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>> now they have got your fortunes and your money, t managers and their p.r., and they are getting richer faster and faster and faster and everybody else is getting left behind. the wealth tax, the 2% wealth tax, god, i love that wealth tax. right? i'm not willing to give up and let a handful of monopolists dominate our economy and our democracy. it is time to fight back. >> tucker: it's time to fight back against the monopolists who dominate our economy! sound familiar? actually, that's not too far from whatt donald trump ran on n 2016, back before paul ryan and the ayn rand people got a hold of his economic program. this time around, elizabeth warren plans to steal that message, the trump message. warren claims she is the radical populist. c she is the disruptor. but is she? let's see.

emily tisch sussman is a woke liberal who often appears on television to talk about democratic politics. she is the daughter of two billionaires, so you would think that she would hate elizabethh warren. but shee doesn't. instead, she demands that you support elizabeth warren or else you are sexist. watch. >> i actually overheard someone say what i thought was an interesting point, that basically if you are supporting sanders as opposed to warren, it's kind of showing your sexism because she has more detailed plans that have evolved. i thought it was an interesting point and i think there might be something to it. >> tucker: right. if you don't support warren, you are sexist. keep in mind, you saw one of the richest people on planetl earth demanding that you support warren for president. surprising, right? it turns out most of her supporters are the very people she claims she wants to fight. that's weird. so for example, in the third quarter this year, elizabeth warren raised more money from silicon valley from those monopolists she claims to

hate than anybody else running for president. spotify's ceo is an elizabeth warren fan, so is silicon valley venture capitalist and billionaire, chris socca. then last month, charlie over on fox business reported that elizabeth warren's campaign is making overtures to finance moguls on wall street seeking contributions. some of them are responding. wait a second, why would elizabeth warren's enemies, they've got to be her enemies, she attacks them all the time, why would her enemies w fund her campaign? we will give you five seconds. they aren't really her enemies. they understand that warren doesn't really meanha what she says.n' they know warren's populism is a facade and underneath it all she's really just this season's hillary clinton. faithful party robot, stalwart defender of the establishment, that's what it seems like she

really is, is she? john mccarthy suspects she might be and he's a publisher of harper's magazine and he's been the publisher there for more than 35 years so he's watched a few democratic candidates in his ttime. he's got a new piece out for the spectator in which he describes warren this way, as a left-wing populist for people who don't want left-wing populism. warren, he writes, may be more like hillary and anyone dares to say aloud.d. when the two women talk on the phone, as they do, maybe it's more about power than about good government. he joinsn us tonight. thanks so much for coming on tonight. so you have watched this carefully. you sound, by the piece, like you are you are sympathetic to the idea of an authentic economic populist running but it sounds like you don't really buy what elizabeth warrenau is selling. why? >> because she's already announced to the regular democratic party,au and i'm talking about the barons of the democratic party, the people who really run it day to day, the clinton, obama faction, their

lives off wall street, that she will not poach on their turf in terms of patronage and fund-raising.ch she signed a pledge that was put out by the association of state democratic committees saying i won't argue with you, i will be a regular party liberal, i will respect the party protocol, and i won't poach on your turf. i think she's being, to some extent, promoted by the establishment party to kill off sanders. her job one is to kill off sanders, so she's playing a double game. on the one hand, she mimics sanders, she's copying him to a tee, but on the other hand, she goes around loudly announcing that she's not gng to rock the boat with the democratic party so you got to ask yourself the question, if you are a reformed minded democrat, can you reform the country without first reforming the democratic party? which has been so corrupted by the clintons and to some extent by obama and the big money thaty

comes in via wall street, that it no longer has much of anything to do with its labor base, the unions, the working class, the people who used to count in the democratic party. today, these guys like steve ratner count much more to the democrats into the clintonites than any union president. >> tucker: so what's interesting is, elizabeth warren gets up and says, for example, i'm sympathetic to this point, we need to bust up these monopolies, they have too much influence, she's absolutely right. on the other hand, you see people like these tech barons, the cfo, i misspoke earlier, cfo of spotify,is sending her money, so why would the cfo of spotify send her money if she really thought she was going to break up spotify? >> i really believe they canre water down her populism once they have knocked sanders out. if she remains faithful to the

democratic party -- that's what it appears. i will give you good example. you notice the flap with tulsi gabbard lately were hillary clinton makes this wild accusation that she is a russian agent or a russian asset and that she is preparing for a third-party run, that's a way to punish sanders to hurt her. sanders comes out and defends her, warren keeps her mouth shut. she says nothing, i think they have a nonaggression pact and that once you are in with the clintons, once you are compromising yourself to that extent, it is very hard to stick to principle. i'm worried that if she gets the nomination, and right now she looks like the consensus choice, biden's faltering badly, they are hoping that she can knock out sanders, if she gets the nomination, they can get her to water down her program and become a consensus democrat who will make sure that the

patronage and the fund-raising continues operating the way it always has. >> tucker: is that why -- bernie sanders ran as an economic populist in 2016 and didn't say a lot about identity politics. in fact, he criticized open borders. elizabeth warren, by contrast, is running as a kind of woke identity politics crusader and an economic populist. can you be both? >> you know better than most that illegal immigration is a labor issue. it's a wage issue. i read your book. a lot of illegal labor on the market drives down wages for everyone, especially at the bottom rung of the ladder. so to simply say that we have to be compassionate, which i think we should be, completely skirts the issue of wages. this is something trump hasn't addressed because he doesn't want to talk about it and i don't think he is interested but it's alsoo something that the mainstream democratic party is not addressing. the minimum wage is still at 7.25 per hour and there are

inll a lot of illegal labor the country working for three or four dollars an hour. meanwhile, you have nafta and of the permanent normal trade relations with china still driving hundreds of thousands of jobs out of the country, moving to mexico, moving to china, and nothing is being done. you don't hear the democrats talk about it at all -- sanders is talking about it because he is quite sincere but you don't hear them talking about trade anymore. >> tucker: no. because they know where the money comes from. publisher of harper's and old fashion liberal, one of the few left, great to see you tonight. thank you. a >> thanks for having me. >> well, newlyly minted presidential candidate michael bloomberg has devoted much of his life to gun control. as the mayor of new york city, he famously backed the so-called stop and frisk program that allowed police to search for illegal guns.

they found a lot of them, by the way, bloomberg consider that program a success and bragged about it often, including here in 2013. >> today, we have fewer guns, fewer shootings, and fewer homicides. in fact, murders are 50% below the level they were 12 years ago when we came into office. something no one thought possible back then. there is just no question that stop, question, and frisk has saved countless lives and we know that most of those lives saved, based on the statistics have been black ande hispanic young men. >> tucker: so there's really not a lot of evidence they can control programs have worked ever anywhere. i believe the only exception is stop and frisk, which has been in new york for quite some time, and it's certainly a company that caused the massive drop in crime you saw. you would think that stop and frisk would be popular with the left. democrats have been more aggressive than ever in their efforts with gun control and are promising to take your guns and ask for mandatory buybacks for weapons of war. again, stop and frisk is really

only be a measure that has ever been proven to use get so-called weapons were off the street before they kill people so democrats would support it, right? no. they hate it. why? because it's racist, of course. >> this is a policy that overwhelmingly put black boys and black men and black and latino men in prison which was seen as a civil rights violation. >> this is a mayor that provided over an administration that stopped in fact every black and latino and poor person that they could do is to go and then that ran new york city like an oligarch ultimately supported and defended a stop and frisk policy that essentially mass incarcerated black and brown people. >> i have three words. stop ander frisk. that will be the thing that will be the problem for michael bloomberg. >> he still defends this policy of stop and fix which impacted families like mine. it was my cousins and my friends that were stopped on the new york city subway system and racially profiled and patted

down. >> tucker: uh-huh. so this is getting a little confusing. we are joined by former clinton pollster, bernard whitman. thanks so much for coming on. i thought we were for all good liberals, we were for gun control, i keep hearing that, but the one gun control programs that has worked backed by a liberal, michael bloomberg, we arero now against? what do you make of this? >> there is no question michael bloomberg has done an extraordinary amount to get gun off on the streets of america. he has invested tens of millions of dollars, most recently, in virginia, to flipd the state legislature blue and enact gun control. i think it's going to ultimately lead to gun safety laws in virginia and -- >> tucker: hold on. we had a gun safety law, we had the only effective gun control law i have ever seen, ask any criminologist, i wrote ave bookn this once, stop and frisk actually worked. and everyone is against it nowke but i thought they were for gun control because they wanted to make the streets safer.

how do you square this? i'm honestly confused. >> there is no question he's going to face tremendous opposition from black americans and latinos because the policy disproportionally affected communities a of color. at the end of the day, his heart was in the right place. get guns off the street, save lives, helped end gun violence. the problem is, stop and frisk disproportionally ended up blocking tens of thousands -- >> tucker: wait. are you saying it didn't take guns, illegal guns, from gang members in new york? >> i do but the criticism is that the number of guns takenw was small compared with the tens of thousands of people who were sort of caught up in a system and ultimately it led to tens of thousands of young black and brown typically men being incarcerated for sort of nonviolent crimes like marijuana possession or coming under suspicion of police activity which can lead to -- >> tucker: hold on. everyone is throwing this out.

do you know the numbers? were there actually a lot of men in new york city who were incarcerated for marijuana possession? because of stop and frisk? no. actually, there weren't. this is b.s. it is b.s. what's the number? >> i don't know the number offhand but tens of thousands of people and hundreds of thousands of people were ultimately stoppeded and frisked and put into a database. >> tucker: oh, but the public can go door-to-door and take away people's rifles was at gunpoint? you don't agree with that? but the democrats -- i think the majority of the forerunners of the democratic nomination say that they were for mandatory carry gun buybacks. that's okay? >> that the key part of that was beto o'rourke it is no longer a part of that. >> the majority said yes and that would have included joe biden who is supposed to be

moderate. that's okay but it's not okay to take illegal guns off the street because why? >> i think the record of stop and frisk is quite mixed. people believe the disproportionally targeted young black men and latino men and ultimately, because of being caught up in the judicial system, it ultimately caused a lot of harm and damage of people's lives. >> let me just say -- i just want to say this for thee record, since this is a fact-based show, the line about how thousands of young people were put in prison for weed possession is a lie. that's not true. stop and frisk did not have that effect.po there were thousands of people -- busted for illegal guns. let me just ask you, does this make you rethink the other democratic gun proposals, gun control proposals out there, like mandatory gun buybacks? are we really for -- >> you are seeking moral equivalence that doesn't even make sense. i don't believe in mandatory buybacks, but i do believe in things like red flag laws and

things like not allowing people whos are convicted of hate crims to have guns. i do believe in things like limiting the size of magazines. >> tucker: okay. hold on, wait. hold on. let's get very specific very fast. limiting the size of magazines, so in d.c. for exempt, rounds maximum, and to felony data more than ten. would you be in favor of sending someone to jail for having a magazine with the capacity for 11 rounds in it? yes? right. >> depends what the law is. >> tucker: thate is the law in d.c., where i'm sitting right nowy. but you are not okay with stopping someone who's got a gun visible on the street and taking the gun away? >> i think any sane person, someone has a gun visible on the street, does not have a conceal and law, they should be arrested, absolutely. hundreds of thousands of people were stopped and discriminated against and that's the problem.

>> millions went away for having a joint and they were executed!a that's just all a lie. if we are against carrying illegal guns, with go ahead and be against that and the one program that actually works, we are not for the program? >> the unintended consequences. >> tucker: well. there might be a few of those if you try to criminalize an ar-15 thank you. well, a couple of years ago bernie sanders described openu borders as a koch brothers proposal because it is literally a koch brothers proposal, it's a libertarian idea. he was right. mass migration reduces wages for low skilled workers, but now sanders has changed his mind his campaign released an immigration proposal that looks like something the koch brothers would write. it would hold deportation, abolish enforcement, abolish i.c.e. justin haskins is a research

fellow at the heartland institute heat. he joins us tonight to explain what a climate migrant might be. why would a climate migrant have a right to come to my country? >> apparently climate migrants, which i don't even think are a real thing, are essentially a category of people from third world countries from developing nations who are supposedly suffering as a result of climate change. man caused climate change. i don't believe anybody is actually suffering from man caused climate change but bernie sanders proposal would have 50,000 people, 50,000, at minimum, come to the united states from around the world, who were suffering from climate change, supposedly, just the first year. hundreds of thousands of people, because supposedly this is good for climate justice or something along those lines, but the most bizarre part of all of this is that i thought, according to bernie sanders and elizabethar warren and everybody else, that human beings are causing climate change, that humans co2 emissions, that's what's causing

climate change, and is going to be catastrophic. if that's true, why are we bringing people from all over the world where they produce co2 emissions less per a person in places like mexico and guatemala and things like that, why are we bringing them to the united states where we produce co2 emissions per person at a much higher rate? it doesn't make any sense. >> tucker: also, if you cared about the environment, which i personally do emphatically care and go outside once in a while why would he want a crowded country? isn't crowding country the fastest way to spoil it and pollute it and make it a place't you wouldn't want to live? >> absolutely. look, the left is schizophrenic on a lot of issues and this is one of those issues. it doesn't make any sense at all to have an open door, open border policy, where you are bringing people into united states where people are supposedly destroying the planet, destroying t the environment, we are talking about population control

in some parts of the left right now, aoc says she stays up at night and she doesn't think she can have children because she is worried about the effect it is having on climate change, buthi she wants to bring in hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of people from aroundnt the world into the united states. how does this make any sense? it makes no sense. >> tucker: i feel sorry forenen her. i think she means it. the movement that was turned in to clean up the environment which most people, again, totally flat, has morphed into this weird cluster of neuroses where people actually think they can't have children because of climate, and it's sad. i mean, it really is paging dr. freud. these people need help and we all need help. our society has gone crazy. justin, thank you for your part in making it a little bitr less crazy. good to see you. well, the left is basically giving up trying to hide its contempt for you and anyone who

doesn't live in brooklyn. when we come back, the latest from a philosophy lecturer at uc berkeley on rural america. youlo ought to be ashamed of yourself.bo if you live outside brooklyn. we will be right back.

♪ >> tucker: the rideshare company uber has fired more than 1,000 workers since july. mostly americans. that's about 2% of its workforce meanwhile, during the

same period, the federal government has approved hundredo of new h1b visas and that means they can replace those workers with foreign scabs who will work for less. it's like outsourcing but even easier because it would doesn't have to build a new building. nothing unusual about what uber is doing.th there is w consensus in washingn that we desperately need smart people from overseas to do the jobs that americans are too badly educated to do.jo no reason to fix schools, or make sure higher education is serious and nonfrivolous. we can just import people froman countries that take education seriously. that's what we do. that's why the u.s. government passes out foreign worker visas to allow corporations to replace people like you who live 6,000 miles away. you probably haven't even heard of the f1 optional practical training program but in just four years, 2009 to 2013, the program replaced nearly half a million american jobs. the program allows foreign students who studied ins. amerin universities to stay in the

country after they graduate. in other words, we are going to staple a green card to their diploma. you have probably heard that phrase. employers who use f1b visas are not required to pay payroll taxes, they get a tax subsidy for hiring foreigners over u.s. citizens. how is that for america last? maybe the program would make sense if americans really couldn't fill all of those jobs but it turns out, there are plenty who could. just ask the thousands who were recently laid off by uber. according to the economic policy institute, nearly half of all american stem majors, that is people who study technology, don't end up working in stem jobs. isn't that weird? the only people who actuallyn benefit from these visa programs are tech billionaires in silicon valley. and the foreign nationalists who want to live in san francisco. our government makes it easy for them to do that. who gets hurt? among others, the college graduates who took on huge amounts of student loan debt

only to be dumped into a system where their foreign replacementn get preference over them. this is happening on a grand scale, and both parties are for it, including many republicans in washington. it tells you a lot about where their priorities are. a philosophy lecturer at the university of california berkeley went on twitter the other day and revealed his true feelings about everyone who lives outside the city. the instructor, who is a graduate student, described rural americans "as bad people who have made bad life decisions." he encouraged his followers on twitter to "shame people who weren't pro-city" and argued that health care, gasoline, and internet access ought to be at much more expensive for rural americans. no doubt,nd most people at berkeley share his contempt. mark steyn moved here to rural america where has lived for many years and he joins us tonight

what you think of this? as a rural american? do you feel less good then your compatriots in williamsburg brooklyn? y >> i would not want to take a philosophyou class from this alleged philosopher because you can say what you like about karl marx, but karl marx at least understood that poor people are not bad people who make bad decisions. one of the consequences of being poor is that you don't really have the freedom to make decisions. rural america has a lot of problems. the fellow across the street in my broken down loser new hampshire town, they paid $125,000 for their home. when they sold it a decade later, they had to take 80 grand for it. the two other houses that were for sale, no one wanted to buy them in the end they give in to the town

the town demolished them so when you sell a $125,000 house for 80 grand, you can't to move to a city where you can't afford to live in a city. i would say three things about the problems with cities. the first thing is that some of them are murdererous, like chicago. the second is that in california particularly where this guy is from, and they are absolutely filthy. nbc in los angeles is reporting tonight, showing video of a man on the streets of los angeles dumping a bucketvi f diarrhea over a woman as she is getting into her car. you heard from your previous guests about all these people who want to save the planet. instead of being a narcissistic buffoon and trying to save the planet, why not do something achievable like try to save your city, a city that can't even stop human waste in the street and putting human waste in the oceans and onto beaches. the third thing this guy doesn't

appreciate, because he is some like hipster the best cities in the world to live there., the middle class you have the megarich and the immigrant servants who service their lifestyles, whether it's domestic service or the barista at starbucks. >> tucker: it was healthier when it was challenging power. children like this kid on the screen are handmaidens to power. what they are saying is shut up, america, and obey your masters. why does no one ever say that?er they are not counterculture, they are the pretorian guard for billionaires. >> right and it's actually a class warfare now. poor americans have outlived their usefulness. so the megarich would rather have poor hondurans and poor sudanese and poor yemenis and poor americans can go to hell

and this philosopher's philosophy is fine with that. >> tucker: that tells you everything. mark steyn, who actually lives in rural america, good to see>> you. corporate america has never been more woke, as you've noticed they have banned ammunition sales, bankrolling left-wing groups and will happily finance your sex change operation. when it comes to pro-democracy protesters, that's totally fine with them as long as their friends in the chinese governmentng are doing it. and they are doing it. - do you have a box of video tapes, film reels, or photos, that are degrading? legacybox professionally converts them to dvds, thumb drive, or the cloud. legacybox is simple and safe, with over half a million satisfied customers. visit legacybox.com today, and get 40% off.

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50 feet high in a major american city, tonight, he stares out with flat slavic eyes over union square is below. just as in soviet times. the portrait was painted t so stealthily that even now local leaders appear to believe it depicts a climate protester from sweden, of course, the joke is on them. in the kremlin tonight, they are clinking chilled glasses of vodka and laughing. they hack our elections, and now they've hacked our murals. [laughing] corporate america is officially woke and getting woker by the day. the banks won't lend to gun makers, gillett wants to end masculinity, but nike pullec shoes off the shelves because colin kaepernick got offended by the betsy ross flag, the common stars ends and human resources order you to declare your preferred pronouns, all of that happening inap plain

sight and you are not allowed to complain about it, but when the chinese government murders protesters, no problem, we are cool with that. [indistinct speaking] >> tucker: gordon chang is author of the book, "the coming collapse of china", he joins us tonight. gordon, would it be too much to expect some leader of american industry that does business with china to publicly call on the chinese government to maybe stop killing people? >> we would certainly like that but we are not going to hear otthat. unfortunately, we have americane companies in what the local inhabitants called chinese occupied east turkestan and there we have american companies involved in a region where there are crimes against humanity, the worst abuses on earth. this is really distressing. >> tucker: wait, so unpack this a little bit, if you would

we have american corporate presence near the rounding up the interment in concentration camps of muslim ethnic and art minorities? is that what you are saying? >> yes. also we have a number american companies that have just generally supported beijing transferring technology to the chinese and we have them involved in places where they shouldn't be, including a part of the northwest of china, which is reallyy horrible. >> tucker: you have to wonder why investors aren't saying anything about this. there are a series as activists, hedge fund managers, for example, who will go to companies and say we don't like the way you are doing business, we think you are operating inefficiently, and we are going to force you to do what we want. why don't any of them ever push nike, for example, to stopt supporting the fascist regime of mainland china? >> they should. it's not just the question of morals, it's also the question on business because those places are risky from a business point

of view, certainly from a reputational point of view, because countries are starting to change their attitudes toward china. a company that is involved there, especially a american company, is going to run a risk that could affect the share value, so they should certainly be disclosed and talk about in prospectus and other filings. >> tucker: but it's not. no one else in corporate media mentions it. you never hear anyone on the other cable channels say any word about it. you don't hear presidential candidates, certainly on the democratic side, mention it very often. why is that? >> i think it's because we had this notion that we have to integrate china into the international system and also i think american companies are afraid of china. for instance, last month, apple took down a police tracking app from its app store because beijing demanded it. and this is just bad behavior but i think it's because tim cook is really scared of what china might do to his market for apple products. and by the way, last month, the

same month you had tim cook go on an advisory b board of the university school of economics and management, he is being sort of sweet talked into helping beijing, as well as being a coerced. >> tucker: it's just a little strange, because presumably if the u.s. government rounded up hundreds of thousands of muslims and put them in concentrationn camps, i'm betting some of the ceos may notice and maybe tweet about it at the very least. no? >> i think they probably would say something, tucker. we know that for very minor infractions, what they think, they won't do business with the pentagon. all sorts of issues that really just show a lack of american values and a lack of understanding of china's attack on our society. >> tucker: i mean, could there be a movement in congress to force some of these companies to take a side? either you or with the united states or you are with its mortalke enemies? >> also the president of the united states could use his powers under the international emergency economic powers act of

1997 to force companies out of china or to stop certain activities of theirs in china so the president could do that as well. >> tucker: it would be nice to see a little executive power exercised once and a while. gordon chang, great to see you tonight. thank you. well, apparently abc news executives killed internal reporting on jeffrey epstein. okay. you knew that. that story broke last week. ever since it broke, cnn has been covering up for abc. why is that? what's going on here exactly? we hope to get to the bottom of it after the break. after the bk

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>> tucker: jeff zucker runs a television network, cnn, but he doesn't actually go on television, and he spends most of his time up in his lair is screaming into this speakerphone at his very various minions. one of them, the creepiest of all the minions, when jeff zucker has something to say, slithers forth and speaks for him like a ventriloquist dummy.d when he speaks, you know it's actually zucker talking and whes supposedly a media critic, one story he is assiduously ignored is the greatest media story of the month/year and that's "abc news" anchor, amy robach's claim that her network killed reporting on billionaire pedophile jeffrey epstein. it's a great story. why is cnn covering for epstein and his allies in the media and refusing to bring news of that story to its viewers? chadwick moore is a journalist based in new york. he's kicked around the journalism business long enough

to know things, as we say, and he joins us tonight. great to see you, chadwick. why would cnn, why would jeff zucker be covering up for abc, which was covering up for jeffrey epstein? i'm confused. >> do they think that the american people are stupid? c do they think the people in this world -- theye do. and do they think there are people in this world who only get their news from cnn? that they don't know what's on?g i hate to break it to jeff k zucker, but people don't live in airports. tiv they know what's going on, your silence is deafening, and i think that you mention the word cartel, and i think that's right. i've been on this show before talking about when the media covers for their own whenever some scandal has broken or someone is in hot water which is basically every single day, and you know, they use these circling the wagon and project their own, i don't think that analogy works anymore. i think it's too cutesy. this isn't the oregon trail, this is juarez and jeff zucker is el chapo.

the level of corruption is j insane and these are supposed to be competitors, we would assume, that the news business would want to maybe be delighted in 1 of their competitors having a tough time. >> tucker: cnn is liberal, obviously. they have identified their audience as liberal and people stuck in airports.bu i get that. but the epstein story isn't politically necessarily. reveals the deeper agenda which is basically covering up for the people in charge however repulsive, corrupt, and criminal they are. that's really what it is, right? >> that's exactly right. the fact they said the story was squashed because they wanted an interview withth will and kate r the 10,000 housewives that cared about the royal family, i mean, instead it's just powerful people, powerful well-connected people, and your right to point out it wasn't necessarily political and that is what makes it so disgusting and so corruptt

>> tucker: you've been in journalism a long time. is that what journalists are supposed to do? cover up and protect powerful people? >> of course not. i always thought journalists were supposed to expose powerful and expose corruption and speak up, like i did several years ago and was blacklisted byow liberal media when i saw things very bad behavior and i what we are saying as with amy robach, being so obsessed with not the corruption or the injustice or not that many people continued to get victimized after the story was spiked, but she's obsessed with the fact that she didn't get credit for breaking the story, this career defining story that she wanted her name on, and it fulfills this impression people have of journalists as the spineless egomaniacs who don't care about anything but themselves and working their way, climbing up the ranks. at nbc, it worked for her. she became a coanchor of 20/20

after she shut up and didn't fight this -- >> tucker: you're absolutely right. i defended amy robach on the showtime read your piece. you won me over. she should've spoken about it. >> at least called the police. >> tucker: great to see you. two democrats candidates are engaged in a grievance battle. which politician is the bigger victim? pete buttigieg or amy klobuchar? oh, no! who worked for mckinsey. he's not the victim. that's the hint. we will tell you the answer after the break.

♪ >> tucker: be honest, nine months ago, had you ever heard of pete buttigieg? the unknown mayor of a small, crime-ridden midwestern city? no. now he's a top-tier presidential candidate but how do you do that? we are not sure but his fellow presidential candidate, senator amy klobuchar, has the

theory.re >> i am the one from the midwest that has actually won and a statewide race over and over again and that's not true of mayor pete. it's just a fact.it of the women, i am focusing on my fellow women senators, senator harris, senator warren, and myself. do i think we would be standing on that stage if we had the experience that he had? no, i don't. maybe we are held to a different standard.e >> tucker: sexism! tammy bruce is the host of "get tammy bruce," one of the best things on fox nation. you should subscribe to watch it. she's on the show today. what do you make of this explanation? >> she's a sexist. here she is saying that a woman in his position would fail and why would that be? either she is a sexist, would have a different expectation of a woman, he's 37, he went to harvard, he was a rhodes scholar, in the military, i

mean, it's a pretty impressive background for someone. let's say a woman has that background. i would expect her to come out and if she's going to run for president, you go ahead and do it and then fight for it and that's what he's done. i don't like him, i don't like any of the democratic candidates, but you have to hand it to them, they are out there ruining their lives, saying dumb things, and she comes after him. either she's a sexist or even worse, she believes -- remember, this is the voters, that the voters would be treating a woman differently. this is the democratic primary season. these are democratic voters that she is accusing of being sexist. this is such a habit that they have, she's not even considering what she's saying here.veuc >> tucker: and of course elizabeth warren is doing just fine despite being a woman in this race. i hate to say it but i can't control myself but i noticed that amy klobuchar's campaign poster has amy with an exclamation point. i've never seen a candidate with an exclamation point after his

or her name win anything. have you? >> no. i think wasn't the last one jeb? >> tucker: [laughs] it was! >> yeah. right. it doesn't work. when i was on the left, we realized and we did studies that in fact, for women to move forward, they should highlight being women and that would mean using their first name, so she is doing well in the debate, as is mayor pete, so she is using that aspect, believing it to help her with the same electorate that she is accusing of sexism. maybe if mayor pete had ever eaten a salad with his comb, maybe that would even out the playing field. i don't know, but it is anou interesting argument and it's shameful because as women, we say we are equal and we are going to play by the same rules and expect the same dynamic andt it's getting very old to say that your trouble is based on other people or it's other people's fault and i think that's not going to help her at all, to say the least. >> tucker: i think you're t

right. i have a soft spot because i'm married to a woman from the midwest and her accent -- >> but really she was the one who said that i'm from the'm midwest. i think she's jealous that she probably does not view him as a serious person, can't really admit that, and she's jealous he's doing well, because she's played by what she sees as the rules and maybe he didn't because he is gay and she'ss jealous about not being the one category that can be victimized in this lineup. she's got another person who can be a victim in their point of view whereas really, in fact, neither one of them are. wouldn't that be a lovely theme? >> tucker: i think that's exactly how everyone in that party sees the world. you know? it's all so bizarre. tammy bruce, great to see you. thank you for the clarity. >> thank you, sir. my pleasure. >> tucker: that is it for us n tonight, sadly. we will be back tomorrow night, tuesday night, and every weeknight at 8:00 p.m., the show that is the sworn and totally sincere enemy of lying,

pomposity, smugness, andnd groupthink. as the week begins, we would encourage you to think about dvr'ing it, if you can, and i failed but i suspect you will be better. good night from washington. guess who's next? live from new york city, taking over the 9:00 p.m. hour, ladies and gentlemen, sean hannity. >> sea: time to wake up. tucker, thank you, great show as always. welcome to "hannity." by the way, happy veterans day, and thank you to the brave men and women that have served this country with honor and distinction and you give us our freedoms and liberties and we could never repay you. tonight we honor you. also tonight, we are going to break down all of the insanity,e the madness that is going to enfold this week, all of the hypocrisy, you've got the do-nothing hypocritical socialist democrats, everythingg they've got planned for the week, and frankly, beyond, in the next 358 days or so until election day, i can only get my volume up here, somewhere, it's not working. anyway, we will also break down

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