to argue in good faith and not assault the other side's character, but meet their ideas and their words. and with the ultimate intention to persuade. >> martha: daniel krauthammer, that is "the story" on november 7th, 2019. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." ever notice how as if on cue all the dumb people on cable news and the democratic allies in congress, for whom they are actually working, they start hyperventilating about the same thing at pretty much exactly the same time. pick your topic. pick the day. it is always the same. only the issue itself changes. today's issue is the identity of the so-called whistle-blower. that is the person who originally filed the complaint about the president's call with the president of ukraine that

set in motion the series of events that are certain to culminate in an official impeachment proceeding. now we are being told that the one thing that we can't know about this whole process is who that person is. who the whistle-blower is. why can't we know that? well, the bettors on television are telling us that we cannot know that because the identity of the whistle-blower is the one thing standing in the way -- standing between that person living a normal life, and that person being potentially injured and political violence. political violence is a concern in this country, as we have said countless times on the show. we are adamantly and totally opposed to it in all cases. in every case. what is so startling is that the people making these claims are not against political violence adamantly and in every case. in fact, in many cases they are for it. we are the people who told you to punch a. they applauded when various members of the trump administration were screamed at and threatened in public places

with their families in some cases. we are talking about restaurants were walking down the street. so these people aren't actually concerned about protecting anyone, particularly people with different political views. they are totally fine slandering teenagers who go to catholic high schools. or peach shops in small towns in indiana. when it comes to people they do not agree with -- making fun of their logo or the ohio bakery that was destroyed by oberlin college, they will charge and there everyone ruin innocent people's lives. it does not bother them at all. but in this one specific case they are telling you, you can't know. why are they telling you that? whenever they are that adamant about something, it ought to be your cue that something is going on here. what are they trying to protect? what don't they want you to know? what are the covering up? in this specific case, what they don't want you to know is that

the so-called whistle-blower might have been motivated by partisan impulses. this might be someone who disagrees with the president's policies. and maybe that is what this is really about. a policy disagreement. it is not about standing up heroically for his country. it is about undermining a democratically elected president with whom he disagrees. they are swearing that that is not the case. nancy pelosi up there telling you, she is praying for this country. and nothing makes her sadder than seeing the president impeached. this is terrible for all of us prayed we hope it is over soon. and the person who did this did so, the whistle-blower did so at great personal risk. we are hoping he can get through it. he is just doing the best he can for america. and by the way, maybe that is true. but maybe it is not true. maybe the whistle-blower is just another nasty little partisan. like so many of these people, like virtually everyone you seed maybe they are lying to you.

you can't know. and you won't know until you find out who the so-called whistle-blower is. that's why they are hiding him. that's what it's really going on here. peter vanburen has watch things like this for a long time. a veteran of the state department. a whistle-blower himself, he joins us tonight. thank you so much for joining us prayed >> thank you. >> tucker: as someone who actually was it whistle-blower and who rode extensively about it, i think it is fair to say that you were punished for it. >> absolutely. >> tucker: what do you make of this? did any of the people ride to your aid? >> no, absolutely not, and i want to say is a whistle-blower who chose not to be anonymous, i am well aware of what being public on this can lead to, but in this specific case, it is very difficult, because as a whistle-blower i want to protect the process. anonymity can be such a critical part of all of this. but in this case, the whistle-blower is not anonymous. his name is available to anyone

with google. and it is not clear that he is a whistle-blower. he did not reveal information at personal risk. he did not give us information that we do not have. he basically reported cord or gossip. and at this point, his anonymity is in way against the value of knowing his motives and the process that brought him to us. and when you weigh that against the benefits of exposing the process. he needs to stand up as a patriot and say, here is why you did it. here's how i did it. and put himself where his mouth is. >> tucker: that is kind of it. i guess, there are two traps. the first is that there is value in attaching your name to your views. this is a free country. we say that a lot. let's make sure that it remains a free country by openly stating what we believe and our disagreements with the status quo. and in the trust that we can still do that here. but second, the rest of us who are thinking that the government is irredeemably corrupt, we

cannot trust anybody, when it we benefit from transparency here? >> we will be the ultimate judges of this. the processes partisan enough that we know what will happen in the house, and we can predict what is going to happen i in the senate. but year from now we will vote on whether donald trump should have a second run. and whether the whistle-blower is a patriot or an agent who set up the whole thing teed it up for the democrats is what separates righteousness from a coup. and we need to know more about him and why he came forward and how he came forward so that next november when we judge righteousness, we can do that with all of the information. >> tucker: that is it right there. >> that is the relevancy. >> tucker: the name is not material, necessarily. it is who he is, what his motives are. it is a context that is missing. >> tucker: his name is fred or john or steve is irrelevant. what is relevant is how did this

court ordered gossip be a whistle-blower's complaint, and how did it go through the bureaucracy where it acted as nitroglycerin to trigger an impeachment? that separates the real from the political, and we need to know that. that is what is relevant, not that his name is this or he lives over here. but what brought him to us? this process is critical, it is at the heart of our democracy. we are talking about unseating a president in the middle of a campaign. that is a serious act for a nation. and to go forward on that was how many back in the shadows whispering hey, i heard something does not seem consistent with our democracy. >> tucker: it doesn't. i have to ask you a personal question. now that whistle-blowers, it is a sacrosanct category, which is fine. i'm for whistle-blowers actually. has anybody congratulated you? >> maybe the call came in while we are talking. but unfortunately i've been

disowned by the left. people that i used to consider friends gave up talking to me. people that i used to consider colleagues at the state department gave up talking to me. and even after the amazing work that other whistle-blowers have done exposing the nsa. exposing what has happened in our wars, i am afraid that we as a group generally remain pariahs. right now there is a celebrity whistle-blower that is taking the attention. but i suspect at some point the system will configure itself to wonder what his motives were. >> tucker: sad, but not surprising paired peter, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: before the contents of the whistle-blower complaint were known publicly, a democratic congressional staffer contacted the former american ambassador to ukraine to discuss what the staffer described as "quite delicate and time sensitive questions" that show has obtained an email from that democratic staffer for the house foreign affairs committee sent by private email to the former american

ambassador marie yovanovitch. she is now a key player in the impeachment probe, and was called from her post in ukraine by president trump in may of 2019 following allegations of serious partisanship and political bias. in the email the democratic aide says this "i am waiting to see if you would have time to meet up for a chat, in particular, i am hoping to discuss a ukrainian oversight question. i hope to ground troops the pieces of information with you. some of which are delicate-time sensitive. and we want to make sure that we get them right." that email was sent on august 14th. that is two days after the whistle-blower complaint was filed and a month before that complaint became public. the whistle-blower went to adam schiff's team before filing a complaint. the question is, did schiff's office tell other democrats what was in the complaint? how long did this effort play

out in secret before the rest of the country learned of it? we asked the democratic spokesperson for the house foreign affairs committee about this, and here is the response we got. "the committee wanted to hear from an ambassador whose assignment was cut short under unusual circumstances. the staff outreach was part of a months long effort that culminated in the september 9th launch of an investigation into these events." while congressman asked ambassador yovanovitch about the email. and yovanovitch claimed that she never personally responded to it. never responded to the democratic staffer. in fact, it turns out that she did respond. in fact, she said "she looked forward to chatting with you" to the staffer. and as congressman pointed out, the original answer that was dishonest was given under oath. so maybe she will get hauled and took court like roger stone and threatened with life in prison? ha! just kidding. meanwhile we have an actual

whistle-blower in media world, that whistle-blower works for "abc news" and leaked and off air tape of an anchor amy robach talking in very frustrated tones about how her employers at abc news killed her story on billionaire jeffrey epstein. why did they do that? it would be interesting to know, whoever leaked to the tape, they went to work at cbs where apparently it was a woman, she was located cbs and abc got together, and they found her and they fired her. so in other words, those two networks spent a lot of time finding the person who embarrassed them and no time at all figuring out who covered up for a and why. that tells you a lot. it doesn't it. author of the book "panic attack," joining us tonight. even by the standards of the press, for whom i literally have no respect at all. and i could not have more contempt for the television

network than i do. and i say that working out almost all of them. this seems especially low to me. >> oh, my god, it is horrifying. it speaks to something that i mention on your show, people that work at these networks who want to practice real journalism's who are reporters and journalists who have interesting stories and want to hold the powerful accountable, and get stymied, stopped, obstacles put in their way by powerful bosses who are apparently listening to people like harvey weinstein, listening to the british crown in this case. there was some concern that the reporting on epstein involving chris andrew, they would not let you do an interview with kate middleton or something. >> tucker: a dingbat from a foreign country did not like it and suppressed a real story about a pedophile. and we still don't know who did that and why, but luckily, the low-level staffer is fired. >> they are punished, that is media solidarity, they are two tribes, if you are in the media tribe and you cross them, they are going to hunt you down and

they will punish you for this. i mean, it is incredible. >> tucker: i am saying having been in this business for 28 years, somebody as aged as i am, i said, you know, i used to feel bad when media companies collapsed because so many are collapsing, i don't think i do anymore. they are so rotten you cannot defend them! >> do they see themselves as news outlets or just entertainment? we want to give you more fluff pieces about how the british royals are living or what celebrity -- >> tucker: how about this, don't cover up for the pedophile. can we draw the line there? >> this is an interesting story with huge consequences. people wanted to know about that involve powerful people on all sides of the political spectrum. this is not a polarized story in some sense. that people that epstein was involved with, we don't know the extent, and we may never know, unfortunately. they were not interested in doing more reporting on this because of threats from other people! do bosses not back up their

journalists anymore? or do they not do it in tv? >> tucker: it so interesting, because fox is the only channel pursuing this. so you had abc clamped down completely. they called over to cbs to make sure that they fired the employee who leaked it. meanwhile, cnn, jeff zucker's network, and nbc, noaa oftentimes network are not covering this. so all of them are covering up for jeffrey epstein. >> and i don't believe that, because they were happy to have michael avenatti on to talk about julie swetnick and so forth. you know what i mean? we cannot report this because we don't have it 100% verified, that does not always comport with their standards for how the news is covered, right? >> tucker: yes. the only winner is amy robach. meanwhile the celebrity anchor having dinner with jeffrey epstein, she is trying to report on it. they are thwarting her. i hope she is rewarded in some way? robbie, thank you. up next, we are joined by the

former attorney general of the united states jeff sessions for his first interview since he left the department of justice department of justice. addressing recent rumors that he may run for the senate starting fairly soon, like tomorrow. we will find out in just a minute. that is straight-ahead. less addiction wreaking havoc on this country. nobody talks about it. we will. tonight the first in a series of interviews with people who have gotten sober. how are they enjoying it? nfl hall of famer donate here tonight. stay tuned. ♪ here, it all starts with a simple...

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the united states. now he is speaking on camera for the first time since he left the trump administration. if there are rumors swirling that he could run for the senate seat that he held for two decades. will he do that? jeff sessions joins us on set tonight. thank you for coming. >> thank you, tucker, good to be with you. >> tucker: are you running for senate? >> yes, we will file papers tomorrow. >> tucker: you are running for the seat that you held. after the coach of the alabama football team, the most famous person in the state. do you regret leaving in the first place? >> i had a great tenure at the department of justice and so many different ways. and i don't ever worry about regretting things like that. we were able to serve. we were able to push the trump agenda, and do it in an honorable way. and it was a great experience. i spent 15 years in the department, so, and i do not regret that. it was an honor to serve, and i am, it is not my seat in the senate, but i believe that i

have something to give. i have some convictions that i think need to be pushed. we need to get some republicans moving. they have not been pushing hard enough to advance the trump agenda. so that's what i look forward to doing. and i think i can contribute to that. >> tucker: politics intruded on your tenure at the department of justice paid we can get to that in a minute. but it raises your relationship with president trump that you brought forward in a political ad. i don't think it has appeared anywhere but here now. >> did i right a tell-all book? no. oh did i go on cnn and the attacked the president? no. have i said a cross word about our president? not one time. i will tell you why. first, that would be dishonorable. i was there to serve his agenda, not mine. second, the president is doing a great job. for america and alabama, and he has my strong support.

>> tucker: he has your strong support. do you have his strong support? >> i hope so, i think he will respect my work. i was there for the trump agenda every day. i was in the senate, no doubt about it. i was the first republican and senator to endorse him. we pushed the immigration agenda. the trade agenda. and began to work for a realistic foreign policy. it does not get us in endless wars. he was right about all three of those. that's where the american people are, and this republican congress. and the whole congress needs to listen to that. >> tucker: ironically, you are one of the very few people in the administration who agreed with him on his signature issues. most didn't and work to undermine him for three years. but you got into russia, he was furious about that, do you regret that decision? >> no, i did the thing that i had to do about rules and the department of justice. the senior advisors told me that

this is what the rules require, the regulations required, and i read them, and i don't think there was any doubt from me. but i know how painful it was for the president. this is the whole thing was very painful for him. and he saw this as a pivotal moment. but painful and prolonged as it was, it did clear him of russian collusion, and i'm certainly glad that that finally happened. >> tucker: he is very popular in the state of alabama, as you know. as your ad suggests. you don't want him to come out against you, of course. are you going to talk to them about it? >> i will. and i look forward to having that opportunity and having provided it at this moment. but i would like to be able to go to the people of alabama and tell them with all honesty, i believe in this agenda. i was for this agenda before president trump announced, and i supported it when he was president, when he was resin rug for president.

i supported him. and if i return to the senate -- no no senator will be more for advancing trumps agenda than i will be. >> tucker: i believe that. i was there, and you were making the same case that you are making now. what about your fellow republicans who remain in the senate? do you think after three years they buy the trump agenda? >> i think some of them are still standoffish. and some of them almost give the impression that maybe he will just fail or it won't happen and we won't have to deal with it. but ending lawlessness at the border is a bipartisan overwhelming issue. standing up to china and defending american manufacturing. standing up against cheating and fraud and abuse is a bipartisan powerful issue. trump is right on both of those. and fighting her own words. i saw that veterans opposed military effort in our rack not

justified by 64%. american people think that we are too committed into many endless wars, president trump is right about that. so i think this represents some change for the republican establishment. and many of the democrats, totally opposed to it. but we should be able to put together a majority, and we should drive this issue. we can take it to the american people. and name names, and show who is for what. and make them vote. that's what i would like to see us do. >> tucker: naming names would be a great public service. quickly we move from russia to ukraine, the president is going to be impeached, what do you make of that? >> tucker: i cannot point -- >> i cannot see an impeachment case here, a continuous attack from day one, things that people have done that are perfectly innocent, i felt some of that myself or created and twisted to be something evil and improper. and the president has conducted

himself in this matter within the law, and i don't believe that there is anything close to an impeachment case. i think the democrats will basically vote it. it looks like pretty slink away, and let the senate rejected. >> tucker: senator, attorney general, and now senate candidate jeff sessions, thank you for coming on tonight. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: presidential candidates crisscrossing the country in private demand private jets to lecture you about global warming and your carbon footprint! yeah, the great mark steyn is here to assess everything in the past week. that is worth it. we will be right back. ♪ home ownership means something different to veterans. it means freedom.

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♪ >> tucker: well, the world as you have heard is going to end in 12 years, if not sooner unless you immediately ditch your car and start eating insects. that's what the presidential candidates of the democratic party are telling us. they are very concerned, but not so concerned that they won't stop flying private. so we have an idea for them. we are calling at the 2020 tree challenge. and it will compensate for greenhouse gases they are spewing into the atmosphere every time they get in their jet. plant a tree for every mile you fly private. it is really a request/demand. plant a tree for every mile you fly private. it's not hard. and if you care, you will.

the author of "chronicles." and he joins us tonight. thank you so much for coming on. so even those of us who are skeptical of the details of some of the climate theory, and a lot is theory. can get behind the idea of planting trees. there is no downside to planting trees, so why one at these candidates take us up on our tree challenge? >> well, not only that, but nuclear power, the nuclear power and planting enough trees, let's say across the entire world the size of canada would offset the carbon dioxide production by mankind. and the question is, why would you not try that? it is much less expensive both ways, for one. there must be some other reason though. and you know, there are times -- >> tucker: what do you think that is, joe? >> well, we both know what we believe it is. but i don't think that they want

this to go away, i think there is only one answer that they want, and this is a new green deal, we can all get behind. let's plant more trees. and by the way, it is fascinating watching this, because you know, plants grow best at about 1500 parts per million of carbon dioxide. and we are currently at 410 parts by carbon dioxide. there is a natural synergy between animal life and plant life, probably somewhere in between. because animals inhale more carbon dioxide then they inhale, you are a carbon pollutant organism, you are. they love that. they get that and they grow. in fact, tucker, it is getting dangerous out there. i have trees trying to hug me. because they know human beings, well, they don't know that, but the fact is that the planet is now greener than it has ever been in the satellite era. a circling back to will help

her, this is exactly the point that he was making. we are pulling out of a co2 drought, the climate optimum is the best time for life on the planet is a little bit warmer and more co2 in the air, and that has been established from the key illogical history. so why do we go and spend $10 trillion to save .01 celsius over 30 years when we can try this? >> tucker: there is no downside to planting redwoods and eastern white pines. it is all good. of course it does not increase their power. so i doubt they are for it. but we will keep pressing on our tree challenge. joe, thank you so much for coming on tonight. >> i'm going to plant a tree as soon as i get home tonight paired how's that? spewing good for you. keep in mind the left is not demanding you give up steak dinners and plastic straws. now over at "the huffington post," this is the most ludicrous site on the internet. demanding that you cancel

thanksgiving dinner too. cranberry sauce and mashed potatoes are bad for the planet! said the unhitching don't act unhappy rich kids, says mark steyn, he is our favorite guests. and he joins us again tonight. great to see you, mark. what do you make of this as a naturalized american, you are all in on thanksgiving, but the native born entitled kids at "huffington post" are against it, what does that tell you? >> i love thanksgiving, it has something real at the heart of it. it is the biggest travel day of the year, because this is a big country, so grandparents in florida, and grandchildren in alaska. so it is a one day of the year that they do actually take a plane to go home for thanksgiving. and "the huffington post" says you shouldn't be taking a plane. you shall not be eating a turkey. eating a turkey is bad for the planet, even though it is not as

bad as one of these flatulent cows that aoc wants to slaughter. but it is not as good instead of having a stuffed turkey, you should have some arugula stuffed with kale or kale stuffed with arugula. makes no difference, taste just as lousy either way. and you should not fly. we just had a situation today where michael bloomberg is about to get into the presidential race. there is a guy who served as mayor of new york and almost every weekend took his private plane from new york city to his home in bermuda. if he was to take the tucker carlson 2020 tree challenge, you would have to infill the atlantic between new york city and some have said bermuda to plant all the trees for all the private flights he has flown. the whole thing presupposes that there is a natural ruling class that is entitled to rule differently from you.

meanwhile at the time when the american family is increasingly atomized, the one time of the year that they all get together should be abolished. spewing that is exactly right. attitudes are completely medieval. >> yes. spewing mark steyn, great to see you. by the way, hosting the show the day after thanksgiving, speaking of thanksgiving. >> that is one real black friday, tucker. >> tucker: that was good. >> bargain guest host! >> tucker: that is not true. we are grateful you're doing it. mark steyn, good to see you tonight. >> thanks a lot, tucker. >> tucker: substance abuse addiction, one of the key issues facing this country, does not get the attention it deserves, but undergoes a lot of the disasters unfolding. you certainly know someone affected by it. excuse me. after the break we begin our month-long series on addiction and sobriety in this country. we hope you will join us for that. we will be right back. ♪

spend less than 20 years into the new century, 19 to be exact, and sometimes it feels like america is beset by a stunning array of terrifying social problems, collapsing families, idle men, raising suicide rates. these are not small things, they are big society trends. and on some days they seemed intractable. what is causing them? it is complicated. but there is at least one thing that all of these slow-moving disasters have in common. they are all to some extent driven by addiction. nope he wants to say it out loud, but an awful lot of americans are not in their right minds a lot of the time. they are hooked on something. you have seen this doubt, they are grimly familiar at this point, all part of the story. america loses more than 70,000 people every year from drug ods. the death rate from overdoses has tripled in the last two decades and is driven by an explosion in opioid abuse. you know all of that.

but it is not just spent and all that is killing americans. abuse of traditional drugs is also rising. the death rate from cocaine overdoses has risen by over 100% since 2003. and of course there is alcohol that will always be the most abused drug in the west. thousands of americans will die this year from the cumulative effects of beer. so why is this happening? and what can we do about it? a lot of people thought about this for a long time, and the truth is, nobody is sure. but what we do know for certain is that people who are determined to get sober have the best chance of getting sober. but in order to break free of addiction, you really have to want it. you have to want it badly. and that raises a deeper question, do we really want it? is sobriety still a virtue in america? and by the way, should it be a virtue? is it worth being sober? we think that is an issue well

worth talking about and exploring at some depth. and so over the next several weeks on this show, we plan to do that. we will talk to people, some well-known people who have fought for sobriety and won it. and we will ask them a simple question, was it worth it? what is your life like now? we begin the series tonight with a conversation with a football great joe namath, author of the book "all the way, my life in four quarters." you write about your struggle to get sober. now that you are, was it worth it? >> oh, yes, sir. yes, sir. big time worth it. i have had some experiences throughout my life, and been knocked down a few times, certainly in sports, but a major part of it is knowing that there is a whole big game of life that is a team effort. and having had some struggles, i have reached out and received

some education and help from other people, and man, i am around and willing to help whomever i can. >> tucker: how do you feel? do you feel different now that you are not drinking? >> well, um, yeah. i feel different. i feel good about myself and the effort, because i know addiction takes place throughout our lives, or can take place. many people can be brought to their knees for a variety of reasons. and i think we all can actually. and addictions come in different shapes, forms. alcohol is one of them, certainly. oy p is another one. every day sugar, you can consider that kind of an addiction and the kind of foods that we eat. yeah, man. so getting an education and getting help is important.

and i think, i know we have one instrument. we are the only one that can take care of this body and mind of ours. we need to put the effort in and recognize the importance of how we take care of ourselves to be able to take care of the ones that we love and be a part of their life in a loving way. >> tucker: what was the key for you to getting over your addiction? >> the key was love for my family. it was an embarrassing moment that occurred after i had been sober for a number of years, i was challenged originally by my wife when my first daughter was a year and a half old to go get help. and i did not think that i needed help. i figured i could quit. and i didn't quit. so she challenged me again, and

i promised her that i would stop. and this was dealing with alcohol at the time. and i became what i learned through alcoholics anonymous, that i became a dry drunk for 13 and a half years. i did not have a drink, man. and then i found an excuse. i found an excuse, i learned going through a divorce was an excuse for me. i was caught later to go back and drink. and i did that until i had an incident with a young lady that was during a football game at halftime experience, and at a jets game. i do not even remember. the next day i found out about it. and i let a lot of people down, including myself with that kind of behavior. and i did reach out to get help. and i went and got an education. and i am so thankful for it

today. and you know, tucker, one of the good things about this that i've experienced being an athlete and being out there in the public over the years, i will go through airports, man. i will go to the grocery store, people come up to me. hey, joe, how are you doing. fine, and then they lean over and whisper to me, i'm a friend of bill's. i say, hey. you don't have to wister we are in this together. that is a good thing, man. and i do like to help out and encourage people, and i have learned good vibes, good vibes and a smile. that is healthy. that is healthy. i want people to treat me, treat my children the way that we treat one another. and i've been lucky. >> tucker: there is nothing shameful about getting better.

joe namath, a great man in a lot of ways. thank you for joining us tonight. i appreciate it. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: it is worth it says joe namath. clear headedness. not easy to get, but it is worth it. the first and what we hope will be a long series on sobriety in this country. how to get it. why it is worth having. up next, students and california's public schools cannot read or write well, but pretty soon they will be able to define heteronormative. success? we will tell you after the break. ♪

♪ >> tucker: only about half of students in the state of california to meet english standards. even fewer than that can do math. before california's leaders lost their minds, they would've been

concerned about this. that is a sign that their schools are failing. they no longer care. california has just changed what it teaches. it does not bother with long division. education is no longer the point. it is about indoctrination. we know that because the state has laid it out there. of the state is planning to roll out an ethnic studies requirement for students. you can imagine what those classes will be like. you don't have to imagine, we arty know. a model curriculum for the program a handbook from vox.com's hr department, definition of hell, colonial holiday, and agenda meaning, whatever that means, post focused on the intersectional roots. describing capitalism as a form of power and oppression, -- many of california students already taking cases the women classes on ethnic studies. and long tail, requiring students to write breakup letters from various forms of

oppression. leading to the d dehumanizing effects of masculinity, and assuming that they can write a sentence in english, which they can't. it sounds like a joke, but it is not a joke. this is the public schools curriculum in the large estate. heather mcdonald, the author of the book "diversity" joins us tonight. what exactly does this pretend? the largest school system in the united states is teaching this, where does this put us ten years from now? >> it puts us at the bottom of the international arena in terms of education. this is not just california, i wish it was so that people can move out. it's happening in iowa. it's happening in indiana. it's happening in arizona. these are red states. we are falling further and further behind our international competitors. just this week national standards came out, reading and math is down across the board. direct with the greater the

schools get politicized -- >> tucker: we used to care. i remember liberals used to say we are losing to norway, taiwan, whatever. we are not competing anymore. the whole system is racist. hide under the bed, facts don't matter. >> yeah, obviously more concerned with a phony narrative about america. this is about as they say an ethnic studies decentralizing whiteness paid what does that mean? it means that every person by virtue of being white is an oppressor. so i laid off kentucky coal miner has more power and privilege than barack obama or eric holder because he is white. all white people it is the very definition of racism, tucker. this is a cold war on the grounds of race. and we are at an emergency level now. because this is poison being poured into the body of politics and will and every single standard. parents have to pull their kids out of schools. we cannot give them the cannon fodder for this type of racial division any longer.

homeschool, i would hope that these donors that are pouring multimillion dollars into over endowed colleges, i was just at yale, which is the height of privilege, would instead start creating schools that respect knowledge. that respect the tradition. that are factually based. any educator who purports to claim that the west and america are the source of america's oppression showed on that ground alone be fired, because that is proof of complete ignorance print historical ignorance. it was the west to that broke of tribalism, of colonialism, of slavery, and gave the concept of individual rights to the world, and today the places that are still practicing slavery,, homophobia, it is not america. it is not the west. it is the third world. >> tucker: we should seek help immediately. i'm serious. it's great to see you. much more to come, we will be

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>> tucker: note time for final exam tonight, bret baier competes against his college roommate. someone you've seen before but didn't know who he lived with. >> sean: i'm betting on the roommate. fox news division hates fox opinion division, i'm going to bet on the other guy. i'm sandwiched between you and laura getting in trouble every night. >> tucker: i'm a peacemaker. >> sean: right. welcome to "hannity," breaking tonight. major shocking new detail surrounding the nonwhistle-blower whistle-blower, including more damning evidence that his attorney is nothing more than a deep state hate trump political hit man, plus we'll address the radical socialist democrats running for