuffed and taken to the judge house -- jailhouse. he was home from a christmas party, dressed as santa claus and stopped at a gas station to help a female coworker change her entire. >> individually i approached her

at that time and i physically pushed her and i was intoxicated. i intervened and it was a situation where he wanted to shoot a firearm and we had a shoot out. i was charged with seven felonies for defending myself as well as a friend. >> his church helped him cover more than $50,000 in legal fees. after more than a year in court, a jury cleared him on all charges. >> he is called the santa shooter after arrested for opening fire at saint nick. >> now he wants to go buy a new name, free man after acquitted of all charges. >> like thousands of detroiters, he has a license to carry concealed weapon. >> the police chief has a right to carry. >> there is risha endemic research that citizens fear more than the police. >> the thing about it, when intoxicated, to de-escalate the situation and call the police and the police will arrive in time. >> by the time they are cold it

is usually after-the-fact. so they are reacting to the crime. >> the police department with a task, responsible for a city as large as philadelphia, but with one-third as many officers. >> the police department and staff is based on population. the police are not everywhere of every minute of every day. oftentimes we need to hire more police officers. it is not realistic. >> it is a sentiment echoed by firearms instructor rick. >> a high level of crime here. they will make every effort to get the residence as soon as possible. they may not get there fast enough. >> this is not being a vigilante. i'm not advocating that. but i'm also advocating not becoming a victim. and this is staying alive. let us just the reality. that is anywhere. >> detroit's rate of justifiable homicides killed by armed citizens is 20 times higher than the national average. >> bad guys love gun control. additional legislation, antigun

laws, it will not stop bad guys. >> bad guys, good guy should have the opportunity to have guns as well. >> tucker: he reassured his carry permit after exonerated. he still carries to this day. and identity politics and racial agreements are the hallmarks of the democratic party under de facto alexandria ocasio-cortez but what are the consequences of this for our country? that is next. ♪ (bobby) with your hearing, if you start having a little trouble,

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>> tucker: alexandria ocasio-cortez is the youngest member of congress. she turned 30 a couple of weeks ago. she's barely old enough to rent a car and already she is one of the most powerful politicians in america. 18 months ago, no one in washington had a heart of the green new deal.

today it is at the very center of the democratic agenda. alexandria ocasio-cortez did that so there is a reason she is famous. it's not just type. she's impressive in a lot of ways. even if you disagree with her, you have to admit that. she is legitimately tough for one thing. a pearlescent -- prerequisite for success. and the only democrat in the house who is totally unintimidated by nancy pelosi. when she got to washington party bosses tried to make her martyr -- moderator of use assumption but she refused. unlike most members of congress, alexandria ocasio-cortez believes most of what she says. she understands that something profound has gone wrong in america. the country is dangerously unequally. fixing that will require going to work with entrenched establishment which is profiting from the status quo. alexandria ocasio-cortez is happy to do that. when amazon decided to demand subsidies in order to come to new york, she was one of the very few who asked why we would send tax dollars to the richest

man. when all the fashionable people in the party decided that elizabeth warren should be the nominee, alexandria ocasio-cortez and endorsed bernie. she is an independent spirit, one of the very few in washington. it is easy to see why young people listen to her. and the end, that is the problem with alexandria ocasio-cortez. and her economic views get the attention, yes a wild bad left winger that's pushing socialism on the country. it might be stupid and wrong, we think they are but still undeniably ideas. you can debate them. we often do. the problem is the rest of what she says. there is a darker side to alexandria ocasio-cortez, and it has nothing to do with the greew deal. she is unapologetic - -- unapologetically a bigot, thereg legitimate about that. you can't debate bigotry, it is pure poison. it is terrifying to think that someone who spews open racism has been a role model for the young people, but that is exactly what is happening.

and it has been happening since alexandria ocasio-cortez arrived on the public stage. during the first run for call -- congress, the incumbent who held the seat didn't deserve to be in congress because the wrong race. by election day the opponent was literally apologizing for his own skin color. when he accused alexandria ocasio-cortez of making the election about race, she didn't run from it "it is about race." not so long ago a campaign like that would have been considered deeply immoral. the press would have hounded the alexandria ocasio-cortez until she apologized or dropped out but not anymore. a ruling class no longer recognized as universal standards of any kind. racism, they decided cuts only one way so they ignored alexandria ocasio-cortez race baiting and she got elected. over time like any untreated virus, or bigotry room or inflamed. here is alexandria ocasio-cortez just last week and a public explaining that actually globale change is the fault of a

specific racial group, watch. speak to stomach >> we see it is the fountain of color that may e front of initial havoc of climae change? >> without a doubt, without a doubt. >> in terms of that the people producing climate change, the folks responsible for the largest amount of admissions or community corporation, they tend to be predominately white, correct? yes, every study backs that up. >> tucker: the people that are producing climate change. that is right, those people, the ones destroying the earth driving an entire species to extinction -- extinction, killing children and all those people look alike. something in common, don't they? that is right they are the same color. that is what she is saying. standards have changed so much, it is hard to say something generally shocking in this country anymore, but that qualifies. for all the hysteria that you hear about how the president is a racist, donald trump has never said anything close to that,

nothing close to his bigoted and vicious as that. the people wrecking the world are all one race? who talks like that? in fact, it's hard to think of anyone in american life saying anything that disgusting and foolish and dangerous. if so, exactly what would it be? and yet, here is the amazing part. nobody seemed to even notice when alexandria ocasio-cortez said that in the middle of a congressional hearing. the rulers acted like it was totally normal because to them it is normal. this is an ominous development for the country. talk like this will destroy us. it has come close before as you know. and it is possible alexandria ocasio-cortez doesn't know what she's saying. you would like to think that she doesn't. maybe she is young and lacking wisdom and can't hear herself. the problem is that others can hear her, clearly. every time she encourages her followers to hate and distrust other people based on race, some of them will. and over time, this is how countries fall apart.

so going forward, here is a plea to alexandria ocasio-cortez. keep saying what you think is true. keep taking jabs at the establishment in washington, even those disagree with you will cheer you want to. my gosh, please for the sake of the country and the children you don't yet have, please stop attacking people for the color of their scan. they can't change who they are, and neither can you. we all have to live here together anyway, and we won't be able to if you keep this up. members of congress who abuse the office to enrich themselves and their friends, ilhan omar used campaign funds to pay some when she was having an affair with. how often does this happen exactly in washington? an eye-opening report next. ♪

♪ >> tucker: ilhan omar with a high-profile example of the corruption that flourishes in washington. she is not the only one, but she is the most recent example. omar with thousands of campaign with a company owned by someone she was apparently having an affair with. she's not alone in this as we just said. adam ceo of "open the books" released a corruption in congress. we had this conversation about it. >> you all spent a fairly amount of time systematically trying to track corruption in washington. give us examples of what you found. >> what we did, tucker we

matched of five years of federal government checkbook expenditures with congressional campaign donor disclosures. what we found was that members of congress soliciting for campaign cash from federal contractors that are based in their district. so here is how it works, federal contractors are getting up to, there could be hundreds of thousands of dollars of campaign cash that they are getting millions if not billions of dollars out of the federal checkbook on contracts and grants. >> tucker: though, so you give me money, and then i sent you in return, taxpayer money. >> so here is a specific example. out in connecticut, you have the powerful ranking democrat member on house ways and means, john larson. number one campaign contributor is united technologies purity fortune 500 defense contractor based in his district. the affiliates of united technology have given larson

over the course of his career $377,000 worth of campaign donations. there is number one -- if they are his number one campaign donor. just a couple of moments ago larson was bragging that he brought 90 of the f-35 joint strike fighter military jets and the latest budget proposal back to the united technology, and affiliates make their engines. the president only wanted 78 of those jets. each one, those at 35 cost the american taxpayer $100 million. so an extra 12 jets, $1.2 billion and guess what, tucker, john larson owned the stock of united technologies. >> tucker: this is how we lose wars, actually is went defense procurement is design for the politicians rather than strengthen the forces. >> we found, so a prominent and powerful republican out in

oklahoma. he sits on the appropriations committee. his name is tom cole. and the number one campaign contributor of tom cole is actually at the chickasaw nation. through their affiliates and through the nation directly and their executives and their employees, they have put into hundred and $8,000 into his campaign committee. the number one contributor all-time to him. and in the past five years, $700 million with federal grants. these are taxpayer subsidies into the nation. they have also received half a million dollars worth of surplus military equipment out of the pentagon. they have received military rifles, normal sites. they have received mine detecting sets in mind resistant vehicles, tucker. >> tucker: i'm not as familiar with geography book of oklahoma as i should be, but is there a big mine problem in oklahoma? >> i don't know if there is going to be in oklahoma and

setting landmines on the indian land. >> tucker: right, okay. but if there is one, tom cole has major chickasaw nation is prepared to. >> they are prepared. in these situations always get a little worse, tom is in a safe republican district. he has in the last nine election cycles and four with those cycles, his opponents have raised no money. the chickasaw nation put into hundred $58,000 into his campaign fund, and tom cole has been able through his campaign fund to hire his own private company who runs campaigns. cole's campaign paid $224,000 and then cole private company has paid cole the sitting congressman in the individual capacity over $320,000. >> tucker: dizzying. that is one of my reactions. adam, thank you so much for the work you have done on this.

openthebooks.com" >> tucker: out of time. it happens overnight. we will be back at 8:00 p.m., >> the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. "hannity" is next. have a great night. ♪ >> sean: a fox news alert, it in tonight with a massive, huge mystery out of our nation's capital, washington, d.c., that is literally as we speak reaching a fevered pitch. just to is that hearsay, nonwhistle-blower/whistle-blower tonight, real clear investigations polls ferry is reporting the details of this person's identity. and be very, very clear, line of demarcation. there are things tonight that are so scary that we can report. we will identify them.