>> ♪ >> ♪ dc >> ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." if you could remember that far back, democrats formerly began impeachment proceedings against president trump on september 24th of this year. today nearly 2 months later they held the first public hearings. cnn went wall-to-wall under strict instructions to squeeze every last drop of partisan drama for the proceedings. if you were stuck in an airport and caught some is of it, you could testify how pointless and tiresome it was. it made you realize democrats had no master plan for impeachment. they haven't thought it through. they are making it up as they go

along as most people in d.c. are. and in the end impeachment will certainly hurt them. the whole premise is too dumb not to hurt them. the good news. we solved one nagging mystery today. trump's crime. it's never been clear what democrats believe is the impeachable offense. now we know. it's this. >> wouldn't it be wonderful if we could get along with russia. >> [cheers and applause]. >> wouldn't that be nice? if we got along with russia we could knock the hell out of isis. >> tucker: that was august of 2016. it turns out voters agreed with that view. they elected donald trump president just 3 months after he said that. permanent washington was appalled. getting along with russia is not

considered an alternative view here. it's a crime. listen to the state department veteran george kent one witness who testified today that conflict with russia is the entire point of american foreign policy. >> our game for by foreign service career is not possible without a ukraine, whole, free and at peace including territories occupied by russia. >> tucker: the territory of ukraine is essential to america. our own borders mean nothing.

defending them is racist and immoral. the borders of crimean and dunnbass, are important and have been for the entirety of my foreign service career! back off, donald trump, with your wild ideas about changing things because the world is different now and voters want to move on. moving on is not allowed here. change is prohibited. career bureaucrat william taylor agreed. >> ukraine is important for the security of our country as well as europe. ukraine is the front line in a conflict with a newly aggressive

russia. >> tucker: so we need ukraine like an alcoholic needs a drink. we are addicted. too many career depend on keeping our assumptions where they were in the fall of 1977 when fighting the soviet menace consumed our federal budget. if they don't, they could invade afghanistan p. so here in washington that's what we are doing. our real fear is the rest of america -- will discover that the soviet union no longer exists and russia's economy is the size of italy. their only aircraft carrier needs to be towed around the ocean because it's broken. their best scientists moved to new jersey leaving them unable to build a working escalator.

russia poses no threat to the united states. that's why kent and taylor spent all day insisting that russia remains a moral threat to our country. >> ukraine soon a path to become a full security partner with nato. -- is on a. >> we and nato began to provide military assistance to ukraine's armed forces with military equipment and weapons. >> tucker: rest easy, america! nato is providing critical military assistance to our key ally ukraine against the red army. we are fighting them in korea? why? so we don't fight them in cleveland. that's what they demand you believe. trump disagrees with. that he said this. >> if you look at the ukraine, we are the ones always fighting

ukraine. ukraine is far away from us. how come the countries surrounding the ukraine, how come they are not opening up and protesting? i never hear anything from anybody except the united states. nato is obsolete and extremely expensive to the united states. >> tucker: ukraine is very far away from us. that could be trump's campaign slogan. let's hope it is. it won't get you 800 on the s.a.t., but there is a simple brilliance to it. it implies the question that official washington cannot answer. the question is this: why are we doing things this way? how did it help america? for dareing to ask that question, the only question that matters ever -- they are impeaching him. listen to adam schiff admit that. >> well, the founders did not intend that impeachment be

employed for mere differences over policy, impeachment is a constitutional process that congress must utilize as necessary. >> tucker: do you want to know what the left is up to? it's not hard to define. write this down. listen carefully to what they deny. that's always the real answer. you are not supposed to impeach a president over policy differences says adam schiff. he is right about that. and yet that is exactly, indeed precisely what they are doing. the senior advisor at the state department joins us live tonight. this is in fact an argument over policy, christian. wouldn't the rest of us be better off if we could have an honor policy debate? >> that would be a lot better.

what looks like a bunch of deep state cry babies wailing over the process and not being consulted even though they are three levels down in the state department and working against the president is about policy. this resistance of donald trump took before he took the oath of office when they set up general flynn based on a phone call with the russian ambassador. all of this stems back to the desire to make russia enemy number 1 and start world war iii. >> tucker: if i come at this cold and someone said go on wiki pedia and tell me the big threat to the united states. i would have a head injury not to say it was china. i never hear anybody say that in washington. they are lecturing me about

russia. they are missing the threat. >> of course, today foreign service officers looked like people who sat by themselves at recess. you hit the nail on the head, which is that are the threats? china and radical islam and north korea. >> tucker: and the drug cartels killing 70,000 americans. >> yes, what is going after radical islam is not political correct. that drove them. the trump administration, where is china in this threat matrix? everybody was russia. >> tucker: madeleine albright was the secretary of state

appointed by bill clinton. she is revered in washington. he set up a consulting firm and got rich in china. nobody says the albright group. how can you get rich in the process and not one person in washington mentions it? >> right. biden's kid not only got rich off a no-show with the ukrainian firm that is corrupt. he also raised money in china. kissinger is in it too. they squire ceos through china and come back and accuse donald trump of being unpatriotic. >> tucker: and then they are in control of the nba. christian, thank you very much. how does the white house respond

to what happened today. the white house press conference stephanie grisham has never been on the show. thanks for coming. one thing i noticed in watching this, a lot of current employees at the state department appear to not be on the president's page on foreign policy. that's bad. >> it's not great. that's part of the problem they are having. there is no reason that anybody in our government across our administration should be working against a president, especially one doing so well for the country. >> tucker: as a constitutional matter, if you believe in democracy, then legitimacy comes from votes. aren't they bound to carry out of the foreign policy of the president? >> absolutely. if they are not ready to do that, they need to resign. people are not happy with the results of the 2016 election. they are trying to stop the win we will have in 2020. we are ready for that. >> tucker: did you watch today? what did you think?

>> i watched, yes. the two star witnesses could not even say they ever met the president. there was a quote that said hearsay can be much better than evidence from the dems. i don't understand how that's possible. today was a public joke. i am happy the american people got to see which was different than the last two weeks when everything was behind closed doors. >> tucker: you said i watched. your inflection suggested that others didn't. did the president watch? >> no, he was working. he was in meetings all di. -- day. we had president erdogan from turkey come in. he met with many other people and working well into the evening before i left to come here. >> tucker: are you worried -- the constant outrage we get about russia, will force the administration into a more hostile posture to russia?

>> no, i think the president has been very tough on russia. the president has an obligation to work with foreign leaders across the world. we are not worried about the swamp is thinking. if you go out into the country, this president is so popular. i am mention the lsu and alabama game. i could not believe that stadium. people in the country know how well this president is doing. >> tucker: maybe they are all russian agents. >> [laughing]. >> tucker: he said why don't we just get along with russia? lindsey graham in d.c. always jumping up and down they are our enemy and we need to fight them. these ridiculous bumper stickers. >> he has an obligation to work with all foreign leaders. i sit in meetings with him in

many, many foreign leaders. we works well with most of them. when he needs to get tough, he gets tough. that makes me proud as a citizen. he will work with everybody and he will do that with putin. >> tucker: last time i saw you, you were standing next to kim jong-un. i am not implying anything. thanks for coming on. congressman brad serves on the house intelligence committee which is orchestrating the impeachment. he is a physician. the head surgeon which is an amazing fact. if there wasn't impeachment i would ask you about that. the most interesting detail i thought today was that adam schiff, who is the chairman of the intel committee claimed he didn't know the identity of the whistleblower. how can that be? >> he seemed to be going back and forth. he made a public statement, i never met the whistleblower.

then he said he did. today he went back to no i never met him. we won't get an answer from adam schiff. he should be a witness. >> tucker: if you are the chairman of the house intelligence committee and your job is to oversee the intel gathering agencies and the world's darkest and deepest secrets and you are a proven liar, how can you continue to serve? >> he lost the faith of the american people and the faith of the people on the committee. no doubt about it. maybe some of his members play along. a lot of them even on the democrat side are seeing this is tough to follow this man. the whole russian collusion thing for three years, i would have been embarrassed to be out there day in and out saying he has evidence and it's never there. devin nunes pointed that out today. all of the things the democrats have done that were disproven.

once the mueller report comes out and it falls on its face, they start up with another event. >> tucker: if you have no shame at all, then there is nothing you would not do, right? >> it doesn't seem to be at that point. we would like to have him under oath. that's the one thing he doesn't want to do is get under oath and answer questions we have about his activity and who else was involved in the whistleblower and bring in the whistleblower's attorney who said the coup begins in '16. the american people have caught on to this. they really have. i am not getting much at home. when is this circus going to end? when you are going to finish the things you need to be working on? >> tucker: such a sideshow and it's dumb. what is the plan? at this point not a single republican in the house voted to begin this inquiry.

this is a partisan exercise. do they think they will peel off 20 republicans on the stuff we saw today? >> no, and they think this is working. i think just the opposite. >> tucker: they won't get a conviction or removal. what do they hope to get? >> hope to take an opportunity to be on the stage and to cherry pick who they want to talk to and give a negative impression of this president. it's not working. i think america gets it. even the witnesses today, they were not good witnesses. they don't know anything. they were never involved. we pointed out time and time again, we went through proper challenges. this was done. think about this. pelosi announced the inquiry before the complaint was ever presented. >> tucker: is there a singe voter out there out planning on voting in 2020 on the fence about trump? wait, he talked to some ukrainian guy, i am out. i am voting elizabeth warren. a single person like that in

america? >> not that i know of. they are helping the president in the next election. >> tucker: something the speaker of the house said today. >> i am prayerful and actually sad today that our country has to come to a place where the president doesn't understand that article 2 doesn't say he can do whatever he wants. >> tucker: a person of deep faith. from the church of partial birth abortion. what do you make of that? >> it's part of her charade. i think about that when she says a lot of things. she is giddy about this. she wanted this to happen. we called for this impeachment inquiry before we had a complaint. >> tucker: why discredit christianity along the way? >> i find her hypocritical. i am a catholic. she claims to be a cat lick.

i -- catholic and then you want to kill babies in the womb. >> tucker: yes. that's true. congressman, thank you very much. more coverage of the impeachment proceedings ahead but not too much. we don't want to over-inflate its importance which is questionable. this is stupid. a week from now you won't remember the details. we will tell you about big tech and how it is censoring coverage of the key news stories of the day. that's next. devices are like doorways

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>> tucker: the so-called whistleblower who started this whole ukraine story is reportedly profiting off his role even though we don't know his name. trace gallagher has all of the details. >> the office of government ethices warned government ememployeees they can't accept any gift because of their official position. the gift would not have been given had they not held the duties associated with the employee's federal position. as the anonymous complaint lays out the go fund me page set up for the whistleblower acknowledges who is benefiting from the donations. quoting here a u.s. intelligence

officer who filed a report of government misconduct needs your help and the help came flooding in. the man who started the go fund me page is not only a former state department official but a former whistleblower and founded a non-profit law firm. he calls the complaint bogus and says fund-raising will continue. aside from the money flowing in the complaint raises the possibility that some donations are from foreign sources. it says donations will only be accepted from u.s. citizens but because the majority of the whistleblower donors are not named it's difficult to figure out where they might be from. the whistleblower's attorney said they will cooperate with all government inquires into this matter. >> tucker: trace gallagher thank you for that.

>> ♪ >> tucker: so you think that we would have a free press in this country. we are guaranteed it in the bill of rights. it's not free anymore. big tech controls and they are doing everything to shape the narrative around impeachment. facebook and youtube which control a much larger percentage of diginal media are censoring any material about the whistleblower. this is the co-author of big tech tyrants. we moved to a stage where the tech monopolies that control all digital journalism are deciding what facts we're allowed to know. why should we not be terrified? >> we should be terrified.

i am terrified. over half of all news consumed by americans is consumed on the social media platforms. when they can censor facebook and google about the name of the whistleblower it's chilly. they have much dominant power. i know fox news is not saying the name of the whistleblower but it was accidentally said by somebody on your network and that was posted on youtube which was immediately censored by approximate google. what you have -- i am the publisher of the western journal. we have decided to publish the name of the whistleblower. we have four stories on the whistleblower. we have 43 million followers on facebook. i don't think 10 of them have seen those stories. >> tucker: there is a legitimate debate. no one at fox told me what to do

on that issue. i have not named the guy because i have not confirmed it. as soon as we do, we will. that's journalism. you may disagree. but the point is this guy is at the center of an important news story and the average person ought to be able to makeup his or her mind but we are not allowed to because of the tech monobly. -- why is congress not saving us on this? >> it's amazing to me that a lot of publications that published the pentagon papers and all of what wiki leaks released and they have been more than willing to publicize things that are the deepest secrets of the u.s. government. this one particular secret they are so good at keeping the name of this whistleblower out of the

media. there has been major changes in tech since donald trump was elected. those are around keeping donald trump's ideas and message from reaching people. >> tucker: i noticed that. >> when you look at twitter, twitter suppresses donald trump's one tweets. >> tucker: much greater interference on a scale that putin for all of his determination to hack our democracy never even approached or could have imagined. american companies are putting a thumb on the scale of democracy and nobody is saying anything about it. why? >> they should be. congress should be investigating them. these companies have all grown incredibly large. in my book i talk about the amount of data collected on individuals.

americans don't have any idea of the volume of information from medical records to what what they google to what they look at, every page of the internet they visit is recorded somewhere. >> tucker: of course. >> and yet people should be rebelling against that. it's a very dangerous situation. >> tucker: it is. >> when you see this kind of censorship, this is worse than what you would imagine from putin and the soviets. >> tucker: these people are not your friends. i think republicans control the senate. it's not just josh, want just the only u.s. senator. where are the rest of them. my lecturing put us over the edge. thanks for your book and thanks for coming on tonight. i appreciate it. i wish we had more time. the media went bonkers today with the first day of impeachment hearings.

we collected a sample because we could not control ourselves either. we will so you what they did when we come back.

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cable channels, it was like christmas, new year's and the super bowl. msnbc rousted all-stars for a panel. here's part television. >> ambassador bill taylor -- they will talk about the shadow foreign policy they discovered. >> this is not about donald trump versus his political rivals in congress. this is about donald trump extorting america. >> i am not a lawyer. maybe i am glad i am not. >> there will be a courtroom

drama like the o.j. trial. >> day one of the public impeachment hearings that could put this presidency in peril. >> tucker: [laughing]. what would they do? who would hire these people? [laughing]. with their dyed hair. [laughing]. this morning reached new heights. give them credit. the booking team at msnbc convinced kellyanne conway's husband to show up. here's what happened next. >> the mueller investigation was about russia. but because of trump being trump, he made it about himself. it was really stupid for him to do that. it didn't have to be about trump. because he is self-obsessed it became about trump because he tried to quash the investigation. if he just shut up and not tweeted witch hunts 100 time and played golf for 2 years, there

would not be a long mueller investigation. >> tucker: i appreciate the laid back approach to television. larry conner hosts radio shows and continues to come on this show. >> if he had not married well, he was perfect for television. they would have him on regardless of who his wife was. >> tucker: it makes me uncomfortable. >> i know. >> tucker: gone out of control and televised. what did you make of today? >> the build approximate -- cable news it was like the super bowl pre-game. if only we could have binged

three years. the media is part of this drama. they are woven into this from day 1. they determined that the president has to be impeached. the "washington post" ran an article on impeachment on inaugural day. >> tucker: i watch this and i thought poor brian williams and how diminished. i have been fired and i appreciate a guy who hangs in there. if you ask him ten years could you see yourself on msnbc with the freak show panel talking about fake impeachment? would you do that? no, i am a news man. >> and he had the aliteration going too. and we had george stephanopoulos lauding a witness -- saying it was like cronkite. this is the motive version of the book of impeachment.

>> tucker: we accuse the media of taking their cues from the masters in the democratic party. nancy pelosi said this is a religious exercise. she is praying about it. a woman of deep faith. >> oh, yeah. >> tucker: they don't have even heard that talking point. >> i think this is not necessarily the media taking a cue from the democrats. they are working hand and glove so the democrats are taking cues from the media. democrats were scrambling because they know their base is watching msnbc. >> tucker: shouldn't they be pretend to be prayerful? [laughing]. we forgot the prayerful part. it's the o.j. murder trial which was a good thing by the way. i loved that chris matthews is loving the o.j. murder trial and missing those days.

>> tucker: it does seem like yesterday. >> adam schiff as you said earlier was caught in lie after lie and the media still brings him on and never challenge him on the lies he told over the last three years and allow him to use their platforms. they are screaming about a free press. this is not a free press. these are political activists using television for their own purposes. >> tucker: they believe hate crimes are a real thing. they would not know a free press if they got in the shower with it. unlike other cable news networks, we have more than just impeachment. abc news is trying to destroy the footage of the person who

leaked the footage of amy. stay tuned.

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why are they more interested in investigating the whistleblower than the pedophile jeffrey epstein. what is the answer? >> well, it's so interesting. i talked to a couple of people at abc working inside this. who is the whistleblower? is it someone to likes harry potter or speaks latin? it seems like the person is still inside. inside people think that co-workers are trying to figure out and they will tell their manager what they found. it's very hunger games. it's back ward. they are trying to hunt down the whistleblower as opposed to figuring out why they sat on this story. what amy said in this tape. she had the story dead to rights. they said they were not able to source everything and make sure

it was locked down. james patterson in 2017 wrote a very detailed book with all accounts of people involved with him in florida. how big for abc to say, he was doing it in new york as well? it was already out there. they claim they could not vet it? >> tucker: why now? i know people at abc who are good people and smart. why are they spending their time searching the building for the whistleblower when nay could tell the rest of us what jeffrey epstein did to get so rich. we don't know. why? >> because they are embarrassed. -- they don't want their own empployeeouth what is going on in the building. you can understand, you can't take video outside of the building. it's work property -- that's not what this was. they are looking for the

internal source of their own embarrassment. they want to pretend like they were on top of this story when really for the reasons amy said they didn't want to do it. they didn't want to upset the royals. it doesn't make any sense. why sit on a story like this? it's explosive. it was already out there. he had been in jail. there was a huge book. it wasn't like it was a secret who this person was. she had a new explosive interview. they sat on probably for the reason she said. they want to know who is embarrassing them. that will only make them more embarrassed. >> tucker: everybody is paranoid. there is a reason that jeffrey epstein didn't kill himself. >> right. and the leaker went to veritasand not another network. cbs knew.

it's the same story. look at the producer. >> tucker: great to see you tonight. thanks for that. over in new york state, senator kevin parker introduced legislation to give the vote to convicted felons. inmates, people currently in prison, would be eligible to register and vote from behind bars. parker is notorious. in albany he was arrested after punching a traffic cop in the face and attacked a "new york post" photographer. he came on this show asking gun buyers to submit their social media accounts to state scrutiny. >> let's look at what people are putting out on social media as a set of criteria who determine who gets handguns. >> tucker: you are talking for

people to turn over their social media pass words so you can decide if they said things that were nauthy and then they don't get to own a gun. what other constitutional rights are dependent on your approval? >> the state police should review the social media requests. >> tucker: this is the guy who punched the cop. nicole service -- serves in the legislature for new york state. she joins us. nice to see you on the set. this idea which some of us dismiss out of hand let people vote from the prison cells? >> this makes sense for new york. this legislative session is about putting criminals before law abiding citizens. >> tucker: yes. >> if you look at the long list.

revamping bail reform. in january 2020, strangling someone, burglary, assaulting a child. selling drugs on school grounds. these are all going to be just -- no bail. walk right back on the street. >> tucker: what? >> that will happen come january. >> tucker: if i am charged with murder or strangling someone and there is no bail, why would i show up for court? >> well, go to my website and look at the long list of crimes that are eligible for no bail come january 2020. it's shocking. people would be concerned to know that 90% of the arrested population in new york would be released back on the street as they await trial and sign my petition to tell the governor to make changes before january 2020. to answer your question, now mayor de blasio is playing we

will incentivize people to come back to court with movies tickets and mets tickets. >> tucker: they are bribing criminals? >> it's very concerning. people need to get involved and write to the governor immediately. go to my website and look at the list. send a message to the governor. this is just one of the things they passed this year. >> tucker: governor cuomo not the guy on cnn but his brother. you come on and i ask you, it's a terrible idea to give prisons the vote. you think that's bad, there is worse? >> not only a lot worse but it makes sense they want the prisoners to vote because that's who they are putting first in the state of new york. the criminals.

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♪ >> tucker: well, the democrats running for president in 2020 or unified and they were supportive of impeachment. here is one example from today. >> not even the president of the united states. so i believe it is appropriate for this impeachment to go forward. i think it should have happened earlier but we are here now. let's do it. >> tucker: they are all for it but the question is it good politics? will they regret it later. dana perino with the daily briefing, one of the all-time favorite people and she joins us tonight. dana, simple question. do you think what seems like

good politics today will turn out to be unwise a year from now? >> right, so the democrats before they get the nomination and run against president trump, they have to compete against each other. i think amongst the democratic base if you pulled impeachment removal, it is a 90/10 issue, 90% support removal. the whiff you are not going to be for impeachment right now, you probably are not going to be able to win the democratic primary. now, will it hurt them later on? probably. there is a lot of things that work in incumbent favor. so many things today, and amazing statistics as the market closed today with records with each of the different markets. i mean, that is actually your biggest obstacle to winning reelection in a very close election for an incumbent president. most americans give a president a second term. however, in this case, remember back when we had the russian investigation going on with the

mueller investigation come even then those candidates were not talking about it on the trail. so i think they will try to watch each other. they don't want anyone to get an advantage but a couple of people have an advantage. that would become i think biden and pete buttigieg, bloomberg and deval patrick if they decide to get in. they are actually senators. if these senators actually have to go and sit at an impeachment trial, that is about six days a week, six hours a day, you are not allowed to talk, write, there is a rule. they expect you to keep your mouth shut which means you can't go to iowa or new hampshire and you were in washington. the other candidates would say i'm not from washington. look at these ridiculous people in d.c. >> sean: that is really smart. that had not occurred to me until you just said it appeared that it is a massive disadvantage. we are moving into some theoretical far-off place like iowa is about to happen basically. >> it is not that you can't say anything as a trial, but frowned upon if you talk about it at all because you are a potential

juror and jurors are not supposed to talk about a case. so it's not like elizabeth horn can sit there for six hours, be in a trial, leave in a quick trip up to new hampshire and talk about impeachment. that wouldn't be allowed. and i think if the senator decided to do that, it increases the likelihood republicans are able to get the vote to equip the president if it even goes that part. >> tucker: with the 12 seconds we have left does it have to absolutely go to the senate, do you think? >> i think mcconnell it would be impossible not to take it up if the house does come impeachment. not that he would want to. >> tucker: it might in the end help republicans just as clinton's impeachment. >> watch how much money people will raise on impeachment the next seven days. >> tucker: that is a good point, dana perino, great to see you tonight. super interesting. see you tomorrow.

we will be back at 8:00 p.m., >> the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and group think. good night from washington, the city in the grip of insanity. sean hannity take it from here. >> sean: the grip of insanity in new york not much better than your swamp. does everybody know tucker put on a show, what was it called again, it is on youtube. >> tucker: "days of our lives." i was on that sitcom for a decade before i got into cable news. they went all out there and i can't wait to see. welcome to >> hannity: . a great day for the united states for the contrary, the president, lousy day for the corrupt do nothing for three years radical extreme socialist democrats and they were top allies. known as the media mob. now if you thought robert mueller's pathetic testimony come infusion -- fusion gps, what we saw today