happy birthday to avery. >> bill: happy birthday, avery! "newsroom news vault" five starts now. have a great rest of your week. >> harris: to begin with this fox news alert. president trump is set to make remarks one day before public hearings begin and house democrats and petro degree. this, some of the top house republicans are writing a memo to g.o.p. members outlining their strategy out of the public hearings. in that memo, it's argued that democrats failed to present evidence of a quid pro quo in the president's july call with ukraine's president. and that he had "reasonable skepticism of ukraine's history of corruption." g.o.p. congressman andy biggs says republicans also plan to aim at democrats star witnesses. >> they want to deal with the witnesses where they sit. are they biased? what is their credibility? things we have seen in the transcripts from the previous

hearings, you want to lay that out. the second thing is you want to attack the allegations they are making. the specifics. because there are problems with everything they are saying. they are not credible witnesses. >> harris: republican strategy pulling into focus. you are watching, in focus, "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. fox news contributor, emily compagno. fox news contributor, jessica tarlov. in the center seat, brian kilmeade, cohost of fox & friends and author of the brand-new book, "sam houston and the alamo avengers: the texas a victory that changed american history." brian is "outnumbered," and if you don't know it, he's a fantastic writer. congratulations! >> brian: thank you very much, it's really exciting, but i also know the format. the format as we will talk about it later. but i get it. [laughter] >> harris: i thought you meant the format of the book! we are going to do the news. >> brian: i'm trying to show some discipline. >> harris: i don't have any, apparently. first we begin with chief

congressional correspondent mike emanuel, live on the l. on the eve of the big day. >> a whole lot of memos flying around here on capitol hill that of tomorrow's open hearings. we've got a memo from chairman adam schiff. in that, chairman schiff writes, "there's a long bipartisan history of protecting whistleblowers, including threats to threaten, intimidate, retaliate against, or undermine the confidentiality of whistleblowers. on the other side, house republicans put out a lengthy strategy memo. as you mentioned last night, they wrote, "the july 25th call summary, the best evidence of the conversation shows no conditionality or evidence of pressure. president zelensky and president trump have both said there was no pressure on the call. ukrainian government was not aware of a hold on u.n. security systems at the time of the july 25th call. president trump met with president zelensky and u.s. security assistance flew to ukraine in september of 2019.

both occurred without ukraine investigating president trump's political rival. the 18-page staff memo obtained by fox also notes president trump's deep-seated, genuine, and reasonable skepticism of ukraine and u.s. tax-payer funded aid of corruption. he also notes the skips as an overall but u.s. foreign aid and the need for allies to do more. a key house democrat is also questioning the g.o.p. defense. >> we need to get to the facts, but i think saying something that is not true as a part of the defense is not going to be helpful. it is clear the ukrainians did no aid was being withheld. there are discussions that took place that indicate that. >> the intelligence committee's top republican sounds pessimistic over the overall atmosphere going into these open public hearings. >> my guess is it's going to be a complete circus. we are not going to get any of our witnesses. the mainstream media is going to

say how damaging it is to the president. that's just going to be the story line. >> tomorrow we find out of the open hearings live up to all this pregame hype. harris? >> harris: mike emanuel, thank you very much. we bring it out to the couch now. you just heard mike laying the case out. we saw a representative bigs off the top of the hour here talking about the republican strategy. >> brian: a couple things. i'm still waiting to find out if these guests are coming in. i shouldn't say guests, i should say witnesses. i want to see -- they want kurt volker, david hale, i think they will get them. the question is if they get nellie ohr. will they be able to say there's a reason for the president to be interested in the ukraine? are they going to say how devon archer and hunter -- devon archer, a part down my partner with hunter biden, are they going to say, "i wonder if the previous initiation was in cahoots against me." that's a narrative i think would be successful in saying that i have a reason to look into it. "you always ask of a country's to their own country."

but the president has a different idea. he says to stay with the memo, with the transit being perfect. there's no reason to make excuses, there's no problem. >> harris: but nothing is perfect. at attorneys, whom we know here at the network -- andy mccarthy, former southern district of new york u.s. federal -- >> brian: he thinks it's crazy. >> harris: know, what he says is he think it's imperfect in terms of depending don't like defending the present. you give yourself no place to go because you say everything is perfect and it makes it complicated. >> brian: defense and offense, too. you can't pay that of the narrative. if you are prepared and you can be insightful, if you can question, you make progress. if you are not prepared, you will be terrible. >> harris: i'm not saying there will be some cirque du soleil moments, because we know it could go sideways on the hill. but at least then we stay

focused. >> emily: absolutely. i do think it's a great point and it highlights that for viewers and for the public opinion, what actually comes out will be a stark contrast. it's a difference of reading a thesis yourself and reading someone else's bullet points of it. as always, i think the details will matter here. but probably unfortunately we'll get a more sedated view of it. >> harris: jessica, i have to think that democrats might go down the road -- and you can tell me if i'm wrong about this -- what brian said could absolutely all be true and it could also be true that the president did something untoward with asking another country to look into an american citizen. i'm getting that material from today's interview, one of them, with former ambassador nikki haley. because she said it's not advised for what she would have done to ask another country to look into an american citizen. >> jessica: it you're not supposed to do that. to your point, brian, about the president going on offense, that this is a perfect call, his defenders have even flipped the

script on this. congressman thornberry was on the sunday show this weekend, for instance, saying it's not the right thing to do. but the president does these kinds of things all the time. or this is the right thing to dt it's not impeachable. this is where they will end up if they won't convict in the senate. i believe it'll pass the house. when i listen to andy biggs saying we are going after the characters, what do you say about bill taylor? what do you say about marie yovanovitch? andy mccarthy last night on "america's newsroom," as you pointed out, harris, said that what happened to ambassador yovanovitch was not appropriate. that they're running a shadow foreign policy through rudy giuliani. the president can go out there and say, "i'm just interested in corruption," but this is the man who stood on stage next to vladimir putin in helsinki and said he trusted president putin that he didn't interfere in our elections. if he was interested in corruption, that transcript would have the word "corruption" all over it. it doesn't, it has the name biden. >> melissa: what's interesting, if you look at --

>> brian: once he was elected, "do what you are elected to do, that's to end corruption in ukraine." >> melissa: brian, if you go back to what you said at the beginning, it's interesting. the president comes off just finding out that the obama administration was listening to his campaign, doing all these things. who does he ask about the next day? a member of the obama administration. what was biden doing in ukraine? when you look at it through that lens, that this was part of the administration, who had played very dirty with him. as opposed to that this might be a person running down the road, may or may not. this is a vice president to the other person who did some really dirty things, spying on my campaign. >> brian: absolutely, and that is the narrative that came out on the original date was revealed. the transcript. "this is 2016, the president is obsessed with certain things. when they say they wiretapped this phone, we thought, where is

that coming from?" but the further along you get, someone was listening, and the horowitz report will reveal something but no one will talk about that. >> harris: emily, when you look at this legally, whether you are defending a person, you still have to know the answers to the questions. your offense/defense of the present right now, you know it's going to come up. what will you anticipating ukraine to do when he told them to do us a favor? >> emily: that such a great point. when they are being acquiesced no matter what you ask him of the pleasantries back and forth no matter what, and the argument could be made that it is so surface it's almost a transcript of any type of to polemic relations with a positive relationship with a leader of any country. i want to point out for viewers, too, that the logi matteparameters of these hearin, there's 90 minutes for the chairs in the rigging members and 5 minutes for everyone else. notwithstanding the strategy that will be deployed by the

g.o.p., credibility, bias, what not, there is a significant difference to the democrats favor. >> jessica: can i just quickly say that it isn't business as usual to withhold military aid from a democratic ally to do an investigation for personal benefit? that is an abuse of the office. it's actually bribery, which now democrats are smartly moving onto. it is what happened. bill taylor, lieutenant colonel vindman confirming that, gordon sondland found as truth box and has amended his testimony. so that isn't business as usual. that was a violation of the constitution. an abuse of power. >> harris: can i backup for a second? i'm glad you brought that up in terms of amended testimony. we got reports that some of these witnesses were headed down to the scif. i don't know if they were looking at their own testimony, looking for things they would want to clarify. i don't know why he would do that. but if some of them are called back, if their answers are even nuanced and fresh earrings, what does that mean, emily? >> emily: larger picture, i think it goes to her credibility. if you have a witness who said

different things -- >> harris: e mean to tell the truth. sometimes you just can't say the exact same wording you used before. >> emily: i will point out that i think part of the difficulty of this entire conversation is a lot of it is subjective. it's people's thoughts and feelings that both sides are hanging their hats on. so naturally there is not the delineation we might expect of, "i was there at 6 60 5:00, assignment by at 60 7:00 it's not that simple when you have non closed doors leak to us in dribs and drabs. then it's not the full picture all the time that we can depend on in that way. >> harris: we are going to scoot. san incentive will that focus make the city problems even worse? i guess that's the way you ask that. >> brian: can i say no now?

>> harris: plus, the supreme court hearing arguments on cases related to daca, with the fate of the dreamers hanging in the balance. will this be the end of the obama-era program? ♪ liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. i wish i could shake your hand. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

>> melissa: president trump right now is speaking live at the economic club of new york in new york city. he is hitting on themes of how lower taxes and deregulation have unleashed the economy. investors are listening for quotes about what's going on in the china trade war, and we are listening to see if he strays off topic and says anything about impeachment. if you want to watch this live, it is going on right now on fox business. we will monitor it, too, as well, and bring you the

highlights. the supreme court today hearing arguments in a group of cases that could decide the future of the controversial obama-era program known as daca, which protects from deportation immigrants brought to this country illegally as children. now the fate of some 700,000 so-called dreamers hangs in the balance. the court will decide whether president trump had the legal authority to end daca back in 2017. the president tweeting this morning, "many of the people in daca no longer very young, or from angels. some are very tough, hardened criminals. president obama said he had no legal right to sign order but would anyway. if the supreme court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with dems for them to stay x and i" brian kilmeade, i don't think it how it could be any more plain. the president said sometimes he wants to make a deal on daca for the dreamers to stay and democrats never take him up on the offer. they don't even say the word "dreamers" anymore. >> brian: the status quo is

okay. the status quo says the court upheld the decision. however, if the reverse that i do what obama said was going to happen, then all of the sudden they are forced to come to the table. remember what the circumstances were with a $25 billion for the wall? "you get $25 billion to the wall if you left the dock of people stay." that was the deal the president walked away from. then they said the doctor kids could stay in court. they are here anyway they have to be put on the clock. for democrats to feel an urgency that their constituency is in trouble. so there's no urgency urgency without a decision. >> harris: i'm sorry, i'll wait. th>> melissa: go ahead! >> harris: i was just going to say it baffles my mind that so many americans are thirsty for term limits, to treat every situation like just this moment is the one we are going to sol solve. we won't hook on the road. most of them have to wait to run for reelection. how do you not have a foreign-looking pass?

>> melissa: from a legal perspective, emily, you look at this and if the executive branch, it's supposed to execute. that's why president obama said he had no right working on this. that's why president trump are saying, "you guys have to do your job." the legislators are supposed to do something about this, and no one thinks our immigration system is working. no one a naughty side. why don't they get to do their no 1 on either side. one of the get together to do their job? >> emily: so the viewers can understand, ask essentially is a separation of powers leakages outline. the underlying history come back to the 50s, 600,000 cubans, 1.5 million under reagan and george w. bush. we have constantly found ways to protect undocumented immigrants in ways that we believe they are viable part of society. et cetera. so there's the historical aspect of that. and there's also that we have a history that's been approved by the supreme court, and the

prosecutorial discretion. an action of enforcement. but there's a line between that and total suspension of laws. both sides are arguing what's most important, what is most wait to y. 91% of these are employed , 6 billion in taxes they pay, they were 45 briefs supporting dreamers and 12 supporting the government, and one of those briefs for dreamers, hundreds of companies and businesses speaking to it. so there are so many things that play, but ultimately if the decision is against this it would be at the root of those separation of powers, because the precedence of the supreme court, they are not looking back one year or two years or one in administration. they are going back for years and years and looking forward for centuries. >> harris: looking forward, at least somebody is. what you are talking about here is the beauty of the rule of law. this is what the country is founded on, and that's what gives us freedom. the reason why we have people coming over the border as they are escaping things like this

horrible crime that we saw in mexico where the rule of law has broken down. what they are president says doesn't matter, because they know that he is not going to enforce laws on these cartels. so why do we want the rule of law to work here in the united states? >> jessica: i think you do want the rule of law to work here in the united states, but as emily so eloquently referred to, we have a long history of welcoming immigrants into this country, especially those who are fleeing circumstances like -- bt why not clean that often make the while more clear and have immigration reform? >> jessica: you will find no greater enthusiast for car brands of immigration reform than me. probably capitol hill people want to get done, but i'm a big fan of that. they do want to, but the problem is the shucking and driving. the trades that go on. that's what goes on with daca. nancy pelosi has been clear she wants a clean daca bill. the president will not give th that.

you have to have all eyes on chief justice john roberts. i believe he will be the deciding vote to go one way or the another at the start of this, going back to the fearmongering language. "there are no angels." first of all, you can't qualify for daca if you have any sort of criminal history. the average age of these children, they got here at three years old. these are not criminals. also there is uniform support across all parties to make daca recipients permanent members of the american community, whether that's a permanent legal status or pathway to citizenship. the initiation is playing with fire by talking about dreamers like this and i hope there's a resolution. going back to that fearmongering language that we heard about the criminals and the rapists, "build that wall," that riles up a base. but dreamers are different. >> melissa: it seems like a string to inspire legislators to actually do their job. >> brian: right. he's going to compromise. >> harris: you think you can? they've come close several times and they won't do it. i might have used a different word to describe how they wrangle on capitol hill, but

there is the sort of precursor. "if you don't have a full reform answer, don't even try to fix part of it that you could tackle." and that's how you get left in limbo. nobody wants to give the other side of victory. but you know what? it doesn't even have to look like that. maybe it's about us, their american people. how about giving us a victory by solving something like this? >> emily: this decision will come out in june, by the way. it will likely shape -- smack in the middle of the elections. >> melissa: a student newspaper facing backlash after its coverage of protests against jeff sessions. what is going on here? plus, rush limbaugh predicts the impeachment hearings will look similar to hearings last year which did not go well for democrats. >> i think the model for what's going to happen this week is the cavanaugh hearings. it was a never-ending parade for about a week and a half. ♪

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>> harris: public impeachment hearings set to kick off tomorrow, and rush limbaugh says to expect something similar to what took place during justice brett kavanaugh's confirmation hearings. which did not end well for democrats. watch. >> it was a never-ending parade for about a week and a half, as every person they brought forth to try to destroy kavanaugh failed. there was another one waiting in the wings. i guarantee you it is the same strategically they are going to employ here this week.

they are going to screw this up like they screwed up the kavanaugh thing. they want it too much. and because they want it too much, they are making tactical and strategic mistakes. >> harris: as rush limbaugh asks or says to the met, do the democrats wanted to much? >> brian: behind closed doors is almost like the pregame show. we learned what they had to say about the ukraine information. there was a belief among democrats that if you put the mueller report on television, because no one wants to read the book, it would be very devastating for the president. if it reads, if they bring the same people out to say roughly the same things, i think it will go -- i think it will be good for the president. but i sense there are surprises here. i get this and someone will come out and say, "i don't like the we do it with russia, either." >> why do you think that? >> brian: i can see the ending to clear. democrats are going to believe

the president is guilty, republicans are going to make him unimpeachable, and diddle at a brick wall in the senate. something tells me, because i've been alive for the last two and a half years, there's going to be something unexpected that takes place. because everything else seems so scripted. adam schiff comes out, "i've got some problems with the whistleblower, have to talk to the whistleblower." and all these people fall into place as if it's a hollywood scri. >> harris: you been watching too much we tv. [laughter] i thought the pregame was actual called record the president handed out. i thought we all had it. that was before anybody even started testifying. >> julie: overwhelmingly we recognize there are two camps , the two teams going to bat. but the average american voter cares about kitchen table issues. right now, for the ninth time this year, the dow jones broke records yesterday. the day before yesterday. it's a 70% consumer-driven economy. people care about a few things.

unless the bombshell we've been promised actually comes out, unless there is some type of something that will actually persuade independence and those moderate voters that are truly waiting to see something that might change their mind, at this point it doesn't look like it will shift and have any kind of impact on how people vote. >> melissa: i think everybody has gotten all excited about these things before and they've come out of nothing. it keeps sticking in my head, that time democrats came up to the microphone and they were like, "there was a point in the testimony today where they were audible gasps in the room." it was something that was said. i'm coming through transcript later in trying to find in these hundreds of pages we could have possibly made gasped, and i still haven't found it. if you have, go ahead and tweet me. when we do the dramatic reading, which is what this is going to be, i wonder if we are all going to be really disappointed. kind of opposite what you're saying. i think it'll be disappointing. [laughter] >> brian: for republicans. >> harris: you talk about that is appointed, democrats are so

thirsty for bob mueller to give a dramatic reading of his own report. we didn't get that. he didn't even really to a that took us deeper than whatever was on that page. brian may have hit upon something here. this is great for republicans if there's actually no cirque du soleil there. >> jessica: you are right that bob mueller's testimony was more monotone and certainly reserve. he had been clear going in -- >> harris: monotone? he basically read what was written. >> jessica: it right, in a static voice, and there was no real drama to it. i believe the intel committee questioning revealed a lot more of that. that's when we talked about the ten or 11 potential counts of obstruction of justice, if the olc guidelines have been different. was going to be different about this investigation is we have multiple witnesses. let's say marie yovanovitch isn't that compelling, maybe bill taylor is, or lieutenant colonel vindman, or george can't. >> harris: you know what would be really cool? if the facts are that compelling.

>> jessica: i find them compelling. >> harris: i don't know what happens. i'm just saying, rather than having a bevy of actors -- >> brian: the president will come out with another letter or another phone call. when a second transcript can be treated about that. former massachusetts governor deval patrick is weighing an entry into the presidential race for 2020. what these possible late additions could mean for the democratic field. what's going on with michael bloomberg? ♪ i have huge money saving news for veterans. mortgage rates just dropped to near 50-year lows. one call to newday usa can save you $2,000 every year.

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my team's working overtime to make sure every veteran can refinance now to save $2000 every year >> melissa: michael bloomberg filing papers to appear on the ballot for the presidential primary in arkansas today. this is the second state he has filed in that a formal decision on whether to run for president. now we are learning that former massachusetts governor deval patrick is reportedly looking to fill his hat in the ring, as well. "the new york times" reporting that patrick told democratic officials that he didn't think any of the current candidates have established political momentum, and that there is still room for someone who can

unite both liberal and moderate voters. american conservative union chairman matt schlapp weighing in on the last-minute moves. >> i do think this is an sos. this is a cry for help. there's a clear division amongst -- between democrats who think that the socialists just can't get it done and what win and the general election, and then these kind of traditional democrats. haller clinton-type people. i think she is still looking at this race. >> melissa: the quinnipiac poll, joe biden is still in the lead. 20%, war and at 16, pete buttigieg at 15. where they're a bunch bunch of democrats that still seem to think he can't hold onto it or that there's room for moderates? >> jessica: because elites are disconnected from average roto rotors. 74% of democratic voters are happy with their voices, that's higher than any other points in the last three or four decades. higher than '08 when we had john edwards, hillary clinton, and barack obama.

why this late entrance potentially matters is it's apparently at the urging of the obama camp. develop patrick is very close with the former president, president obama has obviously not weighed in on all this. not only is joe biden at a new hampshire, but nevada and south carolina. only not in iowa. >> melissa: let me follow-up your quick. so president obama is one of those elites that is disconnected? >> jessica: if anyone is pushing someone to get into this race when there are plenty of people who are not getting as much airtime as they could be, like amy klobuchar, cory booker, julian castro, there are so many people in the field already. why not dump $100 million into cory booker's campaign? >> melissa: you think obama is one of the disconnected elites? >> jessica: that is a rumor that develop patrick has been talking to them. >> harris: dnieper visa city or go that unless certain things were present, like the phone or did look he could go on or whatever, that he would not get

into this race? >> jessica: michael bloomberg said the same thing. >> brian: i find it fascinating. democrats are in a panic. you've got the inside track, i get it, but we know that david axelrod got deval patrick elected. in the second biggest was president obama. every time i see the big critical joe biden, i think to myself, "why? what's going on here?" >> harris: what do you think they see? >> brian: i think they see weakness. we see a guy who can't go more than ten or 12 minutes without putting more than two or three sentences together. a >> jessica: as town hall he was wonderful. he got tough questions. >> harris: i don't want to say it's a rorschach and we see different things. at about ten before the hour, another 20 minutes or so because i think it went to 1015 eastern. i do see a slow down and i saw a little less connection with joe biden wherea shining star, answering the questions about his own grief.

and it has to be exhausting to emote like that. i think he reached people in health care in that audience. to be fair, i saw a drawback at that point. i don't know why. i'm just giving you my observation. >> melissa: emily, i want to go back to jessica's original point. i think that's really interesting. she is saying the people pushing for these other candidates, or are these other candidates in the case of michael bloomberg, are the elites in the democratic party who are out of touch with the real voters out there. that's an interesting point of view. what do you think? >> emily: i agree with it wholeheartedly. i think that's part of why when bloomberg came in, it's a question of how far the establishment will go to question. i went to dinner the other night was a large group of people, they are older, incredibly well-connected, very well to do democratic party. >> brian: it sounds like a great dinner. [laughter] >> jessica: where was i? >> emily: each of them felt very strongly about a different and have a candidate they were supporting.

also, every one of my democratic friends feel so strongly about an existing candidate they are supporting and pushing for. they will also bring a pushover who maintains a final lead. we will see is the attacks that have been on every clinton in 2016 now happen against bloomberg. there's a disconnect, i will wrap. >> harris: if bloomberg is only getting 6%, what will deval patrick at this point? >> jessica: will see if he registers by friday. >> melissa: san francisco just elected a new district attorney who has never prosecuted a case before. the radical agenda he brings to a city reeling from the homelessness crisis of epic proportions. ♪ at verizon, we're building the most powerful 5g experience for america. that's why the nfl chose verizon. because they need the massive capacity of 5g with ultra wideband, so more screaming, streaming, posting fans... can experience 5g all at once. this is happening in 13 stadiums all across the country.

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>> harris: the newly elected district attorney in san francisco says he will not prosecute quality-of-life crimes like public. instead, he will focus on fighting social injustice. he is the son of antiwar radicals who took part in the infamous 1981 brinks bank will operate in new york, which led to two police officers and a security guard being killed. boudin said growing up with incarcerated parents made him a crusader for criminal justice reform. >> brian: that's what the people of san francisco want with their issues they are dealing with right now? you get a guy that the public defender, a former public defender, and he took on and beat an experienced prosecutor, and san francisco gets what they want. please tell me a scenario in which things get better in san francisco without philosophy. the broken window situation here that rudy giuliani put in with

commissioner bratton, making sure there is no more littering, those little things change the city. they will make sure it's worse. >> harris: just got? >> jessica: people have made a lot of our defense against broken windows. policing and a lot of what kind of new york was actually racist. >> brian: i have not heard that. >> jessica: really? >> brian: i saw it get better and it was okay to bring a radio and leave with the car you came with and not have it on blocks. >> harris: i want to get you in here. >> emily: and from the bay area, as we know. i said at the time that they are making the statement they really are committed to criminal justice reform. that being said, it's kind of an over supplication of his platform, that he -- the social justice includes the drug addicted adult homeless population there that is the result of a lot of converging sectors -- vectors -- that that

city is not addressing even though they are basing their budget to historical proportions. they are spending more with less results, and all my friends and family who live there are in hell. it's not speaking for everyone. unfortunately, the group of people that will be the ones who are the most hurt by this are those living on the streets. he has to commit to some enforcement of something, otherwise he want to publish anything. >> melissa: how does this and with revenue in the city? when i lived in san francisco there was a woman who stood near the offer and without a top on every day soliciting. you could not pass her because she was next to the highway. now people in the marina say you can't leave your car outside because there is a smash and grab on basically a daily basis. cars are broken into. so these are things he is talking about, they are quality-of-life issues that he is not going to prosecute anyone offering or soliciting sex.

public, blocking the sidewalk. you are pushing out of the city because they can't live. i don't want to drive my child to school past somebody was naked soliciting sex every single day for years. >> brian: you are going to move. >> harris: i want to get to bernie sanders, because he is hailing the surgery. "not as the moment to reform are broken and racist criminal justice system by ending mass incarceration, the failed war on drugs, and the criminalization of poverty. congratulations, chesa boudin, on your answering victory." jessica? >> jessica: i think he needs to be a middle ground. i'm not in favor of everybody getting to just do whatever they want. we understand is a huge homelessness crisis there, things like not policing public. but what he's arguing and what many are on both sides of the aisle, in fact, is that there had been an over correction we have to make sure we get some of these people who don't deserve to be in prison out of prison,

and the trim and they need to come of need. >> harris: the current president has been focusing on this issue. acting on it. >> jessica: his experience going up with cross incarcerated parents, there's a "washington post" profile talking about this. it shows how dark the criminal justice system is and how it adds preyed upon people who don't deserve to be in there. i think advocating for a change in policy might be important. this maybe too far. >> harris: you agree with bernie sanders. i just wanted your quick reaction on that. see if you have agreed, which is a high percentage for me. >> harris: i think that's was happening in the democratic party right now. anyway, we'll move on. the student-run university newspaper on top university commander fire. details and debates next. ♪ ng newfor veterans. mortgage rates just dropped to near 50-year lows. one call to newday usa can save you $2,000 every year. and once you refinance, the savings are automatic.

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>> melissa: northwestern university's student newspaper

speaking backlash after apologizing to student activists over its coverage of recent protests of a speech by former attorney general jeff sessions to college republicans. the daily northwestern says they were sorry folders don't like photos of the process were posted to social media by reporters and efforts to contact students for interviews using the northwestern director had been an invasion of privacy. but now some student journalists are saying the apology was out of line. a denver post senior editor tweeting, "the editors of northwestern's student newspaper are apologizing for doing journalism. this is deeply embarrassing." along those lines, you protest because you want to, by definition, draw attention to something. and now they are saying seeing pictures of themselves protesting was re-traumatizing to the protesters? i don't understand. >> brian: this is northwestern. this isn't some made for television university. so this is where journalism -- why would they go for nine pages

to apologize for doing journalism? i reported unrest at an event with the former attorney general, and maybe the next senator from alabama, this is what happened. if you're upset with the outcome that's not my problem. if you can't make a stand at 19 or 20, and those people who are supervising don't back the students, is an important learning experience for you. be proud of it. >> melissa: just, what you think? >> jessica: saying they apologize for contacting people in a totally appropriate way, it wasn't like they inappropriately slid into someone's dms and reusing information against against them. they were talking to people who would be at the demille school of journalism. it's disconcerting. i'm sure we will hear more about this story. they are now adults, and guy benson i went to northwestern has spoken about it, as well. i hope they rectify the situation. >> emily: it makes me no concern. not that i wasn't already, but is that what students are

learning to capitulation, hesitancy? a fear at all times? that is literally what driving output? it seems like no one, at least in schools, are being instructed to be strong and firm and put it out there and move forward. because now the story has maintained on that. >> melissa: the irony in it, they were protesting to draw attention to the issue. they succeeded, they drew attention. you want reporters to cover it. it's shocking to me. it's a good point to segue to your new book. one of the reasons you do so much on history is because you're worried about what history is being taught. >> brian: the whole thing was they were part of mexico and when they took away the liberty and freedom and due process, that's why they fought for liberty and freedom and not for the social safety net but for an opportunity to pursue happiness. but the constitution they were together.

the declaration of independence they quickly wrote, and they fought for it. sam houston would be the one who led the charge. if you gave him the story, he would be outraged at what northwestern did. it just goes against everything. >> melissa: is that one of the reason you keep doing these books to mike they are entertaining, it's fun. but it's about reminding people about the real history of america. >> brian: it took me 20 years to research, but i never knew by the next book in the next book it would be a war on our history. jefferson statues have to come down, the statue has to come down, this guy wasn't that great. when sucking, they are not perfect, but america's foundation is -- up there we be so arrogant in 2019 and look back at other generations and say they are not as good as us. we are a work in progress but we want get better. that's what the book is about. i will be in huntington tonight at book review and hopefully talking about that. because you have nothing else to

do during the day! >> brian: i don't go to clubs like i use to! [laughter] >> melissa: we will go out and get the new book. thanks for the rest of the couch, as well. we are back at noon eastern tomorrow, and now here's harris. >> harris: fox news alert, republicans and democrats laying out their game plans. through the 24 hours before the first public impeachment hearings are set to begin. you are watching "outnumbered overtime." i'm harris faulkner. democrats will be talked on my calling refreshments is tomorrow as news has obtained a memo that outlines the party defense of the president. the memo says the plant to make the case that democrats failed to provide any evidence of quid pro quo from that july phone call, and argue that the president had a genuine and reasonable skepticism of ukraine due to its history of corruption. the white house also says this. >> every witness up there so far as said "i assume, i